Messi vs Ronaldo as Managers

I've made Messi and Ronaldo Managers in Football Manager 2024. In this experiment we'll find out which one of the two playing legends can forge a legacy as a manager in FM24.
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[@the7reddevils304]

16:09 respect Brentford for qualifying for the UCL and getting relegated in the same season

[@redkiteplays8192]

14:27 everton did the same but europa league

[@justaguywithapowerpole]

in fm23 messi and roanldo are both caoches at granada for me

[@proscenium6590]

Once in my FM career Brentford won the UCl and played in Championship the same yeat

[@decidev]

Most normal FM team:

[@macedonianmapperawc3917]

thats bcs of u win UCL OR UEL u qualify for UCl

[@calisteezy4028]

No one noticed that at 01:00 Ronaldo lost promotion because Ronald and R’ N’do scored? 😂

[@wro2snort]

video was clearly rigged

[@ChesterRGC]

that was a cursed match 💀 what da hell

[@sasmayte]

@@wro2snortwhy u salty 😂😂

[@wro2snort]

@@sasmaytei'm not? the video was rigged

[@karterlovell2712]

@@wro2snortbro chill out it’s just a simulation

[@whiteninja00]

messi was doing his own pentagon challenge 😂

[@TomFM]

He still can't beat me!

[@haninprogamer]

game name

[@whiteninja00]

@@haninprogamer football manager 2024

[@karterlovell2712]

Lol

[@RdeCGaming]

luton with 10 points and without a win is something

[@TomFM]

The GOATS

[@zekdopa591]

@@TomFM youtube is drunk lol there are 40 replies of you saying the same thing

[@micahpickus5142]

9:33 for anyone looking

[@NoContextCommunistBoi]

@@micahpickus5142 thanks

[@justaguywithapowerpole]

in fm23 messi and roanldo are both caoches at granada for me

[@Sponjarvis]

Ronaldo managing Arsenal. Well at least an ageing Piers Morgan will finally be happy.

[@noblesavvy7803]

they got married

[@blablaproducties]

Brest dropping from 7th to 18th in a single season is a Lampard like bottlejob

[@baseupp12]

Career of perfect octuplets: Create 8 players: Two Strikers Two Wingers Two Midfielders Two Defenders This can also be a test to see if they can win a World Cup with a nation that are not even top 100.

[@jimsclahdi853]

that looks like fucking weird shit on a title

[@iem8653]

wonderful idea

[@aaronemmerson5160]

Messi won 2 continental competitions faster than you did;-)

[@micahpickus5142]

6:35 that 3-1 Arsenal win over Barcelona in the UCL final is the definition of things Arsenal fans would love to see ❤

[@Officalwerbenjagermanjensen]

I love these sort of saves. My favourite was a few years ago doing one with Robbie Keane. Started in ireland before moving to Celtic, Wolves then ending as Spurs and Irish Manager. Really enjoyed returning to former teams!

[@berri2692]

Pretty sure the general trend (irl) at least is that midfielders who take assistant/U-21 roles are better set to be managers.

[@BelieveSte]

This wasn't even close... triple back to back premier leagues and back to back champions league is goat status, Ronaldo didn't even get to sniff at that success.

[@zaki9452]

Ronaldo started in third division tho, while messi started in a big southamerican team.

[@matthewgilroy6705]

As a Newcastle fan, this video was wonderful

[@oscarlewis-perrins1343]

Could you imagine the scenes at st James for Newcastle vs Sunderland after messie snubbed Newcastle for Sunderland, that would be the loudest volume recorded at a football match ever 😂

[@listey]

Probably never going to win anything in the real world, so make sure you enjoy this one on repeat.

[@matthewgilroy6705]

@@listey a cup final appearance and champions league football with a squad that has players in from when we were in the championship. We're still fighting for Europe while decimated by injuries. I think we're gonna be fine mate

[@RK7_baller]

Messi made right choice but SAFC in irl,this is coming from SAFC fan we’re so mid atm but u can’t blame us as we don’t have a manager

[@vincentbelda1542]

Hi Tom ! Great video ! I'd like to know what is your database setup for this type of video, your detail level and such things. Thanks a lot and keep up the good job !

[@user-ox8gm7jm8q]

As a member of the Toon Army, I highly approve of this video! Cept for the ending but ah well lol

[@yourtypicalwatcher]

7:42 fiago will be happy about this 😂😂😂😂😂

[@colincolin5696]

Love the Ronaldo fans getting upset over a football manager sim… 😂 grow up

[@baseupp12]

Whos getting angry?

[@Coalitionz]

​@@baseupp12 no one, typical messi fan making shit up

[@M1dg3tGam3r]

No one is getting upset mate u jus a classic pessi fan making shit up ure the one that needs to grow up

[@colincolin5696]

@@CoalitionzI mean I’m clearly not lying, just scroll down on these comments and you’ll see people saying “rigged” or “Tom is a Messi fan” lol 😂 but apparently I’m making them up because I’m a Messi fan boy lol

[@colincolin5696]

@@M1dg3tGam3rI’m not making stuff up, again just scroll down in these comments and you’ll see people saying “rigged” lol..

[@TheDuckboys1]

You should edit the stats in a way that emulates the brains vs brawn, natural talent vs sheer determination outdated dynamic of the players

[@puffin7285]

@4:00 I don't get the dislike for super cups, to win it you have to win either the league ro the domestic cup which means qualifying for it is hard and then winning it means you have to beat another good team

[@youvebeen_miked]

13:45 what happened in that last gameweek for arsenal to go from 7th to 2nd?! 😂

[@oligarland8191]

16:08 sorry is that Brentford being relegated but also being in the UCL? that's wild

[@VillaFanDan92]

They must have won the Europa League.

[@LeoKinhg]

​@@VillaFanDan92that's the wild thing.

[@danielmkdons124]

When Ronaldo took over at Lens it looked like there was no Monaco, Lille or Marseille in Ligue 1, Marseille and Monaco only appeared again the season he got sacked😂😂

[@fifabots]

Wild concept: teams get promoted and relegated

[@mastertrams]

@@fifabots Yeah, but this is Marseille, Lille and Monaco we're talking about. This is the equivalent of Manchester City, Liverpool or Arsenal getting relegated, and not by forceful action from the governing body.

[@TheDefaultName]

​@@mastertramsEconomical problems enter the chst

[@fifabots]

@@mastertrams mate it's football manager, in one of my saves Ipswich won the conference league in 2028. Weird shit happens

[@dominik11]

cool episode, im waiting for more in that kind, for ex. Suarez vs Lewandowski

[@flak509]

That is an interesting one, I like it 😎😎

[@MiroHeinonen]

What about Zlatan vs Buffon?

[@dominik11]

@@MiroHeinonen thats a good idea :D

[@darylwilkinson6785]

Idea for a video - similar to the Pentagon challenge but with international teams. Win all the trophies, euros, AFCON, copa America etc. Then finish with the world cup

[@amethyphoenix]

0:35 must've been an editing error, as there's 9 Ronaldos, with 6 of them upside down. It's a "blink and you'll miss it" error

[@dxritq]

thanks for using newells tom

[@ivanrojt1862]

Did messi watch pentagon challenge? Sudamericana, afc and later going to europe was bizzare jajajajaja

[@colincolin5696]

Definitely do more of these vids Tom , would love to see maradonna vs pele or something like that 😂

[@Evans9ro]

Love the story telling 👍🏾

[@GETTOKNOWFOOTBALL]

me and my grandad are gonna enjoy this

[@azzygh]

Never thought of it, but is it actually possible to make players stay as coaches when they retire from being players? I just saw the role change in the beginning and thought that in my saves these two always retire completely. Without even trying to stay in the game as staff. Does the editor provide any functionality like that?

[@alf2ih457]

15:18 abdulah music has to be one of the names of all time

[@FranDascoli]

Messi doing his own Glory Hunter is funny as hell

[@EugeneRimmer]

Wasn't expecting to see Stockport in the 5th round

[@Jamesvdz]

hey tom love your vids!

[@Hashmir87]

Uhm 13:01. 6 english team in champions league insane

[@CalSN20]

love it, didn’t think his videos could get better 🎉

[@CalSN20]

fsr i always pick up my phone as tom uplods

[@Irodeyourmaupthearse]

He won't ride you mate

[@CalSN20]

@@Irodeyourmaupthearsejust being honest mate

[@micahpickus5142]

14:25 Man Utd finishing in 16th just 2 points above relegation is wild

[@micahpickus5142]

11:53 Messi w a cheeky double plus a community shield 🛡️ and a super cup?

[@mikelev3372]

Hey Tom like your work

[@midweekmike]

Great experiment 👏👏

[@BenDovet-fb4uj]

Make every single player a manager and see what happens or make every manager a player

[@973Gear]

1/2 This goes to show that (although this does not represent both what Messi and Ronaldo will do after they hang out their boots): there is a difference between *great managers* and *great players.* It's very hard to master both. *Lampard, Gerrard, Solskjaer, Henry, Van Nistlerooy* and so many more of those I failed to mention *all tried and either are struggling to find a job or in their respective leagues they're coaching, or simply gave up.* Edit: I believe there is an element of luck when it comes to managing and coaching a club at the right place and at the right time, when you have the right players in the squad in your team. *Take this opinion with a heavy grain of salt.*

[@Dack-i]

Pep?

[@Dack-i]

Xabi Alonso

[@thunderxteh8821]

Zinedine Zidane

[@nguyenductien9098]

Pep and Zidane would like to have a word

[@JossLun]

Deschamps and Beckenbauer won the World Cup as captain and manager

[@Wojtinho]

Messi slightly won this one... but Zilina making the UECL quarters in 4:28 is fire

[@connordelaney6254]

13:45 wtf from 7th to 2nd on the final day? Imagine the scenes

[@WANI157BR]

Brazilian league moment

[@healyfamily7817]

12:45 Juventus in 14th is crazy

[@your_localpond]

6:20 i think its manager of the year award

[@sdane_diop]

Newcastle player named Abdullah Music lol 😂 15:12

[@LordWay]

That one move after 2nd liverpool stint was very costly for messi. AI always do weird club moves

[@connordaly3725]

Can we get a Taarabt career play through or QPR video

[@Yorkshiregod88]

Glad Newcastle managed to provide these unknown managers a platform to win trophies

[@jamesjeffrey9630]

As a Bournemouth fan I am enjoying this save

[@justaguywithapowerpole]

u can see saudi league tbale even if u dont have thjem u can see wh ofinished first or second runenrs up

[@user-ux6oz6rj3l]

6:24 it mean alsoe best coach

[@marlonherr8013]

6:23 i'm german and your right best coach of the year

[@Yuno_Flo]

Can u please do kaizer chiefs rebuild 🙏🥺

[@petarjankovic3267]

Can you Make Reus VS Muller

[@daanverhoeven1336]

This is one no one was waiting for, but will watch to end😍

[@SOmoeononononon]

Great vid

[@svega2673]

Think messi had a slight advantage starting at bigger club. If you take that into account, I say they're even. It would be cool to see them start unemployed.

[@felipepereira7021]

cry less

[@figfigYT]

@@felipepereira7021no no he has a point tbh with how football manager works with the ai

[@Theepicgolem123]

In my current fm simulation, messi is managing at tottenham and nearly won them the league after xavi nearky got them relegated last season. Great video!!

[@Theepicgolem123]

Update: Messi got sacked lol

[@nok9979]

Sounds like Poch, was he washed up after he got sacked?

[@The_ColdEditz]

Good Video👍

[@GDNachoo]

If messi joined Newells and won them a Sudamericana it would be beyond insane

[@f1peter27]

Interesting! If you did the exact same experiment again, would the game generate identical managerial stats for them?

[@KevinHottot]

Messi going for a kind of pentagon challenge is hilarious

[@trevorphilips5252]

When Messi went to Napoli his rivals did were just behind them

[@DavyVDBogert]

Ronaldo in that first season playoff. Conceded a goal to Ronald and R. N'do. It's like he conceded to Ronaldo and Rnaldo.

[@MrReese]

0:33 Ronaldo is weaker mentally though 🤔 I actually hired Ronaldo as a youth coach in my save, he had really good stats for a beginner coach. I had Messi as a player on a free transfer for one season, I then told him to go into coaching and he said he would - and then he just retired and is now an afterthought in my save :X.

[@reoFNCS]

9:20 how did bournemouth and wolves finish so low.

[@DrZaius3141]

Messi: Working his way up. Ronaldo: Failing his way up. Seriously, how did he get more and more prestigious jobs despite not winning anything (until he was hired by the club that already won everything before he was there).

[@macario8836]

Most probably because of his Reputation, as most of FM related stuff appears to be based on...

[@JasonCliftJones]

He's Russell Martin in disguise.

[@NUFCSuraj]

As a Newcastle fan, this was a real rollercoaster. I was picturing statues of Messi being built outside St James' Park but that little mercenary rat can forget it after going to Sunderland for absolutely no reason. Ronaldo all the way

[@zgameac4024]

Bros dreaming you will never win a trophy ever

[@RK7_baller]

SAFC THE BEST

[@realfootballers]

I just found this KZbiner and his great love him

[@TomFM]

Love you too

[@randomshotz13]

Trophy counts are always funny cause it makes an FA cup the same value as winning the UCL, Messi definitely had a better career

[@vavericaplayz4441]

Immediately liked the video and it still says 0 likes never change KZbin

[@Onebadterran]

At the time of Ronaldo's retirement, Messi was ahead. Yes Messi stuck around for another 8 years but if you just look at it when Ronaldo had retired then Messi is the clear winner.

[@randomshotz13]

Who else thought Messi was going for the pentagon challenge early on?

[@boghianvalentin7687]

Messi have more UCL as a manager, according to the logic of Ronaldo fans, Messi is a better manager 🤣🤣.

[@PortugueseEditorXD]

Cool bro but who cares Out of 173k views you only got 7 likes. Cope lmao😊

[@mrcoolguy6439]

Mate it's football manager 😂

[@Fryxey]

Love the video but hate how you pronounce "Reims"

[@harryroberts2630]

Messi in a full blow tuxedo for his manager gig 😂

[@beasteillishgaming1426]

Ur voice sounds like Josh from Sidemen 😂

[@ricgillingham8056]

Super cups are still trophies and shoyld be counted sully not to .

[@RhythmRepublic737]

How long did it take to go on vacation for so long??

[@midweekmike]

Newcastle is OP in this Save😂

[@MrSaleboss]

wait, CR7 is playing diamond control based tactic while Messi playing 442 wing style?

[@TH1RDP3RSON]

13:40 wtf was that final matchday? 37GP arsenal is 7th, 38GP they are 2nd.

[@richardgwynedd1024]

Messi had instant success as manager whilst Ronaldo took his time, you should get both of them to manage Lincoln to see who's more successful at your club

[@seanonthespectrum8724]

I really really want Messi to be Newcastle manager in the future 🤣

[@mastertrams]

Hold on... 6:02 Monaco got relegated???!!! That's a massive upset, or is surprise the better word?

[@justaguywithapowerpole]

in fm23 messi and roanldo are both caoches at granada for me

[@ronnyfenske9527]

Alright youtube I will watch this.

[@luisjesus2276]

0:51 that's the wrong emblem for Belenenses

[@saxonia_hsv]

I think that Belenses is referring to B-SAD, the database of Belenses (The real one) is named Os Belenenses

[@jurredegamer3415]

PEC Zwolle Champions League💀

[@Evolvedunsparse]

Messi managing Croatia is crazy

[@nickfury8973]

Messi going to Sunderland was the downfall… it doesn’t make any sense why he goes there. Also it is interesting neither went to manage in La Liga. Barca vs Real under these two might have been more epic. Also, Ronnie started at a disadvantage by managing a 2nd tier side with Madeira.

[@defy3591]

18:44 11 and 11 what’s going on

[@973Gear]

2/2 For anyone who disagree, please educate me on *any world-class player who transitioned to a world-class manager,* who is confident in giving the club he/she managed guarenteed continential and domestic titles/trophies. Edit: Although I am reluctant to say this: But *Zidane, Pep Guardiola and his mentor Johan Cruyff* belongs there. But very few world class players can succeed at becoming coaches. It goes to show that managing a club to win games and trophies *is a whole another ball game as a whole.*

[@BraydenLister5]

Zidane

[@bento7397]

Zidane?

[@berri2692]

Carlo Ancelotti??? Capello? Diego Simione? Antonio Conte? Roberto Mancini???? If you look at the more successful ones they've been midfielders.

[@berri2692]

I could add many many more.

[@973Gear]

@@berri2692 Please read Part 1 of my comment and a reply from one of the ppl in there before you panic. Thank you.

[@tylernewton7852]

The award Messi won in 2033 was the Bundesliga players' coach of the year award

[@loyisbinnell2399]

Messi giving me mourihno vibes

[@TapIn-24]

great video

[@TomFM]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@emmanuelnnamdi1166]

What skin does he use