Mesa Prices Come Down But Will The Captain & Pete Boogie?

[@christopher7310]

Lots of husband's are, as of this moment, convincing they're wives that this is a temporary sale and must get one right now. Hahahaha

[@andertons]

Couldn't have put it better ourselves... 😉

[@JohannesLabusch]

"Husbands", and "their". But yeah. Hahahaha.

[@markkozielec2200]

I read that out loud to wifey, and I must thank you! You’ve, now, received MY daily eye roll. Much appreciated!😜

[@pronumeral1446]

@@JohannesLabusch Looks like he was learning Amaj7, B minor and Cadd9 when he should have been learning ABC. I can't talk though haha!

[@stanislavmigra]

@@JohannesLabusch he was just too hyped for the price, forgive him ...

[@mikemoore3635]

The question is though have you two been practicing those chugs that master Ola Englund taught you haha seriously though great jam at the intro.

[@andertons]

We sure have! Our latest epid deal video shows off the new Chug skills taught by Ola... 😉

[@celestelongway7315]

Ha ha ha funny guitar player joke for 2021.

[@ap7498]

Happy everyone outside the US gets a “better” chance to acquire Mesa amps. Still on the higher side, but I have a Lonestar Special and I will never buy another amp. Cheers from SoCal!!

[@freezingCode]

Maybe Marshall can do the same for us in the US now. 😄

[@freezingCode]

@ThatsRaidillonActually I'll take 2! If we ignore other factors, and convert the Anderton's price of a JCM 800 into USD, and compare that with the price of a JCM 800 at Guitar Center in USD... the Guitar Center customer will pay a bit over $1,100 more before taxes.

[@saheltaja]

snowBlind Really? Is this taking into account the fact Andertons has the UK 20% VAT in the prices already?

[@freezingCode]

@@saheltaja I didn't do any due diligence. I just took the advertised price on their websites, and didn't add any taxes or anything.

[@saheltaja]

@@freezingCode So the price differencemay be even greater than that across the Atlantic - UK price including the 20%VAT being $1100 less than the US price before taxes. So the actual difference would be (according to the websites) around $1500 before sales tax (UK price is about $1500 before VAT). Maybe consider ordering your Marshalls from Andertons? :D

[@merqury5]

Petrucci says about adjusting the EQ on his boogie : "breathe on it"

[@zacharykim295]

Lol he said that?

[@MuddySump]

The middleman disliked the video 12 times already

[@rexsolomon6325]

Lee's guitar skills has grown by leaps and bound by jamming for days every week with master Pete. Compare that to the years Lee spent in the Chappers and the Captain era (just the honest truth verified by past Andertons videos). Lesson: always jam with someone far better at guitar playing than you - who can also teach as well. Amazing progress Lee!

[@siegmac3267]

Not really. Lee is not interested with Robs genre or playing and hes more into Petes playing thats why he enjoys it so much more. The hate on Rob is disgusting.

[@cliffwhite2812]

Pete plays like Lee wants to, so Lee learns it quicker.

[@itsmeagain1745]

@@siegmac3267 Agreed - Rob is there for a different viewpoint/style when demonstrating (he's also pretty damn good when blindfolded at recognising stuff!).

[@siegmac3267]

@@itsmeagain1745 no one can beat him (i think) in guessing game. He can smell, hear and kill. Lol amazing man for what he is and what he does.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

I've had loads of Mesas. I never keep them because they're not quite right for me stage-wise but every time I see another one up for grabs I end up buying it because they're so beautiful and so well made.

[@DennysPlantBasedJourney]

Is it just me or does Lee look like he has an afro with the decoration in the background... fro with lights around it.... LOL

[@defur45]

That’s all I see now lol

[@PulledPurk]

Reminds me of Boxy Brown

[@georgesabitpol]

I must say the captains rifts were pretty impressive. So much progress over the last couple of years!

[@andertons]

We always appreciate the comments on the Captains playing! Thanks for tuning in.

[@EnglishVeteran]

Riffs, I believe .........

[@ptrisonic]

Always nice dynamics in his playing. Pete.

[@kindnick58]

Lee Lee King 👑

[@aemk6129]

Everyone loves a good rift... let’s you understand who your true friends are.

[@JohnKelly2]

You just sold the tweed and the G&L together. Clearly they belong together!

[@imantisocial3179]

congratulations to everyone about to own a boogie. please spare a moment of thought for us in australia where a mesa head is literally 1/3 of a house deposit.

[@iamrichlol]

You must be buying a pretty cheap house

[@imantisocial3179]

@@iamrichlol i bought the boogie instead.

[@unitoftemp]

Hell, a mesa head will cost me two years of college tuition

Comes with divorce papers

[@kuanbartel3124]

They don't seem to be that different. For example Anderton's is selling the Fillmore 50 for £1739 which is around $3190 AUD. Same amp advertised for $3199 in Australia. Have to shop around a bit though. RRP does look like it's $3699.

[@nekrovulpes]

Great, now I'll only need to sell ONE of my kidneys for a Recto...

[@andertons]

Better than selling both... 😉

[@DomTremendous]

A small price to pay!

[@Swampster70]

You don't need a kidney if you have a Dual Rectumfier.

[@goldmole1]

@@andertons I thought your answer to be more like: "We'll buy it in a heartbeat"

[@NJSonye]

Just trade in

[@robbyrobby7721]

I got lonestar classic and normally play metal, the amp is so good I changed my style. That’s something good when it changes your style

[@allstopblue5717]

For me the Lone Star is where it’s at! But Mesa does have much more variety available than people usually think about

[@GuillermoZS]

Outstanding news! They were heavily overpriced before. Now it is an option for a non professional European musician to get a MB

[@JonnyMoto]

waaaaaaiting for that Dave Simpson episode 🙃

[@mdowney14]

Lol - I love how you Brits pronounce “mehhsuh boooogie”. 🤣🤣🤣

[@plantagenant]

Saw Robin Trower a few years ago and the bass player was using a Boogie amp and it sounded very good indeed.

[@andyr8805]

Great amps.........untill you have a technical problem with it. They're murder to work on. :-)

[@ParFive]

Mesa's boogie. Pro quality for working guys prices. I met Randall Smith, he is the real deal. Get a Boogie. Have some fun. :)

[@beng808]

Can we have a shoot out between a California Tweed and a V40 Deluxe? They seem to both be that Fender type vibe, and they both sound awesome

[@andertons]

You sure can.

[@cantrellisgod]

Everyone who was selling a used Mesa is now furious...

[@theiranxican7412]

Yeah I'm kinda regretting selling my Mesa boogie f50 combo a couple years ago. That combined with my old Tc electronic nova drive was a match made in heaven. But my boss katana artist has done some serious heavy lifting, so I cant feel too bogged down.

[@cantrellisgod]

@@theiranxican7412 I've just upgraded from a katana 50 to the Artist... Just because I have some really nice guitars and it seemed silly to have a practice amp. It's far too loud for my need, but god it sounds good...

[@malthus101]

@@theiranxican7412 well now you can buy a brand new one at knockdown prices!

[@theiranxican7412]

@@cantrellisgod eh it still has the 0.5 watts setting and a headphone jack. Save the higher output for gigs dude lol I gotta admit, just like a valve amp, it does sound monstrous when you crank it. Love it!🤘 Hopefully you got the mkii version! I wish I wouldve waited for it but the first line of katana artist are still exceptional.

[@theiranxican7412]

@@malthus101 I think it's mostly for Europe that they'll be cheaper. Here in the states it's been the same price. I wouldnt mind buying the amp back but theres not many left, the shipping is costly (that's due to the amps heavy weight) and they kinda went up in price. Unless I didnt pay attention to the video? Lol

[@Elektrifekt]

Every time I watch one of these videos I constantly question if I need a house to live in more than what’s being demoed

[@donofly]

I'm watching this video again 3 years later, and the Fillmore 50 head is now around $2,000 U.S dollars. I paid $1,500 2 years ago.

[@alien4422]

Mesas are now back here in the UK with huge price increases. A Mesa Boogie Fillmore 50 Medium Head now costs $2,783.27 over here. 😒

[@basildog007]

Really you can't go wrong with Mesa... My Lonestar classic brings me joy everyday! It's made me play way more... So much more. I use it probably 4 times a day. It's addictive.

[@NickKBMusic]

I’ve had a Fillmore 50 for a few months and I’m always impressed with how great it sounds! Lots of versatility with a responsive EQ section. Get one while you can!!

[@johncecilia4517]

Like how Captain says Boogie. You don't say similar sounding words like that. Where is that coming from?

[@tonykaiser1169]

The opening song was called “This Old House Montage”.

[@obiwankenobi4529]

Pete is speaking a lot of french lately, maybe we should call him French Pete

[@mcbrodz1663]

I think he was French all along

[@Po1itica11yNcorrect]

That California Tweed is a gorgeous amp and sounds fantastic too. The 2W to 40W seems perfect for home use without waking the neighbors...or God forbid, the wife!!

[@mikeyseward9447]

I've been searching off and on for a few years now for a used Mesa at that price and you mean to tell me I can get a new one for that much, dang, 2020 mighta just took it's first positive turn in a while, great vid guys!

[@kendogg97]

That markup was insane. Good on Mesa for setting up distro in Europe.

[@chatbass2468]

29:41 The look of fear (when your wife realises how much you 'actually' spent)

[@tonybowen455]

One of the best tones I've heard with lee in the intro. That g&l and that tweed amp, omfg!

[@AtariForeva]

That G&L looks and sounds great.

[@mikemoore3635]

Yes yes it does man

[@damasterkarej]

That's why Pete owns it :-)

[@rebeccagarner2576]

I LOVE G& L guitars!!!!

[@kenyonstewart7120]

Really wish we could see Pete's left hand better on that 80's rock bit starting around 22:22. I get the basic G to C bit, but can't really work out that D on 5th fret and some of the other bits

[@idanshahar]

Sounds great! We're gonna need more high gain metal videos soon.. most viewers here probobly know this channel from the Rob Chapman era and miss the metal tones!

[@bptsullivan]

Nothing against chappers but I LOVE listening to the Dane! Lee has gotten so much better, too!

[@paulneeds]

Really nice sounding amps.. if only I had an excuse - and the cash - to get one. I already have an attenuator... ;)

[@matejgligorevic2632]

Pete made that amp SING 😭. Holy smokes that sounded amazing

[@MarkJohnsonJams]

The Fillmore Amps have intrigued me for a while. I think they sound really good.

[@geralr]

The Captain and Pete are my guitar heroes

[@11calman]

Andertons Music Co, In my younger days I used to have a Mesa Boogie for all my gigs, I used to have a giant orgasm every time i plugged it in, My roadie used to have a Giant Hernia when he had to shift it. Now that I'm 82, Ive sold it to some young punk who had a Hernia taking out to his car and have to admit, that I called out "Ya Wimp" but it did have the greatest of sounds for what I was playing. These days I just stick to country

[@Safriguy]

I've owned Mesa's in the past and currently have a Fillmore 50 Combo. It was a toss up between these two but the Fillmore prevailed. Gorgeous amp and extremely versatile. Take pedals very well and bags of character with a highly interactive EQ. Does the Fender thing if you need it to but also has the character of a Mesa, particularly in the Hi mode. Great demo guys.

[@MRxr400]

love the filmore presence. killer amps, would love to have one. stuck with a single rec that does rock just right for me.

[@alejandrorangel3257]

As Fillmore Owner. do you think it can be use at bedroom levels or too loud and need attenuator?

[@NathanMichalik]

I would really love for Mesa to make a Synergy module.

[@rebeccagarner2576]

Everyone I know who sold their M Boogie regrets it! If you have one, KEEP IT!!!

[@Icantdrive55]

Santana uses a custom made custom voiced Mesa Boogie on stage and in the studio.

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

I’ve got a Mark V 35 on order and could not be more excited. I stupidly sold my Dual Rectifier in 2012 and never thought I could swing a Boogie again. I’m grateful that my girlfriend has blessed me with a Mark V combo.

[@glenproctor1999]

Love, love, love the Cali Tweed. Time to re-visit the Boogie pedal range now too?

[@andrewbrown8927]

They are coming down in price but kimd of seems lile quality is also. People have tons of issues with parts failing in them. I want one but that keeps me from spending so much seeing how many people have issues with them.

[@Swampster70]

Andy Timmons' demos of the Mark 5:25 could suggest that it can do those cool Fender like cleans and really cool distortion. The big 90 watt head, for me is a little lacking that magic but in the smaller 25 and 35 watt amps: those little EL84's are like lightening in a bottle. You can chill with some cool SRV dirty clean tone, all the way up to full on Metallica chunk. I know you and Chappers did a review of one, but he has a right hand of a wet noodle...

[@tomhickey5740]

*sighs* checks wallet

[@macsarcule]

My 100 watt Fillmore makes a baritone acoustic in my music room vibrate and howl so much, I have to keep that guitar in another room.

[@TheLambLive]

Europe have been shafted for a long time. Fender's disgusting EU price fixing still doesn't get talked about. At least Mesa have finally sorted themselves out..

[@slash196]

Keep in mind that EU prices always include around 20 percent VAT, whereas US sales tax is added to the sticker price and is typically much less than that.

[@allstopblue5717]

I mean it’s not out of spite or greed. It’s just they are made in USA, then shipped over. Not to mention the VAT process adds a bit more cost than regular sales tax in America. not cheap for these companies to do what Mesa is going to now attempt. Hope it works out for them!

[@lamech006]

Fender paid a £4.5million fine in January ; the company admitted breaking British competition law by restricting retailers from offering online discounts and requiring stores to sell its guitars at or above a minimum price between 2013 and 2018.

[@slash196]

@@lamech006 Glad to see UK competition law being enforced but I'd hardly call it disgusting to require retail channel partners not to devalue your brand or undercut physical stores. It's a pretty common practice and isn't anything like "price fixing" which is when two COMPETITORS secretly reach an agreement not to sell for less than an agreed price.

[@lamech006]

@@slash196 The article I copied and pasted from calls it "UK Price Fixing" in the headline. I get what you're saying. They still broke the law. www.billboard.com/articles/business/8548948/fender-uk-price-fixing-fine-competition-markets-authority

[@jasq99]

They don’t make them in Ipswich anymore. I know cause I live here. They used to. I know few guys who used to work there. Big shame:(

[@vincentl.9469]

What this means is people are not buying them, it could mean valve amps becoming less & less popular, it could mean SS takes over !!

[@chuckwood2858]

At like 20:30 I’m watching with guitar face cause I think Pete’s tone sounds so sick, then Lee says “eh, would sound good in a mix”

[@theyearoftherat]

agree. in reality you really can't get rid of enough low end when in a mix.

[@janneelias]

When will the episode with Dave Simpson air? :)

[@andertons]

Will be out this week so stay tuned! 😉

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

@@andertons Cool !

[@alien4422]

Mesa is back along with new Gibson prices. Which means that they are very very expensive.

[@louis9150]

A Mesa Boogie tweed amp? God I need one

[@andertons]

It's the best of all worlds! 😉

[@louis9150]

@@vodkaa1 Ooh that's a tough call... I'd say go for the JP-2C if you've been wanting it for a while- you don't want to buy the tweed amp and regret that you never bought the beast that the JP is! 🤷‍♂️

[@NJSonye]

I thought the 25 watt was about as low “usable” volume. I don’t think one buys a Boogie for apartment use!

[@garyjford1981]

California Tweed - sooo need this!

[@friedkin71]

Just got one at the beginning of the week. I seriously couldn’t recommend it more 🤘🏻.

[@paolog5679]

decision made....saving for the California tweed!

[@druwk]

Had a Mark II C....BEAST in every way! Loud, cool, and HEAVY!

[@J_Un1t]

Wow y’all really dogged the Fillmore compared to every other video I’ve seen ever

[@TheBoomtown4]

I wouldn’t say the Lonestar is an unforgiving amp. I, for example, happen to suck and you can hit tweed, 50w and tube rectifier settings, all of which make an amazing, elastic, spongy, forgiving tone. Rich and warm with sparkle on the top end. I think it’s just versatile. It can be tight and in your face or the opposite.

[@andertons]

You’re one of the lucky ones. :-)

[@petdoe8938]

We need a tone king , price cut please ,

[@mechmat12345]

Now someone needs to convince Marshall to charge UK prices in the USA.

[@p6x2]

If I may recommend, as a Mesa Boogie owner from 2005, I play a Lonestar 100 Watts head, coupled to a 2 x 12 Rectifier cabinet (closed back). If you prefer open back, then you can go for a Lonestar cabinet. The Lonestar head can be equipped with either EL34 or 6L6. You just flip a switch in the back. I don't use the drive channel; I just color the tone using pedals; zen drive by Hermida, BB pre-amp, TS-808. You can just get your tone as you imagine it... And not a single issue with the Amp, all these years. Still works and looks like new!

[@PatatoKeftes]

That LP sounds incredible. I mean, all the way back from when you did the "Most expensive Les Paul vs the cheapest Les Paul" video, darker LP finishes sounded more open, woody, spanky. The only lemonbursts that sounded as good were the "Nicky" and the "Bradooka" collector's choice ones. I know it's coincidence and subjectivity and randomness and chaos involved but you should do a ridiculous video "Do darker bursts sound better?" Btw that Mesa tweed is an absolute dream.

[@jbbourbon178]

I feel like if they’d put the Fillmore on the floor they would get that low end they seem to be missing.

[@johnfritzenjr.1240]

Everyone thinks Mesa are metal amps! Lol

[@pabcrane]

Very nice, but are they as good as the Cab Clone?

[@gooberthoreau]

Soo... now there is just 1 middleman, Andertons, then?

[@andertons]

Bless....

[@abitoutofsorts]

Boogie stuff is worth it.

[@johnnyguitar-uu3zr]

Hi, what do you think > harmony h620 tube combo amplifier VS. mesa boogie California tweed 6 ??? Harmony is 1/3 rd. of the price of the mesa is it worth it ????

[@Andromahlius]

The boogie distributor in Europe was especially greedy, too.

[@littleblackcloud86]

This is good news, the previous pricing for Boogie gear was ridiculous.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

"NeW LoW pRiCe!1" It's still Mesa money 😅

[@lecorsaire2283]

Well they are hand built. They still offer boutique quality without the boutique price at least in the US before this change. You can see and feel it immediately once you touch one. Everything feels more solid and rugged compared to a run of the mill Marshall or Peavey. If you buy used they’re really a f’n great value. I only paid $500 for a mint condition straight Traditional 4x12 from a friend.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

Lovely amps but in the UK they are insane prices brand new. The JP2C was the equivalent of over 4500 USD when they came out. It's still 3750 USD now! On the used market though, they can be great value.

[@MofosRealReviews]

Great for the classic old guys but what about us metal heads ??

[@jebusgod]

Mesa Price comes down but still too expensive for 99% of people who play guitar, they sound great though but what doesn't when you have a fantastic guitar player like Pete playing it and a fantastic guitar and amazing pedal board. Be interesting to see what a cheap squire sounded like through one

[@lecorsaire2283]

They’re all made by hand with American labor. That’s why even the Mini Rec is $1249. It’s also due to inflation. Twenty years ago these were the prices for the Rectifiers in the U.S.: Single-$1099 Dual-$1199 Triple-$1299 The Mark IV was a bit more at $1499 or so but still well under 2 grand. $1399-1499 was also the price for USA Jacksons, real ESPs and high-end Japanese Ibanez.

[@tres311]

That Cali tweed is beautiful but how many gigs before its stained to hell?

[@jamesryan1939]

I have owned 5 mesa boogie amps over the past 20 years. I wouldn't even look at another brand. I currently have a triple crown 50 combo and a subway 800 with a 2x12 cab, and they both at a 10 out of 10. I traded in my previous Mark V head and 4x12 overside cab because of size and weight after 10 years, and I upgraded my WalkAbout 15 after 15 years of service when they released the subway series. The fit, finish, QC, and sound is unmatched in any amp I have looked at in their price range.

[@jeremywillingham4774]

oh forgot lets add pedals like verb because we do not know how to play besides chords

[@shauncarling8464]

Two beautiful amps and two tasty players!

[@andrewslads]

I tried a California tweed years ago in guitar guitar . I’m not really a ‘ clean amp player ‘ but the sound of that amp was nothing short of angelic . Boosted with a blues driver it had some great fusion tones , but very airy and open and the notes had a lot of harmonic complexity . Just sounded so divine . One amp that always sticks in my mind . Would like to try it again one day .

[@bryantwalley]

that cream and tweed is sweet..

[@sheppardrj]

Still overpriced...always felt that for the price of a boogie you would expect it to be handwired.

[@hotblackdesiato3451]

Lee, the amp you're trying to recall from about 25yrs ago was possibly the Studio .22 (Best. Amp. Ever.) or the 50 Calibre.

[@paulneeds]

Hotblack Desiato I have the Studio 22. Great amp - out noised a staccato drum kit (look them up - BLOODY loud!) and a Peavey 300W bass amp with ease! Sadly, it broke down years ago and is in bits. Had someone try to fix it but it never happened, and now I’m disabled I just can’t afford the repair. :( I do use the cab part with a small amp head though..

[@hotblackdesiato3451]

@@paulneeds Sorry to hear about your situation but it's better to have owned a great (working) amp than never to have owned at all!

[@GraniteSoundtrack]

Cali tweed is a beast

[@Yohahn]

Holy crap... it's bad for me as a expensive boogie owner.. the second hand value is now destroyed a bit but still over 10 000kr cheaper now..

[@MrMaximumrocknroll]

Damn, that opening free style jam was truly one of the best.

[@celestelongway7315]

Mesa rocks! Andertons rocks! Hi from fans Michael T Wyman and 99 Hollywood/L.A. jam night jammers 2013-2019. We love your vids!

[@threndor9017]

Hey, why don't you check out Laney Ironheart IRT-SLS? It's a hybrid (tube + class D) amplifier with very cool features at a very nice price. It just seems to me that it gets no attention while offering a nice package.

[@davidcurry3999]

My mate had a MK IV and it weighed circa 50kg. He said it was either 40 or 50 watts. With the volume at 2 it drowned out my fender Deluxe 85 at max volume. It blew everything away for volume, it could easily play to 200 people without assistance. He was going through a West Coast music trip, Steely Dan, Zappa etc and sold his car for the MK IV .... ace sound and ridiculously over the top build quality. Built to work hard and be carried by roadies. .... I bet Gerry Garcia could'a ruined one without even meaning to.

[@russellmedeiros7927]

Nice Cab Clone shot Pete 😜

[@funkystudiocat]

I don’t think it is the amp that is underwhelming. You are using a LP that is designed for more of a vintage tone. Try a guitar with a more stout humbucker like an EMG 85 or Duncan JB. Great vid as usual. Blessings

[@cbfrider]

Look, an advertising. With commercials in between.

[@duncanboyle244]

Watching a guitar stores KZbin channel and expecting them not to be trying to sell something would be like watching porn and expecting there to be no sex. Just enjoy the video!!

[@cbfrider]

Duncan Boyle Sorry my point didn‘t come across. I don‘t mind this to be an infomercial, that is truely to be expected. What I meant was that it would be way more fun to watch if it wasn‘t for all these advertising breaks. I don‘t get why an advertising video needs to be disrupted by other advertising.

[@sammydemon666]

@@cbfrider Yes mid-roll adds are fairly horrible but most people just watch anyway. There are a few you tubers out there who turn them off in the name of a better flowing video.

[@Spartanm333]

Walter Trout cannot be wrong. Has played MB for maybe 30 years or so. Generally a Mk4 without the EQ (flat) - gain and sustain are his targets from a Strat. Note: the Strat has 3 single coils (traditional) although they are specials from Seymour Duncan - not sure if you can buy them. He also uses a Delaney built Strat although it has a (real) vintage Fender neck he comments. This was to replicate his number one that he didn't want to risk on the road. With this set up he rarely if ever uses pedals even with the thin Strat ( Boogie takes care of that). He will create his own volume shift by rolling the pot and tone differences with his attack on the strings (or lack of it) and where he pics the note in relation to the pickups. As he says - 'I've spent 30 years trying to learn what the guitar can do, because that's what I can control playing live' The Boogie does the rest. Note: he does get hum / buzz which is inevitable with single coils and a high gain tube amp but he wont revert to noiseless single coils (like Prince did) - he feels that the hum is part of the guitars character.

[@alejandrorangel3257]

Fillmore owners… is it too loud for bedroom levels? 😅

[@jamesclarke9957]

Nice demo chaps . What’s the likelihood of the Rectoverb 25 combos being in stock before civilisation is brought to its knees by bumbling oafs/zombie apocraplipses ? 😁

[@bluesnaggletooth1660]

Love my fender twin but I’m looking for a fat overdrive tone (as in Santana). What pedals would you recommend?