Metro-Plex MK II 100W - LONG DISCUSSION

[@andyc5729]

The best 43 minutes of 2023 so far..sounds killer.

[@jeffshirkey3085]

Well put!

[@nashvegas631]

Wow, covering Angus, Mal and Ed in one amp? Speechless.

[@mrnorbotron3308]

Mal? Who is Mal?

[@memusicguitar]

@@mrnorbotron3308 the guitar company and actor. Mal Gibson.

[@cmd_f5]

Man, there's something awesome about people this dedicated to amps and tone, it's like watching a master chef check and recheck a recipe and tweak until they nail that perfect blend/result. I've not always been a big fan of the Marshall sound, but I've grown to really appreciate it over the years. Great job. The MKII has that same top end and harmonic power the 68 Plexi has.

[@pfrisch6030]

George, All I can say is you nailed it. Everything you would ever want in a plexi, with the added bonus of 12301. Once you made the switch to channel 2, I could tell with the first chord. For those of us who have been chasing the tone, it's patently obvious. Congratulations! Versatile but very authentic. No small feat.

[@caryboudas4771]

Wow even with no bright cap still sounds very clear

[@arminh8428]

OMFG that is the holy grail! The best sounding Marshall Ive ever heard. Absolutely incredible..

[@leosun8469]

Absolutely incredible, George! Thank you for making this unreachable tone available to us “normal” people. EVH’s guitar tone IS the original reason that I became interested in playing guitar and VH 1 changed what type of music I was forever interested in. You are a genius and class act, all in one. You definitely not only replicated the 12380 tone perfectly , but also nailed the 12301 Marshall perfectly as well. EVH would be proud.

[@tfrost33elkhunter]

Wow! In my opinion this is the end all be all for me. It has literally everything I have wanted in a plexi! Absolutely incredible! George, you will go down in history as the authority on taking this design and circuit to the next level!

[@brentstewart59]

Killer stuff right there. Holy crap man this is phenomenal

[@willdenham]

There's something prophetic about the meeting of Eddie and his 12 series. The stars were aligned in that moment.

[@curtisrichards1903]

I really think you nailed the natural sound of your 68 in all it's spikey highs (in a good way) and rich harmonic glory. It really does have the biting cracking sizzle like sound and has a lot more natural chime like brightness then the MKI. The MKI is still a great amp for sure but this is as you put dialed in to a much finer degree. Great job George, you should be really proud. In a way you've created a time capsule of a wonderful amp that is exceeding rare and very expensive. "She will be mine, Oh yes! she will be mine" - Wayne

[@5150forevermore]

Man I really blew it not getting this amp 😮. Sold Out

[@georgemetropoulos5124]

No worries, they'll be back. We're a small company and overwhelmed with orders right now. But we're ramping up production.

[@transpermeance1535]

Buy George he's finally done it. A life's worth of striving right there; you must be incredibly proud and rightly so. Such commitment, determination and instinct is so rare. I see the toll it took on you but you offered it up and have now entered an entirely new realm.

[@ahhsgvr]

I preordered the 100 based on this video, got #9....not disappointed. I had to come back to this to figure out all the sound combos with the two separate channels. Great job George, this amp is a keeper........

[@georgemetropoulos5124]

Thank you! I'm glad you love it.

[@rcole3321]

My heart lives with the superbass setting.

[@jegauss]

Bravo! Just really great, George! As a "VH Guy" (and have dedicated some videos here on youtube about that amp and sound), I think you've nailed it! Congratulations...

[@metroampcom]

You're THE VH guy Jim! I've watched a few of your videos, fantastic! I'd love to hear you rip through one of these someday.

[@timmytVA]

He is so good at explaining these concepts.

[@poisedforduty]

The D'Angelico of amps....Great Work

[@DirtyBlues8]

Hope a mini head will be out someday : )

[@mattw4265]

awesome video man! i would love to see some videos of you actually building amps too! maybe sharing some of your tips and tricks.

[@phillamoore157]

What a magnificent, majestic amp. I’ve got an insane amount of respect for Metropoulos, to say the very least. And, at $3500, this is a steal, IMO. But, and this could be my speakers, but I’m not hearing VH here. When I think of the pinnacle VH tone, I think Fair Warning. That punchy, crips, percussive, just the right amount of gain…..tone. This sounds looser to me. It could be sitting in front of it, playing a basswood guitar with a Super Distortion this will accomplish that. That said, I’m completely sold on this amp. Simply owning one as the quintessential Marshall, would be a huge honor, in-and-of-itself. A huge congrats to Metropoulos for realizing this amp.

[@telecasterdisasteronestrin1909]

I just now right now started to play my Metro-Plex MKII and this amp is awesome -- no matter what genre -- the singing sustain and just pure rock flavor is astounding.. This amp pairs so well with my Metropoulos Super-Plex MKII -- George is the best -- I am so fortunate to use his builds -- these amps are so value based. Thanks George

[@willdenham]

Beautiful amp you've created here. That LP is the perfect match as it is the pinnacle of a burst going through the finest example of a plexi.

[@flockoglock]

Sweet! So happy to see this!

[@william7108]

I just had a salutation perfect timing

[@paullaughton6016]

Awesome! George this amp sounds fantastic. Your passion is inspiring.

[@william7108]

I had this amp I can put together a couple of Kick-Ass albums for starters I mean just ripping it to shreds the tone on this thing is unbelievable

[@carlton5046]

Great job George ! .. that LP is the perfect color you obsessed on that also I know you did ! lol..awesome creation George I’m sold ! Thank you !

[@TheTrondro]

It takes a genius engineer to recreate that sound / feel.. Goosebumbs.. An Incredible work by you George, Thank you, your'e making history with your hard work -

[@angusmcflynn]

Yes! Go George! I’m really liking your new Metro Plex II. Keep it going in this direction and developing amps with REAL rock tone! Thank you.

[@johngaynor531]

I have an original 12 series plexi too but I've played that amp... It's a super perfect specimen, cant get better. The Metro sounds amazing, and you can actually use it for gigging!

[@CountryBoyShane]

You should be given an honorary doctorate degree in electronics engineering for the development of the Mk II. It's almost like every era of Marshall plexi in one box - WOW!

[@stevestarr6395]

Fantastic sounding amp and actually had the pleasure of playing the 50 watt model!!

[@flinto2002]

Bloody Hell! That sounds ridiculous! Loads of gain, but CLARITY, just right where you want it!

[@HIWATTuser]

Thanks George. Just perfect, kind of like going to church (for someone like me). Kudos !!

[@SeanKerns]

Just found this video now, but so glad I did. These are both just phenomenal sounding amps.

[@75YBA]

You’ll sell out so fast. Congrats boss!

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

George you would be a BEAST in a HARD ROCK Band 💪 I would love to hear you and that amp in a band. I enjoy your lead chops, Riffs, and Attitude when playing these amps. 😊

[@AndyK.23]

Well done George, after long covid and all! So cool to also have THE 12301 in there, along with the classic '68 tones!

[@nicolasrivera5310]

OMG!!!! HEAVEN TONES

[@OperationEndGame]

For Superlead, I actually prefer 470 bright cap. It sounds just right for me.

[@dBoogieNights]

absolutely

[@steveinmidtown]

amazing sound...it's got that elusive "springy/spongeyness" that is best heard on the isolated "Eruption" tracks floating around. An interesting test of what Martin Smith contends would be to do a "master/slave" with 2 heads & hear the results...he did a thing about how he thinks this is what Ed did based on concert pics from Ed's early days. You most likely have seen this but it's pretty convincing & with the ability to have 2 identical heads, could be good.

[@tombehmlander7241]

Great job George, You deserve it!🙏🏻

[@ckarwosk]

Thank You!

[@nickforbus378]

sounds great!

[@hello3627]

Nice job. Everyone wants to hear an honest comparison of this vs mki vs 12000 series.

[@smellytele9629]

This is fantastic.

[@willdenham]

The Eddie stuff actually sounds good with the LP.

[@eddiejr540]

Nailed it 👍

[@joeydego2]

Glad to see you still doing your thing, George. All the best to you, the new amp sounds great!

[@ratiug61]

Put channel 2 in the synergy module

[@jamiegustkey2573]

7:33 Nigel from spinal tap… 🙂

[@kuhboom22]

This is my dream amp. I'll be placing an order for the 2025 run very soon.

[@LPMojoGL]

Love it. Want one!

[@bolerkins]

G L O R I O U S !!!!

[@mtbmadman011]

Oh hell yes!!!

[@tongusgrump2261]

My Mark Cameron Marshall can’t be beat my favorite instrument

[@billyvarga3738]

And this is the sound of me pulling out my credit card for preorder.

[@tpap6827]

Your journey coupled with intelligence is the reason I can now tell all the know it alls who have been effectively saying the Marshall SL ED played was modded to the beyond anything anyone could fathom. Apparently not. Thank you. And it is so close without being close to as loud

[@AllenGarberGuitarFun]

You keep pulling rabbits out of your hat! Incredible!

[@guismth]

Well damn, how do we get one??!!

[@the92project]

I’d love to know how the normal volume works, is it shared between the two channels? Can one channel be set cleanish while the other one dimed? Sorry for the questions but the website doesn’t say much

[@Curbludgeon]

Love this! Sounds just as good as can be imagined. Between this and Andy Wood's recent purchase of one of Eric Johnson's 69 Plexi's, I'm getting quite the itch to try one, finally. Speaking of Andy's plexi, do you think that this amp can get to those tones as well at EJ's preferred settings?

[@curtisrichards1903]

I will certainly try when I get mine in!

[@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio]

On my wish list....

[@RobertRogers-x8g]

Wow

[@danleal3303]

Sold out, when will you have more?

[@metroampcom]

On Black Friday we'll open up more ordering. November 24th.

[@andrewagostini4077]

Pete Thorne needs to demo this!

[@the92project]

I wonder what amp would have the least overlap (best complement) with my Bogner Helios , a DVL1 or this metroplex. Wonderful amps

[@metroampcom]

I played the Helios years ago at an amp show. Great amp! Plexi tone but more gain on tap and more low mid range to my ears. I would think the DVL-1 would be closer to the Helios and the Metro-Plex would be more raw, brighter plexi tone. That could be an incredible combination!

[@lukerobertson10]

I actually have a Helios from 2016 & DVL 1.. there fairly different while being in the same ball park . Both great amps ..Super keen on metro plex MK2 but one would have to go to afford the other .. the Helios has a grind to it that has seen off a wizard mc 2 and a Friedman modded reissue SLP . The EQ off is unbelievable with a very good boost If this is any help for some reason the bogner cuts through a mix better But the options on the DVL are exceptional I’d love to see a comparison with on the DVL 1 and metroplex MK2. Can’t go either way although there’s a 50 watt option on the MK2. 👍

[@okaytastic6691]

Man! Can you tell me what the dimensions are of the small box?

[@jloewenheim]

As always, great playing, great sounds, and happy to see you back at it. Fantastic amp! Not sure if you will share, but since you have discussed this in the forums often...Are you doing your Pre PI inline resistor or bootstrap master volumes here?

[@georgemetropoulos5124]

It's a new type of master volume I came up with. It keeps the frequency response the same at any level. Not too complicated, but very effective in this application. It's right before the PI.

[@curtisrichards1903]

Can you AB them with no hot plate and without the delay so we can really hear them apples to apples. Also does this amp have any of the level cutting that the superplex had on the tone controls or do we have full range? Also Is the 12380 gain control the same as just going through the upper left input on a four hole Marshall and then you can blend in the normal like if it was jumped and can normal be zero?

[@JimmyDevere]

What pickups are you using in the Gibson. Loved the tone. (Are using a treble bleed in the guitar?)

[@themadist2245]

You should get Pete Thorn to do a video on it. He's pretty good at the Van Halen thing. Great sounding amp.

[@robimiara7444]

Marshall goodness❤

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

🎉 Congratulations 🎉 You Cloned THE BROWN SOUND AMP. emulation is done by any means, CLONED is done part by part, value by vale untill the sound and response is there. AMAZING I would want a Metoeplex 50 over that plexi because it has more great tones and the 12301 spec. 🤠

[@odgeUK]

If only there were UK builders making amps like this, you know, in the country of origin of Marshall Amplifiers! It's mad. I'll never be able to afford the shipping and tax on this amp, even if I could afford to buy it in the first place.

[@metroampcom]

I'm sure we could figure something out.

[@mookytc]

Thinking the 50W shines as well when it comes to achieving these tones? Fine work with these creations.

[@willdenham]

Are there two seperate tone stacks in order to do the VH settings on channel 2 or are the seperate settings just done on the same circuit with a switch to a different set of caps?

[@metroampcom]

The tone stack is common to both channels. Switching to 12301 just makes the tone thicker, more saturated and dripping in harmonics.

[@willdenham]

@@metroampcom I'm more curious about how you got the 12301 on the same board, because both channels, I think share the same tone stack or circuit. I wanted to know because I am planning to build a 68' and want to have 67' bassman spec on the normal channel, like how, I think, you put 12301 specs on the normal channel. Or how you used to do a 66' channel on the Metroplex. I'm sorry my lack of technical expertise is maybe not allowing me to more artfully word the question.

[@willdenham]

Is the 68' Super Bass as awesome as it's sister?

[@william7108]

That's why my old Marshalls sounded so cool I'd be playing them and then I would fall asleep and they'd be running 4 hours an hours then I'd play it again and I go wow Musta got from a supernatural influx flowing from the universe but I guess I was melting the caps or making them sepphoris because the toones tonus where'd you come up with that Google girl anyway yeah beautiful sounds

[@StationHouseLiving]

Well Damn ! I’m 4 months too late !!!

[@the92project]

are the low and high input footswitchable via ABY pedal?

[@willdenham]

These days it's hard to imagine players had a couple or 4 full stacks behind them. I can't believe I played live with a cranked 100 watter. And the club let me.

[@lastscatteringsurface9950]

Man if you could make a 5w plexi-ish amp I'll buy it for $1000.

[@willdenham]

I can't afford this, therefore I'm planning a build for my capable tech.

[@willdenham]

Did Ed's amp have the 5,000 pf bright cap intact?

[@georgemetropoulos5124]

His did! But the gain was always on 10, so the bright cap value was irrelevant.

[@qua7771]

The old speakers are smoother, without that cardboard sound of the new Celestion G12M.

[@Mickclaw1]

Just preordered the 100 watt MK II today for 2025. Curious when switching over to 12301, is there a drop in voltage as well or just the circuitry has changed for lack of a better term. Really looking forward to this amp. Thanks for the great work.

[@metroampcom]

Thank you for your order! The voltage doesn't change when switching to 12301. During the design phase, I created a circuit that acted like a variac. But it took away some note attack and every time I turned it off it sounded and felt better, more like the real 12380. So, I left it out.

[@Mickclaw1]

@@metroampcom thank you, so would it be ok dropping the voltage on 12301, or would it be frowned upon?

[@24ZEPACDC]

Amazing! Will this amp get Hendrix and Frusciante cleans?

[@william7108]

Okay I just from your six-year-old video when you were testing the kt66 tubes and with the 4100 I believe okay so I'm skipping Through Time to this video

[@willdenham]

A 68' SLP minus bright cap is a Super Bass? Does that mean there isn't any filtering difference?

[@metroampcom]

The bright cap is one major difference in the circuit. But there are other cap values, as well Mostly for more low frequencies. Filtering is consistent for Superlead and Superbass, but varies by era.

[@willdenham]

​@@metroampcomThank you for taking the time for that info.

[@Jay-sy5yf]

Hey man how much did the '68 plexi cost?

[@willdenham]

If I'm attenuating my plexi down to bedroom volume, should that effect the quality of the signal when I roll back my guitar volume? Will I not be able to get the same sparkly cleans as shown in the video? It seems a little dull when I roll it back with the attenuation or when I go to IR's and headphones or monitors. I'm curious because my new plexi build is like that and I haven't had the opportunity to open it up in a band setting to check out how it cleans up with zero to light attenuation.

[@Thee.Instigator]

Is el Capistan in loop or front

[@georgemetropoulos5124]

In the loop

[@talpajam]

hi george, been a minute. what's the plate voltage on ur original '68 ? is there any rockstah dna in the new design ? sounds amazing gotta get one !

[@Kasper911band]

Tried to order from dangerous guitars, they said you were out of business! Can you explain how to buy, and how much?

[@metroampcom]

Only selling direct these while we get back on our feet. store.metropoulos.net/collections/amplifiers

[@michaeltownsend8734]

Just ordered a 50watt when do you expect to ship spring time maybe?

[@randalbehm5943]

Did you keep the 50k mid pot in?? Or did you like it better stock. Keeping the amp more “pure” to its stock form.

[@jpalberthoward9]

I bet you've also got a '69 Hemi Road Runner with the dual quads, the 4 speed, and a Dana 60 with some kind of insane gears out in the garage, don't you? That amp, and a 69 Road Runner both come from a time when giants walked the earth. Both of them scare today's people. Neither one is exactly what you'd call Karen Friendly in today's safety fanatic, calm down world.