Melvins Lesson: King Buzzo on Co-Producing Houdini with Kurt Cobain

[@iammalloy]

Buzz is not mad about anything except the loss of a friend. Its like saying Id give everything I have for one more day spent with a lost loved one. He would rather have Kurt alive then all the success that they all had because of Nirvana. Dont blow anything out of proportion. If you asked him if your dress made you look fat, and it did (aside from your fat), he would tell you -YES. Thats a real friend.

[@emmaduncan2991]

his anger reminds me of John Lydon's anger over people romanticizing Sid and his drug addiction. Buzz and Dale, would much rather have their friend back, and not deal with the "wounded junkie" bullshit, which is mostly made up of girls who sincerely believe that they could have "fixed" Kurt.

[@InfiniteRhombus]

im glad that you were able to come in here and let everyone know what he was thinking and how he felt at the time, how could we ever kno- oh wait, you dont know shit. they weren't friends, dale played on some of nirvanas early stuff and kurt acted as a roadie for the melvins and buzz was in a band with him for a month or so. Same thing happened with "earth", any person who has ever interacted with kurt in any way is automatically listed as "being best friends", there are a ton of interviews where he says the same thing. Dylan carlson was an associate yet when kurt died everyone came out of the woodwork to talk about them like they were inseperable and hung out every day and were just the best of friends, which wasn't the case at all. He was a drug addict, he died of a drug overdose, there was never some conspiracy or anything like that. He liked getting high and he used too much, shit happens, it would have happened no matter who he hung out or associated himself with.

[@iammalloy]

@@InfiniteRhombus uh....he didnt die of a drug overdose..."he" blew his head off w a shotgun...come on, man!

[@Lucy-cn9ez]

@@iammalloy Courtney set up Kurt.

[@vincent2053]

@@InfiniteRhombus Zzzzzzz

[@yureion]

Buzz and Kurt were friends. He's took up for him many times even after Kurt's death, just look at how he spoke out about Montage of Heck

[@grimmcalypso396]

Hes not bitter hes just not contributing to the KC myth. They treat him like a human being. Mark Deutrom said "just because hes dead doesn't mean we're gonna stop making fun of him". Its all outta love

[@edwidgewhatsosons1727]

Mostly the narratives given to Frances about her Dad. She has her own understandings of who Kurt was from his Mom, who seems to be negligent at best and Courtney who is fucked up. But Frances might have the genetic encoding of knowing really what was Kurt's intentions all along because it runs in her family.

[@InfiniteRhombus]

montage of heck was incredibly stupid bullshit that was hastily thrown together to make it look like there was some sort of deep rooted conspiracy as to why he killed himself when there wasn't.

[@InfiniteRhombus]

@@edwidgewhatsosons1727 biology doesn't work that way at all, please read a book.

[@ScreamorSugarMusic]

Yeah, Kurt was a charismatic good looking dude. 25 years later, books and movies still being made about him. When I wanna listen to Nirvana and I pull up the Smart Studio demos and start rocking out though, I’m not thinking about how handsome Kurt was. I’m thinking about how amazing they sounded in 1990, even without Dave Grohl.

[@daBEAGLE1017]

I saw Nirvana in April 90 at the Milwaukee Unicorn while they were in Wisconsin recording that demo. I wasn't blown away with Kurt, I was blown away by Krist who stood close to 7' while the unicorns ceiling was about 7'2". That why I remember them.

[@Spiri7ualShi7]

What he is saying is that you wouldn't even know about Nirvana ir Kurt was ugly. The music would be just as good but the band wouldn't made it big resulting millions of people including you and me to know them, even if we don't give a fuck about looks.

[@triggerdigga5682]

Fuck dave grohl

[@daBEAGLE1017]

@infoslinger i wouldve loved to have seen the Pumpkins before they were huge. Im surprised i didnt due to seeing many bands in the Chicago area during the late 80s/early 90s.

[@GnomeChomsky9999]

@@daBEAGLE1017 Yea, Billy is no prize to look at.. a balding weirdo..

[@ch13f1n]

Butch's producing and the subsequent mastering of Nevermind was what had made it palpable for the masses. That coupled with Kurt's image was the perfect combo for success and exactly what popular music needed at the end of the hair band and synth pop days. I think what makes Roger bitter about it all is that if it never happened then his good friend would still be alive today and they'd be playing (real) venues together to this day. In much the same manner the Melvins are doing it today, intimate settings with good, loyal fans. The fan base that was and would still be there regardless of Nirvana's success. I don't think his bitterness is a product of jealousy at all, more a reflection of how things could have been. I think that at any time over the past 20 years that if the Melvins wanted to produce a chart-topper, by putting aside their own artistic licenses, that they could do it and a big label would pick it up and put it out there. They'd be playing big arenas and opening for Foo Fighters and such. They have the experience, knowledge, connections and talent to do so. That is just not who the Melvins are or ever will be. Roger wants millions to like his music, but that doesn't mean he wants to make music with the sole intent of having millions like it, there's a difference.

[@keithn455]

@PUNK BANTAM Buzz's real name

[@rafaelzengo5534]

Dont forget that the songs on nevermind are good, and they were very well delivered by the band, apart from the good production, marketing, image etc

[@erickh82082]

I enjoy his honesty

[@unjusdorange]

I wonder what Nirvana would've been like if Kurt Cobain would've looked like Fat Albert.

[@cosmovedder1354]

A hip hop version of Blues Traveler minus the harmonica?

[@daBEAGLE1017]

We would've never have heard of the band Nirvana. Image sells and that's why the Melvin's didn't come before Nirvana.

[@omarterritory3568]

You'd get Tad

[@edybocman76]

@@daBEAGLE1017 im not sure about that i mean yeah the melvins guys are ugly by the standars but in nirvana kurt was the only kinda good looking guy dave and krist where just normal dudes and kurt to , but nirvana as a band had a more easy sound to enjoy melvins not they had songs that are hard to get it first latter you enjoy it

[@tomgreenfan]

he would still be pretty iconic tho

[@harvistcrunch]

He's an interesting man to listen to, nice to hear him explain things about the music, guitar playing, riffs.

[@davehoward22]

I had bleach,and saw nirvana's first British gig and didn't have a clue what he looked like or who he was, they were just a band whose album I liked

[@videowifie]

are ye from Newcastle? I think the riverside was thier first uk gig. I was in the locality but unfortunetly was about 5 weeks old.

[@videowifie]

​@@davehoward22 The days when bands tended to start thier tours here, then work down. Before they just missed us out someitimes, in later years. Still, better han now, when there is basically 1%of a live music scene as comparable to then... That must have been a beast of a gig. Tad and mudhoney. I saw Mudhoney in like...2011? maybe, and it was so weird. They look like, the same age as then. And not just like sonic youth do, where they hide behind thier hair, until a gust comes and you go FUCK. Mudhoney legitimately still looked young as fuck. How did the astoria one compare? bleach was never really y favourite album, but as I look through nirvana setlists, i realise that teh order the tracks came out on albums had very little to do with when they were written, and hence played.. so there could have been all sorts on the setlist

[@scarykurapika100yago2]

Stop fucking lying

[@videowifie]

@@scarykurapika100yago2 imagine thinking that seeing a band who toured regularly, not that long ago, who hundreds of thousands of people saw is such an unlikely event. you've got to get out the house more

[@trezmala]

I absolutely love Buzz, dude is a national treasure. Such an amazing and awesome soul.

[@elonmust7470]

Agreed

[@deadroses19]

Pun intended ?

[@rushnerd]

That is the coolest guitar i've ever seen.

[@bigmaz4002]

Electric Guitar Company. Super cool, really expensive!

[@Brian-zc2ip]

Nosferdamus actually today you can get amazing quality guitars at very affordable prices. you just need to do your research. Agile is one of those brands offering high quality at a reasonable rate. the high prices of Gibson and other well know brands has a lot to do with their reputation. heritage. history. exclusivity. that's not in any way taking away from the quality or sound of these instruments. just know if you want that particular brand, it comes with a high price tag. todays market is flooded with great gear and if you're on a tight budget you can still get great quality guitars as long as you're willing to take a chance and are not set on having that premium name on the headstock.

[@witchbvrner]

EGC guitars are expensive because they're made to order. They get an order in and they make it to the specs the customer provides. No mass production.

[@Nosferdamus]

James Gilkey that would drive the price of the wood up, actually.

[@all_invite_0hm]

"chooches like a dream"? Are you an AvE fan, Nosferdamus? =D

[@Feledwards]

King Buzzo! This guy is bad ass! Melvins put on a fantastic show. If you have the chance, catch their show, listen to their albums. Over 30 years in the business, and not everyone knows who the Melvins are.

[@jamedonovan3555]

I love Houdini, Stoner Witch and Stag. They are gateway albums I send others to for an appetizer of Melvins. If they dig it, Senile Animal, Lysol, Bullhead. Still intrigued? Welcome to the full Melvins experience: 10 Songs, Maggot, Electroretard and more...

[@TheFlightofthewalrus]

eh.... The Melvins have a great rhythm section and the songs are well composed, in terms of flow and all, but they don't have beautiful melodies like Nirvana's songs. You can say "the world is messed up for not embracing the Melvins like Nirvana," but I mean it's really hard to invent interesting, cool melodies that are very memorable, and Kurt had a knack for it.

[@terrybrass]

Wounded junkie look. lol. Awesome guitar.

[@rsohlich1]

he does have a point. Without those looks they wouldn't have been as famous. Great music but not that great.

[@Obsequie]

@@rsohlich1 I don’t know. With having a strong punk/metal sense before the grunge blow up, I thought it was great music at the time. @terrybrass those are Kramer guitars with metal necks. Badass heavy guitars. (Physically heavy)

[@ruckusmcscoobs5774]

Kurt took Nirvana in a totally different direction musically then the Melvins. He believed in writing music based on melody and lyrical appeal as to the Melvins are far more experimental then Nirvana ever had the chance to be. The question to ask is where would Nirvana be musically if they would have had a career like the Melvins. Buzz was never afraid to do exactly what he wanted and that freedom has allowed him to become one of the most influential artist today. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Doesn't matter, what does is the friendship that allowed both bands to flourish in the end, and for the record the Melvins were well established in the underground scene when Kurt was just starting to mold Nirvana.

[@ZJtraylor]

I love how honest he is always. It’s not hate or jealousy he’s just real about it.

[@tylurmackinnon6217]

Sounds like pure unfiltered jealously to me

[@johannesmorgaine6515]

Both Buzz and Kurt have been cheeky sods throughout their lives, guys who moved the sign saying "Welcome to Aberdeen" outside a sewer, that sort of thing. Wish it was both of them happily taking the piss out of the industry on some video in a bedroom. Ah, well. At least we still have Buzz. Too many people missed his statement that he'd rather the Nirvana/fame thing never happened and that he still got to have his friend stick around.

[@EFECINCOF5]

he canged my view on so many things, i love melvins because of their sincerity, originality and groove

[@jamesgeary2409]

Interesting prospective ! nirvana was great ,Kurt was great ! Thanks for helping out with the album ! Love you guys thanks for making music ! We are the lucky ones

[@steamjunky5894]

I like Nirvana and The Melvins.....

[@nicksikoryak1467]

Revolutionary thinking.

[@papersensei]

revolutionary thinking.

[@PetrifiedChihuahua]

revolutionary thinking

[@JesusChrist-be9uz]

revolutionary thinking

[@CarlHH777]

+Steam Junky rveutionlray tnihknig

[@frank151]

yo king buzzo is such a legend!

[@piffothegodtv5589]

more like bitter washed up NOTHING

[@aztecwhistle9122]

@@piffothegodtv5589 any fat boys out there ever make it big? Name one

[@Cairo98_]

Image sells. Blonde hair, blue eyes, distinctive face, ripped jeans, cardigan, half strung out from heroin, also damn good talent.

[@Agent-sb5jy]

I . ..at 42 years old...having skipped this record several ...I mean countless times . I am just now feeling it for what it is. Night Goat

[@BenjaminD.McMillan]

I could listen to him talk all day. He has a great attitude.

[@Jackmonster3231]

Wasn't really "on" the Kurt's role as a producer of Houdini, but interesting nonetheless.

[@TheEnlightenedTruth]

I don't find Nirvana's music "better" in terms of melody even necessarily but, they are a sound that appeals to more people and represents more people. That's just how it is, not necessarily for better or for worse.

[@ZachAttackO0]

Respect to buzz for making nirvana happen

[@cosmovedder1354]

Pretty sure Nirvana would still have sold millions of albums even if Kurt was fat, considering Blues Traveler has sold over 10 million albums. Maybe not 75 million, but definitely millions, cuz the songs are just that good.

[@Cairo98_]

Trying to imagine Kurt Cobain being fat... 😂

[@scarykurapika100yago2]

Nahh admit it, his songs are simple and nothing special.. his looks and the "wounded personality" lol was a huge factor to their success.. after they went pop with Nevermind album MTV pushed the good-looking junkie into the mainstream.

[@Cairo98_]

@@scarykurapika100yago2 Yeah but I'll never stop playing them because I love catchy melodies and Kurt Cobain screaming lol. Better singers in that era but something about him that I keep playing his songs. MTV Not So Unplugged is my favourite. 😂🤘

[@cosmovedder1354]

@@scarykurapika100yago2 Yeah the aesthetic helped and a lot of their songs are simple and derivative, but you don't think some of their songs are on par with Blues Traveler? I mean a lot of Blues Traveler's songs are simple and nothing special too, aren't they?

[@Gapgirl-yk4sh]

This notion that all these years later we’d be loving Nirvana bc Kurt was beautiful is ridiculous. Nobody would give af about him if his songs weren’t amazing. The handsomeness is an extra and helped AT THE TIME but isn’t the reason for their longevity. I love Buzz tho and that’s his opinion, which may involve some bitterness. And who can blame him? That potential bitterness is separate from his love for his friend it seems. It’s real endearing the look on his face when talking about Kurts death.

[@blackfireoffire]

pretty late to comment on this but buzzo was never salty about nirvana getting popular, he's upset that kurt killed himself. Kurt was a really close friend of his and he still hates that he killed himself instead of living on to make more music.

[@harvistcrunch]

Buzzo 'I would rather have not had any of that in the first place and him be alive'. Good comment.

[@davidheath6650]

My favorite guitar player of all time.

[@JasonPizzolato]

You chose wisely...

[@sydIRISH]

Just behind Tony Iommi and James Hetfield for greatest riff lord of all time.

[@delhidelirium9091]

Buzz´s guitar absolutely influenced by the latter´s appreciation for PIL´s Keith Levene .

[@TheAsdfghjk59]

What I got out of that, "I WANT HIS GUITAR"

[@ducatipitera4826]

Buzz iz a humble and rad ass dude

[@krautstomperofficial3798]

misleading title is misleading.

[@radioclash84]

Can't take my eyes off that guitar!!!

[@banfasso3109]

If Seth Brundle showed up in Springfield with his telepods to use his crazy science buddy, Sideshow Bob, as a test subject..... and Homer wandered in, tripped and fell in as the door was closing....

[@nathankortleitner]

Melvins are the biggest wave to modern scene with Sonic Youth and Nirvana.

[@HerenowGoneforever]

Deep down it's hard for buzz to talk about it. He loved Kurt.

[@officialmasqq_594]

"If he looked like Fat Albert no one would have given a shit about his music" I am deceased 😂

[@Theeletricminers]

Buzz is completely right ... just watch the Pixies ... if Black Francis have been good looking like Kurt, they would have been the biggest band, in terms of success, of their time, because the songs are great ... but music is never just music ...

[@kichigan1]

You are watching, arguably, one of the inventors of "Grunge".

[@lovelylozette]

He is the grunge, sludge king. No doubt about that. That’s why his hair is so fucking righteous. No crown. Just gnarly hair.

[@evankenney2082]

"The world is not a right place" !!!! Love that shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@stevestevens8749]

Buzz"s attitude was the image that Kurt Cobain portrayed.

[@MG-gt6hp]

i see what he's saying. I never gave the Melvins a try because everyone in the grunge scene cited them as influences, and I hated the whole "woe is me, i'm depressed cuz drugs" shtick back then. Just recently started listening to them, huge fan.

[@JasonPizzolato]

Good on ya for that. The bands in that scene really sound very little like the heavy-ass MELVINS. People tend to lump them together b/c they're from the same general area.

[@Aquais97]

I'm Universal, in which I both like Nirvana and the Melvins

[@stephenfiore9960]

A very down to earth guy. May God Bless You!!

[@galleryofrogues]

I got kinda choked up watching this actually ❤️

[@jodymcdougle8810]

Well spoken. Love your guitar. Is it little or are you large? Always enjoy your playing.

[@redcassette]

its an electrical guitar company/EGC he has his own custom line now i believe. ive owned one of these guitars myself since 2007…

[@okayeffinay1736]

who would you rather have been? jackson pollock or lee krasner? "Better a live dog than a dead lion" (?)

[@thebetbetunderground9548]

Okay Effinay deep cut, my friend.

[@mikailstacy8245]

I realize your comment is years old, ... but damn!! That’s the best comment I’ve come across in awhile

[@SpiralDream]

*takes bong hit*

[@tylerappel8648]

Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, three of the best bands of all time, not just to come out of the 80's and 90's. Personally I think all three should've achieved the same level of success, but unfortunately that's not how the music industry works. They don't just hand out popularity, it's specifically chosen. Like Buzz said, the music was there, the image wasn't. The music is secondary for the most part, being surpassed mostly by image, which The Melvins didn't fit. Kurt had the music and the image, which is why the music industry creamed their pants over him, especially with the release of Nevermind. Of the three Nirvana is my favorite but not because of Kurt, just because the sound is more pleasing to me, especially Insesticide and In Utero.

[@redcassette]

its an electrical guitar company/EGC. google them they make beautiful instruments. i own one myself

[@capane1]

Houdini is a great album

[@younghemingway8285]

Buzz is a weird guy - he makes a decent point by saying Kurt’s popularity was owed to his looks, but they weren’t just “good songs” - Kurt knew how to write really great melodies

[@blakecalliso8104]

Here is what really happened. Buzz and Dale Crover introduced Kurt Cobain into music basically. Kurt Cobain looked up to Buzz and Dale and they even played together at first. Basically The Melvins, which is Buzzo and Dale Crover, taught Kurt Cobain how to play punk music and Kurt started writing songs like The Melvins at first. So then think about this...........you just taught this guy how to play and he is even making music like you and all of a sudden HE blows up, gets famous because he was "more attractive" and The Melvins get left underground......... How do you think that Buzzo and Dale Crover would react? They would have to be a little fucking pissed don't you think?

[@blakecalliso8104]

I mean some of the songs Dale Crover even played drums on. Dale Crover played drums on Incesticide but who the fuck ever mentions that? People are like, man, Kurt Cobain wrote an awesome fucking song on Incesticide, I really do love beeswax, and Dale Crover gets no fucking credit......... When was Dale Crover all over MTV or any of that shit? never. Kids now a days even think that Dave ghoul plays drums on incesticide and no one knows who Dale Crover is. So yeah, I can see why these two guys might be kind of pissed off.

[@DirectorsAccount]

You forget that Kurt also contributed to Melvins' Houdini, yet that album is not lumped together with Nirvana material. Buzzo and Kurt seemed to get along pretty well, and Kurt's fame did not change that.

[@BareBandSubscription]

Except the music that made Nirvana such a success sounded more like the Pixies than the Melvins, so that point is pretty much moot.

[@blakecalliso8104]

everyone sounds like everyone else, you are going to get this shit, you are playing the same instruments.......... It is about creating your own style.....

[@battleboy777]

blake calliso You do know that Kurt asked Dale to join Nirvana when The Melvins were on break, and he turned it down to reunite with Buzz. Then Kurt met Dave Grohl, and the rest is history.

[@RideMyBMW]

min 1:03 Kurts one TRUE friend (and maybe Novoselic).

[@bigmaz4002]

MAYBE Novoselic??? Are you outta your mind? They were brothers homie. And also Dylan Carlson... Read up my dude!!!

[@ot63]

BASED BUZZO

[@NightwingReturns]

Buzz is the Kevin Smith of the Seattle sound.

[@southbaysage]

i initially thought this was gonna be one of those "kurt sold his soul and ruined our scene" videos, but i think buzz kind of exposed how sad all of this makes him. Maybe thats why he has so much antimosity towards it all. A rather close friend off'd himself. Everybody else just split and ran where the money was. I can kind of understand why it would hurt to be the one band who stayed accessible, while everyone else hid in their lake seattle homes.

[@dinosaursdoingtherobot850]

What do you do to keep the neck fast when you hands sweat ?

[@blackcross4433]

Why does Buzz remind me of that cabbie from “Taxi Driver” who gives Travis Bickle that really shitty, nonsense advice when he tells him he’s having violent thoughts outside the coffee shop.

[@tonioshea9870]

lmao. I don't know, but now that you mention it... yes!

[@OLLEnatior]

what is that for guitar he have here? I havent seen anything like it, it seems like it dont have any kind of brand and looks really heavy lol.

[@emmaduncan2991]

Buzz, the only one who calls out any and all the creepy bullshit having to do with his friend, Kurt Cobain, I would rather live in a world where kids, saved their babysitting, and car washing money, in order to buy the new Melvins record, and where teenage girls plastered their walls and school lockers with pictures of Buzz, while the latest by U2 gather dust in the bin...

[@BrightColorVision]

Best laugh ever

[@schopen-hauer]

i was a teen back then do you know what i liked? hendrix.... nirvana couple songs and then million cool bands

[@5urg3x]

The mainstream went to Kurt and Nirvana though...They didn't go to the mainstream.

[@Kornhulio18]

I'm not so sure about that because he really was an ambivalent character. There's a interview with his ex Tracy, where she says "he wanted to get his band going". Combine that with the song structures in Nevermind. He first wanted to call that album " Verse Chorus Verse" because he wrote catchy beatles-like songs. I personally think he imagined, deep down, how'd it be like to be a John Lennon type of figure in the mainstream but when he ultimately got there, he couldn't handle the hype and glorification. Ambivalence is pretty nasty.

[@5urg3x]

Wrong...The "Verse Chorus Verse" title was a joke-title for In Utero, *_not_* Nevermind It ended up becoming a song, and it was released on the "No Alternative" benefit compilation album

[@5urg3x]

You're proving my original comment to be true...Just because Kurt wanted to have his music heard by people doesn't disprove anything. The labels DIDN'T want to give them a chance & Kurt didn't change any damned thing about the way he wrote songs or the music Nirvana made at the behest of any label or even their fans. They always recorded what they wanted and people loved it regardless. The mainstream went to them.

[@TrumpsAssassinator]

@The Internet Killed Music you said buzz statement about his looks was "so true" but then you say its not "100%" right. Well which is then...

[@scarykurapika100yago2]

So true, most of Nirvana fans doesn't even listen to most of their music other than Nevermind and is just obsessed with Kurt Cobain's looks, addiction and death but not the band itself..

[@vernonpurdue928]

Fat Albert was pretty famous and if the makers of SouthPark did more with Fat Abbot he’d be more famous than he was, maybe even more famous that Fat Albert was, and Fat Albert would be more famous than he was if he could play songs people liked, and if Fat Abbot could play songs people liked he’d be more famous than he was, maybe even more famous than Fat Albert could have been even if Fat Albert played songs people like.

[@johnnyb600d9]

What pedal is that on the table ?

[@dreadred92]

That's because you can't pirate a special edition vinyl box set with unique cover art.

[@douglassnazel1703]

One of the great things about the interview above it calls out Hotter than Hell which is an "underrated" record that even some die-hard KISS fans dismiss too easily. Fuck Strutter, listen to Parasite, Goin Blind and Strange Ways. It's the basic fabric of "sludge" that would influence the Seattle sound in the 80's.

[@deadinthewater218]

Image never matters to me. Music is either good or bad.

[@evanabbott2737]

I’m loving that all metal guitar😁👍

[@andrepereira744]

I still can't understand Buzz point of view on Nirvana/Kurt matter. Sometimes is bitter,then ironic,then critical. Other times,he look like is not saying everything....I know they use to be friends,but feels weird

[@harrymonk6]

Its because kurt sold out like a bitch

[@spechrome8929]

Revolutionary thinking

[@chrisradstorgoff7715]

I love Buzz. He's so American.

[@VendPrekmurec]

Well said Buzz.

[@JohnDoe-yr4wc]

Yes, quite right upon checking my facts.

[@SpicyDonuts]

WHAT IS THAT 6 STRING BEAUTY HE'S HOLDING!!?!?

[@ericbishop2369]

someone please fix the closed captioning

[@hulagu3068]

Fucking legend.

[@cs292]

Buzz seems like Robert Smith’s more stable cousin.

[@TacoTuesdayButEveryday]

He gets a bad wrap a lot of time, but I thibk his view of Nirvana and everything is tainted because in the end, he lost a friend. I can't say I wouldn't still be bitter 25+ years later if I lost someone that was very near and dear to my heart.

[@skelleytor]

Dude was murdered, Why haven't they took a deeper look at the case, just say suicide case closed....Pisses me off !

[@MarkDally]

Houdini is the only Melvins record I listen to, and I've bought several. Never even knew Kurt co-produced it. Melvins are great when they try but release a lot of random rubbish. I guess Buzzo owes a lot more to Kurt than he might think. Kurt obviously got them focused on writing great tunes rather than just writing as many records as possible.

[@Vvran36]

FandangleTechery Kurt never got them to writing great tunes. Melvins have been kicking it out since 1983. They haven't changed to appeal to anyone in any way. Of course they owe a lot, more dale cover because he gets royalties from incesticide. Who knows if Kurt would have been who he was if buzz didn't take him to his first punk show, been in fecal matter, opened shows for one another, influenced his own work and work ethic, got them hooked up with Dave grohl. It's a sad situation in the end

[@gregpasq]

Using that same logic, then every Nirvana song must be solid gold, right? Please. Nirvana had it's share of garbage songs. Different strokes.

[@thebetbetunderground9548]

Greg Pasquier those that made it in the albums were solid gold.

[@SpiralDream]

Yeah. Always thought most of their stuff is unlistenable but Houdini is awesome. I don't think it was a coincidence.

[@SpiralDream]

@Smell This I actually like Bullhead and Lysol now haha

[@rjbubba203]

I think it's a custom Travis Bean guitar

[@daBEAGLE1017]

This will tell you the truth kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpi9dJ6aZd6Ef7s

[@thevikingkhan]

What guitar is that?

[@HooverGaming91]

no king buzzo no nirvana simple as that

[@rickjohnson5497]

Bleach sold 30k records before Nirvana went big. So if it's because he had the wounded junkie look, why did Bleach sell more than any of your records before Houdini? Love the Melvins, but that's a bs statement. Also, Smells like teens spirit was a song that kept getting requested and blew up. After that they tried selling an image for the rest of the bands

[@thatgameofthronesguy3311]

Totally agree! Teen spirit was requested so much the radio and mtv had to put it in heavy rotation. Kurt's look might've helped Nirvana become bigger but the music was the main reason

[@dreadred92]

Electrical Guitar company, his was specially made in the style of a Les Paul.

[@redcassette]

no its an electrical guitar company/EGC

[@BubblingSyphilisSund]

My focus always goes from the greatness that is Buzz to just how god damn beautiful that guitar is.

[@sstaners1234]

I actually get that Buzz is sick of answering the same question over and over and over again.

[@keithsa41]

what guitar is he playing?

[@mikeo1300]

Electrical Guitar Company. Custom made.

[@ignatprokhoropchyuck4652]

i wanna this hairdressing

[@FureonNectarmoon]

That's just him being realistic. Why make a million records if you know they won't sell?

[@SleepytimeZach]

Sounds to me like someone is a little bit jealous and thinks he's better than nirvana and Kurt and he acts like if he was good looking they would have done better ... Well no I think they still would have owned

[@utero5192]

with all due respect, you can perceive a slight feeling of jealousy towards Kurt's musical success (his music changed everything), any artists has at least some load of ego and I'm 100% sure Buzz is no exception. Buzz is a great musician yet miles away behind Kurt's talent

[@JasonPizzolato]

MELVINS brought the heavy. NIRVANA brought the pop. Naturally, the bubble-gum is going to sell better to the masses. Pretty sure King Buzzo realizes this. lol @ "Miles away behind Kurt's talent.". :))) You don't even believe that, really. At least you say Buzz is a great musician, though. Credit where credit is due for recognizing. Cheers.

[@daydreamer92ify]

I always feel a sense of bitterness when he talks about Kurt, and I don't really understand it. Like they were supposedly friends and he fucking helped produce their record and yet he still talks down about him being a junkie? I just don't remember ever seeing Kurt say anywhere that Buzz was this fat mountain guy, so why would he call Kurt a skinny junkie? I love Melvins and all of their music, but I've seen too many instances of Buzz talking badly about Kurt, and it just isn't fair or acceptable to trash talk someone who is dead, especially someone who supported you and your band so openly. I seriously doubt Melvins would have been as successful in the nineties if people like Kurt hadn't always listed them as influences. There's just something really disgusting about disrespecting the dead, especially the ones who cared about you.

[@ThePsycm]

I don't think he's bitter at Kurt Cobain. He's just saying that he sold and marketed that image of the good looking druggies that play heavy music and he's bitter/pissed at the people who loved him for that more than his music. Like how these soccer mom and pretentious poser-yuppies listening to his shit only after he became famous and they would not even bat an eyes for him if he was just a regular guys playing underground music.. Than maybe he would still be alive today, but maybe not has much famous. I hate also the hypocrisy of all those poser and fake people. That just pretend so they can fit in. Or those asshole journalist that pretend they know more about your own music than you do.

[@oneeyedjack1115]

ThePsycm he may have a very good point there, but still it feels like there's a slight hint of envy beyond it. kurt didn't do drugs or made music or had the posture he had so that he could be famous and marketable, things just turned out to be that way, and nirvana's music isn't that cheap people (including buzz) tend to present it nowadays. I mean, the fact some fake losers declared themselves as nirvana fans doesn't affect the essence of nirvana

[@daydreamer92ify]

I agree with both of you really. I can see why Buzz felt that Kurt and Nirvana sold out, but if Nirvana sold out so did Sonic Youth, they were on the SAME MAJOR LABEL and Sonic Youth has never gotten shit on for selling out. I think it's clear that Kurt never meant to get so famous so fast. Clearly he didn't enjoy it, there are so many interviews with people who were around him that say he resented it, and he even wrote about it in his suicide note. He felt like he was punching in a time clock when he walked on stage by that point, he was just really burnt out and the band even put out a really extreme album with In Utero and it only made them more famous. Maybe Buzz is resentful to the series of events that led Kurt to be so bad off and a drug abuser, who knows. I'm glad other people have insight into the story though.

[@oneeyedjack1115]

daydreamer92ify agreed A-Z because I was a Melvins fan even before Nirvana went big (and neither than felt totally comfortable with buzzo's cocky attitude) and Melvins arguably paved the road for what's gonna happen with Nirvana and the rest of the Seattle scene, but I wonder what if Buzz had that withered skinny popular look Kurt had, what if he was in kurt's shoes at the time, of course playing Melvins' stuff, where Melvins would have been, would they be able to change the course of music (no matter if that being regarded in a positive or negative way), would anyone give a shit about them more than they do now?

[@daydreamer92ify]

Vojislavka Zivkovic I really don't think so. Part of the reason Nirvana was so profoundly amazing and popular was the way kurt wrote and the way he sang, he had a great rock scream that was uniquely his, buzz doesn't have that type of emotional and inflection in his throat, you know? Drone is never going to reach as many people as Nirvana's albums did, there is something less human and desperate about it.