Metallica HATER listens to Ride The Lightning (FIRST TIME Reaction)

[@Ozz77765]

All those bands that you love worship Metallica.

[@SuperSaiyanEagle]

On god 😂

[@beirch]

One thing you have to keep in mind while listening to RTL is the fact they were 19 and 20 years old (!) while recording it. Tracks like Fade To Black and The Call of Ktulu are incredibly well crafted, especially for someone so young. And if you compare it to their thrash peers of the time (Slayer, Anthrax, Exodus), they were just *miles* ahead and it's easy to see how Metallica became so legendary.

[@LorenzoFrausto]

Bro at this point in time heavier didn’t exist. This was heavier being created haha

[@tostrmofo6686]

I also have fealing that heavier nowadays seems to be "let's just see how low we can tune without making our instruments unplayable"

[@beirch]

@@tostrmofo6686 Which is basically what this dude's own music is. I can see why he doesn't like the melodic stuff Metallica does because he only makes deathcore himself. Nothing wrong with that, but Metallica usually won't appeal to people who like death metal, core, djent etc. It will appeal to people who occasionally listen to classical music and are primarily drawn to emotional music.

[@domenicgalata1470]

Slayer has entered the chat.

[@MotorbreathChannel]

84? Okay, let us assume that they were writing it during the time after writing their debut so probably 83. Venom with their "Don't Burn the Witch" from 1982 "Black Metal". Hellhammer "Chainsaw" or "Decapitator" or "Blood Insanity" or - quite frankly - anything from their 1983 "Death Fiend' and "Triumph of Death" demos. To this day nothing slaps as hard as those demos remastered for 2008 "Demon Entrails" compilation. Bathory with "Hades", "Necromancy" & "Armageddon" from their 1984 debut "Bathory" This being said. I think that Metallica is one of the greatest band of all time. Probably THE greatest. But their power is not in being the heaviest - it is by being one of the heaviest and having awesome melodies, writing and being able to present the heavines to the masses and make it mainstream in less than a decade. Yes, those bands above are legendary and crucial, being responsible for creating Black Metal and extreme Metal as a whole. But no one can deny, that their works of the days are - although argueably heavier - at the same time also more simplistic, sometimes intentionally primitive. Metallica on the other hand had the versatility to not stay one note one style and were able to modernize and adjust their sound through the years while still undeniably being Metallica.

[@MotorbreathChannel]

And Slayer of course. But this was a bit too obvious.

[@xerodelacroix5552]

"Did the bassist make a mistake?" Bro.

[@mahamu-v4q]

Lol

[@danielwilson9724]

I know.. that's the moment I knew FOR SURE I'd punch dude in his dumb ass " its interesting" "didn't they start thrash, Idk..idk" face!! Lol

[@HypeWrecks]

It’s easy to forget that it’s mainstream now, but it wouldn’t have been mainstream until the mid-to-late 80’s and especially the early 90’s because they made it mainstream. When this came out, they were still very much underground, and this and the previous album would have sounded nothing like anything else at the time. It’s easy to look back on it and critique it with the hindsight of almost 40 years of influence that this and their subsequent albums would have had on the bands and albums that came after this. It truly was groundbreaking for the time.

[@shawkorror]

Late 90's was the commercialisation of the alternative after the last gasps of '94 faded, at least in the U.K. "Ride" was pretty raw but honest in its production.

[@MatthewC137]

Every generation has to keep your point in mind. Us Metallica fans of the 1980s often failed to understand what The Beatles did and even The Beatles' fans often failed to grasp the huge influence that Buddy Holly had on groups like The Beatles and of course, The Hollies (named for Buddy Holly!). Metallica (mostly James) AND Dave Mustaine changed the metal landscape in a massive way and their peers are usually also their fans because of that fact.

[@Pinolero1981]

Reasons to hate metallica: their name (slip knot?), the dudes voice (manson?), don't want ro be guy with long hair and beard (dime bag?), Napster (that was like 25 years ago), mainstream (but korn and slip knot are not? Plus, metallica became more mainstream after the black album not before)

[@lightningmonky7674]

Fr you don't have to make up contradictory criticisms to dislike certain art. For me it's jazz, I recognize they're all technically proficient and gifted musicians, and they put a lot of time into their craft, but jazz has just never sounded pleasant to my ears on a basic music level.

[@tracymangrum6349]

His opinion of Metallica is “main stream metal” lol. They didn’t go mainstream till the black album. At this time in 1984 they were underground

[@reebud]

I'm totally the opposite of you... I really like that these guys don't just being loud for the sake of being loud, just being heavy for the sake of being heavy. ...they have all the versatility to use all 'tools' such as melodious, lyrics, what you called 'classical guitar sounds', good song structures, whatever to convey the message and to create the intended mood to support the message... and the ability to know the 'appropriateness' of using certain technique for certain song that emphasize the message of the particular song.. I don't know whether I explain myself clearly or not. I myself not a metalhead -meaning being that one person that appreciate only heavy and fast music and consider anything below it as lame and boring music. Metallica is one of a few bunch of metal bands that I believe earn the respect of those who really appreciate great music as great music, beyond any limited scope and view of only one of particular genre of music. that's my two cents.

[@PatoChu]

This guy must be the first guy ever in history to dislike Fade to Black

[@tokemjuju8250]

LMFAO i literally said the exact same thing

[@swann331]

1984. Nothing like this existed then. They single handedly invented a genre. Not to mention they were 21 year old kids!

[@TeamWolfySoupy]

Says Lars sucks, isn't feeling creeping death riff, drums come in and starts dancing. Alright, man.

[@masterofpuppets232]

The bass is how the song for whom the bell tolls starts after the bells. Cliff burton was insane with making his bass sound unique.

[@kevinwest843]

You don’t like the drums because you’ve been told not to like it.

[@ladaddy19]

The opening for to For Whom The Bell Tolls is bass not guitar. He was just so good that you didn't recognize it as bass. And the slide in wasn't a mistake at all. Just an answer to your question.

[@danielwilson9724]

He was so good but he also had a pedal hooked up to play tht main bass riff in for whom the bell tolls

[@ididthisonpulpous6526]

I don't know what you mean by "mainstream metal" I would like to mention that Metallica was not on the radio until the 90s really. My experience of finding Metallica in the 80s was through literal word of mouth from friends. They were popular in the metal scene, but until the Black Album were not well known. Thrash metal was not popular or played much on radio or TV, which is to say that only major way to find new music back in pre-internet times. It was a genre that you had to go find.

[@docsponderings1515]

I would hate to be so educated in music that I couldn’t actually enjoy a song anymore. You just sat there and talked through some of the best solos ever created, and compared them to things that came way after them as if your comments were even pertinent

[@davidbarrow7497]

It wasn't mainstream back then. It was underground.

[@calumpotter5302]

Bro clearly doesn’t know anything about music. He thinks he knows it all, but he’s actually useless.

[@R005TERILLUSION]

"I'm not sure if the lyrics are cool or lame" Dude you like Nu-Metal!!! 😂😂

[@angusgow1887]

Lars may not be a great technical drummer , but the work he put in making Metallica a successful band

[@fastertove]

Second most important member. I know that some people hate that fact

[@jochencooper2751]

@user-bm1rh1yk6t without James they would just be a good band, with him they are the GOAT

[@4md17]

​@@fastertovei know manny good guitarist but they didnt have lars in band so no one knows about them. i think lars is the most important member and not because of his drumming. maybe nobody would ever know about james or cliff or metallica if there wasnt lars input. again, im not talking about drumming skils

[@jarvysharvy8031]

Love how you gave them a chance! The way you analyzed the songs and weren't afraid to say some were kinda bad is how reactions should be. Also loved how you pointed out it may take you awhile to grow into some of the songs like Escape and Trapped Under Ice. It took me awhile to grow into those songs, too. Awesome video!

[@dmwalker24]

To be clear, nothing against you. Gave you a thumbs up. It's actually interesting for me to hear these 'unusual' perspectives. But just to reiterate once again... Fade to Black is one of the greatest songs they ever wrote. Calling it 'classical guitar' is a misunderstanding of what classical is. And I think this is the first time I've ever heard (in over 40 years) someone refer to 'pretty' and 'melodic' music in a negative way.

[@BatFan1]

The best i can describe this dude listening to Metallica for the first is like someone whose only listened to modern rock guitar players who watch EVH for the first time and are like " yea that guy is alright" 😂 Props for keeping an open mind, but seriously, in the kindest way, you need to "unfuck" your mind. "Did they have effects back then?" LOL like whut? Its not like they played in the 1880s my guy.

[@jaybird455]

Bro, I’m 4 songs in and listening to Fade to Black. If that song doesn’t do something to you, maybe we are just in different mind spaces. I think Fade to Black is one of the best created pieces ever. It’s Metallica when they were raw, but it’s actually a polished version of them, although extremely early. Immediately, my fav Metallica song of all time. Plus the meaning behind the song is super deep. Not a lot of metal bands (mostly none) had deep lyrics at this time.

[@tritotrofo]

What happened so?

[@NoahParker98]

Gotta remember bro a lot of guys that ONLY like death metal & stuff like that ( which i love too ) typically only want heavy non stop and if it’s anything else it’s usually pushed to the side regardless of the meaning or feel . And that’s okay we all love music for different reasons . Seems like a cool dude with just a very different look on metallica . Who have always been ahead of their time . I think this dude will love Justice

[@MotorbreathChannel]

@@NoahParker98 this is basically what I wantet to write here, but also a more polite version of it at the same time =)

[@NoahParker98]

@@MotorbreathChannel didn’t realize I was being impolite my friend haha .

[@MotorbreathChannel]

@@NoahParker98 nah I was saying that I would have been impolite compared to your commen. You are fine.

[@toepics363]

metal fans that play guitar are very different from metal fans that don’t, guitar players have such an appreciation for intricate arpeggios and tempo changes throughout songs which is what metallica inducted into the genre before anyone else their talent remains unmatched to this day there hasn’t been a game changer since

[@ZRLJalle]

bro pauses right before every sick transition

[@pandabearguy1]

Some of their main inspirations were bands like Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, Ramones, Motorhead, Venom, Mercyful Fate, Diamond Head. Chances are Metallica is your favorite bands favorite band.

[@xWarPlays]

you're trying too hard to dislike this music.

[@cheechunlimited]

he's the "hater guy" I guess

[@Nokolol56]

@@cheechunlimitedhey now, hes being respectful to the community

[@cheechunlimited]

@@Nokolol56 he is, I was just saying being the "hater guy" is his whole internet personality

[@renatus6883]

metallica were not mainStream in 84 they were young kidS touring on a little buS

[@user-mn6ur2xs8y]

Dude, this album came out in 1984.. Metal was not mainstream then and they were still an underground sort of phenomenon. It was not until 1989 until they hit the mainstream. They are brilliant and talented. Some of the very best!!

[@MagnusTF]

Bro hates everything

[@Jackfleet091]

Lmao

[@conradbarnard5807]

This was like watching a baby walk on grass for the first time

[@krazzko]

Fade to black is absolutely amazing song...one of Metallica masterpiece, brings so emotions and power.

[@somegreatdj]

I am torn. Part of me is so very excited that you are taking the dive, as critical as you may be. I am mostly excited to learn your feedback, but something got cut out from your experience. I was hoping to hear the outros to each song, but I guess you have your app programmed to crossfade into continuous playback. Go back sometime without the crossfade, my favorite outro is at the end of the first track. Not hearing it was quite jarring, and I wonder if your appreciation for the track may have increased having heard it. The sound is of the aftermath of the explosion, basically a sonic representation of scorched earth. You can really hear a loud, low-end crackling. I like the texture of it, so don't miss it. Cheers, cool reation.

[@trickshotsmoviesandcubing2317]

With Fade to Black, you gotta realize that just because a song is metal or from a metal band doesn't mean the point is to be heavy, the point can be the beauty and emotion, with the metal aspects just adding a little edge to it.

[@randycomerford2038]

If you want to hear them playing a 1000 miles an hour, than listen to their first album "Kill 'em All"!!!!

[@skinnybuddha74]

You can tell that all of the people writing hate comments got triggered by the title and didn't even watch the video. If they did, they would have seen that throughout the album you absolutely recognized Metallica's influence on literally everyone, and by the end you gave them mad respect. You're even willing to listen to more. So what's the problem, people? He didn't hate it! Listen to Master of Puppets next. It's not only their best album, but also considered by many to be THE greatest metal album of all time.

[@4md17]

the problem is, he says manny times "this sounds like pantera, gwar..." no, they sound like metallica! and to say that kirks solos on RTL are stupid licks? i dont even want to coment on that.. he doesnt know that his favorite bands, nu metal bands, are influenced by metallica. and he is compering early 80s production and 2000 production. and his coments on lars are stupid. good job lars 😂? who dfuk is he?

[@andrewharper831]

Dude shittin' on Fade to Black... lmao.

[@nickkleiber8636]

Dudes a joke!!!! He listens to Korn and Slipknot haha 😂 prolly thinks Disturbed is killer lol

[@sepulmattica7649]

Metallica was definitely not mainstream in 84 when they made this. I would say after “Justice” during 89 when “One premiered, they started to break out of the underground.

[@serkantekdemir9946]

We, Metallica fans, are doing just fine without you. Don’t push yourself too much to become one, dude.

[@Migh_in_Space]

No disrespect but clearly he doesn't know this is the best Metallica album and one the greatest metal-albums of all time.

[@dudutano15]

This dude will love St. Anger...

[@michaeljaystaufferjoyce7235]

You must be a lot younger than I, I'm 47 and when this album came out, they were the BEST of the BEST., you are thinking of the 97-05 Era metallica. Lars is what you would call a Guitarist drummer. He doesnt stay in beat 100% he plays to go along with the guitars. He is a master at hitting off beat stuff to throw you off, his time changes are sick. He's not the best drummer in the world, but only Lars can play drums for Metallica. The albums are great, well most, but Metallica live, not many bands and give this kind of energy live for 2+ hr's, even in their 60's now 2+hr's..

[@gesitiwadengaming9873]

22:00 yes, that early entry is intentional, and yes, this is Cliff Burton on bass. He was killed in a bus crash in September of '86

[@williamlastname]

Some of these mfs hating in the comments didn't even watch the video and just think that he hated every song

[@MarkusSsZ]

Agreed lol some of the comments are incredibly rude. He wasn't even very harsh at all, he was actually quite positive. A lot of butthurt fanboys I guess.

[@Jackfleet091]

He did shit on every song tho

[@Nissardpertugiu]

About the first metal gallop triplet, Its Deep Purple " Hard Lovin Man " from the In Rock album (1970).

[@rodrigobilro4418]

That fight with fire riff give me chills

[@riphopfer5816]

Cliff didn’t make a mistake in “For Whom the Bell Tolls”. Everyone in the band loved Cliff, and they loved his bass playing, and they more or less would take any opportunity - like that one - to give him a chance to stand out. So… Not only was it not a mistake, it was a feature. Cliff didn’t make mistakes when recording.

[@parkerdavis9152]

Facts

[@motorheadbanger405]

I am the dude with the long hair, the beard, the METALLICA t-shirt and the tight jeans. AND I AM PROUD OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😈😈🤘🤘🤘🤘😈😈

[@dmwalker24]

"More complex than I was expecting" ... If this statement says anything, it's unfamiliarity with what huge portions of metal are as a musical style. Some of the riffs on this album are so savage, I'm still routinely stunned by them almost 40 years later. And even as good as this album is... The two albums to either side of it (Mater of Puppets, And Justice for All) are even better. Not like a little bit better. Like defining a genre for over a generation, better. I'm more of a classical music geek at heart, so for me And Justice for All is basically the Magnum Opus of Metal Music.

[@LexicalAlex]

For whom the Bell Tolls, the intro, is actually the bass sounding like that.

[@CoboProdz]

How do u like metal bands but haven’t heard the most popular song by the most popular metal band? Idk how anyone over 30 could have avoided hearing for who the bell tolls

[@henrymcginnis6768]

Released in 85. What sounds old and maybe predictable now was original at that time. And as another comment said they were barely 20 yrs. old.

[@ovaismalikvo]

Man, imagine listening to this album for the first time again. These guys were my biggest reason for picking up drumsticks 25 years ago.🤘🏽😎🤘🏽

[@IIIYungIII]

Bro I’m with you on that. They are the reason why I picked up drumsticks and was so eager to learn play a Metallica song 🤘

[@CEZook]

This is probably the first hour long YT vid I've watched. Not going to lie I stuck with it out of spite. There are so many things I could be negative about but because of how you start and finish, I'll keep it positive. After Ride the Lightning where you talk about how it parallels with punk and you end it with "I don't know what I'm talking about" ...actually you're spot on. They do have punk influence and their first two albums very much live in the same space with the garage sound and eff you attitude. I've always felt the same way when I go back and listen to those albums. It's metal that also has that raw punk heart to it. Great call on the Trapped Under Ice riff that gives off some KMFDM vibes. Never would have connected it but I can certainly see where you get that. The more hear it the more I need to see what else overlaps in their music. Solid comment on music sometimes taking time to resonate with you. Some of my favorites now took playing an album over and over to make me realize they were the true gems. And in the same breath you saying "Creeping Death, this has to be heavy...Metallica please be heavy!" Here I am just waiting with a smile on my face knowing one of their most banger riffs is coming. Overall man glad you enjoyed it. You seem like you would enjoy anything 80s from Metallica, maybe some selections of Garage Inc. Also adorable Pom, really lightened me up at the end. Raised two and they are fantastic dogs.

[@MojoDudeX]

1 Yes, Lars is substandart 2 all your references were later than this album 3 They are musicians, so the music must roll with the lyrics (Listen to the lyrics!) 4 Master of Puppets is next!

[@neil3467]

This is like someone evaluating Elvis through the lense of Black Sabbath. Can't compare the foundations with the future like that.

[@chaddubois8164]

Ya, he doesn't comprehend the timeline yet.

[@Zacsondy]

If a note was wrong and Cliff played it, it became right.

[@marianoperez8079]

Bro... The amount of talent that this guys had in that era is something I can't understand now in my forties. It's amazing! And it still giving me the same emotions that I had the first time I listened to them... All the harmonies are played by them on all tracks. You gotta have in mind that this was and still is an inspiration for all metal bands. For Metallica the new wave of british heavy metal was the shit... And they were inspired by it and make it faster. Great video, man!

[@danij5055]

"Pop and mainstream" Metallica with the really high production values? You're thinking of the Black Album.

[@drizel462]

The reason there are no gaps is because whoever uploaded this removed the space between tracks. Also, Metallica didn't really reach mass appeal until their self-titled 5th album "the black album". That was the start of Hetfield's transition to trying to sing more.

[@routh8453]

So u hate metallica but you've never heard ride the lightning 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣 🤡

[@danij5055]

The relatively simplistic drumming gives room for the complexities of the guitars, as well as the power of the riffs.

[@rinzler4841]

sad...your mind is corrupted by the modern sound so much that u think fuckin ride the lightning of all things is goofy...

[@danielwilson9724]

But talks about loving Korn and other Nu Metal 😂

[@rinzler4841]

@@danielwilson9724 fr

[@rinzler4841]

damn this is the most likes ive ever gotten on a comment wtf?

[@duke___nuke2395]

You have to remember, what you say sounds basic, was cutting edge in the early 80s. They paved the way. Everything sounds basic when it’s 40 years old compared to today.

[@stephenbricker9785]

I can't make it through your videos with the elementary cringe reactions. I would absolutely love to hear what this man's favorite songs are.

[@MetalliDanR]

As a massive Metallica fan, I enjoyed your reactions to this. I could see you getting in to several bits of the album and some other stuff wasn't to your taste. But you hit the nail on the head, this album along with Metallica's other early work was absolutely groundbreaking and they have influenced countless other bands and musicians. For me, its one of those albums that just gets better the more you listen to it, but unquestionably it sounds dated compared to modern music. But, thats part of the charm for me. Old Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer just capture a magic movement and I love the raw sound on their early stuff. Hopefully in time you'll grow to love some of Metallica's stuff.

[@tralph40]

Read the comments first and couldn’t watch the vid. This album ranks top with any metal musician who came after.

[@bigemetalmilitia8462]

I think your expectations are way too high my friend. Relax. Stop looking for technicality that wasn't even in the forefront of any bands at that time. What Metallica brought was a new sound and an energy that was unheard of at that time. They infused so many inspirations to create and evolve their sound. Bro,,it was 1984 and they were on the ascent. Just enjoy what you're hearing🤘🤘

[@Nissardpertugiu]

That said, RTL was a huge leap from KEA in musical ideas and mastering their instruments

[@bigemetalmilitia8462]

Absolutely🤘🤘

[@matttyree1002]

Whatever you end up thinking about the album, I applaud the attitude you are approaching this with. Its good to put bias aside and give things a chance. Also glad you chose this particular album to try out, its certain my fav :)

[@hjdmatch]

Cringe reaction. Maybe some research into the early years of metal would help. Especially when you are trying to judge one of the most influential bands in metal history.

[@Zlgz1]

the drums arent even that bad honestly

[@MBx19v]

There's so much cool bass shit buried in the mix of this album, he's playing lead bass essentially

[@tomwales968]

"guitar sounds basic" literally 5 minutes after saying he couldn't play any of it

[@gianwinters]

whatever makes you happy… sad you’re missing a lot over the years, the good thing you’re becoming more open to these. Why would you hate the blue print of the bands you have been listening to? This is a seminal album. Seems like hating Metallica is just for a pose for views.

[@danielwilson9724]

There's bass? Dude that's Cliff fuckin Burton on bass from kill em all to master of puppets before his tragic death on master tour

[@MarkusSsZ]

It's crazy how many butthurt fanboys there are in the comments lol. You were pretty positive for the most part but people are still bashing you for some reason lol. I enjoyed the reaction.

[@GamerNXR]

He is entitled to his criticism but at the same time everyone is entitled to their criticism of his review.

[@SeenGod]

before i even watch this, if you say anything bad about Creeping Death, i’m gonna disown you forever 😂😂🤘😎

[@skinnybuddha74]

He actually liked Creeping Death!

[@R005TERILLUSION]

If he says one negative thing about The Call of Ktulu I'm gonna spit.

[@SeenGod]

@@R005TERILLUSION 🤘😂

[@jimharris367]

I really wish people would feel music instead of analysing - music is not an intellectual exercise.

[@MotorbreathChannel]

Everyone is a critic. Everyone has been thought that their opinion is somehow important. It is also kind of funny to me when I see a reactor reading up on a track, getting notes for it, and then stopping every 10 seconds saying what exactly the band did here and there. If a song alone is not enough for you, then maybe music is not for you in general. Listen first, and then analyze. Otherwise it's just a formed opinion parroting 'what people think' from the previous read-up plus your trying to decide what you like and don't like, what to bash it for and for what it should be "dryly praised" because we are big experts here and emotions are unprofessional and we should always have pluses and minuses and something to say without actually saying anything to avoid copyrights yada-yada-yada.

[@pratikmandal1350]

I know it's a matter of taste, but I'm yet to see any reasonable person say James' voice was annoying.

[@MotorbreathChannel]

It's just memes, dude. James is annoying, Kirk is playing wah-wah pedal, Lars can't drum, bassists are... legendary? It was popular to dunk on Metallica because people are always happy to hate someone popular. Popularity by proxy. If you can notice an imperfection in them, it is supposed to make you better and more deserving. Kind of like the author of this video. When he was laughing at a drum fill and saying something to the effect of "haha Lars come on play that again" I thought to myself: "Lars wrote this drum fill before you were alive and decades before you've learned anything that you know about music". Well, at least he is listening to the band now, so he may be on the right track if it is not just for show.

[@riphopfer5816]

This was not mainstream in 1984. Metallica didn’t get much recognition outside of the metal scene until *…And Justice For All*., and they got no play on mainstream radio until the ‘Black Album’. Also, you nailed what makes thrash metal different from anything that came before: the influence of punk rock. Before there was ‘thrash metal’, there was ‘thrash’-a subgenre of punk. Metallica combined the DIY ethos, street cred/authenticity, confrontational attitude, and, of course, guitar tone of thrash punk with the technical proficiency of bands from the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal (just look it up; if you want to know what influenced Metallica’s sound, research this. Or, just listen to the songs they’ve covered; that’s more fun.)

[@carolinecoy3164]

Exactly. They where far too heavy for any normies chart music. I mean I like that too. But I'm a metal head at heart. Kill em all and justice for all were my faves by Metallica. Faith no more, iron maiden, sisters of mercy. So many bands that changed the metal scene. People say linkin park and limp biscuit started all the rap rock. But faith no more were 1st and they were amazing

[@Punpas]

we all have our own preferences, and i respect yours! nice video, keep it up!

[@pharaozcurse1]

I think they wrote this album between the ages of 19-21. They might be onto something

[@arthead2001]

dude, first 4 albums of Metallica are golden this one is number 2 out of them. This is absolute classic this is what we love them for. Then they decided to go masses to go pop and that is whole 90s and since 00s they trying to reverse that with more or less success. And these first 4 albums have SO much influence on anything else after them that just MUST know them for simple educational purposes. And this album bit raw but they were very young, and say 7 string guitars would make that heavy riff in Escape sound completely different, there was no 7 string guitars back then:) they were opening the whole genre for everyone else, Slayer came with first album same year as this on 1984, and back then there were no soundegeneers understanding what they doing related to this style of music just listen to Show no Mercy album, echo just killing it entirely. So this album sounds actually pretty good in that regard:) ..

[@FyreofShadow]

I can say that Master of Puppets (The album directly after this one) is much much more polished and is maybe even more of an iconic album to the thrash scene from this one. It's really where they hit their stride with their style, and it's the last album with Cliff Burton (Their original bassist) on it. I'd give that one a listen as well.

[@Rantz199X]

brother, you know it's coming!

[@_Professor_Oak]

@@Rantz199X also their very first album that came out the year before this one is worth a listen too to get an idea of their starting point 👌

[@SailorJohnPresents]

I’d like to see you listen to Mater of Puppets. I think you may end up actually becoming a fan. Then you will start to understand the hype. 🎸

[@jonathanlebron7224]

​@@SailorJohnPresentsidk man... i have ride the lightning very high up.

[@fredrickm4436]

Metallica is the total opposite of suck.

[@fabiolignelli7372]

Ride the Lightning (the album): there's no point trying to "invent" pseudo defects. Masterpiece. Fact. Another detail: you can't have a Dave Lombardo (Slayer) in every thrash metal band. Idiosyncratically weak arguments, it's a shame...It can destroy Metallica albums like Load, Reload, St. Anger, but Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, Kill 'Em All: that's embarrassing, being a laughing stock...OK, you have your sacred right to opinion, to differ, to criticize, but it is mandatory to have plausibility in criticism. Otherwise it's pathetic...

[@kylec1411]

no, to answer your question. Metallica does not suck. They are somewhat dated unfortunately. But still Very good in their own right. They inspired most the metal out there these days. They have also helped so many people and you cant ever take that away from them. Legends.

[@allahbless2278]

Your fav bands were definitely inspired by Metallica. Being a gatekeeper is cringe , imagine being that old and finally realizing that

[@Nissardpertugiu]

If we talk about extreme metal the band before is Venom, which influenced HUGELY slayer too. Exciter was there too. Of course bands like Motörhead, Judas Priest, Accept, Diamond Head, Saxon etc...had proto thrash songs .

[@A-LYCAN-CALLED-CAS]

Not everyone is intelligent enough to appreciate Metallica or actual music

[@phins6004]

If you want all out Metallica... watch their live video "Seattle '89" from the Binge and Purge box set. It will make you think twice about them! It is bad ass!!

[@Keizer_Soze]

Drums, you're looking for the "...And Justice For All" record. Heavy, you're looking for the "Master of Puppets" record -in particular "The Thing That Should Not Be". Also, remember, all your favorite bands most probably grew up with / was influenced by Metallica. This record predates Nu metal by almost a decade. There was virtually nothing that sounded like this back in the early 80's. And this was way before (the) Metallica (that you know) sold out. They sold their records with no radio play, only through word of mouth, copied tapes and live shows. I still have a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy (ad infinitum) of a tape that was originally copied by the band and given out from one of their shows. You had to be there to understand the importance of how this band happened and how it came up from the underground scene.

[@raportmercado1165]

I just grew up with Metallica, you're going to hell when you die.

[@driller7714]

The die by my hand riff of creeping death. Check out the USC fight song. Almost identical riff.

[@MaaZeus]

Metallica was anything but a mainstream band at this point. They were young, angry teens playing in the same stale beer and tobacco smelling venues as Slayer and other early Thrash metal bands. It wasn't until their 5th self-titled album that they adopted the more radio friendly sound and their popularity outside of metal circles truly exploded. But that change in style and genre also alienated a lot of metalheads who were saddened to see their favourite band becoming watered down and mainstream rock band. You are not wrong about the Punk influence. Thrash metal was basically born when they mixed Hardcore punk to Motörhead and turned intensity and speed to 11.

[@Vampagan]

Speaking of annoying voices, your opinion on music is no longer relevant.

[@BreakthroughGD]

imagine complaining about METALLICA being stereotypical - i.e. the band that pioneered thrash metal, speed metal and even progressive metal. it's like saying the stooges are generic punk..you could only make such a statement if you were completely ignorant of the history

[@zenoslime]

very weird that the tracks overlap like this. not something from the original album.

[@AmazingJuniorBros]

I love how bros first thought process on the title track is how lars is bad at drumming 💀

[@insertnamehere4419]

His drumming is fine on this. Aint no one ever said otherwise. It's his live performances that suck. He can't keep tempo to save his life, and randomly speeds up. Listen to them do Orion live lately. He butchers it.