Toxic Metal Fanbase Tier List (Metallica, Tool & More)

[@MetalTrenches]

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[@GinoBtheman]

I’m a year late but ghost fans have become damn near intolerable

[@ToxicChaos115]

As a knot fan, can confirm we are on average a pure pain

[@MetalTrenches]

lmao self report. Love it

[@crazydud3380]

Fanbases being named by bands is brilliant for creating brand loyalty, but unfortunately some people take it too far and wrap their entire identity around it.

[@thecraigfish8316]

and im proud

[@AW6sic6]

Me too! I love the band and I think Corey Taylor’s cool and mostly politically correct but I don’t worship them or have no identity other than Slipknot or gatekeep and be an asshole, there’s a balance.

[@Neucod55]

Agreed. Mostly because a lot of them seem to be just angry teens.

[@JaxDaHax1]

I remember being murdered for saying I preferred Arch Enemy over Jinjer when someone compared them.

[@MetalTrenches]

Imagine being mad about that

[@yanysguerrero]

A pretty weird comparison!

[@illegalkiwi2193]

@@yanysguerrero both female vocalists, and everyone loves to talk about bands with a female

[@nikkoREEE]

@@illegalkiwi2193 Well that would be like comparing iron maiden and slipknot, both good bands but completly different. i dont care what people like tho, i can fully understnad why someone would prefer arch enemy even tho jinjer is my fav of those. I agree with yanys its a weird comparison

[@illegalkiwi2193]

@@nikkoREEE oh yeah, musically they are very different. I'm just saying that's probably why that guy and his friend were comparing them.

[@MadMike1]

Good thing we didn't include anything outside of metal. Beyonce or K-Pop fans would've had me ranting for days. Thanks for having me on again!

[@MetalTrenches]

Anytime!

[@wmscott1975]

Nightwish fans are off the charts,there should be a special category for that lot 😆

[@nu-metalfan2654]

@@wmscott1975 really Nightwish?, I know the drama with Tarja wasn’t well received, but one of the last bands I would expect to have toxic fans.

[@evilemuempire9550]

@@nu-metalfan2654 I think it’s mostly if you don’t like the music, a lot of people worship the ground Floor walks on, which is good if you have a positive review, but god help you if you have some criticism, or if you prefer Annette

[@davidtsang5424]

And Taylor Swift fans also!

[@SonjaTheDork]

As a long time Dream Theater fan, I will happily confirm that we have a terrible fanbase. Fantastic music, but people take it way too far

[@SIRJ1895]

Seeing as how a crazed pantera fan literally killed dimebag, I’d say they’re fairly toxic.

[@sulferic666]

The dude was a schizophrenic, not toxic.

[@SIRJ1895]

@@sulferic666 from what’s been said the dude was pissed that pantera broke up and he blamed the Abbott brothers for their death. While the dude may have been schizophrenic, the fan base is still toxic.

[@sulferic666]

@@SIRJ1895 but then again when Pantera was still together he literally thought he wrote every Pantera lyric and riff known and that they were stealing his material and going to come to his house to kidnap him

[@drphilsranch6782]

You’re using someone who had serious mental issues to represent an entire fan base. That makes no sense.

[@sheenage7578]

I'd say that rubs off well on the fanbase considering how awful Pantera are lmao

[@Immariolopez]

I knew slipknot would be on here. If you mention to any of their fans that slipknot isn’t that heavy they go into a meltdown lol

[@MetalTrenches]

lol

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

It's so dumb Why do edgelords act like heaviness is the only metric by which music can be good?

[@superstarthomas]

@@Sergio-nb4hj Because their edgelords. lol

[@endofmediocritysecondaccou8524]

I couldn't agree more as a Slipknot fan

[@Immariolopez]

@@endofmediocritysecondaccou8524 yep not saying by any means that slipknot is bad. Definitely a great metal band

[@Fluffykeith]

I get that some Maiden fans have been reacting badly in the discussions about the newer albums (but this is the Internet where nuance is dead) but honestly Maiden fans at gigs have been the nicest, kindest and most generous I’ve encountered.

[@TheBoomBoxGuru]

What really annoys me about Slipknot fans is how they deify Corey Taylor, it's cringey

[@MetalTrenches]

It really is

[@crazydud3380]

Corey Taylor is an outstanding vocalist . . . but dude needs to learn when to stay out of things that are none of his business! LOL

[@brians1793]

I thought it was a meme and not done unironically.

[@theopinson3851]

Lol never heard that about Jinjer fans. They’ve been mostly chill in my experience. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Great band. Edit: OH. Yeah, I totally agree. I joined one of the FB groups and it’s literally just all simp pics of Tatiana.

[@jaydenspencemusic]

Rule of thumb: if a fan base has a name (eg Maggots, Beliebers, Directioners) there’s definitely some toxicity Also yes I did just talk about Bieber in the same sentence as Slipknot, deal with it

[@mandiblekesselrun7049]

One of the weirder things I've encountered with Pantera fans, is the odd subset that prefer their glam metal era, and think that Cowboys from Hell is when they sold out.

[@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063]

That is interesting. I like old and new.. im less into later

[@entr3_nou5]

Reminds me of that weird subset of GWAR fans that consider their thrash era their peak and not their experimental albums. The whole point of the band is to just do whatever the fuck they wanted and you’re telling me they like the era where they did the same kinda thing over and over again?

[@themetalmeltdownofficial]

Ohhhh 5FDP would DEFINITELY fall under 'fanatics', that fanbase is at best unreasonable and at worst genuinely crude and disgusting, at least in my experience.

[@MetalTrenches]

Definitely

[@wheelsofmercury]

RED STATE BUTT-METAL, AMIRITE???!!!! HAHA

[@faiththeunknownbeing8126]

This... This here

[@JohnDoe-tj4ml]

FFDP is my favorite band. A lot of the people you see on the internet being rude about FFDP are the same people who will sit there and defend Ivan for hours on end. I love Ivan, but what he did was wrong, and you can’t change that. The other side of the fan base are the ones who don’t use the internet. In real Life, and at every concert, the fans have all been so nice to me, and to each other. It’s just the assholes of us on the internet give us a bad rap. But yes, the fan base has a lot of nasty people.

[@GoofballGorgon]

As a fan of both anime and J-Rock/Metal, I understand that you described Babymetal's fanbase how you did because I don't know if they've toured over here yet and anime tends to be our first exposure to Japanese music in the US. But, some of the classic anime music artists, whose famous show(s) are parenthetical, are L'Arc~en~Ciel (Fullmetal Alchemist), Masuda Toshiro (Naruto), and Do As Infinity (Inu Yasha).

[@AndrewBrown-fq6vp]

Most metal "fans" on the internet are actually 12 year olds who have one album they stole off their older brother and if they actually saw one live they would probably turn to dust!

[@exeortegarubio]

11:17 I'm a Black Sabbath fan and still cannot understand the amount of fans who bash the Dio years.

[@UnchainedEruption]

People bash the Dio years? Literally who? I have never heard of this.

[@Niko..]

Ian Gillan years

[@georgeetboom7719]

The dio years are simply that, Black sabbaths Dio, like Rainbows Dio, or just Dio. Never felt like a band, more he found musicians to play his music

[@allenmadsen8147]

I can see why slayer got the rating it did. There were a lot of methed out ticking time bomb types at the slayer show I attended that put me on edge. Great show, good people all around but there were more than a few folks who were looking for a confrontation.

[@MetalTrenches]

Yeah a few bad apples spoil the bunch as they say

[@RPGManoWar]

NO JOKE the same thing happened to me. A friend and I went to a Slayer show in 2017 and a dude (clearly high AF) started like professing his love to her and putting a knife ring on the ground. We left about halfway through cause I had a really bad fucking migraine. I did get to hear Disciple live, though, so that was good ^w^

[@Mostvile]

Funny thing is I saw Slayer at the Tattoo the Earth Tour and it was a giant mud pit in Lawrence Kansas because someone broke a water line and Slayer and their ancient fans cried about the mud the entire time. Most of them just like to look tough but are huge fucking pussies. And Kerry King has been cosplaying as a southern rebel for 30+ years but grew up in California. Biggest fucking poser ever

[@magicsteve5523]

I feel like Burzum fans and Mathcore neckbeards are polar opposites when it comes to the politics in their communities and both are just as toxic in that regard.

[@MetalTrenches]

100%

[@sergimila1206]

I've had a great time with this. I don't know,.. I still missed judging Meshuggah fans (myself included), Gojira, old stuff like Guns'n Roses, AC / DC. If I can share my experience, the worst fanatics in music that I have encountered in my life were the Pixies fans, when I criticized their return exclusively for the money I had really some very unpleasant discussions with good friends and other not so friends.

[@MetalTrenches]

Oh shit The Pixies. Smashing Pumpkins too

[@ivankrylov6270]

@@MetalTrenches smashing pumpkins has fans?

[@nwebster2012]

After the other day you could definitely add Spiritbox on here. Especially on reddit they absolutely fawn all over that band in the most irrational way. Haven't run across the gross simp shit like for Jinjer as much, but they definitely lack self awareness. I guess they have recency going for them since the band hasn't been around that long. Definitely agree with pretty much everything on here though. Huge Tool fan, but damn. As someone that wears band shirts and has Tool shirts, I basically can't wear them in public anymore. Either someone wants to talk about the Fibonacci sequence with me or everyone thinks I want to talk about that. No thanks.

[@Lemon-rk9hq]

Speaking of this I was at a tool concert earlier this year a guy next to me literally started crying when tool started playing and said please fuck me Maynard I was like wth man but at the same time I was laughing my ass off

[@roachdoggjr155]

straightest tool fan

[@Top10Dylan]

Any diaper rockin tool fans here?

[@drphilsranch6782]

The funny thing is that that’s the exact type of person Maynard would make fun of.

[@kayleighbrown459]

I'm bias, of course, but as someone who's been a fan of Rammstein for a good long while now, I've always found the fandom to be pretty chill. Like, there's disagreements but IDK, something about that band just tends to attract a more mentally mature crowd for some reason. Not to say that anyone who doesn't like them ISN'T mature or anything, it's just a vibe. Like when I talk to other Rammstein fans, especially online, it feels like I'm talking to adults. And that isn't something that's shared with some other bands.

[@MetalTrenches]

I've mostly had that experience. The worst ones are usually being assholes about not having perfect pronunciation

[@kayleighbrown459]

​@@MetalTrenches Yes. That's one of the few things we do tend to get niggly about. I've normally seen that kinda thing in comments of loudwire videos and the like. Which, I kinda understand cause like channels like those should probably do a bit of research into how to pronounce German words if they're gonna talk about German songs. But if it's just like average every days people, it's pretty cringe at best. I've also come across some very VERY minor gate keeping with certain people who can speak fluent German but it's not really common. Also we Europeans fans tend to make fun of America. Like, a lot. For most it's just a bit of fun but there's always the odd few bad apples.

[@popps6402]

I think with Arch Enemy it is even worse than Jinjer. I am a girl and can not go to their concerts alone anymore. Already in the queue there was a guy not leaving me alone for hours until we got in, even though I told him multiple times to fuck off. I also met the band that day and the people next to me talked about Alissa like she was some kind of hooker. Even in the small moshpit I was in was a guy who just wouldn't leave me alone until I screamed at him to stop. In the livestreams, there are also so many thirst comments and it is very embarrassing.

[@MetalTrenches]

That's shitty. And yeah, the treatment of Alyssa is gross. Like look, I'm a guy and I'm not made of stone... she's gorgeous. But that doesn't mean I have to constantly objectify her and feel the need to verbalize every thought I have about her looks. Some things you just keep to yourself.

[@counterflare]

I am writing news for a long time running Arch Enemy fanpage and have access to all the comments people ever left since 2007, and can relate, Alissa's fans are horrible. Yes there have always been haters and thirsty douchebags, but seems like people treat her with way less respect than Angela. Most of the new fans I see there don't even care about the band too much, they only want the singer's photos, only comment them and only in inappropriate way. A few years ago I was ensured that is Johan fanbase that is the most toxic, but now I feel so sorry for her, Michael and the guys actually UPD: Apparently now we have a load of people who write s..t about Angela's appearance, even making horrdenous comments referred to N.zi Germany. What the hell?! I was already about to leave several times, because of the absolutely disgusting feedback to the posts I'm making. People were so different before Alissa stepped in.. What is going on with this world

[@sadmarinersfan8935]

I love both bands but I do agree the fans are horrendous it’s sad

[@MarshFogBand]

Exodus should have been the list, I like Exodus but the metal elitist and Metallica hater is annoying

[@Amarth13]

Tool fans can be horrible. I've been kicked out of two Tool fan pages because of politics and people saying the members would never want me or anyone on my side as fans because we're all racists and what not. The one power metal band that I think could rank high is Blind Guardian, they do have some dedicated fans. SOAD and RATM would probably be up in that fanatic range too.

[@MetalTrenches]

The comments on my review of the Opiate 2 single are hilarious

[@RobertGraefeMusic]

That was super interesting! ... and in a way kind of sad to hear how these weird energies play out in some fan bases. Cool video nevertheless, thanks for that! :)

[@jesselucian106]

There was one time when I was listening to the first six feet under album- which was actually tolerable for me, and I said in the comments “wow, this album actually isn’t too bad unlike the rest of their material”, and immediately I got a comment from a six feet under fan saying “STFU, Chris Barnes is a complete badass, and if you don’t like him, then he’ll put YOU six feet under!”

[@harrisholt12]

As a longtime Slayer fan, I never had a bad experience at a show, but that might be because they weren’t an opener. But the online community was so toxic. I posted something about how all the members in Slayer and to an extent Kerry King have made some great records and I got so many angry comments that I ended up deleting the post. It was a fucking war zone. Again, toxic as hell.

[@UnchainedEruption]

I think it's just the internet. You can't have an opinion online because whatever you say will contradict and therefore enrage anybody with a differing opinion (which is everybody).

[@Rosterized]

I dont understand stan culture towards anything in general, do these people only listen to that one band they stan for and have to defend everything they do to death while being in denial about their newest albums not being that good as their old albums? Its just so weird you can listen to multiple bands and just accept if one band misses every once in a while. Also dont they have anything better to do during their day than to scour the internet looking for negative things being said about their favourite band

[@MetalTrenches]

I don’t get it either. I will roast the fuck out of even my favorite bands if they drop something I don’t like. Honesty is better than being a drone.

[@kayleighbrown459]

I figured it was just like being a fan to the point where you wanna find out about them on a more personal level

[@Sweat404]

Tool fans are the worst for me, they believe they’re in an exclusive club and listening to their music is some sort of spiritual/religious experience

[@PacifistNihilist]

One that should be on here is Mike Patton. I friggin’ love him but I know the fan base can be wild.

[@MetalTrenches]

Fair. I love him too

[@MarshFogBand]

I feel like Mike Patton fan base is similar Devin Townsend the two both make fun of themselves

[@GabiBrooks]

@@MarshFogBand I love both and I agree. Most fans are ridiculous 😂😂

[@mejva]

System of a Down once supported Slayer on tour in Europe. They got so much shit on their concert in Poland that they haven't come back here for like 20 years.

[@choptopshusband]

Slipknot are either the best or the worst people u can hang out with, I have a lot hate relationship with them

[@MetalTrenches]

Yeah it's really a roll of the dice

[@wheelsofmercury]

I was at that festival where Slayer played before Billy Talent with my mom. As a fan of both bands at that time, it broke my heart to see the animosity and pure idiocy of Slayer fans. I remember people were making signs with very crude insults directed at Billy Talent throughout the day. I remembered one guy in particular jerking off a foam finger ripped off from one of the festival's foam-hand things (y'know, like the ones you see at sporting events) in front of them playing. Very rude. I started crying and we went home straight away.

[@MetalTrenches]

Douche moves

[@wheelsofmercury]

@@MetalTrenches Yup, pretty much. Slayer fans are a 'special' breed, and not the good kind, if you catch my drift... Still love the band though.

[@MadMike1]

It was a total shitshow. I remember when we were lined up outside of the venue that morning. One kid screamed Billy Talent's name, and I swear like 5 to 10 people ganged up on him and told him to shut up. I thought they were gonna kill that poor guy. It was a mess when they came on stage.

[@wheelsofmercury]

@@MadMike1 Was the kid in a wheelchair? Cause that kid could’ve been me.

[@wheelsofmercury]

@@MadMike1 I actually remember cussing back at the Slayer fans before Billy Talent came on. I was a rebellious teenager back then lol

[@dannychane]

One band was missing: Old scool Suicide Silence fans from the era before Mitch Luckers passing. Their are like "Uhhhh, Mitch wouldn't like this... and that...", zero empathy for the other band mates, who not just their singer, but a friend.

[@kennedilove3250]

as an old ss fan i actually like there new stuff, there still good

[@dannychane]

@@kennedilove3250 I really like You Can't Stop Me! It was the best thing they could do after Mitch passing and I'm sure Mitch would be proud 😁

[@tam2071]

Love it aha especially after our comments the other day on toxic fans. Great vid

[@hangmanspark]

Lamb of God was one of the most violent shows I've ever been to. 2 knocked out girls, several broken noses and someone getting jumped in the pit I was next to. My buddy got sucker punched by a big lady. There were some nice people there, but it was violent af

[@Tikitackfouls]

Not surprised, at all

[@MetalTrenches]

Love the band but the fans are ass

[@hangmanspark]

@@Tikitackfouls we stuck around until the end because we love the band but it was sketchy

[@hangmanspark]

@@MetalTrenches me too. Does that make me self-aware ass?

[@olivierroussin4432]

I honestly think their last album wasnt really memorable

[@timhiltz6323]

I went to a Judas Priest concert my area, everyone seemed chilled and nice. There was about 12000 or more people.

[@rebeccamcguire2798]

Sadly maiden is chill on the internet you can be a toxic peace of shit and think yo can get away with it I had your experance as well everyone I knew smoked a joint and chilled

[@emocatdad]

The only thing more toxic than these fan bases are Mad Mike’s opinions. -69/10

[@jasonmacqueen1017]

gotta say went to a Devin Townsend concert (right before the c*vid shutdown) and Devin has one of the most diverse fanbase I've ever run across, I cant see the Devin Fanbase being toxic at all, so I agree mostly harmless or not toxic at all.

[@pyramidhead3109]

I thought of the same thing, until I saw this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2eufIWYnrGopcU

[@jasonmacqueen1017]

@@pyramidhead3109 ouch..... I wasnt that much of a fan of that album but I guess even HevyDevy has some toxic fans... well at least as an Alabama football doesn't have a toxic fanbase..... I joke.

[@blastbeatpie3239]

Yeah we're definitely an interesting bunch! I think everyone that never appreciated his solo work (IE SYL fanboys) left a long time ago, so there's not much negativity these days

[@MadJackChurchill1312]

@@blastbeatpie3239 Yeah SYL fans were obnoxious. Music was awesome though. But that still rings true today.

[@lucadondoni843]

I'm almost a boomer, and I've seen tons of concerts. Most dangerous fans: Korn. Never seen so much blood at a concert 😰 The calmest fans: Messhugah. The sonic wave erased everything. All. We were calm, at peace 😌 Probably sent to another dimension 🌌🌠🛸

[@MetalTrenches]

I saw them live and when Future Breed Machine hit I transcended the astral plain 😂

[@Theringodair]

The Dio years of Black Sabbath are awesome.

[@xtransxcorex]

I feel like Slayer fans are the antithesis of your average Metallica fan, like how they are for Maiden and Priest and LoG and Pantera. And I think it's the same for Mayhem fans vs Darkthrone fans as well

[@MarshFogBand]

I like both slayer and Metallica

[@statusquo7128]

My ex was such a Tool fanatic that it disturbed me. I couldn't even appreciate anything they created until years after.

[@Questformetal]

Depends on the type of video you make tbh, never had any bad opeth or dream theater comments on my channel but i've had bad rammstein ones. I know Jamie got disliked to hell for one of his rammstein videos too so you could put any of the bands in any order depending on your content. Fun video anyway 🍺

[@MetalTrenches]

It’s just that some fanbases get WAY more out of control in the face of criticism than others.

[@pairofjeansreviews2034]

When I started my Six Feet Under videos like last year I had NO IDEA people even like six feet under now.. them and Smashing Pumpkins fans are the ones who sucked the most for me

[@MetalTrenches]

Oh man yeah SP fans are bad too

[@gggarth666]

How can anybody defend that last Six Feet Under album ?! 😂😂

[@santaisgruntinginmycloset9422]

I actually really liked SFU first 3 albums,and the rest were... Fuck idek how to describe,true carnage was real wierd,I think I hate it but idefk,and the rest were just bad, especially the latest one, EEEEEE

[@ptbempire]

Nightwish is Definitely S tier absolutely hate the hate for the past singers I like all singers of the band

[@NbleSavage]

Great video, nice collab. Came for 'Tool fans suck' and stayed for 'Wow, Burzum fans suck too'

[@MetalTrenches]

lol thanks. Good summary

[@pierce7992]

I love tool pantera and burzum ive seen a few racists in pantera and burzum but tool fans are quite aggressive at times

[@devinwilliams4038]

FFDP’s genre is officially called “Army wife metal.”

[@MetalTrenches]

I so love that too

[@JohnDoe-tj4ml]

As a FFDP fan, that is so true

[@jimmyseit934]

I’d put metal fans in general at the very very top

[@_CPP_]

Certain Deathcore fans in general are really annoying

[@luisdeleon3137]

I’m kinda surprised you didn’t mention Dance Gavin Dance but as a resume w/ mathcore it’s pretty accurate

[@olivierroussin4432]

Cannibal corpse fan are like bears you want to hug❤️

[@MetalTrenches]

lol

[@killerchristian567]

When you said that people got mad when you said that you didn't like the new STP album when you wanted to like it. I completely can see this because I was the same about Motionless in White

[@ΕίμιστιόλτσΑριστιράςτσΠρουόδκι]

Here in Europe, & Greece in specific, also Blind Guardian Fans are 1 of a Kind! Not Aggressive but a bit Nerdy…Mainly some years ago they had a Huge Funbase!

[@Ryan-pb9xp]

Bahahaha! Billy talent playing after slayer? God, I wish I was there to see that

[@sheldoncooper8199]

I swear I am a New Jinjer Fan since January 2023. But i swear i MAINLY Love Tatiana for her Voice. Why would i Simp for a women that is 100 % Out of my League thats so 2023. Their first 2 Albums is THE BEST music for a Arms or Shoulder Workout.

[@Tikitackfouls]

Not necessarily a fanbase, but Derrick Green haters. I guess it technically is Max era only Sepultura fans

[@P3rm4frost]

I still cant stand Derricks soulless hardcore shouts...its all just angry mindless screaming. Max is the same with soulfly now, plays the same 0010 0010 thrash riffs since forever. But at least he had some kind of soul to his voice back then. Derrick is like a shouting little teeny boy complaining how hard life is.

[@Ravell52]

Aka, people who are right.

[@superstarthomas]

As a Rammstein fan I totally agree the only time they might jump on you or pick on you a little if you called them nazis (which is silly) or if you pronounce the name incorrectly. lol

[@darrellmetcalfe3615]

ughhhhh the ram steen people lol

[@movzhepok]

I've spent my time in the Metallica fanbase, and I would say that there are 3 types of fans, 2 toxics and a normal fanbase : the 80's toxic onces "All is trash after AJFA" ; another type of toxic who, on the opposite praises absolutely everything they make, "everything they release is gold" and then the more normal type who can accept that they're not perfect and have done discutable choices in their career. And I think, depending on the timeline, I was in each of the category at some point...!

[@PaisiosOfGOAOA]

As a hardcore Slipknot fan I could say that the fan base at least in the circles I roam are very toxic towards the band. Especially with the new album being as trash as it is. A lot of people are finally waking up to this band basically slowly dying in front of our eyes. The Mask just are the same from we are not your kind which I personally love we are not your kind I have a tattoo that's based on one of the songs from the album but it's just so rushed but I do know that there are fans that are pretty stands so like they like everything but then again every band has that but as far as I see I'm a hardcore guy I collect jumpsuits and mask can I listen to the music. And I'm in like a lot of different groups a lot of the people that I know that like them just like them because of the old stuff and they could have cared less about anything that came after Iowa

[@m.a.p.dmstrainingandequipm8076]

A bit late on this one but a nu-Metal category would have been on the same level as Mathcore. Some bands that could be included : - Nickelback (Buzzkill … We know you love your band but it’s FM Rock Music) - Godsmack (Are you Still There … One song band on repeat) - Deicide (Hello Glen ! Pure Pain) - Possessed (Tiresome, we know it was the birth of DM) - Death (Are You Still There … Sorry Chuck) - Bring Me The Horizon (Fanatics) - Messhugah (Are You Still There … Nothing relevant since Obzen sorry) - Limp Bizkit (Dumb of course) - Manowar and Danzig (Are you Still here ? Nobody listens to them anymore) - Megadeth (Tiresome … Dave was in Metallica, really ?)

[@AgoraphobicNews]

Being in a room with 3-4 Dream Theater was PAIN. You should just see their faces when I changed that 15 minute long song lol.

[@jeanfrancozaratemarcial7916]

Metal Meltdown would probably included Fear Factory in “Are you still here”? Or Fanatics, Dino himself unfortunately encourages the terrible behavior that has been going on for fucking decades. Still my favorite band, but without Burton.... Idk if I'll stick around much longer, the history of this band us quite the tragedy and a perfect representation of a clash of egos. The nicest members the band got in their history were Rhys Fulber, Raymond Herrera, Gene Hoglan, Byron Stroud and Mike Heller in my opinion.

[@alejandromolina2435]

thats true!! even Dino comment on the metal meltdown video i couldnt believe it!

[@nu-metalfan2654]

Fear Factory have toxic fans?, one of the last bands I would think that would have a toxic fanbase.

[@gggarth666]

The Tool fans are definitely unbeatable … but it is sometimes funny because they take themselves so super serious 😂 I had my bad experience with Deafheaven fans simply because I called the new album boring and uninspired ( and I’m one of those “hipsters“ who also liked Sunbather 😉). Have to say that Iron Maiden fans are like Slipknot fans based on my experience. Everything they do is a 10/10 and by the way they are a progressive band now because they write long songs😉

[@MetalTrenches]

Ooo Deafheaven is a good one

[@Jamiehorsleydml]

I covered Dream Theater for two years on my other channel and I didn’t think the fans were toxic. The Warning should have been on here and Rammstein should be higher, holy shit I was disliked bomb and some comments were brutal even though I was a fan

[@MetalTrenches]

Did you give the albums good scores? If so you just might not have incited their wrath.

[@Jamiehorsleydml]

@@MetalTrenches I said a few negative things one time but DT one of my all time favourite bands haha Pink Floyd has a pretty toxic fan base as well

[@superstarthomas]

@@Jamiehorsleydml I guess Rammstein does has a few fanatics. If you didn't like the self title album for example in the fan page they would they'd call you crazy. I loved that album too but even I can understand why it would be disappointing for some. But outside I haven't seen any real crazy gate keeping fans for Rammstein.

[@tenacious_JB]

In light of recent event (Metal Meltdown will probably agree) I'd include Fear Factory at top tier. I had never come across a fan of theirs before and wasn't too familiar with their music either. But the general consensus (including the band leader himself) in the comments unter Metal Meltdown's review was that Fear Factory is the most genious thing the metal world has seen and anyone who disagrees is a poser or whatever.

[@jeanfrancozaratemarcial7916]

MetalTrench is a mega fan of FF, so he had bias for the new album Aggression Continuum, not to say that's a bad thing, but he was kind on it. However Metal Meltdown was kinda purposely mean to the new one to even say it's worst than Transgression (the objectively worst FF album) but at the same time he wasn't dunking on anyone that loves the new material, he encourages the positivity even. However, since the moment he mentioned he liked Transgression better than AC, it's when he railed A LOT of people, including Dino Cazares himself to some extent. Is the FF video still up?? Haven't seen it pushed by the algorithm

[@darenwalker2517]

It just strikes me as funny that the black metal community can be so up tight about music where the bands essentially just winged it. No cares given about the sound quality.

[@mrfishmanelite4687]

I love Maiden and Rammstein and honestly I havent encountered any bad people from either, but thats probably just because im not that deep into the fandom, i just love the music.

[@GarethAlan81]

Six Feet Under has fans?

[@AlexPhantom1292]

I never knew that Opeth and Jinjer Had The Most Toxic Fandom as Tool and Dream Theater... I love Both Bands and Also I'm a Big Fan of Tool and Dream Theater because thanks to them I introduced myself to all Metal, Not only progressive, It incluides Death, Black, Nu, Alternative, German Thrash, Melodeath, Djent... Etc. but I know how annoying are Tool Fans... More than Dream Theater Fans haha... Well only in My experience... But as Well I keep te Things simplier and I'm Big fan of Rammstein more than DT or Tool, but at Same as Opeth (and Fear Factory, Trivium and Annihilator) Edit: actually I was thinking that Metallica Fans are the worst... But I was surprised that they Don't I love a Lot of that Bands, but I'm honest, they have Things that Sucks Opeth's Heritage Sucks Dream Theater's Systematic Chaos is really good (I Don't know the hate in this Album) Tool's Undertow Sucks more than 10,000 Days (personal opinion and Actually I prefer 10,000 Days than Ænima)

[@jb_50w78]

Dream Theater fans are unique in that they hate the band more than anyone else. If you ever say any album after Portnoy is good, there will inevitably be a DT fan who will attack you. The whole Portnoy vs Mangini thing is one of the most annoying things ever with the fans. And with every new album they release (even when Portnoy was still in the band), the fans will always shit on it more than anyone else. It is so tiring to deal with the fans as a fan yourself, it’s like you are not allowed to enjoy any DT album except for the albums they approve of. I have never known of any other band whose own fans criticize their music so much. They are the most heavily criticized band by their own fan base. No matter what DT does, DT fans will hate it. They even wrote a song about how nothing they ever do is enough to satisfy the fans (Never Enough off of the Octavarium album). It’s actually a common thing to say amongst Dream Theater fans that nobody hates Dream Theater more than a Dream Theater fan.

[@MetalTrenches]

lol that’s so beyond shitty of them

[@jb_50w78]

@@MetalTrenches to be fair, I have only ever encountered this online and not in real life. Every DT fan I met in real life was a very nice and chill person and they are very often musicians themselves (mostly guitarists) who just simply love all kinds of music. I always thought of DT as a musicians band making music other musicians like. But that seems to attract a lot of the annoyingly pretentious prog fans. The ones who think complex, technical and groundbreaking is better. But I think they’re a very vocal minority. But man those guys are worse than the Tool fans.

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson fans should get a mention.

[@brandonwiseman2906]

25:10 - Was that the Amnesia Rockfest in Montebello, Quebec??

[@matthewbooth9457]

I love that they will voice there opinion and don't care what the keyboard warriors will say

[@blackwaterrust476]

Surprised Megadeth, Killswitch Engage, Fear Factory, Nokturnal Mortum, Nightwish fans were not mentioned lol That Tool “Progressive Butt Rock” comment was funny. I do love Tool but I don’t Love Tool fans

[@MetalTrenches]

We easily could have gone on. Honestly Dino is the worst Fear Factory fan lol

[@BigDenk]

Was gonna mention how horrible Nightwish fans are

[@MetalTrenches]

@@BigDenk i haven’t yet ventured down that road

[@BigDenk]

@@MetalTrenches They're quite something

[@superstarthomas]

@@BigDenk I feel like a lot of overly loved bands like that would have such a reactionary fanbase. Like they would be surprised that someone doesn't like their favorite band just because the majority does and thinks it's the best band in the world.

[@jeffwellman2883]

I love Jinjer, but I have to agree with you about some of the fan groups.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

With the Ukraine war I believe that this Jinjer toxicity must stop once and for all because at the end of the day everyone from Jinjer is just human not Gods (come on comrades)

[@MetalTrenches]

THANK YOU

[@crazydud3380]

On a similar note, kudos to Slaughter to Prevail for speaking out against the war in Ukraine. As a Russian band, they take a major risk by speaking out.

[@gavinchambliss8576]

@@crazydud3380 they moved to florida like a month ago to specifically escape russias bullshit

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@crazydud3380 And yet they were like FUCK IT!!!!! I DON'T CARE IF I DIE THIS BULLCRAP WAR HAS TO END NOW

[@Eccentricjuices]

The new Tool album was…………………………………… Boring. Btw this is coming from a die hard fan of the band.

[@emmalengel9146]

Little late to the party but whatever... I really liked the record, but I discovered tool like a year and a half ago, and even then only selectively listened to a few songs here and there. But then a few weeks ago i listened to all the records in their entirety and all of a sudden fell in love with them in such a weird transcendental way😅 anyway, since I'm not a long time fan, for me it's great that the albums are so different because i can choose FI if I'm feeling calm and melancholic, or Aenima if I want some more anger, or Lateralus if i just want to spiral out and meditate haha I get though if you've been waiting for the record for 13 years and you were hoping for edgier more unique stuff like third eye or Rosetta stoned, it can feel a little like a letdown. I'm really hoping their next will have something along those lines but it seems Maynard has deliberately shifted to a more smooth sound idk

[@edwardplain4688]

Proggresive buttrock is hilarious to hear as a tool fan

[@TERMINATOR-0002]

I would love to see a part 2 to this video

[@AbhijeetSingh-ed3lw]

I think your argument with Opeth will hold more weight if it was the other way round...

[@b-retrogamer2324]

Sepultura fanbase can be pretty toxic. The Max vs Derrick crowd not being able to separate the two versions

[@gwyn3219]

tbh only toxic fans I've seen in the Cannibal Corpse fanbase are some Chris Barnes fanboys who are like "Chris is god, CC went to shit after he left." But I really don't encounter too many of them as George and Chris fans seem to mutually respect each other for the most part.

[@SolarGlu]

As a fan of over half of these bands, i can confirm.

[@jacquesberger]

Felt like home with that "Ah tabarnak!"

[@dimitristsekeris1821]

I had a recent "Buzzkill" experience with an Iron Maiden fan. I posted on a Facebook team about Björk's album, Medúlla. And she comes up in the comments like "Why don't you listen to Iron Maiden for example?" I was like "I don't care about them." And she was like "Pfff. For real? You haven't listened to them. You don't understand them. Elitist. How has Björk contributed to music? They have more record sales than her."

[@dmplacencia]

I personally don’t listen to either, but if I did I’d go for Björk, I’ve heard she can fuckin sing

[@MetalTrenches]

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[@olivierroussin4432]

Any prog band fanbase is terrible but Tool fan waited 15 years to pump up their anger XD.

[@StevenBeverage]

Any Five Finger Death Punch far is a bound to be a douchebag. Top tier. I typed this just before you mentioned them thinking "how did the get left out?"

[@illegalkiwi2193]

Dream theater and FFDP. I think Mortician fans can be intense too but no where near as bad

[@drumboy940]

Nightwish with its who is the best frontwoman eternal feud.

[@donovan5595]

Jinjer fans are very toxic they don't respect other people's opinion they want everyone to love their over-effect singer and music

[@Mardenski100]

'Up the Irons' relates to West Ham United of whom Steve Harris is a huge fan to the extant the the Iron Maiden football team play in West Ham colours.

[@cat_city2009]

As a huge Rammstein head, I can confirm that we are nice people. We're there for the over the top theatrics and cool music. No need for toxic edgelordism. Also Dethklok. We know we're a bunch of posers and dorks and are fine with the fact that we love a fake cartoon band.

NIN can compete with Tool and Jinjer fans

[@ChrisStoneinator]

As a fan of Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Mayhem, Evanescence and Burzum, I am in a superposition of states. I will say that as a Priest fan I do enjoy talking trash about Iron Maiden to a slightly unhealthy degree, and I’m not alone in that! If you want to experience the Priest fanbase in not-harmless mode, just say Maiden>Priest and see what happens. But you guys wouldn’t say that… right?

[@hemlock399]

Hahahaha! I'm a massive fan of Priest & Jinjer, one at each end of your ranking. I like other bands on your list, of course, but the passion's not as intense. No one can tell me that Rob & Tatiana aren't the metal god & goddess - bow down! LOL! Fun topic.

[@superstarthomas]

You know I could of sworn Priest would be higher mostly because of boomer attitude a lot of fans of old bands have.

[@facelift2294]

I listen to most of these bands. Slipknot, Metallica, Judas Priest, it's a lot of them here I actually like. I used to be an un-ironic Trapt fan my sophomore year of high school. I listened to that whole debut. But holy shit was I happy to get out because Chris T. Brown is the classic example of someone trying way too hard to make his band relevant when the popularity went down YEARS ago. His Twitter rants made it hard to book shows at bar and grills now. Nobody will probably ever run to their rescue. I listened to Headstrong recently, more like two months ago. And I confirm. It's irrelevant. Thankfully my senses came in and found better nu metal bands, which you actually introduced me to 40 Below Summer and Taproot. So thank you for giving me better music by better bands.

[@dropkick9517]

Enjoy the content as always but I do have some thoughts. It seems a lot of this is based off experiences you guys have seen or heard specifically coming from the internet. To keep it a buck, the internet inherently being a platform for people to say literally whatever fucked up or idiotic thing comes to mind without the concern of having any consequences means people will always go to the extreme. I could go to a fuckin K-Pop video and see the same things that you guys mentioned here as far as toxic fanbases go. I think a better measure of the fanbase is the overall demeanor and attitude those fans have outside of the internet. The best example I can think of (isn't metal) would be ICP and their Juggalos. I've met some really cool ones, when I was a teenager but overall as a general rule of thumb thats one of the most toxic fanbases out there. Also last thought, I cant say shit about people stanning over Tatiana or Brittany from Unleash the Archers... I literally have an entire playlist of female fronted metal bands because it just hits different some times and I think any stans that come out do so with good reason.... thats still not me giving them permission to be creepy lil fuckboi weirdos in the comment sections lmao

[@magicsteve5523]

Fan bases with no self awareness are the worst

[@kierenbuckley370]

I like them but I would add Turnstile fans to Tiresome to Buzzkill