MGSV TPP - 5 Reasons why Venom Snake is Solidus Snake

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@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 7 жыл бұрын
I'm still convinced that VSnake is Solidus ... yes he got the wrong eye dead but what about glass eyes or ... let call it "Clone Recover Technology" ? ^^ And yes, what about the name ... Solidus is kinda the definition for replacing something ... everybody thought he is there to replace Solid in the BigShell incident, but he is not the "Good Character" from that point of view - and VSnake was there to replace BigBoss ... there are still alot multiple matches Yes, he then was supposed to die in OuterHaven, and later at Federal Hall ... but he was still there in MGS4 ALSO as a replacement for BigBoss !!!
@Miguel-ib4rd
@Miguel-ib4rd 7 жыл бұрын
SolidusCabal I'm sorry but that's impossible, in the 80's Solidus was a young man (like Eli) and he commanded a children's unit, Raiden among them in Liberia Premature aging In the clones it occurs when they approach the age that Big Boss had when his DNA was extracted (between 40 and 50). Solidus began to age when he left the Presidency, as President Johnson explains .Solid Snake suffers his premature aging near 50 too ... remember when Liquid says to him "you do not look so young anymore, eh Snake? Big Boss was close to 50 when they made copies of him ... " The difference that Solidus ages faster than others
@anti-globalisttv4453
@anti-globalisttv4453 7 жыл бұрын
wait what about his right-eye?
@pseudonym7180
@pseudonym7180 6 жыл бұрын
Solidus has both of his eyes in MGS2, and Venom already lost his. It's impossible.
@calvinlane4847
@calvinlane4847 6 жыл бұрын
SolidusCabal I'm sorry but your theory is wack
@wompWompWooooooomp
@wompWompWooooooomp 6 жыл бұрын
Solidus had two eyes in Metal Gear Solid 2. Venom lost his eye in Snake Eater.
@joze_tony
@joze_tony 3 жыл бұрын
In mgsv the dna test between venom and Eli were negative, if venom were solidous the dna would be 100% accurate because their are clones
@riteshdas9036
@riteshdas9036 Жыл бұрын
High IQ answer
@mr._l1ghtn1ng_b0lt
@mr._l1ghtn1ng_b0lt Жыл бұрын
good job, guy smarter than me.
@isgamer-8732
@isgamer-8732 Жыл бұрын
Actually it's 96% Solidus was the only 100% clone and Solid is 95%
@2adre
@2adre Жыл бұрын
Case closed 🔒
@HistoryWolfCZ
@HistoryWolfCZ Жыл бұрын
This is true, but remember that this information came from Ocelot who is a master of deception. But still, I think that Venom is Venom and Solidus is Solidus. Both of them my favourite Snakes, by the way.
@jackflynn412
@jackflynn412 7 жыл бұрын
This makes no sense because Solidus would have died at Outer Heaven according to the timeline "Big Boss's Phantom dies". Also Solidus was working with the Patriots up until Shadow Moses so why would he help big boss at the outer heaven uprising? Also Venom Snake's one eye is light gray blue and blind and Solidus had two perfect eyes until one got shot at big shell.
@MushroomNinja
@MushroomNinja 7 жыл бұрын
Green Bean The entire game is based around the concept of 1984 the book and lies that follow it; everything you see is basically either a constructed half-truth and/or Venom's schizophrenia. The video theory isn't good but it's better than what Neogaf and Reddit comes up with
@jackflynn412
@jackflynn412 7 жыл бұрын
MushroomNinja Anything is better than Quiet is Chico.
@Enacaus
@Enacaus 4 жыл бұрын
Look look It is just Nanomachines Son, it gets more complicated in response to kojima’s contact
@priestdamon
@priestdamon 2 жыл бұрын
@@MushroomNinja Yeah meanwhile 'everything you see is a half-truth or venom's schizophrenia' is technically correct ... the fire that burns 'outer heaven' and venom snake getting killed by solid is the real truth (experienced by both solid snake and the world 'in this case the story of mgs as a whole') Venom did eventually take the role of 'big boss' and sacrificed himself so that the real big boss could escape and build the real outer heaven called zanzibar land and was later (ironically) also burned alive by solid in mg2 lol. so to answer your question: 1. MG1 venom did die 2. MG2 big boss did die. 3. no both of these weren't venom's scizophrenia.
@Doobie0113
@Doobie0113 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving me from watching this video
@LiterallyRyan_Gosling
@LiterallyRyan_Gosling 9 ай бұрын
Did you not understand the ending cutscene? There's no way he couls be Solidus because Solidus would be the same age as Liquid and Solid (so still a child)
@zeynepdelibas4109
@zeynepdelibas4109 7 жыл бұрын
But Eli and Venom don't have the same genetic codes.
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 7 жыл бұрын
so do eli and david have the same?
@KiiDKali
@KiiDKali 7 жыл бұрын
SolidusCabal what??? That doesn't make sense. Zeynep Delibas has a point. Eli and venom don't have the same genetic codes so if venom is supposed to be solidus, they would still have the same DNA. So when miller and ocelot ran a DNA test, they said venom and Eli were not related and have no matching genetic codes. I see what you were trying to go with this, but the only thing that somewhat sounds convincing about this, is when solidus said to solid snake at the shell.
@user-ko3sd9qj2h
@user-ko3sd9qj2h 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone is also forgetting that Solidus operated in a different time from Venom and Big Boss. Ultimately he was set to age so he could become the next president. I mean from his creation that was the plan.
@user-ko3sd9qj2h
@user-ko3sd9qj2h 6 жыл бұрын
Strictly speaking he was created last in pretty sure. They wanted a perfect copy of big boss
@Soupxz
@Soupxz 6 жыл бұрын
They don’t because venom snake is not a clone but he’s a medic that saved solid snake from a crash and then while in a coma he was trained to have the memories and expertise of solid snake using virtual reality and then he and solid snake switched places with plastic surgery
@vivimusjenos8174
@vivimusjenos8174 6 жыл бұрын
Solidus lost his eye in sons of liberty, big boss lost his way before that.
@azeefox
@azeefox 7 жыл бұрын
i think u need to replay metal gear 4
@rafal888g
@rafal888g 6 жыл бұрын
Or Metal Gear Solid V
@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt
@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt 5 жыл бұрын
Or METAL GEAR MSX
@VenomPichu
@VenomPichu 7 жыл бұрын
Good reasons. However, I do not think Solidus is Venom. Why? Well, if I had to guess, Solidus might be a Venom clone. Similar to how (correct me if I'm wrong) Solid and Liquid are clones of Big Boss. This is only me, if you still think to this very day Solidus is Venom, I cool with it. You believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want. EDIT ON MAY 12 2018: I know this may sound funny to go back to this video after about 5 months of my comment, but there's a few more things to be said about how I still doubt Venom's Solidus. 1. Where's his shrapnel? At the start of Phantom Pain, the doctor said that if they were to try and remove the shrapnel from Venom's skull and heart, he'll die. 2. Venom wears an eye patch on his right eye. For Solidus, he wears his eye patch on his left eye. Venom can't see from his right eye, why would he swap it if he really is Solidus? 3. Venom died in the very first Metal Gear way back on the NES. Outer Heaven blew up at the end of the game with him inside after his loss to Solid. I bet Venom blew up to smithereens, no way he's returning from the dead. He's long gone.
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 7 жыл бұрын
peace
@ItsSpecialHands
@ItsSpecialHands 3 жыл бұрын
One reason he isn't He's not a fucking clone of Big Boss and Solidus is.
@MogusMasterSaikawa22
@MogusMasterSaikawa22 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you put a video together even if I disagree obviously XD
@reeltimewjoe1309
@reeltimewjoe1309 4 жыл бұрын
VSnake is the medic from GZ and the Big Boss fought in the original Metal Gear and who died in Outer Heaven (aka Operation Intrude N313). Solidus IS a perfect clone of Big Boss (as you stated was mentioned in MGS4), but was cloned by The Patriots with the perfect balance of dominant and recessive genes, unlike the Twins who we know had “inferior/superior” genetic differences, but Solidus is counted still as a third Son of Big Boss from the Les Enfants Terribles project. And it’s established already that he has extensive knowledge of Arsenal and RAY in MGS2, so I think we can assume it includes how to defeat them, and we know he can succeed because, again, he has the genes of Big Boss. Additionally, we know he was with Raiden in the ‘80s in Liberia when he became his godfather. Moreover, though, the purpose of the Phantom Pain reveal is to close the circle of the story while explaining how Big Boss “came back to life” in Metal Gear: Solid Snake while also mirroring the ongoing theme of 2 Snakes in the MG Solid series with 2 Big Bosses as well.
@hissnakeissolid2827
@hissnakeissolid2827 7 жыл бұрын
Cool idea, but it is nearly impossible for this to be real
@tellywatkins7779
@tellywatkins7779 5 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping this was a joke man
@Trid3nt861
@Trid3nt861 7 жыл бұрын
Actually the "Big boss" that was in TPP is in fact the medic who was taken to a secluded hospital in Cyprus by Zero to get reconstructive plastic surgery as to make the patriots and Skull Face focus their attention on him and Zero... All while the real Big Boss went and created Outer Heaven in ZanzibarLand. In the true ending it wasn't Big Boss who got severely injured in the face and had pieces of shrapnel lodged in his upper left forhead... that was the Medic (who lost his left arm after the emergency surgery). Even the video tape that Venom gets in the end when played is the real big boss who tells him "You and I are the same, you are Big Boss and so am I" . After TPP Big boss sends in Solid Snake (his clone son) in MG1 (MSX) to infiltrate the base and do rescuing of Gray Fox and later on to die at the hands of Venom Snake (Big Boss also wanted Venom out of the picture since he feared Venom/Medic was becoming too much a threat with the nukes and large military he amassed). Big Boss faces you in MG2 Solid Snake. Solidus at the time was probably in the government training a young Raiden.
@commando7238
@commando7238 5 жыл бұрын
@Fivegrain 518 the thing is solidus would look like a mix of portable Ops and Snake Eater big boss around the time of metal gear so no white and or gray hair and especially there will be lore problem cuz at the time when the phantom pain was happening solidus was in Liberia and he was around the same age of Eli and what doesn't help is when the whole fall of MSF happened all the Clones were infants and these are just some of the reasons that would shoot down this theory
@ryder9562
@ryder9562 4 жыл бұрын
But the cloning thing happened in 1972 so that basically discounts any possible way solidus being venom
@Americansikkunt
@Americansikkunt 3 жыл бұрын
@Fivegrain 518 Solid Snake has Big Bosses’ recessive genes. Liquid had the dominant genes. Solidus has a “perfect” balance of Bug Boss’ genes...
@vic101roman
@vic101roman 2 жыл бұрын
Venom Snake is literally Big Boss from MG1. Then the true Big Boss is in MG2
@Nhileishere
@Nhileishere 7 жыл бұрын
The sneaking suit definitely reminded me of solidus, I'd really like this all to be a thing because it'd be hella awesome. He also ages faster than the other brothers. Its just that shrapnel..
@PorkOrb2
@PorkOrb2 3 жыл бұрын
Dude he was the final clone of big boss, and was the last born of Les Enfants, he was like 5-10 during mgs5
@serioushamster
@serioushamster 6 жыл бұрын
What I don't get is that Solidus was ALSO leading a war in Africa in the 80s..That is where he met Raiden.WHat the hell were Big Boss( Venom and Naked Snake) doing at this time...the MGS story line has a few big plot holes in it.
@commando7238
@commando7238 5 жыл бұрын
Play the phantom pain you'll see what venom does and naked snake was somewhere else making Outer Haven
@serioushamster
@serioushamster 5 жыл бұрын
@@commando7238 I meant where were they in Africa when Solidus was also in Africa. Im sure the Big Bosses would have heard of someone like themselves in Africa.
@commando7238
@commando7238 5 жыл бұрын
@@serioushamster the thing is solidus is young when he was in Liberia either in his late teens or early twenties
@zachschulte8761
@zachschulte8761 7 жыл бұрын
Boi the boss is the medic....smh
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 7 жыл бұрын
if you belive some noname medic is the phantom bigboss i say: oh sure ^_o sry broi but i dont belive in that
@zachschulte8761
@zachschulte8761 7 жыл бұрын
SolidusCabal lol well it is one hell of a theory. too bad fucking konami didn't give kojima more time to explain this shit...
@zachschulte8761
@zachschulte8761 7 жыл бұрын
but the whole point is that the medic is us. BIG BOSS is us we created the legend as we played him.
@liamprice03
@liamprice03 7 жыл бұрын
SolidusCabal Ok, before you start pulling facts and theories out your ass, actually know what the ending means. It is suppose to be a way of Kojima saying thank you and showing how this was your story, something you don’t seem to grasp. Also that “no name medic” is described by Big Boss himself “as one of his best men”. Considering how in both GZ and TPP you have the shrapnel in the medics head during the crash. Smh this theory is absolute bullshit, it’s even worse than the “gray fox is Venom”
@justskely2057
@justskely2057 6 жыл бұрын
Ye,you're right
@rudybyars1802
@rudybyars1802 2 жыл бұрын
They literally said that the medic was Big Boss doppelgänger. Also he was born/created with liquid and solid snake.
@barryh.5409
@barryh.5409 6 жыл бұрын
Would you agree that solidus in MGS2 also appears in some shots to have Venom's black horn.
@rdxricky4580
@rdxricky4580 6 жыл бұрын
Did you play episode 46?
@Mukation
@Mukation 6 жыл бұрын
I have has this personal belief that Solidus could have been Big Boss's phantom. Since Zero made him as another Big Boss, his DNA could also have been an accepted code for The Patriots. And it would also explain why he was much older (looking) than Solid Snake in mgs2. Because he WAS older. It would also have made Ocelot's betrayal in MGS 2 even deeper to Solidus. He was an interesting character, just as Liquid. Sadly, Kojima and Konami never finished the game and it sucks. The begining is awesome and when you start to reach the end you notice that the finished plot is rushed and then they litteraly just reuse a bunch of missions, but on a higher difficulty level to increase the runtime for the game.
@S.O.A_Zero
@S.O.A_Zero 2 жыл бұрын
Man, VSnake is a medic that had a facial operation to look like Big Boss. Solidus Snake is his exact clone, with his identical genes...
@safian1232
@safian1232 4 жыл бұрын
Venom snake died in metal gear 1 you have a boss fight with him, theres no way he is in mgs2 as they would have had history, there are a ton of reasons why your wrong about solidus being venom
@TheJigsaw1591
@TheJigsaw1591 3 ай бұрын
Only reason I disagree is because it would conflict with the fan comic "Last Day in Outer Heaven". Don't think I could accept any alternative
@kj-fr9qw
@kj-fr9qw Жыл бұрын
As liquid says at the end of the tanker chapter "just another clone of the old man"
@tommydevito8235
@tommydevito8235 4 жыл бұрын
Venom snake got killed by solid snake on the boat or Outer Haven and he was the paramedic before surgery unless some how the paramedic was solidus the whole time probably why he was the most loyal solider and he some how survived death from solid snake anything is possible because big boss survived being burned alive maybe they rebuilt Venom Snake and changing his memory but its highly unlikely.
@hackmedia7755
@hackmedia7755 Жыл бұрын
In Metal Gear 4 there were still 2 Big Bosses, one was abruptly killed before meeting with Solid and Zero at the end. In Metal Gear 4 we never really saw any backstory of what the heck Big Boss was doing the entire time.
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder Жыл бұрын
sleepin
@hackmedia7755
@hackmedia7755 Жыл бұрын
@@CabalisOrder not sleeping, the Big Boss that meets Solid at the end of 4, had to be up to something.
@Evets_03
@Evets_03 Жыл бұрын
In the fan comic retelling called The Silent War, Ishmael turns out to be Solidus
@garretttekampe9564
@garretttekampe9564 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the fact that venom is canonically the medic and was trained to think he was big boss proves he can't be solidus who is a perfect clone. Totally different.
@JB-ls5pq
@JB-ls5pq Жыл бұрын
Solidus was 37 at the time he took a sword to the spine on top of federal hall in 2009. That would make him about 12 or 13 during tpp.
@roymustang85
@roymustang85 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows the soundtrack in the video?
@realcyanparadox
@realcyanparadox 6 жыл бұрын
Roy Mustang "Fall" By Ross Budgen.
@ivanarrache4435
@ivanarrache4435 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't make sense, if Solid Snake and Liquid Snake are the elder child of Big Boss, than by the time of MGS5:TPP Solidus would be an 6-8 year old child, plus, if the blood test would have been 100% accurate considering that there siblings(as Liquid said in MGS1, they have the same genetic code when explaining to Solid why he's not worried about FoxDie).
@mrmlpvideogerman
@mrmlpvideogerman 3 жыл бұрын
Only Solidus was in Liberia at the time and trained child soldiers. In addition, solidus was born in 1972 so 3 years before MGS 5 GZ I know that Solidus ages faster but never ages that fast. In addition, until 2009 he had two functioning eyes. By the way, at the end of MGS 4, Solidus is not referred to as a phantom but as a clone, which is a huge difference. One last thing Venom Snake was born in 1932 and is 3 years older than Big Boss. So how can it be a clone of someone who didn't exist at the time of his birth?
@fahads.suliman5986
@fahads.suliman5986 7 жыл бұрын
I was hoping we were playing Solidus in TPP. Way better than a made up character. Medic Boss.
@Darkside-sj3mo
@Darkside-sj3mo 6 жыл бұрын
Fahad S.Suliman venom is not made up, if you played metal gear 1 or maybe 2 i forget but he was "big boss" in one of the two
@strayfox506
@strayfox506 6 жыл бұрын
Darkside It was not made up when they made Metal Gear 1 and 2. They still could've had the Big Boss in MG1 be Solidus or Gray Fox somehow.
@Darkside-sj3mo
@Darkside-sj3mo 6 жыл бұрын
Stray Fox the timeline would be even worse
@Darkside-sj3mo
@Darkside-sj3mo 6 жыл бұрын
Stray Fox also the scars, eyepatch, shrapnel and arm don't add up
@Darkside-sj3mo
@Darkside-sj3mo 6 жыл бұрын
Stray Fox and fyi metal gear 1 and metal gear solid one are two different things, you would be surprised how many people don't know that
@jama4652
@jama4652 4 жыл бұрын
So that scene miller wasnt there at all miller is skullface he remembers taking his arm and leg
@RadinV1
@RadinV1 4 жыл бұрын
What drug are you on?
@ryder9562
@ryder9562 4 жыл бұрын
My dude it plainly says in the games that solidus is the 3rd clone of big boss
@laprator1869
@laprator1869 6 жыл бұрын
He isn't. He was the Big Boss from MGX. That's how they where 2 Big Bosses and the real one at the ending of MGS4
@bigbosssmiling7135
@bigbosssmiling7135 3 жыл бұрын
big boss said himself that solidus snake was the THIRD CLONE in mgs4, also, venom and eli don't have the same genetic code, and back to solidus being the third clone, he'd be eli's age by mgsv, not venom's
@mahmudchowdhury53
@mahmudchowdhury53 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know if Venom is Solidus but if true then it would explain the launch trailer for mgsV where Venom burns just like Solidus in mgs4
@JPhil1p
@JPhil1p 6 жыл бұрын
There's another reason why he's solidus snake, about the fragment that is in the head, it can be seen on his head of him in mgs2
@tomasbar1101
@tomasbar1101 6 жыл бұрын
NO! Venom snake is Chico
@u-due-faithlessness18
@u-due-faithlessness18 5 жыл бұрын
And solidus is quit
@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt
@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt 5 жыл бұрын
@@u-due-faithlessness18 and kaz is paz
@ayyitshmmm9607
@ayyitshmmm9607 4 жыл бұрын
Ik this vid is old, but venom isn’t solidus. Venom is the big boss clone that solid kills at the end of metal gear 1
@stevenjames8618
@stevenjames8618 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to say this man but there’s no way Venom is Solidus. It’s been in the canon that Venom is the Medic, and the he dies during Operation Intrude. It’s possible for them to be the same.
@indomiegorengtelorkornet
@indomiegorengtelorkornet Жыл бұрын
24 yrs in phantom pain? Minus 9 years, he would be 15 during peace walker. That's just not right.
@TinoMallorKing
@TinoMallorKing 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know... Can't be the same, because the patch is on the opposite eye to Solidus. And it's a very recent game to be a mistake. But who knows, you could be right! In MGS4 were looking for Big Boss body and found Solidus' but the dead eye strikes again... Just I don't know... F*king Kojima and his not clear stories
@billwilson6248
@billwilson6248 3 жыл бұрын
Solidus being a memetic clone, implanted with Big Boss' memories instead of his genes, is a pretty cool idea, but why would Patriots entrust the US Presidency to the instigator of the Outer Heaven Uprising?
@Welther47
@Welther47 4 жыл бұрын
It's all very well and good, but you are forgetting one simple thing, Solidus was created after Snake & Liquid. The third clone to balance the genes of Big Boss. Vermon Snake was made just made for MGS5.
@josephcruz6616
@josephcruz6616 4 жыл бұрын
I still dont understand the Snakes, but what i could understand is that MGS5 takes place before MGS1 and what information i could gather was that Venom Snake dies by the hand of Solid Snake in MGS1
@m0mmah_rio101
@m0mmah_rio101 6 жыл бұрын
Venom is everyone
@darkseeker102
@darkseeker102 6 жыл бұрын
I like to think solid and liquid was first trail and then solidus was the finish. While tech seem to explode in few years in mgs universe military wise mostly feel like raiden was some of the first of body modification. but it really be funny for solidus to get a new eye just to lose a eye again. I also like to think that random medic guy is example of big boss training and ideology and that you don't need to be clone raiden to a good example before he went cyborg he was very good soilder above normal ones. I solidus I believe was a 100% match to big boss to so Eli would of bin showen as clone
@JB-ls5pq
@JB-ls5pq Жыл бұрын
Very good was un understatement, he was damn near superhuman , defeating all the tengu solders, deflecting machinegunfire with his sword, defeating multiple mg ray units , defeating vamp, i prefered him prior to becoming a depressed cyborg in mgs4
@AquaFan1998
@AquaFan1998 5 жыл бұрын
No plastic surgery just fast ageing clone with implanted memorys
@kylehollenbaugh3464
@kylehollenbaugh3464 7 жыл бұрын
I mean he's missing the wrong eye
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 7 жыл бұрын
sure, but he got all the technology to recover
@NosferatuSpider
@NosferatuSpider 5 жыл бұрын
SolidusCabal then why did he have an eyepatch for most of the game
@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt
@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt 5 жыл бұрын
Ya solid shot it if he had this technology back in 84 surely he could easily fix it in mgs2
@wildbill1775
@wildbill1775 4 жыл бұрын
After mgs5 with the timeline going all the way back to the original.. the first metal gear game when you think you kill big boss that was actually venom snake. So this video is false. Liquid and Solid were clones, but Solidus was the 3rd and considered the perfect clone from Big Boss. Venom Snake was long dead before this timeline of Solidus
@phantomassassin7218
@phantomassassin7218 7 жыл бұрын
Solidus' eye patch is on the left venoms is on his right
@Ace-jz3lc
@Ace-jz3lc 7 жыл бұрын
Phantom assassin ikr
@earlycuyler2295
@earlycuyler2295 7 ай бұрын
Chico is solidus?
@danielrobles5906
@danielrobles5906 6 жыл бұрын
Very well then... The crash in Ground Zeroes took place in 1975. Solidus was only a baby/kid when this happened. Thus, this 5 reasons are totally wrong
@-pROvAK
@-pROvAK 2 жыл бұрын
Venom Snake is absolutely not Solidus, the reasoning presented here is beyond grasping at straws
@midwayhime4750
@midwayhime4750 4 жыл бұрын
Background music name pls
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Ross Bugden - Fall
@mohamud.l.ghazal2346
@mohamud.l.ghazal2346 5 жыл бұрын
Mgs Is all about double or triple crossing so venom snake is alive probably
@fahads.suliman5986
@fahads.suliman5986 6 жыл бұрын
99.9% of hardcore fans believed it was Solidus even before the shitty ending. Kojima and Konami wanted to cut spending so instead of going with a script and a good actor, they made a mute medic..
@commando7238
@commando7238 5 жыл бұрын
This wasn't Kojima's plain it was Konami who did that and the whole medic thing was planned from Ground Zeroes the medic was not a mute he even had more voice lines but sadly Konami made alot of cut content just so they can rush the game before the deadline and when did hardcore fans say that you're playing as solidus the only time I seen somebody say that it was instantly shot down the only two theories that popped up was its naked snake you play as or this dumb theory that venom snake is gray fox
@CarlosDaniel-oz3nt
@CarlosDaniel-oz3nt 5 жыл бұрын
Great quality video, congrats. +1 subscriber.
@nmartell1007
@nmartell1007 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a dumb theory video since its proven in canon hes not solidus. So idk what pipe dream this is coming from
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Zanarkand ^^
@RecardoRecardo
@RecardoRecardo Жыл бұрын
Solidus is a clone of big boss brother of liquid and solid
@agentt657
@agentt657 3 жыл бұрын
ahhhh somebody wasnt paying attention while playing these games 😬
@InGodshands7
@InGodshands7 6 жыл бұрын
No he’s not, he’d be just as of as Eli(LIQUID)
@varunbhatt8215
@varunbhatt8215 2 жыл бұрын
Nice theory i respect your point but I'd doesn't make sense for me
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@Agm1995gamer
@Agm1995gamer 6 жыл бұрын
What if solidus is venom's clone.
@rafal888g
@rafal888g 6 жыл бұрын
One reason you why solidus is not phantom or venom snake. Venom snake died in Metal Gear, Solid Snake kill him.
@JLUSTER05098
@JLUSTER05098 4 жыл бұрын
Venom snake is killed by solid snake in original metal gear at outer heaven base he was a doppelganger not a clone Facial reconstructive surgery. And brainwashing to implant the will of big boss.
@juustohoyla666
@juustohoyla666 5 жыл бұрын
No because big boss was killed by snake 2 times and they just made him. Tp be the other one
@chingyang6921
@chingyang6921 6 жыл бұрын
No. Venom snake is not solidus snake. Stop with these conspiracy theory misinformation
@liskeke
@liskeke 4 жыл бұрын
where do you buy your weed from?
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Nederlandse :D
@jvmbii1627
@jvmbii1627 6 жыл бұрын
SOLIDUS IS HIS CLONED SON
@thelad9776
@thelad9776 6 жыл бұрын
TF this guy on lololololololololol
@willscorner8423
@willscorner8423 Жыл бұрын
This is nonsense. Wrong eye gone, Eli and Venom Snake don’t share DNA, Venom Snake got killed by Solid Snake.
@cypher7898
@cypher7898 6 жыл бұрын
Solidus i think was born way after tpp
@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt
@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt 5 жыл бұрын
No 1972 but then venom would be 13 but venom is 52
@BloodWolfFire
@BloodWolfFire 6 жыл бұрын
solidus was in the libiria civil was in the 80's venom snake was not
@abigmonster8457
@abigmonster8457 2 жыл бұрын
I cant tell if this is trolling or sheer delusion.
@alstef09
@alstef09 6 жыл бұрын
Wait Solidus Have patch On his right While venom have a Left Eyepatch If His Solid He Should'nt have just a one eye but no eyes
@emobrandemo1598
@emobrandemo1598 6 жыл бұрын
The people who think Venom Snake is Solidus are just idiots you guys do know Solidus would be a boy at this point just like his brothers right?
@Lenterraz
@Lenterraz 6 жыл бұрын
IKR venom is the medic out of ground zeros so are we the only people who actually listen to the story?
@romalovepeaceful83
@romalovepeaceful83 6 жыл бұрын
Brandon Maclean every One has their own opinion. They are not idoits. 👍
@commando7238
@commando7238 5 жыл бұрын
@@romalovepeaceful83 that's not really an opinion tho basic common sense and knowledge of the lore will tell you yeah this video makes no damn sense
@romalovepeaceful83
@romalovepeaceful83 5 жыл бұрын
@@commando7238 everyone has right to think of their own. You know you can t just judge them that they r being an idiot some of them might be smarter who knows? My opinion I don't like some people insulting others. Beside this is just a game don't need to be a jerk just give them explanation.
@commando7238
@commando7238 5 жыл бұрын
@@romalovepeaceful83 but this is the internet everybody's going to say something it may be nice and it may not humans for years argue and insult each other over the dumbest or reasonable thing its our own rules of nature it doesn't matter if it's a video game or not it could be a fan of football or a TV show they're going to say something if somebody with not to much knowledge comes in and says something like they know what they're doing
@fahads.suliman5986
@fahads.suliman5986 4 жыл бұрын
IT SHOULDVE BEEN HIM. But oh well, let’s screw things up said BOTH Konami and Kojima. I don’t care about that lame excuse “Snake is the player’s alter ego” it’s complete nonsense.
@emm4249
@emm4249 6 жыл бұрын
This theory makes really no fucking sense
@commando7238
@commando7238 5 жыл бұрын
This is the dumbest Metal Gear Solid Theory I've ever seen one have you ever played Metal Gear Solid Snake kills Venom with a rocket launcher two Solidus was a young man in the 80s around the age of either Eli or bit older he was in Liberia and 3 Solidus was born in the early 70s so he would be like 1 or 3 years old when MSF was around
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 5 жыл бұрын
Solid kills Venom is also a Fan Theory ... before MGSV ppl said BigBoss survived
@commando7238
@commando7238 5 жыл бұрын
@@CabalisOrder it was confirmed that venom died in mg
@breiker1994
@breiker1994 3 жыл бұрын
@@CabalisOrder kinda like this video is fan theory?
@courtlandjones4712
@courtlandjones4712 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha you cant be serious....wait you are...solidus dies in MGS2 sons of liberty. He is the perfect clone of big boss and has the same genetic code of him. They use solidus body in 4. his body was stolen by EVA to make a dummy version of big boss. Hence the body on the boat that sunk. And besides venom snake is in metal gear, metal gear 2 solid snake as "Big boss" of outer heaven. Which solid snake was sent in as an simulation type deal to kill Venom snake and to see if outer heaven was penatrable. Also you calculated what!? How tf do you come up with those numbers my guy?? 2.03 solidus years??? So you're telling me he ages by 2 every year? You're whack my man. His age was a fail safe made by the Patriots. The Patriots made him have "fast aging" basically the same thing Solid snake has in 4.
@CabalisOrder
@CabalisOrder 5 жыл бұрын
never again call the bigboss a bug ...
@courtlandjones4712
@courtlandjones4712 5 жыл бұрын
It was a typo my guy
@taskforcekillah9722
@taskforcekillah9722 2 жыл бұрын
Cap
@seantheguy1391
@seantheguy1391 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@TheOther644
@TheOther644 4 жыл бұрын
I love Solidus and wish they'd bring him back, I haven't play the last 3 games I don't think Venom is him but it would be sweet. Also I heard this game you find out at the end that the whole time you were never even playing Solid? In Guns of the Patriots I'm glad they changed that whole Patriots are some kinda alien thing in Sons of Liberty, but sadly it was a kick in the teeth that they showed Solidus' body and destroyed it, and the whole Liquid arm thing with Ocelot was bull 😒
@somerandommexican5681
@somerandommexican5681 Жыл бұрын
Actually for the ending of the game, it's revealed that venom is not big boss. not solid.
@TheOther644
@TheOther644 Жыл бұрын
@@somerandommexican5681 I remember in Guns of the Patriots it was revealed to be Solidus in the bag they burned and was using him a parts for Big Boss. If it is said otherwise in a later game then cool.
@arctorusmedia
@arctorusmedia 2 жыл бұрын
n...no.
@thomaskaaz1
@thomaskaaz1 6 жыл бұрын
There's a million facts in the game that prove you wrong. You should delete this video.
@liquidocelot6294
@liquidocelot6294 5 жыл бұрын
As cool as this theory is there is a couple of problems with your Theory solidus snake doesn’t have a piece of shrapnel sticking out of his head and venom does and he’s all scarred up And Solidus Lost his eye in Metal gear solid two sons of liberty which takes place after Outer heaven and the phantom pain years before those events And plus wasn’t Solidus Forcing children to go to war back in the 80s so as cool as your theory is dude it doesn’t add up
@rdxricky4580
@rdxricky4580 6 жыл бұрын
Venom snake is dead
@vinagrextravirgem500
@vinagrextravirgem500 Жыл бұрын
Naked snakw 🥶🥶🥶
@viniciuscunhacoelho
@viniciuscunhacoelho 3 жыл бұрын
This is, with no doubt, the worst theory that i have ever heard
@lewylewy2483
@lewylewy2483 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree with your video
@Martinlavell
@Martinlavell 4 жыл бұрын
So wrong. Somebody doesn't know the lore. Go back and do your homework.
@homelesstvh7737
@homelesstvh7737 5 жыл бұрын
False and cringe
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