Metal Gear Solid 4 - Final Boss

[@manduheavyvazquez5268]

Ocelot was the only guy that met all snakes. Greatness.

[@Mr.Drew70]

So did Solid Snake

[@XXXXD]

@Gr8sc0tt he did in Metal Gear He is Boss double

[@MaskedMazter]

What about major zero

[@thatguyknownaswill8180]

@@MaskedMazter he never saw venom, liquid, Solidus, or Raiden, if you count him since he was called snake for like 2 minutes in Metal Gear Solid 2.

[@axilus_4012]

He’s pretty good that’s why

[@cyropyro]

I can't help but to imagine that this fight is actually happening all in their heads as they glare at each other across the table during lunch at the old folks home...

[@madelinewoof7544]

cyropyro Senile Old Person Action!

[@jna1417]

*Snake intensly stares deeply in his eyes while chewing on his brocolli* *Liquid counteracts by staring at his face while squeezing a milk carton*

[@XenoByte]

+Jon “JonThePotato” Ayuco INTENSE

[@quizboy99]

+cyropyro oh damn what if that's the twist . That would be one giant middle finger

[@VermilionGates]

+R. Walker Lol

[@retrogamingguitarist5961]

The final battle between the son of The Boss and the son of Big Boss. And it was epic.

[@TheSonicfanx1]

+Retro Gaming Guitarist ...They're both the son of Big Boss though... Edit 4/11/2021: It's been 5 years, let it go. The person you are @ing no longer exists. He's grown up and matured. *This comment was a teasing shitpost when I posted it.* Quite literally bait. It was funny then, it's still kinda funny now. Not sure how funny it was the amount of headasses replied to this comment thread. Some were nice, some weren't. Everyone kinda lost for getting hit by this bait. Sorry to Retro Gaming Guitarist in retrospect. It was fun.

[@jijonbreaker]

+TheSonicfanx1 Somebody didn't watch the whole series.

[@S0l1d5SNAK3]

+TheSonicfanx1 he said it because it's ocelots body I think he knows they both belong to the boss tho bro

[@jijonbreaker]

S0l1d5SNAK3 You also didn't watch the whole series. And yes, I do mean watch. Because you could have played it without paying a bit of attention.

[@retrogamingguitarist5961]

TheSonicfanx1 Ocelot is the natural born son of The Boss and The Sorrow and Snake of course was cloned from Big Boss.

[@azpunk9996]

I remember watching my dad play these games throughout my childhood, when I watched him play this part he had an expression I’ve never seen him make

[@whateveridecidetodonext4124]

AzPunk999 What kind of expression?

[@Apotheosister]

@@whateveridecidetodonext4124 Probably happiness.

[@damiananguiano5295]

Haha that aww moment. It took like 16 years for him to see this.

[@LoLiTRiNX]

That's actually strong, cheers

[@Yoruharu]

what is his reaction when liquid kiss snakes?

[@Carlayna]

The moment they inject each other the life and saw Solid Snake and Liquid health bar with MGS1 style, i just cried of pure emotion!

[@chacharubi6700]

Carlayna yeah me 2, and then the old school theme starts plaing perfect.

[@kd_link1718]

Nostalgia my friend.... Nostalgia...

[@CamperN00b47]

Plus the moment when Snake throws his injector away then Ocelot proceeds to do the same, and the trumpet music settles down... oh my god!

[@hunterkat1853]

My smile nearly broke my cheeks when i saw that, and got hyped to kick ass...till snake eater started playing

[@kd_link1718]

I like how they change from the nostalgic Health bar to a earlier Nostalgic health bar

[@twodogsandadingo3331]

So to snake its solid vs liquid in a fight to survive But in ocelot's head its ocelot vs big boss in a friendly duel that ocelot just wants to prove himself Thats really f***ing sad

[@solidsnake9477]

Dennis Jay Thompson That's why in stage 3 the theme changes to Snake Eater and name changes from Solid Snake to Naked Snake. Plus his stance also mirrors Naked Snake's.

[@twodogsandadingo3331]

Solid Snake I know! ITS SO SAD I LOVE THIS FRANCHISE

[@twodogsandadingo3331]

User User Oh my god You're Right!

[@RationalRegi]

Actually its Ocelot V.S Solid Snake. His Cybernetic Arm is the one he severed so Liquid wouldnt control him

[@chrisseger2346]

@@RationalRegi Liquid never did control him. Ocelot used nanomachines and hypnotherapy to turn himself into Liquid, to give Snake the adversary he needed to continue fighting. Ocelot never was a "bad guy", he just played the role he needed to play. He was, after all, Big Boss' most trusted ally. Everything that led up to this exact moment was plotted by Ocelot years ago, and while I don't think everything necessarily went as planned, it worked out in the end. It's hard to tell if Ocelot and Big Boss truly wanted society to collapse, or just the Patriots. They both clearly loved war, and knew the world would become chaos without the Patriot's system, but is that what they really wanted? Or were they just willing to accept that as a consequence of destroying them? Now that, I would like to know.

[@DAMONIC_SCREAM]

I personally believe this is the best ending in gaming history. I love this so much. I purposely made two save files just to always go back and play this ending over and over.

[@NoName-bu7qm]

I did the same with the save xD

[@Justforvisit]

Back in the day before we had internet / KZbin it was the only way this way :P

[@JZStudiosonline]

Really? I despised this. It wasn't the idea or anything, it's just that the actual fight was such a pain in the ass. All the symbolism and everything was cool, but god I hated that fight.

[@AintPopular]

it was too dramatic . hitting each other with syringe lol .wtf

[@kentatakao6863]

Lol. There are so many better endings in video games.

[@ShockerTopper]

I didn't even notice til just now how his name changes throughout the fight from Liquid, to Liquid Ocelot, to just Ocelot by the end as he regains "himself" even though he intentionally gave himself the hypnotherapy to believe he was liquid snake. Cool detail though ni this fight.

[@MrTredBear]

Please Pin this; deserves top comment.

[@justasec346]

And solid names changes to naked snake. So I think based on some comments, Ocelot POV was this is naked snake vs ocelot

[@lawngnome2415]

So you say, Snake beat some sense into him

[@penknight9218]

@@lawngnome2415 yeah pretty much

[@Salamander676]

@@justasec346 he just sounds delusional af

[@BeastOrGod]

Tears on 11 minutes when Snake Eater music comes on.

[@michaelkors2413]

+mikey83x Leyend of zelda is better.

[@johnanth]

+Solitude I didn't like it so much actually, or the ending either. No doubt it was well executed. But when Solid Snake is about to get his character moment, Big Boss has to step in. The whole point of the first game was that Snake should not have to be in his father's shadow anymore, and of MGS4 that he has to create his own legacy while respecting the legacies of others. It just sucked that even Solid Snake's grand denouement still has to be about Big Boss.

[@risseer23]

+Michael Kors He said the best Ps2 title learn how to read.

[@CJ00014]

+Solitude I cried with "encounter" remembering when I first beat Liquid on MGS1 :'(

[@thegamingsaint3316]

**salutes** thats how u make a final boss battle

[@Thegr8MC]

17:32 This brief little clip here of the one frog soldier comforting the other is one of my favorite scenes in the whole game. It's just a little reminder that under all the armor and weapons and systems and equipment and nanomachines, at the end of the day they're all still human.

[@AlexandeRSciswoR]

Hadn't noticed that until that, so many years later

[@KillThisManNRK]

Made me more proud of my no kill run.

[@Thegr8MC]

@@KillThisManNRK My face when I love violent video games becasue of their immersive and emotional stories, but I'm also extremely empathetic and hate seeing people suffer and die needlessly. Thanks Metal Gear Solid for giving me a compromise.

[@jaydenslaptop]

Awhhh

[@a.k8185]

Didnt they all have a mental breakdown before that cutscene? Makes sense that one would comfort the other.

[@ProbInsane]

4:34 It always made me laugh how snake goes for a round house kick and actual just throws himself at Ocelot and he fucking catches him. Hilarious.

[@neththeobnoxioussponge8929]

No it looked like he was doing a jumping turning back kick or a jumping inside-outside cresent kick But nevertheless its still funny to look at XD

[@ScarletFlames1]

@@neththeobnoxioussponge8929 To me it looks like Hideo Kojima watched some Hulk Hogan match re-runs when writing this scene.. Pretty sure if transcripts of what he told the animators to put in this scene would be "this WWE match, I want it in the game"

[@endisendis123]

baki fans trying to fight back against their drunk father:

[@dusk_writer]

5:27 My friend: "Hey man I'm going to the fridge you want anything to drink?" Me:

[@ソトヤママリアテレサ]

let me guess: all you wanted was a Pepsi. sorry but we got none.

[@mich4408]

Rip in pepperonis

[@jamesdyball7316]

You want a liquid snake? Interesting

[@trcsonic]

NOT FOR HONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR BUT FOR YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[@spinoguy]

Snake Eater...

[@shuu4899]

Jordan Buysse IN MY TIMEEEEEEEEEE

[@Rhainee]

Corielle Johnson They'll Be Noooooo Onee elsseeeeee

[@shuu4899]

Naseem Hussain CRIIIIIIIME! ITS THE WAY!

[@n0b0dy598]

Corielle Johnson ILL FLY TO YOUUUUUUUUU! Snake eater....

[@sovietdz15]

5:32 4 years old when they see a cobra in the zoo

[@mariovazquez4436]

Bruh 😂😂

[@AetherSphere]

*Proceeds to enter CQC with cobra*

[@HackerMan203]

And Ironically,a cobra is a snake.

[@kaybevang536]

Wow This Is 4 years ago

[@Hugeboss01]

2008 was an amazing year with excellent games we had GTA 4 Fallout 3 MGS 4 Dead Space DMC 4 Gears Of War 2 Ninja Gaiden 2 and BURNOUT Paradise

[@tomasmercado1727]

Big Boss and sonic unleashed

[@bobsaget5763]

Tomas Mercado nah hes talking about good games

[@tomasmercado1727]

Bob Saget is not bad

[@GingerBreadMan1178]

wtf Fallout 3 and MGS4 was release on 2008. Holy fuken god i'm old.

[@Predator1706]

GingerBreadMan1178 10 years and now they teased new fallout

[@LonePhantom756]

6:48 It was this moment that really drove it home. After their long enmity, these two were determined to end it properly, as arch foes should.

[@blockedjuser1272]

Doing drugs with the homies

[@salculd]

I can't explain why, but that has always felt like the single most defining scene of the series to me.

[@haurchefantgreystone9392]

Two tired old men with nothing left to do but die, fighting a fight that's already finished because it's all they know how to do.

[@fredmann5979]

They wanted a fair fight. As a 10 year old who beat the game I realy miss this

[@ro-86alkonost78]

Despite their hate towards each other, they still respect each other, and they want to settle the score once and for all. It will do them no honor if they cheat.

[@jackmarston927]

I just noticed that Snake used the same needle as Ocelot. Hope he didn't have any diseases or the ending could have gone down differently. Big Boss: "You're not going to die from Foxdie.... Snake: "That's great" Big Boss: "But you got AIDS from Ocelot so you're probably still gonna die" Snake: "Shit"

[@gdcompany]

Hahaha, very funny!

[@aimanghazi7043]

***** LOL

[@adrevenue6264]

jackmarston927 kojima was too lazy to model different needles, just pointing it out.

[@JanneSala]

Official Gameplays No, he literally takes the needle from Ocelot's neck and stabs it into his own.

[@kaanklc8867]

Yabatron And Factness INC. True :v

[@thatoneguy1574]

I have never enjoyed two old men beating the absolute shit out of each other more than now.

[@coolguy02536]

"Meme" was a normal word back then.

[@jcp1966]

"Memes. The DNA of the soul"

[@felipegamarra8382]

"There's a pretty meme, exquisite"

[@damiananguiano5295]

I think memes make every1 stupid. Finding joy in the dumbest and most degrading way. Yea fuck all of you.

[@damiananguiano5295]

Finding a way to share and make other dumbasses feel better about the same god damn problem. Haha pathetic.

[@kyrieespayos2580]

"How about a piece of shit is that a meme"

[@NightWanderer31415]

6:03 when both you and the music realize that the endless fighting between brothers is pointless.

[@TheShadowWithoutaDoubt]

😢

[@tristanegger7757]

So is your irrelevant opinion.

[@L0rdLexan01]

So the end of MGS4 is two old people beating each other to death on a boat?

[@cobratradition]

Album Interpretations Yes, and it's fucking awesome

[@rabidwolverine9269]

Album Interpretations Correct. This fight is mimicking the one Liquid Snake and Solid Snake had on top of Metal Gear Rex at Shadow Moses.

[@TheHalo2fan]

Album Interpretations no the end of MGS4 is Big Boss finally passing.

[@OggyTheTiger]

Its also a throw back to Ocelot and Naked snakes last fight

[@uuu12343]

Album Interpretations 2 of the most legendary characters in gaming

[@MrBeaux]

The son of Big Boss vs the son of the Boss. It all comes full circle.

[@SeanTheShinigami]

MrBeaux HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED--

[@RyujiisWaifu]

Sean what? That ocelot is the son of the mother of special forces, the legendary warrior, The Boss.

[@johnarbuckle4481]

What are talking about? They're not ACTUAL brothers you dumbass :/

[@RyujiisWaifu]

John Arbuckle everyone has known that since 2

[@johnarbuckle4481]

Bullshit, I knew even before 1.

[@benwasserman8223]

Who else enjoyed watching two old people fight?

[@suhailmustafa2724]

Who didn't??

[@AintPopular]

i wish my grandpa was like that

[@RalphZeggers]

Brus Campbel )

[@ericmonaco4509]

While Injecting them selfs with Roids

[@robinkalousek7247]

I thought he is not old(Snake) but he has a rare aging disease

[@skelebonezone]

6:28 to 7:35 is without a doubt the best part of the fight and I legitimately get goosebumps everytime I see it

[@SasTryTon]

Legendary

[@skelebonezone]

@@SasTryTon thanks for replying, I haven't seen this vid in a bit. Still get goosebumps :)

[@sniper712]

trumpet still gets me every time...

[@anaflaviabitencourt3488]

My favorite part too! It's impossible describe the feelings in this exactly moment, I remember start crying when the life bars appears with the code names and the songs ❤ best ending ever

[@Underdrill]

​@d R welcome to every kojima game ever, and we wouldnt have it any other way ❤

[@WB_19]

7:03 respect.

[@HausAbendrot]

They might be rivals, but that there is respect

[@thegamingwolf371]

Hit MayoMan agreed, even soldiers respect their opponents

[@theparabolachampion6757]

Nanomachines son :)

[@solidman107]

Adog 23 literally

[@timtimothy4009]

Stridus7 They're only enemies on relative terms

[@Sonicisbadazz]

What's amazing about this scene and boss fight isn't really the fight itself. It's just the context of everything. We've seen these two duke it out in the past, and often we'd think how awesome it was watching them battle, how cool it is to be a badass like Snake, taking out everything in his path to save the world. And initially that's how it seems here too. But then we get partway through, the two scream at each other, the sad music starts playing, and we realize what's actually happening here. These are two broken men. Broken by their genetics, by their purposes, by their very existence. No matter how much they might want to, they cannot stop fighting. Because they are predisposed to hating each other even when they really don't, and they are designed specifically to be machines of war even when they want to live in peace. There is nothing left for them to do but "settle a score" that really amounts to little more than sibling rivalry. It doesn't serve a purpose except to give them an excuse to keep doing what they were "programmed" to do. That's why they don't even try to hog all the nanomachines in those tubes. They make a show of trying to in some instances, but really, they're just looking for ways to keep going. If that means stealing some, they will, and if that means giving some to the other, they will. It's admirable--even respectable--and yet it is one of the most depressing things imaginable. It's not even easy to tell if someone can WIN this fight, because once the battle is over, their whole purpose for existing is gone. Will they be free, or will they be lost? Perhaps Hideo Kojima is trying to use them as an analogy for war, but personally, I prefer to think it's just the inevitable result of the journey these characters have been on. It's really incredible stuff. Metal Gear Solid has always been overwritten with repetitive dialogue, wacky absurd scenarios, and so many cutscenes it barely feels like you're playing a game, but moments like these remind me why it's always been worth it. It's a shame the series is now dead, though I blame that partially on Kojima himself since he's apparently notorious for being arrogant. Let's hope Death Stranding can serve as a worthy follow-up.

[@DejavuVierSieben]

Nice comment m8.

[@mazuguy36]

i love your comment. *Salutes*

[@yotsVR]

I think the way the fight was choreographed was so that around 12:30 the player does not get a sense of satisfaction from defeating Liquid, and it just becomes a pathetic display of two tired dogs of war biting each others tails. kojima wanted to have snake kill himself at the end of the game, but the other members of the studio disagreed with him saying it would be a too depressing tone to end the game.

[@21Auron12]

and the most ironic thing in this fight is, eventhough ocelot is just acting like liquid, eventhough he is just being his doppelganger, he too has a score to settle with solid. thats why ocelot started acting more like his true self in his fight, he woke up in his fight.

[@GaleeStorm]

One of the nicest analysis about this ending I've read. Good job dude

[@SlayerOfTears]

11:00 I like how it says Naked Snake vs Ocelot. Very deep.

[@hallucy2215]

Its a reference from their helicopter fight i think

[@jdude222]

Or how Liquid becomes Liquid Ocelot in round 2

[@miguelcastillo9589]

*"But... we still have a score to settle."* Goosebumps every time

[@ro-86alkonost78]

This whole war was reduced from their armies to only the two of them because while the armies from both sides help each other, both Snake and Ocelot decided to fight to settle the score, it's really great that they wanted a fair battle as if winning by cheating is denying them the victory they want.

[@davidsnakedoe7322]

I've been shocked when I discovered that after all, in all the Metal Gear saga, Revolver Ocelot was the good guy. Everything was a setup, since before Shadow Moses, to destroy the Patriots. And Snake was an unaware pawn, who just made the work for the Patriots. Funny to think that the player always used "the bad" characters. Hideo trolled us all . But, in the end, Snake redeemed himself for his mistakes. Kojima managed to create a game in which every single character is a true hero. Since the beginning to the end of the Saga. Best game ever.

[@eduardocunhadecarvalho4778]

David Snake Doe could you explain to me why ocelot was the good guy?

[@vaachaspathibonala4019]

Eduardo Cunha de Carvalho patriots are the philosophers,everything ocelot was trying to do since mgs 2 was trying to Destro the patriots but when they were onto him he goes through psychotherapy to channel liquid snake to simply hide and Destroy the patriots.

[@granmastersword]

Vachaspathi Bonala Everything Ocelot planned to do since MGSV was to help Big Boss in destroying Cipher, later on the Patriots, to free everyone from their control, taking any means including helping the Patriots and being a terrorist to achieve it

[@davidsnakedoe7322]

@@Hariburger ahah, I agree with you. Ocelot was a hard warrior who enjoyed battle, sometimes as a sport. But since after he met Big Boss he had set for himself a noble goal, which was Big Boss' first goal. Anyway, maybe the only "true" heroes in the Saga have been Solid Snake and The Boss. But I love the ambigous mood all characters have in the Saga, there is not a tight difference between "good" and "bad". Snake himself, even being a hero, he denies it and thinks that he's just an old killer. "I'm no hero...never was...never will be".

[@articusramos808]

Ocelot is a complex friend. From that moment where we rescue Sokolov and had that chance encounter on his love of spaghetti westerns and gunslinger tricks to mgs4's ultimate ending. He is like his mom, went on double crossing many people and did so for a goal beyond the scope of both Snakes.

[@KoreanTakeout]

I love the nostalgic health bar.

[@malachigonzales5334]

Korean Takeout snake like one of my most favorite characters he is a legend

[@sierra118boy]

It's epic. The way the health bar shows up and fills up when they inject the final syringe in each other is chilling!

[@ttchme9816]

"You are pretty good! "

[@isidrabernal9460]

And soundtrack

[@johnlandas3739]

@@sierra118boy yea chilling if you're a corny ass anime nigga such as yourself

[@paulhorneschillings1212]

When your dad meets your father in-law.

[@deff_bepis]

Paulhorne Schillings (ocelot gets up) snake: pub? Ocelot: pub

[@Transporter_Not_Statham]

Paulhorne Schillings ....pretty much

[@meshman2763]

They inject drugs with each other?

[@marcusgabriel8365]

The in-law gives your father a kiss cheek while fighting?

[@Alexandra8620]

@@marcusgabriel8365 no homo

[@kidyugi1]

Damn as i get older and hearing ocelot saying "your pretty good" brings back all the flashbacks of my childhood. A real chiling moment for us old school gamers.

[@campingbutwithabudget.7521]

For fucking real.. Then the "Pretty.... Good!?" Line that angry young ocelot says lol

[@bbmoney86]

💯 tear worthy When real men cry!

[@ChairFace770]

So true

[@Pzafrk]

LIQUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID!!! SNAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!! *4 years later AAARMSTROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!

[@nadhifbhagawantahadiprayit975]

Pzafrk 2good

[@Tottleminerftw]

I said my sword was a tool of justice not used in anger not used for vengeance, but now, now i'm not so sure, and besides THIS ISN'T MY SWORD

[@jayc.2100]

*KOJIMAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!*

[@Tottleminerftw]

KONAAMMMIII

[@8bitPotatoPC-544]

@@Tottleminerftw man of culture I see

[@skatingfae92]

Possibly the greatest fight scene in a video game. It perfectly directs their eternal fight, their respect for each other, who they are, the snake eater theme starts playing, the music changes, its just so epic.

[@keen7youtubeistoast796]

Not really the best. For starters, a good fight scene would be a bit more playable... in a game. At least it isn't a QTE fight, but from a gameplay standpoint, it's boring.

[@ryanfarrelly4647]

@@keen7youtubeistoast796 So good in like story stuff, but not so good in actual gameplay?

[@keen7youtubeistoast796]

@@ryanfarrelly4647 Uhm... maybe, but I think that the story isn't even good. It's just a barrage of nostalgic throwbacks.

[@ryanfarrelly4647]

@@keen7youtubeistoast796 "Remember when you fought that thing with long blonde hair? Now do it again but it's actually 3 different boss fights, we know it is human, it has long *grey* hair and mostache, also nanomachines, son."

[@Hunter11725]

There’s also the fist fight with Micah Bell in RDR2 on High Honor.

[@tiredric]

The mgs series can be so stupid sometimes, but right here 6:00 when the music starts, damn awesome. Two tired, old war dogs, with no more battles to fight, barely able to stand on there own feet, they give it 1 last go. war may be horrible but its the only thing they know.

[@animelovers000]

+Tired Ric but it's the stupid things is what we love about the series it makes it that much different to other games

[@SneesToMeetYou]

+animelovers000 it has the right balance between completely insane and serious, that's why I love this series so much

[@chvIry]

Nice interpretation

[@brucesnow7125]

Intentionally stupid*

[@raulalmeida6572]

IT'S the stupid parts that make the more serious ones hit harder.

[@Echo18th]

I love how the fight evolves in multiple ways throughout the fight. the music starts as mg1 music, then mg2, then mg3, and then finally mg4, it is a really nice moment of nostalgia and a reminder of how much lead up the this moment. I also love how the health bar names change as the fight progresses, Ocelots name starts as liquid, then changes to liquid ocelot, then finally just ocelot, and every time it changes we see a clip of him In all the games he has been in. Snakes name also changes but on a smaller level, he starts off as solid snake and changes to naked snake near the finale phase, i don’t really know why considering naked snake is big boss but a cool detail none of the less.

[@B-K94]

The health bar changes too

[@jeanmarc19221]

Naked snake to remember mgs 3 i think

[@kylele23]

The Naked Snake name change is more calling back to a theme of MGS in general about how much we carry over from the past generation and how it defines us, Ocelot is settling his score with Naked Snake through Solid Snake

[@gennarosevero1856]

I think it's because that the whole fight is kind of like from ocelot poverty. Mgs 1- the liquid persona is in full control Mgs 2- the cracks are starting to show, hence liquid ocelot Mgs 3- liquid has been repressed for a moment allowing ocelot to feel some sort of nostalgia, like he's fight Big Boss, just like in groznyv grad

[@Shinterymi]

The more I learn about this series, the more this boss fight becomes metaphorically strong. Ahhh the feeeels...

[@LIQUIDSNAKEz28]

This is like watching an epic battle between two gods

[@CosmicChris]

+LIQUIDSNAKEz28 Pretty much respective Titans.

[@topdog2007]

+LIQUIDSNAKEz28 two men fighting it out like true men do with there fist that do the talking

[@majinbros9971]

+LIQUIDSNAKEz28 Yes I also like watching grandpas on stereodys fight.

[@ItachiiXSaber]

+LIQUIDSNAKEz28 If they are gods, so BigBoss is the creator of those gods. BigBoss > gods.

[@kakkacarrotcake1393]

you just dont know :')

[@ryzacobalion3622]

i think when Liquid Ocelot took on different personas during each phase of the fight Snake does as well and each one have very important meaning in my eyes, Solid Snake VS Liquid phase: during this phase Liquid wants to kill Snake no matter how old he is, he won't stop until he surpasses his brother to be Superior then he is. Solid Snake vs Liquid Ocelot phase: Snake is trying to finish what he started back in metal gear solid 2 during the big shell incident as much as Liquid and Ocelot. Naked Snake vs Ocelot phase: Ocelot takes over when he wants a rematch with his rival Big Boss and since Solid Snake surprised big boss he wants to surpass the next big thing, surpass the son of Big Boss and fighting for the true title of Boss. there's a lot happening in this fight even im missing our seeing. But every true MGS fans knows exactly the true meaning in this final fight with liquid and ocelot

[@Vorox17]

Ryza Cobalion Snake is also a lot more energetic/agile in the earilier phases, especially the MGS1 one, and in MGS4 phase he;s just a weak old man

[@ProxyMinePro]

Vorox17 Old, but not obsolete

[@Jackson-hp7rt]

+Ryza Cobalion I agree with your ideas on each phase, but to me, when the Old Snake vs Liquid Ocelot phase starts, Snake and Liquid Ocelot are just two old men who want to settle a score from long ago, no winners or losers, just survivors of one last fight against each other so they can have their own peace. It's sad, but it's true for them. Snake is nearing his death and all he wants is to finish one more battle with Liquid so he won't have to fight anymore.

[@ryzacobalion3622]

Davis Lent good point.

[@RawrName]

+Ryza Cobalion I think you both make great valid points and to add to the conversation, my theory on the fight between Naked Snake vs Ocelot... I believe that it may be trace DNA of the original Big Boss in Snake wanting to finish the rivalry between both Ocelot and Big Boss because in the health bar the name changes to Naked Snake. Then again, I am just making a speculation and I could be wrong.

[@sirgreg7124]

I love how the combat in this section is like a combination of CQC and the classic punch punch kick combo

[@DogeTheDoge]

The Patriots memes. So is Metal Gear actually a personification of the internet?

[@ConorChaos]

+Gavin Crowley The internet is the personification of Metal Gear.

[@DogeTheDoge]

ConorChaos "What a twist!"

[@ConorChaos]

"Insert Monsoon bullshit about memes."

[@KefkaTheDemiGod]

+ConorChaos You thought it was the Patriots, but it was me, DIO!

[@fissilewhistle]

The memes, Jack!

[@ISuperGenXI]

One of the greatest boss fights ever. Even if it's just a straight up fist fight, you can feel that the entire franchise had led up to that moment.

[@khanzheng647]

what Ocelot said from 14:23 onward is all correct America will descend into Chaos Chaos that Snake can no longer stop Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance

[@Vorox17]

Sergesh Dimitri It's not canon

[@khanzheng647]

Vorox17 it is canon unless stated otherwise. Just because a sizable chunk of Metal Gear Solid fans hate it doesn't mean it is not canon

[@strayfox506]

BTW MGR was suppose to be after MGS 2 and before MGS 4, which is pretty much enough to say it's not canon.

[@khanzheng647]

Mr. Brightside The Fuck did I just read? Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance takes place 4 years after the event of Liquid Ocelot's Insurrection and the Fall Of The Patriots you have mistaken Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance with the original unreleased Metal Gear Rising The fact that Sunny is 9 years old in this game should be enough to tell you that it doesn't set between 2 and 4. have you even played the game?

[@Rising4632]

+Mr. Brightside Rising was after mgs4 4 years , raiden was the only hope after snake in that time

[@sortedevaras]

If only MGSV had ended on a fight like this between Boss and Solid Snake.

[@bardy8639]

sortedevaras there probably would have been in the chapter that was cut.

[@EinsteinIbraheem]

@@bardy8639 that would had been epic, sadly mgsv ends in outer heaven where venom hears the sound of solid snake attacking him

[@googabear5223]

He fights Eli if that counts

[@Majhool95]

Einstein Ibraheem when did that happened?

[@Majhool95]

cuba bori so what is it then????

[@M_Blaze27]

5:27 Snake: LIQUIIIIIIIIIIIIIID!!!! Liquid: SNAAAAAAAKE!!!!! Me: EPIIIIIIIIIIC!!!!!

[@mitr_on5768]

BlazeNGames EPIC: BLAAAAAAAAAAAZE

[@TheOneLichemperor]

BRRRROOOOTHEEERRRR!

[@mardino2267]

Aaaaaaaa llliiiiquiiiiiiid

[@SoulCharizard]

Then both Snake and Liquid look at you guys with their wtf face. :P

[@kbnmusic5130]

COMMEEEEEENTS

[@Damocles178]

I love how for each round of the fight each stance pays homage to an earlier battle. At 10:55 for example Ocelot makes a gesture just like his younger self in Metal Gear Solid 3. :D

[@DenNorskeFyren]

“You’re pretty good” got me crying lol

[@KienNguyen-cu3ht]

@@DenNorskeFyren yeah..

[@Rorschach003]

when MGS2 lifebars came in: it should've said "Iroquois Pliskin"

[@Somekid980]

But he wasn’t pliskin on the tanker, it was solid on the tanker

[@donutdoughboy]

5:27 When you wake up and your mouth is dry

[@STLGAMERZTV]

Dude at 16:17 my heart drops!!! Flashback of the decade!!

[@nesnalica]

I cannot stop crying. This is so emotional. The details theyve put into this game... Q_Q

[@tfirehead]

TheNesnalica Such a great love letter to the fans of this series. Even this one bit of the game could get me talking for at least 20-30 minutes.

[@Clipbrick_CB]

TheNesnalica I agree... Q_Q Idk what to say,but i want to cry. ;_;

[@STLGAMERZTV]

exactly yo!!!!

[@chvIry]

Idk why but *Old* *Snake* is the most heart touching piece I've ever heard. I used to play the title screen of MGS4 just to fall asleep to this

[@Arkanoid1212]

switch from one gamer generation to the next *tips hat*

[@Piizzachuu]

I love how in Snake eater Eva is about to shoot Ocelot while he is running away and Snakes stops her saying that he's still too young and Eva says "You're going to regret stopping me"

[@callofduty611]

@Mattson The F60 Player Spoilers if you didn't see the ending of MGS4: Big Boss confirmed it was the new strain of Foxdie that is actually what killed Ocelot. Though I doubt Snake beating the hell out of him helped 😂

[@Misaelec7]

This is it bois. Nothing will ever top this. The very end of the Metal Gear saga injecting the whole trip itself completely from beggining to end in a single scenario. Nothing can invoke so many memories and feels from childhood, teenage and adulthood like this. It's not just Metal Gear, it's our life with it. Thanks Kojima, we need nothing else.

[@TheBrokenMadMan]

Fitting that a war began by The Boss and Big Boss should be ended by their descendants.

[@PMW3]

the music in this series is amazing.

[@shiroprancer5798]

It doesn't surpass Kingdom Hearts, though.

[@Coalch13]

Yeah it is the best by far, the music at the end when big boss is dying and snake lights his cigar for him tears at your heart strings. It is the only scene in video games that made me tear up.

[@ikerpatinohernandez3870]

Your sister is amazing at bed

[@NerevarOfficialReal]

@@ikerpatinohernandez3870 Well, now that's just rude.

[@ikerpatinohernandez3870]

@@NerevarOfficialReal but i love her

[@dootooty]

Sometimes your greatest enemy turns out to be your greatest friend

[@jollycooperation7446]

Ever hear the saying "Keep your friends close, but you enemies closer."

[@ThatGuyKh1]

dootooty patooty ocelot and solid snake were never really friends

[@FonchoVidal]

My favorite part, is that the next game chronologicaly is about an androgynous cyborg dude figthing against the memes of destruction

[@GamerLoquenderoX]

I liked that part “You are pretty good"

[@MR_BRONZO]

It was pretty good

[@FrizzBeeMans]

*You're pretty good..*

[@sigurd8382]

@@FrizzBeeMans Pretty... good...?

[@ytn675]

Good old days

[@aidanvandervenne]

Just what I’d expect from the man with the same code as the boss.

[@profchaos100]

After all of the guns and vehicles and more guns and explosions and rockets and guns alllllll comes down to a good old fist fight......classic....

[@combinecommando001]

good old fist fight by two old men, classic indeed.

[@H3x2nerd]

combinecommando001 good old fist fight by two old LEGEN-Wait for it....DARY men. (Excuse the How i met your mother reference.)

[@JaneXemylixa]

Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon

[@revolvermarksmen2287]

best boss fight in gaming yeah I said it

[@alenkaravanic9022]

The best cutscene confirmed by guiness records to date no game has beaten this cutscene.

[@hussainadel6483]

+Alen Karavanić Who needs the record. Any proper mgs fan or a proper gamer would know this is one of the best game series ever imo.

[@ChapuleTaylor]

Metal gear hasn't won a guiness award for best cutscene, it actually was for longest cutscene.

[@whitefox6277]

agreed

[@Landofahero]

best bossfight? its exacty the same as MGS 1, on purpose, but with some overused cutscene, lol, MGS 1 final boss IS one of the best boss fight gaming in a storystyle genre thou

[@rdu239]

One accelerated aged to be an old man One aged gracefully to witness all the major events that happened in his life to reach this moment.

[@taimur74]

5:28 "LIIQUUIIID !!!" .. the reason why nobody can replace David Hayter as the voice of Snake / Big Boss. Pity Kojima did not realize it

[@peneman69able]

(I don't really want to get into an argument in such an epic video, but there it goes) The thing is, Hayter is incredible for solid snake/naked snake, but the more "evil" naked snake becomes, he eventually becomes Big Boss, which is why he is not anymore the same person, therefore Sutherland is the "transition" of Big Boss.

[@rowandunn9977]

Has kojima ever let us down?

[@EonArashi]

Rowan Dunn ...depends on whether you thought that MGS2 was "letting us down" or not.

[@EonArashi]

***** Never said that *I* thought it was. Just that some people might. For the record, I think MGS2 would've been better if it hadn't been trying to troll the player half the time, but it was still a very good game.

[@CaptainPrincess]

***** It doesn't get much hate though Some folks just think it was a disappointment is all I know that, even though I got to like it as I played through it, when I first loaded it up I was quite upset. Thought I'd gotten the wrong game or missed one or something.

[@ProfessorHeavyTF2]

5:12 Like two boys fighting over something. "Alright, lemme use this syringe.." "No, it's mine!" "Nuh-uh, I called it!" *Breaks finger* "Moooooom!" Also, something odd.. at 7:40, Liquid takes more damage from the crash to the ground... okay...?

[@modelorpheus]

Was thinking the same thing

[@chiggy2938]

Well they are twins after all lol

[@CosmicChris]

+djsmallboy Correction, Shalashaska/ Ocelot is the son of The Boss, Not Big Boss. However Liquid is in his mind, so they are not really related at a biological point anymore.

[@gatodotrigun9567]

Professor Heavy gravity hurts

[@samaleks4390]

This makes me cry manly tears every time.

[@RealP3A]

me too especially watching the end where otacon cries and snake and raiden all they been through 😢😢

[@NightshadeX1521]

Sam Aleks the whole game brought me tears.

[@Ese_Moreno04]

Friend: What do you want to drink? Me: 5:27

[@vadar0521]

Me too

[@doomsday1268]

SNAKE!!!!!!!

[@robinkhammo2886]

@@doomsday1268 lol

[@Solid_Mae]

copied

[@xaviertsun5004]

Yes, I like my liquid with a side of *crack.*

[@projectshiro1097]

When I have grandchildren Grandchildren: grandpa what's this (holding mgs4) Me:sit down and let me tell you a story you will never forget.............

[@dabbinskele8351]

or... Let me tell you a story you will likely not even understand because its complicated and long as fuck.

[@raulalmeida6572]

@@dabbinskele8351 and full of retcons.

[@noscoper4209]

Raul Almeida and NANOMACHINES SON

[@lemonjelly1171]

".......and then he SHIT HIMSELF."

[@cristobalgonzalez324]

@@lemonjelly1171 "....and memed to FUCK YOU"

[@chunlee8827]

6:05 when that song starts i get goosebumps

[@GodittoC]

69 likes, make a wish!

[@chaosxepsilon6833]

6:26 - 7:20 Perfect szenery and proof of a legendary fight between two good warriors who respect each other...

[@getRedddyy]

"Respect eachother" Try taking a look at 4:30 through 5:15

[@chaosxepsilon6833]

GetReddy Well, i SAID 6:26 TILL 7:20 -.- not the hole vid. Srsly, try to read the FULL comment BEFORE you answer-.-

[@getRedddyy]

I did read it. And you said that they respected eachother. And I said to myself "No they don't" So then I added that comment. Your argument is invalid.

[@chaosxepsilon6833]

Yours is invalid. I said at exactly "that" moment. Srsly, if my english isn't that good, i'll apologize for being too long in french-.-

[@HopeyDiamond]

GetReddy how is 4:30 - 5:15 NOT respecting each other? is it the pummeling and fighting "dirty" because a) You are not going to stop hitting an opponent after one shot, this isn't an RPG or those crappy movies were they go one hit at a time b) it's a battle to the death, if you truly respect your opponent you will go all out and use anything and everything at your disposal, I mean, samurais would use Swords fiercely to Kill each other even if it meant throwing sand in their eyes to open a stab to the crotch. If you do any less than 100% THAT is disrespecting an opponent by considering them inferior *yes, the original post is 6 months old, this is for the future generations mind you*

[@Tt10156]

The sound of the trumpets playing at 17:56 was so impactful and brought tears 😭 to my eyes For it’s the sound of the end for the most amazing video game trilogy of all time.

[@micahoday1874]

Sounds more like French horns but yeah same

[@thorjelly]

"metal gear solid 4" "trilogy" you really hated MGS2 that much, huh?

[@muaddib5079]

Uh it's actually more than a trilogy, the first game was made in 1987

[@alenkaravanic9022]

"You're pretty good."(Turns from Liquid to Ocelot.) Dies by his foe. The best game cutscene Kojima broke the record for the greatest cutscene in a game.

[@war-fare-ninja2961]

He also broke the record for longest cut scene in a video game

[@Leo-yi6pm]

Pretty... Good ?

[@tylerchenoweth5017]

War-Fare-Ninja You mean the hour long ending?

[@FrizzBeeMans]

Yeah,so they animated it with looooooong timee

[@LCDqBqA]

He doesn't die to Snake, he dies to FoxDie

[@solidsnake9898]

I never get tired of watching this!

[@MrAlfredTheBest]

yeah because u enjoy fighting with ur brother till he die

[@solidsnake9898]

Megalodon Shark Ocelot isn't my brother, he is the son of the boss. I am the son of Big Boss.

[@MrAlfredTheBest]

Solid Snake big boss is actually ocelot step father

[@ricardoespantaleon4701]

+Solid Snake exactly

[@thedragonofdojima4157]

+Solid Snake SAME

[@hooberdoodle1851]

By the way anyone else notice the boss references when he throws his trench coat into the wind?

[@CompositeCreativity]

HOOBERDOODLE Like mother, like son.

[@MamboCat84]

YES! just like his mommy xD

[@snap_drama346]

@@CompositeCreativity I think he ever knew who his mother was

[@infernoROBO]

@@snap_drama346 Yeah you're right. Ocelot never found out The Boss was his mother but this was shown as a symbolism towards the mgs 3 final fight.

[@cerealkiller4880]

I’m here before everyone recognised the death stranding boss fight with Higgs.

[@SaadKhan-ob6cn]

Yahhhhh man....

[@basileus295]

Wait what?

[@chummyuy2537]

My_name_is Oglaw, the final Higgs bossfight includes a MGS4 style fistfight, and boy was it epic.

[@lazyvoid7107]

​@@SaadKhan-ob6cnJust say you hate

[@samturrett]

7:05 The best moment ever

[@drazyor]

This is the moment where you understand they don't hate each other

[@matiasvaldez6509]

Drazyor They dont hate each other, like it or not, they are brothers, at least liquid "Spirit" is.

[@mirrorslul]

Actually "You're pretty good"quote is the best moment in this video

[@pickupvillage]

All moments are good but 6:05 has to be the best!

[@samturrett]

pickupvillage Oh yeah, i fucking love that scene.

[@Rparhar91]

It's even more epic when you think that this is the son of The Boss and the son of Big Boss fighting each other!

[@charcharmunr]

I like how the fight ends up. It's not Solid Snake and Liquid fighting. It's just two old men slugging at each other.

[@natediaz1863]

Nostalgia done right. That's what MGS4 was and I appreciate it to this day.

[@LumendeLumen]

Metal Gear Solid final boss: Pretty smart Metal Gear Solid 3 final boss: Pretty fuckin' smart Metal Gear Solid 4 final boss: FUCKING GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENIUSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

[@Alienworkshop995]

heh. Egoraptor Sequilitis reference. Nice.

[@LumendeLumen]

Thanks O3O

[@CamperCarl]

Guessing Solidus wasn't to your liking?

[@KeybladeKnight14]

Not sure if Solidus hater or Solidus hater

[@LumendeLumen]

KeybladeKnight14 l0l 1'm a S01idu5 h8t0r.

[@nothajzl]

6:07 i’m not crying, you are!😭

[@linuskentr]

Such a good moment. The music is phenomenal.

[@AltairAuditore]

This fight is like the perfect balance between nostalgia and a "next gen" experience.

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

Only part of the game they were able to accomplish that

[@manduheavyvazquez5268]

7:36 the best theme ever. Greatness

[@ArcienPlaysGames]

I had chills through all of the cutscenes. This is too good.

[@johndoejr.7180]

WipEout, dnb vids, now Metal Gear? You're everywhere!

[@ArcienPlaysGames]

What can I say? It's three things I love.

[@greywalker505]

It's not too good. It's..."Pretty good."

[@most458]

When Snake Eater plays...the shit goes real!

[@thetalkinganvil8366]

It goes real when you see the health bars imo.

[@TNinja0]

***** You know they cased for the battle when the HP bar changes from the boss phase to be like the games it represents.

[@thetalkinganvil8366]

That's what i'm saying yo!

[@NovaWolf01]

6:47 when brothers have their 1st hug in life... As old men.

[@Dante...]

This whole fight is just Ocelot enjoying the greatest moment of his life.

[@Mobius_118]

Who agrees that Outer Haven should've been a stage for Ultimate in place of Shadow Moses?

[@chrisseger2346]

In place? Absolutely not. As a completely new stage? Fuck yeah.

[@DanielValentin0508]

Liquid for smash

[@joekreissl4499]

@@DanielValentin0508 I want another mgs rep so fucking bad I know it's never gonna happen but goddamn imagine big boss liquid or raiden as characters

[@anon3863]

Anyone else notice how Ocelot's name changed as the lifebars evolved? MGS1: Liquid MGS2: Liquid Ocelot MGS3: Ocelot *He knew what he was doing the whole time. Liquid wasn't controlling him.*

[@Kiivas]

Just the level of presentation quality alone (especially 7:20-7:37) makes this fight once of the best of all time. If you saw just gameplay of this, like 2 ragdolls in a wrestling match or something, it might be shit. But the Music, the Animation, and all the Emotions leading up to this fight... Even better is, if you don't know Metal Gear's history all that well (no one blames you), all the emotions of the fight, all the respect/rivalry shown between these two characters throughout the series, is exemplified before the real fight, which only sweetens everything. This scene knows what it wants to be, then expects higher than that, and then surpasses those expectations. Kojima confirmed Legendary Director

[@battlepower777]

+epicgamer5009 what makes him so legendary is his attention to detail, even the smallest things show significance and he is able to say and express so much to through the tiniest of things. The example i'm referring to here is the names changing on the health bars. When snake eater started playing and the names changed to Naked Snake and Ocelot i dropped my controller and flipped out for about 20 minutes cause it hit me that hard! Absolutely brilliant writing

[@Terraqueo22]

The duel between 2 soldiers. Mano a Mano... So much Honor

[@riosrioter3252]

when it comes to metal gear the Close quarters are half real and half as to seeing how snake and liquid fought, those two been through alot of shit. metal gear solid is one of the best campaigns games ever

[@kamalqawlaq2139]

Rios Rioter it is THE best in my opinion. legendary story and they way kojima brings back memories is golden ! MGS is a masterpiece

[@SunyTheSquid]

*Thanks.... THANKS HIDEO FOR ALL!!*

[@franzelagigel9222]

17:32 there...there.....

[@golumred9874]

I loved that part xD i ship it

[@Christian-bz2lc]

Andrei Muntean gotta be freaking out when the mano machines went out lol

[@Jameslawz]

+Andrei Muntean Well The Frogs were female soldiers and we already know how emotional women get without nanomachines imagine what kind of effect 5+ years of bottled up PMS would do to them... *shudders*

[@golumred9874]

***** lol i never liked tumblr xd

[@Jaydawg195]

+Branshee 384 Man I was sitting here having feels and I was like, "Oh no did I miss a feels moment?" And when I saw it, I started to die of laughter.

[@richardcrawford9668]

As someone who played MGS2 and MGS3 as a kid; and always loved the story - this video was touching. The implement of MGS1-2-3 music/Ocelot from MGS3 - it really hit me. Cheers to Kojima for this, it's like it was his farewell to this beautiful story but with tributes to the series as a whole. Ive never even played MSG4 and this scene looked amazing. MGS lore is amazing, really need a book or movie made from it all, or several.

[@UltimoGames]

Kojima also thought it would be his last MGS game, and it shows!

[@UltimoGames]

MGSV is a bit of a 'do it yourself' game..

[@bignatebot7811]

6:30 is the best part. Respect

[@subgamers8351]

6:56 Is my favorite part, I love how they have so much honor that they want a fair fight, instead of liquid just refraining from injecting Solid, they both inject each other.

[@Whatsdogpee]

I felt like it was more than honor, but out of brotherly love. Despite all the trouble they brought each other, no one can understand what they've gone through, emotionally, mentally, etc. better than each other. Both were fighting for what they believed in: the importance of freedom. And let's face it, no matter how much our family may hurt us, we still love them deep down. Still though, when there were no guarantees, both chose to give the other the "health." They wanted their brother to live, to stop the pain they were feeling. It's just tragic that they found themselves unable to realize their goals while the other lives. Anyway, that's just how I always saw it. It made me appreciate the weight of this series and this battle all the more.

[@cnolan9751]

+Sub Gamers what did the injections do?

[@Whatsdogpee]

+Solitary Wolf the injections are the healing items in the game, i believe. they contain nanomachines that heal the body, akin vamp.

[@cnolan9751]

Whatsdogpee thankyou.

[@Damocles178]

+Whatsdogpee Yes that's true. One for Nanomachines as you mentioned (Used by Naomi to cheat death etc) but the one Snake had in-game was different; his was more in relation to restoring psyche rather than actual health. His didn't have nanomachine activity as the injections actually temporarily suppress Nanomachine activity which was why Vamp could finally be killed and Snake could temporarily break free of Screaming Mantis' mind control as she could only control people through nano machines. :)

[@DragONheart27X]

Ocelot is such a badass. During MGS and MGS2 I thought he was just a typical bad guy, but the more the series progresses and the more we got to know him the more he seems badass.

[@shohmyoh]

The first 7 and a half minutes gives me chills. They are just so primal and start matching each other blow for blow. Then they power up the other so they can settle the decades long battles they have been waging against one another

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

The way liquid flings away his shades at 3:18 is so badass!

[@wolfwing1]

did anyone else fail this fight first time because you didn't realize it was interactive? I thought it was just the regular cutscene.

[@Vibrioidimp7]

To think that everything that ever happened in the Metal Gear series ultimately came to this - a final, epic, face-to-face fist fight between the son of The Boss, and the son of Big Boss. Complete with nostalgic music and health bars too. It's this fight in the game that finally makes you realize that this whole final encounter between Solid and Liquid is completely pointless. They've served the only purpose they were made for - to fight - with nothing more to do, yet they keep on fighting. As difficult as the franchise's story is to follow, it really is a gem of a series. The music, gameplay, characters, I love all of it. Metal Gear will always be, at least in my opinion, one of the greatest video game series ever created... And I wouldn't trade it for anything.

[@jsztx2117]

you know they are brothers right and their ''father'' is naked snake but youre right best gaming franchise

[@Vibrioidimp7]

@@jsztx2117 I know, but it isnt really Liquid, it's just Ocelot pretending to be Liquid through drugs, hypnosis, nanomachines, and psychotherapy. Pretty convincing act, I must say

[@roddcozmo137]

@@jsztx2117Nope, it’s Ocelot

[@silverflight01]

MGS3 ended with Naked Snake fighting 1-on-1 against The Boss. MGS4 ended with their sons doing the same. Best way the Solid timeline could end