The PROBLEM with Black DC Heroes

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13 күн бұрын

Black DC characters have a lot of interesting lore behind them, with many adaptations existing in the CW Arrowverse, including Black Lightning, Static Shock, and Icon & Rocket appearing in Young Justice. The Flash and Arrow had interactions with characters like Mr. Terrific, Vixen, and Firestorm. John Stewart Green Lantern and Static were prominent characters in the DCAU, crossing over with Justice League Unlimited. Many Black DC characters aren't as well known due to a lack of exposure to the general public. Static, for example, was once a member of the Teen Titans in the comics. Milestone Media/Comics had a revival in 2020, with an animated movie announced, though there have been no updates since. WB/DC have an obsession with using their popular characters to conjure up ideas of Black superheroes like Calvin Ellis as Superman or Jace Fox as Batman. James Gunn's DCU has the opportunity to explore more Black characters with Lanterns and Superman.
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@studio96films65
@studio96films65 11 күн бұрын
It’s kinda frustrating when characters are race swapped when there are other notable characters who are people of color and are compelling.
@NovaDark909
@NovaDark909 11 күн бұрын
They don’t wanna take the risk nor hard work required to make a compelling fleshed out character sadly.
@Anthonycheesman33
@Anthonycheesman33 11 күн бұрын
same people who say they don’t know a train was race swapped lol.
@Riqo2Suave
@Riqo2Suave 11 күн бұрын
@@NovaDark909almost as if it was always pandering in the first place and these writers couldn’t care less about the characters their adapting
@yxrackman2397
@yxrackman2397 11 күн бұрын
@@Anthonycheesman33or the deep either yet they’re both way superior to their comic counterparts because of how the show expands on them
@hoodiek6802
@hoodiek6802 11 күн бұрын
The deep was also race swapped no anger their ​@@Anthonycheesman33
@Ignoreduser
@Ignoreduser 11 күн бұрын
They gave “Black Adam” and “Blue Beetle” a movie before Static in the height of “Mile Morales’” popularity. Heck they canceled “Batman Beyond” the animated movie during the that time as well.
@twincesseszeigler4366
@twincesseszeigler4366 11 күн бұрын
And the blue beetle movie wasn't even good.
@Rage_Templar
@Rage_Templar 11 күн бұрын
Hey hey hey! Hate on Adam but Blue Beetle been more relevant in the DC mythos than static ever was around 2010s.
@Ignoreduser
@Ignoreduser 11 күн бұрын
@@Rage_Templar I didn’t even hate “Black Adam,” it’ll probably be the only time we’ll get “Hawkman” or “Doctor Fate” in a blockbuster movie (also they were pretty good too).
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 11 күн бұрын
I get it with Blue Beetle as he’s another underrated character that’s barely used really but yeah no Black Adam is just ridicules. Or maybe it’s ridicules to me that his rival was Suoerman and Dr. Fate instead of fucking SHAZAM.
@TheNiggler17
@TheNiggler17 11 күн бұрын
Technically Black Adam is black
@jondrake1977
@jondrake1977 11 күн бұрын
Dwayne McDuffie died way too soon. He is a legend to me for his creation of Static and all these other amazing characters.
@COMALiteJ
@COMALiteJ 7 күн бұрын
Could you imagine the CWverse if McDuffie had been a showrunner?
@rangerwill
@rangerwill 7 күн бұрын
Did he die???
@RedKingdom28
@RedKingdom28 6 күн бұрын
@@COMALiteJ 🔥
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 6 күн бұрын
PREACH!!!
@COMALiteJ
@COMALiteJ 6 күн бұрын
@@RedKingdom28 Are you someone I know? Another name came up in my notifications.
@edwardstewart6372
@edwardstewart6372 7 күн бұрын
I'll prefer original black characters over race swapped characters any day.
@jayt9608
@jayt9608 7 күн бұрын
That was how we got Amanda Waller in the early 90s. Fans demanded black ladies be represented, and she graced us from S.T.A.R. Labs and Cadmus. Fans loved her, and her support netted her a position in the animated show.
@deetee4403
@deetee4403 7 күн бұрын
@edwardstewart6372....please highlight the race swapped characters who have not been good?
@kertagin1
@kertagin1 7 күн бұрын
@@deetee4403 all of such has ben an inferior knock off
@deetee4403
@deetee4403 7 күн бұрын
@@kertagin1 like which ones?
@kertagin1
@kertagin1 7 күн бұрын
@@deetee4403 miles morales is a fine example. over all not a bad character but compared to peter he is inferior because he is a poorly wall papered copy
@shirothr5384
@shirothr5384 11 күн бұрын
The funny thing is that killer bee HAS LIGHTNING POWERS.
@LuFrecc84
@LuFrecc84 9 күн бұрын
I stg 😂
@THEONE-dj2fr
@THEONE-dj2fr 9 күн бұрын
And also the Raikage
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 9 күн бұрын
And Miles Morales too, which a lot of people don't know.
@sarahthomas8670
@sarahthomas8670 9 күн бұрын
@@MarvinPowell1I didn’t know that tbh
@ADM.II.
@ADM.II. 8 күн бұрын
Yes killer B possesses lightning,water and fire chakra natures.
@tyresselittle747
@tyresselittle747 11 күн бұрын
Another black comic character they forgot to mention that doesn't have lightning powers. Spawn but he is an image character, not dc or marvel.
@FK74396
@FK74396 11 күн бұрын
Thank God someone remembered him. One of the first comics my uncle ever gave me.
@nickmiller9910
@nickmiller9910 11 күн бұрын
Still a comic so he counts
@daveleevicks8749
@daveleevicks8749 11 күн бұрын
One dude mentioned Killer Bee, so the net was cast kind of wide
@2kx62
@2kx62 11 күн бұрын
Spawn not even black, he *was* black. And idk if he’s really a superhero.
@UniCops
@UniCops 10 күн бұрын
@@daveleevicks8749tru, but he got lightning powers… damn
@yiklongtay6029
@yiklongtay6029 11 күн бұрын
Black Lightning is uniquely positioned for a lot of meaningful stories. Being a respected black man that can touch many young teen lives as a principle would be like a playground for a lot of wholesome arcs
@nerdgamer2749
@nerdgamer2749 7 күн бұрын
Umm... I'm sure you meant to say "teach" lmao
@deacondawg1416
@deacondawg1416 6 күн бұрын
Black lightning, GL John Stewart, Vixen, Cyborg, and Static should be the leading lights of DC black heroes. Followed by Icon and Rocket.
@saierwe
@saierwe 6 күн бұрын
YEAH WHATEVER BUT HIS POWERS ARE BORING, they're overused in tons of characters already, it's like the cliché power for a super heroe, no one cares!!
@deacondawg1416
@deacondawg1416 6 күн бұрын
@saierwe Yeah. That's why I like and respect this character, but he's always written in boring way. When I saw Static even with the same power set, he was always written better. The use of manhole covers and discs to fly with was so cool.
@eriksnation231
@eriksnation231 5 күн бұрын
@@saierwe in some ways they can be boring, but I just feel like it just depends upon the right writer to make sure that Jefferson can use his powers more creatively like for instance maybe use the electrical synapsis within the mind of others to be able to read minds or even to use his powers to electrify the cells of a person’s body to heal them or even manipulate the electrical pads within the brain to make people feel pain stuff like that I feel like they can make Jefferson’s powers more interesting or to get actual black lightning instead of being his name sake and give it some sort of I don’t know mystical means behind it or something.
@bodydoublesecurity4987
@bodydoublesecurity4987 8 күн бұрын
Crazy part is Mr Terrific is the equivalent of Reed Richards, maybe even better, but he's nowhere near as important. Damn shame it is.
@tnbn55
@tnbn55 6 сағат бұрын
Nah. Terrific almost approaches Tony Stark intelligence. Reed is a few levels above Tony Stark.
@fun-with-purpose1436
@fun-with-purpose1436 3 сағат бұрын
Who cares who is better? Every black hero is a “genius” Terrific is a newer character and a rehash of an old unpopular white character. He was in one comic. Justice society and it was read by older aged fans. Most black heroes are unoriginal or rehashed race swapped versions. Most have lightning powers or mechanical like cyborg n steel and iron heart (who’s also a genius) when everyone is a genius that cheapens the effect. The old guard of hero’s have decades of history. It would be nice for black creators to maybe look into ancient history and myth of black peoples, then make something based on that. Instead of doing black versions of unpopular white characters. Black panther is the most original and has decades or history to draw from.
@monobro141
@monobro141 11 күн бұрын
My dude Cyborg STILL needs that movie
@Azaro_64
@Azaro_64 11 күн бұрын
make him blue tho, it may be Teen Titans bias but blue tech suits him way better that red, his animated Teen Titans design is still the best one
@yiklongtay6029
@yiklongtay6029 11 күн бұрын
I do think Cyborg isn't strong enough of a character to operate outside an ensemble cast. He doesn't have a good rogues gallery either. Though Gridlock was pretty cool.
@deondrex18k
@deondrex18k 11 күн бұрын
​@yiklongtay6029 then build good story for him then
@jinxie712
@jinxie712 11 күн бұрын
@@deondrex18khis movie would look like Blue Beetle without the family.
@setheasy
@setheasy 11 күн бұрын
We don’t need Cyborg we need Icon!
@keno4770
@keno4770 11 күн бұрын
I think the loss of creators like Dwayne McDuffie has hurt not just the pushing of Black Characters in DC proper, but especially in animation where he would make sure to have some of the best written stories like Justice League Unlimited, Static Shock, even Young Justice, prominently feature black characters as major players or protagonists in the story.
@keno4770
@keno4770 11 күн бұрын
@@NHTube1 how much time it take you to reply to every comment under this vid
@Achieme
@Achieme 11 күн бұрын
I somewhat agree but at the same time DC has been pumping out multiple animations that revolve around Batman, superman or the Justice league. It makes no sense why Harley quinn can get a decent show (until season 4) but they won't give us another animated Black superhero. I'm still surprised that Wonder woman still didn't get her own show. You can say it's because of SS but still WTF
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 11 күн бұрын
@@NHTube1 Why you gotta act like a bot and spam bro.
@marveler8994
@marveler8994 11 күн бұрын
Huge marvel fan here, don't listen to this guy lol they both got good shit obviously
@theanimekid7839
@theanimekid7839 11 күн бұрын
He was a great writer, I miss his tyle of storytelling. Thankfully Man of Action still uses elements of his work going forward.
@silvertongue-242_99
@silvertongue-242_99 11 күн бұрын
Vixen is so cool to me with her animal based powers and design. Needs more spotlight and love to learn of her villain cast. I think I only know queen bee
@nosdregamon
@nosdregamon 5 күн бұрын
Seeing Mr.Terrific in Arrowverse felt more like a crossover with The IT-Crowd, than the original character. Such a shame.
@unrestrainedclown2808
@unrestrainedclown2808 11 күн бұрын
Black Lightning is majorly underutilized, he’s one of my favorite DC heroes and I wish him as well as the Outsiders in general got more attention.
@TheChadTI
@TheChadTI 11 күн бұрын
Yes! Always liked the character, especially in the Outsiders.
@bashengatheblackmanta7003
@bashengatheblackmanta7003 11 күн бұрын
​@@NHTube1I agree,they're also more creative with their black hero by giving other powers and not just electricity
@thedukeofnothing6421
@thedukeofnothing6421 11 күн бұрын
Wild Roiv Spotting
@uchihabomber1296
@uchihabomber1296 11 күн бұрын
@@NHTube1your definitely right to be honest seems like DC really does need some better black superhero’s somehow
@unrestrainedclown2808
@unrestrainedclown2808 11 күн бұрын
@@thedukeofnothing6421 :)
@blubastud
@blubastud 11 күн бұрын
DC don't want to pay the Milestone creators their cut...that's the secret...that's all their is.
@Oyi_14
@Oyi_14 11 күн бұрын
They don't need to pay them to use their characters but go off. Edit: looked it up I was wrong, they don't have the right to use the characters without milestones permission.
@blubastud
@blubastud 10 күн бұрын
@@Oyi_14 They had issues with the ownership rights with the milestone characters look it up.
@khametrick3888
@khametrick3888 9 күн бұрын
​@@Oyi_14 last I seen dc owns the trademark not the copyright. They can't use static without permission/paying.
@Hello-bi1pm
@Hello-bi1pm 8 күн бұрын
When will US change its copyright laws. This is a reason we get so many butchered adaptations.
@sasukedragon93
@sasukedragon93 7 күн бұрын
@@Hello-bi1pmI disagree. I think the reason we get so many bad adaptations is because certain producers/studios are too greedy and won’t invest in “expensive” creators/writers to get a bigger payout later. In this case, they don’t want to pay the Milestone writers, which is crazy because a Static Shock movie with good marketing could ABSOLUTELY do Black Panther numbers.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 11 күн бұрын
Bro Without Dwayne McDuffie a lot of the milestone characters are just left to rot sadly.
@BaithNa
@BaithNa 11 күн бұрын
DC animation has also taken a big decline since Dwayne McDuffie passed away
@laughslapproductions4690
@laughslapproductions4690 11 күн бұрын
*Static is criminally underutilized. Loved that show*
@FriendlyBatDoom
@FriendlyBatDoom 11 күн бұрын
Either their entire character is about their race or they're side character's to the white ones.
@tracark2255
@tracark2255 11 күн бұрын
nope not at all
@l8studios_
@l8studios_ 11 күн бұрын
Guide: How To Be Wrong
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
Exactly Marvel has 200x better black characters than DC
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 11 күн бұрын
And sometimes they’re actually a fleshed out character who takes on their own little arcs and episodes….except that was the DCAU, Black Lightning, and Young Justice. Neither of them are ongoing.
@artist0154
@artist0154 11 күн бұрын
@@NHTube1 like Luke Cage, Blade, Black panther, Bishop, Falcon/Captain America, Storm, Heimdall, War machine, Miles, Fury
@superlol178
@superlol178 11 күн бұрын
Icon movie >>>> Black Superman movie
@cactusblack5993
@cactusblack5993 11 күн бұрын
Technically he is black Superman
@acrsclspdrcls1365
@acrsclspdrcls1365 11 күн бұрын
Nah, Icon ain't black Supes.
@cactusblack5993
@cactusblack5993 11 күн бұрын
​@@acrsclspdrcls1365 I hope you're joking cause the creators will even tell you that he is black Superman
@_Dee2nd
@_Dee2nd 11 күн бұрын
@@cactusblack5993Actually they wouldn’t. Founder Denys Cowan is quoted saying “I hate the Black version of almost anything” If Icon was Black Superman he’d be Val Zod.
@jason15212
@jason15212 11 күн бұрын
Facts💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
@C4theboss
@C4theboss 11 күн бұрын
I paused to name five in my head lol 1.Luke Cage 2.Bishop 3.Falcon 4.Spike 5.Black Panther,War Machine?
@lavon65beamon
@lavon65beamon 5 күн бұрын
Bishop can have lighting power's and he's not in DC
@tonysmith9905
@tonysmith9905 4 күн бұрын
@@lavon65beamon Bro the question was black characters in comics/fiction. And Bishop's powers are that he absorbs energy and can then use it in many ways. It's not lightning based, but he could obviously absorb electricity.
@michael2134c
@michael2134c 9 сағат бұрын
Those are pretty good ones
@SourRobo8364
@SourRobo8364 11 күн бұрын
Static Shock is the GOAT. Growing up with him and reruns of Spider-Man were awesome.
@thatcyanblur
@thatcyanblur 11 күн бұрын
They showing Steel his respect in the new Superman show tho fr
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 11 күн бұрын
The man got a big ass mech suit too
@johnfkennedyinanopentopcar8976
@johnfkennedyinanopentopcar8976 11 күн бұрын
THE SUIT LOOKS ASS THOUGHT GIVE HIM THE CAPE AND DON'T DRESS HIM LIKE REINHARDT
@Toatekaha
@Toatekaha 11 күн бұрын
​@@NHTube1no they don't, they do a better job at Marketing their Black Superheros.
@Achieme
@Achieme 11 күн бұрын
I thought you was gonna bring up the shaq steel from the 90s NGL
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
@@Toatekaha yes they do. Black Panther and Storm alone are better than every DC black superhero. That’s without even mentioning Miles Morales, Luke Cage, Blade, Bishop, Falcon, and War Machine.
@Vilgax00
@Vilgax00 11 күн бұрын
They are to lazy to do anything interesting with them. This is why they changing race of populer characters instead. İts easier.
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
Marvel has FAR better black superheroes than Dc
@The_Unbound
@The_Unbound 11 күн бұрын
Your 100% right! Which it really sucks they do this imo tho
@tracark2255
@tracark2255 11 күн бұрын
people are still gonna complain either way lol. theres no helping THOSE people
@Achieme
@Achieme 11 күн бұрын
That's one of the reasons why I dislike race swapping in general they can use already established black characters or create new ones like what they're doing now like with far sector green lantern but they either leave them on the shelf to collect dust or dread tje thought of creating a new character and not feeling confident that people would be interested
@celestialsoldier622
@celestialsoldier622 11 күн бұрын
@@tracark2255 No one complained about Black Panther or Storm.
@MrDman21
@MrDman21 11 күн бұрын
To be fair Static was one of the few Milestone characters that was kid-friendly. It's not like they could have made an animated TV show about Blood Syndicate. Maybe now but definitely not back then.
@fittzie
@fittzie 8 күн бұрын
To be fair, Static wasn't always a DC character
@letsgoooo9200
@letsgoooo9200 8 күн бұрын
True
@Remix-pr4xd
@Remix-pr4xd 11 күн бұрын
I’m still confused as to why DC never gave Static the push that Marvel gave Miles.
@jason15212
@jason15212 11 күн бұрын
Dwayne Mcduffie passed away
@abiodunsulaiman2297
@abiodunsulaiman2297 11 күн бұрын
Dwayne McDuffie passed away and miles had the benefit of being attached to the spider-man brand
@thewanderingronin1924
@thewanderingronin1924 11 күн бұрын
Static Shock show was cancelled due to low sales on the merchandise and the show was having less viewers
@bloody4558
@bloody4558 11 күн бұрын
Because Static is not a Batman sidekick. I love DC, I still find them to be infinitely better than Marvel when it comes to their approach to superhero themes. However, they always had an extremely terrible issue of never giving any character a chance so lo g a they aren't related to the trinity. Heck even Freely Lantern and Flash whom I consider to be on the same level of quality as Batman and Superman get sidelined hard. That's how much favoritism do they show for the Trinity. And that's been their crutch, the only reason why the majority favors Marvel is precisely because Marvel doesn't have this much bias towards their characters.
@timepilotcluefinder94
@timepilotcluefinder94 11 күн бұрын
​@@bloody4558 it's more like DC doesn't want Sun, Moon and Stars even in regards to the Big 3. They like the sunny Superman, love the mysterious moon with Batman Wonder Stars howerver? Maybe once or twice...and with Green Lantern being the rocket and Flash effectively mission control...yeah...this ain't it chief.
@Infamous1892
@Infamous1892 11 күн бұрын
The problem is they don't have any Prominent Black male writers. So we have White males and female writers who have to assume what a black males life is like. How do they do that? They watch BET.
@BlueBlazeKing
@BlueBlazeKing 11 күн бұрын
True Dwayne’s passing was a big loss for black lead stories
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 11 күн бұрын
@Infamous1892 No. That's stupid. By your same logic, Superman should be a bad character cause we don't have any human-looking aliens writing for him. Batman should be bad cause no billionaire has ever written him. Bad writers are bad writers, regardless of skin color or appearance.
@OogaBooga24723
@OogaBooga24723 11 күн бұрын
⁠@@MarvinPowell1ehhhh, I see what you mean, but I would prefer if a black writer wrote a black character and a Hispanic writer wrote a Hispanic character, it makes it more likely for the writer to properly represent the experience of that people, especially when that character is tied to their culture/heritage.
@BigBadWolfieWolfs
@BigBadWolfieWolfs 11 күн бұрын
​@@MarvinPowell1 True, that is stupid. He should have thought on that a bit more. Obviously a white writer can write a good black character. Characters, whether they're black or hispanic or whatever, shouldn't have their skin color or race be their whole identity/personality.
@internetjerk2839
@internetjerk2839 11 күн бұрын
Which means the fault is BET's for portraying black people as stereotypes
@staticboyj.r.
@staticboyj.r. 10 күн бұрын
The static shock situation is kinda of a legal thing he is and isn’t in the DC comic but he’s kinda like miles morales where he’s is his own separate universe
@PassanCat
@PassanCat 5 күн бұрын
Man I fully forgot Terrific. He was in charge of the Justice League operations in JLU. Sadly he never got any full episodes. He was, however, really awesome every time he was in screen.
@Oddash-lz6kw
@Oddash-lz6kw 11 күн бұрын
And even some of these adaptations where Black characters do show up, get it wrong. Apparently Black Lightning's creator Tony Isabella urged people to not read 2018 Batman and the Outsiders, claiming that it turned Black Lightning into a sidekick to Batman :/ Although to be fair, DC likes to turn EVERYONE into Batman's sidekick
@bloody4558
@bloody4558 11 күн бұрын
Pretty much, Black Lightning was written to be a role model for the African American community. And yes you're very correct in saying that everyone is a sidekick for Batman. DC needs to learn to stop wanking Batman and give other characters a chance
@patrickmiano7901
@patrickmiano7901 11 күн бұрын
They even make Superman his sidekick, a superhero who could kick his butt in two seconds flat.
@serena3673
@serena3673 11 күн бұрын
That company has a weird obsession with Batman and his family. But then again that’s their cash cow
@Oddash-lz6kw
@Oddash-lz6kw 10 күн бұрын
And he has so many sidekicks already! The Batman writers don't know what to do with them, half of them end up just standing around (or getting amnesia or dying). Why keep giving Batman more? He doesn't need Black Lightning or Superman or Blue Beetle as sidekicks. DC, let them be free so that they can all be their own characters🦋
@PureMaddnessOne
@PureMaddnessOne 8 күн бұрын
@@serena3673 The name of company aka DC stands for Detective Comics. Batman is part of their name.
@joeker5208
@joeker5208 11 күн бұрын
1:36 Killer Bee is literally a lightning user. It’s one of his main fucking things😂
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 11 күн бұрын
Who's the Bee themed character from Titan's East?
@joeker5208
@joeker5208 11 күн бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp that’s Bumblebee. But her stingers count for “electric-based” characters. Still a cool character though
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 11 күн бұрын
@@joeker5208 oh that's right
@timepilotcluefinder94
@timepilotcluefinder94 11 күн бұрын
​@@joeker5208 but her powers aside from flight are not natural. She's primarily tech based. Bumblebee is the ex-partner of the Atom. She left after a few months to join the Titans as her own heroine because Ray's a self-admittant jerk who can't see any other viewpoints.
@joeker5208
@joeker5208 11 күн бұрын
@@timepilotcluefinder94 cool n’ all, but doesn’t change the fact that her stingers would go under the “electric” category
@davidsietsema5577
@davidsietsema5577 9 күн бұрын
Iris West is traditionally a ginger
@GroovyFlacko
@GroovyFlacko 5 күн бұрын
kills me that more people don’t mention Mr.Terrific. fam is dope as hell
@geeksofthegalaxy
@geeksofthegalaxy 11 күн бұрын
They're too busy making other characters black to actually use their good black characters. Trust me I would've loved Static or Steel or John Stewart movie. Keith David would've rocked it as Stewart. Then they wasted him in Arrow as John "Stewart"'s step dad.
@COMALiteJ
@COMALiteJ 7 күн бұрын
Keith David will always be Goliath the Gargoyle to me.
@kobaye2111
@kobaye2111 7 күн бұрын
Steel will be in the next Superman movie and if my memory is correct there will be a movie with Hal and John
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE 3 күн бұрын
John stewart is the original "making other characters black". Static and steel are legit tho, cyborg is great as well.
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 11 күн бұрын
The DC Black Superhero Trinity; John Stewart Green Lantern Static Shock Cyborg
@QNPMEDIA
@QNPMEDIA 11 күн бұрын
​@@NHTube1it don't but go off
@QNPMEDIA
@QNPMEDIA 11 күн бұрын
VIXEN SLANDER 😂
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
@@QNPMEDIAyes they do. Black Panther and Storm are better than every black dc hero combined. Marvel also has Black Panther who is the most iconic black superhero and the face of black superheroes.
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 11 күн бұрын
@@QNPMEDIA She’s more an honorable mention
@hectorilliam7298
@hectorilliam7298 11 күн бұрын
@@NHTube1 why are you begging for attention in the comments? 😂
@CamReeds
@CamReeds 10 күн бұрын
The disrespect milestone gets is insane. When the return was announced, ppl were hyped but immediately abandoned the comics because static comic mentioned blm They dog piled it, and then they killed the line, and like no body on comic book, youtube would cover it. It felt like a set up
@CuppaLLX
@CuppaLLX 6 күн бұрын
oh wow a black characters mentions black lives matter, clearly their woke. Such idocy, like dude
@sbollettieri9793
@sbollettieri9793 3 күн бұрын
Fun fact, I was actually part of Milestone's Initative for new creators. I was asked to write a prompt for Rocket and Icon that asked me to show their conflicting views, and maybe it was me, but it felt very "OK Boomer." People know I'm not very political, and for me I grew up on the old DC cartoons, with Static Shock being among my all-time favorites. So, I had my work cut out for me. I labored for weeks writing a script, working with a friend. One draft after another, I kept putting out garbage, because I realized I was writing what my pretentious colleagues at DC were putting out. My friend suggested I return to the Saturday morning cartoons, the characters I loved. He told me not to be afraid to inject optimism, fun, and of course characters I knew. While I couldn't swap out Rocket and Icon, they didn't say what villains were off the table. Draft after draft, I actually wrote something entertaining. It featured an obscure Static Shock villain who didn't get much love or exploration and instead of the typical soapboxing about politics, I returned to more broad and uniting themes. By my own admission, it was a bit campy, but it was the loveletter to the DCAU many people wanted. My biggest feedback from the people I workshopped it with was how I nailed the villains. Especially the one I utilized from Static Shock, they loved his motives, his personality, and just how he came off as that person you love to hate. Ultimately, they passed, refusing to give me feedback, which I admit is understandable with how many people there were. However, became disillusioned with comics, having already experienced some of the worst of the industry working with some of aforementioned colleagues who went on to write for DC and Marvel. So, I moved on and found a new outlet as a journalist/writer. Briefly I entertained a notion of returning to comics, with a co-creator of a certain cult classic of the late 90's/early 2000's ready to hand over the keys to their kingdom so I could write the first official continuation since the show ended. However, turns out the rights were in possession of someone else, and unfortunately, they had no plans to do anything with them.
@TheUnknownGruntProductions
@TheUnknownGruntProductions 11 күн бұрын
I agree, never thought your content was too negative. You just want DC to be better. And boy, does it need to be better.
@karimdavis7065
@karimdavis7065 11 күн бұрын
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters . Green Lantern John Stewart . Static Shock . Icon . Cyborg . Black Lightning . Rocket . Bronze Tiger . Steel . Nubia . Natasha Irons . Black Manta . Aqualad . Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson) . Kid Flash (Wallace West) etc
@Blue-Jaye
@Blue-Jaye 11 күн бұрын
@@karimdavis7065 ​​⁠​⁠no one is arguing that tho. We know that dc has great black characters. We are just upset that dc doesn’t do anything with them most of the time. There isn’t really a push for them as much as we like.
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
@@karimdavis7065 What the fuck do you mean The only popular black hero marvel had is Miles, they have a ton, Black Panther, Storm, and Blade are all really popular. DC does absolutely not have better black heroes. Black Panther and Storm alone are better than every black dc hero combined. That’s without mentioning Blade,Bishop, Luke Cage, Falcon and War Machine. Also how is Miles Morales in anyway a ripoff of static? The only similar thing about them is the electric powers. Miles has invisibility, and spider powers that make him unique. Marvel has Black Panther who is the face of black superheroes. Also characters like Vixen and Firestorm and Bronze Tiger and Nubia are not popular at all. Stop spreading misinformation
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
@@karimdavis7065Atleast Marvel didn’t create the Black Bomber character. DC is racist for that character alone
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
@@karimdavis7065you are a complete and utter midC fanboy that can’t except Marvel’s black heroes are a million times better than DC’s
@lifeisberserk9566
@lifeisberserk9566 11 күн бұрын
Black lightning and Static Shock are some of the best superhero shows ever
@MasterIceyy
@MasterIceyy 11 күн бұрын
I think nothing encapsulates DC's mishandling of black heroes more than John Digle on Arrow. They kept teasing for the entire Arrowverse's life time that he was going to be a Green Lantern but they just never committed to it
@blakestephens8211
@blakestephens8211 6 күн бұрын
As a kid and teen I always thought the Green Lantern was originally black. Never felt like a agenda was being pushed at least for me.
@delevingne8691
@delevingne8691 11 күн бұрын
Nah bro Tobias Whale was funny ass hell in the show 😭
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 11 күн бұрын
Agreed lmfao. I never realized it when I watched the show but now lmfao shits hilarious lol.
@mateushenriquepinheiro3197
@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 11 күн бұрын
Icon and Static deserve more attention from DC, like static shock had a popular Cartoon that made him popular. Look at Miles Morales, he has basically become The spider man for this new generation due to how many things his in but also by how great his movies, game and comics are. (Edit: Why does everytime I mention Miles as a good example in a comment, it devolves into people that hate Miles trying to justify their opinion that he is a terrible character?)
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 11 күн бұрын
I am getting a little tired of them using Spiderman content across different forms of media to set up Miles. I hear they're planning on doing it with the live action movies as sell. I kind of wish they would do something different like may set up Mayday Parker as Spidergirl. And i can agree on Static Shock. I'd love to see a movie based on the animated series
@karimdavis7065
@karimdavis7065 11 күн бұрын
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters . Green Lantern John Stewart . Static Shock . Icon . Cyborg . Black Lightning . Rocket . Bronze Tiger . Steel . Nubia . Natasha Irons . Black Manta . Aqualad . Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson) . Kid Flash (Wallace West) etc
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 11 күн бұрын
Peter Parker is Marvel's standard bearer. Miles Morales will never be as big as Peter Parker. As for his movies, Miles only has an animated feature to his credit. Peter Parker's games and comics were always far better.
@mateushenriquepinheiro3197
@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 11 күн бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp The problem with Mayday/Spider-Girl is that they need a happily married Peter Parker for that, and marvel will never do that in the mainline comics if Paul is any indicator of that(plus we saw what they did to Ben Reilly, they just don't want anyone aside from Peter to have the title, Miles is popular enough to out shine Peter in some regards. Otherwise he would suffer a similar fate)
@Achieme
@Achieme 11 күн бұрын
I agree but Why would they when they can oversaturate characters like Batman, Superman, Harley Quinn etc even when they have Cyborg he feels like a background character or plot device. DC just doesn't feel confident in other characters Hell WW can barley keep up with Bats and Sups
@deetee4403
@deetee4403 7 күн бұрын
All you have to know about DC is...that they had static shock cartoon which was a massive hit with the young generation in the 90s and they didnt even produce any merchandise or kept his comic going. Miles morales is literally what static shock was supposed to have been.
@jason15212
@jason15212 11 күн бұрын
The character of Icon if done right on the big screen is exactly what black folk of all generations would fall in love with imo. That character has the most potential out of all Black DC or comic book characters in general to be something more than what they are. From the way he’s written, well spoken, impact on younger black comic characters like rocket, static, hardware etc..helped free slaves in the Underground Railroads and eventually but force , his design all of the above and then some. JAMES GUNN USE ICON PLEASE!! Milestone Characters have a lot of depth to them and great storylines that tie into the DC merger.
@antwonsmith8931
@antwonsmith8931 11 күн бұрын
If I was writing these Black Characters I give them new stories and new villains to battle.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 11 күн бұрын
They definitely need that. Static is in a good place because of his show. If other characters got a similar treatment, then it could work.
@artist0154
@artist0154 11 күн бұрын
in general most of the DC heroes need better rogues, Batman and Superman had a lot, maybe Flash and Teen titans too but Green lantern? Black lightning? Martian manhunter? arrow? Almost nothing
@mr.goblin6039
@mr.goblin6039 11 күн бұрын
They did exactly that with Cyborg during Rebirth, but fucking no one was reading that book. It was dope, cause they got into Cyborg dealing with robotic and cybernetic villains on his own. Like, they made Kilgore his arch nemesis for a while and it was awesome. People just didn’t read it. It was a damn fun book, too.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 11 күн бұрын
Most DC heroes thought of as “lacking villains” have plenty but the company underuses them severely
@Radiolonestar
@Radiolonestar 10 күн бұрын
Yeah in typical fashion Batman seems to be the only one writers seem to be interested in giving a great line up of Villians
@geofft.1959
@geofft.1959 11 күн бұрын
Bro I was hoping the Black Lightning show would have him mentoring Static Shock.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 11 күн бұрын
That would've been cool
@shadowdramon01
@shadowdramon01 10 күн бұрын
10:24: I too never cared for the decision to have Cyborg on the Justice League, especially as J’onn J’onnz replacement in the big 7. Just make Martian Manhunter’s human form, John Jones, black. He was obscure and only became known in pop culture in the 2000s. There wouldn’t be any real pushback against that. In fact, almost every piece of DC extended media already does that. Just put that in the comics.
@mr.longjohn0014
@mr.longjohn0014 11 күн бұрын
that Imdonatai clip caught me off guard, has bro never seen the show😭
@streetside2833
@streetside2833 11 күн бұрын
He was probably 9 years old when that shit came out
@mythos6308
@mythos6308 11 күн бұрын
The misuse and mistreatment of both Ray Fisher and John Boyega characters in their respective cinematic universes needs to be studied
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 11 күн бұрын
One done by an asshole director and the other because a crooked company that wanted the franchise more appealing to overseas.
@Percival983
@Percival983 11 күн бұрын
I'm telling u.especially John boyega.
@laisphinto6372
@laisphinto6372 11 күн бұрын
I am Gonna BE honest John boyegas Character Finn was Ass since the beginning. The only interesting Part about Finn was the First give minutes with him ,the Moment He escaped with Poe Finn was an annoying Character that only Had very few good Moments Like him Standing Up against Emo Vader but thats it and that was all in TFA. I cannot pretend Finn was an interesting Character ruined by Roman Johnson since Finn was a complete pathetic Joke since TFA
@unfurleddread7023
@unfurleddread7023 10 күн бұрын
China is the reason you're looking for. Gotta appeal to the largest overseas market. And boy howdy, those chines folks do not like black people.
@Daud-ix4tm
@Daud-ix4tm 9 күн бұрын
​@@Percival983John was a damn tragedy
@Venzynt
@Venzynt 11 күн бұрын
Luke cage, mr terrific, blue marvel*, John Stewart, Falcon - that took way longer than I wanna admit
@Raelyn
@Raelyn 11 күн бұрын
Fuck, I'm so annoyed Luke Cage didn't come to mind. Quite enjoyed his Netflix show. My list was Black Panther, Spectrum, Blue Marvel, John Stewart and Blade.
@Quinz128
@Quinz128 11 күн бұрын
​@@Raelyn I had Black Panther, Cyborg, John Stewart, Ironheart and War Machine... Ironic that it seems most I think of do either have lightning powers or are technology users.
@Marveryn
@Marveryn 11 күн бұрын
@@Quinz128 a lot of superhero are clones of previous superhero. Early batman was the clone of the shadow. Very few original characters.
@stevemclovin1566
@stevemclovin1566 10 күн бұрын
Even jon Stewart used lighting powers, once in static shock.
@Lwiis64
@Lwiis64 7 күн бұрын
These companies preferring to race swap or pass the mantle from established characters as opposed to using original black characters is what exposes their diversity motives as being disingenuous. Disney/Marvel are struggling so hard to make a freakin Blade movie, for god's sake. Old regime WB/DC only planned to make Cyborg, which went out the window the moment the the actor and studio were not in good terms, and a black version of Superman. We'll see what the future holds with Gunn on the helm and if his projects actually see the light of day.
@Diggy22
@Diggy22 4 күн бұрын
No lie, Mr. Terrific is so underrated and under used. I hated how they turned him into a jobber on Arrow, and I'm cautious about how James Gunn will be using Edi Gathegi. (WE REMEMBER DARWIN.) Frankly, the Injustice animated movie did more justice in his character than anything outside of the comics. The dude led the JSA! I'm just jaded when it comes to certain live-action adaptations of DC superheroes.
@kylegivens3120
@kylegivens3120 11 күн бұрын
Your content isn't even negative. You're just spitting up straight up facts dog, don't let the haters get to you man. Keep up the good content, I'll always watch.
@sophieukpaka5709
@sophieukpaka5709 11 күн бұрын
bro was so caught up with milestone , that he forgot the black people in the batfam , like The Signal 😭
@Z.200
@Z.200 11 күн бұрын
Duke Thomas would be a dope robin , signal is a stupid name and lazy costume design
@sophieukpaka5709
@sophieukpaka5709 11 күн бұрын
@@Z.200 *clenches heart , dies * bro you so brutal to my man ah . 😭
@ThePlotMaster1
@ThePlotMaster1 11 күн бұрын
⁠@@Z.200 He’s much better as The Signal than another Robin. They just need to actually UTILIZE him. He’s the only Batfam member working in the morning and has superpowers. Also hes in college, he could be interesting given the chance. If u really had to change his name I’d honesty go with something like Eclipse or Equinox because of his powerset.
@Z.200
@Z.200 11 күн бұрын
@@ThePlotMaster1 I fw him being robin since he started out in “we are robin” and his adult robin appearances in “zero year” and “white knight”
@celestialsoldier622
@celestialsoldier622 11 күн бұрын
Cassandra was the last person added to the Bat-family that people cared about.
@dreskee8422
@dreskee8422 5 күн бұрын
The 5: Green Lantern; Hardware; Icon; Spawn; President Superman.😎
@wilykat
@wilykat 4 күн бұрын
Y'all forgot about Jim Valentino's ShadowHawk. From Image comics. He's a black character. Then we got obscure but dope black characters like Night Thrasher, Rage, Triathlon, BloodWynd, and Sentinel. None of these guys have lightning based powers and two of them don't have any powers at all. Just highly trained abilities.
@MinorityGamerReport1
@MinorityGamerReport1 11 күн бұрын
Still upset that most people think Static’s name is “Static Shock” just because the show was titled that.
@queenzoroark
@queenzoroark 9 күн бұрын
Anyways, Static Shock is awesome.
@cybrid37
@cybrid37 9 күн бұрын
'Static Shock' is a pretty cool superhero name tho.
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 8 күн бұрын
Nothing new. There's people who actually think Samus Aran is called "Metroid" and that "Zelda" is the elf boy with the sword.
@JennySparkz
@JennySparkz 6 күн бұрын
SO GLAD someone brought this up.
@ThePilleroflightning
@ThePilleroflightning 6 күн бұрын
How could you guys forget my boy John “Halo” 117 😎
@waynebrooks880
@waynebrooks880 11 күн бұрын
Sir. This entire video was nothing less than 💯. Especially the CW’s treatment of Black Lightning and Mr. Terrific. And the Tobias Whale/Uncle Ruckus comparison was spot on.
@ChineduOpara
@ChineduOpara 11 күн бұрын
Yeah I laughed when he brought up Uncle Ruckus, cuz I have always thought the same! 😂
@richardhart9204
@richardhart9204 10 күн бұрын
The fact that DC put Cyborg in the Doom Patrol, should tell you all you need to know.
@lWeBeatIt278
@lWeBeatIt278 5 күн бұрын
Actual static and black lightning wasn’t originally apart of DC comics, they got brought by DC to be added to their rooster of characters
@zyairrbissoon
@zyairrbissoon 11 күн бұрын
Black Lightning and Nubia should be more popular, as DCs first black hero and first black female hero they arguably should DCs first picks when needing a black character in something.
@timepilotcluefinder94
@timepilotcluefinder94 11 күн бұрын
Error- Vox is the first Black DC hero and his wife Bumblebee is the first Black DC Heroine. Nubia starts her story off as a villain who slowly reforms into a Wonder Woman mantle- share. This is why she doesn't show up often, despite her 1973 debut. Black Lightning didn't show up until 1977, same year as Bumblebee, but about a few weeks after her. Vixen shows up first in a planned 1978 debut, but it got delayed to the early 80's. Mal Duncan has a 1970 debut which even predated John Stewart in 1971. Bumblebee is often first picked in many adaptations of DC comics for a good reason. She's a teenage female version of the Atom...and his ex-sidekick. (Excuse me, ex-partner...everyone on the Titans feel the same way as Arsenal about being called sidekicks.) This is even referenced in DC's official history...although Karen and Mal often argue whether John, Jeff and Mari were first or if it was them in modern-continuity. Karen says John, Jeff and Mari, Mal says them for both continuity and publication. Logically, Mal's right...he and Karen were first. The Teen Titans were known for being way pavers. Vox debuts as the first black superhero and about a week or two later his wife gets in on the act, then John, Jeff and Mari...but John tends to get "saucy" about being a GL-shareholder in his early days...which is why he floated over everyone's heads...and disgusted everyone except Hal (who recommended it) at first until the Xanshi incident gave him a wakeup call.
@caldw615
@caldw615 10 күн бұрын
Static is more popular due to being younger I think. Hell, being young is largely why Peter Parker as Spider-Man became so huge despite not being the first Superhero. Comic readers were mostly young and latched onto Peter's more relatable struggles with school/dating/bullies etc Nowadays those fans are older and relate to the adult versions of Peter from Spider-Verse and the Insomniac games, meanwhile Miles has sort of picked up some of that younger fan popularity. I think Static fills that similar fan demand, or at least he did when his show was airing.
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 8 күн бұрын
Didn't Nubia get that Tumblr looking comic a while back?
@timepilotcluefinder94
@timepilotcluefinder94 8 күн бұрын
@@wakkaseta8351 yes...and it was odd. Nubia also got a more proper Wonder Woman title at the time too and they had even given her a Future State special where she was connected to African mythology concerning "Aunt Nancy's" flyswatter ex-machina.
@FiestaTX17
@FiestaTX17 11 күн бұрын
I need more Static and Black Lightning in DC media, James Gunn heat our prayers
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 6 күн бұрын
i also just hate that they make all the black male heroes basically look the same... bald or short crop fro...
@reddragon2943
@reddragon2943 7 күн бұрын
My Thoughts and My Opinion. Characters that already have a History of being the race they started out as should always stay that way. I truly hate Race Swapped. it shows that they have no Imagination to come up with New Heroes for different Races. it's sad and Pathetic.
@Payload82
@Payload82 11 күн бұрын
I’m a white man I would be super interested in seeing DC/WB bringing milestones to big screen or small screen and have them become iconic like Batman and Superman.
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
Marvel black heroes are way better than DC black heroes
@wambokodavid7109
@wambokodavid7109 11 күн бұрын
Unfortunately they won't lol
@thickmclargehuge4448
@thickmclargehuge4448 5 күн бұрын
rocket and icon were in young justice cartoon, but didnt really do anything
@The_Unbound
@The_Unbound 11 күн бұрын
Nah, what's up with black heroes with electric powers, tho? Also, why is Black Power Ranger never black!? They give him every other color!! This video has me questioning alot!😂 More serious note: As a black nerd, I really want to see more black heroes in the spotlight. DC has tried to spotlight Black Characters but really failed in the attempts. Also black characters in media aren't taken too well, especially in other countries. One example is black panther poster art being changed for the world wide release hiding chadwicks face with the cowl of the black panther.
@jihadx5307
@jihadx5307 11 күн бұрын
Or robotic, cybernetic ones like Steel, Cyborg & Batwing.
@tracark2255
@tracark2255 11 күн бұрын
there only about 6 black heros with electric powers.
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
Marvel has 100x better black superheroes than DC
@mateushenriquepinheiro3197
@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 11 күн бұрын
​@@tracark2255 I think the problem is that it's considered a trope, because there are enough black heroes with lightning powers to become a trope
@tracark2255
@tracark2255 11 күн бұрын
@@NHTube1 nope
@AstraFulminous
@AstraFulminous 11 күн бұрын
John Steward Miles Morales Black Panther Steel Power Girl (Tanya) Bumble Bee Fire Storm (Injustice) Cyborg Jace Fox Bat Wing Blade Signal Also are we allowed to count Jinx
@SeyeAwonuga
@SeyeAwonuga 10 күн бұрын
Miles morales has electric powers
@michaelharris7157
@michaelharris7157 11 күн бұрын
Mr. Terrific Steel Vixen Cyborg Batwing
@majingunplero8472
@majingunplero8472 11 күн бұрын
Tombstone, Misty Knight, Power Man, Black Goliath, Spider Punk, Falcon, Blade, Black Panther, Puff Adder, Brother Voodo
@xanderg.1070
@xanderg.1070 11 күн бұрын
DC has so many interesting black characters but choose to ignore them is really frustrating. Especially with the ones they do use like John Stewart and Cyborg are often used more like tokens with teams that have mostly white characters.
@laisphinto6372
@laisphinto6372 11 күн бұрын
Blessing in disguise in my opinion because today they cannot handle any Character without pushing some idiotic Agenda and writing IT so badly IT completely Ruins the Character for everyone
@kenschortgenjr7540
@kenschortgenjr7540 4 күн бұрын
I have no idea why they don't use Vixen more. Hells, she was even used in the RWBY/DC crossovers. As Eric July has said over and over... there is not a problem with needing more black superheroes. There is a problem with horrendous writers/writing over at DC. (still wondering what the HELL that thing was in creating Starfire's 'daughter')
@DanteReyesPolymath
@DanteReyesPolymath 6 күн бұрын
Mothers milk, green Lantern, miles morles spawn, blade
@christiangutierrez8841
@christiangutierrez8841 11 күн бұрын
I binge watched Static Shock like a month ago, and i am not gonna lie it was fire. It's social criticism done right. If written well, a Static Animated/Live Action movie has the potential to go toe to toe with spider verse
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 11 күн бұрын
R.i.p Dwayne McDuffie fr.
@streetside2833
@streetside2833 11 күн бұрын
They're gonna make it weird
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 11 күн бұрын
As much as i liked John Stewart in JL and JLU, he was honestly the most boring member of the team to me. Most of his stories were taken from Kyle Reiner or Hal Jordan.
@hoodiek6802
@hoodiek6802 11 күн бұрын
I mean same thing with Barry Allen and Wally West took writers take wallys personality and swap it with barry
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 11 күн бұрын
@hoodiek6802 sort of, but i'd say he had more of Wally West's personality. I'd say they did that more in the Flash CW show.
@2kx62
@2kx62 11 күн бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpBarry was nothing like Wally in the cw tv show, also people only say Barry’s taking Wally personally when he cracks a couple of jokes which is werid bc Barry has always been the most light hearted character in the JL and a jokester. Just that a lot of Barry’s jokes are dads jokes, or jokes that are funny only bc of how awkward the timing or delivery was.
@2kx62
@2kx62 10 күн бұрын
But how does that make him a bad character in the JLU???? Also a lot of elements in Wally west was taken from Barry in the JLU, like how Wally was basically a swap of Barry Allen, living a similar life style, and same exact origin as Barry Allen
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 10 күн бұрын
@2kx62 I'm more saying he took Wally's personality because he wouldn't stop talking. He always had the drop on villains and then he would Crack a joke. And he would lose a lot. It got old and wasn't very funny. I'd always considered Barry to be wiser and thought things through better(aside from Flashpoint).
@EC-ol8nz
@EC-ol8nz 6 күн бұрын
My daddy always said, “Rep yourself!!! No one is going to do it for you better than you.” 👏🏿🤔👍🏿
@moistwindow6094
@moistwindow6094 11 күн бұрын
On everything even outside of me being black, there are so many super cool black superheroes, Mr terrific and steel were some of my favorites as a kid, I was iffy on Victor Baz gl, but I've come around, also BLUE MARVEL, literally one of the most powerful heroes in the verse and you never see him
@blakepittman6679
@blakepittman6679 11 күн бұрын
I want an Icon and Rocket project so bad!!
@eriksnation231
@eriksnation231 4 күн бұрын
I completely agree because after reading about them, their characters are so interesting because there is a dynamic between these two that is really interesting to see because essentially they grow from being partners to pseudo father and daughter, and it makes it more inspiring that Rocket propelled icon to become a superhero, which I find so refreshing Because she wants to generally help their community more ways than one and even go global to help the world and also seeing their viewpoint of how they handle certain topics because icon has such a I would say fashion look on life where as Raquel brings in that spark of hope for a better future which most of time they often clash would you want another regarding these ideology but that’s what makes them such a unique pair imo.
@reidcunningham5906
@reidcunningham5906 11 күн бұрын
I'm a white man, and I agree with EVERY point you make in this video. Glad Mr Terrific is going to be in the new Superman movie. I just hope to see the Milestone project if it ever comes to fruition. Icon and Rocket are great, and Static is awesome. The Milestone characters in Young Justice were also a lot of fun, but just not enough. And Dwayne McDuffey created so much of my childhood, including the JL and JLU cartoons.
@thewatchman13
@thewatchman13 11 күн бұрын
Mr. Sinister? You mean Mr. Terrific? Because Superman and X-men are two completely different things.
@reidcunningham5906
@reidcunningham5906 11 күн бұрын
@@thewatchman13 yeah that's what I meant.
@dayschange2
@dayschange2 8 күн бұрын
Honestly, I would love to see a Mr. Terrific movie. As an admittedly surface level fan, I’ve seen t his character in the background of so many animated DC projects, but this video is probably the most I ever actually heard about him. Third smartest man after Batman and Lex, but with a suggestion that he might have gotten short changed? Sounds he’s done some blockbuster worthy stuff
@mycatcalledluna
@mycatcalledluna 10 күн бұрын
I saw a thread on twitter this morning about how DC isn't using any of their black characters right now and then this pops up lol
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 11 күн бұрын
They’re all so painfully underrated. Static barely shows up, Black Lightning probably has the best interpretations because of Young Justice and his own show but he barely shows up still, Vixen is horribly underused, Duke Thomas I think people usually forget exists, John Stewart hanging byA thread by the DCAU, Kaldur is underused, and I don’t know what the actual hell Icon, Mr. Terrific, Cyborg, Bumblebee, Herald, , or Rocket by doing. When someone mentioned the idea of raceswapping Clark Kent or Hal Jordan it actually pissed me off simply because we already have black supermen (Steel and another one) and Green Lantern (hell we have a black female GL) And honestly, as much as I don’t mind them having lightning abilities….its kinda become a trope in of itself. I’ll kinda like to see them get different abilities other than lightning more. (Also I’m so goddamn irritated by how YJ did Static. They had a damn go to right there with Black Lightning being his mentor….but nope he’s wasted on constant jokes about his lack of a girlfriend…..)
@Percival983
@Percival983 11 күн бұрын
That girlfriend thing pissed me off.Dat was really insulting to me as a black guy. U wanna know one problem with these pple...I will say it..they jus hear black and its like he won't be good looking or we won't waste time on facial creation just give him a bald head and huge lips and u have a black character.😢. MARVEL abandoned dis theory when designing miles..goodness dat guy is fucking good looking to be a cgi creation.And also if they actually make he and Gwen a thing...we talking more fans aswr to God because they too cute.Remember young justice 1 when we first saw lightning...he had a bald head...what's with whites thinking black youngsters and even men don't keep hair.Bald head and eye masks....I'm afraid we don't work like dat No more.Also why did they change static's first hairstyle😏.Dude was fuckin good lookin with his full dreads and they changed it in s3. And just look at the design for his babe.😢😢.So black girls are ugly.Keep fooling urselves,Mr producers.Aqualad became gay out of nowhere...I fainted when he kissed he guy....I loved dat dude and I was traumatized after seeing he was made gay after DC created a beautiful black female Atlantean meta.😂😂
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 11 күн бұрын
I wish Dwayne McDuffie was still around today he'd be the best writer for a lot of them.
@sugarevaa
@sugarevaa 11 күн бұрын
as much as i am a die-hard batman fan, GOD does DC need to step it up with the development of their cast in general. JL and JLU are two of the coolest shows I've watched and I LOVED vixen in it sm I am so sad she isn't pushed. The appeal of JL and JLU is the interactions between a lot of the cast of the JLA and I got attatched to so many of them and I feel like DC just planted a seed and forgot to give it water. I was first exposed to static shock, icon, and rocket through young justice and I thought they was pretty cool and I dunno much about them and milestone, but they are definitely characters that deserve attention and proper development.
@ChineduOpara
@ChineduOpara 11 күн бұрын
Preach!
@SarahPala-sl8hp
@SarahPala-sl8hp 5 күн бұрын
2 words. Dwayne McDuffie. That’s why the 2000-2005 era was so great
@XDarkEcho
@XDarkEcho 7 күн бұрын
FINALLY someone said it! Literally tired of hearing "fans" talk about diversity, but never point out all of the many Black cast of already established heroes we have. Best to give more screen time to these heroes than making up another one solely for brownie points, or Blackwashing/replacing an already established popular hero. Would love to see Vixen get more attention, she has such a kickass power set, as well as Icon and Rocket; if Static could get his own show, I think they could do one for this dynamic duo.
@josiah3820
@josiah3820 10 күн бұрын
Icon. Like yo Icon is sooooooooooo underrated. But I've seen that media hates black characters been center stage. Guess till this day they are afraid of the dark. (Nat King Cole)
@ughitsjaylon
@ughitsjaylon 11 күн бұрын
honestly i wish WB would just give DC property to someone else.
@karimdavis7065
@karimdavis7065 11 күн бұрын
Apple
@abps9947
@abps9947 11 күн бұрын
Hell no definitely it's not your daddy property
@abps9947
@abps9947 11 күн бұрын
Instead of giving its wB should fix it
@abps9947
@abps9947 11 күн бұрын
​@@karimdavis7065nvidia surpassed apple
@ughitsjaylon
@ughitsjaylon 11 күн бұрын
@@abps9947 hell nah WB had their chance for YEARS its time to give it up.
@s.w.a7609
@s.w.a7609 11 күн бұрын
It'd be cool to see vixen in the new dcu. Keep up the passionate.
@demerikkoreynolds7492
@demerikkoreynolds7492 5 күн бұрын
Adam Brashear Mosaic Black Panther Monica Rambeau Blade Every single one has no lightning powers
@Night-Mayor
@Night-Mayor 10 күн бұрын
Static doesn't belong to DC comics. He is still owned by Dwayne McDuffie Estate. Used with special arrangements with DC. Warner Brothers has a problem using Static without full ownership.
@greenskull3384
@greenskull3384 11 күн бұрын
John Stewart, Steel, Blade, War Machine and Spawn. DAMN I'm good!!!
@yxrackman2397
@yxrackman2397 11 күн бұрын
Cloak, bishop etc
@larrylasting2820
@larrylasting2820 11 күн бұрын
falcon,black panther, Mr terrific
@greenskull3384
@greenskull3384 11 күн бұрын
I know most of those. Isn't Mister terrific a new god?
@kadegetslaid634
@kadegetslaid634 11 күн бұрын
​@greenskull3384 mr terrific is the smartest person in dc, not a new god, youre thinking of mr miracle
@greenskull3384
@greenskull3384 11 күн бұрын
@@kadegetslaid634 Thanks. I only vaguely remember Mr Miracle from the DCUA. The Jack Kirby's Jimmy Olsen Adventures r on my comics list, but it's going to be a good long while before I get to them. I'll have to look into Mister Terrific.
@tracark2255
@tracark2255 11 күн бұрын
That one dude who keeps replying "Marvel black heroes are way better than DC black heroes" gotta chill out lol
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 11 күн бұрын
That dude woke up to start shit 😂
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
I’m just saying facts
@karimdavis7065
@karimdavis7065 11 күн бұрын
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters . Green Lantern John Stewart . Static Shock . Icon . Cyborg . Black Lightning . Rocket . Bronze Tiger . Steel . Nubia . Natasha Irons . Black Manta . Aqualad . Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson) . Kid Flash (Wallace West) . Vixen . Signel
@NHTube1
@NHTube1 11 күн бұрын
@@karimdavis7065 DC’s black heroes are stereotypical.
@SarahPala-sl8hp
@SarahPala-sl8hp 5 күн бұрын
@@NHTube1no? Have u watched jlu
@masenguerra7835
@masenguerra7835 11 күн бұрын
Okay I tested myself real quick on the 5 black no lighting super hero’s 1. Icon, aka milestones Superman 2. Vixen 3. John Henry irons, steel 4. Natasha irons, the second steel 5. John Stuart In all honesty tho I find it harder to name black female heroes. I mainly read DC and vixen and Natasha are the only two I can really think of without looking up a reminder.
@maxinezook3835
@maxinezook3835 6 күн бұрын
Another DC black female hero who I'm a big fan of is Skyrocket from Kurt Busiek's series The Power Company which ran for 18 issues from 2002-2003. She was said to be inspired by GL Hal Jordan in her origin comic but actually was more like the Steels or Marvel Comics' Iron Man with using a powered armor suit she built herself. Her suit also had an American patriotic theme so I wondered if Kurt Busiek also created her as a sly nod to both Iron Man & Captain America 😊 After The Power Company's end Skyrocket had a few appearances in other comics but has since faded into obscurity. I'd love to see her again but think it's highly unlikely DC will find a reason to bring her back & honestly unless she could appear in well-written stories & not just be C-list cannon fodder she might just be better off in Limbo.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 8 күн бұрын
Five black DC superheroes without lightning-based powers: 1) Icon 2) Mr. Terrific 3) Green Lantern John Stewart 4) Steel 5) Cyborg
@ughitsjaylon
@ughitsjaylon 11 күн бұрын
hell nah tobias was wilding 🤣🤣🤣
@MaigenMaylight
@MaigenMaylight 11 күн бұрын
Recently I've been wanting to see a push for Jace Fox, even though some people find him irrelevant if Bruce is still around. But really he doesn't have to be *Batman* - he can just be Batwing.
@xxmigs41xx
@xxmigs41xx 7 күн бұрын
cyborg's arc being axed in JL was criminal, was really the only part i liked about the snydercut
@oruncrest
@oruncrest 5 күн бұрын
My try at the 5 non-electrical black superheroes: skipping Icon, Rocket, Steel, & Natasha... • Tyroc (Power: can make Sonic Constructs, kinda like from a GL ring, but by screaming) • Invisible Kid II (Jaques Foquart. Took the invisibility serum of Invisible Kid I to save his sister Danielle from the evil A.I. Computo and joined the Legion of Superheroes afterward) • Computo II (Danielle Foquart. After recovering from her possession from the evil A.I. Computo, Danielle discovered that she could now control computers. After the destruction of Earth, she joined the rebanded Legion just before the story was retconned out of existence.) • Kid Quantum I (After the reboot, this Kid Quantum had 'powers' bestowed thru his belt... that failed on his first mission... which led to his death... yeah........) • XS (Jenni Ognats. Bart Allen's cousin. The Speed Force runs through her veins...) • Kid Quantum II (After Kid Quantum I died, his home planet would later send his sister to join the Legion, although this time they made sure that her powers didn't need technological enhancements. She lasted till the universe was rebooted AGAIN) There we go. Six black Superheroes. Three of whom are female. None of which use electricity.
@gamerath5331
@gamerath5331 11 күн бұрын
Can you make a video about Superman and Batman being best friends and how making them fight all the time is getting old
@SecretMagician
@SecretMagician 11 күн бұрын
He did make one.
@Achieme
@Achieme 11 күн бұрын
I think he did already like 3 videos ago
@MEnterprises01
@MEnterprises01 11 күн бұрын
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@user-gj9uq3kb7y
@user-gj9uq3kb7y 11 күн бұрын
But people love seeing Batman Beating Superman to the ground
@TheChadTI
@TheChadTI 11 күн бұрын
10:00 THIS. Started with the new 52 and it felt weird. Shit, he works better in Doom Patrol than the JLA, but he belongs in the Titans. He was the best character in Zacks JLA though.
@xanderg.1070
@xanderg.1070 11 күн бұрын
Exactly, and not to mention that during his time as a member of the Teen Titans/Titans and in the Doom Patrol show, he was written as an actual character rather than just the token black tech guy
@ArcTrooperRod-269
@ArcTrooperRod-269 3 күн бұрын
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2 күн бұрын
Another thing is that, they GOTTA stop tossing Michael B. Jordan’s name so casually on all of these random projects. It really feels like they just say it to get some studio execs off their necks for a year or two. Like bro can’t be tied to EVERY black character project cmon…
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