MG4 Bangkok challenge

[@stuart_thomas]

Hi Bjorn, great video. I’ve done the same test with my MG4 LFP in the UK and I was able to replicate 85kw charging at 12c at IONITY. I’m surprised you had coldgate issues in 30c temps. I’m thinking software has something to do with the charging limitations as i preconditioned and yo-yo’d into the charger with low SoC - just a thought. I’m sure software will get better over time but I agree it drives like a German car and is well planted and for the price point it’s hard not to overlook the car. If you want to come to the UK you’re more than welcome to test my MG4 SE SR. I have a Tesla M3 LR perhaps colab UK trip with both cars?😉

[@Evphonehome]

What would be interesting to add to your tests is the satnav and if it adds charging stops automatically. I think that’s a really important feature in EV’s and it’s sometimes (often) missing. And it’s also missing from most tests on KZbin.

[@chrispenn715]

Don't think this particular car had the built in satnav - if that's what you were referring to? It's only on higher spec models....

[@SoloSchoolwear]

Agree, note Bjorn was using his Google maps. I would expect, in time, Android Auto will eventually interface with battery / efficiency data from an ev and plot charging points en route. I don't think the Trophy has this feature built in and if it does no one has featured it in their reviews.

[@PJWey]

@@chrispenn715I have an MG4 SE, no satnav but OBD and ABRP are brilliant additions

[@bilgyno1]

The top spec version in Holland costs €37k and qualities for €3k subsidy. Volkswagen's ID.3 base version starts at €46k and gets no subsidy. So the total difference is €RIP-ID.3

[@syedsaadshah3263]

Finally!!! I have been waiting for Bjorn to test the MG4. The lighter interior is better looking than the ones on offer in UK.

[@davidwatson22]

Hi Bjorn good to see you finally got your hands on this car , would still like to see some Nordic testing . I think this car has a manual switch to turn on battery heater to pre heat the battery did you find this option. I realise this next bit is too late as you won't have the car but if you get this car again see if you can work out how to release the tailgate latch from inside it's the only way out if the car locks you inside people are having problems

[@philipperapaccioli2868]

Great test. I have seen other tests where charging speed did not exceed 85 Kw/h. In France, UK, Itraly... MG is selling the MG4 with the small 51 Kw/h battery. Black interior, 16 inch steel wheels with wheel covers. In France, it sells for 29 k€, 23 k€ after government incentive. Prices are simillar in other markets. They are also selling the 64 Kw NMC battery version in two trim levels. Your interior color is an option on the top of the line Luxury version. There is a smart battery heating setting which is supposed to improve charging speed, but also increases consumption. I took delivery of a 51 kw MG4 a week ago. Great car, but first impression is that range is quite affected by cold temperatures (slightly negative). Would be curious to see a cold weather test of the LFP version. Maybe MG is not selling the LFP version in Norway for that reason, but if they are, a cold weather test would be fantastic. Look forward to your test of the 64 Kw version as well.

[@bjornnyland]

Some corrections: 85 kW 51 kWh 64 kWh

[@foreverwhisper]

I got 100kwh charging speed tops on a model equipped with NMC battery from 30% to 60%

[@bjornnyland]

*100 kW

[@xbluejay]

The exterior looks great, especially the rear of this car

[@foreverwhisper]

I have to disagree, the lines at lower rear part looks a bit too busy, and worst of all, those 17 inch rear tires looks smaller than the ones at front and shrink into the body somehow. I wonder if a replacement of 18 inch 235 tire would make it look better.

[@rikkiola]

@@foreverwhisper It transforms the car, there's a channel where they've put black 18" wheels on, it looks so different. The 17" are lost in those arches with that striking body

[@foreverwhisper]

@@rikkiola sounds like it transcendences rather than transforms😁

[@rikkiola]

@@foreverwhisper Here is the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqOkfXidqt6agNk

[@gzcwnk]

Fantastic you get this MG4. The Mg4 and atto3 are on my shopping list but I want proper reviews.

[@swatcher1]

Thank you Bjørn for testing the MG4 - I appreciate very much! I wonder if the Luxery-Version with bigger battery and faster charging would impress you even more. =) Reminder: There is a newer software-version out there which should be _much_ less intrusive in the MG Pilot. As mentioned by other users: The MG4 needs manually pre-conditioning which can be activated in the system.

[@HenrikJacobsenDK]

Thanks Björn, I hope MG lends you the car in Norway soon, seen some really good charging speed (better than advertised) at some other KZbinrs. With most going for the mg4 I feel the question is do I dare to gamble on MG fixing the software.

[@CampGareth]

@渡海 watch the video. Main problems are central display going unresponsive and needing a reset, autosteer driving along the lane dividers, autosteer slowing down or stopping steering in corners. Additionally the charge rate is inconsistent with other user reports but that could have other causes.

[@Secretsquirrell82]

@@渡海-q2w did you watch the video?

[@stoapfalzrunden4150]

There is already a new software to fix the line assist. MG4 is on the all new electric plattform from MG so i think they will try to fix the biggest issues fast. But thats only my personal opinion. I wish the bigger battery would be LFP too because i want to buy one and hold it for many years if they get most of the bugs squashed.

[@CampGareth]

@Stoapfalzrunden unfortunately in the UK the top spec always comes with an NMC battery, I wish I could get 360 cameras, heated seats etc and LFP

[@HenrikJacobsenDK]

@@渡海-q2w I have a MG4 trophy on order, so if anything I am biased with hoping it’s better than it’s. But mostly leaning towards canceling the order and that’s because of the missing middle headrest in the back.

[@michaelherlihy2090]

Saw an MG4 charging at 143kw at Ionity chargers here in Ireland... same as my fat etron! 😅 Must have been the 64kWh version

[@evjim1612]

I persuaded a friend who was an EV virgin to buy on of these here in the UK and he is loving it. At £26k for the base model, small battery version its a bargain and competes well against cars that cost £10k more!

[@dgurevich1]

After buying the old MG ZS, I learned to drive everywhere at 90 kph. It brought the range somewhere close to advertised and it is a lot more calming doing that speed. After 2 years of this, I just drive at 90 on any car now.

[@mariuss2466]

I take mine today, thinking of doing à trip from Paris to Norway with it soon

[@MoveElectric]

Great video Björn. MG in Germany also does not lend test cars. I tried it several times, they even did not answer my emails. 🤔

[@CliffordRutley]

Pleased you like it. I'm getting one of these with the 64kwh battery when it finally comes. Hopefully it'll be here by March or April. 😀

[@mateuszbalon3762]

Great video, please more tests with mg4, maybe also with 64kwh battery that's charge real fast

[@richardepping9748]

Hi Bjorn. I also saw that there is a manual battery preheater selection / switch in the software menu. That should prevent the battery cold gate.

[@bjornnyland]

Not available in Thailand.

[@juiceofsapho]

"Nice firmness to it, but also soft..." yup, that is how I remember her 😁

[@sredju]

the 51 kwh is also available in europe, only with a single-phase ac charger without a double spoiler and without a heat pump

[@SoloSchoolwear]

Thanks Bjorn! Waiting on the 64kw test in Norway. Have a Trophy edition on order. Tell MG Norway not to be so selfish and lend u a car to test! 👍

[@bjornnyland]

*64 kWh

[@SoloSchoolwear]

@@bjornnyland looks like we've all got to be better at quoting units of energy! 👍

[@Simon-dm8zv]

Finally the MG4! Nice Bjørn!

[@sergiorelvas]

Bjorn what do you think about the chemistry of the pack, standard Vs luxury, 51kwh vs 64kwh? Whish is better? In Europe we only can choose the bigger pack with the all extras!!! The small pack is the cheapest... Does it have bigger difference?!? Thanks.

[@carlfairbuncool8252]

Thanks for the test Björn. Difficult to compare with deutsche autos of course pricewise, but this certainly is a car I can consider. Any chance of seeing one of the best cars from China? The Zhiji iM L7.

[@Richnetm]

Great car, maybe the MG 4 will be my next car in 2 or 3 years, its a great car for a good price.

[@colla555]

Are the headlights good? From the video, they are pretty good.

[@pollada1]

Hi, may I ask if the battery is actively cooled. If you leave it parked outside, what's the maximum battery temperature it gets to? I'm from the Philippines by the way. So I'm worried about LFP longevity in our hot climate similar to yours in Thailand I guess. Appreciate the advise. Thanks

[@janvanrookhuijzen8309]

Fyi: the 51 kWh LFP version is also available in Europe, at least in the Netherlands. Seems like a great deal.

[@stefffarn]

First Stop. Have you manual Battery Precondition Active?

[@bjornnyland]

Not available in Thai version.

[@EVSpeed]

I hope you test the neta soon

[@Lucaat]

In Austria you can also get the 51kw model, higher spec is also available 64kw, but kinda sucks that blindspot monitoring mirror is only on the highest trim.

[@bjornnyland]

*kWh

[@Peekaboo890]

How much does it cost to charge in Thailand with the commercial chargers?

[@bjornnyland]

4-7 baht/kWh only

[@verboseEV]

22:14 is the battery health info screen the same on both LFP and NMC? 🤔

[@xFlo93x]

Just watching your videos since 2 weeks and love it, always hilarious but very good informations As an german, Please tell me one thing Why the heck are you using so many german words???? 😂😂 Hilarious

[@NIanais]

Hi, and thank you very much for sharing, however can you please confirm that your car is indeed an MG4 Standard 51KW LFP?

[@bjornnyland]

No. It's 51 kWh.

[@PaulSmithAUS]

Love going on these drives with you ;)

[@iks77]

can the lane assist and other assistance functions be disabled permanently or do they pop on every time you start driving?

[@cbowen01]

They reset every time on European MG4s. Something to do with a requirement for the Euro Ncap rating.

[@iks77]

@@cbowen01 oh crap, that's a show stopper for me. The assistance systems were such an annoyance during the test drive

[@ziggyyo]

3:21 What is this strange extension on the top of the other car?

[@A.l.e.x.93]

Will there be a 1000 km Challenge in the future with the 51 kWh LFP Battery MG4 ?

[@gianry]

does the consumption is so high ? 192 wk/km ?

[@bjornnyland]

Hammerfest

[@gianry]

@@bjornnyland ahhh???

[@redjohn20001]

The car does have battery conditioning. I believe that when switched on it can consume power at 7kW. You wouldn't want to leave it on unintentionally.

[@bjornnyland]

Not available in Thai version.

[@chrispenn715]

Interesting to compare the spec against my UK car - we only get black interiors here and black roof lining. I prefer the lighter interior colour options on the Thai car.

[@s.kxx1956]

What are those black stickers on the windscreen ? Seen it on the other cars you have driven recently

[@iks77]

the cars in thailand use sun blocking foils - and you see the printings from the foil specs. very annoying actually

[@MichelJanot]

Thanks for this great test ( as usual ) ! I have a question regarding the best app for finding charging point in Thailand... Which one do you think is the best ?

[@Greguk444]

Great video. How do you find chargers on your route?

[@bjornnyland]

Various charging apps

[@Greguk444]

@@bjornnyland I’m looking into buying an EV in Bangkok, please can you be more specific about the charging apps you use in Thailand as the charging network in Thailand is unknown to me and my biggest worry about switching to EV.

[@bjornnyland]

EV Station Pluz (PTT), Elexa (PT), PEA

[@IanMcc1000]

If the car has an LFP battery, is there really a need for "Battery Heath mode" and "Long Journey mode" that shows on the screen while you charge? I thought the benefit was 100% DoD?

[@stefanosebastiano]

Great video as always. Any chance to see a Skoda Enyaq 50 on your channel?

[@azlansharom7011]

What tires does the MG4 in Thailand come with? Also, by having the headlights on while charging does that slow things down a little? Thanks.

[@bjornnyland]

Conti PremiumContact

[@bjornnyland]

Headlights consumes 50 W. A drop in the ocean.

[@alexandrak4464]

21:57 weird to see that recommendation for an LFP 😊

[@chrispack3131]

Why weird? LFP you can charge to 100% without the battery degradation you get from other chemical type batteries!

[@alexandrak4464]

Look closer, on the screen it recommends you to charge lower then 100% for „battery health mode“. It’s weird and wrong…. In a nutshell: looks like they didn’t update the SW for LFP batt. 😂😂

[@amiddled]

​@@alexandrak4464that statement is also true for the LFP version. Although LFP is somewhat less resistant to degradation than NMC when regularly charged to 100%, you will still be extending the life of the battery. The main reason for the 100% charging recommendation on LFP battery cars is that this can help the BMS with calibration as the voltage drop is lower in LFP batteries - which can make the BMS less accurate overtime.

[@SamuraiTacos1]

mg4 would be cool in the usa

[@nortonansell]

Your late to the party Bjorn. I have owned one since the 30th Sep here in the UK. Spot on review mind you as always! Really great fun to drive on a twisty road. The App is very good, loving the remote preheat. Incidentally what tyres did it have on ? finding the road noise is a bit excessive on mine with the supplied continentals.

[@bjornnyland]

*You're

[@adam060577]

@@bjornnyland 🤣

[@JoseRamonTB]

Thanks very good video

[@layseebalsam]

Great review!

MG4 has a manual battery preheat mode!

[@bjornnyland]

Not available in Thailand.

[@timoliver8940]

If MG Norway won’t lend you an MG4 to test try asking MG UK for one here. - MG4 seems to be popular here as I’m seeing plenty on the roads. My problem is it’s Chinese and it seems to me that they are just taking over the world by stealth, but it’s really hard not to be attracted to the MG4

[@fire_stick]

I thought you would like it once you managed to do a road test. 👍

[@MrVeeBlog]

Thank you for the video. Let me ask you Bjorn, when the lane assist lost its position, does the steering fight you when you take over?

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@nortonansell]

Did on mine a bit when I picked it up. But I believe they have tweaked it down in the later software updates. So maybe the press car had updated software on it.

[@colingoode3702]

Good driving review. Why don't we get that lighter interior in the UK MG4 models? Our models are so dark inside & with no rear passenger lighting it makes it impossible to see anything in the back at night. No grab handles or rear wiper either. All hatchbacks, SUV's & Estate's should have a rear wiper so I just don't know why so many manufacturers are leaving the off these days. It's a good car at a reasonable price but the specification on UK models let it down. Switch off the Lane Assist. I've never found a single car yet that it works properly on without scaring the life out of the driver at some point.

[@DavinaTheWeena]

sheeeeeeeeeeet on the windscreen

[@DariuszTech]

I think that the MG4 is a. Exceptional value for money electric car I have been driving one for 5 months. Brilliant tech, nice look, decent charging speed and brilliant price. I have made my own owner review on my channel too👍😊

[@AB-yt4hd]

Did you deactivate the battery heater? Many reviewers forget to turn it off and it uses a lot of energy. This might explain the high power consumption. The 64kWh MG4 charges much faster than the 51kWh MG4.

[@bjornnyland]

Battery heater not available in Thai MG4.

[@elliotedge4307]

You should turn car of when charging bjorn

[@bjornnyland]

Why?

[@jackdkakk4801]

Cool car björn

[@veljkodjukic8783]

Hi Bjorn, Have you heard of Changan Sl03? Seems like a very good car to me. As for its software, it uses Huawei Harmony OS. It would be interesting to see how that software works and if it meets your criteria since you haven't had one with it so far it seems. It comes in two versions with 59 kWh and 80 kWh. I just don't know if it will be offered outside of China 🤔

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@TeaBreak.]

Do you think blue is the best colour? Ford RS Orange is a bit brigtt. Black doesn't show the design and white is a bit boring. :)

[@foreverwhisper]

Hey Bjorn, did you notice the low frequency noise from tires and suspension when road is bumpy during your test drive?, I found it put direct pressure to my ear drum, very uncomfortable

[@chrishyde1216]

We noticed a lot of road noise rumble when we test drove an MG4, and my wife found the drive jerky … though that might have been my driving! Also the all black interior in the UK cars is very austere and unattractive. Hope the light grey is offered. Shame, as I liked driving the car and it’s good value, but these issues and the software deter me.

[@foreverwhisper]

@@chrishyde1216 it feels like you’ve got a woofer in your car to amplifier all the bumps noises

[@zeljkodjordjevic659]

Dear Bjorn, can you treat us with a test of BYD Dolphin, while you still in Thailand? That would be great!

[@Tomzuki.]

Sounds insane if true that the battery would be coldgating when it's 38.5 C outside, if that reading on the display is accurate

[@bjornnyland]

Car was parked outside and it was 21°C last night.

[@jinny7]

@@bjornnyland even so fast charging in itself should produce alot of heat? I mean look at the leaf 😅

[@amiddled]

MG need to sort the lane keeping/assist systems out. They are awful. Same on the newer ZS EV.

[@rui569]

Chinese software, overall, has ways to go. 2 years passed and Xpeng never had the promised updates.

[@narcsba]

On paper the net capacity is 50'8 kwh I can't understand how you got 49'5...

[@bjornnyland]

Paper = nominal capacity in a lab under ideal conditions

[@narcsba]

@@bjornnyland understood. By the way check out the new Mazda MX30 R-EV electric with range extender on a rotary engine with DC and AC charging, something very rare!

[@tridruankham2657]

❤❤❤

[@Tsenngu]

warmgate

[@tridrean]

❤️❤️❤️

[@dannyspeed]

I'm changing my Ioniq 38kw in October and was seriously considering an MG4 but after watching this the software and poor lane keeping is a deal breaker for me. Used Tesla model 3 prices have come down in the UK and are £25k now and still have 4-5 years on the telsa battery/drivetrain warranty.

[@rikkiola]

I'm not too concerned about this, software will evolve, this is very early stage and will improve with real world feedback

[@bjornnyland]

*38 kWh

[@dannyspeed]

@@bjornnyland Corrected 🤣👍

[@pigedehekkan]

I don't find the Tesla autopilot to be very good and has stopped using it. It can't keep the lanes as good as you claim. In addition it phantom brakes, makes suddenly turns into busstops etc, can't keep the correct speed and has the most anoying driver assist system of my three el-cars. Tesla has good app, batteries, motors and the build quiality is good for the prize, only dampers and seats are bad. But autopilot in Tesla, it is bad and only usable on highway with midle divider and no oncoming traffic.

[@locksmack]

Seems like we might need another round of tests on the Atto 3. Maybe you received a lemon?

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@locksmack]

@@bjornnyland 😆

[@tesla3714]

You need Sponsor from Thailand, because you have Stormberg, MisterGreen .... no Sponsor from Thailand. Maybe a food Sponsor

[@bjornnyland]

Who said I didn't have Thai sponsors? You should start watching my Thai channel...

[@tesla3714]

@@bjornnyland Yesss i see :-) like a ninja. But i can´t Thai but i like Thailand

[@SamuraiTacos1]

i had a nissan leaf now i drive a mustang mach e

[@ME-cb1vw]

abc - always be coppying

[@billdonald3671]

I was just writing to say you're hogging the fast lane when you started complaining about others doing it! I wonder if part of the good ride is due to 17" wheels? So many cars now have huge wheels and low profile tyres. That MG4 seemed to be the fancy model with the (silly) rear wings, but not rear privacy glass (were all the windows tinted the same?).

[@bjornnyland]

The difference is that I move off the fast lane when I see cars coming from behind (rarely).

[@bjornnyland]

And the road maintenance in Thailand is shit. So left lane is very often quite bumpy and even has some potholes. Worst case is you ruin your rim. That's why you always hammer in right lane. Now you learned something new.

[@billdonald3671]

@@bjornnyland I guessed it was that. I just thought it was funny and a bit cheeky. Outside Europe there aren’t many places with the population density and money to pay for great roads. I’m in Australia - we have the money, but not the population density.

[@kassup9588]

when tesla video

[@bjornnyland]

is that a question

[@kassup9588]

@@bjornnyland yes