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[@multimasternaruto]

i love watching stuff i can’t afford

[@Barnsey87]

Deffo need to think it over 10x 😅

[@jasonwrites9186]

Josh, I think you should cover high-end gear for sure. 100% First of all, it's just fun/entertaining to see fancy gear. And you doing a review means that you can justify the time spent listening and analyzing high-end gear, and that experience just continues to add value to your perspective on all things - including more financially accessible stuff. EDIT: I would like to know a bit more of your audio chain in these videos though. e.g. are you using two or three different dacs or amps in your process? Any interesting insights with gear? :)

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

not really the shanling sounds as good as k7pro hm cant think of any except the already mentioned, prob more careful with dac selection

[@bhouse2213]

I love your high-end videos and I purchased the AB-1266 PHI TC based on your reviews. I would love to see more high end amps, dacs, cables, interconnects, power cords, etc. Not everyone watching is looking for entry/mid tier. Keep the reviews coming!

[@TrackMackovision]

Hey Josh! Been watching for a long time, and finally got a pair of LCD-X 2021. Amazing, everything you said about them and I couldn't be happier. Keep up the amazing work! These Meze look really interesting, would love to find somewhere to demo them eventually.

[@mastaboog749]

Love these high end videos even if I'll never hear one of these. Maybe I'll hit a canjam some day. I ordered the crinacles the other day along with an EarStudio MKS II and a bit excited. I'm not too big into IEMs but I've been having more fun with them as I get them to fit better but I'm more of a big boy sort of guy. In fact I'm building my own pair of Woodies Grados right now. but I ordered a build your own IEM kit also so I'm going to dabble.

[@masterxyr]

Having been in this 'hobby' for some time now, I am not shocked as much by the TOT prices. Not Sure I'll ever want to spend 4k on a pair of Hps but never say never. Now, I am also not one for going after crazy amounts of detail as you also get tons of noise with it, immensely limiting my sources and I far prefer melody to audio. Excellent work as usual, Josh! I must remember to drop a line here more often since not only it benefits the algorithms and all that, but also because I too enjoy some compliments my way, so way keep mine all for myself :D

[@matthewweflen]

@@Cxs1a3 They might mean TOTL, "top of the line."

[@masterxyr]

@@Cxs1a3 top of the line $$$

[@fatdoi003]

don't think you'll need to spend that much to get the warm and fuzzy sound

[@ruimc]

Hi Josh, thanks for the great videos. Keep them coming. Wanted to know what you think the upgrade path is from the Hifiman Sundara, in both the planar and dynamic headphones range and perhaps the next step up from Theresa well.

[@Dibromatic]

I appreciate the high end reviews but thank you for doing the 'budget' stuff for paupers like me.

[@garrymckay804]

Hey Josh, I just bought some Diana TCs off the back of your review, so really looking forward to that comparison piece

[@Dibromatic]

Question for future: have you done any headphone modding (damping changes and the like)? I opened up my dt770s and have had a blast trying to tune them.

[@jodiac]

Oh wow I love that these come with alcantara pads, I had to get velour pads for both my sundaras and my m40xs and, of course, it changes the sound, but it’s sooo much more comfortable for me. It really should be standard for headphones to come with a cloth-like (or even suede) pads and the leather/faux leather ones.

[@magnh]

Will you be taking a look at the new Hifiman Edition XS in the near future? Been following your reviews for a long time and would love your opinion on them, especially since you have recommended some of their other sorta similar headphones before

[@brothatwasepic]

Love your high end reviews bro

[@jaydenpocklington1627]

For you what was your first eye opening experience into high end audio, what were the headphones or speakers that really made you think.. wow so this is high end audio For me it was a pair of lcd2 I tried about 6 years ago, it opened my eyes/ears to what was possible and I’ve since fallen down the rabbit hole

[@a1blooded986]

Hey Josh this my first day watching your videos and right away i had to subscribe! Very informational ! I have a question i was wishing you help me ! I recently bought a HD 800s headset and was wondering what we be a GREAT amp and Dac that i can push all the performance out of these headsets ! ( tube amps is something i look forward too) - as-long as it gives clarity and decent bass ill be Happy ! I never heard a push pull or single . Mind you .

[@Skeeb23]

Not a question really but I look at the 1-2k headphones in the same aspect I do when I upgrade my phone. Something I use daily and if researched enough the price hit doesn't bother me much. Above 2k...more of a luxury more then anything. Great vid once again!

[@jonathanhernandez-pn3uu]

Hey josh, love your videos:) quick question tho, I have the Arya but I got a schiit modi 3 for dac and am looking to upgrade , I was wondering if a dac can really make much of a difference in a system? What is the difference?

[@anjedsora]

Can we get a review of the Philips Fidelio L2s? As semi-opens under $100, I'd love to see how you think they stack up against the SHP9600s and the AKG K371s. Plus there's too few high quality reviews of them on YT.

[@lonestar1664]

Please get do more comparison videos we miss those, like best Closed back Stellia, LCD XC, VC similarly open back one.

[@fafolaw]

3:00 More like "two headphones for the price of 10"

[@DBSTH0R]

for Q&A: do you EQ your headphones? thoughts on Harman target?

[@CJNooberson]

Josh, I think you should cover anything about audio gear that you want to/ feel that you should.

[@benderong4478]

Going from an HD-600 to a set of high-end headphones, what are the main differences and is it worth it?

[@x32i77]

Please try to get your hands on the Sonoma acoustic bravura headphone system 🙏

[@GuestExtreme]

Josh I'd like to see your take on ultra budget iems, something between $10 to $40. My suggestions would be CCA CRA, Moondrop Quarks and Tanchjim Ola.

[@zacjones865]

What are you thoughts of these high end plug in headphones from the likes of meze and such vs the more mainstream high end head phone brands like Bower and Wilkins or B &O, with bluetooth and noise cancelling features? Brought this up cause theres basically separate audiophile groups, even though the audio from mentioned brands high end headphones is phenomenal.

[@jamesbianchi]

As usual, another great review!! Probably wont upgrade my Empyreans, but maybe with their next revision of one of their sets in a few years.

[@mareknowakowski1692]

I wanted to buy Empyreans, but I bought the Elites.For upgrading - I don't think there is a value for it (but some reviewers already sold their Empys and bough Elites), but buying brand new Hi End headphones like this,not having anything close to this level before, I think it's reasonable ,to get the newest flagship.

[@Martijn1234]

The Empyreans are still wonderful. I upgraded and have both currently and although the Elite's Trump them in all areas I still quite like that bass bloat sometimes. It might not be technical but it's enjoyable, especially with R&B and other bass heavy music. The Elite's can definitely rock as well just in a more sophisticated way. The bass is more defined and faster but it's still nice and meaty.

[@mareknowakowski1692]

@@Martijn1234 yes, I miss bass thump in the Elites, I upgraded them with silver balanced cable, and even if I like heavy bass in R&B, I sacrificed it for having more technical and TOTL product from Meze. Still burnig them in .

[@Martijn1234]

@@mareknowakowski1692 doesn't take too long to burn in but I felt they did change for the better after about 30hrs. Could all be in my head of course (brain burn in) but I really liked them from the start. Enjoy guys 😉

[@davidelmquist8670]

Waiting for the Hifiman XS and Meze Liric.

[@R4K45H1_GAMING]

I think a ranking sennheiser headphone/earphone video would be pretty cool

[@peacelovemetal5197]

Purely in terms of resolution, how big of a difference is there between each major price bracket?

[@masterxyr]

here's a few suggestions for great quality music and very well recorded, IMO, oc, Beck, Sade (hit or miss here, as I find some albs are great and others are appalling - CDs), Susanne sunfdor, especially the Brothel Alb; and maybe a few haven't noticed yet, but Bjork's stuff is rippled with detail and intrinsically worked soundscapes.

[@angelcb6104]

I like your channel, but I ask you a favor. Is there a possibility that you can review the Shure SRH840?

[@Icharuswings]

What amp/dac/headphones would you recommend for a $500 total budget?

[@rafael6769]

How big is the difference betwen the 1-2 k headphones and the high end ?

[@tomas_m]

To me the hybrid pads made them sound way more bloated in mid-bass, to a disgustingly unbalanced extent. And the Alcantara pads caused a noticeable sub-bass roll-off (compared to Susvara directly)

[@fiyzin2392]

Can you please do more IEM reviews? Like the ones called KINERA IMPERIAL BALDR 2.0 AND KINERA IMPERIAL ODIN 2.0. I am a headphone guy myself but, lately, it seems like IEMs are kinda catching up.

[@AReasonableManAbroad]

"Specificity" is the word you're looking for. I've heard you swap the 'f' or a 'c' on occasion. Love your content, and we all have those words myself definitely included.

[@teachonlywhatiseasy]

is there a speed difference between sundara and lcd x and lcd5 or meze's 4k or diana TC?

[@amirrez6002]

If you were starting fresh, in terms of the audio gear you own, with a budget of 10,000 what products will you buy

[@jaynayy]

What kind of music are these headphones for? Will it sound good for Electonic?

[@lonestar1664]

Noticed no subject tagging was done on timeline it helps viewers who are not interested in specific topic can slip and jump to interesting section.

[@ajrofficial06]

Have you Thought about Music Review?!

[@orrman5]

What would you consider a recommended two high end headphones collection to compliment one another? I own the Susvara and LCD-5 and it really covers everything I need but wondering what other combinations others have in mind.

[@tomas_m]

(I have Susvara, heard Elite, not LCD-5) I'd say Elite+LCD-5 will be a combo with broader coverage. Elite being touch warm, LCD-5 touch brighter in the mids, Susvara is just neutral between them, and technically too most likely.

[@hartyewh1]

I'd say you can't beat that. Utopia might be more to someones taste, but in my opinion the Elite is nowhere near those three.

[@orrman5]

I haven't tried the Elite but my go-to is the Susvara and when I want to change it up a bit or add a little bass EQ I pick up the LCD-5. This works really well for me.

[@samidanger3666]

Maybe a dynamic and electrostatic... 🤓 ZMF + Audeze CRBN 😎

[@drewrudy1986]

susvara is pretty much peak, but depending on what you're doing, some Diana's might be interesting.

[@irregularstar2399]

Shure srh440 vs 840 tbh. Could also include akg 712 (if recall correctly).

[@aisidapatrick2781]

Best budget DAC AMP combo for planar headphones will be a great video.

[@salemkhamis6788]

I listen to alot of metal, nu metal, swedish melodic metal, rock what would be ur suggestion for this type of songs ive been trying to find a good pair of headphones but i cant find any can you suggest a good headset for metal/rock

[@Scrabxd]

How good are really sundaras?, Would you recommend something else for this price range?

[@jayh8840]

listened to them during canjam, paired with the dCS Bartok amp/dac. The sound is mushy, almost like there is a layer of plastic film separating the sound from my ears.

[@johnsoriano3812]

This is nice. Would be a good one

[@0dyss3us51]

As much as the Meze is prob amazing I am personally really interested in if Abyss makes a TC closedback or semi closed, can you call DMS and ask? 😛 I think you channel would grow if you did more gaming headsets on the higher end side and best headsets under 1000, 500, 200 dollars etc. I would however still love to see you cover high end stuff, because I learn a lot from you on it

[@mrsyd258]

Where is the Audeze LCD 5 review? even the initial impression was earlier than phi tc

[@th3outs1d3r1984]

Hey Josh, I was hoping you could go into the difference between having a fully balanced cable vs using a 1/4” to balanced adapter when you are using a balanced Dac/Amp set-up? I am asking because I would love to use a tube amp (which the majority in my price range come SE) with my solid state balanced amp as the pre-amp. Or would it make sense to have balanced cables with a 1/4” adapter? Thanks.

[@Martijn1234]

Typically Balanced XLR will have more power than the single ended connection (1/4"). Whether it sounds better I cannot really say for sure but I always go balanced if it's available because some swear by it. It's worth noting that because it will typically be louder this can also be viewed as sounding "better" to the ears when really it is just louder :) I also love the tubes and as you say not that many tube amps are balanced but there are quite a few more nowadays. You do need to be careful when mixing Balanced with Single Ended. It can damage equipment. I believe it only works without any issues one way - i.e. when the output from the amp is Single Ended it is OK to get an adapter to convert that connection to a 4-pin XLR headphone cable. I used an adapter from Oidio sound in the UK (OIDIO MONGREL ADAPTER & INTERCONNECT CABLE) with my Feliks tube amp and it worked very well. Hope this helps.

[@h.hristov]

Q&A: Meze Empyrean or HIFIMAN Arya?

[@salemkhamis6788]

Can we get a review on the new beyerdynamic dt 900 pro x

[@matthewweflen]

I prefer the high end reviews, personally. So much budget stuff is basically the same - the high end has more differentiation.

[@mareknowakowski1692]

Budget stuff lasts short like fashion, Hi End last for lifetime:)

[@matthewweflen]

@@mareknowakowski1692 Well, as long as it's not Hifiman ;-)

[@NOFKL]

@Joshua Valour what about Meze ELITE and its upgrade calbes (silver)?

[@mareknowakowski1692]

Yeah great question!

[@davidelmquist8670]

Maybe you're hearing have hard to pick up higher freq?

[@tanvirislamriyad8370]

plz review audeze lcd XC latest revision

[@stephannordmann5346]

For me the best 👍

[@moots27]

Can you do blessing 2 dusk x crinnacle IEM?

[@Milezperhour]

Q&A: Do you _really_ need an amp to drive high end headphones, or will a dongle be enough? For instance, with the Diana V2, could you get away without an amp and just crank the volume? On a side note, I think it'd be interesting if you did a video breaking a guide for headphone impedance/sensitivity and how to pair that with amp impedance. I would LOVE a video like that and I think it would help a ton of people out. Anyways, great content as always Josh

[@yoramdiamand]

I listen to the Empyrean through the dragonfly red to hear within my computer which records I'll put in my app for my headphone amp. The sound is better than expected but not good enough for listening for a longer time

[@davidryan5482]

I own Clears, LCD2, LCD4, hd 600 and andromedas. Clears and andromedas only slight benefit amped the others it’s mandatory, so yes.

[@jonathanbrady3236]

Gorgeous voice, gorgeous face, great reviews.

[@thevashfan12392]

I'm going for a hifiman susvara. It'll complete my audiophile setup and then I move on. Once it's done I'm done.

[@BROCKma]

for the Q&A: is the Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro in 2022 worth it?

[@kajetan9550]

How would you compare the technical performance of a TOTL headphone to TOTL in ear? For example the Empire Ears Odin to the Susvara. I’m saving up for such high end IEM (cause of convenience), but I’m wondering what I would be missing out not going the full sized headphone route…

[@dleblanc343]

Feel free to drop me a PM on headfi (same username) I own both, and many others. Definitely some iem’s I can recommend over Odin that have recently released. Susvara - if you’re a fan of neutrality - is very difficult to outperform

[@kajetan9550]

@@dleblanc343 thank you, I will. I haven’t had an actual account on head-fi, so I just created one and am waiting for the administrator’s approval. This is a topic that I’m really curious about, but I would ask about specific models that I consider

[@aloak]

In the realm of high end headphones I'd love to hear what you think about the Dan Clark Audio Stealth. They're objectively the best measuring high end headphones that I know of and yet I don't see many people reviewing them.

[@metalbased9267]

For the QnA. Are highend headphones even worth it? To me it sounds like, watching quite a few audiophiles in KZbin, that you basically pay thousands of dollars for soundstage/space, seperation and microdetails? Is me impression accurate?

[@tomas_m]

As with absolutely everything, the price-result dependency is not linear. Nobody can answer is it worth it for someone else. Spend an amount you won't miss elsewhere and keep in mind the diminishing returns if you push it.

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

I can give you my 2cents. I started w/ the HD58x $150, which I love btw. I spent about 6 months researching planar magnetics and decided on the Meze Empyreans. Most audiophiles only focus the sound even if they touch on build quality and comfort its NOT a priority to them, while it is to me as I've bought expensive headphones in the past years ago that sounded great but I could not wear for any more than an hour or two. While it is probably true the Empyreans are not the most resolving at their price point they are w/o a doubt the most comfortable and can be worn for hours w/o physical fatigue or perspiration. Getting back to the sound and to possibly answer your question "Are highend headphones even worth it?" Obviously that is subjective. One person put it to me like this, how much did you spend on your TV or your computer? $1500, 2000, 3000? Why is it okay to spend that kind of money on those items which will generally be outdated fairly quickly but not be okay w/ spending that kind of money on headphones which mind you can last many years to come if taken care of? However, one thing I have learned going from a 58x (which I still use and love) to the Empyreans and is often a trend w/ highend headphones is that the more expensive you go typically results in a more specific use case meaning they are generally not well rounded for a wide variety of genre's. So to better explain I can listen to just about genre on my 58x and for the most part sound really good BUT if I switch to the Empyreans there is a HUGE elevation in listening experience w/ SOME genre's while others fall behind so what I would call less well rounded. This is why you see many audiophiles carrying many headphones cuz as they switch genre's of music they will switch headphones/amps/dacs. In short their perspective is use the right tool for the right job. It's just the tool for the right job in this hobby can get very expensive, lol. Thats my 2cents, Im no audiophile and tbh I dont aim to be I find them to be like Karen's about gear which puts me off, lol. Josh on the other hand is cool AF and NOT a Karen.

[@hartyewh1]

@@heyguyslolGAMING This is a very good comment. From my point of view you get 95% of the sound you can get quite cheaply (HD650, Sundara, K 371) and similar to your comment the TOTL stuff is often quite specific so detail or low end resolution or this or that is superb at the cost of something else. I'm mainly interested in an all-rounder headphone since the sound (/genre) can vary within a song and I can't pause and change to another pair just for the drum solo. LCD-X 2021 I find is quite worth it if it's not a large investment, but beyond that I haven't found anything worth it to me. I tried most, but maybe the Susvara or LCD-5 will convince me to make the jump in price, but I doubt it. EQ does so much for free as well that I want to experiment with that on a high level next.

[@MrEvhel83]

i think reviews of 1-2k equipment is most useful :)

[@aceofspades6667]

why do "high end" headphone reviews fall short? Many people want the totl tier and strive to save for something like that one day. they also can watch the used market for deals. I've seen LCD4s going for 1850 and Focal Utopia going for 2000. Not cheap but not 4000 like the msrp. Meze emps also go for 1750 along with focal stellias.

[@sujaanachandrasiri4521]

For the QnA, Have your thoughts changed on the HE-1000v2 changed since the review? Your review was made a while back and was wondering if it was still a worthy TOTL. Thanks!

[@lingonberryjam320]

Yeah, I was wondering this as well

[@ahmedsafa91]

hearing every detail is unnatural .. only spiderman did that and that was unnatural phenomena. waiting for the comparision .

[@ricardocamejomedilusa1038]

yes budget yeeeees finaly....

[@mpumelelogumede6557]

Here's a question about High-End headphones(or rather the High-End headphone community). Why the prejudice and generalisations towards electrostats? One bad electrostatic product does not represent all electrostatic products. Can everyone just give them a chance!?

[@salemkhamis6788]

Are any of the high end headphones good for metal and rock cuz ive tried some if the 1k headphones and they sound worse for metal than some 200-300dollar ones

[@Paul-py1oh]

Everything depends on the genre of music you listen to. Metal is niche compared to most genres listened by audiophiles

[@TonyZEHS]

tldr buy a pair of Clears/LCD as those compete with if not surpasses this headphone in most respects but price. When the justifier for these is their additional pads and build quality… look somewhere else for the prices these commend unless you already owned the flagships and just want something to relax with between listening to the flagships.

[@piratemousey]

Wow. Serious week ahead.

[@VIJAY-ck6oh]

What are some cheap/budget alternatives to high end headphones?

[@oscara.2636]

Off the top of my head, open backs would be HiFiman Sundara, closed back would be AKG 371, IEM would probably be Moondrop Aria.

[@hartyewh1]

HD650/HD600 with EQ are great and Oscar already listed the rest of the best. These really will give you 95% of what's out there for a complete experience. Certain TOTL headphobes offer superior elements, but often with clear weaknesses as well. LCD-X 2021 that I got for €/$800 is the highest I've found reason to go for and everything below $/€4000 is in my budget.

[@youjohn__]

Hyped for the Lcd 5 vid. Question: high end iem better than mid range headphone? In terms of sound quality only.

[@hartyewh1]

If you have no meaningful preference difference between the formas than I would say IEMs are way better for the money. For many they simply prefer one over the other regardless of sound. A Dusk spits on most headphones of any price point especially if neither are EQ'd. LCD-5 and Susvara might have a tonality and quality that compares to good IEMs.

[@AceDeclan]

Detail is not treble.

[@johankellerman3029]

Hi Josh, I've got a question regarding headphones and music genre. I'm currently using the B&O H6 second generation headphones and I usually listen to metal / metalcore, however I do listen to a variety of other genres as well (a guilty pleasure of mine is Barbra Streisand's Memory). My question is this, are there specific attributes to look for in a headphone when you primarily listen to a specific genre of music? Thanks

[@camoturtle18]

Q&A: what do you think of the Fazor LCD-2 that you can buy from Audeze right now? If either you or DMS could review that headphone and how it compares to LCD-2c and LCD-X for the price that would be great.

[@bananastuff2840]

I've no doubt they're good, but good for the money? Can't really say till you try them out yourself.

[@hartyewh1]

I spent an evening with them and I'd pay $1000 maximum and I would only enjoy them with EQ. I prefer LCD-X 2021 (with EQ) in almost every aspect, including build and design.

[@VIJAY-ck6oh]

What are some really cheap must haves?

[@hartyewh1]

Define really cheap? $12 gets you a CRA CCA, but how much would you still call really cheap?

[@Anjfyi]

I have the Empyreans and I've had the chance to try out the Meze Elites. What's crazy to me is that after I EQ'd the Empyreans they sounded SO close to the Elites, I thought I was crazy A/B'ing and not hearing much of a difference. Using Oratory's settings on the Empyreans gives them more detail and opens up the soundstage. I'd really like to know what the difference is between them because the tuning actually made a world of difference for the Empyreans which made them sound eerily identical to the Elites.

[@mareknowakowski1692]

So imagine how Elites would sound after EQ...

[@Anjfyi]

@@mareknowakowski1692 Honestly they don't need much EQ'ing except for preferential changes, they're already quite good out of the box.

[@mareknowakowski1692]

@@Anjfyi I 've upgraded them with silver cable , for me this Hi Res sound is perfect .

[@Anjfyi]

@@mareknowakowski1692 I've tried them with different cables, with Meze's upgraded silver plated cables as well and they all sounded the same to me. Best cable was actually a balanced cable I bought for $20 from Aliexpress that worked well for the Empyreans.

[@maciejburchardt7927]

Looking for closed-back headphones ( it’s a must) under 500€ for mostly rock, metal, rap/hip-hop music. Any recommendations people ? Thank you. Ps. Anyone tasted the new version of Shure SRH840A ?

[@ydid687]

original hifiman HE-6 is purported to be the best for metal

[@hartyewh1]

That's a reallu tricky one. Many closed-backs have some notably issues and a meek K 371 is better than most at any price point. LCD-2 Closed-back is great and you might find it used for under 500. That would be the best in my opinion, but do consider the weight if you're sensitive for that. An EQ'd DT770/DT1770 is fine as well. Beyond the LCD-2 CB all I can recommend is the Liric that's already $2000.

[@maciejburchardt7927]

@@ydid687 Thank you for you suggestion but I’m looking for a closed-back headphones only 👍🏻

[@maciejburchardt7927]

@@hartyewh1 Thanks for your reply. What about K361 vs SHR840 or SHR840A ? Have you heard them before?

[@mareknowakowski1692]

Amazing piece of technology, looks like hypercar or Si Fi spaceship, I 'm waiting for upgraded silver cable for them.

[@yikup]

Homeboy wearing two jackets inside

[@hartyewh1]

For me the stock sound of these is pretty bad. The tonality is fucked in the low mids or somewhere there. With EQ they're pretty nice, but nowhere near the price point. The low-end still lacks articulation and remains boomy. A pleasant and easy kind of sound and with EQ more balanced than the Empyrean for sure, but so are most headphones. The build quality didn't impress me as much as I was expecting either. I'd take an EQ'd LCD-X over these with or without EQ when it comes to sound.

[@kooiarchy99]

Sounds expensive...

[@sebanambrus9265]

You literaly described the Sound of the good old HD650 . Meze is massive overpriced , also all totl headphones nowadays . I had the empyrean And a good amped hd 650 can give you that sink in the music feel at ripped price... If you want technicalities buy a used hd800 for 600-800 USD . IT is literaly better Than the nowaday 5k headphones at technicalities. Also no headphones can cover everything perfectly there are no flawless headphone.

[@fatdoi003]

In no way I will spend this kind of money to get a warm and fuzzy headphone

[@nicoras8803]

About time, it becomes boring wat6ching things you cannot afford.

[@Nordraw]

It’s alway humorous listening to complaints about a 4000 dollar headphone. That they need a certain amp or dac or a certain kind of music to sound good.

[@hartyewh1]

Especially these that I listened to 20 seconds before turning on the EQ to make them decent. No amp or dac would fix the tonality issues, but that's not what everyone cares about anyway.

[@TheCujo1956]

At $4000 what can be said! If you're going to charge your customer an insane of amount of money money then the said headphone should be tune to be pleasing to most genres. At $4000 you need to satisfy 99 % of the customers They should ban all Headphones above $2000!

[@TheMasterMind4444]

Aye no homo but like Josh is kinda a good lookin dude though don’t tell my wife I said that

[@aa-tx7th]

god almost a minute and a half NOT talking about the subject of the vid