The Metal Gear Solid That Never Was - Game Documentary

[@trucctrucc206]

hi, i was an editor for Metal Gear Wiki not too long ago, and i was the guy responsible for making the page for Metal Gear Solid: Rising there. You got a few newer details i never learned about, which i do find interesting, but i gotta clear a thing that i found wrong, the concept art section, you show some of the art that i've added to that page. Personal story here, when i was editing the page for MGS:R, i decided to go to that Wiki's Metal Gear Rising page. On it, when i scrolled down to see if there's any MGS:R content, i found like a butt-load of shinkawa art and one sculpture he probably did (as he did one for Metal Gear REX and Raiden) (the one with a cyborg that has a slung M4 carbine on it's back, with a cyborg baby attached to it). I essentially assumed it was MGS:R content just laying dormant for a decade in the wiki, so i downloaded all of that content and i put it there on the page. Thing seemed fishy though, since why would this MGS:R content be lying around there for no reason? so i started digging, and found on Internet Archive "art of yoji shinkawa", which is essentially another Shinkawa artbook, BUT, with a twist. One of the books that were scanned, that being " The Art Of Yoji Shinkawa: Sketch Book" features some of the concept art you've put in the video, but in higher quality! (archive.org/details/artbook-art_of_yoji_shinkawa/page/n47/mode/2up). This led me to believe that some, if not most of the concept art, was either the real deal, or Shinkawa's personal drawings, which i did mention on that page, "Although it should be noted that half of these concept arts also appear in The Art Of Yoji Shinkawa: Volume 3 "Sketch Book" in a much higher quality. Whenever or not these character and mecha designs were created for Metal Gear Solid: Rising or were just Shinkawa's personal drawing tests/recreational drawing that he created in the meantime is up to debate." That's all from me, peace.

[@SecondActYouTube]

@trucctrucc245 Thank you for clearing this up! I may need to release a short follow-up to clarify this. Thank you for the heads up and thank you for your contributions to the Wiki as it was helpful for me.

[@GuyOnAChair]

Based. 🫡

[@soh1430]

Finally someone talked about the original form of MGR: R.

[@nowonmetube]

You mean MGS5: Rising ?

[@GamerGuy2k25]

In 2012 he wanted to make Rising 2 with Grey fox vs Nanomachines zombies. In 2013 he also wanted to make a zombie game. You earned a sub more metal gear documentries

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you so much for watching! He sure did! We've got the next video in production already and that may be mentioned in there 👀

[@Megaritz]

I hope the script for MGSR is leaked or released someday. I'm very curious what the plan was for the story in between MGS2 and MGS4 in detail, especially since I always found the lore between those two games to be very important but very thinly developed in MGS4 itself. Really cool to get what details are in this video, I'd never heard them before. Great video.

[@fattycat6125]

I've been documenting unused content in Revengance for a while now. In regards to Boris being apart of "Stribog Consulting", the green hooded enemy as seen in the Revengance VGA 2011 trailer, actually has it's model left over in Revengance's demo. He sports textures with the same Stribog logo on him in complete color too. His design was created for MGS: Rising, and he has proper concept art. I assume he was used in the VGA 2011 trailer as a placeholder at the time. He is one of the very few MGS: Rising assets that we still have. This is a fantastically made video. Glad to see this being spread out there, amazing work! :)

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you so much and that's really interesting information! I'd definitely had put that in the documentary had I found that information! I really liked those hooded enemies, I'd live to see them put back into MGRR.

[@TheVoldoSSS]

Glad to see you here, FattyCat. Also I want to say a big thanks for author's video and people who worked on it in general (3 people), a lot of content I've seen here. Yeah, I knew about more than half of it, even Solid: Rising's plot leak wasn't new for me, but I didn't knew the plot itself except for Boris piloting GRAD and antagonist named "Wexler". My comments and theories to the video: 1. This makes think, if "Black"/"Dark" Raiden is signifies a bad side of Raiden in MGS:R, and then he gets his "White" body, which is signifies "justice side" of him, then would it mean that PlatinumGames in final version wanted to show Raiden, which is goes from good side (White body) to the bad side (Black body)? Kills a lot of cyborgs, which is Kevin tells Raiden about, Sam and Monsoon speech in R-03, and then, at the of the game, Raiden starts to think exactly same as Senator Armstrong. This could be just a bullshit, and not even make any sense or connection, same as next theory, but, why not. 2. "Raijin" (Thunder/Lightning god, Raiden) and "Fujin" (God of Wind) especially similar to the Raiden meeting Boris (originally) from Stribog Consulting Inc. in MGS:R. But how is it makes sense, you can ask me? Well, Boris is from Russia, right? Right. Stribog in old slavic mythology means: "God of Wind" and, as far as I know also Destruction. Again, it might be make no sense, but I found pretty much similarities between it. Stribog - Wind, Desperado - Final version of Stribog, PMC with a group named "Wind Of Destruction". This is all, thanks anyone who read that.

[@SecondActYouTube]

@TheVoldoSSS 2. Is a genuinely brilliant theory I would have never thought of! I agree with your point in 1. and believe that was absolutely intentional. The original story started with a black armored, evil Raiden and was redeemed as the heroic white armored Raiden. Revengeance I think pretty clearly reversed this as you pointed out that Raiden *starts* Revengeance with the white armor, a bona-fide hero, but falls deeper back into his old, evil ways as Jack the Ripper as the game goes along. The real question is, what kind of armor would Raiden be wearing in a Metal Gear Rising sequel? Anyway, thanks for watching this video!

[@Farron6]

The algorithm delivered this day. Great video

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@@Farron6 Thank you very much!!

[@chaoticfox6271]

This was a really well crafted documentary, even with me knowing the whole story and lore behind the development of Metal Gear Solid Rising and Metal Gear Rising, I was still fully engaged with this documentary. Good job my friend ❤

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[@clown1629]

Really good video, I actually learned a lot of things I had no idea about. Looking forward for more, the editing is excellent.

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you very much! It's a little tricky finding information about Solid: Rising so I hope this video is useful for folks. There will be more to come!

[@amansavant707]

wait this isn't a multi million subscriber team project, the production quality is insane

[@SecondActYouTube]

@amansavant707 Thank you very much! This was a 3 man job but I put a lot of love into this, thank you.

[@strayed1615]

It is funny how many fan theories can be created from a story we never had as canon, just by trying to apply it in the canon story we did get.

[@SecondActYouTube]

All of Konami's sins would be forgiven if they would try again at the Solid: Rising project.

[@strayed1615]

@@SecondActKZbin From the way it looks, the original story for Rising really is too hard to fit with what is already established now. Kojima really does try to do too much and then it gets reigned in later. As much as I do like MGSRR and the content we got for after MGS4 Raiden, it is a shame we never got the sick and polished blade mode we saw at E3.

[@nowonmetube]

All the time

[@cristianlopez_8486]

​@strayed1615 I'd would like to see some story elements from the Solid Rising draft be elaborated and fleshed out at the very least. Certainly Raiden's initial failed attempt to rescue Sunny and his capture/transformation into a cyborg (kinda reminds me a bit of Robocop's origin).

[@strayed1615]

@@cristianlopez_8486 It was his attempt to rescue Big Boss that got him turned into a cyborg and then having to be rescued by Big Mama.

[@albert3466]

Amazing video man the production is insane. Glad to see someone cover the original concept of MGS Rising in so much detail. I would love to see this game resurface in some form, as unlikely as that would be.

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you so much! I really believed there was an important story to preserve in the development of MGS Rising.

[@LiquidEights]

Great video. There's information here that I've only seen in interviews before; I never got around to making anything out of that stuff, but you did. Thanks for staying on-topic and only talking about MGS:R! (Edit: Oh yeah, I wanted to mention, I recall one of those DYKG videos talking about how the first zandatsu demo was pre-rendered because it couldn't run even at 15FPS).

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you very much for watching! I actually opted not to include DYKG's information about the Rising trailer being pre-rendered because I don't believe it. I'm not saying it's impossible but I'm wondering if that was a mistranslation or something. I don't think Kojima Productions would put out a pre-rendered trailer and we saw a live demonstration of the game at TGS 2010. I could also be full of shit! I probably should have included it anyway since it was part of the leak.

[@LiquidEights]

@@SecondActKZbin It's a strange claim for sure! Maybe the demo couldn't run on actual PS3 hardware at the time (consumer or devkit), but it clearly existed and might have worked on the computers they had in the studio. So it's possible whoever they interviewed said "it couldn't run on actual hardware" and the DYKG writers assumed that meant it was pre-rendered, rather than being playable on an entirely different machine than PS3. Who knows.

[@WinteerZ2007]

man what channel is this so professional!

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[@RSpectives]

I really feel like a second game could be made for metal gear rising. The community is still strong 11 years later bringing in new fans on a daily basis, plus bits from mgs:r can still be used for this new story that could be a sequel to rising or a bridge between mgs2 and mgs4

[@Poketroid23]

If Delta is successful, Konami might bring more games from the franchise. The truth is that this game had very slow and weak launch sales due to the change in direction from previous Metal Gear titles, Konami would have never considered a sequel. However, given the age of sequels and remakes we seem to be stuck in, they might actually try it, and it would be awesome.

[@bigphil2695]

Who was worse to Raiden?: Solidus - who made him a child soldier The Patriot AI - who forced him into the S3 program Wexler - who ripped off his chin and made him a cyborg Rosemary - we all know what she did Kojima productions - who cancelled his game

[@SecondActYouTube]

I think the worst was Chuck Norris after he got to Paz before she tried to jump off of Mother Base.

[@bigphil2695]

@@SecondActKZbin this is the Route 66 joke of Second Act

[@llab3903]

Rosemary.

[@EugenePoole94]

Platinum who turned him into a forgettable edgelord

[@Oraoraoraorra]

​@@EugenePoole94shut up

[@kennethblakeharvey5111]

That was an awesome video! Very dope! Thanks for making that!

[@SecondActYouTube]

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[@tenebrisanima9604]

I loved this documentary. Didn't know much of the history of Rising

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[@SethZealot]

Awesome job. This was a great video

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[@urdatninja]

Some of these details were unknown to me and I was very interested in the rising project for years, still insane how the tech beta was never leaked or released to the public, I do hope they come back to it to fill in that gap from the story since MGS is finding it's way back (one can dream at least). As an aspiring and completely amateur video editor, props to you guys for the amazing production quality.

[@sagewaterdragon]

Between FF Versus XIII and MGS Rising, the early 2010s were a real weird time for ambitious and dark Japanese games that got repurposed into something else when they failed to release.

[@840car]

What a very good video man! since I saw that trailer the first time I always wondered what happened to the original project.Keep it up!

[@SecondActYouTube]

@@840car Thank you very much for watching!!

[@HyperDefective]

Awesome video. Instant sub, the algorithm is putting in work today!

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[@arakito]

God bless tjis algorithm. This video ks fucking sick. Keep the good work on!!!

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[@dmore454]

No reason a second revengeance couldn't salvage most if not all of the original planned Rising storyline. Wouldn't be the first or even second time a Metal Gear sequel jumped backwards in the timeline. And I'd love to see them incorporate some of the "hunter" stealth gameplay elements from the original concept (having him start as a character who needs to avoid combat due to low familiarity with his cyborg body seems like the way to do it, then as Raiden gets better at fighting as a cyborg ninja - and the player adapting as well - the level design shifts to be based more and more around what we remember from the first revengeance) Personally, I've always wanted to know more about what happened between games 2 and 4; MGS 3 was great and all, and maybe I'm the only one who felt this way, but I was always kind of bummed out that after getting a semi-cliffhanger ending with the Patriots at the end of 2 that 3 ended up being a flashback story instead of continuing on with Raiden and Solid Snake going after the Patriots, and then after that 4 skips ahead past the ending of 2 with so much stuff for the characters happening offscreen - it almost felt almost like Kojima had a whole other game plot in mind to advance the plot after 2 that would have set up 4 better, but because he came up with the flashback idea for 3 and did that instead, he didn't have the energy/patience to do another whole game that would only be a set-up for the final-pay-off game and decided to just skip ahead to the final-pay-off with 4. But that's just me. Speaking of cyborg ninja games jumping backwards in the timeline - for a long time I wished they'd given us a Gray Fox game, but recently I realized - what would they even do for the plot of that game? It's pretty clear in 1 that he's basically only active as the Cyborg Ninja for the Shadow Moses Incident - there's not much outside of what we see him do in the game for us to do in a Gray Fox Cyborg Ninja game besides play his MGS1 scenes from his perspective. Maybe you could invent things for him to do behind the scenes of MGS1 on Shadow Moses, but that still doesn't give much room for a whole game. You could do a game around his pre-Cyborg Ninja days showing his road to betrayal and joining Big Boss, but if we get another game set in that era, I'd rather it be based around Solid Snake and showing his growth into the hero of MGS1 ala an updated gameplay/graphics remake of the first 2 Metal Gears, basically Solid Snake's MGS3 style origin (am I the only one bothered by the fact that a franchise called Metal Gear *Solid* only has you play as the guy it's named after for 2.25 out of 5 installments? That fans of MGS seem more enamored with Johnny-Come-Latelys like Naked Snake/Big Boss and "Venom" Snake? Am I the only MGS fan who still cares more about *Solid* Snake?!)

[@omi8428]

It's a shame Solid barely gets any attention, the only way we could get some love for him now would be through a MGS1 remake or a remake of the MSX games which would be amazing to see. I believe another reason for the change in MGS3 was due to the backlash against Raiden as the main character which is why its all about Snake/Big Boss. Gray Fox is cool, but I would be very disappointed to see him get a game before MGSR because of how much more could be told with that story.

[@WesleyKhalil]

Great video, bro!

[@SecondActYouTube]

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[@volpe2077]

Very unique angle to look at MGR, nicely done!

[@SecondActYouTube]

@volpe2077 Thank you! Revengeance obviously gets a ton of love online these days, so it was important for me this video is 100% about Solid: Rising.

[@SolidSnake11Official]

Very awesome video.

[@ArtoSaari700]

"I didn't say anything about solid snake" this man is same respect as Akira Toriyama. Shame how things ended is all🙏

[@GoyBenius_0901]

Jamie Christopherson dropping the instrumental version of "The War Still Rages Within" is such a God-send for videos like this 😂😂

[@SecondActYouTube]

@@GoyBenius_0901 Seriously. Imagine what he could do with a Metal Gear Rising 2 soundtrack 😭

[@TheKrowkaBoo]

I love your mgs videos.

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you very much! We promise there's more to come.

[@TM_Ultra97]

Perfect timing! I just started playing rising again.

[@ELHOUNDmx]

great video my man, always felt a big fomo effect on original rising, and always will

[@SecondActYouTube]

@@ELHOUNDmx Thank you very much! I will always hold on to the hope someone at Konami will eventually leak a playable build of the game. They have to.

[@vvx600]

Great video

[@LocaltheStream]

Great video man! Especially to have >1k subs Your passion is evident

[@SecondActYouTube]

@LocaltheStream Thank you very much! Yes, I believed very strongly the complete story behind Solid: Rising deserved to be preserved.

[@LocaltheStream]

@SecondActKZbin seeing this video, I agree completely

[@p5rsona]

i was super bummed when i saw the final result of rising, such a departure from mgs4 at the time and from looks of this leak, we truly missed out on a great game.

[@MoldyMojoMonkey]

Those story details sound interesting. I remember being massively disappointed at the time when I found out the story was moving to a post MGS4 setting.

[@__tengu__]

Since MGS2, Hideo Kojima has been trying to write David Hayter out of the series.

[@SecondActYouTube]

Poor David. He gave so much of himself to Metal Gear but was always just kind of a means to an end.

[@SolidSnake240]

Wish we could've gotten more destructible environments in the final game. Wish we got more games like that in general with how powerful the tech is now. Im surprised we haven't gotten more action games with fully destructible environments.

[@Phamtto]

35:20 I guess it was going to be during the searching of Madnar that Raiden found that chaman who taught him the arts of scouting that he mentioned during a codec call in South America in MGS4, or maybe that would happened before the game? Idk I think it would be fun to learn those abilities in game

[@WastedCarnage]

The dev build is out there just sitting and kept away. It really is such a shame we didn't get this. We live in a timeline where the games we could of gotten will never release.

[@miketaylor6298]

Oh this is gonna be some GOOD SHIT

[@ibrews]

Great work!!😊

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you so much!

[@DRDHOLE1]

Great documentary. I would give anything to play MGS RISING in the fox engine.

[@SecondActYouTube]

@@DRDHOLE1 I still have my fingers crossed a playable build will leak someday similar to the recent Star Wars Battlefront 3 leaks 🥲

[@Profar26]

Amazing documentary. Well scripted, well researched, well narrated, and well edited. Everything about the video is SOLID (See what I did there? 😅) I was a late fan of Metal Gear Solid. I got into the series in 2013 because of a friend. I have only played MGS 1, 2 and 3. I haven't played MGS4, since I never owned a PS3, and that game is still stuck as a PS3 exclusive. I need to try out MGR:R honestly, since I am a fan of hack 'n' slash myself.

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you very much, Profar! I think as a Dynasty Warriors fan you should absolutely play Metal Gear Rising if no other Metal Gear game, that seems right up your alley. This comment is very solid, we appreciate your support!

[@Punmaster.miller]

I waited waaaay too long before watching this video, but I enjoyed every second of it. It's also very interesting, because i had no clue about this game, and was very confused to why so many fans called Mgr:R Metal Gear Solid Rising. I will definitely share it to my brother in the hope that he finally gets interested by this masterpiece of a franchise (he sadly refuses to play any other game than Rising) I was also very surprised (and kind of honored) to see my username in the credits at the end :v But i'm glad to be among your followers, and i'm eagerly waiting for more content !!!

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you very much! Yes, this video is very much dedicated to you and the other loyal followers of our Instagram page as you're all some of the biggest motivation to produce this content. We hope your brother soon plays MGS🫡 thank you for watching!

[@Adsn.]

Great vid

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[@morsecode980]

Ever since first hearing about Rising, I had the idea to name a revised version of it: “Metal Gear Rising: Origins.”

[@taitenguerrero2030]

Metal Gear Rising Revengance to this day is my favorite video game of all time. I can't even remember how or why I got it. I've never played or even knew about Metal Gear before, but I still stumbled across the game and got it on a whim when it was on sale. Little did I know how life changing it would be to me, I've singlehandedly played it at least 6+ times on each difficulty, mastering the mechanics of the parry/block system, I have the OST's in my Playlists, and every few months without fail I always come back to it and replay it. But besides all that, I've never known any information about my favorite game, its creation, history, or anything from this video until now. Which is why I've got to say thank you for this, and without doubt I'm definitely going to delve deeper into Metal Gear lore in anticipation of the possibility this new game is a sequel to MGRR.

[@Halfinchhulk]

Great video 👌

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you so much! We worked very hard on this!

[@nicolasray1571]

Great video! I enjoyed watching news footage about a game I remember following very closely. Spike TV!

[@SecondActYouTube]

It was a great trip down memory lane having an excuse to watch so many Spike TV clips putting this together! Thanks for watching!

[@jimmyspace5839]

I still really wish we got this version. I love RR but Raidens whole backstory to becoming a cyborg is so much more intriguing then an epilogue where he character development goes backwards.

[@Jupirnier]

Great video. There's still some stuff I'm wondering about that will probably remain unanswered for a long while. While Raiden's brown eyes probably can be tied to nanomachines (similar to Armstrong in MGR:R), I'm still not sure about his barcode & bolts, skin seams and the eyepatch since he lacks them all in MGS4. The "Grave Zero" concept art confuses me a lot. Judging by one of concept arts in MGR:R's art book (where Raiden's driving a motorcycle with Blade Wolf running alongside him), I believe black cyborg body with a helmet is actually Raiden, although "Grave Zero" name is still pretty mysterious to me and I wonder if it has any actual meaning behind it. I wonder whether Stribog Consulting's activities were similar to Maverick's or Desperado's. (reeeally unsure about this part) The prologue also confuses me a bit. It doesn't mention anything about Big Boss's body, even despite the fact that Raiden "was asked to rescue his body in exchange of Sunny's location", and not even Boris is mentioned there for whatever reason. Also I wonder if Raiden drifting around the globe and ending up in Alaska part was supposed to be shown in the game. (or perhaps it was related to those assassination missions?)

[@operatorsolidsnake2542]

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[@BigBoss1292]

I’ll always have a gripe against the Rising that we got because I desperate wanted the game that the original was supposed to be.

[@aceacerson2252]

Me: still living on the cliffhanger of how raiden saved sunny because mgs4 and mgsRR never explain it in the core dialog and I probably didn’t care enough to search for an optional codec call because I felt like I was promised a story focused on it.

[@DarkNekoStudio]

And I've been wanting an MGS with the cobra unit...damn you employee

[@Herbit-k4j]

This would have been really cool as a VR game

[@biggreen1456]

What they could do is make a new rising game set in this time period with the controls/gameplay of what Revengence was, there wouldnt be too much needed to be changed besides Raiden's design

[@HoraceInkling]

I already know all of this, mostly, but still a well-produced doc.

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you!

[@Grant918Tulsa]

I was at the midnight release when that was a thing.

[@warrenellis1023]

Was disappointed with rising’s pivot to platinum at the time. It was a fun action game but I wanted the original fox engine version. In hearing the story details here for the first time… ugh… that would’ve been so good.

[@acidreighn]

i still want to see that story... take that story and put it into "Revengeance 2" or whatever they wanna call it. Would be mad hype.

[@Killtrobal]

Fucking good game. Totally unexpected. The adding of Platinum games rocked it.

[@blackmesacake5361]

Man what a shame that original version of the game didnt come to pass, do hope we get a sequel one day tho!

[@cam-inf-4w5]

This would have been one of the 2 most important mgs games.....

[@feralstokes]

Let me just say the hype was so real for this game.

[@SecondActYouTube]

It was. I probably revisit the E3 2010 gameplay trailer once a year at least (hence making a documentary)

[@feralstokes]

@ Well done sir! You have earned the Sub. Keep it coming 👊🏽

[@micksjones5922]

I love this game, I got it on psvita HD, double feature 2 and 3

[@SecondActYouTube]

I didn't play a lot of MGS2 and MGS3 on the Vita but I recently finished the whole saga on Steam Deck🤟

[@MrDumdumkilla]

I still remember actively trying to find anything new on this, then one day the trailer to revengece came out and I was like huh? 😂

[@SecondActYouTube]

Yup! I religiously followed anything that would be released about this game from 2009 - 2011, me and my brother crowded around his laptop to watch the Revengeance reveal trailer and I don't think either of us to this day could adequately describe the confusion we felt that night.

[@l3b0wzki]

First excellent job! I wish solid rising was completed instead of revengeance .-. Ps: the enviroment from the zandatsu trailer may be tha map called “tomb of tubes” from mgo2 but runnin in fox engine

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you very much! I imagine you're probably right that it's a map from MGS4, considering this would be a lot of work to make from scratch for a trailer. Wish someone inside Konami would leak whatever was finished for Rising 😭

[@l3b0wzki]

@@SecondActKZbin with the “new konami” working on delta and mgs volume 2, I want to be optimistic! That storyline was so dark, raiden even metioned about an alaska mentor while searching for sunny who thought him everything he knew about hunting 🤔 (and he thought it to snake in chapter 2) btw finger crossed bro 💪🏻 can’t wait for other mgs details videos

[@lincer556]

36:45, or it's prequel

[@KunaX3]

I need this game so bad

[@safian1232]

At 5:10 what was that footage of raiden in a suit jumping off the roof?

[@SecondActYouTube]

This is an old April Fools trailer for MGS4 that featured Roy Campbell as a cyborg ninja. Source: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXeQfWh4aMmli68

[@nowonmetube]

I wish we got the game they made. Honestly in having the freedom of cutting everything at will, may make it too easy, but who cares? Thinking about the freedom of Breath of the Wild and that "lifes" in gaming aren't important anymore, it would have been a massive hit!

[@davidwhatsthatabout7404]

I think the only thing I didn’t like about MGS rising was how short it was.

[@SecondActYouTube]

That 6 - 7 hour runtime is pretty brutal, the game was actually developed in only nine months, though, so it's a miracle they completed as much as they did.

[@Killtrobal]

I dont't know how this game has not been planed for HD relaunch or "remake"

[@DarksideStreams]

Because it would be stupid, just like the current one being remade

[@Killtrobal]

@@DarksideStreams yes, i agree it's not needed.... it just wonders me considering the shark mentality of companies.

[@tiredidealist]

Nice tags. I guess they worked to some degree because I'm here lmao

[@SecondActYouTube]

Trying to stay ahead of the algorithm.

[@turboslayerX]

Hej, man can you please tell me what is that tune in the end of your video? Great documentary by the way.

[@SecondActYouTube]

@@turboslayerX Thank you! This is the theme in question: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a320eJ-Ql9iniacsi=1-m4F5z3ZnT4WnBn

[@turboslayerX]

@@SecondActKZbin Thank you so much!

[@dicembre15_mat]

This game is the reason why i say Revengence is not Canon as the dark raiden design was the one he used in canon before mgs4. Not hating on Revengence, i love it but peaple gotta face the fact that it is not canon (Beatifull video btw, you have talent my friend)

[@abagaololo]

I'm sorry but you are the one who has to face the fact that it's canon

[@dicembre15_mat]

@abagaololo It quite the opposite to be honest

[@abagaololo]

@@dicembre15_mat sure keep telling yourself that👍🏼

[@SecondActYouTube]

Thank you very much for watching! I do like Revengeance and it's certainly better than getting nothing at all - but I do think KJP was on to something genuinely groundbreaking with Solid: Rising.

[@dicembre15_mat]

@SecondActKZbin Agree, they could have at least gave us the demo that they showed

[@paulstaker8861]

Alright indies, we got the scipt. Tme to make the game, boys!

[@dri_him]

32:43 yes this is what I came for, everything else I already knew

[@SecondActYouTube]

@@dri_him Hope you enjoyed!

[@SecondActYouTube]

We'll be uploading a clip of just the animations soon as I'm sure there are a lot of folks that are just interested in the final bit.

[@dri_him]

@@SecondActKZbin awesome, keep up the great work. Laugh and grow fat!

[@OGP2293]

Raiden is my comfort character

[@DarkNekoStudio]

And there was only one Rising....

[@Rottenishere]

So, I have a bit to say about this canceled game. While I’m rather new to the metal gear franchise, I’ve had an interest in what could have been mgs rising. Despite my love for rising revengance, the game had multiple shortcomings that were hard to ignore in my eyes.(no real form of weapon switching, the main campaign being rather short, and the fact that the alternative weapons aren’t really that interesting.) While I would like a new rising-like game from the franchise, I don’t think just lifting up the original story of solid rising would work to well. From what I’ve seen about the plot, it has a more revenge styled story or MGS V and (technically) the full release of rising itself, with sunny being rescued early in the plot on for Raiden to get his ass kicked by the patriots for the rest of game. I personally find this rather boring for a variety of reasons, but I’d rather not get into them. I do have a whole idea of a reimagining of what could have been under a different title, but I’d rather not go over everything about it at this moment.

[@phillipsoto8505]

Metal Gear Rising: Prevengeance

[@Lord_of_Dread]

I have never seen Kojima speak english before... I would've been way more interested in the KJP version of rising. The story, the tech, the characters, all seem way more interesting that what we got in the end. I tried to play Reveangence but I didn't get on with it and the story being set after 4 really wasn't of interest to me.

[@khallous]

How interesting, I always figured Raidens capture and forced transformation into a cyborg would be less brutal and more… meticulous and scientific. A sociopathic science project by the Patriot AI on a living human to turn Jack into an experimental weapon. Still violent and gruesome, but less emotional, less human, more alien. This felt especially relevant given that we knew the story would take place around Area 51. Strange

[@SecondActYouTube]

I agree as I always assumed the story was Raiden was captured and thrown in a cell somewhere, and then the Patriots just said "well shit this guy is a pretty capable solider, let's run some cybernetic enhancement experiments on him and see what happens". I guess they really wanted to make sure there were really personal stakes and someone to get revenge on. By the way, thank you for watching!

[@khallous]

@ aw man thank you for uploading! This is a video I’ve always wanted to see, you brought answers and a sense of closure I always sought. You did a great job detailing Rising and you definitely got my sub. Wishing you well and happy new year!

[@kochoshi3208]

Can you cover a story about history of english translation of MGS1? It's pretty much tragic in a way and the translation pretty much shaped up MGS we know today by one man. I hope you'd find it interesting.

[@SecondActYouTube]

I don't know much about this! I will keep it in mind🫡

[@nerdodragonnerdpl4167]

Mayby insteed of waiting on kojima someone should take this ideas and make own series

[@GREYBUSH85]

It took platinum game 3 years to develop revengance. I wonder if they had just given the Rising team those 3 years would it have been enough to overcome their issues with the game.

[@SecondActYouTube]

You'll probably be surprised to hear the main development of Metal Gear Rising was actually only nine months! Here's a great video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZnZZqmpfbR4iJYsi=75kbAGWXVn9100cr

[@SecondActYouTube]

You'll probably be surprised to hear the main development of Metal Gear Rising was actually only nine months! Here's a great video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZnZZqmpfbR4iJYsi=75kbAGWXVn9100cr

[@tallman1184]

Anyone know what the song is that plays during credits portion of the video?

[@SecondActYouTube]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a320eJ-Ql9iniacsi=UkqWXnrKhPYZxMCb

[@bigphil2695]

"That's gonna be great" - George Lucas

[@xanderlee4733]

Konami need to resell the metal Gear IP back to Kojima they cannot handle that series on their own. All they can do is remake metal gear, metal gear 2 solid snake, Snakes revenge, Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid 2 Sons of Liberty, Portable ops, Peace Walker and ghost Babel.

[@SecondActYouTube]

I sincerely doubt Konami would ever sell Metal Gear to Kojima Productions.

[@xanderlee4733]

@SecondActKZbin It's a shame.

[@andrewk7750]

I honestly believe that kojima and his ego is one of the main reasons this game didn’t get released as it was intended. This story could have been way better than mgs4 imo I was beyond hyped for this. What we got was pathetic in comparison.

[@SecondActYouTube]

While I don't agree that Metal Gear Rising is pathetic, I have to admit I don't think Revengeance compliments the Metal Gear legacy in the same way Solid: Rising could have. Solid: Rising was supposed to realize Kojima's goal of passing Metal Gear down to his younger staff but instead it got shipped overseas to a completely separate studio. I wish the original Rising team could have figured out the game design as I think they were onto something groundbreaking, genuinely.

[@mailmanwilly]

Revengeance is pathetic? Unrepentant hater behavior.

[@andrewk7750]

@@mailmanwilly not a hater lol I bought it day one on 360. Just didn’t care for it. I think PERSONALLY the original Rising story would be better than what we got. Again, “in my opinion”

[@DarksideStreams]

Ever popular? I don't remember being all that well received. It's a decent game, but not a slam dunk. The canceled one would have been really interesting

[@SecondActYouTube]

I might check the Steam reviews if you don't believe MGR has grown in popularity!

[@seanturner1197]

2:07 they made metal gear acid 1 and 2 without him.

[@loregasmic]

That doesn't say much.

[@SecondActYouTube]

Fair point! I assume AC!D were much smaller scale projects than Solid: Rising though and probably weren't super intimidating to make without Mr. Kojima.

[@deandomino6732]

I happen to be one of the few who still believes that solid snake is a closet cat man

[@SecondActYouTube]

That's canon, as of now.

[@tibtab]

10:06 why the needless call out to outlaws. The game was visually and technically stunning and while it was buggy at launch there are much worse examples one can find. Nobody rightfully talks bad about the Witcher 3, despite it being a way worse buggy mess at launch.

[@SecondActYouTube]

It was in good fun. I think Outlaws is a decent game, I also don't think it's polished very well.

[@Vavqu_]

METAL GEAR SOLID: RISING REVENGENCE REDONE -0

[@moonlalune8003]

wow, the story would've been nice, not "nano machines son?"

[@SecondActYouTube]

I still assume Wexler was going to have nanomachine enhancements hence being able to crush Raiden's jaw. But yeah, I doubt that kind of dialogue would have been in Solid: Rising.

[@cam-inf-4w5]

If they stuck with it. It would have gotten a smashing cult success even if they released too early because of cyberpunks hype and the downfall since all that 80s and 90s cyber stuff came back.......