Create Hair and Fur Directly in Unreal Engine using the Ornatrix Plugin

[@bcon404]

I tried this after seeing your video and I thought it was pretty solid but I'm better suited using C4D for hair for now.

[@metatrox]

Yeah not as advances as other but helps keep me in unreal

[@apixel.content]

Thank you for making this video on Ornatrix. Would love to see how you would style metahuman hair, if you are planning another video on Ornatrix. Thanks!

[@metatrox]

No problem, I’ll look into the MetaHuman stuff. I know the official Ornatrix guys have a couple videos showing modifying grooms

[@apixel.content]

Thank you, I saw those but want to see them from a customer or user point of view before getting this also.

[@metatrox]

@@apixel.content I hear ya! I’ll take a look at it. Sounds like fun anyways

[@apixel.content]

@@metatrox appreciate it! thank you!

[@dow647]

🔥Thanks for the video, this is an amazing plugin by the looks of it.

[@denniss.3907]

i like your ue tutorial videos. keep it up. big help and interesting

[@metatrox]

Thanks will do!

[@adarnia]

Can I use this plugin to add and create fur to an already rigged with animation character that i imported to Unreal Engine?

[@metatrox]

@@adarnia yup!

[@ZanderSwart]

awesome! nice to see your work again!

[@metatrox]

Thanks!

[@dysnXO]

hey, i cant seem to find support contact in their site, but since you have this plugin, do you know if its possible to export Grooms out of unreal and use them in other software such as houdini, blender?

[@metatrox]

Sorry I’m not aware if you can or not. Maybe as alembic or something

[@AlessandroSchiassi]

Great video and great plugin!!

[@Romeo615Videos]

how does it work for black people hair and braids/dreads?

[@metatrox]

Haven't attempted anything like that. unfortunately

[@RetzyWilliams]

The Hair 3 is the Tina Turner preset 🙂

[@metatrox]

LOL yup!!

[@FilmryStudios]

Question So Im trying to plugin out right - how do create custom hair for a skeletal mesh -?

[@mueezkh]

Does this work with PathTracer

[@metatrox]

Pretty sure it does once converted to UE groom

[@GameArtsCafe]

Have you tried widening the Hair to make Hair cards and switch the material out with a typical hair card mat? - this is similar to Zbrush Fibermesh hair to Card thickness. I don't want to break anything otherwise I would have tried.

[@metatrox]

I have t personally tried this sorry.

[@PersiaAhmad]

Why should we pay 300$ when we have Blender and it is totally free?

[@metatrox]

The ability to not leave unreal

[@PersiaAhmad]

@metatrox That's impossible, we need to model assets, create animations and import them, also a good game, even a tiny indie game better have some kind of music or at least some click and clang sound. Most of these can not be achieved in unreal alone. Unreal engine 5.x has made some serious advancements compared to UE 4, like adding lots of 3D modelling tools. But at the end of the day you still need tons of things that you can't achieve without living the Unreal Engine!

[@metatrox]

@@PersiaAhmad you are correct, however I value each and every moment I don’t have to leave unreal and switch to another software. Plus it fits the style of work I do. I don’t model anything. Just like making cool stuff .

[@gerardosanchez6045]

Super cool video man, one question. Does it deform properly with blendshapes in an avatar??? I've had issues putting groom hair in the avatar face with blendshapes. it doesnt deform at all. Thanks for this video

[@metatrox]

Not sure off hand, haven’t tried with blendshapes

[@severinsiebenschlafer3406]

Hey, how can I exclude certain parts (eyes) of my skeletal mesh from hair generation?

[@metatrox]

I haven’t used updated version of the tool recently but in earlier versions basically you had to paint it all if you want to exclude stuff. I couldn’t get the fur ball to work and then delete areas

[@moejahi3d3]

How is the performance of this? Does it kill it, or can you use it for games like can you have 20 of them wolves running around np? Awesome vid btw! subbed

[@metatrox]

I think if you limited the amount of hairs you could get away with a few of them. however this is fully simulated hair not just hair cards so performance will be hit for sure.

[@moejahi3d3]

@@metatrox Yeah figured..made a "groom" alembic as well with the new blender tools but even with agressive lodding, limiting strands i still take a huge hit with more than 4-5on screen hehe was wondering if this would be different. I cant do hair cards and people quote offers way 2 high for me to pay hehe. Guess ill have to find a way hehe

[@ninomancuso7021]

Have you tried using this hair on a geocached mesh, like with uDraper?

[@metatrox]

Something tells me it won’t work. I tried on chaos cloth but no luck.

[@ninomancuso7021]

Oh this plugin doesnt work on cloth physics?@@metatrox

[@metatrox]

I dont know if Unreal supports a Groom on top of clothing. @@ninomancuso7021

[@ninomancuso7021]

Oh? So a groom on skeletal mesh cape for instance that's in a character's BP isnt supported? Wow I wouldn't have thought! @@metatrox

[@ninomancuso7021]

I found this guy has added hair to a skel mesh kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5uZgWSpndFlbsU

[@joepveldhuis47]

Hey There! Thanks for your tutorial, really appreciate you helping the community! A quick question though... For the wolf, I need something similar but would like to animate the wolf in sequencer with pre-made animations. However whenever I add the animations the Ornatrix hair does not follow the model but stays stationary from the start position. Do you know if one can use sequencer with the ornatrix plugin? Thanks again and regards

[@metatrox]

You have to create a groom binding component. I struggled with this also. The binding will cause the groom to move with the animation but only when you are simulating not just playing a sequence. You have to simulate first then play sequence .

[@ghelonajie1972]

its nice but i still hope for @unrealengine to add hair modeling system in ue 5 or what... only me?

[@metatrox]

I’m all for that also!! I hate having to leave unreal for other stuff

[@urgisjot]

Hey, thanks for the tut, - does this wokr on Mac M1?

[@metatrox]

I’m not sure. I haven’t tried on Mac

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

Are physics automatically enabled? In Cinema 4d, the MOOV physics modifier needs to be added. Do you think this will be good for long hair styles with collisions? Could you try one and post the result?

[@metatrox]

The physics are already added. I’ll look into collisions because they not on by default. You do have to make a binding groom when putting on a full moving character like the wolf.

[@kma3339]

Metatrox, What camera are u using i thought u were a 3d model at first

[@metatrox]

LOL some uncanny valley in my real face huh? LOL It’s a Panasonic GH5 with a 25mm 1.8 lens. Soft box studio light up above

[@StaxKarratGang]

Say I make a groom can I export it out of ue as one?

[@metatrox]

Probably, however you’d prolly just make the groom in the other software instead. Blender is free

[@StaxKarratGang]

@@metatrox 🤔 copy thanks 🙏🏼

[@KensireGames]

How do you change the color

[@metatrox]

Duplicate the material and you should be able to adjust the color. A couple of these I actually snatched the material from metahumans. Looks nicer than default

[@nicolajesteban9211]

Hi after installing it manually I'm now trying to enter the ornatrix mode, but it doesn't show in UE. Do you know why that could be? Maybe you could do an installation/setup video, because the documentation on their website is not great, and doesn't help with troubleshooting at all. Do you know how to activate the plugin so that it shows in the mode panel?

[@metatrox]

Make sure you go under plug-in in your project and enable it. It does have a problematic installation especially with the authentication server

[@nicolajesteban9211]

@@metatrox yes I've done that, and it still doesn't show up in the modes unfortunately. did it work for you after you just ran the installer? because I had to manually copy the plugin into the plugin folder of the project… just trying to get to the bottom of it, thanks for responding :)

[@metatrox]

@@nicolajesteban9211 let me see if I can remember what I had to do. I know I had issues also and then bam it just worked LOL!

[@nicolajesteban9211]

@@metatrox I figured it out :) had to select install plugin files to local drive, and then move the installed plugin files to the UE path in the explorer

[@SuperMontana2008]

does this work in VR?

[@metatrox]

Not sure, does VR support the standard unreal groom?

[@modz7014]

Groom hair is meant for CG and cutscenes, this is very intensive way of using hair, groom is not really meant for a real time game, it tanks the performance, you can take another approach like hair cards

[@herodes6200]

THe WildLife people are greaceful for this

[@SolitarySubstructure]

Yikes, buggy af for $600 USD lol

[@metatrox]

Totally get it.