Airplane-Door OPENS Mid-flight! How was this possible?!

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@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
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@ondrejdobrota7344
@ondrejdobrota7344 Жыл бұрын
Passengers should be thankful for hairdryer for free.
@ShadowKnight785
@ShadowKnight785 Жыл бұрын
This video was incredibly entertaining and informative. Thanks for helping me to overcome my fear of flying
@mballer
@mballer Жыл бұрын
Should they now over pressurize the cabin for landing so this can't happen again?
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 Жыл бұрын
@@mballer AFAIK they slightly pressurize the cabin, bringing the cabin altitude slightly below the actual landing altitude.
@Rachel_M_
@Rachel_M_ Жыл бұрын
When I heard this story i thought "I hope Petter covers this" Thanks for making wishes come true ☺ ♥
@BeTeK11
@BeTeK11 Жыл бұрын
15:00 “A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.” - Douglas Adams
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Correct
@13699111
@13699111 Жыл бұрын
Sadly so true
@bertjesklotepino
@bertjesklotepino Жыл бұрын
cant call them complete fools if they beat "the system". I would argue that those who designed the system are the fools in this case for thinking they could design a foolproof system. Had to edit this because people dont read any further. And so: This was a joke...... I said that a few comments down the line already. Hopefully people will now read it and stop responding. Because to be honest, it makes you look like fools to me to be honest, responding to something which basically should have been clear enough not to be taken serious. But i guess that is the world we live in these days.
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd Жыл бұрын
Like people who see a sign that says "DANGER Do Not Enter" but read it as "PERFECTLY SAFE Come On In"
@anteshell
@anteshell Жыл бұрын
@@bertjesklotepino Yes they can. Foolishness is not the same as being mentally incapable or having less than stellar intelligence. A fool is someone making stupid things, and it is a fact of life that _everyone_ makes stupid things at some point rendering themselves a fool. Thus, your argument is invalid.
@MrBanzoid
@MrBanzoid Жыл бұрын
When engineers design a foolproof system, the universe conspires to design a better fool.
@marybarry2230
@marybarry2230 Жыл бұрын
Wow, well said!!
@dannydaw59
@dannydaw59 Жыл бұрын
I have a t-shirt that says that.
@zodo2476
@zodo2476 Жыл бұрын
Engineers know that given enough time and people they will try everything. So many laymen were concerned, so many pilots covering this up for safety. But the single fact that opening a front door could've resulted in a slide going into the engine, possibly letting any fool to bring down a plane with zero tools. That is not fool proof, that's engineering so fool accepting, or malice accepting, that it should never be publicly accessible. Airliner doors should not be less secure than the child lock on an old honda.
@lovealways729
@lovealways729 Жыл бұрын
lol
@jimk8520
@jimk8520 Жыл бұрын
Yes, warning labels perform the same function.
@martydas6233
@martydas6233 Жыл бұрын
This Mentour Episode was a complete breath of fresh air.
@fancyyahoo
@fancyyahoo Жыл бұрын
Take my like and get the heck out!
@MrSaemichlaus
@MrSaemichlaus Жыл бұрын
Yes it was a blast!
@andersmalmgren6528
@andersmalmgren6528 Жыл бұрын
And some fuel fumes
@msg63bretired82
@msg63bretired82 Жыл бұрын
😂
@Justicewarrior795
@Justicewarrior795 Жыл бұрын
Breathtaking
@sjswitzer1
@sjswitzer1 Жыл бұрын
Difficult design problem here: to design a door that can ONLY open in an emergency but also will open reliably in EVERY emergency. Add to that that emergencies are by their very nature hard to anticipate and catalogue. I regard the design a success: nobody was seriously injured. I suspect the guy succumbed to intrusive thoughts and it’s amazing it hasn’t happened before.
@ashleymalamute
@ashleymalamute Жыл бұрын
What you are suggesting is a door that is also a qualified psychiatrist.
@stellarwind1946
@stellarwind1946 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I work on fire alarms and can assure you that locking a fire exit from the inside of a commercial building will get you into serious legal trouble if it prevents people from exiting during an emergency.
@sage5296
@sage5296 Жыл бұрын
I think as he mentioned tho, on many types of planes the seats next to the exits are occupied by flight attendants, so there’s not as many chances as there otherwise would be for a regular passenger to attempt to open the exit
@cinnamonstck5664
@cinnamonstck5664 Жыл бұрын
This kind of reminds me of the problem with bear proof trash cans. It's hard to design a bear proof trash can because the overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans is way too big.
@Julia-nl3gq
@Julia-nl3gq Жыл бұрын
Yes, I understand that it's impossible to create a door that will work in all situations, and it doesn't make me nervous to fly - like it was pointed out to us, it's super-crazy-rare. I bet you have a better chance of, saying, being in a car accident, and nobody thinks anything of getting into their cars every day. A perfect system is impossible, I imagine, so I appreciate that they've done the best they can. We expect them to do their best, and they did; we can't expect more. As for the idea of intrusive thoughts, well, I don't mean to be rude, but, as a person who has Anxiety Disorders, I'd just like to point out that it really would be best to not guess at if he had a mental illness, and, if he did, what it was - so very many mental health issues (if that was the cause) could have caused it, there's zero reason to jump to the conlusion of intrusive thoughts. Well, actually, now that I re-think that, I suppose there's no harm in pondering weather he suffered from a mental illness. But I do think that we should not guess at which one - intrusive thoughts are possible, but so are hundreds of other things.
@AnthonyHigham6414001080
@AnthonyHigham6414001080 Жыл бұрын
When ever I board an aircraft I reassure myself with the knowledge that the flight crew want to live just as much as I do.
@TheTransporter007
@TheTransporter007 Жыл бұрын
The germanwings Alps crash proved that is definitely not the case
@NiekEdeling
@NiekEdeling Жыл бұрын
@@TheTransporter007 Before reading your reaction, I thought the same! There are more examples of that "not being the case" :-(
@pavel9652
@pavel9652 Жыл бұрын
Even without knowing about the crash in Alps, how he would had knowledge? Did he talk to the pilots? All he can have is an assumption and airline track record.
@BryanTorok
@BryanTorok Жыл бұрын
@@pavel9652 Of course, one can't know anything for sure. But, the relatively low incidence of suicide in our society leans heavily that way. Then, consider that most people planning suicide may look to also take with them those they blame for their situation, most do not want to hurt other noninvolved people. Lastly, consider that most commercial airliners have a flight crew of 2 or 3 people, that lessens the chances of one pilot taking control. I am far more worried about incompetence, pilot error, and diversity hires.
@pavel9652
@pavel9652 Жыл бұрын
@@BryanTorok True, but he said he reassure himself with knowledge, which he doesn't have ;)
@StevePemberton2
@StevePemberton2 Жыл бұрын
A couple of years ago a woman opened an overwing exit door after the plane had landed and arrived at the gate. Apparently she felt that it was too hot inside the plane, so she stepped out onto the wing to cool off while waiting for the line to start moving. A flight attendant convinced her to come back in. She was not prosecuted but she is now on the no-fly list.
@StevenFuller55
@StevenFuller55 Жыл бұрын
What a goof. Petter and Mentour Wife talked about this event once.
@sashabenoit1518
@sashabenoit1518 Жыл бұрын
I remember that lady... ugh some people.. 🤦‍♀️
@Lashb1ade
@Lashb1ade Жыл бұрын
@@sashabenoit1518 Was that not the case where they had been delayed, leading to hundreds of passengers being crammed into a metal box for 2 hours with no AC in >30C weather? Someone else had already fucked up.
@dziubo1
@dziubo1 Жыл бұрын
Smart gal! That would definitely reduce temrerature inside! I bet shes the one that fucddles iwth the thermostate at office, just to piss off everybody xD
@memofromessex
@memofromessex Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of someone pulling the emergency stop button at a train stop as the train was going past. Apparently she wanted to get off closer to her home.
@TheFAndison
@TheFAndison Жыл бұрын
As a frequent flyer who likes the window seat, it has always been a privilege to be given the responsibility to look after the emergency exit. I actually felt important like part of the team 😂 Now I gotta fight idiots too, on top of my high ranking door position?? 😭
@camlo1134
@camlo1134 Жыл бұрын
At that point apply to be an official emergency door watcher lol Yes people it's a joke
@dusanveverka1249
@dusanveverka1249 Жыл бұрын
HODOR
@AfricanLionBat
@AfricanLionBat Жыл бұрын
​@@camlo1134are you serious? That's not a real thing. Yes, it's an joke
@wooloo2652
@wooloo2652 Жыл бұрын
I knew it was because of the low altitude that the door had no trouble opening, but what you said about how the slide could have possibly been sucked into the engines really is chilling... It could have gone so badly, and we're so lucky it didn't. Thanks again for a great video!
@brianmilo7662
@brianmilo7662 Жыл бұрын
Bro. Spoiler
@Jwellsuhhuh
@Jwellsuhhuh Жыл бұрын
It should be so that the slide won’t work if the engine is running
@doctortimm3245
@doctortimm3245 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jwellsuhhuhthere should be an interlock on the emergency doors to keep it locked while the plane is flying. What good would it do to open the emergency door while they are airborne, not like they have parachutes onboard. Im not saying its an easy fix, but an actuator set with a fail open solenoid comes to mind. In cases where the the plane is still in the air and the plane still has electricity, solenoid will be engaged, but once its on the ground and power is cut (or lost), solenoid retracts
@brianmilo7662
@brianmilo7662 Жыл бұрын
@@Julia-nl3gq can’t watch the video before I read the comments. Blasphemy
@tylisirn
@tylisirn Жыл бұрын
@@Jwellsuhhuh There have been incidents where damaged control lines to the engines have caused a runaway engine that can't be shut down. It would suck if you couldn't evacuate the plane on the ground because of something like that. Potentially while the plane is on fire.
@AnyoneCanSee
@AnyoneCanSee Жыл бұрын
The real story is that the man was seated next to the door and said to the guy next to him, "I watch this great KZbin channel called 'Mentor Pilot' and he explained that it is completely impossible to open these doors in flight...see, no matter how hard I pull...OH MY GOD! HE LIED! HE LIED TO US ALL!"
@lonewolf5238
@lonewolf5238 Жыл бұрын
I can see Rowan Atkinson playing that role 😅
@sarowie
@sarowie Жыл бұрын
there was a pilot convinced that he could not retract the landing gear while on the ground, there must be some interlock. His copilot did not believe him. The copilot was right.
@Nefville
@Nefville Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@gaiaiulia
@gaiaiulia Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@helloworld6209
@helloworld6209 Жыл бұрын
underrated comment!
@srinitaaigaura
@srinitaaigaura Жыл бұрын
Intelligence has limits. Stupidity has none. 😂
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Жыл бұрын
Reminds of the incident where an older Chinese woman was observed throwing coins into a jet's engine for 'good-luck'!
@Joker44131
@Joker44131 Жыл бұрын
Stupidity like not using metric system, you mean, right?
@ferryfernandus1423
@ferryfernandus1423 Жыл бұрын
@@Joker44131 stupidity in general, not just metric system
@thunberbolttwo3953
@thunberbolttwo3953 Жыл бұрын
@@Joker44131 No.
@jdaveca
@jdaveca Жыл бұрын
As a private pilot, I know I’ll never need to deal with most of these type situations, however these videos are always very informative and educational regardless. I really do appreciate the time and effort that you put into these.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you liked it, that’s why we work as hard as we do.
@SpottinPlanesForLife
@SpottinPlanesForLife Жыл бұрын
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@jeffrey.a.hanson
@jeffrey.a.hanson Жыл бұрын
Never know when you might want some fresh air... and forget you're the one flying. 🤷‍♂
@XB10001
@XB10001 Жыл бұрын
​@@jeffrey.a.hanson if he forgets he's the one flying, he will likely face MUCH bigger problems.
@wernerretief4569
@wernerretief4569 Жыл бұрын
Did it ever happen that some schizo entered the cockpit?
@ConstantlyDamaged
@ConstantlyDamaged Жыл бұрын
I guess the big issue here is any lockout added would need to be insanely overengineered and redundant because the problem of someone opening a door when they shouldn't is far less of an issue than someone needing to open a door and it remaining locked.
@David-ud9ju
@David-ud9ju Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely shocked that there's no lock on the door. Presumably engineers have known for decades that it is possible to open the doors of the plane at anything below 1000ft but have just kept quiet about that particular extraordinarily dangerous problem. As you say, there would need to be redundancies, but I always assumed there was a button that the pilots switched to unlock the doors or the locking mechanism went on altitude or, as mentioned in the video, engine spooling. All it would take is an emergency button like a fire alarm in the cockpit and then in the cabin away from the door always by a flight attendant.
@MJ_868
@MJ_868 Жыл бұрын
​@David in an emergency where pilots lose control of the electronics in the cabin that's a potential hazard
@anteeko
@anteeko Жыл бұрын
already fitted on 737NG overwing door.. and it is an headache to test
@sorbabaric1
@sorbabaric1 Жыл бұрын
@@David-ud9ju What happens if the pilot are incapacitated? Or the electronics has failed, or the circuit interrupted.
@megachonk9440
@megachonk9440 Жыл бұрын
@@David-ud9ju The risk of needing to open an emergency exit quickly and not being able to because of a failed redundant locking mechanism is higher than the risk of some bozo opening a plug door at low altitude. This popular aircraft model has been in service around the world for 29 years and this has happened exactly one time that we know of with only minor injuries and minor damage to the aircraft. It's pretty rare that somebody is able to even attempt to open a door unnoticed by fellow passengers.
@ironcito1101
@ironcito1101 Жыл бұрын
Security and safety are often at odds with each other. Security measures like locks, fences, barred windows, etc, are safety hazards, and safety measures like emergency doors are security weaknesses. In this case, security would want to make the emergency doors more difficult to open, which would be a disaster for safety. It was an isolated, relatively minor incident, so they'll probably leave things as they are.
@dannydaw59
@dannydaw59 Жыл бұрын
Boeing exit doors over the wings automatically lock when the planes wheels are off the ground. The same thing could be used on the A321 doors.
@ironcito1101
@ironcito1101 Жыл бұрын
@@dannydaw59 How does that work if the landing gear is ripped off during a crash landing, or when belly landing or ditching, or if the aircraft tumbles and ends up upside down, etc? How do they make sure that the mechanism which detects whether the wheels are on the ground doesn't malfunction? If Boeing implemented it, I'm sure they thought of all that. I'd actually like to know.
@johngrowcott4794
@johngrowcott4794 Жыл бұрын
@@ironcito1101 Importantly only some of the doors on a Boeing lock that way I think, so if the locks won't open people can still use the other doors.
@jacobcastro1885
@jacobcastro1885 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Free Market vs Controlled Economy debate...
@melz6625
@melz6625 Жыл бұрын
Acute observation and great explanation. My mind was a little blown here ngl
@lauragrivainisthorne8242
@lauragrivainisthorne8242 Жыл бұрын
Each of Mentour Pilot's videos is like attending a university masterclass, I learn so much and the explanations are so thorough and clear. Thank you Petter, you are a credit to your industry.
@IroAppe
@IroAppe Жыл бұрын
I agree. The armed doors, easy and quick to open in an emergency, probably saved way more lives, compared to the 3 minutes of discomfort we have seen here one time only in history.
@themobseat
@themobseat Жыл бұрын
But once people know this is possible, imagine what a terrorist could do with that knowledge.
@PerfidiousPuffin
@PerfidiousPuffin Жыл бұрын
@@themobseat What could they do? Opening one door at low altitude doesn't affect the aircraft at all, as we've just seen here. They could jump out I guess. No one will be sorry to see them do so.
@TheMotz55
@TheMotz55 Жыл бұрын
In the early 90's we were on a 10 hour flight from Dusseldorf to Orlando. My son, about 3 at the time, was restless, got up from his seat and tried to open the door. The flight attendant saw him, smiled and asked if he wanted to see the pilot instead. He was gone for about a half hour and I had no idea what went on in the cockpit. The flight attendant escorted him back to his seat as he carried airline toys, coloring books and flight pins. Wow, things are different now.
@kylobear7991
@kylobear7991 Жыл бұрын
I got one of those wings the first time I flew as a passenger to Rome Italy
@tosspot1305
@tosspot1305 9 ай бұрын
A selfish few have ruined it for everyone
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, im 43, and I remember when I was a little kid, I was really into anything mechanical or electronic, and my father took me up to the cockpit, and they showed me around, and I think maybe even let me sit in one of the seats briefly, though I could be confabulating that lol. But I do remember getting some of those toys and stuff. This would have been in the mid-late 80s. I remember being astounded by how many buttons and screens and stuff there were, lol. A lot changed after 9/11.
@jamesm3471
@jamesm3471 Жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the sheer power of human stupidity.
@missaisohee
@missaisohee Жыл бұрын
exactly. smh
@Milesco
@Milesco Жыл бұрын
Or insanity.
@Metoobie
@Metoobie Жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly. I work for an airline and sometimes am completely dumbstruck by people. I regularly have to try to talk rationally to passengers who are hostile. They want a better seat that they didn't pay for or drinks before takeoff or a bag that doesn't fit on board and they look at me like I'm trying to ruin their vacation. I look at them and wonder if there is going to be an in flight emergency. And yes.. I do think about something that happened over 20 years ago.
@adriannicol8529
@adriannicol8529 Жыл бұрын
Or, as my first boss once told me: "you can make things foolproof, what you can't do is make things Bl***dy fool proof"
@luisurbina5115
@luisurbina5115 Жыл бұрын
That's why washing machines and dryers now have a warning about putting children inside
@bhagyakolitha2844
@bhagyakolitha2844 Жыл бұрын
I really love Mentour’s very rational, unbiased explanations with a lot of technical information described in a very simple way.
@techbio
@techbio Жыл бұрын
As an armchair aviation enthusiast who has never pursued his dream of flight for one reason and another, but still holds an intense interest in aviation, I really appreciate the detail you go into explaining things.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 Жыл бұрын
This is a big issue going forward. On the one hand, they need the doors more secure. On the other hand, the doors are meant to be open upon touchdown, in the event of an emergency. All it’d take is one emergency landing with a cabin fire, the doors not opening due to a new “safety” mechanism, and a lot of lives will be lost.
@lucas29476
@lucas29476 Жыл бұрын
@@jensnobel5843you seem very knowledgeable on this. Thanks :) Do you have recommendations on videos / articles to look this up if I'm interested?
@sleepysera
@sleepysera Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it a big issue. Isn't this ultimately something that can very easily be solved by just not selling the seats directly next to the emergency exit doors to passengers? There's no need to keep an eye on them during cruise altitude since the pressure difference makes it impossible to open them, and during take-off/landing, they are out of reach of anyone not directly seated next to them. Anyone unbuckling and getting up to mess with the door during that phase would attract immediate attention by the cabin crew, which could intervene. I doubt this is gonna have any influence on how the doors are made to work and just affect procedure instead.
@shanestachwick4784
@shanestachwick4784 Жыл бұрын
This already happened in 1980 with the loss of Saudia Flight 163. The cabin remained pressurized after a landing with an in-flight fire and all 301 people onboard died from smoke inhalation.
@lukemauerman3734
@lukemauerman3734 Жыл бұрын
After a BA smoke in the cabin incident back in the 1990s, it became a published procedue that we could open the 747 Door 5 Right below 1,000 to vent smoke. We were even taught to combine seatbelt extensions to hold the door handle in the cracked open position by a few inches. Never saw it happen in real life!
@Canleaf08
@Canleaf08 Жыл бұрын
This is what they tried on the South African Airways 747-200M "Helderberg", which crashed into the Indian Ocean, to open up the door for a little bit to lighten up smoke. Sadly, it did not work.
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 Жыл бұрын
Surely aircraft have better ventilation systems than to "open the door by 5 inches". Doesn't stop the problem at 20,000ft. Was the incident caused by a problem with the plane, or simply by passengers smoking? Smoking (cigarettes) on BA wasn't fully banned until 1998.
@AstoundingAmelia
@AstoundingAmelia Жыл бұрын
​@@andrewmurray1550 it more for fire smoke
@piedpiper1172
@piedpiper1172 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewmurray1550 It’s pretty hard to have a better vent than a large opening. Also: planes fill with smoke during a fire very quickly. That’s why there is the design requirement for everyone to get out in 90-120 seconds. You can find content on a pretty devastating incident where a plane in England burned on the tarmac with extremely high casualties because people couldn’t get out in time.
@oldbatwit5102
@oldbatwit5102 Жыл бұрын
@@Canleaf08 That's an interesting idea. It doesn't appear in the inquiries so I am going to assume that someone, possibly you, just made it up.
@dann5480
@dann5480 Жыл бұрын
The wait for Mentour videos is always worth it. Great job again Petter. Love your work.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was hoping to hear! 💕💕
@ChinTuk2
@ChinTuk2 Жыл бұрын
​@@MentourPilot .... 2 Request :- {1} Can You Take Up AirCraft Accidents or Aversion of Mishaps due to H¡jacking or Teror¡st Situation if possible. !! {2} The General Management Lesson form your experience or the practice from Pilot CRM Training . !! 1 Complain, At times your Discourse is too Technical that Unable to UnderStand ? By the way, WhenEver dirve my car, I behaved as if I'm flying an Aeroplane .... WalkAround before driving , do a CheckList on my DashDoard Cluster, CountDown while Descending from a FlyOver & Report to my Wife for any Errors due to My Driving. Your Presentation is Quite Interesting & have been following over a year. Keep up the good work, do well in life & our love to your 2 pet's. Abhijit from India.
@robertpearce8394
@robertpearce8394 Жыл бұрын
Your mate 74 Gear pointed out that in the movies in case of emergency many sheets of paper are released into the passanger cabins.
@elainelouve
@elainelouve Жыл бұрын
True xD
@kbaylor123
@kbaylor123 Жыл бұрын
😂 I also love that the title of his video was something like “I lied to you”
@hcc6757
@hcc6757 Жыл бұрын
This explanation is off the scale, Petter. The graphics are incredible, and your style of presentation is simply the best. Been a huge fan of this YT channel for a while. Keep doing the good work.
@Roger-bj2zs
@Roger-bj2zs Жыл бұрын
Anyone that understands air pressure and how it increases as the plane is higher would know the answers to the questions asked. Great job explaining and I love watching your videos! God bless and safe travels
@constructionwatcher5381
@constructionwatcher5381 Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons for the confusion over why the doors could open is that the media, and in fact the title of this video, continue to say the door was opened "mid-flight." As you so well explained, it could happen only because it was not "mid-flight" but at very low altitude.
@kbaylor123
@kbaylor123 Жыл бұрын
“End-flight” 😝
@bearcubdaycare
@bearcubdaycare Жыл бұрын
It didn't happen on the ground. Quite dangerous when it did happen, for reasons mentioned in the video. It happened in flight at still high speeds and high enough above the ground to be fatal for anyone who ended up outside the craft, and risks to the control surfaces and, in different circumstances, to the engines. Having flown a few types of gliders, problems close to the ground can be more concerning than higher. I wouldn't minimize it.
@constructionwatcher5381
@constructionwatcher5381 Жыл бұрын
@@bearcubdaycare I was talking about the public's understanding, not the danger. We've been told a door cannot be opened mid-flight, and that's true, as explained -- it wasn't.
@philippal8666
@philippal8666 Жыл бұрын
90% flight, late flight 😂
@Strype13
@Strype13 Жыл бұрын
Semantics. To many, I'm sure the term "mid-flight" is synonymous with "in-flight." And the plane was most certainly still "in-flight."
@Rehbock137
@Rehbock137 Жыл бұрын
It took 30 years to happen but now I fear it will be imitated.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
THAT could be a problem and if it is, the design will have to change.
@hesspet
@hesspet Жыл бұрын
Are there so many people outside who like to spend years in jail? I think not. The good this is, it is simple to identify and arrest such non brained person.
@DK.Adventures
@DK.Adventures Жыл бұрын
​@@hesspet don't underestimate the people willing to throw their lives away for a spec of clout
@thijsdaenen4980
@thijsdaenen4980 Жыл бұрын
@@hesspet It's also very dangerous for the plane. As a engineer you have to idiotproof your designes and this is a fault in that principle.
@mballer
@mballer Жыл бұрын
​@@hesspet People jump from bridges everyday.
@CarolLynnWilliams
@CarolLynnWilliams Жыл бұрын
As a now-disabled senior, I won't be flying anywhere cuz I don't consider myself a safe passenger for emergency evacuations. But with an aerospace background on DC8s & 9s from the 60s/70s, I appreciate your detailed explanations !!!
@thejailbreaker8675
@thejailbreaker8675 Жыл бұрын
Even as an Airbus Pilot, I am quite sure that the DC9's (At least the -80s) had the door system where it would fold over itself and the inside of the door would be showing out when it was opened (like a hinged door). I think it would be much harder for it to actually open in that case. What Petter got slightly wrong was that on larger Boeing aircraft (B787/777), the door functions like on the Airbus, sliding outwards instead.
@CarolLynnWilliams
@CarolLynnWilliams Жыл бұрын
@@thejailbreaker8675 I don't remember. As the designer/analyst for the computerized FAA-required provisioning system, I knew the parts explosion and the maintenance schedule like the back of my hand. Now, knowledge and memory fails...
@MartinFeder-z1d
@MartinFeder-z1d Жыл бұрын
What about the squat switch, which is used in aircraft to detect weight on the landing gear so that certain systems can ONLY be operated when the aircraft is physically ON THE GROUND ??
@HandyManDM
@HandyManDM 10 ай бұрын
I look forward to a possible video about how the "extra" emergency exits doors on a 737 Max-9 work when it is fitted with an actual door (rather than the plug that failed on the alaska air flight). I'm curious about how the plug function and opening functions along with where the emergency slide if fitted. Thanks for all the great videos and very professionally presented information!!
@screwthecabal6453
@screwthecabal6453 Жыл бұрын
I love it how you fully E explain in intricate detail so that your story is fully understandable. 👍
@Umi-nb7ie
@Umi-nb7ie Жыл бұрын
The production quality of this episode is crazy!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m so glad you thought so
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Our compliments to those who handle your graphics.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
@@cod-the-creator Really?! Why do you say that? I mean, obviously this is a story about an incident that has just happened. But I was personally quite pleased with how it came out. I would love to hear what’s you thought was so wrong with it?
@dominikstachurski8105
@dominikstachurski8105 Жыл бұрын
Coming from a cabin attendant on the type - great video with a lot of technical detail. I'm surprised the door managed to open, as the power assist on the emer exits is weak, or at least weaker than the one on main exits. I wonder how they'll deal with this in Asiana, where I fly we always need to chose and brief ABPs for unassisted exits in the cabin. Also I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't happened sooner, children or even adults get stupid ideas about those doors sometimes, hell we even had one lady confuse main door for the lavatory once. Then again it mostly happens higher up when seatbelt sign is off and pressure differential is higher. Either way great vid, hope more people will see it
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dominik, I’m glad someone with your background found it informative and correct.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 Жыл бұрын
I think that's the point - for most of the flight it can't happen, it's only possilbe in a very small window.
@dominikstachurski8105
@dominikstachurski8105 Жыл бұрын
@@tomriley5790 yeah fair point, though I'd day it's because people are busy looking outside the window during the landing/takeoff, not just because it's short period. If people are bored they get stupid ideas, the longer the flights the more annoying the passengers get.
@theultramage
@theultramage Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the flight being a short daytime flight was a contributing factor. If the passenger were instead stuck on a 6 hour night flight, he would have had time to adjust to the monotony, get numb from sitting in the seat for so long, and be tired and sleepy from the long day of travel.
@dominikstachurski8105
@dominikstachurski8105 Жыл бұрын
@@theultramage it could be the case too, everyone is different afterall though from my experience the longer the flight the more problematic the passengers get. Nobody likes being stuck in a small, crowded metal tube for long
@JeremyRichard82
@JeremyRichard82 Жыл бұрын
Paratroopers (Jumpmasters & Air Force) open these "kinds" of doors every day for low altitude static line jumps so I knew that it was possible, but it would have to be at low altitude. The doors on the airplanes that we jump from (C-17s specifically) have angled shield walls and platforms that you can step out on when exiting the aircraft. (I'm not sure what the correct nomenclature is for those items) So you don't get the "blast to the face" even when you are standing in the door as the first jumper. Hell of a view though. Unless it is 2:00 in the morning.
@skyhawk_4526
@skyhawk_4526 Жыл бұрын
I believe in that situation, the plane is also FULLY depressurized before the door is opened (by fully opening the outflow vents to dump any residual pressure before attempting to open the door). I'm not familiar with the operation or design of the doors on the C-17, but if I recall correctly, the C-5, C-141 and some other USAF planes commonly used for jumps have doors that are pulled inward during the opening process and then slid upward or to one side inside of the aircraft cargo/troop compartment instead of outward like most commercial aircraft so that no part of the open door is outside of the aircraft. I assume this is the case for the jump doors of a C-17 as well. Aside from the main boarding door on the left side of the plane between the flight deck and wing and the rear ramp, I think the other doors open inward. (I could be wrong, but that seems to make more sense.)
@TwilightSun32
@TwilightSun32 Жыл бұрын
I never jumped from a pressurized plane. And pressurising the plane with skydivers could cause their AADs to mailfunction, so they usually turn them off in such a case, afaik
@Miroslav_Bulgaria
@Miroslav_Bulgaria Жыл бұрын
As always A BIG APPRECIATION to your work, knowledge, skills and COMMITMENT to the airplanes/airlines business and all of us interested in it! Be well! Hälsningar från Sofia, Bulgarien
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for watching! Glad you liked it
@susiejones3634
@susiejones3634 Жыл бұрын
I am so glad you're covering this, MentourPilot. I've seen a few videos of this, none of which made sense.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
I hope this one did?
@mhauze4all
@mhauze4all Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the explanation. As soon as I saw this news story I told my girlfriend, “Mentour Pilot will likely do a video on this, and I can’t wait to see it!”
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
I hope you weren’t disappointed 😄
@clareemerson
@clareemerson Жыл бұрын
Me too, I see something on the news and I just think I'll wait for Petter to comment.
@kbaylor123
@kbaylor123 Жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot I always learn something new, and I really appreciate it!
@Veiterpilot
@Veiterpilot Жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot ​​⁠ ​​⁠is the song in the background hold my hand?
@alien-vx2bj
@alien-vx2bj Жыл бұрын
lucky guy
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 Жыл бұрын
TL;DW: Exceptionally low pressure difference during landing, a armed emergency assist, a smaller and unguarded door. And someone with way too much determination.
@stephenlewis9159
@stephenlewis9159 Жыл бұрын
I was once in 1A on a A321. A woman took her 2 young children up to the toilet at the front, leaving a 2-3 year old boy to run around while she took her girl in first. We were descending to land before the fasten seatbelts sign was illuminated. After trying to pull out the catering trollies and successfully unlocking some of the them which the one cabin crew managed to catch the boy went to my side of the plane at the exit and made a huge lift on the exit lever. After all, levers are there to be pulled aren't they ;-) Anyway I was afraid that he might actually unseal the door and cause a painful cabin decompression, so I gave him a kick/shove with my foot to keep him away from the door. The door stayed in position and cabin crew dived over to grab him. His mother came out of the toilet totally unaware.
@memofromessex
@memofromessex Жыл бұрын
Did you kick him as hard as he deserved? And did the parents call the police when you landed?
@wadehiggins1114
@wadehiggins1114 Жыл бұрын
I hope you gave him a Bruce Leroy kick
@WatchingtheWorldBurning
@WatchingtheWorldBurning Жыл бұрын
I generally kick or shove all children under the age of 12 when joining a flight in economy. You know you'll want to at some time, anyway...😁
@papalaz4444244
@papalaz4444244 Жыл бұрын
@@memofromessex Nah mate because it didn't really happen at all. Obviously someone would leave a 3yo boy on therir own and nobody else on the plane would see them doing anything and stop it.....
@dodahspeak
@dodahspeak Жыл бұрын
@@memofromessex 😂
@cyruspiano-t5k
@cyruspiano-t5k Жыл бұрын
I am glad you've found the word -- "abnormal". We all learn from these series after all, thanks Captain. Keep the track towards the sky and never stop learning.
@TimSmyth23
@TimSmyth23 Жыл бұрын
Having worked on a320 and A321 aircraft, I always thought this would be possible, as opening the doors made them rise up out of all the latches around the edge, before they move out and sideways. Obviously when there is no or negative differential close to the ground. It’s not good to see it happen though. I asked ground engineers a few times about B757 and B767 aft-of-wing emergency exits as they are hinged at the bottom and seem to just hinge out. They didn’t know, but from your info they likely have an interlock. There is one thing I would love to know .. why is there a ‘fasten seatbelt’ light in the PSU panel of the B737 that you would only see lying down .. this is about row 11 on -800 aircraft I have been on recently. This is in addition to the usual lights visible when you are seated.
@MargaretUK
@MargaretUK Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Petter, when I saw the news report I did wonder if you would do a video about it. I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been for the other passengers, thank goodness no-one was hurt. Thank you for answering our questions 👍
@endermwatts
@endermwatts Жыл бұрын
From my previous interest in and from watching your videos as soon as I heard it happened at such a low altitude I knew it had to have at least partially been possible because of the pressure on the door not being as much as at high altitudes. I didn’t however know about the extra gas cylinder assist when the doors are armed and that made it all the much more possible. Thanks for the confirmation on my thinking, the additional information and great video explanation!
@missdolittle
@missdolittle Жыл бұрын
Oh I was hoping you would cover this one! That was fast too! Thank you.
@repatch43
@repatch43 Жыл бұрын
I honestly astonished the door was so minimally damaged, seriously strong design there
@groovydonkey
@groovydonkey Жыл бұрын
I found that very informative and why certain things different happen. I was for years a bit of a nervous passenger, but only during take off. I watched some of your videos and it made sense and now I am far more relaxed when flying and enjoy the experience more. You do a really great job. I just now have to get my sister over landing, which she always hates, but once down she is ok. I love your videos and always watch the new ones you release.👍👍👍😊😊😊
@amyt3949
@amyt3949 Жыл бұрын
As someone with a disability, who will never fly, these are fascinating stories. Many thanks from Melbourne 🇦🇺
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being here!
@michaeldunham3385
@michaeldunham3385 Жыл бұрын
Plenty of people with disabilities fly
@amyt3949
@amyt3949 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldunham3385 True, but I am not able to so I enjoy this channel and all we learn.
@WeirdSeagul
@WeirdSeagul Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldunham3385 you dont know his disability but at the same time I really hope everyone gets the experience of flying, its an incredible experience that has become normalised
@dziubo1
@dziubo1 Жыл бұрын
LATEST NEWS FOR @Michael Duncham !!!: Diabilities and consequences of disabilities can differ! For ppl with more than Hommer Simpson IQ, there's no news at this time.
@roses.9181
@roses.9181 Жыл бұрын
I love that you made a video on a very recent event! I was wondering if you would eventually make one, but so happy we are watching it today!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
If no one is seriously injured, and I think I can add something to the story, I will. Thanks for watching
@fantasip
@fantasip Жыл бұрын
I really like Petter's cosy, story telling corner - it kinda lulls the listener into some kind of safe feeling, despite the scary topics ✈😨🛩
@Mostly-Aviation
@Mostly-Aviation Жыл бұрын
I have heard about this incident on so many different channels but this one is my favourite by far
@AlphabetSoup64
@AlphabetSoup64 Жыл бұрын
I watched another video explaining the reasons the door was able to be opened. I really like the way you fully explained it. Way better than the other one I watched. Kudos and keep up the great work
@jwflyaway
@jwflyaway Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video, people must remember the plane coming for landing and like you said, was only 650 feet high when he open the door.
@der.Schtefan
@der.Schtefan Жыл бұрын
Panic attacks, intrusive thoughts, and the "knowledge" that "nothing is going to happen", go a long way. I remember playing around with the door handle in the car as a child. I played around for an hour on the drive to the vacation destination, knowing that as long as I don't pull enough, the door is not opening. But it did, and the next years I spent with the child safeties on. Ugh.
@StevePemberton2
@StevePemberton2 Жыл бұрын
Unrelated but years ago there was a kid with his parents boarding a 747 in Australia and he grabbed onto the control stick for the jetway. Unfortunately it had not been turned off and it moved the jetway and damaged the plane door. The flight had to be cancelled and a replacement door had to be flown in. Very costly, tens of thousands of dollars overall from what I remember but I don't think the family was charged for it.
@Jess-T
@Jess-T Жыл бұрын
And father
@AnasKhurshidVideos
@AnasKhurshidVideos Жыл бұрын
The moment i heard about the incident Mentour Pilot came into my mind, I SO WANTED to watch a video on this, Great work! You should do this more - make short/quick video about on-goings in avaiation and on recent incidents.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
I will, if you guys like me to. I’m actually really excited to do some different content than historical incidents and accidents
@lov2us
@lov2us Жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot we would highly appreciate it if you have time to do this! I was checking out your video when the news came out. It would be very educational for the general public!
@eurostockoption
@eurostockoption 10 ай бұрын
Airbus: our door can be opened... Boeing: hold my door, seriously it's falling...
@pauledwards1157
@pauledwards1157 Жыл бұрын
I knew there was going to be a lot of questions on this incident. As soon as I heard what happened, it was obvious to me that this occurred at a low altitude where the pressure differential was very low. Very nice explanation on the design differences between the Boeing and Airbus doors.
@Eternal_Tech
@Eternal_Tech Жыл бұрын
When it comes to assigning blame, it is best to wait for the final report. However, a incident like this that teaches the viewers about physics, design, and engineering, without assigning blame with the exception of a known fact (a passenger opened an aircraft's door in-flight), can be safely discussed before the final report is issued. In addition, kudos to Petter for stating the situation that the door opener was experiencing (possible stress due to employment loss) and likely mental illness. When this incident was discussed on other forums, there were some people equating the perpetrator with a terrorist and proposing that he should have been pushed out of the aircraft.
@sleepysera
@sleepysera Жыл бұрын
It's the internet, people always call for the closest equivalent to a public execution they can think of in the safety of outraged anonymity. I wouldn't attribute too much value to that kind of talk.
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 Жыл бұрын
@@sleepysera Reminds me of when my country's Miss World was later found to have been charged with shoplifting, & 1 of my schoolmates commented that she should've been thrown into a river & fed to fishes
@qnsvh392
@qnsvh392 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent explanation, Petter. As a Korean who flew and very much likely will fly on Asiana, I was quite worried when I saw the news of this incident. Thanks for the explanation and keep up the good work!😊👍
@qnsvh392
@qnsvh392 Жыл бұрын
On a side note, Even though I know that emergency exit row seats are highly desirable for the legroom and airlines profit from the extra few dollars that they can collect from the seats, I believe that keeping the exit door handle in arm's reach from the seat was at least part of the reason why this incident happened so quickly. Maybe requiring airlines to distance the seats right next to the emergency exits from the doors a certain distance(at least out of arm's reach) might help?
@lisahinton9682
@lisahinton9682 Жыл бұрын
@-o1008 The fact that your English is better than 99% of my fellow Americans' depresses me greatly. Well-done, you! 🙂
@qnsvh392
@qnsvh392 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@lisahinton9682Thank you! I had the privilege of learning English in the US when I was little, so nothing to be depressed about here! Without your people's help, I would never have been able to watch Petter's wonderful videos, much less reply to your lovely comment :)
@ScouseJazmin
@ScouseJazmin Жыл бұрын
The moment I saw this on the news I knew in my heart that this video would come 😂 didn't expect such a good one this soon!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
My team and I have been working flat out this week to get it produced. We always try and give that little extra in these productions, that’s why it takes time.
@corbzdj
@corbzdj Жыл бұрын
Hey, I have been watching all your videos on aviation accidents/incidents and they really are binge worthy. The amount and quality of technical information and professional observations you give are truly outstanding. That being said, I would love to see you make an episode about Independent Air Flight 1851, that crashed in Santa Maria Island in Azores. I find it an interesting one since reportedly there were multiple causes to it, which immediately reminded me of the cheese model you talk about so much in your videos, and also because it happened in the Azores, where I was born and have been living most my life. Anyways, thank you for all these hours of story telling and learning you have come to provide, fly safe!
@fudpukker
@fudpukker Жыл бұрын
Hey Petter, great video, thanks. Please keep making them, it always takes ages for the final report and by that time, we have mostly forgotten about the incident. Your timely feedback on preliminary possible causes keeps the faith for the nervous fliers...
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you. But I can only do this when there is a fairly clear cause and no one was seriously hurt.
@fudpukker
@fudpukker Жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot Got it, agreed.
@Celeon999A
@Celeon999A Жыл бұрын
On a side note : This is also the reason why spacecraft like the International Space Station, Orion, Soyuz etc. all have inwards opening airlock doors/hatches which ensure that they can never open accidentally due to mechanical or human failure. The pressure differential between the spacecraft and the vaccum of space makes this virtually impossible. The otherwise very good movie "Gravity" starring Sandra Bullock for instance, show this completely wrong with outwards opening hatches on the ISS and TianGong , which for outlined reasons do not exist. ;-)
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland Жыл бұрын
How did the freemasons get out to play golf on the moon all those years ago?
@cassinipanini
@cassinipanini Жыл бұрын
always better to have physics help you than to fight against it 🤣
@aaronmdjones
@aaronmdjones Жыл бұрын
@@MattyEngland You depressurise the airlock, which makes it a vacuum on both sides of the door.
@TimothyEBaldwin
@TimothyEBaldwin Жыл бұрын
Dragon and Apollo (after Apollo 1) have outward opening doors.
@derekanderson4113
@derekanderson4113 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the video was the detailed explanation of how the cabin is pressurized. I was always curious how this was done.
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd Жыл бұрын
The reason I feel safe when flying is quite simply because of the pilots. The way I see it, as long as they want to go home they will do everything in their power to land safely. And that keeps me safe too 👍
@tomdavis3038
@tomdavis3038 Жыл бұрын
True that, but that does not prevent pilot error Cheers
@acidgambit8138
@acidgambit8138 Жыл бұрын
Mostly true, but if you look into the past....pilots have cut corners on procedures cause they got impatient and caused disasters.
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd Жыл бұрын
@@acidgambit8138 Fair comment.... but who put the bad pilot in a position to be flying other people. I hate the phrase "pilot error" because a bad pilot or a poorly trained pilot was hired by an airline despite their inadequacy. Your life in an airlines hands And you should be able to expect on any form transport you buy a ticket for is operated by someone who is competent and fit for purpose I appreciate your interaction and civil manner but I also anticipate some backlash from haters
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd Жыл бұрын
@@tomdavis3038 I hate the phrase "pilot error" Who puts the pilot in the cockpit? I don't include you in this statement because you have been civilised in your comment. But I also expect backlash from people who simply think pilot error is the reason Again I ask the question; who puts an inadequate or poorly trained pilot in a cockpit?
@jimmym3352
@jimmym3352 Жыл бұрын
Not the case with Egypt Air Flight 990, Malaysia Flight 370, and that German one that crashed into the Alps (I don't remember the Flight number on that one). It's certainly why I don't like some calls to reduce the number of pilots to 1.
@Dankfz1
@Dankfz1 Жыл бұрын
I come and go from this channel, binging and then waiting more more videos to listen to while working. It always seems to be shortly before needing to fly for work. 😂
@barbaraperry5023
@barbaraperry5023 Жыл бұрын
As always, a thoughtful and brilliantly explained lesson to those of us who are interested in the particulars of an aviation incident. Thank you for your time and effort in producing this!( if you come home and one of your children says " Mum, who is that strange man?", kindly reduce your schedule...)❤😊
@jayaskme2942
@jayaskme2942 Жыл бұрын
Man, this story kinda hits my close to the heart. About 10 years ago I was flying back home after helping my parents move. There was a young lady with some form of social disability on the flight in the window seat next to me in an emergency isle. We started chatting early in the flight and i volunteered to help distract her as needed during the flight. After a fair bit of chatting she hugged my arm for comfort and took a nap. Initially I was a bit nervous with a total stranger sleeping with her head on my shoulder, but i decided what the heck. I didn't have anything on me worth stealing and it was only a 2 hour flight. After about 20 minutes of the flight attendants coming by checking on her and a polite head nod of approval from the Flight marshal that was on board and seated just in front of us (he later confirmed he was there to help keep watch on the young lady because the airlines knew of her disability) I started to nod off. Shortly after i closed my eyes another attendant came by with blankets, one of which she reached over and placed over the young lady... which unfortunately helped create a very scary moment. A few minutes later the young lady started to wake up and was briefly confused as to where she was... and still being not fully conscious, began to thrash about in panic with the blanket that she didn't know was covering her. Her yells scared everyone on the flight and startled me back awake. Thinking she was having a seizure, I shoved the lady in the isle seat out of her seat and moved us both into the isle thinking that i've always been told not to try to restrain someone during a seizure, but rather to try to move anything dangerous from their reach instead. However, as she got her arms free she started grasping at everything around her...which included the emergency door controls. In a moment of panic i faced away from her and leaned over her and against the inside of the plane and tried to body block her as gently as I could to prevent her from accidentally moving the door control. In hindsight i realized that was futile as we were in-flight at that moment but I wasn't thinking clearly. The air marshal and attendants came shortly after and I was briefly placed under arrest and moved to the forward most galley while they worked to calm the young lady, contact her caregivers, and eventually investigate what happened. Thankfully everything ended well once they got her in contact with her caregivers via the air-phones and she was able to explain that she just got scared when she woke up in an unfamiliar place and felt restrained by the combination of hugging my arm (made her feel like her arms were bound) and the blanket (that she wasn't expecting at all). I was released inflight, after a PA explaining to everyone what happened and that everyone was safe and we landed without further incident thankfully. But i was reminded of that because for a few moments i was genuinely worried about her opening that door inflight by accident.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 Жыл бұрын
Why on earth (pun not intended :-)!) weren't her caregivers sitting with her?
@theanimaster
@theanimaster Жыл бұрын
@@tomriley5790because it’s Amurrica and they give fuckall to keeping families and groups together on planes like they otherwise would prioritize on any other flight overseas?
@trevorjoneill707
@trevorjoneill707 Жыл бұрын
why gods name was she seated beside an emergency door with a disability?
@andrewkandasamy
@andrewkandasamy Жыл бұрын
@@trevorjoneill707 This is the real question. On most airlines I've flown on sitting in an exit row is accompanied by an "are you willing and able to assist in an emergency?" and a required reseating if the answer is "no".
@uppercut147
@uppercut147 Жыл бұрын
@@theanimaster In OP's story, he made it clear her parents weren't even ON the flight because they had to call them on the phone.
@indigo6124
@indigo6124 Жыл бұрын
This video was so informative, Thank You! for working on it and bring it to us. I love your work.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being here!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@crazynx870
@crazynx870 Жыл бұрын
Yaay I’m excited to watch another video of yours! Summer holidays has been boring for me so far
@HerkulesPierewoj
@HerkulesPierewoj Жыл бұрын
The amount of work you put into your videos amazes me every time. Btw great animations!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@europa08
@europa08 Жыл бұрын
The fact that I already easily knew the answer to all the questions being asked is a testament to the level of knowledge that you provide! My first guess was that the differential pressure was not especially high because of low altitude as well as the mechanical design aspects of the door that provide a little bit of assistance when opening. I'm glad I was spot on! As soon as I saw this story, my first thought was how you were going to explain why this was possible.
@csebastian71
@csebastian71 Жыл бұрын
Just got smarter. Never knew about how and why you can’t open a door during flight. Thanks
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
That’s why I’m here. Glad you liked it!
@Adwaenyth
@Adwaenyth Жыл бұрын
From an engineering point of view, we have a saying: "If you try to make something fool proof, nature will just invent a better fool." While that might not sound very nice, it actually has a more complex meaining. While you can try to think of all possible things that could happen to your design, it's unlikely that you can consider every single circuumstance that might occur. In the end, the part is only as good as the circuumstances you were able to predict. That should not mean that you shouldn't try to make it as perfect as possible, but you will likely never cover it all. And since over-engineering is a thing, you have to compromise to what is reasonable in terms of functionality, safety, maintainability and costs. Especially safety is a tricky subject. What is safe under one condition might not be with another parameters, but only one failure might be necessary for a disasterous outcome. On the other hand it advises you to be cautious. It means that you can't rely perfectly on any piece of engineering and have to monitor performance and need to look over feedback etc. constantly.
@auraaura2417
@auraaura2417 Жыл бұрын
That's very good insight!
@countzero1136
@countzero1136 Жыл бұрын
Exactly - you can never design for every possobly scenario - After all, when Microsoft were designing the security on the Xbox360, nobody could have ever anticipated that some enerprising hacker would actually drill a hole into the security chip in order to sever the security connection! We design things as best we can, trying to anticipate every realistic scenario, but sometimes, something comes way out of left field that nobody could ever have thought of...
@brylozketrzyn
@brylozketrzyn Жыл бұрын
I don't think there will be any technical changes due to this incident. At altitude so low emergency exits can still be used at some airports, so absolute pressure switch is a no-go. Electric locks controlled by engine rotation maybe. For sure we will not see emergency exits fully staffed, when airlines are already trying to limit staff members to minimum (I could even imagine PM being forced to do steward job soon).
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
I hope you are wrong there but we shall see.
@johannesgutsmiedl366
@johannesgutsmiedl366 Жыл бұрын
there might well be a case where an engine is stuck on or the sensor gets disabled before an evacuation is called... any interlocks preventing emergency doors from being opened are REALLY problematic so hopefully there will be no need for them.
@foxglovesbouquet2905
@foxglovesbouquet2905 Жыл бұрын
Tayla: I could see an alarm being added to the handle cover that's armed whenever the plane is off the ground. That way someone would certainly notice and hopefully stop them.
@brylozketrzyn
@brylozketrzyn Жыл бұрын
@MentourPilot if there would be any active interlock for sure there should be some backup override system accessible from passenger area. Emergency exits has to be operable even in case of crew incapacitation by people without airline training even in situations some (or all) systems are down. I can imagine, that interlock could freeze, rust, become INOP due to other faults or just be overlooked in maintenance. Given the fact, that cabin pressurization is the most important countermeasure at most vulnerable altitudes - we should only see ways to ensure maneuverability and some engine protection against deployment of front emergency traps. So topic is very hard and while one troubled person should not be able to take down airliner, one person should still be able to escape real danger.
@bozimmerman
@bozimmerman Жыл бұрын
I've never been a nervous flyer in all my 50 years. I have to say though, these videos sure are working on it.
@TheMinimalistTherapist
@TheMinimalistTherapist Жыл бұрын
Same. 🎉 Go us for facing the fear!
@kiwimusume
@kiwimusume Жыл бұрын
I def have to be careful with KZbin videos about air disasters. You can click something to make them stop showing up on your page if you want.
@dreamthedream8929
@dreamthedream8929 6 ай бұрын
​@@kiwimusumeits impressive how this pilot from this channel still keeps flying and getting on planes without developing intense anxiety from all this kind of content
@indigo6124
@indigo6124 Жыл бұрын
I think the man who opened the door was lucky to not fall off the plane.
@zebo-the-fat
@zebo-the-fat Жыл бұрын
at 650 feet, what was he expecting to do when he had got the door open?
@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat
@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat Жыл бұрын
Or get pushed out
@Релёкс84
@Релёкс84 Жыл бұрын
Or unlucky
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 Жыл бұрын
@@zebo-the-fat He likely wasn't in a sound frame of mind, so he wasn't making rational plans like "I will open the door. That will enable me to do X."
@quinnocent
@quinnocent Жыл бұрын
​@@zebo-the-fat We've had multiple ppl try to open the doors before. It's usually some kind of extreme panic or anxiety state or some other type of acute mental illness.
@22vx
@22vx Жыл бұрын
Quite shocking! Thanks Petter for sharing!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@captainzeppos
@captainzeppos Жыл бұрын
Very well explained, as always. I understood everything expect "inches".
@michaelb1716
@michaelb1716 Жыл бұрын
Yet again Mentor is the place for so much technical detail yet very understandable and not too overwhelming to follow. Thank you!
@CaptainSiCo
@CaptainSiCo Жыл бұрын
I remember that during an onboard fire (I think it was the South African B747 in 1987) the pilots were able to depressurise the plane and fly slow enough so the doors could be opened a crack. Sadly the flight still ended in disaster.
@TheOnlyTaps
@TheOnlyTaps Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fantastic coverage as always 🙏🏿
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! 💕💕
@MattFromWiiSportsAndWiiParty
@MattFromWiiSportsAndWiiParty Жыл бұрын
Ideas: FedEx flight 80 FedEx flight 14 Charkhi Dadri mid air colision Uberlingen mid air colision Malaysia Airlines flight 370 China airlines flight 611 Japan Airlines flight 123 Trans World Airline flight 800 Any more ideas? Comment them bellow👇
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 Жыл бұрын
+1 for MH370 But he probably wouldn't do it, because all he or any of us can do is speculate endlessly. There's probably not much to say about it that hasn't already been said by someone, unless they find the wreckage. But I'm sort of interested to see how he would cover it.
@joey76611
@joey76611 Жыл бұрын
Adding to this list if you don't mind - Indian Airlines flight IC605
@gernhard.reinholdsen
@gernhard.reinholdsen Жыл бұрын
China 611 is absolutely harrowing, but there is not really much of a cockpit aspect to it, so my hopes are fairly low that Petter will cover it.
@Er_Guille
@Er_Guille Жыл бұрын
Just my two cents. SBA flight 518, in feb 2008. At the time, the deadliest accident in an ATR 42-300
@freeculture
@freeculture Жыл бұрын
@@Er_Guille Ah yes, the pilots that couldn't wait for the gyro calibration and rushed departure because of the VIP on board (and being late because, "reasons")... Then lost their way inside the clouds and crashed into a mountain. No sterile cockpit and trying a (dangerous) shortcut to "save time"... Pure pilot negligence, subpar airline and underpaid authorities. That's one of the most dangerous airports of Venezuela and has been closed many times because of its hazardous geographical location. Even to this day many international airlines avoid Venezuela's airspace due to dysfunctional flying aids and sanctions. Unsurprisingly flights from Moscow to Porlamar, or Habana to Caracas continue this very day.
@thecamo_gamer
@thecamo_gamer Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm glad that no one got seriously hurt. And on my bithday.
@kristofferjohansson3768
@kristofferjohansson3768 Жыл бұрын
Mentour Pilot, the current news channel, has emerged! Thanks for the video!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
Not really. I will only do this when there is a clear, logical explanation and no one was hurt. But I’m hoping to do more of them!
@kristofferjohansson3768
@kristofferjohansson3768 Жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot 👍
@thomaspiedmont
@thomaspiedmont Жыл бұрын
Great work Petter! Please, if you can, continue with this kind of videos on this channel when an event like this happen 😬🙏🏼✈
@Northern.Town.
@Northern.Town. Жыл бұрын
I'm the wife of a 6'5" husband and we're often seated next to the emergency exit doors. I can honestly say I have never looked at the door and wondered if we could open it in flight!
@annettefertitta6868
@annettefertitta6868 Жыл бұрын
There is no way to predict the actions of everyone - it really is shocking how little people have regard for everyone else’s safety- glad that no one was seriously injured and hopes that individual gets some help
@Julia-nl3gq
@Julia-nl3gq Жыл бұрын
I doubt it was a case of not having 'regard for everyone else's safety'. Like he said, mental illness may be involved. I'd be highly surprised if it wasn't. So kindly do not add to the stigma of mental illness.
@annettefertitta6868
@annettefertitta6868 Жыл бұрын
@@Julia-nl3gq you are correct and I apologize for saying it that way, I did also say that I hope that individual gets help and I was sincere in saying that
@DavidMukamba-p6l
@DavidMukamba-p6l Жыл бұрын
Am so addicted to your videos Petter and have watched all of them. I enjoyed the technical part a lot in this video whenever i explain one of your technical parts to my friends they think am a pilot. I now love aviation because of your channel and your videos, you @Mentour Pilot and Kelse@74 Gear are my favorite aviation Channels. From Zambia centra Africa.
@habeebadediran7874
@habeebadediran7874 Жыл бұрын
This is lovely.... The explanation was so detailed that it appeared as though I was watching a livestream of the incident. Keep up the good work sir.
@mrbluesky2050
@mrbluesky2050 Жыл бұрын
every time you make something 'as fool-proof' as possible, somebody makes a better 'fool'.
@dinred_
@dinred_ 7 ай бұрын
"It would be utterly impossible to open a door mid-flight" _Boeing :_ Hold my bolts
@BubblesTheCat1
@BubblesTheCat1 Жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY the same reason as to why self driving cars will never work. They'll have to share the road with human drivers, who at the best of times are completely unpredictable.
@psirvent8
@psirvent8 Жыл бұрын
And aside from that there are automated transit systems like the VAL (Automated Light Vehicle in French), which operate in closed underground tunnels, therefore eliminating the issue of sharing the "road" with human drivers or even pedestrians etc... VAL is used as a shuttle at some airports and even as a proper underground/subway system in some cities over the world. All stations have platform doors, meaning you can't trespass on the tracks and get hit by a driverless train. With that being said, there are actually people monitoring the entire system all the time it is operating and they can even take over the controls if for whatever reason the automated systems were to fail.
@geirmyrvagnes8718
@geirmyrvagnes8718 Жыл бұрын
This is also true for human drivers, not just computers. Which is why human drivers will never be safe.
@aarondavis8943
@aarondavis8943 Жыл бұрын
They will happen when AI can account for human drivers way better than other humans can. The payoffs are simply gargantuan so it's going to happen, probably within 10 years.
@petep.2092
@petep.2092 Жыл бұрын
@@aarondavis8943 I hate to say, but you are entirely too optimistic as to what it takes to account for humans and their creativity, unreliability, deviousness, lack of integrity, impulsiveness, … We don't fully know how we work, but are trying to make machines that can outguess us! Don't forget that earlier estimates were that autonomous cars would be ubiquitous by 2018.
@benmessaoudnajma9955
@benmessaoudnajma9955 Жыл бұрын
Sir, as student who live in South Korea for my master degree and have DEEP DEEP DEEP flight anxiety, your videos helps me LOT! I hope to conquer my dear one day! Thank you for everything
@NikolaiUA
@NikolaiUA Жыл бұрын
Finally at least a bit technical video that explains a part on how an airplane is operated!
@Lana-oe3qy
@Lana-oe3qy Жыл бұрын
Yep I hoped Mentour would cover this. Now we'll know what happened.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot Жыл бұрын
I hope you will like the video
@JK50with10
@JK50with10 Жыл бұрын
One solution would be an alarm on the removable handle cover to alert the cabin crew before someone can pull the big lever.
@RastaPilot737
@RastaPilot737 Жыл бұрын
This!
@peterwilliamson1825
@peterwilliamson1825 Жыл бұрын
That wouldn't prevent them from removing the cover and immediately lifting the handle.
@kbaylor123
@kbaylor123 Жыл бұрын
@ti It sounds like with the even small amount of diff pressure, it would probably take some time to force that lever open after removing the cover though wouldn’t it? Maybe enough time to respond?
@JK50with10
@JK50with10 Жыл бұрын
@@peterwilliamson1825 If he was messing with the handle during the flight it might have helped in this case and even any warning is better than none.
@peterwilliamson1825
@peterwilliamson1825 Жыл бұрын
@@JK50with10 Modifying aircraft is more complicated than it might first seem. You can't just drill a hole anywhere you want to mount a sensor or bracket. They may well need to perform a stress analysis on the structure where you intend to drill that hole. Equally, following the TWA 800 incident where a spark in the fuel tank caused the aircraft to explode mid-air and Swissair fight 111 where there was a fire in the cockpit overhead panel you can't just add new wiring wherever you want. So if they are going to implement a 'fix' it should be a solution to all possible scenarios, not just a specific case like this.
@1936Studebaker
@1936Studebaker Жыл бұрын
As a skydiver, in a non pressurized aircraft (prop driven aircraft) we can open the door at any altitude up to 14,000 feet, if we are doing a HALO jump on oxygen then even higher. The cabin isn't pressurized so there is no decompression taking place.
@mballer
@mballer Жыл бұрын
But can you make a successful jump from 650 feet?
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 Жыл бұрын
@@mballer The jump is successful; the landing might not be. :baddum-tsh!:
@Georgiagreen317
@Georgiagreen317 Жыл бұрын
Even a light aircraft has some degree of pressurization in cruise. A Bonanza for example cruising at around 160, the side vent window is not only hard to open but the air rushing out is enough to suck items out. I lost a Sectional chart that way. Bonanza's were (are) also known for cabin doors popping up on their own. It's nearly impossible to close it without landing. And the air circulating inside the cabin is very uncomfortable, to say the least.
@erenoz2910
@erenoz2910 Жыл бұрын
This is something that I have secretly wondered while I was waiting for the toilet on an airplane. Thanks for answering that.
@zachurbytes5149
@zachurbytes5149 Жыл бұрын
Can you cover SAA flight 295? Your videos are the only ones I watch about disasters, it is a pilots perspective and you go through ALL the facts. Love your channel. Please cover flight 295💯🙏🏽
@ditzygypsy
@ditzygypsy Жыл бұрын
I am such a nervous flier, if I had been sitting in those seats by the door, I’d have jumped up and freaked out and pushed the guy fiddling with the door. And then asked to have him moved to a seat away from any doors if there was room. I wouldn’t be able to help myself if I saw someone doing something that incredibly stupid.
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