Mew2king ANALYZES Pyra and Mythra

[@TheRealMew2king]

Hope you guys enjoy the content! I actually think I have a high chance of maining/secondarying the character, 2 swords i can switch between! Let me know what you think in the comments below about the character so far, and what their moves will be like. Some have pointed out that her Nova move might be a special move instead of Dsmash, and perhaps this special move gives her fire powerup as well? Also, just realized her "2nd Fsmash" that I said was frame 17 might actually just be her Dash Attack instead (was harder to tell cuz of 30fps, and I didn't consider that a dash attack would be that slow at first). Like/Subscribe (and click bell icon) if you enjoy the content, and check KZbin description at some point, since I also host a bi-monthly tourney series at smash.gg/fpsonline and I offer Smash coaching to help people improve at smash at metafy.gg/@mew2king Definitely gonna keep a very close eye on everything this character can do.

[@TheCrimsonWolf]

Hey Mew2King, really great analysis! Switching between Pyra and Mythra mid-combo sounds hype!! That Prominence skill seems way too good for a kill setup, where is the knockback? I'm going to try using that out of her dodge advantage, switch back and try some crazy stuff. I'm excited for what you'll be able to do too, cheers!

[@RellekEarth]

M2K, I really don't think there is a "fire power up" mechanic happening here. The first "fsmash" looks like she is sliding as she swings meaning its more likely a dash attack. Additionally, this attack ALSO has a fire hit effect on the opponents sooo why would she power up with fire if its already fire? Also, context for the xenoblade game itself: the characters VERY OFTEN hype each other up with lines like these acting as if they've never seen them before. It's the type of line that shouldn't be taken as a hint of a secret thing but rather just anime "explain the special move" type narration.

[@Pr0ject_Dusk]

Keep in mind that if the dtilt is actually that good, it's probably only those frames for Mythra since she's more speed oriented. Pyra's would be slower but stronger + different launch angle perhaps. I feel like this fighter is going to have alot to be memorized, like PT.

[@enricoasili6598]

Love the character almost as much as we love you Jason

[@weregoat529]

This type of vid is definitely your strength - keep up the good work dude!

[@tatrik218]

there’s a mechanic in xenoblade 2 that the more you do auto attacks the more your special attacks are going to be stronger. My guess is that if you do grabs, tilts, areals or jab your smash attacks and your specials are going to be stronger. keep up the good work

[@GensoBees]

Ooh, that would make a lot of sense. You can see Pyra's eyes light up after she nairs Mewtwo, so that could be the powerup.

[@pesky2119]

There's also a mechanic where if you cancel your auto at the right time with a special, the special will deal more damage, they could implement something like that as well

[@hezitation4868]

@@pesky2119 might be the reason why blazing end had the flash

[@nope-xe2lx]

@@pesky2119 a swordie with shoto cancels. oh god

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

@@pesky2119 That sounds sick :D

[@jamesbell1186]

13:18 lmao this part is a cutscene and M2K still tried to analyse it

[@loftwild4302]

I was pretty confused I’m wondering if he was joking.

[@wombatpandaa9774]

Ikr it's pretty clearly rendered and not part of the game. It probably is similar-ish to actual game stuff though

[@slashsight6577]

Yeah lmao. I think Mythra, due to her being more combo based, just has that ability. And yeah, like he said its probably similar to Bayo's Bat-within. It visibly slows them, allowing for easier punishes

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

I mean the cutscene was there to explain what her moves do, it's hard to think that sakurai wouldnt try to make the cutscene mirror how it works in actual gameplay.

[@OscarGeronimo]

You can't get the genius if you can't deal with the madness I guess XD.

[@sansundertalefrommegalovania]

Sakurai: so I'm gonna explain their moveset M2K: but I already paused the video, wait, there's more?

[@Creepo_J]

When I first saw mythra's down-tilt into up-air I was spooped

[@StriderZessei]

A DLC sword character whose down tilt isn't a sliding kick?! WHAAAAAT

[@jacaerys4]

@@StriderZessei Hero, Terry, Byleth, and Steve: 👁👄👁

[@jakesawaguchi4928]

@@jacaerys4 I'll let it slide, Terry's legs are basically swords

[@icy700]

it looked like it did 5% ngl it looked so weak

[@Void.W.A.]

@@icy700 well you'll never know until sakurai goes over the character in more detail, also imo it looked like it did 12 or 16 percent

[@bodyofwater99]

Pyra isn’t holding her sword when she uses the side-b so you probably can’t follow up

[@ZookHaunts]

I think it’s like when olimar has no pikmin

[@Technoblast649]

@@ZookHaunts But Olimar actually has attacks that don't use Pikmin. We don't know if Pyra has attacks that don't use a sword.

[@claire6452]

You can maybe get a grab.

[@lukeewers7971]

I think that the sword automatically teleports to you after the move's over. So what @Claire said you can follow it up with a grab, throw them and then the sword's back to you.

[@safehouse432]

I was thinking its like a sideways version of ike recovery that she throws the sword then auto jumps to it.

[@MagicMaster667]

As someone with 600+ hours in Xenoblade 2... Pyra's announcement pleased me greatly. :-]

[@MagicMaster667]

But let it be known, that Zeke and Pandoria are the absolute best characters in that game.

[@jakesawaguchi4928]

@@MagicMaster667 Zeke best girl, no objections

[@Maboojen9672]

I agree completely

[@allingbrodniak8819]

@@jakesawaguchi4928 May I have a moment to talk about, TURTERS

[@MagicMaster667]

@@allingbrodniak8819 _Handling a man's turtle!_

[@XanderW7381]

Lightning buster is definitely a shield breaker because it’s effect is ignoring guard in the game

[@Harnekampf]

Oh lol, it could also maybe ignore counters

[@HulluMyJullu]

ray of punishment has bonus damage to toppled enemies, photon edge annuls guards, and lightning buster is significantly stronger at 30% hp or less

[@MFernando_252]

I have all the characters I wanted which are Steve, Pyra, Mythra, And Sans. Im living on Cloud 9, Its a Dream come true.

[@SGalaxyify]

I haven’t quite gotten all my characters but with Pyra/Mythra I have a new main and I can just coast now and enjoy all the new characters for the game unless by some ungodly chance they add Sora :)

[@garenthal9638]

@@SGalaxyify any xenoblade 2 was so high on my wants that I was high when watching and thought it wasn’t real and I started screaming. But yeah, any character added is just Gravy now. I guess I’d like tails or chief but this was it

[@ajk_16]

Thank you for sharing Marc Fernando!

[@Eis7]

@@garenthal9638 same I started yelling

[@garenthal9638]

@@ClimbingKeen play their game and you’ll get it. They are such good characters

[@DivineRainor]

I think Flame Nova is her nuetral B, with lightning buster being mythras nuetral.

[@TheCleanProphet]

Here’s the thing though, if those are their neutral Bs and Mythra’s Foresight is like a counter (so most likely a down B), how will they swap? I was thinking a neutral B or down B for swap but it seems like they have other specials that fit those slots too. EDIT: Maybe Foresight isn’t actually a counter but just a passive buff she gets for her defensive options as M2K stated since nothing in the video really shows it being used as a conventional counter. I think he was mistaken a bit bc he was assuming parts of the Foresight cinematic were how it actually plays out in-game (like charging it). This means down B could still be open for the switch mechanic.

[@skiddy3715]

Depends on what the switch is. Either down b or neutral b. Could go either way

[@andrewq51]

If the character switch is their neutral B, then will Kirby transform into an anime girl?

[@sullivanish]

Kirby just switches into Rex lol

[@DivineRainor]

@@TheCleanProphet It looks life foresight works like bats within, so its just on rolls and maybe air dodge, it might have a cooldown attached but who knows, I deffo dont think foresight will have its own button

[@Sunray625]

Hopefully we get torna battle theme as well

[@lordnono1714]

Yeah and Bringer of chaos : O

[@raymondkim6243]

YES WE NEED THAT

[@macenanoro826]

We require the *jazz*

[@shulkres1590]

... as well as beautiful rearrangements

[@ryanepps2183]

We got incoming and Counterattack so I'm happy

[@Elegies22]

I love how he was analysing part of the cgi cutscenes for foresight. It's most likely just a good roll with invincibility like Bayonetta

[@bodgmasterxionobst3r983]

Roll

[@TheZirkwerks]

I'm almost positive the "underhanded fsmash" is actually dash attack.

[@davidarruda8400]

Yes

[@davidolinger3948]

Or a forward tilt

[@ShermTank7272]

Not sure... there was that little glint that happens with smash attacks, also there weren’t any dust clouds that everyone kicks up with their initial dash. So I think M2K is right that she has two fsmashes

[@benjibirner5927]

Could be a Roy-like jab

[@davidolinger3948]

Lol I love how hyped everyone gets analysing new smash characters

[@darkbladeseth3427]

13:18 ...did he really just analyze the rendered cinematic thinking it was actual gameplay of foresight lol

[@rektyrektingson4668]

lol m2k

[@Kradrice]

lol m2k

[@yoannbordin49]

I feel like pyra is gonna be the killer and mythra is gonna be like squirtle just here for comboing

[@Yokai_Yuri]

That is exactly how is gonna b. Mythra F-smash power is laughable so she doen't hit too hard but she is faat ans can combo easily. As for Pyra, all her smashes hit hard and she is still fast enough to defend herself

[@it_ghost9528]

I fell like she would be A tier or B tier

[@sullivanish]

That's so ironic how they show mythra kill everyone in the trailer when pyra got stuck in front of like links bomb lol

[@Azurald55]

@@sullivanish even in the game Mythra is much more powerful than Pyra.

[@goatles9423]

Looks like it, and it pulls from their skills in Xenoblade 2. Pyra's passive abilities are mainly direct damage increases, while Mythra's decrease cooldowns and increase accuracy and critical hit rate

[@basilechabanatpujol492]

Isn't the flame nova more a special? When she is charging it it doesn't look like a smash attack to me it's more like a charging special but I might be wrong

[@mountchoco8174]

Might be down smash designed to look like flame nova. Kinda like shulk f smash is slit edge

[@RellekEarth]

Pretty sure it is Pyra's counterpart to Lightning Buster. Hold the charge and let er rip.

[@TheCleanProphet]

Based on the logic of Mythra’s named specials all being B moves in the trailer, Flame Nova is probably a B move too. I say it’s probably a neutral B or down B, depending on whether or not they have nB or dB as her swap.

[@bam762]

its for sure a special they legit show her dsmash later in the video lol

[@Creepo_J]

It is most likely neutral special for sure Mythra does something similar I don't think they would have a meter for that one move

[@Zapdos_777]

Thanos: I am inevitable M2king analyzing directs: I am more

[@perriwinkleiii5361]

During the Direct I was immediately shocked at how fast Mythra hit the swap -> d-tilt -> u-air

[@mylesobrien7477]

You can swap combo and it has invincibility oh boy

[@davidarruda8400]

Looks like there will be a bunch of mythra->pyra kill combo

[@perriwinkleiii5361]

@@davidarruda8400 my thinking exactly

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

I am thinking at cancel boost mechanic in xc2 will make it in smash.

[@perriwinkleiii5361]

@@showmeyourmoves8551 that sounds so sick. I would love that

[@drunkengibberish1143]

XBC2 has a mechanic where you can cancel auto-attacks with special moves. The stronger the auto-attack the stronger the special attack When cancelled. My guess is that fire is gained by hitting a normal attack.

[@whitedonut5920]

What if you can cancel tilt attacks into specials like ryu and Ken

[@rondoudoushiney3868]

You can also cancel a special move with another special move or by switching to another blade...

[@PenguinTr4sh]

Every time he says “Meethra” I literally die

[@nepnep615]

it's actually meephra that he says

[@ryanepps2183]

Myth- ra

[@trevordollinger6569]

If only that were true you'd have stopped your bitchin by now

[@MigiShort]

Who cares bruh, you understand him don’t you?

[@YounesLayachi]

You're all wrong this character is named hikari

[@finalxiiisora7270]

M2K really analyzed the cutscene lol

[@gemineyeoftaurus6925]

Lightning buster seems like the Roy / Ike B move you can charge for full effect or release early.

[@Julian-dx5wp]

I think more like hero's side b but same idea

[@evergreen8600]

Just based off that one interaction in the trailer it’s probably safe to say that Mythra is gonna be more combo oriented/mutli hits and Pyra is gonna be the heavy hitter/single hits Also I feel like her foresight is going to be neutral B and switch will be down B Makes more sense for when Kirby steals their powers

[@ascon5634]

They don't base kits off what makes sense for kirby so this while it might be true doesnt have to be true

[@snoozless987]

@@ascon5634 imagine kirby's neutral b is just changing hair lmao

[@jaydenortiz1501]

Nah, Mythra neutral b was that blade slash where she holds it in the air for a bit. Down special is probably what activates the transformation, and foresight is absolutely a quick dodge thing like with Bayonetta

[@davidarruda8400]

@@jaydenortiz1501 Yes, I think mythra just has a broken roll

[@davidarruda8400]

I hope mythra isn't significantly better than pyra, like Xenoblade 2

[@darthdistortion1934]

I think you have to compare Pyra's n-air to Shulk's nair instead, looks closer to it design wise

[@DiableJambe_rt]

I can see them using the affinity mechanic from xb2 (when prya/mythra fight with Rex throughout the battle together they get buffs as the affinity like level goes up) maybe when they're percentage is high the moves will get stronger

[@Shanderson716]

It’s funny you mention that! I’m not sure how it’ll apply to their regular move set, but for the final smashes when Rex appears, the golden tether for Max affinity shows up while Pyra and Mythra do their regular battle pose from XC2.

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

Hopefully not. Having different moves when you are losing is confusing af and that was not how affinity works.

[@andrevanderlinden8722]

The percentage rule doesnt make sense, they prob get stronger when she hits more attacks

[@j0hnnybrav01]

It’s pretty obvious that Pyra won’t be combo heavy. She will be the stock ended with knock back. My Thea will be combo heavy and fast. I’m all about this character can’t wait to play her.

[@rainer9931]

Your Thea seems to be the more fun of the two, Pyra just seems so basic

[@343Films]

@@rainer9931 His Thea is definitely my favorite character!

[@rhettmitchell]

My Thea

[@infinitethejackal8718]

He was saying Mythra not my Thea guys.

[@TheSLATEcleaner]

What I think might happen is the end lag of transforming overrides landing lag, so timed you can act out of it immediately. Mythra seems to be in a different animation than her standard aerial falling animation before the down tilt. Maybe a character specific tech?

[@amycamilo3596]

We all know mkleo is gunna find a way to make this character broken, no matter the frame data.

[@mr.rad-guy3767]

Mkleo makes every character look broken lol

[@-8h-]

He picks up every character and puts a bad stigma behind them. The dudes amazing, but I hope he sticks with what he currently plays.

[@morcatna4767]

@@-8h- I want him to drop Byleth lol so when I play Byleth my friends won't get mad. He is a damn good player though.

[@-8h-]

@@morcatna4767 right? No shade on him. He and Tweek are my favourite players to watch.. but damn do I not want him playing anyone but joker or something of the like.

[@Shnozzu]

I think the part he thinks is a charge counter was part of a cut scene 13:29 and was just an intro to the passive roll side dodge batwithin type move. Also I think the spin move in the beginning with ours is actually either a charged Neutral B and the boomerang is the UN charged Neutral B i have a feeling the boomerang spin part is going to be a second press of the uncharged neutral b were you can stop it mid travel to make it to the spin. The charging smash attacks with fire I have a feeling it's going to be passive specific to Pyra since she doesn't have the bat within passive that when she takes damage she will build up a charged smash attack. I think pyra is going to be sold as the tankier slower form where the other form is going to be sold as the lighter more agile form. The trade off being less knock back more heavy moves as pyra and more dmg taken lighter easier to kill but faster more agile for the other form sorry don't know the name of other blonde girl form. ....And to wrap up this comment can we please talk about how thottomus Pyra is that butt doe!

[@Nekotaku_TV]

13:30 This is a CGI cutscene though. 14:35 Not teleport, transformation. Avoiding attacks with the switch looks faster than PKMN Trainer but I didn't check. But it sure is useful since the other options you have to be on ground, have lag or move out of the way. With this you're where you were and can attack from that point.

[@Creepo_J]

So the footage where it showed Pyra d-air was slowed down for the effects of the trailer So it may be faster You can tell because of the speed of which she is falling and the background I may be wrong, it could just be camera effects

[@Kishotto]

Glad I wasn’t the only one that caught that.

[@AlfredKamon]

I was waiting for this. Thanks for your service, M2K!

[@samoyed7586]

I believe that there are two versions of the character: Pyra is the slow heavy hitter while Mythra is the quick but weak character. It will be pretty much like Zelda from Brawl, where you can change from Zelda to Sheik. So this character will rely heavily on mix up, much like Pokemon Trainer. Pyra's flame attacks and Mythra's projectiles could be related to either a charge attack or pretty much like how hard you press the special button, like the Ryu, Ken and Terry. Either that or its a comeback mechanic. The higher you are in percentage, the more damage you dish out. Blazing End looks like it will spin upon impact and not via activation, much like PK fire where it will set off a chain reaction when the projectile strikes the opponent. Prominence Revolt and Chroma Dust: Again, could be a charge Up-B or a comeback mechanic, very similar to Terry's Raising Tackle, where the longer your hold B, the stronger and further the move goes. Pyra's recovery looks like she will just automatically go downward like Ike's recover, while Mythra would just cause her to float downward. You can see a bit of her falling animation after the move.

[@RellekEarth]

1:00 whaaat? That's clearly a dash attack.

[@StriderZessei]

F-tilt.

[@RellekEarth]

@@StriderZessei nope. Mythra uses ftilt later in the vid.

[@DementedDoritoOfdoom]

@@RellekEarth they most likely have a different moveset

[@gaymer2574]

She didn't dash though

[@Liezuli]

@@DementedDoritoOfdoom No, they have the same animations for all their normals. Mythra's are just faster.

[@KaguraHibachi]

I'll give this character a chance, I don't know her at all, but she looks cool

[@garenthal9638]

Her game is on the switch, my fav rpg everrrr

[@KaguraHibachi]

@@garenthal9638 Her game? Made me think it was Rex's

[@garenthal9638]

@@KaguraHibachi they are tied together. Over simplification but it’s kinda like who is the star of Pokémon, Rex is ash and she is Pikachu.

[@ShallBePurified]

@@garenthal9638 That reminds me of this one fan comic of Addam being Ash and Mythra being Pikachu. It's great.

[@GoBucs0221]

Hehe HahaHAHaHA lol this is my dream character

[@DekuScrub_]

honestly mew2king is legendary for being able to pick up so much frame data from a single trailer.

[@ethanadams8109]

13:14 m2k analyzing the frame data of a cinematic lmao

[@MightyGazelle1]

I love these videos, thank you! I'm very excited to play these two characters, absolutely loved xenoblade chronicles 2

[@nkirmath9573]

Weird thought, maybe when you use the transform you can buffer an attack if you land out of the transform

[@Sol-mx6nk]

You were analysing her move during a cinematic which is not at all representative of her in game frame data. 13:16

[@RellekEarth]

Not only that but Foresight is a passive ability in xenoblade, not an attack that is used in battle. Itll just mean her dodges are bettee while in mythras form

[@electroniccritic9412]

Yeah I still have no idea how he didnt notice that

[@drykux9111]

@@RellekEarth in torna is an ability

[@RellekEarth]

@@drykux9111 mythra is with Rex in this, so it would take from that pool of skills right? Also at the end it says "smaah bros x xenoblade 2" not "torna"

[@DufauxSmash]

@@RellekEarth Torna is xc2 but yeah

[@StargazerKite]

A few things I've noticed watching this trailer like a million times lmao. (Take it with a grain of salt) They both seem to share the same attack animations for stuff like Aerials, Tilts, Smashes but they have different attack properties. I think the only move they didn't really show was Jab. Pyra seems to be slower and have more startup but be much stronger, Mythra seems to have much more speed and combo potential but overall weaker damage and knockback wise. What seems to be interesting is that they appear to have unique specials depending on the form you use. Pyra B: Flame Nova (could be ok or bad depending if you have to fully charge it) Up B: Prominence Revolt (Like cloud climbhazard maybe?) Side B: Blazing End Mythra B: Lightning Buster (Same gimmick as Nova?) Up B: Ray of Punishment/Chroma Dust (version could change depending on hold/tap) Side B: Photon Edge (looks huge but probably crap against shield) Mythra in particular seems to have a unique roll similar to Bayo's bat within. (They could both have it but if they do they didn't show it for Pyra) Either way though it looks insane, upon contact it slows the attacker quite a lot similar to a parry. She's able to both punish Terry and jump away from Wolf d-smash. I don't think you have to charge it, I think it's just a unique gimmick for the character lol. I could be wrong come March but either way they look super fun to play.

[@anonymoussong9452]

I believe you are very much on the dot, here. I surmised that down b will be the transformation. Depending on the invincibility frames, this could also be good for mythra combos. Down tilt is already insane, but let's not forget her grabs. If she is indeed weaker, then it means her grabs won't have as much damage or knock back, meaning any skilled played timing transformations could easily grab and proceed to combo right after, once the opponent misses their attack. Also, her lightning buster may act similarly to Marth's Shield Breaker. In the game, it ignored guard, so maybe it has fewer slashes depending on how much you charge it up, and at full charge, it can break shields. If so, it's gonna make Mythra very dangerous. Photon Edge, feels like itl be a one direction only version of Sephiroth's Octogon Slash, and Chroma Dust looks incredible for edgeguarding. There's also the factor that Pyra's Revolt Move may be a good out if shield option, and can do some good kill confirms at higher percents. Also, the question if burning end will be good for ledge as well, if that vertical spin activates regardless of if you hit it not. My guess is that it can but instead, you activate it by pressing side b again to make it spin in that stationary position. I believe that's that most plausible case, here, and it would explain why that shine came up just before it hit captain falcon. If I'm fright, then Blazing End may be Extremely good, cause you can play it safe, or throw the blade out there, and go for high risk, high reward. Everything else seems exactly as you've said it. The only questions is if Pyra also has access to foresight, and what will the fire addition do for her.

[@StargazerKite]

Yup that pretty much sums up everything. Another thing about Blazing End is how Pyra is still able to move after initiating the move. I'm not sure if you'll be able to follow up after catching the sword but if the move works how you described, then she could have a really safe and strong ledge trap tool. If it hits, you either follow up or set up for an edgeguard. (Unless it just kills lol) If it whiffs, you can just back off. Idk if the sword automatically flies back after or you have to go to it yourself but I'm assuming it's just a much more risky but rewarding boomerang like you said since she probably won't be able to attack until the sword comes back. I feel like the "flame" thing that Pyra has is probably going to be just something she has on her attacks just to emphasize their stronger power (kinda like how Roy has fire properties on some moves). I don't feel like this will be any sort of meter thing, it'll just be something she has over Mythra. Also I forgot to mention, I don't know how different their frame data is in terms of end/landing lag, but Mythra had enough time after using a down air on byleth to grab her. I don't think it was true but even if it wasn't, a lot of her moves seem to have much better frame data with the insane one being down tilt which nets her an up air in the trailer. As for her throws, they only show back throw unfortunately so we'll have to see if she has a good combo throw in March. In general I feel like they're going to be pretty standard sword characters but their specials and the swapping mechanic is what will make them unique since they'll both have different playstyles.

[@anonymoussong9452]

@@StargazerKite I concur. One thing that I've noticed Sakurai doing as of late, is making many of the female representatives in smash relatively strong in smash ultimate's case. Pyra and Mythra seem to be on a similar page, but the have enough unique things that make them different from your standard Swordfighter. This in my opinion is a turn in the right direction, as I find the incentive for more female reps along with the fact that Samurai just dun give a flying squirrel alot more enjoyable. Now I'll be fair, I tire of all the lucina's, and at times, the peach's and daisy's, but the whole course Sakurai is taking pleases me. So far, Pyra, and Mythra may turn out to be my female mains, with my male mains being a toss up between Joker, Wolf, and believe it or not, Mii Swordfighter. Plus, while I would have preferred Shantae, another Swordfighter is ok. I find it funny that people complain about such things when they were the ones who started it whent they wanted more Swordfighters back when Melee started. All in all, Pyra and Mythra is a Solid inclusion. I feel like one of the next ones will be pokemon though, cause now that pokemon Sword and Shield is out, they have to. The question is, which starter.

[@exetone]

I assume the weaker faster "smash attack" is a tilt. Like every other fighter

[@RellekEarth]

I would say its a dash attack

[@knightro9235]

Could be like Little Mac where if you tilt the stick up while f-smashing you’ll get a different move.

[@RellekEarth]

@@knightro9235 but with mac's they all start with the same animation, also the glint to indicate the start of a smash happens as well with mac. There is no glint here

[@knightro9235]

@@RellekEarth Ah. Didn’t even think of that.

[@jackrocks8350]

The thing that you thought was mythra's nair was her dair, it only hits below her and is abt the same as pyra's

[@chiborg13]

I was thinking the same thing

[@QualityInternetTrash]

And before that, he said that what appears to be Mythra’s dash attack was an f-tilt

[@DivineRainor]

Starts video "Meeeeeethra" Great stuff M2K but ahhhhhhhh

[@SnessFresh]

was gonna comment the same thing lmao

[@MigiShort]

You understand him don’t you? Who cares lol

[@SnessFresh]

@@MigiShort What if someone kept saying your name wrong? Wouldnt that bug you?

[@DivineRainor]

@@MigiShort As someone with a weird name, someone getting it wrong even after it is said right multiple times in the trailer is just annoying to me, like when that happens to me IRL it bothers me because the person has been told how its said and now theyre saying it differently because ???

[@Yokai_Yuri]

Get a grip. No one cares. The video is about frame data, not name pronunciation.

[@smashpow]

Their costumes have kil la kil vibes

[@garenthal9638]

Their costumes are basically twice as covering as they are in xenoblade 2, only problem is most think these new ones are hotter lol

[@ryanepps2183]

@@garenthal9638 well they aren't exactly new. Pyra got a skintight covering above her leggings to censor her more. Mythra's design came from the spirit and then was added to Torna and main game 2 as a core chip costume

[@splatbuizl]

in xenoblade 2, pyra does more damage, while mythra has a higher critical hit rate. this could translate into smash with pyra having the higher damage output, and mythra having the higher knockback, meaning you can switch between them to build up damage as pyra, and go for kills as mythra

[@iam_______6399]

Mythra seems like just a much faster version

[@cikembra2389]

Pyra had better special damage but 'slower', while mythra had low special damage but was 'faster' (crit recharge+evasion) so that's how I think it's gonna translate in smash

[@mappyishot8110]

Nah Mythra looks like the combo kit character Pyra will have more kill power since her attacks look slower and stronger

[@jakesawaguchi4928]

@@mappyishot8110 I agree 100%, but then I'm scared that Pyra can combo just fine, and that Mythra can kill just fine

[@Wizard_Lizard_]

@@jakesawaguchi4928 If Pyra couldn't combo and if Mythra couldn't kill, there'd be a problem. You don't want to run into a situation where Pyra can't catch her opponent at kill percent, so you need Mythra to keep up with them. But then Mythra can't kill so you have to stay as Pyra. Also, base kill power isn't always enough. Kill confirms are far more important than raw kill power, and imo Pyra should have them if she's supposed to be the one dealing the final blow.

[@andu8782]

i think gravity might still be in effect while switching characters that would explain the instant landing into down tilt

[@PewPew_McPewster]

"I just studied this video of Pyra and Mythra 20 times." Same dude. Same.

[@Azier18]

😏👌🏿

[@Nolava0why7Because0yes]

Oh boy

[@lukelorianTRON]

so, i think that first 'forward smash' you mentioned is actually her dash attack

[@rickrogued9875]

this character looks so awesome, anyone who says theres too many swordfighters are crazy pyra will be the 15th swordfighter all up... OUT OF 80 FIGHTERS HOW IS THAT TOO MANY

[@antimatterstudios8395]

Those people are genuinely stupid and are trying to find excuses to be crybabies

[@edibleasbestos9467]

I think the move at 7:51 is actually her up Air. It just makes sense to me since it sends up

[@jpegwarrior5431]

My guess is that Flame Nova and Lightning Buster are both chargeable neutral specials, and that Foresight is just kind of a Bat Within-type mechanic on Mythra's rolls, and that the charging thing was just for that part of the cinematic.

[@wesome0756]

I think the invitation was for a different type of SMASH

[@bebbothegreat]

The first move after dair is clearly a dash attack, not a "weak fsmash"

[@gabrieldiaz9147]

If anyone’s wondering the song playing in the background is Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Torna

[@Zero1Zero1]

There is an affinity mechanic in the main game where over time as Rex and Mythra/Pyra fight, their bond gets stronger and it unlocks certain buffs. I'm not sure if something like that would be implemented in Smash but if so, that could be responsible for powered up moves

[@nicholascarela6384]

I will main this character haven’t been this hype for a DLC since Terry

[@buelerus9970]

1:12 that has to be a Dash Attack because she moves during the animation 1:48 Powered up with Fire doesnt mean that it can be powered up with fire only if you activate it. That can be a constant feature, like Roy 2:37 Flame Nova can be a Neutral B because they showed it in combination with the other Pyra specials 13:27 This is a cinematic, so this can be just an animation for the Trailer

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

The thing about analyses like these is while informative it kinda takes the magic out of the references and the reference to the actual characters. Like I’m more into the animations, the references, the respect and accuracy to the source material, but to each their own

[@Nutch.]

It looked like mythra’s fs mash hits behind her too- the smash ball appeared to be hit by it (21:25)

[@NrgSpoon]

I almost feel like the swapping happens with spot dodges and air dodges, rather than being a special move.

[@KirbCakesEvie]

Flame nova might be her neutral b, as well as the first "forward smash" where it was underhanded is possibly her forward tilt

[@rhettmitchell]

My dream characters ever since melee and brawl have been coming true one by one. Rosalina in smash 4, and now Byleth and Pyra and Mythra with the Ultimate DLC. Now we just need another Zelda or Sonic rep or Dixie Kong

[@philippecoppieters4742]

8:30 I'm pretty sure that this is a dair.

[@luansomething380]

Amazing one m2k! When I saw her first forward hit i thought it was her f tilt and not an "uncharged f smash". It would be a cool mechanic if she charges fire to change some moves around.

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

i just hope the definitive edition arrangement of you will know our names is added

[@Checkmarkz]

I am glad M2K appreciates Bomberman 64, such an underrated classic, and such fun multiplayer.

[@krook5158]

I think the first 'forward smash' is a dash attack. The flame nova is a probably neutral Special and the 2nd overhead attack is the forward smash. Not sure how the charge mechanic works, but the mechanic in the original game is apparently that your auto attacks charge your specials/smashes.

[@rexilerlight]

Wait WhAt They just dropped in nintendo direct!!? Dang, I missed it

[@rk-tc2fu]

I know right, I knew about it and still missed it. And literally everything I wanted was in it, including the characters I wanted for Smash 😭

[@ONIGIRIKINGU]

Nice Skadi pfp

[@valkoln8436]

I would’ve missed it if Omni hadn’t mentioned it in his video the day before the direct.

[@rollysgaming6575]

I missed it by falling asleep. I was near the hour that Nintendo Direct was gonna to start then boom I went to sleep

[@nintendoflow2409]

Awesome content man. Can't wait for this character

[@r0yals1n37]

foresight on mythra is probably a passive ability. basically bayo's bat within, gives rolls/spotdodges/airdodges less lag and less startup. the little animation she does is probably just for the trailer, as indicated by the model style.

[@barcster2003]

I think it might be like a dodge parry because it does lock the opponent into their animation.

[@Frog276]

In x2 there is a meter system where if you maintain a strong bond mid battle with pyra, you can use a lv1 -5 special move. Its kind of like a fighting game meter but charges through you standing close to pyra. Maybe thats how her fire is going to work

[@Nobody-yj8yq]

Yeah but Rex doesnt exist... so that wouldn't work

[@mythicalmew6054]

Your level 1-3 specials can be charged without the Affinity Bond and are actually charged through using arts, and your level 4 special requires a Max Affinity Bond at all times to charge and keep charged, but you're right that you have to have an Affinity Bond to use specials with Blades, if the Blade is too far away you can't use a special.

[@Frog276]

@@Nobody-yj8yq im just thinking thats what they might derive it from. They could easily have just said “f it, add meter again”

[@skd7851]

Hearing you talk about smash is always extremely interesting, thank you

[@smashmonkey6304]

I think the Smash attack that was frame 17 was actually a running attack. You can tell if you see her follow through.

[@generalbutterscotch4887]

I'm just going to point out that 8:22 looks very much like a Dash Attack rather than a Tilt. Not only is that WAY too much lag to be a Tilt for anyone other than Ganondorf, but you can also see the telltale dust cloud behind her feet. Other than that, great analysis M2K!

[@Native2Earth]

My guess is both characters have a power up method like min mins grab and it affects every special creating two versions of all specials and that neutral special is the swap out.

[@myboy_]

Its so sick how fast they can swap

[@gamerboidaoneguy7693]

Ikr

[@myboy_]

@@gamerboidaoneguy7693 like imagine if melee shiek could f tilt > transform > twinkle toes

[@gamerboidaoneguy7693]

@@myboy_ i hope they allow us to switch mid combo like down tilt mythra then quick switch to pyra to kill with up air :0

[@myboy_]

@@gamerboidaoneguy7693 18:42 gives me hope

[@dresean3725]

@@gamerboidaoneguy7693 That would be cool af, but holy does that sound busted unless it kills at like 140% at the earliest

[@MKsomething_]

One of her 2 downsmashes feels more like a grounded up-b or down-b but seeing as you later addressed a different up-b it might just indeed be a smash attack.

[@darkspinewarrior5826]

For those who think that the moves that she uses at 2:43 and 17:45 are the same, I think that the former is her neutral B while the latter is her down smash. The first one is named along with other moves that look like specials. Also, she 1. looks like she is doing different charge animations and 2. holds her sword in one and doesn't in the other.

[@tannukiiruukii]

The fsmash is literally just... Fire, that's all it is her character is fire

[@macenanoro826]

Well... Yes. Pyra ain't a subtle name.

[@tannukiiruukii]

@@macenanoro826 if you didn't understand I'm saying this because m2k thought the fire was a mechanic because he heard rex say something.

[@makotoyuki345]

@@tannukiiruukii no he meant the “extra” fire to the smash that supposedly does more damage indicated by Rex putting a spotlight on it

[@tannukiiruukii]

@@makotoyuki345 honestly knowing the original game and the move it's based on, I doubt anything is applied to the move. Even in the original it's just a new attack that has well.. fire.

[@makotoyuki345]

@@tannukiiruukii ok then. Seems weird that they would put a spotlight on the fact that it’s charged with fire but hey: different strokes for different folks

[@dangdung9811]

Maybe transform cancels landing lag? Imo, that might be a unique tech to Pyra/Mythra

[@SPOOKYTOFU]

Shulk has a timing mechanic with the different arts. I wonder if they have a timer on their smash attacks kinda like that, that change the form and the power. So it'll encourage players to use both even more.

[@larod3]

I think flame nova is either a down B or neutral B, and the transformation is which ever one that isn't flame nova, as well as maybe the first forward smash we saw happens to be her forward tilt

[@bionicallyacomputer292]

18:48 yeah bruh it's like she held a attack in storage

[@aidenzerp6025]

The move in the beginning that you said was pyra's fsmash doesn't have the special spark/shine/thing that every smash attack in the game has which means it's not an alternate fsmash or something

[@QuackDeal3r]

At the beginning I think that us her forward tilt and her overhead is the forward smash and I think the flame nova is her down b and that you switch to mythra with neutral b

[@zeeklucifer4519]

I hope switch is shield plus b so she can still have a down b move

[@Mr_Sunday_Gary]

My guess is down b will be swap and mythras animation where she charges the foresight thing is just for the little cut scene. I think the whole mechanic will just be roughly bats within

[@craftyplayz8150]

I have afeeling she’s gonna play like a combination of marth, Shulk, and sephiroth

[@tonberry2670]

We need Torna music. PLEASE PUT IN TORNA MUSIC 😭

[@plentyofpaper]

That thing around 19:00 where M2K is confused about the apparent lack of landing lag on Mythra's down-tilt... From my point of view, I think the most likely scenario is that the character switch doubles as a counter. What appears to be down-tilt to up-air is in fact just the counter being activated. Just a personal theory. We'll find out soon enough how they work.

[@Greenomb]

Although their swap is slower than pt, it seems like you remain your aerial drift while switching, so you can probably b-reverse it and use it like villager's neutral b to get out of disadvantage.

[@יאירבסון-ח1ז]

Flame nova is more likely to be a special (nutral special I think) because in XC2 its one of her special attacks. I believe that their specials in smash would be their special attack in XC2

[@kailastnam9793]

The whole "powering up" up the smash attacks is most likely just an explanation of the fire effects. Pyra's underhanded "f-smash" is probably her f-tilt, and Flame Nova is probably her neutral-b.

[@richardx1157]

I had a hard time listening to what M2k was saying since he had the bangger of a song that is Torna's Battle theme in the background

[@zferolie]

I think that one move you thought was her down smash is actually her b move. Her pose for charging is quite different, and it also mirrors a bit on how Mythrqs b move seems to be: a charge and release move. I think pyra and mythras down b is their buff moves. Pyra adding flame to her moves, and mythra giving her dodges that unique effect. The question then becomes how do you swap between them? A new button combo?

[@nuclearsuplex7383]

I think Up-Special works similar to Min Min. It’s a different part of the move if done in the air. Mythra shoots, Pyra dives.

[@pleaseexcusemydearauntsall4499]

9:25 could be a charge move like you can charge it to be better like hero’s specials are

[@MyKeal]

8:29 that looks like a down air to me

[@OniiChanPls]

Man I'm loving the thumbnail lol