Boeing 737 flies Through a BRICK WALL!

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Mentour Pilot

Mentour Pilot

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@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 2 ай бұрын
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@kaiperdaens7670
@kaiperdaens7670 Ай бұрын
Are you planning to ever fly again?
@Aterhallsam
@Aterhallsam 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The captain of that plane was actually nominated for ”Most laid back pilot of the year”.
@jorgeferreira2009
@jorgeferreira2009 Жыл бұрын
I heard he's a back-breaking hard working guy
@aurelia8028
@aurelia8028 Жыл бұрын
lol
@genx-nostalgix3119
@genx-nostalgix3119 Жыл бұрын
He is truly someone you can lean on
@literatouristin
@literatouristin Жыл бұрын
Oh, c'mon! This are a bunch of flat jokes.
@Cakeytoo
@Cakeytoo Жыл бұрын
Actually or as a joke?
@psychocuda
@psychocuda 3 жыл бұрын
737-800: resilient enough to crash its gear through a wall and make it back safely. Also the 737-800: over-tightened screw on recliner almost crashes the plane.
@maiden5427
@maiden5427 3 жыл бұрын
Nah I honestly don't know how the the pilot didn't realize he pulled back the throttles
@RoBert-ix6ev
@RoBert-ix6ev 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the pilot seat are made in britain...
@aserta
@aserta 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoBert-ix6ev Looking at the seat mechanism, i'm shocked that such a flimsy and POS mechanism is what keeps the chair up. It's absolutely garbage. Even a freaking Lada chair has a better reclining mechanism...
@RoBert-ix6ev
@RoBert-ix6ev 3 жыл бұрын
@@aserta yeah,well,it is what it is...
@francoisscala417
@francoisscala417 3 жыл бұрын
There is no checklist for the pilot seat ?
@simranmishra7442
@simranmishra7442 Жыл бұрын
I am working as lead cabin crew for an Indian Airlines, I watch your videos thoroughly,it just makes me take my job seriously. I really admire how you make the investigation sound so fascinating,it's engaging. Happy landings Captain.
@ennui7778
@ennui7778 Жыл бұрын
Would love to fly with you someday and maybe even share appreciation for how awesome mentour pilot's videos are (I might be watching his vids to pass the time!) I have always adored flying since I was a little kid and loved meeting the pilots and flight attendants, I've even been given pins and little toy airplanes as a kid I guess because I charmed the crew 😅 Mentour Pilot has inspired me to pursue getting my own wings again as well, a dream I had as a youngster but forgot about due to lack of money at a younger age and the mundanities of life. Happy landings!
@sahl8806
@sahl8806 6 ай бұрын
Indian Airlines? Deliberate attempt to not name Air India?
@shet2
@shet2 6 ай бұрын
@@sahl8806maybe they don’t work for Air India but one of the various other Indian airlines like Vistara, IndiGo, Spice jet….
@shet2
@shet2 6 ай бұрын
@@sahl8806maybe they don’t work for Air India but rather one of the various other Indian airlines like Vistara, IndiGo, Spice Jet…
@j68715
@j68715 5 ай бұрын
I think flight attendants have extremely difficult jobs, and we don't give you enough respect. You are servers, bartenders, dealing with unruly passengers in the worst possible environment, watching for potential threats, and simultaneously, you are responsible for our lives. As a former bartender on the ground, I can't imagine doing that 1 job in the air, especially when you don't know how much people have been drinking at the airport. Then there are the people who yell at you at the airport because yelling at the person responsible for your flight, seating, and safety is a great idea? I fly often, I'm always SO kind to the cabin crew and typically bring a small gift or just a card. I often get free drinks and better seating for being a lovely passenger, but it's not why I do it. It's respect. People are tired jerks to you guys. A simple, written, " Thank you for what you do," is always met with so much appreciation by the cabin crew. You clearly just don't hear it enough. So, THANK YOU for what you do!
@LowVoltage_FPV
@LowVoltage_FPV 3 жыл бұрын
I worked as a mechanic of bush planes in northern ontario (Canada) for several years. One time I took a flight in one of our 206's on floats to recover another of our planes that was stuck at a remote lake due to a mechanical problem. As we accelerated down the lake for takeoff, I noticed that the pilot had placed his left hand on the strengthening bars that crossed the windshield. I noticed that the paint was worn away from him holding onto it. I commented about how he had taken his hand off the throttle and grabbed the bar. He told me that he did it every takeoff. Many years earlier he was on takeoff and the seat rolled back on the seat rails. That didn't result in a crash, but it scared him so badly that he always grabbed onto something solid for every takeoff.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, it’s a nasty thing to happen
@N0d4chi
@N0d4chi 3 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot What would happen if the pilot falling backwards jolted the stick left or right? Would the controls respond too quickly for the copilot to adjust back so the plane would pull off the runway?
@Kevin_747
@Kevin_747 3 жыл бұрын
Bush pilot working from experience. Cessna seat tracks are notorious for letting go after long time in service. The new replacements are much better.
@JanCiger
@JanCiger 3 жыл бұрын
@@N0d4chi "Jolting" the yoke sideways wouldn't likely do much (when the seat collapses you pull back, you don't turn the yoke), plus the plane was still too slow for the ailerons to have much effect. However, he definitely could lose yaw control because his feet lost position on the rudder pedals which control turning of the plane while still on the ground. Otherwise - pull the yoke with you backwards -> yank the plane into the air at too low airspeed, stall, spin, crash and die. Or if you get lucky then you only lose yaw control while still on the ground and run the plane off the runway, most likely hitting something. Lot of general aviation accidents happened because of this (seat either collapsing or shifting backwards) and checking that the seat is secure is in most general aviation plane pre-flight checklists for this reason.
@randc47
@randc47 3 жыл бұрын
@@N0d4chi Yoke inputs left or right wouldn’t do much at that point. Had he fallen back and stepped on a pedal, then the plane could have gone off the runway left or right.
@toemblem
@toemblem 3 жыл бұрын
Boeing's new sales pitch: You can fly our planes through antennas and a mother effin brick wall and they will still hold together.
@Brian01987
@Brian01987 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao you should go tell that to the 346 souls that got murdered cause of Boeings MCAS.. Oklahoma city bombing only killed 168 people... Boeings MCAS doubled the body count with no bomb. hahahaha
@toemblem
@toemblem 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brian01987 not sure why you think death is funny but you're off base on your blame. Boeing could have done better but competent pilots would have saved those aircraft. Also, Airbus has had at least 7 software related crashes that killed all on board.
@garydunken7934
@garydunken7934 3 жыл бұрын
Boeing: ..however, pilot seat may fold back unexpectedly.
@rlyle5804
@rlyle5804 3 жыл бұрын
@@toemblem NAILED IT! The Indonesian flight crew NEVER should have left the ground. PS Do you have info on the Airbus software crashes? Thanks!
@rlyle5804
@rlyle5804 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brian01987 You should do some research before commenting.
@SaaMaistaa
@SaaMaistaa Жыл бұрын
Imagine the passengers feeling after having a 4 hour flight from Mumbai to Mumbai
@madamebkrt
@madamebkrt Жыл бұрын
LOL
@TheMiniman93
@TheMiniman93 Жыл бұрын
This. Is. Brilliant. 😂😂
@sedmidivka
@sedmidivka Жыл бұрын
at least it wasn't to heaven :) but the joke was f*cking hilarious 😂😂😂😂
@ashwinchippagiri9976
@ashwinchippagiri9976 Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t Mumbai to Mumbai.
@TheMiniman93
@TheMiniman93 Жыл бұрын
@@ashwinchippagiri9976 it was a joke 🤷😂
@matthiashellwig5722
@matthiashellwig5722 3 жыл бұрын
I love it how peacefully your dogs behave while discussing drama.
@cantfindmykeys
@cantfindmykeys 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you love how they have the same hair color? Well, they say people look like their dogs.
@gregjones1537
@gregjones1537 Жыл бұрын
@@cantfindmykeys lol
@eldoolittle
@eldoolittle Жыл бұрын
I thought it was a plush toy until it blinked.
@liesdamnlies3372
@liesdamnlies3372 Жыл бұрын
Since dogs respond very sensitively to human emotions, that indicates Peter is super calm himself. Definitely a good sign for a pilot.
@arasb3258
@arasb3258 Жыл бұрын
As cool as this vid is, the dog is still the coolest part. Thanks for including him! We are lucky to have them...
@Two-Checks
@Two-Checks 3 жыл бұрын
Tower: "Get back here, we need your insurance info." Flight: "Ah, all operations normal."
@koogle5410
@koogle5410 3 жыл бұрын
they use Tower insurance no doubt.
@billysgeo
@billysgeo 3 жыл бұрын
It's a tank, not a pane! Good day sir!
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 3 жыл бұрын
*shoots radio* It was a boring conversation anyhow.
@Crazy--Clown
@Crazy--Clown 3 жыл бұрын
Typical responses from Indians
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crazy--Clown sounds kinda racist to me
@reeritz1280
@reeritz1280 2 жыл бұрын
What I find amazing is the landing gear, even after hitting the wall & wrapping wire around itself, it continued to function...not only for a test after they knew it hit the wall, but on the final landing it worked as well...amazing!
@neotastic5731
@neotastic5731 Жыл бұрын
Yeah tbh I do t think that the f-18s landing gear would have survived that
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
Also, the debris from hitting the wall was still stuck on the gear AFTER landing.
@deeffourjay5632
@deeffourjay5632 Жыл бұрын
Could have been a disaster if landing gear had been compromised and failed.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
@@deeffourjay5632 Yeah, it's one of those cases where "it could always be worse" applies.
@caseydykes117
@caseydykes117 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I am very impressed with the structural integrity of that plane. 10/10 to the manufacturing and assembly teams 🙌🏼🙌🏼
@ellicel
@ellicel 3 жыл бұрын
Other channels cover air crash investigations as well, but I feel what really sets this channel apart is the level of care taken to educate us about expected or normal processes and basics of aviation. That way we can completely understand what went wrong and can fully comprehend the analysis and conclusions from the investigation. This means I not only learn what happened in this specific case, but can also apply that understanding to other situations. This has demystified air crashes for me and has given me so much more appreciation for the expertise and professionalism of flight crew. I credit this educational emphasis for keeping the conversation in the comments largely positive, as well-instead of the toxic environment that unfortunately permeates most KZbin comments sections. I’m grateful for the content of the videos and for the team’s efforts in creating a welcoming and positive community.
@dominicMcAfee
@dominicMcAfee 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Excellent comment bud! Thank you
@ellicel
@ellicel 3 жыл бұрын
@@dominicMcAfee Even though I’m not in aviation, I have learned so much that I can apply to my project management job. The script always includes very good advice from which viewers can generalize concepts to deal with confirmation bias, decision making challenges, resource management, analysis of human factors (instead of blaming), etc. I can honestly say this information has directly helped me become better at my chosen profession and I’m quite grateful.
@TheVillageIdiotUk
@TheVillageIdiotUk 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. There are lessons and processes which can be transferred across many disciplines. I really appreciate the forensic analysis of what went wrong but also the various options (missed in this case) for resolving the problem before impact, and of course the appropriate procedure applied in the QRF. Great comment !
@StretchFletcher
@StretchFletcher 3 жыл бұрын
100%.
@daliuskal
@daliuskal 3 жыл бұрын
I think most channels on air crash investigations are not created by actual pilots, so they can't really cover and explain everything so in-depth.
@razorwings18
@razorwings18 3 жыл бұрын
Back in flight school my instructors were adamant about having me check that the seat was fixed and secured as part of the Before Takeoff checklist. I was so amused by the fact that something so simple could cause a crash that it always stayed in my mind and not a single flight went by where I didn't give my seat a decent thrashing before takeoff.
@anjhindul
@anjhindul 2 жыл бұрын
That is part of commercial truck driving, you have to get in and physically inspect the seatbelt, seat and steering wheel (windows, tires etc also of course!) There is NO EXCUSE for the seat back error, imho. Perhaps these two know to check it now, hopefully?
@KDu400
@KDu400 2 жыл бұрын
“A decent thrashing” how you worded that and the mental image in my head of a pilot jumping around in his chair makes this hilarious. Imagine what that would look like if someone were outside looking in 🤣🤣
@ScarletFlames1
@ScarletFlames1 2 жыл бұрын
@@anjhindul I remember when I worked as a security guard for a distribution center right at the end of my shift one of the truckers was going home and offered me a lift, when we went to the parked truck he sat in his seat and started rattling the half open window up and down, tugging hard on the seat belt and tugging hard on the steering wheel. Made me laugh at the time and didn't even bother asking why he did, now it connected in my head and makes sense. If those fail while he's driving 100kmph down the highway it could cause him to crash.
@gorillaau
@gorillaau 2 жыл бұрын
@@KDu400 It brought up a scene from the tv series Fawlty Towers. "Right, I'm going to give you a damn good thrashing!" Looks left and right and comes back with a tree branch to hit his unreliable and now non-starting car.
@robertgary3561
@robertgary3561 2 жыл бұрын
@@anjhindul Unfortunately those are hard to test in airplanes. The seat is smashed between the side of the aircraft and the center console. You'd need to lie on the ground with a mirror to see it.
@areza15143
@areza15143 2 жыл бұрын
Cessna had this problem about 20-30 years ago, somebody crashed and suffered serious burns after his seat slid back on takeoff. It was some insanely large lawsuit, many tens of millions. That’s why the checklist spells out checking the seat is locked prior to take off. Since hearing that story, I’ve always been diligent about that step
@neuropilot7310
@neuropilot7310 Жыл бұрын
When I was learning to fly in a Cessa, about 25 years ago, it was a common and well known issue. Typically before engine start, and before takeoff we'd ensure seat rail, and recline (if applicable) were locked firmly. Usually if not locked, the seat would only slide back a little before locking into the stop, and not full aft, but still enough to startle the pilot.
@superconnie5003
@superconnie5003 Жыл бұрын
The was locking device in place at rails
@petesellers1694
@petesellers1694 3 жыл бұрын
Your story reminds me of a flight I had. I was the co-pilot on a 747 ( i think it was a 747F but not sure) A three man crew, pilot, co-pilot and a flight engineer. We were leaving Narita at night. The taxiway that leads onto the runway is a very gentle curve so that when your finally on runway heading during the takeoff your going about 60 kts. On the three man 747 the pilot flying sets t/o pwr announces take off thrust and has his hand on the throttles while the engineer also sets the power and monitors the engines The Capt I was flying with was a short pudgy guy who never stopped talking. During the rolling takeoff the Capt`s seat came loose from the seat track lock and rolled back and outboard. (On this model 747 the capts seat track after coming straight back about 18 inches it then curves left and moves about 8 inches outboard while continuing back. ) WE must have been doing 120/130 kts. I looked over and the capt was waving his little arms and legs but couldn`t reach any of the controls. I took the controls and continued the t/o. After we got up into the air and I had retracted the gear and was working on raising the flaps the engineer pushed the back of the capt`s seat with his left foot and the capt rejoined us. He sputtered why didn`t you do do do something? I told him that I was busy flying the aircraft. The shut him up for quite a while. I had not thought of that for over 30 years. Good times.
@Sushi2735
@Sushi2735 2 жыл бұрын
Bahahaha ❤️❤️❤️
@Pulapaws
@Pulapaws 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I guess the plane was like shut up and stop talking and just removed him from the area, lol. 😂
@lodnisroub
@lodnisroub 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, I am trying to imagine your F/E keeping the captains seat upright with his left foot and I just can't :-D
@Jack_The_Ripper_Here
@Jack_The_Ripper_Here 2 жыл бұрын
Weird
@envitech02
@envitech02 2 жыл бұрын
Always Aviate, Navigate and then Communicate. In that order
@kennethmc2601
@kennethmc2601 2 жыл бұрын
I worked on a military airfield years ago, tons of F16s all day every day. I took some of the electricians out to the north end to figure out why an ILS antenna wasnt working. It was designed with a shear pin to allow it to fall in an impact. We were sitting there trying to figure out if one of the mowers hit it, or if someone backed into it with a truck when I looked at the top horizontal antennas. They all had a tire mark. Measurements matched up with an F16 tire. He had to have tapped it so lightly that he didnt even know.
@6z0
@6z0 2 жыл бұрын
I call bullshit. How does an F16 not get up in the air until the end of the runway? A B737 is somewhat understandable if power is not at full, but for an F16? Even at half power, an F16 would get up in the air quicker than a B737 could with full power.
@kennethmc2601
@kennethmc2601 2 жыл бұрын
@@6z0 It happened on landing.
@carolineleach7689
@carolineleach7689 2 жыл бұрын
@@6z0 I was totally agreeing your comment , , , , , until I read Kenneth's response, , , , , Lol , a runway has two ends, hey? , , , doh
@6z0
@6z0 2 жыл бұрын
@@carolineleach7689 no shit it makes more sense, but thats not really relevant to this specific story and he could have specified it was on landing.
@hecdavid11
@hecdavid11 2 жыл бұрын
@@6z0 For some reason while reading the og comment I just assumed it happened on landing, but upon re-reading I realize Kenneth never actually specified it
@tracy736
@tracy736 11 ай бұрын
At last I figured out what happened to the walls of our airport at Trichy 😂. Glad that the crew and passengers were safe❤
@obitouchiha4739
@obitouchiha4739 4 ай бұрын
What, they haven't replaced it?
@dYanamatic
@dYanamatic 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how I ended up on your channel but I watch it every night. Your delivery of this is SO fascinating. Love your detail and you make something that could be so complex much simpler! Who ever thought I would be watching this!! You are amazing!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to have you here. Welcome to the channel!
@gardensteps
@gardensteps 2 жыл бұрын
@ Mariah Same here. Very informative, and exceedingly fascinating
@carrielynnmcdermott8552
@carrielynnmcdermott8552 2 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot I love your videos! They are always done so well and so informative! You always do such an amazing job and I really enjoy watching your videos. Also, your little dog is so cute! I just love her! What kind of pup is she?
@cokesmocker39
@cokesmocker39 2 жыл бұрын
I swear to God I thought it was a stuffed animal bear in his lap in the beginning and never even gave it another look until I read your comment 🤣🤣🤣
@carrielynnmcdermott8552
@carrielynnmcdermott8552 2 жыл бұрын
@@cokesmocker39 Haha! Yeah she’s so well behaved and a tiny little thing 😊
@marvinkitfox3386
@marvinkitfox3386 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with the seat: it happens. The problem with the throttle: totally understandable. The only *real* fail is when the pilots decided to NOT CHECK the tailstrike checklist, even though they both noticed the thump during takeoff, AND got informed by ATC of a ground collision. That failure is not just silly, but downright criminally negligent.
@danielkeirsteadsr6939
@danielkeirsteadsr6939 2 жыл бұрын
Often it is just some unusual / stupid little thing and everything else goes out the window that has been drummed into their head. A Deer in the headlights comes to mind.
@lvlavericktheoutsider1090
@lvlavericktheoutsider1090 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Kriddle1229
@Kriddle1229 2 жыл бұрын
It's by definition not criminally negligent. Negligent? For sure. But they did not commit a crime.
@marvinkitfox3386
@marvinkitfox3386 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kriddle1229 You do not consider endangering lives, both on the plane and on the ground, through complete disregard of safety protocols as criminal? You are then also the sort of person who refuses to wear a seatbelt, because "that's no crime"?And who drives through a red traffic light, because that, too, is merely endangerign yourself and others through disregard of the rules. The operations procedure for airplane flight are not just guidelines, hints as to what would be a good idea. They are LAWS, and choosing to not comply with them is, yes, criminal.
@Kriddle1229
@Kriddle1229 2 жыл бұрын
@@marvinkitfox3386 When, did I ever give my opinion on if I think it SHOULD be a crime or not? Don't be a typical internet mouth breather that attacks someone for not agreeing with you.
@Veloxzr
@Veloxzr Жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but laugh at the dramatic intro of the pilot's seat falling back. Usually it begins with engine fire, or loss of control or something else gravely serious. The seat falling backwards felt almost like a comedy skit :D
@listerdave1240
@listerdave1240 3 жыл бұрын
It is almost plausible that just based on the noise they heard and the what the instruments told them they would continue to fly but once they were informed by the airport of the damage they caused on the ground it is inconceivable that they decided to continue to their destination. No matter what the instruments tell you, if you have crashed your plane through a brick wall and demolished a bunch of antennas you get back on the ground as quickly as you safely can.
@lorimann6022
@lorimann6022 3 жыл бұрын
I have one question??? Is that pilot still flying???
@MegaSnow121
@MegaSnow121 3 жыл бұрын
That was my thought, too. Why the heck did they not go back for safety reasons? I really hope these two pilots are no longer flying.
@horatioyen256
@horatioyen256 3 жыл бұрын
yep
@urduib
@urduib 3 жыл бұрын
These pilots have clearly no grasp on how materials speed impact stress and structural damage works in the real world. They should not be pilots, when failing first grade science. They even have 1 page telling them, possible tail damage = land the fucking plane.
@Milesco
@Milesco 3 жыл бұрын
@@urduib : Well, they never looked at the tailstrike checklist, so they wouldn't have seen that instruction. Nonetheless, the damage to the localizer and the wall should've been more than enough to tell them they should turn around and come back immediately.
@jzero5461
@jzero5461 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 14 and just starting flying, the seat in my 152 slid to the full back position during takeoff. Luckily I somehow knew to let go of the controls instantly. My flight instructor took over and we took off normally. From then on I always check the seat locking mechanism before every flight. Alot of older aircraft are still flying with seat locks that have been recalled for that exact reason.
@frogstamper
@frogstamper 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the same thing happen driving a car and that was bad enough, but for that to happen in an aircraft while you're just about to take-off must be terrifying.
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 3 жыл бұрын
People have been killed in 150/152s from exactly this seat problem. It was subject to an airworthiness directive one time.
@stenic2
@stenic2 3 жыл бұрын
It happened to me too, the urge to grab the control wheel and pull is very strong
@autumnleaves2766
@autumnleaves2766 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this one ended happily, it could have been so much worse. ATC was very helpful in telling the pilots quickly what had happened, so it's surprising that they didn't turn back straight away. I wonder if the pilots were disciplined for this. Also wonder if the plane was repaired or had to be written off.
@crypton7572
@crypton7572 2 жыл бұрын
The aircraft was repaired and is still doing flights
@RunawayTrain2502
@RunawayTrain2502 Жыл бұрын
VT-AYD is currently still active with Air India Express
@AC-li2pj
@AC-li2pj Жыл бұрын
@@crypton7572 what’s the name of it so I can make sure I never go on it
@fastst1
@fastst1 Жыл бұрын
@@AC-li2pj Thats one durable plane, good for another wall or two
@AC-li2pj
@AC-li2pj Жыл бұрын
@@fastst1 lmao 🤣
@snapicvs
@snapicvs 3 жыл бұрын
So relieved that the outcome wasn’t catastrophic.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, me to!
@samuraiwarriorsunite
@samuraiwarriorsunite 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen many of these incidents covered on other channels but without the extensive details you provide. In many cases it's like I'm watching a brand new video. Always nice to get an actual pilots perspective.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear!
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the cattle section on a DC-9 years ago, awaiting departure. Time came and went, and the boarding door and cockpit door are still open. Finally, the lead flight attendant informs us the pilot's seat won't lock in position so we cannot depart. At the time, it was irritating, but rules are rules. I have no idea what the problem was, but we eventually had to disembark and move to another aircraft. It still amazes me the seat was that messed up a mechanic couldn't fix it in over half an hour.
@tomclark6271
@tomclark6271 3 жыл бұрын
During my primary flight training and while flying solo a C150, my seat back broke just as I was climbing through 500' to avoid the terrain on takeoff. Thankfully, I had just trimmed the airplane for the climb out, so when I fell backwards and released the yoke (lightning reflexes) the airplane continued to climb at Vx. It took several seconds of grabbing for anything other than the control yoke to pull myself upright. Once I got myself stabilized, I turned towards home plate and radioed for a straight-in approach, about three miles. Upon safely landing I inspected the seat and discovered the broken stop tabs that had precipitated my predicament. When all was said and done, the repair of the seat caused an AD for that particular type seat installation, which was vastly better than an NTSB recommendation following what could have been a fatal accident.
@tubyjl
@tubyjl 3 жыл бұрын
Tom, I can imagine the feeling... especially as (if i understood properly) you were on your own during the incident. Flying is not an innocent occupation... unexpected risks are around you at all times, including the most unexpected ones!!
@the_bottomfragger
@the_bottomfragger 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to hear! I'm still fascinated about how some people simply have the completely right responses upon danger and adrenaline and are able to get into a super rational state while some don't seem to have that and either get flustered or simply shut down. Hard to test but you find out immediately which one you are when you're in a situation like that.
@danielkeirsteadsr6939
@danielkeirsteadsr6939 2 жыл бұрын
Get you 2 vice grips put one on each rail behind your seat stops. It worked on my 18-wheeler. Once my seat airbag burst and all i could see out the windshield was birds and clouds. kinda like when i was 5 sitting behind the wheel of Daddy's 1947 Chrysler. lol
@citadelofwinds1564
@citadelofwinds1564 2 жыл бұрын
This example shows just how crucial certain things are when flying aircraft: 1 Fast reflexes in an emergency 2 Correct decisions made during the emergency 3 Immediate risk assessment to decide whether it's safe to continue the flight 4 Correct decisions based on a realistic assessment of the overall risks and consequences Seems like the pilots in the video failed point 4 when they chose not to return to the departure airport.
@lvlavericktheoutsider1090
@lvlavericktheoutsider1090 2 жыл бұрын
Outch
@joebrown1382
@joebrown1382 3 жыл бұрын
EVERYONE on that plane was extremely lucky. This story shows ANYTHING can happen in flight. Very interesting incident. Thanks
@Marcel_Glanzer-Unterscheider
@Marcel_Glanzer-Unterscheider 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes your so true everyone can be happy that they are still alive. It´s crazy!
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marcel_Glanzer-Unterscheider true life is unpredictable
@Marcel_Glanzer-Unterscheider
@Marcel_Glanzer-Unterscheider 3 жыл бұрын
@@kirilmihaylov1934 Yeah that´s aktually true, but don´t be to scary about true life (;
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marcel_Glanzer-Unterscheider that's the truth
@StratMatt777
@StratMatt777 3 жыл бұрын
This story shows that anything can happen while dragging your 737 across the ground like a dog drags its butt. I'm not sure that an altitude of 5 feet, while smashing through the airport's wall is what I would consider "in flight". ;)
@juliasmet6052
@juliasmet6052 2 жыл бұрын
My husband is playing flight simulator, I m watching these videos so I can understand better. I love your channel! I especially love the avoided disasters, so much to learn without the sadness of lost lives.
@bobsykes
@bobsykes 3 жыл бұрын
This one is amazing. Totally agree, the airworthiness of that plane after undergoing that kind of damage is phenomenal.
@dylanattix2765
@dylanattix2765 2 жыл бұрын
It's built out of the same stuff as N64s.
@jpp9876
@jpp9876 3 жыл бұрын
You have to give Beoing credit for building such a durable landing gear. That being said if the 737 was a foot lower it could have been a total tragedy.
@Khalcetines
@Khalcetines 3 жыл бұрын
They could work on their chairs tho XD That chair almost cost them hundreds of lives
@jpp9876
@jpp9876 3 жыл бұрын
@@Khalcetines true
@621Tomcat
@621Tomcat 3 жыл бұрын
The older 737s even had gravel kits that allowed them to land on semi-prepared fields. Mostly guards around the gear to keep stones and stuff from getting flung up damaging the plane
@endokrin7897
@endokrin7897 2 жыл бұрын
@@Khalcetines To be clear, it wasn't Boeing's fault the chair failed. 19:55 shows it was the Company maintenance that messed up. They overtightened the mechanism, which prevented the chair from fully locking. There are specific specifications for a reason. If maintenance follows procedure, everything will be fine.
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 2 жыл бұрын
@@endokrin7897 I might not even be qualified for "Aircraft Mechanic"... Hell, I haven't even taken the ASE test, but I believe VERY strongly that the best money any tech' can put in his vehicle is 1. Hayne's or Chilton's guide and 2. Torque Wrench... For this very kind of reason. No good comes from "technical terms" like "Tight-tight" or "Snugged up good" when a $0.99 nut can cause thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage and get people killed. ;o)
@tinman8972
@tinman8972 2 жыл бұрын
With fixed wing aircraft, as long as you're still in controlled flight after an "incident," you have the time to hit those checklists and make the right decisions. What amazing engineering on the 737-800, to take damage like this and still bring them home! Great video!
@sethgriffin763
@sethgriffin763 2 жыл бұрын
What I get from these videos is just how amazing these investigating teams are. The way they piece the puzzles together shows how bright these people are.
@j.d.5262
@j.d.5262 3 жыл бұрын
Your dog is like: "it's OK human, I'll be here when you talk to yourself.."
@guardrailbiter
@guardrailbiter 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate doggo thought bubble: "I wish he loved me as much as he loved that video camera."
@imlistening1137
@imlistening1137 3 жыл бұрын
At first, I thought puppy was a teddy bear!
@SilverLady52
@SilverLady52 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize it was a real dog! Lol
@Nilguiri
@Nilguiri 3 жыл бұрын
Patxi would have landed immediately.
@mickeypopa
@mickeypopa 3 жыл бұрын
@@imlistening1137 It's actually a puppy bear - half dog half fluffy toy. :D
@HH-bi7yk
@HH-bi7yk 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a trainee pilot nor intending to be a pilot. But I love watching all the videos you make and I enjoy the commentary and explanation that you make. Amazing work
@barbarachambers7974
@barbarachambers7974 Жыл бұрын
The best part for me is the perspective from a pilot.
@effluviah7544
@effluviah7544 3 жыл бұрын
This series is the absolute best. Interesting, educational, engaging. Thanks again for another wonderful summary and review of an incident.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for watching and your nice words! Great to have you onboard.
@antoniolen-rios8482
@antoniolen-rios8482 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I was informed that the aircraft broke a wall, I would return straight to the airport. I wouldn't even need the checklist to know to do that, and I am not even a pilot.
@josfielden8622
@josfielden8622 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely ! Seems they didn't know about a tail strike check list. You would think they would have read (not necessarily learned !) all the emergency check lists before even getting into the aircraft. If they had done this they would have known about that particular check list !
@titan4110
@titan4110 3 жыл бұрын
I mean you aren't a pilot so that would explain why you wouldn't pay any heed to a checklist or know about air traffic.
@thewaywardwind548
@thewaywardwind548 3 жыл бұрын
@FlyFartherYeah, I agree they should have returned, but after a couple hours into the flight, I do not understand the instruction to land at a MORE DISTANT airport than the destination airport.
@thewaywardwind548
@thewaywardwind548 3 жыл бұрын
@@josfielden8622
@russbell6418
@russbell6418 3 жыл бұрын
@@thewaywardwind548 Either a delay in company awareness of their location, more complete mechanical facilities at chosen destination, or company (vs contract) mechanical facilities at chosen destination. The last two reveal a cost-safety analysis that shows the company in an extremely bad light.
@supermendi0078
@supermendi0078 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there Mentour, just wanted to thank you for all your time and dedication making these videos, they are incredibly valuable for those of us who aspire to learn from mistakes we could’ve done and become better pilots. I have no doubts when I say that in a realistic day-to-day scenario I would’ve probably made the same mistakes as these pilots without realizing how severe they were till I landed and actually took a look at the aircraft. I also love your perspective when you analyze these incidents or accidents and never turn them into a drama showcase, but instead you make of them a learning experience, without pointing fingers at people responsible for it, which is really hard but, after all, the goal here is to learn how to prevent those mistakes. It doesn’t matter if you fire the pilot responsible for an incident, another pilot could end up making the exact same mistakes if you don’t implement solutions that get to the root of the problem.
@nathaniel8925
@nathaniel8925 2 жыл бұрын
Focusing on the Captain recovering his seat for a moment. I am extremely uncomfortable with his decision to retake the controls at that point. The First Officer has the control and there is no way to know if the seat issue is going to happen again. The Captain should in my opinion have continued as pilot monitoring and should have scanned all flight instrument settings to confirm they were set as intended. I think he actually put the flight at risk by retaking control when he did.
@dl1027
@dl1027 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe. But it was the FO's incompetence that really put the flight at risk.
@ditzygypsy
@ditzygypsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought the story was going to end up being that the seat problem happened again, because that’s what I’d expect it to be likely to do. Can’t understand why he took the controls either.
@Drakkyzz
@Drakkyzz 2 жыл бұрын
v1 what did u want he do ?
@ranchalita
@ranchalita 2 жыл бұрын
@@dl1027 Although either pilot should have spotted it, I think it's the captain that has more of the blame. He should have re-checked the things he grabbed on the way down after he got up. If I got it correctly, FO only had control for about 5 seconds.
@endokrin7897
@endokrin7897 2 жыл бұрын
Ehhh.. you can be "extremely uncomfortable" with the Captain retaking controls all you like, but IMHO, that's not THE main issue. The biggest issue is that the pilots didn't follow the checklist for a tail strike. Had the strike been a bit more forceful, they could have had an explosive decompression and fallen to earth. They never should have climbed up to a flight level. It's a simple three-step checklist, but it boils down to this: If there is a tail strike, don't keep flying; land right away. Simple.
@Kevin_747
@Kevin_747 3 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation. I only flew the 737-800 around 1200 hours. Now I'm going to my basement to dig out my manuals. I do remember the QRH Tail strike checklist though. The only pilots that had a tail strike at my airline were the Chief Pilot with the 737 Fleet Manager in the right seat. Watch out for those management pilots that never fly. In the case of this crew, a four hour leg after they were told of all the damage shows the poor judgement of the capt. They had a good airport to return to and many suitable along that route. Easy for me to judge from my keyboard but I do have 29K hours of no accidents, incidents or violations.
@mk177
@mk177 3 жыл бұрын
this was simpler to disect imho: was everything really normal ? Their answer to that question should have been a sound no, which should lead them to make the decision to land at the nearest airport so I would agree with your infront of the keyboard judgment as I assume you are smarter/wiser than to lie to yourself in situations like these. Good day sire
@benjyfiles465
@benjyfiles465 Жыл бұрын
I found this channel a few weeks ago and have watched a number of the videos. They’re all fascinating and very well made, with absolutely superb storytelling and graphics. (These videos even got me through my colonoscopy prep day, which is saying a lot! :) I really appreciate Petter’s positive attitude and commitment to teaching. This video is my favorite so far. The pilots’ insistence on continuing the flight as if they hadn’t just flown through a brick wall demonstrates an almost comically absurd level of denial. It shows one of the cognitive distortions the human mind is capable of under severe stress. I’m just glad their wishful thinking and lack of common sense didn’t result in a disaster. Also - I love seeing your dogs in the videos! I have a chihuahua-poodle mix puppy named Sally Ride (after the astronaut). Sometimes she watches the videos with me and seems to notice the dogs. :)
@justplanecrazy5575
@justplanecrazy5575 3 жыл бұрын
How it kept flying normally with all that damage is amazing
@lastdance2099
@lastdance2099 3 жыл бұрын
Calling it a "tail strike" might be too charitable. It crashed into the localizer array and then the perimeter wall, and the pilots were told this but continued on anyways. I would call this extreme and disqualifying recklessness, and that's not even getting into the failure to reject the takeoff.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 3 жыл бұрын
That said plenty of aircraft accidents have occured due to atempts to reject at or near V1....
@jonio214
@jonio214 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomriley5790 That's what I was going to ask...was terminating the takeoff even an option??
@EdwinWiles
@EdwinWiles 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonio214 clearly stated in the video that the co could have aborted safely or that the pilot could have taken off normally if he had noticed the throttle and put it back where it belonged. For that matter, the co could have continued the takeoff normally if *he* had noticed the throttle. Honestly, if that happened to me as co, I would have aborted. I don't have the experience or any way to know what's happened to.the pilot, so an aborted takeoff is the safest move.
@jonio214
@jonio214 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdwinWiles Better safe than sorry, right?! Thanks for the explanation. I'm usually multi-tasking when I watch, so missed that detail.
@Lashb1ade
@Lashb1ade 3 жыл бұрын
It was practically a CFIT. It's pretty amazing they didn't crash.
@stellagetreuer5164
@stellagetreuer5164 11 ай бұрын
This is probably the most bizzarre incident I’ve ever heard of. Apart from the Captain being sucked out of the window, perhaps. Glad everyone was ok.
@vincenzo_turco
@vincenzo_turco 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t help smiling at the arms waving around in the virtual cockpit after seat failure😁😆
@BloodSteyn
@BloodSteyn 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, hats off to his editor.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 3 жыл бұрын
It´s the worst possible moment for a pilot to collapse with his seat.
@TheRealNatNat
@TheRealNatNat 3 жыл бұрын
you were not the only one ! :D
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 3 жыл бұрын
Touchdown!
@jennymulholland4319
@jennymulholland4319 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, although I was wondering why all the people featured had light coloured skin. Unless told otherwise, I would assume by default that the pilots were Indian and brown-skinned.
@Flyingzypher
@Flyingzypher 3 жыл бұрын
The holes in Swiss cheese were clearly big enough for this airline. How the pilots chose to continue the flight after repeated confirmations of terrain collisions was just as baffling as the management’s decision to call it back when they did.
@roichir7699
@roichir7699 3 жыл бұрын
Well, they did make themselves a few more holes.
@Flyingzypher
@Flyingzypher 3 жыл бұрын
@@roichir7699 the same can be said about the crew of PIA8303, they somehow convinced themselves otherwise irrespective of the situation they were in. However, the decision to call the flight back all way from across the Arabian Sea, is nothing short of criminal. The lives of the people onboard should take priority over everything else.
@hairyairey
@hairyairey 3 жыл бұрын
The Captain should have refused given they were now closer to their destination.
@Flyingzypher
@Flyingzypher 3 жыл бұрын
@@hairyairey, given the extreme vertical difference between a relatively new PIC and senior management on the other end, it would have been very hard decision indeed. The cultural factors would also come into play.
@hairyairey
@hairyairey 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flyingzypher Potentially damaged aircraft should land where nearest airport is! That's the issue. Doesn't matter about management. I would hope the investigation was critical of this decision.
@deeffourjay5632
@deeffourjay5632 Жыл бұрын
Best part is your puppy licking your hands as you gestured!
@LittleBallOfPurr
@LittleBallOfPurr 3 жыл бұрын
Me: I think I would be observant enough to pick up on all these errors Also me at 11:40 : Holy crap, where did that dog come from?!
@Butterphotography
@Butterphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Ye i noticed that aswell, i was looking for this comment lol
@davidross5593
@davidross5593 2 жыл бұрын
The dog is seen at @2:17
@brucemarsh4521
@brucemarsh4521 2 жыл бұрын
Best little copilot ever.
@samuvisser
@samuvisser 2 жыл бұрын
I missed the dog altogether 😂
@chrissybunnyify
@chrissybunnyify 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed it only now at 20mins lol
@keng7758
@keng7758 3 жыл бұрын
I really admire your delivery style (friendly, engaging, informative) that even extends to your paid promotions which are simply the best I’ve seen on KZbin. Never thought I’d want to see an advertisement on any channel but your personal involvement with your sponsor is excellent! 👍
@margaretmanzer2194
@margaretmanzer2194 2 жыл бұрын
he's the best!
@DebrisBall420
@DebrisBall420 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy this video popped up in my feed as I'll be flying on a 737-800 in a couple of weeks... Good to know they can fly thru a brick wall & still take off & fly like nothing even happened!!
@leoroy1449
@leoroy1449 3 жыл бұрын
As a student pilot I had a seat back partially fail after a touch and go at ~500 feet. Both the throttle and yoke were jerked back for several seconds.
@miroslavaklimova4597
@miroslavaklimova4597 3 жыл бұрын
I had simmilar experience but from my driving lessons. the pin uder my seat colapsed and the wheel and foot pedals were sudenly far far away from me. (By the way, in that age I was about 56kg) but my instruktor didn´t realised it and tasked me to turn right. I replied from behind "I wish I could." Even than he turn his head to my side and realised what happened. ohhh, wish you could seen that face. My the most funny memory from those classes.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch well recovered!
@randc47
@randc47 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes! That’s why I check and double check my seat every time. That had to be terrifying!
@leoroy1449
@leoroy1449 3 жыл бұрын
@@randc47 The Cessna 150 was trimmed aft for the previous power off landing so the yoke was pushing back. The throttle was pushed forward with the very tip of my finger. I trimmed for normal take-off and loosened the seat belt so I could reach the pedals. Big intervention from guardian angel.
@miroslavaklimova4597
@miroslavaklimova4597 3 жыл бұрын
@@randc47 for the first moment it was shock... you don´t expect thing like this could happened. but still I was safe, there was other guy, who were or should be able to solve situation. And I was teenager in that time (immortal as each one is) But in face of my instructor was mix of surprise, shock, fear... And my reaction was typicaly pubescent - I started to laugh loudly...
@leedrummond164
@leedrummond164 2 жыл бұрын
It's mentors face on the front of the video that gets me every time. The videos are extremely well narrated of course but just what a character he is.
@drefootybomar8792
@drefootybomar8792 Жыл бұрын
I know very little about aviation but I watch these videos because of the great delivery of the stories of these events from the Mentor Pilot. Very entertaining and informative.
@nicku1
@nicku1 3 жыл бұрын
I had few weeks ago a similiar near-accident in my VW golf :). I removed the driver's seat to change the seat cover and forgot afterwards to replace the securing pin, limiting the movement of the seat on it's rail. Having installed the seat, I drove on the street and in this very moment my seat slid completely back, at the same time - as the seat left the rail - also flipping back. I had no first officer on the right seat, luckily there was also no traffic so I managed to sit upright again by pulling myself up by grabbing the steering wheel. Remember to check your seat not only in airplanes! ;)
@diegestive4167
@diegestive4167 2 жыл бұрын
Only if you decide to mess with them and not put them back together correctly again … check .
@MoroccanAnwar
@MoroccanAnwar 2 жыл бұрын
Lol sometime I think of my golf as an aeroplane
@kallesirvio2695
@kallesirvio2695 2 жыл бұрын
Did you decide to go to your destination or divert back to the closest available tool box?
@nicku1
@nicku1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kallesirvio2695 I declared an emergency shouting "O ku&wa!" which is in my language a commonly used exclamation announcing a critical situation, as most Europeans know by now. Then I replaced the pin using appropriate tools, ie. my thumb and index finger.
@pullt
@pullt 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert, but wether you hit the retaining wall and break it or hit an antenna hard enough for it to hit the retaining wall and break it isn't much of a difference....
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 жыл бұрын
True that!
@1997inspire
@1997inspire 3 жыл бұрын
Those pilots were very irresponsible in not immediately returning to the airport.They gambled with the lives of everyone on board .
@rostislavsvoboda7013
@rostislavsvoboda7013 3 жыл бұрын
@@1997inspire > Those pilots were very irresponsible in not immediately returning to the airport.They gambled with the lives of everyone on board. Thank you for such a deeply insightful and qualified comment. Also, would you please give us an advice how to solve the global warming problem, how to unscrew the war in Afghanistan and how to fight Corona? We have time.
@mk177
@mk177 3 жыл бұрын
@@rostislavsvoboda7013 explain how being able to formulate a Yes/No (simple) statement in one's head leading to action: land at the closest airport would enable one to dismantle crises that have millions if not billions of contributors and action takers ? and yes we have time but probably not enough so be quick
@rubenvillanueva8635
@rubenvillanueva8635 3 жыл бұрын
@@1997inspire - It is cultural problem, that has been plaguing aviation in Asia. PIA, Air India, Asiana, to name a few, that save face mentality often ends in disasters.
@janhet001
@janhet001 2 жыл бұрын
This one was really interesting. Love your details and follow up with the investigation. You are detailed enough without simplifying things and not over doing it with complex details. Also, loved the puppy in this one. So Cute!!
@gulthepilot
@gulthepilot 3 жыл бұрын
Surely the landing gear team giving high fives all around.
@aking4766
@aking4766 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, so cute! Congrats on the newest addition to the Mentour Pup crew. Sofie is perfectly adorable and calm, just like her parents 🐶🐶🐶
@653j521
@653j521 3 жыл бұрын
A King Looks just like her dad. :)
@ephraimki7783
@ephraimki7783 2 жыл бұрын
2:15 what a sweet doggy. adorable
@museumjunkie9317
@museumjunkie9317 3 жыл бұрын
The dog's like, "I've heard all this before. He thinks he's a pilot or something".
@n2n8sda
@n2n8sda 3 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of other videos on youtube where you see a giant truck going down a highway with a car pinned to the front and the driver is oblivious, it's sometimes hard to imagine the weight and power of an aircraft would chew up that antenna and the wall and it wouldn't be as obvious as if you had done it in a car or say a Cessna 172... Amazed that plane made it in one piece, was expecting a twist in the tale where it broke up due to the longer diversion etc but glad it was a somewhat happy ending!
@vladimirpain3942
@vladimirpain3942 Жыл бұрын
This plane is true technological masterpiece. Amazing what it can withstand and still fyling just okay.
@TheaterAccount-fp5jx
@TheaterAccount-fp5jx Жыл бұрын
It had Quirks. Look up 737 max MCAS failures
@MaxLai_0104
@MaxLai_0104 Жыл бұрын
@@TheaterAccount-fp5jxit was just a designing flaw, and the 737-800 and 737 MAX8 are different planes (737-800 Next Generation / 737 MAX 8)
@fahadfaisal7855
@fahadfaisal7855 2 жыл бұрын
Good Analysis, Chief! I will write my observations later, but for now I must say that your First Officer in its Brown uniform, stole the show. Good touch there! Keep up the good work.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 2 жыл бұрын
Patxi! 💕💕
@KevinDC5
@KevinDC5 3 жыл бұрын
Videos like this is why I absolutely love your channel! Aircraft incidents don’t necessarily have to result in injury /fatality in order to serve as great moments for learning. It really serves to The ever evolving passion to be in a better pilot. -KW fellow (private) pilot,Texas
@holdmyhalo6752
@holdmyhalo6752 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know I started watching these videos, but I won’t watch any other aviation channel but yours now. Always thoroughly investigated and organized.
@Matticitt
@Matticitt 3 жыл бұрын
The fact there was so much damage after they hit the antennae and a BRICK WALL isn't surprising at all, but how did the plane just continue flying normally and the pilots didn't even notice is just incredible. What an incident.
@vedranb87
@vedranb87 3 жыл бұрын
LOL... Very CLASSy... :D On another note, I'm a software engineer and your tips about decision-making and responsibility sharing (CRM) have been very useful to me to work well in the team. I mean, if those principles work in crisis situations when every second can be a matter of life and death, they should work well in a 2 week sprint, too. Keep doing this. Your impact is wider than aviation industry.
@CieMaKat
@CieMaKat 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please elaborate on what exactly you implemented in your team? I'm really curious as I sometimes do have responsibility issues in my team.
@andrewtaylor940
@andrewtaylor940 3 жыл бұрын
I worked Fire/EMS for years before going into Corporate IT. It always amazed me how much less concerned regular people were about actual life and death emergency’s then they were about the most pointless and artificial corporate crisis. “No dude your e-mail being down for a 45 minute server maintenance, which we warned you about 10 days ago, is a minor inconvenience, not an actual emergency. Nobody’s going to die if you can’t sell life insurance for 15 minutes”.
@jerseyshoredroneservices225
@jerseyshoredroneservices225 3 жыл бұрын
If; Than; Else; Loop; I wasn't good enough at it to become a software developer but I still remember data structures class. Linked lists, stacks, cues, arrays. That was a tough class.
@vedranb87
@vedranb87 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewtaylor940 Yeah. I get you completely. Enrolled in my village's volunteer firefighting programme since age 7. (In croatia we have very strong youth programme, or at least used to). Stayed in the Department for 20 years until I moved out of the country.
@Craftymom1o19
@Craftymom1o19 3 жыл бұрын
SAME Vedran! It doesn't matter if bullets are flying, or if lives are on the line his tips in handling a crisis can be applied anywhere. At my new job it's very fast paced, focused on customer service, and quick turn-around (10 minutes or less depending on which service - one is less than 2 minutes). Normaly one person can handle each part but if there is a rush of customers we are taught to call for assistance to keep the turn around time low. Then there are our versions of a "crisis". Equipment down? there is a checklist document for some and back up equipment for most others. Customer Complaint? There is an acronym! Values and priorities? There is an acronym! Safety? There is a dumb as bricks phrase (I love it and I am obnoxious with it). Some of my co workers have gotten lax about all the procedures and you can bet that is causing conflicts, but the managers love that people (no I am not the only one) pushing the bar back up to where the standards are supposed to be. Care a bit about your job or career and you can find a way to not only apply his tips but also make work easier. If you are working on a team the CRM tips can be invaluable in managing anything. If you are a manager or leader all of these can be applied if youand bonus acronym: PRIORITIZE ​your goals/mission/tasks, INVEST in your staff, OPTIMISE your procedures and policies, STANDARDIZE your training, IMPROVE when/were possible, EVALUATE the workflow (after action reviews, systems evaluations, and conflict resolutions). I'm not sure that all makes sense but I had to write it down before I forget it again...
@TheLetsboogiedown
@TheLetsboogiedown 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the new format for this channel: the chapters, the animations, etc.... Really, really well done!
@StratMatt777
@StratMatt777 3 жыл бұрын
When denial and "get there-itis" is more important than erring on the side of caution for the benefit of the 160 souls on board...
@chrisseal1467
@chrisseal1467 3 жыл бұрын
Right. I wonder if the airline’s policy and culture was a factor in the decision not to return or divert.
@samhhaincat2703
@samhhaincat2703 3 жыл бұрын
And what is driving the "get-there-itis"? Capitalism.
@freedomfighter6838
@freedomfighter6838 3 жыл бұрын
@@samhhaincat2703 Is that supposed to be a brilliant statement lol - airplanes fly everywhere in the world - pilots have an enormous responsibility - blaming capitalism on murderous pilots is mind boggling absurd
@miscbits6399
@miscbits6399 3 жыл бұрын
A bit like the air india 747 which encountered headwinds and ignored low fuel warnings/opportunities to refuel on the way into new york only to declare a fuel emergency when they got there - hailed as "hero pilots saving the aircraft" instead of being raked over the coals for putting the flight into danger in the first place
@stephendenagy3396
@stephendenagy3396 3 жыл бұрын
More like human nature to reduce perceived harm. They knew they were in it deep by their comments toward the end of the flight. Natural reaction would be to at least accomplish the proper flight, lessening the issue of the tail strike. But that self-preservation placed all of their lives at risk. They would be in trouble for a tail strike at any airline. Continuing the flight compounded the error, and I suspect would work against them, whereas if they had just immediately returned they could have said that “stuff happens” and after the weirdness of the seat collapse they tried to make everything right.
@darlenemurphy5351
@darlenemurphy5351 3 жыл бұрын
The closest I've come to flying an airplane is cash register buttons. However I find I can actually mostly understand your explanations. Your very good at explaining everything.
@MarcioMarsiglia
@MarcioMarsiglia Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video... ALL the best from Brazil!!!
@samueljohnclark
@samueljohnclark 3 жыл бұрын
As a retired pilot, I fully recognise the no blame approach of flight safety investigations but you have to shake your head at the crews behaviour and later the company’s behaviour. Clearly both parties were more concerned about saving face then the welfare of the passengers on board. If I’d been told I hit a wall, I’d be requesting immediate vectors for the same runway. Basic basic airmanship! John
@rais1953
@rais1953 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine who has visited India many times insists that Air India should not be allowed to fly. In the whole subcontinent I think the only national airline I would fly with is Sri Lankan.
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 3 жыл бұрын
Pulling on the throttle handle when falling and not realizing it. Sounds more like a crash test dummy than a trained captain.
@quinquiry
@quinquiry 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the "saving face" stupid 3rd world mindset ...
@rais1953
@rais1953 3 жыл бұрын
@@quinquiry Not sure that's necessarily a third world feature. Just one example among many, I recall Boeing insisting all was well with the 737 MAX until they couldn't. Oh, and another, the UK authorities blaming all their Brexit woes on the vindictive EU treating them as it treats all non members just because they're a non member.
@IntegralKing
@IntegralKing 3 жыл бұрын
maybe they didn't want to dump fuel, cool the brakes, return everyone's money?
@Ryanboy2020
@Ryanboy2020 3 жыл бұрын
Petter, thanks for doing this one. I had never heard of this case before. The human performance factors in air accidents fascinate me. The way we react to stressful events comes down to training and who you are as an individual.
@ms-jl6dl
@ms-jl6dl 3 жыл бұрын
And that second part is very difficult to judge.
@claudiobertadeazevedo4669
@claudiobertadeazevedo4669 2 жыл бұрын
0-startle effect 1-Miracle 2-Your explanation was amazing, correct sequence, clear, concise 3-Generaly (not a rule) unionized pilots have different behaviors/discipline etc than non unionized pilots 4-Company culture may (not a rule) at times make the pilots be destination on time minded and "when in doubt don't delay the flight" 5-Seat design flaw 6-Night take off 7-PM should monitor the engines but the startle effect seems to have deviated his attention
@abdelchk3671
@abdelchk3671 3 жыл бұрын
They are so lucky!! The b737 is amazing because i was expecting him to tell me they lost controls or landing gear or oxygen! The plane was the hero this time
@commercialaviation
@commercialaviation 3 жыл бұрын
These are truly great videos. Really glad that you started making these types of videos and hope they will continue. They are informative and I personally learn a great deal from watching these videos especially about decision making. These videos makes you really think about the decisions you make as a pilot and that's why I love them. Thank you very much.
@sibinsukumaran5529
@sibinsukumaran5529 2 жыл бұрын
What a channel..?? What an execution, as an aviation professional, I really loved your channel, great work bro keep moving ahead.. With lots of love from India.
@ObnoxiousCamoToe
@ObnoxiousCamoToe 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mentour, just had my first flight ever yesterday. I flew on a 737-800 and had the window seat behind the right wing, on a 3 hour flight from New Orleans to Phoenix. It was nowhere near as bad as my mind had made it out to be, all thanks to your videos. I even looked out the window the whole flight. Keep up the great work!
@nandolopes9897
@nandolopes9897 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats!, a first flight is always something to celebrate.
@bosskiller2452
@bosskiller2452 2 жыл бұрын
@Hal Colombo you can get that he flew as a passenger right?😂
@ReikoTennosaar
@ReikoTennosaar 3 жыл бұрын
I love to watch these videos🙂
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope you will find this one interesting
@michaelschwartz9485
@michaelschwartz9485 2 жыл бұрын
It's awesome that the simulator you used has the option to show a pilot reaching for something to hold when their seat breaks! Those Sim creators thought of everything!! I've seen this video but I don't remember how it ends, I'm praying they all survived! I love your channel Mentour Pilot!!
@beanmasterz
@beanmasterz 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, it's just a couple of png put on screen. This is not a feature on any sim the hand animation was done later
@lildante8522
@lildante8522 Жыл бұрын
@@beanmasterz actually it is a simulator u bean.
@BlackCloud82
@BlackCloud82 3 жыл бұрын
Petter, I agree with a previous commenter, that you could see it in your face that you're an ambassador for the 737-800. Your expression went to obvious admiration for the NG. I've heard other pilots also talking about how good the NG is compared to earlier Boeings. As usual a very educational video. Thanks.
@iNimbleSloth
@iNimbleSloth 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and how you go through everything in such detail. Great to see no one was injured in this accident. It is amazing that the 737-800 ploughed through all that and still made it into the air.
@piemanfx
@piemanfx Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@PhoenixtheII
@PhoenixtheII 3 жыл бұрын
"You guys hit something!" Let's keep flying though.
@candice4855
@candice4855 3 жыл бұрын
IKR?
@MastrCake
@MastrCake 3 жыл бұрын
Several of my family members work for Boeing (hello from Seattle!) They all work on 737s. Aunt is a wing machinist, and my dad is a landing gear machinist. He probably had something to do with this very set! The 737 is such a resilient plane, I really love it :)
@Interdimensional27
@Interdimensional27 3 жыл бұрын
I somehow doubt smashing the main gear through a brick wall is on the QA plan though....
@MastrCake
@MastrCake 3 жыл бұрын
@@Interdimensional27 Oh I know, but it’s a good reminder that Boeing once designed planes to survive the utterly unexpected.
@blackhawks81H
@blackhawks81H 3 жыл бұрын
@@MastrCake Yeah I still trust most Boeing products.. The recent issues at that company aren't caused by the normal employees. The regular working class people who put the planes together are still solid, but the management. The corporate higher ups have apparently lost their minds like so much of the world these days and taken multiple actions in direct betrayal of their employees and customers, for a variety of ridiculous reasons. I also don't make a huge dramatic deal of the MCAS issues like some people do. Yeah Boeing did a bad thing there with the design and the FAA, but an MCAS failure alone should not and would not result in loss of aircraft/fatal with competent pilots. Just flip the stab trim cutout switches and LEAVE THEM THERE. Both of those MCAS related crashes would never have happened if the crew responded even remotely correctly or simply followed the checklists. Sorry, I know it's sad, and none of the passengers or their families deserved any of that. And I am the LAST person on earth to defend a big corporation.. But those crashes are on the flight crews.
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 3 жыл бұрын
Many of my relatives work on Airbus
@alfredwallace6968
@alfredwallace6968 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackhawks81H Are those the same flight crews that didn't even know that MACS existed?
@heinbierman9965
@heinbierman9965 Жыл бұрын
Bedankt
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your wonderful support!!
@dr.williamkallfelz8540
@dr.williamkallfelz8540 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent channel! I love the way you also get into the psychology issues, why stress can sometimes totally disrupt judgement. I love your doggie too! (Copilot?)
@kayroth2108
@kayroth2108 2 жыл бұрын
that's the dogs name yeah!!!
@dr.williamkallfelz8540
@dr.williamkallfelz8540 2 жыл бұрын
@@kayroth2108 Mentour Pilot's practices great great CRM (crew resource management), to human and canine alike! 👨‍✈️👩‍✈️🐕✈️
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 Y'know, I've gotta say... Good on the captain for so quickly handing the controls off. He recognized he could not fly the plane while reclined and handed off control without hesitation. Now if only the first officer had remembered to check the throttle...
@loupgarou95
@loupgarou95 2 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting this level of professionalism and quality from the thumbnail. What a pleasent surprise.
@Rog107
@Rog107 3 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video, well presented with excellent explanations, plus of course recording it with your dog on your lap gets extra bonus points from me. :)
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
"Can you come up with what happened?" Yeah you struck the wall and the antennae, when you took off low like you are well aware you did. Incredible. They came within a few feet elevation of disaster. Another outstanding video!
@Aircraft1606.
@Aircraft1606. Жыл бұрын
0:31 Chapter 1: Flight Overview 1:13 Chapter 2: First Sector 1:46 Chapter 3: Takeoff Performance 2:36 Chapter 4: Takeoff Procedure 3:35 Chapter 5: AutoThrottle 4:50 Chapter 6: Takeoff 7:15 Chapter 7: Something Isn't Right 8:11 Chapter 8: Control Tower Is Concerned 9:42 Chapter 9: Flight 611 Is Informed 11:59 Chapter 10:What Has Actually Happened? 14:08 Chapter 11: Flight Crew Gets Nervous 15:59 Chapter 12: Destination: Mumbai 18:27 Chapter 13: Investigations Underway 19:41 Chapter 14: The Recliner 21:29 Final Chapter:The Crew 22:53 Outro The Fact That There Is a Flight 611 involved in this incident although used by a different Airline it still gives me the chills because of the Uberlingen Mid-air collision with DHL Flight 611 and Flight 2937 in 2002
@susanne5803
@susanne5803 3 жыл бұрын
At least one dog was back today! Thank you very much for these calm and factual explanations!
@RobSchofield
@RobSchofield 3 жыл бұрын
Now that was fascinating - oddly, based on watching your videos, my instant reaction was "turn back, land" as I would have been worried about depressurisation while climbing (think of the JAL 747 rear bulkhead failure). So you have taught me something! Very good episode, thanks.
@mekan0001
@mekan0001 2 жыл бұрын
apparently your instant reaction was more correct than that of 2 trained pilots.
@czdaniel1
@czdaniel1 2 жыл бұрын
Same, no way I would trust going above 10,000 ft after that take-off. While watching the video I'm crying, _"No!! Don't do it! You're gonna get stupid and crash into a Greek mountain!!"_
@NajaAn
@NajaAn 2 жыл бұрын
Okay been binging your videos for the past few weeks and they are so informative but also very chill and easy to understand even for someone that doesn’t know how to fly a plane, even though I would love to learn. I just have to say though your dogs are distracting in a good way they are so cute I especially love how one of them has a habit of sitting at the top of your sofa on a pillow just too cute. Keep up the amazing videos and give your doggies a treat from me!
@mystifiedoni377
@mystifiedoni377 2 жыл бұрын
A vtuber that watches aviation videos. Neat!
@NajaAn
@NajaAn 2 жыл бұрын
@@mystifiedoni377 yeah it's one of my autistic obsessions that and murder mystery but I don't talk about it on streams too much as it's kind of morbid for some people. 😅
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 3 жыл бұрын
- “We hit an antenna and a brick wall” - “seems fine, let’s keep going”…… Idk how they came to this logic
@tapalmer99
@tapalmer99 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the photos it's not just a brick wall it's a concrete reinforced brick wall
@dantc2403
@dantc2403 3 жыл бұрын
Someone forgot about Japan Airlines 123 or China Airlines 611. Everything's fine after a tail strike until it goes pop.
@ED-es2qv
@ED-es2qv 3 жыл бұрын
Because the oil pressure and coolant temperature was normal. You know, like after you hit something in the road like tire spikes, but the speedometer still works so you know you can just floor it and go about your day.
@vipvip-tf9rw
@vipvip-tf9rw 2 жыл бұрын
@@ED-es2qv some cars have tire pressure sensors
@koriko88
@koriko88 2 жыл бұрын
@@ED-es2qv Seriously, a lot of people probably do that. Maybe I'm a little more safety-conscious than most, but if I hit anything that seems hard (metal, wood, stray chunk of concrete, etc) I actually stop at the earliest opportunity and do a quick examination...I'm wanting to make sure I don't have massive gaping sidewall damage with cords showing, a busted condenser, oil leaking out from a broken oil pan, etc. Any of those could be a small or slow leak which wouldn't show up immediately, but could be catastrophic when it eventually goes. It's *insane* to me to think that someone flying a 737 full of passengers wouldn't exhibit even a fraction of the care that a regular person might about their car, particularly when they knew without a doubt that they hit something massive.
@123fockewolf
@123fockewolf 3 жыл бұрын
Haha the face when you talked about how rugged the 737 is😂👍🏼Just like a freaking B-17😂 Great video!
@davearbogast2882
@davearbogast2882 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing your lovely dog into this session.
@samiyarossini
@samiyarossini 3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to see your fuzzy co-hosts! I am so amazed at how this went basically fine, but could have gone so much worse.
@dan89592
@dan89592 3 жыл бұрын
What an incredible story. Thank you so much for sharing this. I love this series of videos you have been making.
@NeerajSharma0820
@NeerajSharma0820 Жыл бұрын
Captain you are very informative and your depth to detail is overwhelming, I’m addicted to your channel and thank you for all the wonderful videos. Keep up the good work.
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