Neither are better or worse then the other. Except Hamon, hamon is better.
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@drprofcapt7 жыл бұрын
2:26 "Every living thing- everything that is alive is able to use hamon" Except Speedwagon.
@johnathannelson61027 жыл бұрын
Soarel the Hobbit then why didn't he use it
@frank-o3997 жыл бұрын
johnathan nelson his hamon was too powerful it wouldn't be interesting
@HozukiHangetsu7 жыл бұрын
I thought the implication was that Zeppeli fucked up on purpose when he offered to try to awaken Hamon in Speedwagon.
@teodoricusslack45247 жыл бұрын
johnathan nelson unless you are born with a particular talent in it, hamon needs a lifetime of training to be used effectively like any martial art. Even if Zeppeli had correctly enabled speedwagon's hamon breath, it would have been too weak to be useful at all
@mrboerger16207 жыл бұрын
Jordan Del Colle Speedwagon can the writers didn't let him
@Andy-ui6pg7 жыл бұрын
The ripple vs the cripple
@joe67726 жыл бұрын
Andy Perez Don't put my boi Johnny Joestar into this.
@m.s.e.advanced28426 жыл бұрын
I shouldn't be laughing this hard
@Playirime5 жыл бұрын
Gotem'
@lemonyfish33035 жыл бұрын
The cripple wins
@Christian-cp7no5 жыл бұрын
Omfg HAHAHAHAHA LMAO
@Yunovus11237 жыл бұрын
So if we get a hamon-infused steel ball and throw it with the Super Spin...
@najadamu27247 жыл бұрын
"A Hamon-infused Steel Ball" was pretty much Joseph's Clackers from Part 2. But if it was infused with the Super Spin... I don't think it'd work TOO well on the Pillar Men, considering they're immortal anyway, unlike Valentine who aged rapidly. Joseph could defeat them if he had Super Spin-powered Tusk (or maybe even Hermit Purple, since it's a Stand), though.
@coconutwater70176 жыл бұрын
Ball breaker requiem
@awsomesaucekirby6 жыл бұрын
It melts into a fidget spinner
@narcisse22696 жыл бұрын
Hamon dissipates on non living/organic things when it loses contact with the user. you should use a wood ball or a wood+Satiporoja beetle wool ball.
@awsomesaucekirby6 жыл бұрын
@@narcisse2269 why not just use the wool for the string then, inlay the steel ball with wooden "veins" or have the balls be hollow and be filled with water? You can program the hamon to an absurd degree, so just have it that the energy stays in the chord until contacts with someone. Hell, let's go one step further, make one of theose tripping tools (3 balls attached to each other by string, affixed around a central axis) swap the chord for razor wire, fill the chord with the ripple, when you wind up the throw you give it spin.
@bait4sale90017 жыл бұрын
How about Spin AND Hamon? Use the Spin on a Hamon user, make them breathe 10 times better, then let them Overdrive. Jesus, that would be so powerful.
@dwemjutsu7 жыл бұрын
bait4sale9001 Like throw an air bubble to a hamon user?
@ariq457 жыл бұрын
"soft & wet"
@RequiemShin7 жыл бұрын
bait4sale9001 Spin + Hamon + Ultimate [Character] + Jonathan = Unbeatable
@fucingjames91937 жыл бұрын
Add Hokuto Shinken and you'll get Star Platinum
@maaxorus7 жыл бұрын
Fucкing James ATTATTATTATTATTATTATTA!
@AbsurdFalcon7 жыл бұрын
Spins Practicality: Johnny was able to spin his fingernails to brush his teeth and once ate pasta with them
@Utrilus7 жыл бұрын
But my fingernails don't spin. :I
@zyibesixdouze48636 жыл бұрын
Don't forget shredding cheese
@headhazed74796 жыл бұрын
He used tusk to move around once and never again
@aerrowqueing5 жыл бұрын
@Aidan Mason Yo, why, though? I never understood that part, honestly.
@gerharddamm59335 жыл бұрын
Aidan Mason My take is that Johnny was right when he had the intuition that mastery over spin could give him back the use of his legs in spite of Gyro’s skepticism. After becoming arguably the strongest spin user, he was able to use the spin within his own body to circumvent whatever deficiency/damage that kept him paralyzed.
@vhavahgmh5 жыл бұрын
Ripple: life energy Spin: araki writing stuff down
@mori76025 жыл бұрын
Ripple: Life energy Spin: Natural Mathematical energy
@InfernosReaper2 жыл бұрын
@@mori7602 *Sacred geometry
@stareatershaddai7 жыл бұрын
Actually, Gyro said that what they were both trying to achieve was the infinite spin. Ballbreaker just had parkinson's because the steel ball was damaged, so it never became infinite.
@boergerplays83536 жыл бұрын
Kara Kondžule Oooooooooooh well SHIT
@elbattarijamil77815 жыл бұрын
It wasnt a sphere shaped ball but it still broke through a dimentional wall and made valentibe old
@Mr.Slinky4 жыл бұрын
EL BATTARI Jamil the dimensional wall didn’t break it, but it got hit in the air and part of it chipped away, so when it collided with the dimensional wall, it broke it and actually made him older, but part of it was chipped away it wasn’t infinite spin
@bogart71223 жыл бұрын
Lmao "ballbreaker had parkinsons" bruh
@FermionsQuarksLeptonsBosons2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Leopoldshark7 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important uses; Hamon can fling oily spaghetti at other people and Spin lets you brush your teeth with your finger. Hamon seems to be able to manipulate living beings as demonstrated by Caesar using Hamon to control the woman and Joseph with the pigeon. I'd say that's a pretty useful and scary power to have that the spin can't. Possibly because the living beings are partially composed of water and Hamon works through a liquid medium.
@coha11327 жыл бұрын
Leopoldshark Wekapipo was able to blind people with his spin. That shit was extremely scary as well.
@Tarrabah7 жыл бұрын
Sanik Nyoom i can blind people by stabbing their eyes is that spin
@coha11327 жыл бұрын
Ribe's Shtpost Nah, that isn't mystical bullshit
@TempusKing7 жыл бұрын
Joseph stunned a man by just putting his hands on him, and charging Hamon through him.
@cctz_17 жыл бұрын
Ribe's Shtpost only if you spin while doing it
@BrBetim7 жыл бұрын
Hamon Infused Super Spin when
@jett_phil7 жыл бұрын
『B E T I M』 PART NINE PLEASE
@mirwaizuzair63867 жыл бұрын
『B E T I M』 when part 5 will be realised
@chadsknnr6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and have Santana come back with a Stand, too . . . .
@triplejo10226 жыл бұрын
Brazilian fella detected
@juanokug46 жыл бұрын
your god [HITLER] WHAT ABOUT NOW FUCK FACE
@aleks42567 жыл бұрын
The hamon they use on part 1 and 2 is healing hamon, I guess the hamon that ultimate Kars uses is the destructive kind that Will mentions when he's trying to destroy that steel door.
@InfernosReaper2 жыл бұрын
Probably just that most users didn't have much of a reason to make a damn hamon laser with it... probably because they didn't know what lasers were at the time
@H00st0n6 жыл бұрын
the quality of this channel has really gone down mentioning spin without speedwagons hat is a grave crime
@andreytolkushkin36113 жыл бұрын
Not really , I feel like it is something so obvious and fundamental that you don’t need to mention it as everyone knows it already.
@MrJavixd10006 жыл бұрын
5:07 that moment when two strong men gang up against a paraplejic...
@jt0n4 жыл бұрын
you mean, school?
@princesslomboy35124 жыл бұрын
@@jt0n e...EXCUSE ME?
@apersonontheinternet83407 жыл бұрын
How I see it is: Hamon is good against the undead and Spin is good against the living.
@najadamu27247 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Although, strangely, the Pillar Men aren't actually undead; they're living beings naturally weak to sunlight (which is why they lived underground or whatever) who are just above the humans on the evolutionary food chain. And all the stone mask is meant to do is awaken one's latent powers in the brain - it probably gave the Pillar Men their Modes, but not much else. So why Hamon still works against them is anyone's guess.
@SandonBranderson7 жыл бұрын
+Naj Adamu because it replicates the sun, which is their weakness, so they were vulnerable without the masks, such as Santana who I don't think used a mask.
@sgtvirus66966 жыл бұрын
A person on The internet hamon is actually useful to the living sure not as useful as fighting vampires but still pretty useful remember when Joseph was able to launch a Coca-Cola bottle cap at the cops fingers and the one time when Joseph was also able to explode a cactus into a guy's face and I'm pretty sure that's actually the only time we've seen hamon against humans but those still show how effective hamon can be against humans
@regionfuego66 жыл бұрын
you do remember that Hamon can both knock out immediately a human and also mind control them, right?
@funnyvalentine66705 жыл бұрын
@@najadamu2724 (Late Comment) I also think the stone masks gave the pillar men the ability to absorb people. As evidence when in the flashback scene when we see the other pillar men. They use spears, which are largely used for hunting, and as well it's stated that Kars studied Acupuncture. Which became of the stone masks. It'd make sense how humans are now able to feed with their fingers now instead of exclusively their mouth when they become a vampire.
@notsae664 жыл бұрын
You forgot that Hamon allows you to see the future even without Hermit Purple; that old sage dude knew exactly when Will would die by looking into his future and Joseph actually did have minor precognition. That alone massively increases its usefulness.
@uberd33234 жыл бұрын
Man imagine how strong Hermit Purple would have been if Joseph had kept up with hamon. I wish we had a ball breaker-like moment where we got to see HP at its full potential, since Joseph only used it like a rope/hacking tool
@howen4745 жыл бұрын
Man who seems drunk talks about an anime electric energy and a spinny ball
@ioioire46846 жыл бұрын
I feel as if hamon might be more useful in everyday life. due to things like being able to lift wet objects extremely easily while using hamon. walking on water, being able to block bullets (most likely other things) sort of water bending when it comes to shit like look at lisa Lisa's first appearance. can mind control/brain wash people kinda. And generally makes people stronger. I remember i made a reddit post with a ton more points but i cant remember them
@jt0n4 жыл бұрын
also you could light a small candle by focusing hamon through a tiny object
@Extra_YTer2 жыл бұрын
Who are you and why is being bulletproof an essential in your day to day life
@ioioire46842 жыл бұрын
@@Extra_YTer they fear my power
@desadograisedrobot515 Жыл бұрын
@@Extra_YTer I mean really if you can do these things people might wanna shoot you for... reasons.
@tippykaffu40477 жыл бұрын
Hamon makes legal loli possible.
@davidmora-san90867 жыл бұрын
I was confused for a second, but then realized that all the Touhou characters probably just know hamon
@sakkuyniron97567 жыл бұрын
After all, we all know Remilia is this universe's version of DIO.
@tippykaffu40477 жыл бұрын
***** Really? I thought it is Sakura.
@tippykaffu40477 жыл бұрын
David Mora-san Dio=Sakura
@sakkuyniron97567 жыл бұрын
Tippy Kaffu Actually, Dio is Sakuya (it's SAKUYA) and Remilia combined. Remilia is Dio Brando the vampire, and Sakuya has DIO's powers.
@xscythe675 жыл бұрын
All I could say is this, had any of the Jojstars and Friends learned either hamon, spin, or both, they would be more dangerous. People like Josuke and Giorno would benefit more from using hamon thanks to their abilities, while Kakyoin and Narancia would benefit from spin.
@uberd33234 жыл бұрын
If Kakyoin learned hamon and figured out how to channel it through Hierophant he would have singlehandedly defeated Dio Brando with his fucking web. While we're talking about Narancia and by Extendion Aerosmith, I wish we got to see Risotto Nero use his "master of puppets" ability more than once ; the idea of Metallica being able to control other stands is so cool.
@racersmod11104 жыл бұрын
How would the Spin help?
@linusmota97124 жыл бұрын
racersmod11 the spin when combined with the emerald splash or Aerosmith’s bullets would make the, even more deadly than they are
@racersmod11104 жыл бұрын
@@linusmota9712 , OK thanks
@InfernosReaper2 жыл бұрын
wouldn't spin be more effective for Mista than Narancia, since the his stand can go from just redirecting bullets to also amplifying their spin?
@gabrielcosta25607 жыл бұрын
Spin is better because you can use it to make a Young Woman looks like my Grandma, and when you make her look young again, she will be more sexy than before for an entire week.
@ChauNyan7 жыл бұрын
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN Sounds amazing. I feel like if the Spin was real, someone new form of pedophile would use it for their personal gain.
@SandonBranderson7 жыл бұрын
+ChauNyan if the spin was real, then I think almost everyone would try to learn it.
@Funstun-yk7oo5 жыл бұрын
@@ChauNyan would that even be illegal that hurta my brain
@HullsColby4 жыл бұрын
@@ChauNyan turn your grandma to a loli
@bobdoe34037 жыл бұрын
Did you mention how hamon users need to be more ripped to breath 10 times in 1 second, then a spin user would have to be? You see that moment when Jonthan was like "ah I'm super strong" and ripped that metal bar against tarkus was it. The knight loser. I say this because hamon is used to exceed human boundaries, as opposed to the spin which is to manipulate it with medical knowledge and things.
@punch33227 жыл бұрын
You gotta get ripped to use the Ripple.
@BlackKnightsCommander7 жыл бұрын
healer56heal You gotta get ripped to use a cripple, but marbles can be used by the cripple.
@anafu-sankanashi89334 жыл бұрын
So one is used to exceed human boundaries and one is used for outdoing them.
@Gabsboy1234 жыл бұрын
Jonathan: doesn't have a stand, but can stand Johnny: has a stand...
@joshuabennett82563 жыл бұрын
And didn't Johnny survive?
@nothinghere64103 жыл бұрын
@@joshuabennett8256 bruh
@henockmoi91233 жыл бұрын
@@joshuabennett8256 yike
@thatsoundslikeheresytomeyo49606 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I read that when Caesar was younger he would get into fights all the time and he would innately use the ripple which cause any one hit with it to fall into a temporary coma, so ripple could be useful against human opponents but in a nonlethal way.
@InfernosReaper2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the big ass wrench he loved to hit people with was all he needed to put them there... maybe the hamon kept people from dying from that like that should, as something he was doing subconsciously, since he's not a total dick
@okeiwusd5 жыл бұрын
hamon into stands : giorno giovanna's gold experience spin into stands: johnny's tusk
@starplatinum25484 жыл бұрын
What about Hermit Purple?
@HullsColby4 жыл бұрын
@@starplatinum2548 it's more of like a mutation basing on how it suddenly grew when DIO came.
@Clackerus3 жыл бұрын
@@HullsColby dio has it because he has Jonathon's lower body and hermit purple takes place on the arm
@HullsColby3 жыл бұрын
@@Clackerus I know.
@regtrigger75357 жыл бұрын
still think tusk act 4 is more deadly than hamon
@sugoiuseismoeabuse40587 жыл бұрын
Well of course, Tusk act 4 with infinite spin can pierce space time, making it so you can never escape it unless Johnny creates another spin in the opposite direction to cancel it out. It's pretty much on par with other main jojo stands in terms of how ridiculously op it can get. I really wish if Araki does another part that he explores act stands for his next mc. It was so satisfying to see Johnny and his stand start off as this weak man in a dangerous world grow into a person capable of literally standing on his own two feet against all odds. That and how his stand started off kind of weak compared to many other stands, then gets more op over time until it pretty much breaks the universe over its knee.
@regtrigger75357 жыл бұрын
Hung Tang ye i agree
@EverydayYounglife7 жыл бұрын
Hung Tang Watch as JoJolion has an enemy spin user and Soft & Wet remove the friction from the Spin making it useless. Would not put it past Araki to do that.
@sugoiuseismoeabuse40587 жыл бұрын
Speak Evil Reminder that Soft and Wet is so much bullshit and it isn't even a requiem stand. Stealth? Remove sound from objects. Attack? Bubbles everywhere stuffed with nails. Defense? Steal the hardness of a wall and use that on yourself. Star platinum had the weakness of range and getting overwhelmed, Crazy Diamond can't heal it's own user or bring back the dead, Stone Free is still string, Tusk requires Johnny to grow and use his horse to work. Soft and Wet doesn't have any of these weaknesses, not even the weakness of belonging to a dumb user.
@najadamu27247 жыл бұрын
It never stole the hardness of a wall in the story, as far as I can remember. And Soft & Wet's weakness is that it seems to be a relatively short-range Stand, and it's got a power stat of C, meaning it'd probably get wrecked by Star Platinum, Crazy Diamond, Sticky Fingers, Stone Free, and Weather Report when it comes to physical strength alone. It was almost defeated by I Am a Rock's core-attraction ability.
@doubleoof79074 жыл бұрын
What if: Joseph Joestar learned the Spin on accident while fucking around with his Clacker thingies.
@mrhuman50924 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@SandonBranderson7 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to spin a vampires brain back to normal?
@buffoonustroglodytus46887 жыл бұрын
Yup
@TheChaosOrganization4 жыл бұрын
I miss hamon, I wish it had been kept around as a secondary ability something people could use to compliment their stands instead of being a primary ability like it was in the beginning of the series.
@elzretro13674 жыл бұрын
Hopefully if & when we get a part 9, Araki bring it back
@Pocket-Calculator6 жыл бұрын
The Ripple has more uses. It can be used to expel poison from the bloodstream, heal wounds faster, modify the surface of liquids, walk on water or up a wet pillar, kill humans, etcetera. I'm surprised he didn't mention how the Spin creates ripples with the same pattern as The Ripple, as seen by Gyro when he had Jesus' eyeball inside him.
@DarkapostlesASMR Жыл бұрын
The spin has many uses too. It can be used to make the skin resist to bullets, contain or eliminate people at will, make your pain disappear, trasmit energy from an object to another, it can heal or leave your body dry, it can deflect phisical attacks, it can create mirages to destract your enemy, it can be used to stimulate muscles and manipulate water. There are many different styles, like Uekapipo's.
@theArcanaOFZero7 жыл бұрын
HAMON RUINED FIST OF THE NORTH STA......................... waitaminute
@armedweiss55317 жыл бұрын
And that's when you remember Jojo started off as a parody manga.
@EverydayYounglife7 жыл бұрын
Hakka No Togame Parody? not Homage?
@Melkac7 жыл бұрын
Pretty damn sure the "JoJo started off as a parody" thing is just a stupid meme. Part 1 had nothing to do with FotNS at first until Araki (probably forced by Jump) started ripping it off.
@AroxxKSL7 жыл бұрын
i only know about part 3's artstyle being a parody to FotNS
@lapislovesgaming87395 жыл бұрын
When your last name is zeppeli and you meet a friendly joestar: part 1 of 3 accepting your death
@funnyvalentine66705 жыл бұрын
SHHHHIIIIIIIIIIZZZZAAAAA
@kanekinzinzin5 жыл бұрын
Part 2: Help joestar as much you can Part 3 : your death has come
@StillIntoBeetles6 жыл бұрын
wait so is Golden Experienc a follow up to hamon in the sense it creates life? (well not actually because Hamon is the transfer of Life energy and Golden Experience just creates life forms somehow)
@kanekinzinzin5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense,since he is half jonathan half dio son(btw its more jonathan son than dio)
@SmokeyOwOs7 жыл бұрын
now..if someone had the mastery of the spin and hamon. they would be op af
@D-Havoc7 жыл бұрын
Its mainly their weakness to sunlight that ties the Pillar Man in the same boat as zombies and vampires as to why Hamon fucks them up so badly. But I also thought Johnny was able to achieve the Infinite Spin because he was also a better horse jockey than Gyro (as stated by Gyro) and thus was more capable of getting his horse to run at its "natural speed" or some romantic shit like that.
@D-Havoc7 жыл бұрын
***** I didn't say anything about Gyro not achieving Super Spin, I specifically said *Infinite Spin*. And Johnny got that from simply because he was a better horse jockey than Gyro. Gyro even hinted it to him and Johnny picked up on that. Gyro only knew enough about horse racing in order to compete and win, but horse racing was Johnny's life up intl he was paralyze.
@D-Havoc7 жыл бұрын
Never mind the last sentence. "Infinite Spin" is side effects of Tusk Act 4's special power with the energy taken from when Golden Rotation/Spin is combine with horse power. IN fact,, "Infinite Spin" is just a dubbed context to put in. My mistake. I just re-read chapters 77 to 87 of Steel Ball Run.
@pintitledploose94845 жыл бұрын
9:06 why yes I do remember the time Jonathan used sunlight yellow overdrive to kakyoin Johnny
@hirokimura13164 жыл бұрын
please zeppeli-san, it's a clue to...... Valentine's stand
@hirokimura13164 жыл бұрын
JOHHHHNNNNNYYYYYY
@overhaul.-.5 жыл бұрын
Johnny: “I’m a sick cripple, I don’t use the ripple!”
@cyan.63995 жыл бұрын
"we never got to see hamon pushed to the limit" we never see an 'infinite' hamon overdrive occur, but there's always that scene where kars punches the red stone of aja at the volcano.
@Yonster7812 жыл бұрын
We saw Kars use hamon
@MrFrete-mi9yf7 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF JOUSUKE 8 IS USING THE SPIN ?!?!
@JoelGarcia-lu3tw6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Frete he might be
@michaelcarrion15305 жыл бұрын
The quadrouple ball breaker
@eskimokizan5 жыл бұрын
Michael Carrion touché
@jakoski5 жыл бұрын
He is. Soft and Wet's "bubbles" aren't actually bubbles at all. They're actually hemicircle-shaped threads spinning at incredible speed.
@kanekinzinzin5 жыл бұрын
Damn,spin changes property,also in part 2 joseph gained hamon for being Jonathan grandson
@scotcheggable5 жыл бұрын
You forgot the hamon when amplified by the red stone heated the volcano so much it flung kars with enough power to reach escape velocity
@monsoul7775 жыл бұрын
Wait if hamon is life energy does that mean gold experience is a hamon stand
@uberd33234 жыл бұрын
Kind of. I wouldnt be surprised if GE having that was completely unrelated to Johnathan having Hamon but by technicality GE is the Tusk counterpart. Really wish there was a hamon user in Bruno's gang instead of Panacotta Fugo now.
@KonoGufo7 жыл бұрын
Since it's related to this video (kinda), can Johnny bring out Act 4 without activating the super spin? I think I remember seeing him having it out when he's trying to get onto that boat with Gyro's coffin and all, but I'm not sure if that really counts. My current theory is that Act 4 can still be brought out and do punch-ghost things, but it can't use the super spin unless Johnny does the horse thing.
@goose92455 жыл бұрын
Spin are for dinosaurs ripple are for monsters and aztec gods
@justaballwithablueeye58705 жыл бұрын
So... Craker Volley Hamon technique is cooler spin?
@bryanrigby44295 жыл бұрын
The "virgin" ripple vs the "chad" hamon
@ZanathKariashi7 жыл бұрын
Infinite rotation is the Super Spin done properly. Ballbreaker would have exactly the same effect as Tusk Act 4 if Gyro's steel ball hadn't scraped against Love Train and lost a chunk of itself which threw the spin off of the perfect rotation. This is explicitly stated in the manga itself by Valentine after being hit by it. Tusk does give Johnny some extra control with regard to spatial manipulation (and his nail bullet have a much smaller profile then gyro's steel balls), but the infinite spin is indeed just the super spin done correctly, Tusk just gives Johnny an easier time of landing it than Gyro does.
@MetiNotTheBadGuy7 жыл бұрын
Valentine takes the first hit directly, when Ball Breaker is originally shown off it smashes Valentines head and rides up his arm. Aging him rapidly on one side. I'd believe you if not every time Johnny uses some form or next step version of the spin, is it a better version then what Gyro can hope to do. So when Gyro's final Super Spin ability is to hype accelerate energy then Tusk Act 4 is to take that and go one step beyond. The infinite spin is someone only Johnny can do.
@ZanathKariashi7 жыл бұрын
except he explicitly points out the spin isn't perfect and why. Gyro's steel ball clipped the side of Love Train and it was thrown off balance so it wasn't a proper super spin.
@h20v5 жыл бұрын
Johnny: "I'm a cool cripple I don't use the ripple"
@GoyBenius_09017 жыл бұрын
Why the "Love Detterence" in the background again fam?
@thegr8tergold4077 жыл бұрын
Steven Armstrong Bomb ass song
@MortanAMrk6 жыл бұрын
i mean he also had heavens divide, maybe he just likes good music.
@haticll4 жыл бұрын
Damn bitch a traitor
@pinorska63165 жыл бұрын
Hamon is good against vampires Spin is good against... Uhm, dimensional barriers?
@kanekinzinzin5 жыл бұрын
Time stop,time erasing,since johnny stand is based on gravity,it cant get affected by stands like that(also i think he can escape Made In Heaven,since gravity works normally on Made in Heaven)
@sn4ke164 жыл бұрын
@@kanekinzinzin requiem can do same too
@DarkapostlesASMR Жыл бұрын
@@sn4ke16 not everyone is worthy of requiem. Giorno was the first one.
@camdenthompson43073 жыл бұрын
wait, what if someone could use both Hamon and the Spin, let me explain... so what if someone uses hamon on something like their Sweat or blood (or even the wine sawblades William used) and then used the Spin. would that result in something like pseudo black holes, enhanced strength, what?
@brandongreenland96324 жыл бұрын
6:05 *IS THAT “WHEN HEAVENS DIVIDE” IN THE BACKGROUND?!*
@bashlopez20904 жыл бұрын
BRO WHAT WAS THAT SONG IN THE VIDEO DURING THE COVERAGE OF HAMON THAT SONG WAS SICK
@shinronvaynex59006 жыл бұрын
i always believe that Spin and Hamon were supplied by the same bases but branched off. with Spin focusing in Technic and Hamon focusing on Power. because of that one scene jonny fell in the water and causes the same ripple effect as Hamon. and how i understand it the Golden Ratio, is the perfect form. that you can put power in without going out of control. which translate in to you can put infinite power in to it.
@roaringthunder1153 жыл бұрын
I just noticed how similar Jonathan’s healing is to Golden Experience
@frankorefice41157 жыл бұрын
Try mixing Spin and Hamon together! I would love to see the possibilities!
@goofyahsound14663 жыл бұрын
Harmon filled with stell ball
@OlPalJoe4 жыл бұрын
Eh ultimate kars isn't really a pillar man at that point. He's a weird mutant
@RichterBelmont22357 жыл бұрын
What's with the constant moe weaboo shit in my JOJO?
@Belowone7 жыл бұрын
Joey Diamond cus JOJO is Moe Anime.
@AraiiarA7 жыл бұрын
Joey Diamond if you like jojo and you're not Japanese then you're no better than this "moe weeaboo shit"
@RichterBelmont22357 жыл бұрын
Arai JOJO is fabulously manly, Moe weaboo shit is not. CHEW.
@AraiiarA7 жыл бұрын
Joey Diamond Oh but it is. JoJo is the best thing ever, but Moe shit is not far behind
@RichterBelmont22357 жыл бұрын
Arai No it's not. Just like Josuke has no dignity.
@dukepy69367 жыл бұрын
WHEN *HEAVENS* DIVIDE! holy shit, nice part 6 reference
@azealiabankrupt80487 жыл бұрын
I prefer Spin but ripple is cool too
@Bkkzn7 жыл бұрын
Who doesnt
@PrestonK_Productions3 жыл бұрын
When the original OC do not steal has a stand that's the same type as Star Platinum, is a hamon master, and a masted of the spin and the golden ratio.
@brandonteppelin63535 жыл бұрын
Hamon is superior to the Spin in every way. Period. As a martial artist, I can understand what Hamon is supposed to be. Hamon is the whole body generating power within a resonating chamber. The chamber is the center of the body, the dantian, or energy nexus. Chinese martial arts focus on this concept and developing whole body shock impacts. The anime/manga version is obviously ramped to an extreme and overdone level, but the idea is the same. The Spin is dependent on a motion that originates from a kind of "outward" expression, i.e. an easily disrupted motion. Hamon however originates from an internal process. Harder to disrupt. Further its pretty much shown to be capable of nearly anything. Heat? Check. Electric energy? Check. Hardening biological material? Check. Both are ultimately arcane, hard to learn techniques, but one is completely natural and inborn to humans. However...the Spin could ALSO annihilate the Pillar Men. By sniping them. Some spherical projectile launched at high enough speed and force would literally mist a Pillar Man's head. Then you could do the same to the rest of their body til they couldn't regenerate. It doesn't matter what it is, if it has a body that can be damaged and you do enough damage to it, it WILL die.
@eduardosoisso62062 жыл бұрын
Beta male
@MoeMoeJoeJoe4 жыл бұрын
The Spin: Deadly to Humans and Animals, along with being Useful for day to day things. Hamon: Healing, Fortune Telling, & Undead/Pillerman Killing.
@johnedwards51377 жыл бұрын
You forgot that gyro's balls are not a perfect sphere so it failed, also you forgot to explain how it can be used as a sort of vibration radar or vibration vision seeing how he can use a steel ball to project the human anatomy on a tray of water or the image behind a rock with smoke created by the steel ball. Also i think your are right, against the pillar it would be useless because not only can they learn it right away, they can also reshape their body into the golden rectangle from every aspect and could possibly use infinite rotation with their masteries, Kar's bones, Wammu's wind, and ACDC's blood circulation. Your right, spin is probably more useful than hamon technical wise but hamon is more powerful and more power focused, I mean zepali commented that jonothan had an enormous potential for hamon based on how he made life blussom from his own untrained hamon after zepali jabbed him in the diaphragm. This suggest that hamon's power differs from person to person while spin is just about learning the technique. Also i should mention that Jotaro's mother know's hamon (theory but well backed) if you look at holly from the manga, anime, and ova, she is clearly young but it is well known that she is up there in age, and her stand was vine type like joseph and jonothan, but she's using the lowest level use of hamon.
@aidan45295 жыл бұрын
Scientists: Perpetual Motion is impossible Gyro: hold my balls
@animalia55547 жыл бұрын
If Hamon lets you control the water in people's bodies couldn't you control their blood and give them a heart attack?
@neoramaredzone85447 жыл бұрын
animalia555 probably you could even make someone’s head explode if you fires all their water to their head
@thefungus36325 жыл бұрын
A sheer one?
@thisdraco47945 жыл бұрын
@@thefungus3632 *two pistols and a wink*
@sjsjdmjwjwjakp18844 жыл бұрын
Wo
@cultistmilk31584 жыл бұрын
I know this video is 3 years old but your explanation of the spin helped me write my book talk essay on part 7 so thank you
@AstronomicSheep7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the spin convenient. I don't remember part 7 that well, so I could be forgetting something. But don't you need an actual object to use the spin on in order to make it work? I mean sure, I guess you could always take off your shoe and use that as a spin weapon. But I think that versus someone that just needs to breath ten times in one second (Is that right?) leaves you with a time gap.
@chestbumphero7 жыл бұрын
GokuPilgrim for the golden ratio yes, other than that no since wrecking ball did the opposite in which I was used to distort the golden ratio.
@eertikrux6664 жыл бұрын
Johnny proved that spin is more versatile when he grated cheese, ate spaghetti and brushed teeth with his rotating nails
@theultimategman4077 жыл бұрын
kars can not survive the infinite spin. the infinite spin is a attack that more or less killed a character that would not have died in any other fashion (except gold experience requium). kars simply removing a piece of himself after he's been hit would in no way stop his cells from spinning out of existence.
@MetiNotTheBadGuy7 жыл бұрын
Except all of the cells don't all start spinning at once, they start gradually. Kars thinks faster then anyone, he perceives time in a slow motion almost, he feels his body begin to spin, he removes a piece of it him and that is no longer effect and a new Kars grows from that cell.
@theultimategman4077 жыл бұрын
Meti 'Not The Bad Guy' I suppose, but even then I'm not sure he has full body replication. because you see him cast off dozens of pieces himself and he never thought to do this when he was launched to space. and even then i am willing to bet that it still would work as it effected D4C which is essentially his soul.
@MetiNotTheBadGuy7 жыл бұрын
D4C doomed Valetine because it was also infected with the Infinite Spin, Kars abilities aren't stand/soul based, he could make a million of himself if he choose too, he was drunk with power and never thought to use his powers correctly against Joseph and that cause Araki wrote himself into a corner.
@theultimategman4077 жыл бұрын
Meti 'Not The Bad Guy' i am willing to yield to that argument. i still willing to believe the infinite could kill kars
@Coyotebriggs7 жыл бұрын
Geordin Thomas idk bout Kars but I do think the spin could fuck up zombies at the very least, a headshot with a steel ball could most likely shred it's brain.
@MALICEM125 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, "Heavens Divide" took me off guard and demanded most of my attention from that point on.
@genericusername92996 жыл бұрын
How strong could Jonathan get if he survived at the end of part 1
@ChampionGold4 жыл бұрын
do you think they could achieve super spin if Gyro gave Johnny a piggyback ride and they formed the golden ratio?
@ceidgi52916 жыл бұрын
0:45 - Paz?!?!
@seeshibo94514 жыл бұрын
So in general. Hamon is more powerful but The Spin is more versatile and deadly. Thanks I needed this for a project.
@matt42003 жыл бұрын
Gyro: breaks dimensions with spin Ripple is stronger in which case?
@Baken3843 жыл бұрын
True that now with Soft and Wet having some literal Cream erasure ability thanks to the Spin.. Hamon stands no chance
@eduardosoisso62062 жыл бұрын
True
@Poet4822 жыл бұрын
What an excellent video. A fine, red-pilled gentleman of class explaining in detail the nature of the video topic over relevant footage with music from Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker over it all. *Chef's Kiss* Perfect video.
@yareyaredaze25695 жыл бұрын
I may be super late but straitz used hamon and he is a vampire which killed himself so i think vampires and pillarmen can train and use hamon but they wont cuz it would kill them.
@rootkit19995 жыл бұрын
No, he stored it inside of his body
@stupiditybasics86113 жыл бұрын
hamon: life energy that can be used to heal and attack spin:.... balls
@takayasakaki44127 жыл бұрын
I thought that the stand abilities were just an extension of Hamon. So theoretically they should be able to hurt vampires and pillar men.
@ClubbingSealCub7 жыл бұрын
they're not
@MrJjking177 жыл бұрын
technically stands used to a form of hamon, stands were even refereed to as spirit hamon but akrai has sort of dropped the concept
@ClubbingSealCub7 жыл бұрын
MrJjking17 Stands have never been referred to as "spirit hamon".
@MrJjking177 жыл бұрын
the kanji for stand : スタンド (幽波紋)/ sutando (yūhamon) has a literal meaning of " ghostly ripple"
@ClubbingSealCub7 жыл бұрын
MrJjking17 Its name? Is that your argument? No character has ever commented on its connection to the ripple.
@Fat3803 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Hamon allows you to see into the future like what Tonpetty and possibly Joseph did
@lemmegogo70533 жыл бұрын
The pillar men from part 2 used the stone mask to turn themselves into vampire pillar men. Kars and Esidisi were able to most of kill their entire race expect for 2 children because they had the additional power. At least that’s how I see it
@nartimmt7 жыл бұрын
that mgs5 love deterrence.
@GoyBenius_09017 жыл бұрын
nartimmt But LD was from Peace Walker.
@e98852 жыл бұрын
2:26 "Everything that is alive us able to use Hamon" Never realized Speedwagon was actually a non living being.
@OWLIin696 жыл бұрын
Spin fucking awesome !!
@DJ_Anonym6 жыл бұрын
I love the MGS music in the bg. Nice collision of some of my favorite franchises.
@ShatteredGlass9165 жыл бұрын
Title??
@SuperKamiGaming7 жыл бұрын
Good vid dude
@uncledeath47957 жыл бұрын
teach me how to meme kami
@Espionage1205597 жыл бұрын
The Spin is physical energy, kinda, compared to Hamon which is spiritual energy. Like Special vs Physical attacks, I gauge?
@fishussugon32156 жыл бұрын
Spin is best cuz of fidget spinners
@edvardmolnar75275 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Spades-je2ug4 жыл бұрын
I like how around 5:01 Jonathan and Zeppeli are just beating up a crippled boi in the background
@torielandcheese10767 жыл бұрын
hamon is stronger, and jonathan could beat johnnys ass in an instant, BUT spin can be distanced whereas hamon seems to be more usable up close (most of the time) also spin seems to use more technique than ripple
@torielandcheese10767 жыл бұрын
yea but listen; firstly, how's johnny gonna stomp jonathan, johnnys like a third his height and also paraplegic; secondly, johnathan is super swole, kicks johnny like a goddamn football
@F_lippy7 жыл бұрын
joshua and cheese but johnny only has 10 shots since he has to spend time regrowing his nails, whereas with Jonathan he could use the ripple like joseph did by infusing it with projectiles but those have to be specific too. both can be used at a distance but rotation has more possible options than the ripple.
@cake68517 жыл бұрын
Johnny can walk
@robertmacdonald54967 жыл бұрын
joshua and cheese Are you a fucking idiot? Did you forget that Johnny can kill Jonathan from half a mile away? Tusk Act 4 would kill Jonathan in a blink of an eye. Jonathan loses to every protagonist from Part 3 and beyond, easily.
@torielandcheese10767 жыл бұрын
first off, listen, no need to get so rude. secondly, unless johnny knew he was gonna get in a confrontation beforehand, he's just likely gonna be like a stone's throw distance, and if i can remember correctly, johnny's nail bullets don't kill instantly, and johnathan seems to be able to really take hits, so unless johnathan has a "n-nani???" moment he could just charge him, they probably would both die or just johnathan while johnny gets critically injured
@pedrell_vanalcocero4 жыл бұрын
I was totally distracted from the explanation by this amazing mix of Love Deterrence
@M1RO3337 жыл бұрын
disliked for the random moe sorry i had to
@MetiNotTheBadGuy7 жыл бұрын
Well don't worry, your use of the word moe shows how little I value your opinion c:
@brosephnoonan2237 жыл бұрын
Disliked for the random, unironic use of moe in comment. sorry i had to
@rudys.artous54777 жыл бұрын
Meti 'Not The Bad Guy' needs more manly stuffs
@JoahTheThread5ive5 жыл бұрын
All three of you used it in a sentence. You know what I have to do.
@AhmedKhan3.142 жыл бұрын
Ripple: life energy Spin: Maths and Physics
@punpunchan7347 жыл бұрын
Golden rotation ruined jojo bring stands back
@N3R0WAIFU3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist:hamon infused steel ball
@Bkkzn7 жыл бұрын
Spin > Ripple end of story. Why even make a video on this.
@TempusKing7 жыл бұрын
Ripple > Spin. Ripple has more versatility, and if someone passes their hamon you become strong enough to challenge vampires in one on ones. Spins best benefit is that its used with Stands. Where Hamon's only use with stands was with a guy who literally didn't train his Hamon for years, and had a weak unchanging stand on top of it.
@Bkkzn7 жыл бұрын
TempusKing Yeah, good luck using hamon when i'm 10 feet away from you.
@TempusKing7 жыл бұрын
Speed Waifu Simple, I pull a chunk of my hair out. Throw needles of my hair at you, and use the rest to block any projectile attacks you have.
@Bkkzn7 жыл бұрын
TempusKing As the great Kenshiro once said "You're already dead"
@SandonBranderson7 жыл бұрын
+TempusKing *pulls out hair* Here we go- OW OW OW OW ow ow who fuck fuck ow Jesus ow
@Brutalyte6166 жыл бұрын
I'll take Hamon. Being able to heal broken bones and all manner of ailments just by breathing? I could run my local chiropractor out of business by myself, improve people's lives, and stay young and fit for a few more decades.
@funnyvalentine66705 жыл бұрын
You can heal broken bones with the Spin as well. Remember when Gyro accidently cured Johnny's Crippled legs?
@sn4ke164 жыл бұрын
if i had that kind of power i would breath all the time wait
@bastiisalive5 жыл бұрын
If Joseph continued practicing Hamon to a point he is still physically young because of it, and if the other JoJos dont have stands, I bet Jotaro vs Joseph in a fist fight is a matic win for Joseph. Lets face it, Jotaro is one tough dude. But this is Joseph who practice his Martial Art via Hamon long enough.. He gonna kick ass Might even defeat a mad hair teased Josuke
@8xottox82 жыл бұрын
The Tusk argument really is sort of like, imagine if we never had parts 1 & 2, and only saw Hamon through Hermit Purple and thought all old Joseph does is all Hamon. I really do wish we could some day see like a spinoff or something about the peaks of Hamon. Could just be a single character or something, nothing too big. You could even essentially write it off as a stand that requires you to breathe in a special way to produce power.
@PlanetZoidstar7 жыл бұрын
Do you think Hamon would work on a Pillar Man who hadn't used a Stone Mask? I don't think so since using the Stone Mask is what made Kars and Co able to use their various Modes, and made them so dangerous at the rate they now needed to consume living things that their own people tried to kill them. I imagine the Stone Mask also made them susceptible to Hamon like it does to humans that become Vampires/Zombies.
@MetiNotTheBadGuy7 жыл бұрын
The Pillar Men lived underground because all were weak too the sun. Even before the mask they had unheard of strength and abilities. Santana is an example of a maskless Pillar Man. The sun is harmful to there race as a whole and the mask was designed to help escape that fate. So yes, Maskless Pillar Men are weak to hamon.
@PlanetZoidstar7 жыл бұрын
Meti 'Not The Bad Guy' Fair point. Though apparently Pillar Men only turn to stone when hit by the sun, not dying like Vampires do.
@MetiNotTheBadGuy7 жыл бұрын
Except they say specifically that normal Pillar Dissolve when hit by the suns light. Also the point of fight the Pillar Men is to destroy there brains and the only way it to force sunlight into there skulls. So only Wahmu, ACDC and Kars are immune to not just dying when the sun hits them. Santana is a weird cause and doesn't make sense because he has no powers but turns to stone. So maybe we never saw his true potential.
@JT8fvhiut769yhouyhoiu5 жыл бұрын
well one spins the president forever and the other couldn't even kill what it was intended to
@oliverwirth427 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the surface of the sun is actually colder than the temperature that is a bit more than a few hundred kilometers around it