Meshuggah - Rational Gaze (REACTION!!!) Progressive Metal Tournament RD.1/GROUP B

[@peterepiscopo]

Once you're able to feel the 4/4, it becomes the grooviest music on the planet.

[@benceabraham4909]

pin this comment please! This is the truth.

[@shaurya6601]

If you see a person headbanging to a Meshuggah song in 4/4. That means they understood the groove that was lurking.

[@SchutzStaffel1989]

I think that ability is a type of intelligence ... musical intelligence ... that is why some can enjoy jazz so deeply and others cannot.

[@decx0326]

Just listen for the china symbol that is going insane the whole time

[@jamesbaird2623]

It’s the most common time signature on the planet. How can you not feel it? 90% of pop songs are written in 4/4.

[@harley720]

"Pockets of Groove." The name of Ryan's metal band when he inevitably starts one.

[@bluecomet1109]

Listen to sharks of fire by abyss

[@sonnyweidenboerner4000]

I was thinking the same thing when he said that. "Pockets of Groove" would be an awesome band name

[@Margar02]

I kinda feel like "Groove Pockets" sounds better, but it also sounds a bit more like a lounge jazz band, hehehe....

[@arkaroy213]

@@Margar02 more like funk

[@Margar02]

@@arkaroy213 yeah, probably more like it. Like jazz/funk/dance/fusion bar music. Hell, it'd probably be awesome :D

[@91DevilDriver91]

4:55 I like juice Finish your juice Filtered vitamin substance Add sorrow ice What an unintuitive light Everything is salmon Separated one fin at a time The car we set 'em up Can't break down Disaturation and no one can correct me on that ever lol

[@gamiensrule]

YES!!! I've always heard I - LIKE - JUICE!!! And it's a juice filtered like a thick substance...

[@deweytucker5413]

Man I love this! 😂

[@deweytucker5413]

We can definitely be comedy friends

[@raven_g6667]

True. That is what he says

[@ChesterRGC]

THIS IS BETTER THAN ACTUAL LYRICS XDDD

[@T1av1s]

I don't know why more people haven't requested New Millennium Cyanide Christ . That song is groovy as hell

[@BuzzaB77]

Stenga too

[@SGSEN]

You got a point right there!

[@bicboi1930]

I also have the top comment on that video. The video for New millennium cyanide christ is a MUST watch, whether you like them or not. It's heavy and groovy, and fun, for lack of a better word.

[@silentnoah]

every song is groovy my man, LITERALLY EVERY SONG.

[@unknowncrypt6956]

Especially that classic live version. NEW MILLENIUM CYYANIIDE CCHHHHRRIIIIIIIIIST

[@uppercutman]

polyrhythm; a rhythm which makes use of two or more different rhythms simultaneously. Whenever you lose your grove, keep your ear on the High Hat and Snare, there's a 4/4 playing the entire time under the more technical time signature.

[@zachgraham6543]

King Cuz Yeah, that's basically a staple for prog metal lol

[@soth1sol]

2. meshuggah, as in "this groove is meshuggah af"

[@ewatfred]

@@theterriblepuddle1830 you mean the hihat is 4/4. If one component of one instrument is playing 4/4 but all the other instruments are playing on a different cycle on the same rhythm, then it becomes a polymeter, not a polyrythm

[@yvancluet8146]

Meshuggah barely ever use polyrythmic, nor odd time signatures for that matter. Just 4/4 beats with complex patterns that don't loop every bar (usually resolve every 8 bars)

[@joshrepik]

What meshuggah does is more a syncopated rhythm. Follow the cymbals, that’s your groove. Metal plays in faster bpm, following just the snare as in most popular music isn’t as effective

[@kellamguy76]

Here a hint with meshuggah if you want to catch the groove, listen for the cymbal that sounds like a crash. A lot of their stuff is in regular 4/4 time signature and it's easier to catch if you follow that.

[@juani_bleach]

This

[@anonym0usplatypus]

Lmao didnt expect to see a GA fan here (I'm UGA student)

[@Rberg1105]

Either his left or right hand and sometimes his feet are always in 4/4.

[@willpestka2745]

Yes. There is always some part of the songs that is in a 4/4 and has other "meters" underneath or ontop

[@chrismoore7882]

I think the cymbal name is a China symbol. He has an old irreplaceable China. Per a gear video I watched.

[@davidthegoat8075]

Nothing better than coming home after a long day, cracking open a cold one and watch some Lost in Vegas

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

I left beer case in the garage last night so I'll have to settle for "Cowboy-cold." Lol

[@rud3m3chanical]

Literally doing EXACTLY that. So good.

[@jesswise8680]

@@rud3m3chanical same!

[@daniboi2457]

The eerie sound that you hear in the background of their music is a guitar

[@jametowne]

Yup and it can be called a "drone". Blackwater Park featured it a lot as well, same with Demiurge

[@rev1ction]

Might be being done with an e-bow. Maybe.

[@YohnTheViking]

Yeah, as far as Meshuggah is concerned that's pretty much the guitar solo

[@remnant24]

It's a unison note. Just play a power chord shape while muting the middle string-nothing more to it.

[@RiverNihil]

its usually a tube they use to blow on the strings instead of plucking called a talk box

[@brianlee8714]

It's funny to watch these guys gradually turn to massive metalheads :3

[@gbrl433]

Angelos K. lmao yet you don’t understand a bit of hip hop

[@MrBaronCabron]

@Angelos K. chill out lmao

[@rustyjames1727]

@Angelos K. 🤔

[@thehanukkandor590]

@Angelos K. nice bait

[@WLTRMOTTER]

@@gbrl433 ok then watch the current charts and all that total garbage music.

[@whiskerbiscuit6674]

The secret to Meshuggah is the drums are almost always in 4\4. Follow the drums if you want the groove. Particularly the Cymbals

[@willsullivan883]

Yes, i was actually going to say something relative to that

[@BillKilmerslayer]

Eeeeeeeyup

[@santerisalmivuori3872]

To this day, after all these years being introduced to 'Huggah, as me and my friends like to lovingly call it, I'm still convinced that Haake is 2 people combined playing those damn drums. Never cease to amaze me how those legs work, man.

[@jesswise8680]

I can’t really hear the symbols

[@jhfoxen7941]

follow the china

[@norwaydude96]

The thing about Meshuggah and time signatures is that even though they use weird ass rhythms and shit, 99% of the time there's still some form of 4/4 in it to bop your head to, as opposed to bands like Dream Theater who change it up constantly. It's one of the things that I love about their music. EDIT: As an example, if you pay attention to the cymbals in this song you'll notice there's usually one on a straight beat that you can latch onto!

[@norwaydude96]

Also, obligatory "I LIKE JUICE! IT IS A TRUE FILTERED VITAMIN SUBSTANCE!" at 4:55.

[@DoomsdayDisciple]

Adrian that’s because Thomas Haake uses his rides and crashes (and a lot of Chinas) to keep the same time or to stay on beat. What’s amazing about Haake is what he can do with both feet and the other hand to work around the base time signature... he is the Kraken man...

[@punkrockprepper3704]

I love reading comments by people who understand music theory. As a long time Meshuggah fan, and drummer, I freaked when I found out their stuff is in 4.

[@MaddDogg316]

The way I like to look at it is, any odd number if doubled equals an even number. So I groove to a more 8/8 even though it's a 4/4 and it helps with the groove.

[@Stuugie.]

Except I

[@sundance1879]

if you’re struggling to keep the groove, listen for the drums!! especially the high hat and snare!!!

[@jasielrodriguez5836]

Right! The high hat stays on the groove the whole entire time

[@robdurfee6861]

Right? I always listen to Tomas to stay in the groove

[@JasonDrums24]

That's not a hi hat and this song really have no groove

[@disturbed1589]

Trashy china

[@dvdthomas10]

He usually leaves some bread crumbs on the top half of the kit for you, if you get lost. Until he decides he wants to throw you off of the rhythm completely.

[@scottwagner2303]

Blessed to have seen Tool and Meshuggah's tour together. Utterly brilliant show.

[@steverobertson3980]

SAME HERE BROTHER!!!!

[@RippinWaxWithMo]

Twice for me! Great shows!

[@InSatanWeTrustx]

Same here brother!! Kids just don’t know

[@eyesofobsidian]

2002 right? I’m so jealous I didn’t see them on that tour. I think they are both playing at an American festival later this year.

[@Kaiserschadel]

@@eyesofobsidian Chicago open air festival May 2019. Tool Meshuggah and Gojira in one show!

[@thatsamorais584]

New Millennium Cyanide Christ is definitely more accessible than rational gaze IMO. This song is incredible though. The sheer stamina, the build up of the drums, crisp guitar timing,... the climb of it all is like being in a rocket ship with g-force pressing against your face.

[@TheMajesticFreak]

Their live recorded performances are even better.

[@sleepwalker3520]

New Millennium Cyanide Christ is by far one of my favorite songs of theirs, followed or on par is Future Breed Machiene To be honest that album is next level

[@HPalternetive]

Alex Morais I say you should just shove catch 33 in to their mouths, definitely their more “normie” album

[@HPalternetive]

Sleepwalker Chaos sphere or destroy erase improve

[@sleepwalker3520]

@@HPalternetive haha oops both to be fair

[@BloomerzUK]

I LIKE JUICE! It's a true filtered vitamin substance!

[@LITTLEFOOT918]

I've always heard that, but is that the actual lyric? I've been too stubborn to check and don't want to ruin it for myself.

[@tumaebacon2490]

@@LITTLEFOOT918 Our light-induced image of truth Filtered blank of its substance As our eyes won't adhere to intuitive lines Everything examined, Separated, one thing at a time

[@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo]

I like juice! It is a true filtered vitamin substance! And fried rice, rolling in German, German egg whites! Everything is salmon, separating one fin at a time!

[@Midnight-Reason]

@@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo I hate you... So much..

[@juicebox4345]

Mhhmm

[@daveb2057]

Those blank stares during the guitar solo were hilarious.

[@billhicks8]

"bad command or file name"

[@regolithia]

To be fair that solo was a bit odd hahah

[@blakebeckmann2598]

Hahaha the struggle bus

[@varunrajnair875]

@@regolithia It comes from the Allan Holdsworth school of guitar playing. Thats some alien shit right there.

[@MrChoobsabre]

Chernobog discordant kind of melodies will do that

[@lespaulgothstud]

ya'll gettin' caught with that polyrhythm lol. the groove is there the whole time but the 2nd rhythm on top is ... well obscuring it.

[@briansteele1992]

Polymeter...

[@heavyglassglass]

If you listen the rythm goes like bau wom, bauwombau woom, baubau bauwom ... baaa, ba ba bau wom, baua baua, ...... etc. Once you pick it up you can groove to this all day

[@Divine_R]

heavyglassglass no i think it’s more wom bau wom bauuuwomm wom bau beep boop squiggly doop

[@TheRealAb216]

Polysaccharides?

[@jonaristefansson]

My man Burr sums it up kzbin.info/www/bejne/foSckKNtr7N0ibM

[@somegeezer]

Those long drawn notes in the back are one of the guitars. A signature element of many Meshuggah tracks.

[@grunt7783]

Lmao “Train is never late” perfection for everything Meshuggah

[@rickb6149]

"...it's crazy shit from start to finish..." Kind of like Meshuggah.

[@kennethstephens751]

"You set us back" LOL I love you guys!! Keep up the great work you two.

[@ReignSurvives]

LOL

[@Mikepun51]

4:56 "I LIKE JUICE!!!!!" Can't unhear that. :-)

[@derpherpula592]

"I LIKE JUICE!! AND IT'S THE TRUTH!!"

[@crowing3886]

I LIKE JUICE!! IT IS A TRUE FILTERED VITAMIN SUBSTANCE!!

[@jasafraga]

Love that part

[@nunchucktaylor3488]

He actually is saying eyeline juice. Even weirder.

[@Margar02]

Hahahaha, that's great. I'll never unhear it, and that's ok :)

[@spotifyuser4527]

I used to watch you guys when you were below a 100K subscribers. Now I come back and I see you're closer to 1 Million than ever. super proud! great content!

[@hermanmelville3871]

Fun Fact: Tool brought Meshuggah on one of the first North American tours at the specific request of Danny and Justin specifically so the two of them could watch the rhythm section of Meshuggah live to see what they could glean.

[@mikaelhauk]

You guys should've done "Straws Pulled at Random". That's the best Meshuggah song ever.

[@AlkaC9]

I was thinking the same, it would've been nice

[@RyanRizzo79]

if there's trouble catching the groove on gaze, straws would be... well, grasping at straws

[@DC33879]

*AGREED*

[@deweytucker5413]

Knut Mikael Haukeland hell yes!

[@HPalternetive]

Knut Mikael Haukeland *THATS YOUR OPINION* I mean I like mostly “shed” and except the start of it it’s not the most unique song. *BUT THATS MY OPINION*

[@PK-on9vj]

Most meshuggah songs are in a 4/4 signature like every pop song lol...its all about the polyrhythms bro

[@lespaulgothstud]

if they bob'd to that hi-hat they'd have that groove they are looking for ;) but they keep jumpin' on that snare

[@Bablobiggins]

@@lespaulgothstud looooool, every time

[@briansteele1992]

Polymeters actually. Clocks is a perfect example of the majesty of Messuggah.

[@Stuugie.]

Then they come up with I

[@Audard]

The crash cymbal is usually 4/4 m8. The rest is pi divided by 0.

[@mmus321]

Black man here. I just want to say, if you study music and have an educated understanding of progressive metal, you quickly abandon that idea that black folks are the ones with all the rhythm. Bands like Meshuggah have ten times more rhythm than your average hip hop or r&b artist, period. The pocket is very much there, but it requires a stronger sense of rhythm than your average head bobbing 1, 2 step track.

[@poetrykrowe]

Thank God you said this. It's so true. I don't hate on r&b or hip hop but i recognize that they have a very shallow understanding of rhythm and groove.

[@marrydruli]

Yeh but I had a blast like I rarely do at a metal festival last week when Living Color was playing. The groove on those guys..

[@AanandJoshi]

J Q what about Tosin Abasi tho

[@poetrykrowe]

@@AanandJoshi has more Rube rhythm than any man alive

[@Flokoli1]

I'm not a metal head and I think the rhythmical structures are just different between the genres, no need to try to make a competition between each other. The rhythmics in each type of music don't serve the same purpose

[@Kabz8]

This bangs soo hard Live. Meshuggah live is an otherworldy experience.

[@TastyChevelle]

Kinda boring song structure though, right?

[@Kabz8]

TastyChevelle depends who you ask. I see Meshuggah as an archetypal band that incorporates technical and heavy elements. Harmony and melody arent a big part of their songwriting. Their music is primal and hypnotic and you almost end up in a trance. I seldom listen to a lot of their stuff on heavy rotation though Ive heard it all. The live show is more about the experience even if you arent a fan.

[@postrockforthemind128]

Go see Sunn 0))) live dude

[@Daniel-td3ke]

Meshuggah is like one of those optical illusion photos in which you see either a rabbit or a duck depending on your focus. Once it clicks for you, the grooves all sort of revolve around that pulse created by the hi hit and snare and it doesn't sound disorientating at all.

[@cjcal2674]

Good analogy!

[@cjcal2674]

Good analogy!

[@cjcal2674]

Good analogy

[@Dk_Linn]

What I appreciate more than anything about you guys is that you don't force yourself to enjoy something if you genuinely aren't feeling it. Even if the fans love the hell out of the song. I know with every video you guys are being 100% honest about how each song feels to you. I think too many people feel obligated to like something just because it has a huge or rabid following. If Meshuggah's not your thing I totally get it.

[@osuunaftmath]

hilarious video. "maybe it`s my ethnic background" had me laughing out loud.

[@chrono_s9699]

Would have been better if it were Gojira vs Meshuggah instead of Tool vs Meshuggah

[@bobthebear1246]

True

[@ElectricMonkey99]

I think Mastodon would be a better matchup for Gojira

[@69moparty]

We already know Gojira is winning this whole Prog Tourney.

[@jaredheckel360]

Call me crazy but when I hear Meshuggah I think scary Tool

[@cobraimploder]

@@jaredheckel360 Funny you should say that. Tool is the scary Tool.

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

Lol your commentary just hilarious. If you're gettin dirty with your girl prog metal is probably not the genre you're going to put on for background music lol. Unless you some real freaks.

[@LostInVegas]

lol!

[@manojjaiswal901]

Used to play Bleed at that time 😅

[@sobo2001]

That's some advanced class shit. Us mere mortals might suffer ligament damage or even dislocation with continued clock guesswork.

[@manojjaiswal901]

@@sobo2001 Haha. Weird fantasy but I made it come true 😄

[@alessandropuddu1279]

I played whole obzen once while gettin dirty with my girl

[@JStarwarz]

MY GUYS! I appreciate your channel so much! as a person that loves Metal, Rap, Folk, EDM, and so on. with prog metal the best way to head nod to the beat is to follow the snare drum. it makes life so much easier, the nodding gets faster and slower throughout the song but following the snare drum makes it, for lack of better words make sense

[@MrTique-ux8ob]

Sirs, the entire point of Meshuggah is to find the 4/4 beat, the one you can headbang to. After you find that point, the rest of the song circles around your head in a manner that you can only visualize. imagine the beat as a series of lights circling around your head as you do the 4/4 headbang. You'll notice that the lights pulse at odd places around your head, but the more you listen to it the more familiar you get with how the lights pulse around your head. Meshuggah's riffs are super duper long, and you need to have an understanding of the whole thing before you can appreciate it. One of Meshuggah's riffs takes place on an extremely long scale of beats, which means that the whole thing is lost if you cannot hold that complex rhythm in your head. This is not the talk of an elitist, this is simply advice for those of you that are not Meshuggah fans. It's like a complex whiskey: it takes time to tease out its complexity.

[@Nebuloid1]

Perfect description right there !

[@yessir6427]

ugay

[@WebsterA]

Rational Gaze was their first hit with low tuning. It made it on Headbanger's ball. That's it. That's why people love it. Do Not Look Down is their most accessible. Damn it, voters. Lol

[@kez850]

That first Headbangers Ball album opened my eyes to the whole damn metal scene. Definitely my gateway album during the highschool days!

[@BANGOUTL8R]

Yea Do Not Look Down is probably their grooviest and most accessible. I can actually dance to that song lol

[@jhamilton1007]

Their whole self-titled album, which was more in the vein of Metallica sounding Thrash.

[@Bablobiggins]

I would love to see their reaction to Future Breed Machine

[@SKULLEDBUICK]

Bro, I'm sayin'. Koloss in general is pretty great. Do Not Look Down, Demiurge, Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion are pretty easy to groove with. There's also New Millenium Cyanide Christ. That kinda is, too.

[@armstrong2052]

Love it guys! The new layout background is legit. Congratulations.

[@Norman-Bates]

You want pockets of groove Ryan, PANTERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Trepanation21]

GEORGE! //Yall are great, love this channel-// ITS DEMI-URGE. DEMI. URGE. DEMIURGE. DEMIMOORE. URGE. DEMIURGE. It's taken me a bit to warm up to the new setup, but I'm enjoying it! And I love that you guys are continuing to stay focused and innovative on how you're consuming these songs and spending time with them. Stay true, stay free, all love.

[@ZzPOLISHzZ]

It's definitely easiest to follow the cymbal for pacing of the song to bob your head to versus trying to follow the guitar, especially if you arent regularly listening to meshuggah

[@cloneboy42]

The thing with listening to Meshuggah is that in order to keep the groove, you have to focus on the beat the cymbal is playing. 99% of the time with Meshuggah, the cymbal is playing a simple 4/4 beat at a consistent tempo throughout the song. The guitars and the bass drum are the ones playing and switching between many different unconventional time signatures, so if you focus on those instead of the cymbal, you lose the groove.

[@ryanlynd8832]

For all that's sacred and holy in the world... Meshuggah - Future Breed Machine

[@salmonero6472]

Yes !! 🤘

[@billhicks8]

Yeah or Soulburn, just something older that has their more traditional sound

[@Audard]

Eh, FBM has not aged well. Maybe save that as a last hoorah.

[@FrVallC59]

@@Audard the hell you're talking about

[@redcassette]

ive suggested it so many times. thats easily the best track to introduce meshuggah to anyone.

[@Benobot99]

Meshuggah! Glad to see 'em on this channel again.

[@BryceRogers]

I love that you can see them slowly catching that groove as they listen. They didn't quite get there with the chorus but once you catch it that part is one of the grooviest riffs of all time imo.

[@givemeajackson]

it's so fascinating to see you guys trying to process this, looking for the groove when it starts tripping up, thinking you've found it to realise you didn't... i was exactly the same, it took me years to really get meshuggah, and multiple listens on the songs of course. i'm getting a timelapse of that process in your videos, and i see myself in that. love your positivity, love how you can articulate what you hear and feel, been bingewatching your stuff. cheers, keep up the good work, hope your perspective can get me into some more different music.

[@AcesulfameGaming]

LOL at 5:28 George peeking over at Ryan and smirking cause he stopped head banging had me deaddd omg

[@mellindrums]

This song has a constant 4/4 groove like most Meshuggah songs. Just headbang to the leading cymbal (hihat, china or crash) and you're good. I'd also argue that Do Not Look Down is the most accessible song of theirs.

[@ReignSurvives]

agreed. Do Not Look Down is just fun

[@Audard]

That's a good argument.

[@cygnusl.a4180]

Please do a reaction for the Mars Volta !!! Frances the mute Tetragrammaton Ourobourous Etc .

[@Aaron-ui9tj]

Or Drunkship of Lanterns.

[@djspyd2000]

Yeah the Mars Volta would be great then they could do At the Drive in

[@joystick2212]

Cavalettas is by far my favorite Mars Volta gig... I'd love to hear them react

[@johnborat3113]

Finally... Finally... Cassandra Gemini... 30 minutes version.. XD

[@nikki-lx3yf]

should do something they could more easily vibe to at first. i think l'via would be a good choice

[@Knochenbrigade]

The eerie sound is also a guitar. it's kind of the band's trademark now.

[@danutd94]

Ryan listening to this looks like me as a kid when my parents dragged me round a museum all day

[@ProgPro96]

A good tip for you guys to get into the groove of a song with odd time signatures, follow the drum patterns. Especially when it comes to Meshuggah, the drums really hold the songs together groove-wise. If you guys do Meshuggah again Future Breed Machine is a lot more thrashy and I think you'd enjoy it more than this.

[@CountryRockAndRoller]

Yes! Meshuggah is my favorite band of all time. I'm actually going to see them May 6th. Also, you should do Hail the Apocalypse by Avatar.

[@dandandy1863]

Meshuggah live is absolutely worth every second! I've seen them live twice, and gonna be seeing them live twice again this year :D

[@samwalton5780]

Yes I love avatar!! Saw them live 2 years ago and plan on seeing them again in a few months. Very underrated band

[@CountryRockAndRoller]

@@samwalton5780 I saw them back in October. They were awesome, I'd love to see them again.

[@CountryRockAndRoller]

@@dandandy1863 I can't wait to see them. Tomas Haake is like my favorite drummer of all time.

[@poseidonskiss4271]

bruh that or bloody angel

[@geordihills]

I know you've already reacted to Periphery twice, but their new 16 minute long epic "Reptile" of their latest album is the ultimate progression of their sound. It flows extremely fluently and does not feel at all long when you listen to it, I'm sure you'd enjoy it way more than Stranger Things.

[@WynterWoods]

I feel like they’d actually really enjoy “Crush” from the latest Periphery release.

[@Kidzelda0]

My experience with that song was quite different. I found it to be an interminable slog. So it goes, eh?

[@imast5112]

Reptile is amazing but I still think they need that one song to finally get into them. Blood eagle, masamune or flatline I think would be great for them

[@reconn7]

Blood Eagle would make them bounce their heads

[@LuthienC]

Watching you two react to this is so eye opening. Hear me out. It's so much sound, a wall, and what you're both able to pick out of it is seriously interesting because it forces me, and I bet other metalheads, to hear it differently. I think by the time most of us get around to Meshuggah, our ears do hear it completely differently. I bet very few people got into Metal with their first listen being this band.

[@FloridaMan28]

POCKETS OF GROOVE!!!! Lost in Vegas should really go see some of these insanely good Metal bands live! I wanna see the reaction to the Live show!

[@taknie1757]

One word guys: Combustion That is as straight forward as I've heard them, take that from someone who isn't a fan, trust me. But it goes hard and it will hit you like a freight train, and you'll break your neck going nuts headbanging to it. Forget what all the fans say and do that one.

[@handlechar568]

I heard there is actually some weird rhythm thing even in that song. Like the cymbals are dragging a beat off the guitars or something.

[@taknie1757]

@@Salomon_G yeah they don't seem to, but at least they could grasp it easier.

[@taknie1757]

@@handlechar568 it's still much easier to get into.

[@OmegaBlacc]

@@handlechar568 Combustion is mostly straight forward thrash but theres a section at the beginning and end where they throw in a completely unrelated groove. If you miss the 1 when it kicks in, the song sounds massively fucked up. Compare the studio version and the live version from the Alive album. I think the Alive version is how it's "supposed" to sound. There's also a video on KZbin where someone added a metronome. People comment that it completely altered how they heard the music. I can hear it both ways now. Lot of work for one song but it's Meshuggah. They're worth it LOL

[@OmegaBlacc]

@@handlechar568 Yeah that metronome changes everything. Haha

[@EggersEggers-pd6te]

MESHUGGAH: BREAK THOSE BONES WHOS SINEWS GAVE IT MOTION.

[@smokey4737]

ALL THE GROOVE!!!

[@sarahssentongo2587]

yesssssss 🙄

[@ryangroom2959]

A A A A A A A H H H H H H Y E A H

[@jonajon91]

Either that or combustion

[@DSoverPSP]

That one always reminds me of some giant otherworldly creature lumbering through a dark cavern or something somewhere. Probably one of my favorites by them

[@demonstosome3746]

"Oh, you think we're safe?" Classic. I appreciate how you gents go back to the "crazier" side of metal that you know you dont like but keep trying anyway, cheers.

[@michaelbashford2733]

I think they just respect the genre even if they don't necessarily like it. I have a friend very much not a metal head but if he's hanging with me and I put some on he'll often make comment on a cools groove or a crazy solo for example.

[@leethibidaux1641]

It's crazy y'all picked these two bands. They toured together back in 2002

[@YersinisPestis]

Found you guys out a couple of days ago and binged all your metal reactions. I can't get enough. Lovin' the videos and I love the progression you guys have had throughout your metal videos. I don't think you guys have covered any black metal. I would love to see a reaction video of Dimmu Borgir (A Norwegian black metal band) - Serpentine Offering or Prodigies of Great Apocalypse. Cheers

[@deadly5135]

Animals as leaders Physical Education or Kascade

[@zachcampbell3229]

Jordan Dwyer or soraya or on impulse

[@tztee]

..no do mind spun or woven web..on impulse is more the dude on the lefts liking

[@daniboi2457]

Brain dance would be good too

[@deadly5135]

Daniel Guijarro agreed

[@ryancheney2761]

Physical Education, Kascade, or Brain Dance... ANY of those would've been a better choice than CAFO- from a groove standpoint on those first two, and from an accessibility standpoint on all three.

[@julieta3965]

GOJIRA! GOJIRA! GOJIRA! They're playing at Brixton Academy, in June. London, UK

[@patking1225]

They already love Gojira.

[@aaronbrown2343]

there's a 4/4 groove there to bob your head to the whole time underneath the groove that's throwing you guys off, listen to the crash cymbal in the background for your head bob groove

[@checkogtv17]

Meshuggah is just pure 🔥 period everything they release is good thanks for showing meshuggah some love they are extremely gifted musicians

[@johnpierce1706]

When grooving to Meshuggah you’ll notice that when you nod your head up, then down, and an extra step is added during a transition, you’ll begin nodding in reverse to the upbeat. Most of their songs follow a 4/4 time signature thru the crash cymbal and vocals.Tool is capable of this in several songs as well. Loving the new format guys. Keep em coming.

[@spanzotab]

The whole song was played over an even signature with the open hats and cymbals, so kinda frustrating to see them not able to catch the groove lol.

[@matiasquinteros6544]

dude i'm a true elitist metalhead and can't catch this groove

[@exitspree]

@@matiasquinteros6544 wtf is that supposed to mean?

[@ReignSurvives]

Yeah, I'm not sure why people struggle to catch the groove. Well, actually, I think it's because they are fixating on the element that is creating tension in the phrase. In old jazz it would be the off color note that gives the tension release, in Meshuggah its a rhythm that lays over the top that gradually "goes out of time" then comes back. In actuality it fits perfectly but it gives the weird feel and I think during early listens its hard to let those parts be just parts of the whole instead of the main element. As soon as they just chill with it, they will be bobbing their head all the way through this track

[@matiasquinteros6544]

@@exitspree It means just that, i´ve listened to metal for 10 years and i have a hard time keeping the rhythm of this song

[@OmegaBlacc]

It sounds to me like they get caught up in the sound of the notes instead of following the patterns and the rhythm. Meshuggah notes bounce all over the place but the patterns remain consistent. Even when that "revolving time signature" thing happens if you keep headbanging in 4/4 you'll eventually meet back up with the song. They haven't listened to enough Meshuggah yet. New Millennium Cyanide Christ would have ruined their day LOL That song was my intro to heavier metal and I told my friend that his CD was skipping. He's like "Nah they do that on purpose." Been a fan ever since.

[@SangramTawade]

Tool - Pushit (Salival Live)

[@luketrott8259]

Sangram Tawade yes 👍🏻

[@Tool_jira_shugg]

Lmao the synchronized *BUDABUM REER BUUMM REER* @ 9:27

[@DSoverPSP]

Need a 10 hour loop of that

[@A_Voice_In_The_Ocean]

What a great format for reaction videos! well done good souls

[@melvingira]

Two iconic albums covers right there!

[@LivingInTheKaliYogurt]

This song is best while wrecking grannies in shuffleboard at the retirement home!

[@jeffsullivan1678]

Stare em down to this lol

[@tannerpayne5817]

😂☠️

[@spladam3845]

I like the sound system guys. Good to see you guys moving up! Also, Tool won

[@tretre3892]

Word!

[@kelzpinero9293]

Love messugah but yeah TooL all the way....

[@jessedominguez543]

Not a fair fight. Tool is the king of this genre. Give them the title already

[@50Jman06]

Jesse Dominguez it's not band vs band it's song vs song

[@bobthebear1246]

Aenima beats this shit hands-down.

[@tidusx665]

I hope the next meshuggah song you listen to is Future Breed Machine! It's so much more accessible for you!

[@glfsadh]

still on of their best!

[@Angel092603]

Spasm is way more accessible

[@HPalternetive]

Josh Kuchmy The minds mirror is totally accessible Dude

[@THEshaggyrogers]

Bruh that breakdown though will kill them

[@Lokrion]

I would consider 'New Millennium Cyanide Christ' as Meshuggah's most accessible track despite the more busy sounding riffs.

[@philipfletcher1677]

Lol no way, this one or do not look down maybe

[@kybamclane9357]

Demiurge is their most accessible. Simple groove, easy riffs that resolve every 8 bars, nothing too technical. I don't know what you're on about NMCC though, like that song has syncopation all over the place its almost impossible to follow.

[@jarljensen4016]

tool and meshuggah is so different in the style of music so putting them against eachother is so wierd and you should have made meshuggah against gojira because the style of the music and genre.

[@Caseyw462]

@discordant dancers this is definitely rockin but Tool is just on another level, man.

[@into_the_void]

Shugga and textures... C'mon..

[@Angel092603]

Tool and meshuggah tour together a lot tho. They are both polyrythm gods

[@jarljensen4016]

Still difficult to put their stile up against eachother, tool is much more spiritual minded and they have a groove on another lvl. Meshuggah and gojira is much more simular with their stile so its difficult to see who is the Best, it really depends on What stile you like. I like tool so much more than meshuggah but meshuggah compared to gojira is hard, that Would be a much better Challenge, ive seen meshuggah live and they play very Well and the Music is good.

[@oldrigenovy]

Tool and Meshuggah have toured together before and they've spoken about influencing each other. Gojira is just over rated

[@OpentheEyeProduction]

This song has nothing but groove. Every second of it is "headbobable" and amazing!

[@Ujjval1002]

Tool - Right in Two... One of the best songs of Tool... Check it out guys!!

[@rhondathibodeaux191]

Ujjval Sharma this is just not a competition 🙄 different styles, Tool has substance

[@mattcampbell4150]

The lead guitarist for this band fredrik thordendal has some amazing stuff. Tracks like 1-5 of Special Defects are sick.

[@sethdunlap9868]

This song is like finishing a puzzle.... ALL feels so right and than the last piece makes you elated in its perfection.

[@lordrochitas8847]

In my experience I had to see Meshuggah live to truly see what they were about and what they wanted me to feel musically. Their groove is second to none if you sit back and bop your head to the cymbal.

[@DMSpikes1987]

You guys would LOVE Chimaira!!! Plenty of conventional breakdowns I think you'll really like.

[@gerrybegnoche1561]

Pictures in the gold room!

[@DMSpikes1987]

@@gerrybegnoche1561 that's one of my favorites!

[@gerrybegnoche1561]

Really anything off that album is amazing. I've smoke many a blunt rocking that shit out on the route! Oh the memories... kinda lol

[@Myfartslinger]

Daniel Mendoza unearth or parkway drive

[@DanHarkinz99]

Frozen in time

[@carmenmendoza9592]

-."COMBUSTION" -."DANCERS TO A DISCORDANT SYSTEM"

[@toxrev4526]

in my opinion Do Not Look Down is their most accessible song. vocals and everything sound different just makes it more accessible to me

[@Jablan11]

"Its crazy shit from start to finish" Laughed so hard at that,love you guys

[@RC15O5]

Been meaning to give Meshuggah a listen. Thanks.

[@jacobmarsh4829]

When trying to groove with meshuggah, just Bob your head with the cymbals. It's always incredibly groovy in a weird way. You just groove the cymbals and the the guitar go wherever it wants. The cymbals are almost always straightforward.

[@laserlobotomy]

If you think this is good, listen to something by Car Bomb off of their album "Meta".

[@whatsup914]

That's actually like my favorite album. 2nd place is basically everything by Gojira. Not everything from Meshuggah sticks with me but I like the Contradictions Collapse album and The Violent Sleep of Reason album from them.

[@OmegaBlacc]

LOL They not ready for Car Bomb. I'd love to see that video though because their ears are getting better and better for metal.

[@skinblanketed]

Gratitude would be a good starting point for Car Bomb but I'd love to see them dive into Secrets Within or Lights Out!

[@whatsup914]

@@skinblanketed The Oppressor is a good one for them to check out too. It's pretty calm at parts but instantly reverses a few times. It would be fun to see their reaction. That or Black Blood would be pretty cool imo.

[@OmegaBlacc]

@Brian Prior Any of their albums are essential. They are elite.

[@shadic277]

I’d love to see them make a super long video reacting and reviewing “I” by meshuggah

[@marrydruli]

This is my ultimate relaxation song. At full volume it clears every thought or worry.

[@tommortlock5341]

I feel like this is one of their easier ones to groove too tbh so I was surprised you couldn't catch it at the start but all good, you appreciate the work involved

[@kdllac]

"I like juice, filtered vitamin substance" Misheard lyrics

[@kyleroliver2143]

Since you guys are doing a lot of prog you should include Haken-puzzle box

[@TheBrunarr]

It's actually not an odd time, its 4/4, they're just able to make it sound like it. Good writing!

[@FGirao]

They thinked the same about blackwater park. They just dont know yet what is odd time signatures

[@johndominique]

I love the thoughts at the beginning - like how the initial odd timing was weird to get into. This is probably everyone's initial response to this song, and then once you get it, and start it over you can really appreciate it. I bet if they restarted once they got into the tempo they'd have felt different

[@JustusVidyo]

seeing them live is also helping understand that there clearly is a groove underpinning all their songs. i dont even know many bands taking the headbanging so faar as they did a couple albums back.

[@TheRealAb216]

I like juice, its a cold filtered vitamin substance.

[@deweytucker5413]

Now that’s funny

[@jerimiasweed7006]

Everything is salmon separated one fin at a time

[@sergioagra3846]

Swedish love juice its good to know

[@DeFFicationISgolD]

The first riff grooves (including the song as a whole) AF!! You just gotta listen to the drums!! Everyone is saying it

[@optimus]

1:57 lol odd time signature.... its literally in 4/4

[@DC33879]

Glad someone else realizes this 😂

[@matiaslopez7713]

You need to study a little bit more. It is an odd time signature. It doesn't depend of the numbers, it's the combination of pulse in two and three. In fact, the only thing in really 4/4, the other instruments works with polyrhytms.

[@exitspree]

@@matiaslopez7713 w r o n g

[@matiaslopez7713]

@@exitspree ok. You have all the signatures like 2/4, 3/4 and 4/4, all of them have pulses of 2 eights, for example 4/4 is 2/8+2/8+2/8+2/8, every 2/8 is a pulse. And you have signatures like 3/8, 6/8, 9/8 and 12/8, where every pulse has 3/8, so 6/8 are two pulses of 3/8, that means 3/8+3/8, by the accents you will notice that. The odd time signature are the mix of pulses of 2/8 and 3/8, for example 5/8=2/8+3/8 or 5/8=3/8+2/8. Now, that you count a simple signature doesn't mean that is exacltly like it looks, for example, in Supper's Ready is a section that 9/8 is not 3/8+3/8+3/8, it's 4/8+3/8+2/8, so thet 9/8 is an odd time signature, same thing happens in 4/4 or others. Inside that 4/4 meter that Thomas play with the cymbals, you have other rhythms, maybe polyrhythms o polimetric.

[@FGirao]

ahahahahaha they always got these wrong odd time signature songs they play normally and 4/4s they call odd lmoa

[@jruundnsayne1246]

Meshuggah keeps getting more enjoyable the more ya listen... So soothing!!!!

[@ChapsShrugged]

THIS IS what I've been waiting for!!!! Bleed is like the "Can't Buy Me Love" of Meshuggah. You guys finally get the stutter that overlaps and bounces like a nuclear pinball. I want to see these guys faces light up and melt when they figure out the rhythmic patterns of something like Straws Pulled At Random or Do Not Look Down. 😈 Just groove to the cymbal and let the melodies take you on a ride!!!