Meta Quest 3 VS Quest 2 - Save Or Go All in ? ┃ visual Quality Review for PC VR

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

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[@Kevin-vg5uw]

Hey bud, just 1 simple question, I can't find anyone to give a answer to yet, on a like for like settings in game with the headset at 90hz max res what is the difference in performance in acc please, I'm very keen on one but where I'm from its very expensive and returns only accepted on default items so can't find out for myself. I know we don't run the same systems etc, but a like for like comparison will still give an indication of how much difference there is on headroom etc

[@TheGheddon]

For me, I didn’t really appreciate it until I tried it. The pancake lenses make HUGE difference, you aren’t concentrating on a sweet spot, the whole picture is beautiful. For anyone on the fence, do it, you won’t regret it.

[@SmokeyMesa]

For those on a tight budget, the Pico 4 is worth a look as well. I have an Index, Pico 4, and just got a Quest 3 a couple of weeks ago. The Quest is my clear favorite, but for Sim Racing the Pico 4 isn't far behind with it's own pancake lenses.

[@viktorianas]

Yes Pico4 is absolutely amazing for its price.

[@enjoyvride]

Q3 lenses are game changer but if you short on the green stuff Q2 are good enough to have fun.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

DK1 is where real fun is , along with rift max cinema - kzbin.info/www/bejne/amrRdnZoip2ha68&ab_channel=GamerMuscleVideos

[@Elgsdyr]

When I switched from the Q2 to Q3 I noticed an improvement in visual quality but it didn't feel ground breaking at first. But when I was readying the Q2 to sell it off I was pretty much shocked about the difference. It's massive. Also, with the Q2 I was fine with some fixed foveated rendering because the lenses blurred the edges anyway, but with the Q3 it's an absolute no go. I notice it immediately e.g. when I have to bend down in Beat Saber. I think with the Q2 (and the Rift before that) I got used to always turning my head to get the best image, but with the Q3 I obviously very quickly adapted to turning my eyes instead like in real life.

[@dathyr1]

After watching a few other videos of yours on the Quest 3 VR headset, I now own the Quest 3 plus I got a 3rd party better head strap. The visual qualities and sweet spot are so much better than my Oculus Rift S which wasn't bad, just had lower resolution. The Rift S is still my backup VR headset because it too has a nice wide sweet spot throughout the entire lens. Right now setting up all my racing games for the Quest 3, so far so good. Thanks for your videos. Take care.

[@Cerberus9c]

I got my quest 3 a few weeks ago thanks to this video convincing me to upgrade from quest 2. It really is a big upgrade. The clarity is so damn nice. I went all in AMS2 recently and did a simulated Lemans race with 4 classes for an hour. It was so damn beautiful with the sunset and blinding light down the Mulsanne straight. My only complaint is it still doesn't get dark enough for night. There is that white haze that's been around on all the older headsets.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

11:55 I have 3 displays.. an 1080/60 sony bravia TV from 2012, a 1080/185 ASUS gaming monitor from 2015, abnd a 4k/60 Asus art monitor from 2022 and I use all 3 together for different things and it works I don't feel like I missing something when switching between them.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I feel like my brain is running in slow motion and I can hear the mouse curser scrape across the screen when I use non oled monitors on other pc 😆

[@SimInVR]

The only main benefit I've noticed with the Quest 3 coming from a Quest 2 is a much larger sweetspot. Whether that is worth 500 dollars is for you to decide. Don't expect better image quality at the center. I disagree with the 1080p to 4k example in this video.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

- Larger sweet spot - Edge to edge clarity - Faster performance and handling either VD link cable - Better Pass through on double tap and maybe AR features in future to see gear whilst driving - Less warping and distortion - Wider FOV - Lenses offer sharper image in centre It's way more noticeable with good link cable settings , + oculus just dropped link update 👀👍

[@chotus69]

​@@GamerMuscleVideos just curious where can I find info on the link update ?

[@bartylobethal8089]

I'd be interested in knowing how it compares to the HP Reverb G2.

[@Pe11ePD]

I utterly enjoy Q2 for 2 years so far, mostly flight simming and driving ETS2/ATS, it's amazing even with fresnel lenses. I use link cable and max resolution in oculus app (5408px), it's quite ok. Can't imagine how Q3 looks at max res.

[@andrew-q5h9w]

Any compression when you look in the distance(blocky texture) when using the Link cable with Quest 3?

[@michahund4879]

not if you put the bitrate to 900

[@zwing300]

I've been using VR for sim racing for over 5 years now. I started with a Rift, moved to an Index. The Quest is cheaper, and apparently, the new version is pretty good visually. It's a great choice to "get your feet wet" with VR. For me, the battery makes them disposable in the long-term, and the software is trash.

[@thegamingbudies69]

One thing I don’t like about the quest three is that the lenses get scratched very easily. I’ve had mine since release, and I only clean it with the microfiber cloth, and even then I can see some scratches. Try not to clean it as much as possible.

[@grimlocked2524]

My eye doctor claims not to throw your microfiber in a dryer due to dryer sheet particles that will embed in microfiber which will in turn scratch your glasses. Not sure if it’s true but worth investigating.

[@SmokeyMesa]

I've ordered prescription inserts for mine, inserts without prescription are a good option as a "screen protector".

[@selfdestructint]

Have you tried the hand tracking in AC yet, where you can move the mirrors and apparently also use the switches and buttons in some cars?

[@JustAnotherLiamT]

Avid Quest 2 enjoyer, video has convinced me to upgrade to the Quest 3, nice well put together video.

[@-ampm-]

would a Quest 3 be more taxing on the PC than the Quest 2? If I was to swap from Q2 to !3 and keep all the same settings, load up iRacing, would the FPS take a hit?

[@AyyLmaoZedong]

Did GamerMuscle get himself a new Meta Quest 3 or something? Not totally sure

[@TechWizMaster]

🤣

[@EricW6800]

Great explanation in differences in VR tech. And for promoting VR in general.

[@tabs1913]

Super looking forward to Index vs Quest 3. I hope you take a look at how solid things feel in both headsets with their differing binocular overlap.

[@mattymatt2323]

Quest 2s sweet spot is so much bigger than the G2 & PSVR2. I need a quest 3

[@aperturescience2]

I'm tempted but it's the addons that bump the price up. face mask, head strap, prescription lens an dlink cable all add up

[@thirtytwoforty]

I upgraded to the Q3 from the Q2 and haven't looked back. Even sold my Reverb G2 because the quality on the Q3 was just as good, without the hassle of trying to run a WMR headset on a switch because I have a 4 monitor set up. Q3 is the bee's Tea

[@elgordo543]

Very nice and sincere review! What GPU is needed to run racing sims at 75 fps with the Quest 3? Cheers

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Probably 3080/ti that I have if you want consistency in most cases and ok settings.

[@elgordo543]

Thank you@@GamerMuscleVideos

[@employeeofthemonth1]

I got eyelid twitching with G2 with only 1-2 hours per week, probably because of tryijg to focus unnaturally. Im hoping these newer headsets solve this because its absolute blocker for me.

[@JasperF12]

Would you think that it’s worth selling my quest 2 for a quest 3?

[@PHOT0GUY]

I want to watch movies with the Quest 3. Does anyone know if the ghosting visible when viewing any panning or fast action in movies on the Quest 2 has been fixed? It makes watching action movies on the Quest 2 unviewable.

[@andyrachy]

thanks for the great video. you are awesome mate

[@vincenteblacker783]

Hi I’ve watched your meta quest 3 videos and was wondering if you will be doing another one with advice about the latest big update 120hz . Thanks

[@channelvr1293]

And now try racing with the crystal 🔮 bloody hell...Bob's your uncle

[@untrainedprofessionals2374]

Objects in the distance has been my issue. ACC would be the worst for it. Good on you for pointing it out. Not enough VR reviews bring this up. I'd sat its a game changer. I have been using the HP reverb G2 and the quest 3 with pancake lens is interesting. If it had eye tracking it would be a no brainier.

[@faymah20]

Thankyou for recommendations! I'm still use quest 2, i just played Freeland all the time lol

[@jackr.749]

Agreed, the pancake optics in the Quest 3 are incredible, but also the updated XR2 Gen 2 chipset is equally very good, the extra power of this chipset makes the Quest 3's compression barely noticeable especially when using Virtual Desktop, when using the PC Oculus software with Link Cable, some tweaking of the settings (Oculus Debug Tool) is requires to make it look good for sim racing, more noticeable compression until you get the settings right. Oh how I wish Virtual Desktop would have the option to use the Link Cable but unfortunately, it doesn't, so you are at the mercy of your wifi signal and how good and consistent it is. As a comparison, I would have to say the Quest 3 is very close to the Reverb G2V2, distance clarity of the G2 is little better for me but the edge to edge clarity of the Quest 3 is unreal. :) As with all HMDs, it's a matter of tweaking the setting for to what you want visually and of course your computer hardware limitations. As for comfort, it depends on a person's head and face shape, for myself, the BoBoVR M2 and M3 headstraps get the Quest 2 and 3 into the sweet spot and keep it there whereas Elite style straps do not, I have to vice grip them onto my head and they still manage on slipping out of position. LOL

[@juliantaylor1126]

Surprised and disappointed to hear distance clarity is no better with the Q3 over G2. I have a G2 and happy enough with near view - was hopping Q3 would have better long view. But I gather because VR has a fixed focal range, distance is always going to get blurry no matter how high a resolution headset you have. Much more an issue in driving games where you are always looking a few hyndred metres up the track

[@puremad1]

@ GamerMuscleVideos, I have a Question)...before I buy the Oculus Q3, What is the known min/ideal spec of PC to run these racing games you play on the Q3 headset....? Ive seen loads of videos claiming this, that, and the other..!? So, I'd like to know what you think or believe is adequate for a visually acceptable experience please 👍 As I currently have the i5 9600k with EVGA 1080Ti and I play them all on a Curved 1440p no problems. Ive recently bought the 3080 FE ready for the jump to VR racing only. Thanks

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

For VR you always want as fast as possible , but to get things to look nice with no issues and ok settings I think 3080 is probably good. I'm on 3080ti , I kinda would like even more 😆. For non Sims 1080ti would be fine as most pc VR stuff was optimized for that spec.

[@echo_endless]

quest 3 seems like the best option all around, i just wish it had face tracking, but hopefully thatll come with the quest 4.

[@DownToRace]

I’m looking at upgrading from my Rift S. One thing I’m conscious of is the added possible headache of battery life that I don’t currently have to worry about. What is the battery life like with the Quest 3. Can you get 3-4 hours out of it and how long does it take to charge? Does usually by a link cable allow for much extended playtime?

[@Sezon-xn9lp]

Hi I just bought the quest 3 after using the rift S for 4 years. I had the exact same question in my head before buying. I call myself a veteran in VR as I started way back with the DK2, and since then I only used tethered VR due to long sessions and did not want to see compression artifacts either!!! I tested the quest 2 as my brother has it and I was not happy with the results so I stayed with the Rift S. Now this quest 3 is very impressive, amazing picture quality in every possible way compared to Rift S, contrast, colours, resolution, sweetspot is fantastic. So far I love it. I tried with Airlink and Link cable too. Airlink is good and enjoyable after dialing in the proper settings and the link cable is just mind blowing for me how good it looks regardless of it being compressed first and then uncompressed and displayed at the headset. The only 1 thing is the latency... I am not sensitive for that or just simply not noticing it but it is a thing!! As I say I do not mind the increase in latency. I do not notice it, I am still fully immersed with any game I play. I am using the link cable GM recommends in his other video for the quest 3. I do not have a wifi 6e router yet so can not comment on that yet. I do recommend the Quest 3 coming from the Rift S. Huge improvements. And then there is the augmented reality option too. I find that great fun too. I am now playing Lone Echo (the first episode) as I last played it on the CV1 headset and WOW.. also replaying some of the other old original Oculus titles too. Vader Immortal, Robo Recall etc. I have a simrig too so every now and then I jump in to AC or Automobilista 2 and it is just amazing. The only thing I always saw in the Rift S is the actual pixel lines on the display itself. I could live with it but now there is literally no screen door effect with the quest 3. I can run it 1.5x rendering resolution (total of 5408x2896) at 90Hz (settings in the oculus app). Ryzen 5 3600, 16GB 3200mhz RAM, Rx 6950 XT, NVMe drive, Asus strix b-450-f gaming.

[@DownToRace]

@@Sezon-xn9lp Thanks for the detailed reply. It's amazing that there is so little published info from meta in regard to this sort of question and their customer support wasn't that useful either. I would most likely be using a link cable for any PC driven gaming as I almost exclusively use my Rift S for iRacing. In your experience, would the Quest 3 with a link cable allow for 4+ hours of use before requiring charge?

[@Sezon-xn9lp]

Hi So I will do some testing this weekend because I am curious and it could be helpful for you too. I shall test how long can I play with starting from 100% charge and plugged in using the link cable GM recommended. That cable should charge the headset while playing and should not drain the battery I believe....BUT last night I started from about 90% with the link cable and after about 2 hrs of AMS2 It was at 59%. So I think I had the brightness of the headset at max. The other day I had the brightness lower and the headset actually charged up to 100% (from 70%) while I was playing (about an hour session). I do more testing this weekend. 😉 let`s race @@DownToRace

[@Sezon-xn9lp]

I did a lot of testing I could not drain the battery completely during use. Longest I played was about 3 hours.

[@DownToRace]

@@Sezon-xn9lp not all heroes wear capes. This is excellent news.

[@TheGheddon]

Do you have a replacement face pad? The original is a bit tight horizontally.

[@daverich2499]

The quest 2 requires you to install sidequest lite (the advanced no longer works with res unlock for some reason) to unlock the true resolution of the quest 2, or higher, it is then very sharp indeed and close to the reverb 2 (ive heard). Out of the box the res of quest 2 is lowered to save on battery life. and run native games better. I use it at 2560 resolution when pc gaming, it will go to 3072 but gets hot doing it and is hard to run and is above its native.

[@jimmy-the-bear]

Great video mate, first one I have seen with some direct comparison to the Varjo Aero (which I am using). The thing I love about the Aero is how it automatically sets the IPD, is there any calibration or tool that helps you get that right on the Quest 3 given it is manual IPD?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Just move slider , because sweet spot is so wide IPD is not so important.

[@chotus69]

I thought I seen thatvthebq3 lite had been shut down due to trouble with the partner company?

[@KLA22323]

Thanks for the video, i am gonna buy a quest 3 soon. I had a quest 2 for a week from a friend and it was awesome but the quality in ACC/Dirt2.0 was not that good in my opinion. I'm running a 4080 so everything was maxed out but still had poor quality. Hope that the quest 3 is MUCH better as you're saying but we'll give it a try ^^ Cheers from Belgium ^^

[@benhlms]

Hey GM.... If you have a 12Gb 3060 GPU will the Quest 3 work OK or would you need to upgrade the PC before you can really use it? I race in ACC, AC and AMS2 typically. Wanting to get one but need to be sure it will work with my PC rather than immediately need an upgrade.

[@Cerberus9c]

Hey not sure if you already bought a Quest 3 but I'm running a 3060ti with an i5-8600k with 16GB of RAM. I just go the quest 3 a month ago. It runs really well in AC/AMS2. In AMS2 I am running a lot of the options on Ultra. I ran an hour race around Lemans yesterday with day/night cycle and 31 cars in 4 classes. I had the rare slow down, maybe 5 times in the race but it was just a blip and over. Usually when I'd hit a curb to hard or at the start. I followed this guys settings - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5vIdXRqq5ukjtk I will say I can't run No Man's Sky on VR with the Quest 3 no matter how low I set the settings. I could run it on the Quest 2 if I remember right just on low settings.

[@silvestre007]

Hey GM great video. Could you say/share what strap are you using with the Q3 ? Thanks in advance

[@MaRcIu27]

why no one talks about input lag? I fear if it noticeable when you move your steering wheel and in headseat there is delay. Does anyone know can say if it's noticeable?

[@ThePape78]

No it’s not noticeable

[@duosable]

Any recommendation on storage options? Still cannot decide to go with 128 or 512

[@dinxsy8069]

They need to give us a PCVR Quest 3 variation with price altered to match, would be lighter minus the battery, no internals (less of what is not needed anyways) would be amazing. 4090 needed 1080p max performance, best. That guy in the live stream was cracking me up

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

The price of the quest 3 is largely the lenses not the compute. Also it would still need battery and compute for WiFi and wireless which is clearly the direction for VR Also meta make all there money from software sales and not the HMD , so it's literally cheaper it being it's own console.

[@BeetjeVreemd]

Thanks a lot for this video! I was kinda tempted to maybe buy a new Quest 2 for € 300, instead of getting the Quest 3 for € 550, because it's so much cheaper. But i was already afraid i was gonna regret that decision and after this video i'm sure i will. So i'm gonna save some more money and then buy the Quest 3 in a couple of months i think. In the past i bought a second hand Rift (CV1 it was i think), but sold it quite quickly because i thought the resolution wasn't high enough, and i couldn't really run it at the graphic settings i wanted either with my Ryzen 5 2600 CPU + Nvidia RTX 2060 Super. Now i have a 5800X AMD CPU and a Nvidia RTX 4070, should be a lot better experience with that hardware in combination with a Quest 3 i think. Allthough i'm still a bit worried my 4070 is gonna be a bottleneck.

[@nukedogger86]

A buddy of mine gave me his quest 2 for free. Gave it a whirl win AMS 2 and ATS. Couldn't get over the blur. I wouldn't call it like having a 1080p screen, more like 720p. Definitely better than a 1st gen Playstation VR set from years ago, but rather disappointing still. Maybehaps when the price comes down on a quest 3 I take a look, because it was cool as hell driving in VR, the most immersive experience ever.

[@kevin-l7r7p]

I got a Quest 2 a couple of years ago now, was my first VR experience and was really impressed, that said I've barely used it since. Until it's like putting a pair of sunglasses on (or at least close to) I just can't be bothered with it. That said I would suggest anyone who likes impressive visuals to give VR a try, even as a one of......reminds me to finish Half Life Alyx...closest thing to IRL scifi I've seen

[@john_hawley]

I have a rift, i dont like vr. Would a quest 3 be a night and day upgrade?

[@TechWizMaster]

for sure man even the quest 2 shits all over the rift S...a non S rift...i had one when it came out but compared to what they are doing today it's ancient stuff man...

[@TechWizMaster]

to give you an idea the Rift S feels 40% better than the non S, and the quest 2 feels another 45% better than the Rift S...and now the quest 3 from what i can see there looks to be another good 50% upgrade over the quest 2...so yeah...yours is like an old 480p fat box TV compared to now what is a 4K tv for example.

[@MUV4TRUK4]

I canny keep up man

[@Gareth.W]

The Quest 3 is €550 here in France... I've got a Quest 2 but need to upgrade my PC and buy a wheel and racing seat... only then can I think about getting a Quest 3 (by which time, they'll have released even more models so it'll be probably be the Quest 4 or Quest 5 by then!) 😂

[@benozzy003]

Have a 120hz monitor 1080p and a 4k hdr 60h monitor i never use the 120 hz visual clarity is more important to me

[@johnmann7o2]

Paired with a motion rig and bass shakers, VR is the closest thing to RL.

[@darrensimmons9106]

Still too blurry for me on a 4090 a few years away yet

[@W00JDA]

Me on my oculus rift cv1- hmmm, interesting...

[@Space-O-2001]

Wow really going for that Q3 cross traffic of late lol.

[@Mr.E-UK]

Quest 3 lite has been cancelled in China

[@Leron_T]

There's a way to "hack" the Oculus 2 with its debug settings to make it look waaaaaay better than stock settings.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIfPZ2iKhdOrkMU

[@WilXuH]

Sometimes I take off my quest 3 and it seems my vision gets worse and the world is blurry😂😂😂

[@TechWizMaster]

i'm on the fence really, but i think i'll wait to see if they come out with a light version for PC VR only...till then i'll stick with my quest 2 for a little more.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

They wont do a pc VR only one , meta make all there money from software sales and there whole development has shifted away from the PC side onto the headset side.

[@TechWizMaster]

@@GamerMuscleVideos oh well...time to get a quest 3 then lol :p

[@bullit199]

@@GamerMuscleVideosThe fact that Meta has PCVR as a very low priority for their users is a downside. Do I just wait another year for version 2 of a BigScreen Beyond, Valve Deckard, or a used Quest 3 for quest 2 prices? I’m on Quest 2 now and it’s good enough for PCVR that I can’t justify the upgrade yet.

[@Filodream]

Quest 3 with its lenses is phenomenal. GM try virtual desktop as soon as you can with a wifi6 router and set 120hz mode.. you will be shocked

[@hungrypigsfarm2959]

anyone got a quest 3 for a new vr nerd and flight simmer please send me a message shit to expensive over here

[@hugovai89]

Who needs a new girlfriend when you can have a quest 3 girl and a dd girl at the same time

[@TheTrianim]

Propaganda indeed! Most of it sounds correct, but I don't think most people have really properly tested out the quest 2. True, it took several weeks of tests to find the sweet spot, but I don't have the screen door effect or image warping on the quest 2. I think the eye strain problems come from running it at higher settings than your computer can easily handle, especially with a minimum setup. Also, you said nothing about battery life comparisons. My quest 2 can go over 8 hours plugged in to the pc without a charge (with my settings). I heard you couldn't really go much more than 3 hours plugged in before needing a recharge. I'd like to see a test comparison of that, even though settings will affect the duration. I use 80hz, not 90 for racing games. Not as clear as 90, but no eye strain, and it runs much better and faster on my minimum computer setup. I'm sure the quest 3 is much better, but proper info is also important.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

You do have the image warping , you just don't notice it , it's literally baked into the lenses. Though quest 2 is better than rift S and CV1 , but the sweet spot is small easy to lose. I bought quest 2 when it came out and have used it a fair bit. Lots of people are finding quest 3 way more comfortable and less of a strain largely due to lenses and image sharpness. Was using valve index today and the blur really does give strain. I often run vr games at 144hz or 120 obvously not dropping frames.

[@TheTrianim]

@GamerMuscleVideos if, by warping, you really only mean the transition between the sweet spot and blurred edges, then ok, but I guess I'm so adapted to focusing on the sweet spot with head movement that I'm not aware of it. I'm not saying it's just as good as the quest 3 quality, though, for sure. I'd probably get one if I could afford it right now. Also, isn't battery life a fairly big issue for quest 3, even plugged into the pc? I've seen videos where they bring this up. The comparison was around 10 hours for quest 2 and 3 hours for the quest 3 (when plugged in with cable). Can you comment on that? What kind of comparison have you found in them that way?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I believe warping is due to pupil swim / when you rotate head but keep looking at a specific object your eyes move relative to the lenses , they also.dont just.move left and right but in 3D space due to eye geometry and how eye muscles work. The way an image is distorted on the screens to then be corrected by the lenses combined with the above aspect can cause things to warp and shift in shape when you move your head and look around a sceene. Various headsets have delt with this to differing degrees. Needless to say the larger the sweet spot is both up and down but also in and out the less distortion will likely happen ( though not always the case) You can use a battery or link cable with power to make up for battery life which is definitely too low on its own.

[@elliott823]

strap on 🤭

[@virtuallyreal]

Honestly, i dont know why you'd choose either for sim racing, but hey ho.

[@_pjd]

What charging link cable do you use?