MHMD [13] Do John of Damascus & the Chinese know more about the MHMDs?

Mel, along with A.J. Deuss continue their search for the MHMDs of the 7th century, and this time they look to the writings of John of Damascus, the Christian theologian, who was working in the Caliphal courts of the Umayyads in Damascus in the late 7th and early 8th centuries. Therefore, he was right at the center of anything that was going on in that period and in the place.
In his treatise called "The Heresies of the Ishmaelites", written in 730 AD, John writes, "And so down to the time of Heraclius they were very great idolaters. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst". But what is he referring to when he says "From that time to the present"?
Obviously, he is referring to the time of Heraclius, who was the Byzantine emperor from 610 - 641 AD until John's present time, which would have been 730 AD. So, he is talking about roughly a 100 year period.
But, how could one prophet named Muhammad have lived for over a century? That makes no sense, unless he is being careful to insinuate something that he dare not say openly, due to where he was working, and amongst whom he was writing...in other words amongst the Muslims of the courts of the caliph there in Damascus. Possibly therefore, he was referring to a string of prophets named MHMD, who lived in that time period.
To better understand what he was possibly referring to, we need to turn to another source, the Chinese, who had constant contact with the Arabs of the Tayaye, or those from Iraq, who then later became the Muslims we know today during the later Abbasid period.
The Chinese were not under anyone's authority, and so had the freedom to write what they saw as they went back-and-forth between China and the Arabs of Iraq, where the Abbasid capital (the present day Baghdad) was located.
Envoys of the Tayaye (from Iraq) gave information to Jiu Tang Shu, who was in the Chinese courts between the years 756 - 758 AD, so at the beginning of the Abbasid caliphat; ,and they said this:
"There were eleven Persians [Farisis] who came and, according to their rank as mo-shou
[or Messiahs], were transformed into kings. After this the masses gradually gave their allegiance, and subsequently Persia was extinguished and Byzantium (Fulin) was crushed...” (taken from: Jiu Tang Shu, Volume 198, Biographies 148: Western Regions, Section Da-Shi [Tayaye]).
So, essentially this envoy was referring to 11 Pharisee Messiahs (i.e. Jewish Messiahs) who took allegiance from their people in Iraq, suggesting that each of these rulers since the time of Heraclius took on the title of Messiah, which we now know is synonymous with the title 'MHMD'.
John of Damascus couldn't say this, due to where he lived, but the Chinese, who weren't under any Arab jurisdiction had the freedom to tell us what exactly was going on there in the 7th - 8th centuries, and in that part of the world.
It looked like there were a succession of Muhammads who lived at that time and in that area, but who were they, and where can we find out about them...that's the subject of our next episode, so stay tuned...
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[@richardmacarthur7662]

False prophet and false messiah. Makes sense. We were warned

[@channelone3773G]

The New Testament jesus in the Light of Old Testament is an impostor.... The Book of Revelations is Based on an Anonymous Person's Dream, And in His Dream He saw (A Polycephaly) Multiple Heads Animal with Horns in and Horns out, Most probably that Dream occurred because of His excessive Eating 🍖🥩🥓🌭 and Drinking 🍺🍷🍾🍻🍸 .. How could christians Rely on such a Dream ?????

[@AICW]

"The Chinese were not under anyone's authority" Fascinating how this is still true today.

[@Raj-et7oj]

True. They are a very advanced civilization.

[@ConradThePalamite]

Keep up the good work Jay👍👌, wish you still went to speakers corner, we all have great respect for you there 💯💯

[@chrishoff402]

If the first 12 leaders of the Arab Empire were all called by the title Mohammed and looked upon as Messiah it might explain why it's written in one Islamic source that the ruler of an Islamic nation has the power of abrogation.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

Where is his evidence?🥴🤣 I can make all sorts of wild claims. These Christians demand evidence from everyone. They never provide evidence for their non academic position driven by their Christian inferiority complex.

[@IslamicOrigins]

Good observation. Abrogation only makes sense with changing leaders.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@IslamicOrigins The old covenant is not the same leader as the new covenant? These are two different leaders?🥴🤥

[@aleksakovacevic3350]

@@AlonzoHarris235 that’s not even a false comparison just a ridiculously bad one

[@aliij2538]

​@@AlonzoHarris235 the new new covenant is breastfeeding men. Take-a-beer 😂😂😂 Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.” Grade: Hasan (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 1944

[@Basaljet]

Good stuff when Mel and Jay work together. Mel’s material is so comprehensive and complex that it needs Jays simple commentary (tafsir) to keep the listener on course. It is especially good to see a catholic mind cooperating with an evangelical mind to evaluate patristics material such as John of Damascus. And we know what St John Henry Newman says about that pathway…!

[@SzTz100]

Christianity doesn't exist either, none of these religions do.

[@fellowtraveller1071]

What's Thomas Alexander up to these days? Did he write a book in the end? I haven't seen any new videos from him for a while. Anyway, I always suspected that MHMDwas a title adapted by the first caliphs, rather like Caesar by the Roman emperors. Just my pet theory.

[@cavalier2097]

I also wonder about that @TAlexander

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

The greatest Man in history, had no servants, yet they called Him master. Had no degree, yet they called Him teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is JESUS the CHRIST, (Yeshua Ha Mashiach). Do you know Him? To everyone reading this keep asking, keep seeking and keep knocking as we're told to do. Pray, study, pray and as promised more will be given you. Please do not be one of those who has even the little they have taken away for lack of discernment found only in His Word.

[@CosmopolitanXMan]

No-one can be like that unless he is GOD.

[@batteleyyachtlife9957]

Amen❤

[@user-xu1hn3ic6b]

I think this makes yeshua ha masiac as the greatest man ever lived not Mohamed. Can you attempt to compare why Muslims claim mohamed vs Jesus who is greatest

[@AlonzoHarris235]

He is a man now? 🤣 Typical Christians will say whatever it suits them in circumstances. Did your Jesus command numbers 31:17 in trinitarian theology?

[@zealotChristians]

The Son of God versus the sthufhi!d bh@$th@rd from Arrh@b, the Arab's idol.

[@ekwuojoidakwo8441]

Wonderful. Please some of us want to hear about Hatun Tash's well being, Dr. Smith.

[@garybowings1538]

Google "Hatun Tash"

[@SzTz100]

She's seeing a Psychiatrist, but the prognosis is she's possibly a looney tune. We wish her well.

[@garybowings1538]

@SzTz100 Muhammad wears women's underwear but other than that he's fine.

[@mysotiras21]

Excellent historical data, so damaging the SIN! Thanks.

[@ailove313]

I can't wait for the next episode .

[@PerpetualPreponderer]

The Umayyads were originally Christians, the thought to be lost Nazarenes / Ebionites. They were tortured and persecuted by the church like crazy. But somehow, the truth always survives. Between the relative extremes of Islam as well as Catholicism, it is the Nazarene creed, theology, lifestyle & teachings that form the harmonious balance between them. The aphorisms those saints created, which can be found in some parts of the Quran when read in conjunction with guidance from The Syro-Aramaic reading of the Quran, are among the most beautiful, potent prayers I have encountered in my survey of world religions thus far. They are like verses from psalms & proverbs, when they are recited, one feels in one’s heart their origin in Divinity. This is brilliant work by both Mel & Jay. The truth is becoming clearer and clearer with each passing day, hallelujah

[@Stardust475]

Watch Red Judaism on Quran's origins. And 7thc Islam, not Ebionites as author of Quran, believes in virgin birth.

[@channelone3773G]

The New Testament jesus in the Light of Old Testament is an impostor.... The Book of Revelations is Based on an Anonymous Person's Dream, And in His Dream He saw (A Polycephaly) Multiple Heads Animal with Horns in and Horns out, Most probably that Dream occurred because of His excessive Eating 🍖🥩🥓🌭 and Drinking 🍺🍷🍾🍻🍸 .. How could christians Rely on such a Dream ?????

[@bluestar2253]

Love this channel! This channel needs to go viral!

[@SzTz100]

In acidaemia they might lough.

[@truefaith4200]

Excellent proofs. Thanks for your hard work🙏 God bless you all🙏

[@pauljansentextor1788lx]

This is great to hear!

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

I can’t believe how I was not able to relate Pharisee to Farisi, when it is known that Abram made his journey from this region of Iran - Iraq all the way to the Holy Land. Not sure if this same word relates also to FARIS meaning in Arabic the one who rides horses. Definition of the word PHARISEE a member of an ancient Jewish sect, distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity. Seems like the term has been transmitted from generations to generations.

[@monicacruz85]

Yes, & these people are the ones our Lord called a den of vipers. The seed of satan… or synagogue of Satan. Those who say they are Jews but are not. They persecuted the people of Yah. & they went on to infiltrate every people groups.

[@daiqingyuan8451]

大食 in middle Chinese is not pronounced as Da-Shi in modern Chinese, but Ta-ye, which is a close transliteration of Tayeye. Similarly, 俱份莫地那was pronounced as Jufen-modina, but Khufan-medina, Kufa city.

[@IslamicOrigins]

Thank you so much! This is hugely helpful. This will open up a lot of possibilities. 🙏

[@martinjackman2943]

@@IslamicOrigins Wow! Watching things like this happening in real time ! you need to contact other bona fide Chinese scholars.. I bet they have even more nuggets like this..

[@IslamicOrigins]

@@martinjackman2943 My big hope is that there is another Chinese record somewhere that only chinese historians know about and that haven't been publicised: that could hold the key.

[@xavierbesnard9201]

Good work !

[@saloanyousif3308]

A good video. Thanks

[@SzTz100]

It was ok, nothing special.

[@Primero.Christ]

What Jesus said happened: What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs."(Luke 12:3)

[@SzTz100]

A bit cheesy.

[@channelone3773G]

The New Testament jesus in the Light of Old Testament is an impostor.... The Book of Revelations is Based on an Anonymous Person's Dream, And in His Dream He saw (A Polycephaly) Multiple Heads Animal with Horns in and Horns out, Most probably that Dream occurred because of His excessive Eating 🍖🥩🥓🌭 and Drinking 🍺🍷🍾🍻🍸 .. How could christians Rely on such a Dream ?????

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Mo-shou is maybe like Moshe/Moses also. In arabic the root for Musa is MSY.

[@SzTz100]

Nothing like amateur history.

[@ibtisamafram1069]

We christian in syria call the muslem tayaye "aramiac"

[@sirunikunushik7735]

what tayaye means?

[@TingTong2568]

@@sirunikunushik7735 Al Tayyi

[@yakovmatityahu]

Are you Syrian Christian????

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

Dies it have any meaning? Does the origin of the word goes back to Persia?

[@SzTz100]

@@yakovmatityahu Isn't that what he wrote.

[@janelowe524]

Very interesting

[@seanmacsweeney2985]

John of Damascus could be referring to a false prophet in 610, but the same false prophet is still being referenced in the 730’s

[@NostalgieFreak]

Maybe "to the present" in that context means the presence of Muhammad in the believe system of the new faith.

[@Louis.R]

It has to be a chain of , either: - Jewish Exilarchs or Exilarch claimants; - Edomean-Ishmaelite Political Leaders from the House of David (Nasrids, Lakhmids, Hashimites) The Jews have different types of messiah - the temporal and political: are _Messiah ben David,_ and the spiritual and supernatural: _Messiah ben Joseph._

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

Mel you need to consult with people who know Aramaic / Syriac and others who know Persian, and also people who know Hebrew to get to the origin of the terms.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

What’s the earliest Syriac and Hebrew dictionary?🤥 How do you know meanings of words?

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

@@AlonzoHarris235 Must be way earlier than the Arab dictionary!

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@user-pk2ol8qv2y Are you sure? Prove it. What’s the earliest Syriac dictionary? What’s the earliest Hebrew dictionary? What is the name and from which century. You will be shocked.

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

@@AlonzoHarris235 What is the date of the earliest Arabic dictionary? What are the earliest so-called “Arabic” manuscripts of the Quran? Were they dotted? (i.e) did they have the dots on their letters? No! Do they comply with our Quran today? No! Are the additions of the dots not considered additions and alterations of the original text of the Quran? Yes! Do we still have even today two (or more) DIFFERENT Qurans? Quran Hafs and Quran Warsh? Yes! Did Calif Uthman burn the different Qurans at his time? Yes! Did a goat eat verses from the Quran as reported by Aisha and others? Yes! Does the (Quran) standard narrative has holes in it. Yes! Blackholes! Etc. … We need to be realistic.

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

@user-pk2ol8qv2y, Alonzo thinks Arabic is 10,000 years old. I wish I was kidding.

[@susilartosiswomartono9550]

Jay, I am wondering are there any comments from Western Accademia regarding these material?

[@SzTz100]

No, they're too busy laughing.

[@rosstemple7617]

Makes more sense that they had 630k “words” of the prophet Mo(SBUH)

[@cavalier2097]

@PfanderFilms @IslamicOrigins which version of the Quran do the Chinese use? New and old version

[@theoarsman1]

There is a substratum of material which predates Islam and points to the Himyarites as the early source for the Quran.

[@chuckcoleman6502]

Are the Chinese words being pronounced in modern Mandarin? While there is no standard reconstruction, the period corresponds to Middle Chinese. Looking at how these characters were pronounced in Early Middle Chinese can give further insight. For example, Dashi (which sounds more like ta-sher in Modern Standard Mandarin) may have an even closer similarity to Tayaye.

[@HamzaBaqoushi]

_Yohanna ibn Sarjoon ibn Mansoor al-Taghlibi_ , aka Saint John of Damascus, is the father of the musical system used in eastern churches litugical chant, the secular arab music and Quranic recitation as well. He and his father worked as scribes for Moawiyah and his son Yazeed, the 6th and 7th caliphes of Islam. Yazeed mother, Maysoon bint Bahdal, was a Taghlibi Arab Christian noble woman. The Taghlib tribe they both belonged to is related to Bakr tribe, many of them were nestorian christians, merged to make the tribe Aniza, which is the tribal confederation to which belong the Saudi royal family, the Emirs of Kowait and Bahrain, Saddam Hussain, and Mu'ammar Gaddafi.

[@doctorlyon]

Daniel (in Babylon) Mene mene tekel upharsin, (peres) same word??

[@mysotiras21]

Probably not. Daniel gave the interpretation in chapter 5:25.

[@garybowings1538]

"Alonzo Harris" believes in three gods.

[@martinjackman2943]

😅..Distraction Deception and Deflection Jay Smith's voice echoes rent free around his empty head..

[@ricksonora6656]

Who?

[@garybowings1538]

@@ricksonora6656 "Alonzo Harris."

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

He believes in an eternal uncreated allah and an eternal uncreated quran.

[@garybowings1538]

@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 Lol, what year did they finally decide that the Qur’an was uncreated and eternal and by who?

[@vironpayne3405]

Are there not any known western european sources that can add light? The chinese sources is great, but another christian or non-christian source from europe could be of great value in solidifying the argument putforth.

[@allanrobis777]

Good stuff indeed... serious problem for islam

[@SzTz100]

All religions have a serious problem, they were designed to be a brain virus.

[@wmarkfish]

It is more likely “to the present” could still to this day mean the single false prophet’s influence reigns.

[@leechrec]

St. John knew Islam was effed up

[@SzTz100]

He probably knew his one was effed up as well, but didn't want to write about it.

[@leechrec]

@@SzTz100 Nah, Islam is the most effed up ideology in the world. Muhammad (Police Be Upon Him) was a total ass.

[@anderslvolljohansen1556]

The article "a" implies a single false prophet. I wouldn't draw any solid conclusion on what he really meant from a translation. Perhaps he meant the appearance as a concluded event within that period. I.e. that the false prophet finished appearing sometime during that period.

[@davidabramovichkosciuszko4216]

👍

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

The word Da-shi sounds too close to the Arabic word "داعشي" pronounced Da3shi. Note: Arabic is read from right to left. A Da3shi is a member of Da3sh ‎"داعش", the terrorist organization know as ISIS. The four Arabic letters of the word: ‎"داعش" ‎د ا ع ش TRANSLATED AS ISIS LITERALLY means Islamic State in Iraq and Syria

[@AlonzoHarris235]

These are western trained organisations for false flags.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

These are western groups. It is well know who trains and funds them.

[@MU-we8hz]

​@@AlonzoHarris235 1924 quran 😂

[@user-zv3vo7ei7g]

What did the Chinese say???

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Alonzo Harris seen the eclipse on Uranus.

[@traveleurope5756]

That report in the Chinese source was given in 650s not 750s

[@IslamicOrigins]

Well spotted. 652 if my memory is correct.

[@lennyleapsin5477]

I thought of ordering the book "Seeing Islam as Other Saw It" by Robert G Hoyland, but the price is US$287 (not cheap!). This book includes much of what John of Damascus wrote.

[@IslamicOrigins]

Pdfs can be found for free.

[@lennyleapsin5477]

Can you provide link or internet search address for free pdf? Thanx!!

[@IslamicOrigins]

@@lennyleapsin5477 put seeing " islam as others saw it pdf" in Google and first entry is it..

[@robg8433]

Moohamid, Peas be opon him...👀👀🤔

[@mysotiras21]

Argh! Don't waste delicious, nutritious peas on Muhammad!

[@martinadams8877]

Jay please allow me to throw some light on a previous video from about one month ago referring to the 16th C Sufi's and the light of mohammed. To understand this you have to understand what the Christ is. There is a Gnostic Nag Hammadhi text called the Christos and Sophia which explains that the Christos is the ego/I am/ receptive intelligence of the Godhead. The energy creative energy radiating out from the godhead is the sacred feminine. A part of this, called Sophia, puts the whole of herself into the creation of the earth which sends her mad as earth creates uncontrollable life so the Christos leaves the godhead to unite with her and bring fertility and order to life on earth and therefore becomes the saviour (Greek; Jesus) Christos. It is this same Christos that entered the body of the man we call Jesus Christ when he was 30 yrs old. The same story can be found in India concerning Shiva, the I am of the Godhead, and the Shakti energy of which Parvati creates the earth needing Shiva to mate with her. The same story is found throughout the ancient world and is prevalent in Egypt in the coronation/resurrection of the king, his mating with the sacred feminine and giving birth to his own son the Horus, the spiritualised man (that is, himself resurrected). The Mohammed referred to in this story is the Christos itself. Thank you.

[@RAZR53-4]

Jay do you think that perhaps Islam got jealous of Christianity and the Jews? Then decided to create Islam’s version?

[@SzTz100]

They're all messed up.

[@joshuaharahap2227]

The real name of Muhammad is Mao Huh Mad was a Chinese, he said in hadith for muslim to come to China for a looking knowledge, Mao came from ancient China to the Middle East 🤠🤠

[@davidmcintosh3468]

I think that the jews turned the Messiah (or messiahs), into a very arbitrary term (eg, He didn't have to be God in the Flesh, walk on water, or raise the dead, or come 7*70 years after the command to rebuild the 2nd temple) Some rabbis would say that Messiah was the one "picked" by the rabbis. And I think that I remember looking up Manicheanism, that they thought that the "Son of God" was a spirit that could enter a man, then the man would become a "Messiah". Maybe this is another instance where the rabbis/pharisees grew more attached to their own political ambitions, and disengaged from the Bible, and started changing things according to the "power of their will"? So very interesting! Wonder if we will get into the Israeli Babylonian exile intrigue and wars with this? God bless you all! BTW: Commander of the Faithful, is a title for Jesus Christ out of the Old Testament

[@hotfun07]

We need to go back to Idolatory.

[@arulrajan1104]

The great news report😂-- OLD AND DEAD MUHAMMAD LIVED FOR A CENTURY AMAZING

[@michaelmooney7341]

Hard to fillow..whatbthere actually a islamic muhammed in the 7th century? Or what it a christian type of muhammed character? Its all confusing yl..Did muhammed even exist?

[@patnor7354]

That Chinese text is a great find. Pity most muslims won't listen.

[@umvhu]

MHMD is a totally meaningless collection of letters. What has happened to the ability to communicate?

[@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo]

ḤMD (Arabic: ح-م-د, Hebrew: ח-מ-ד) is the triconsonantal Semitic root of many Arabic and some Hebrew words. Many of those words are used as names. The basic meaning expressed by the root is "to praise" in Arabic and "to desire" in Hebrew, add the 'M' makes one of the many versions of Mohammed.

[@midimusicforever]

Did you know that Muhammad is mentioned in the Bible? Matthew 7:15!

[@AncientHebrewNeverDied]

😂😂😂 Naughty!

[@gkbaloch6185]

even Jay hemself is not convince.waching it just a waste of time

[@garybowings1538]

You came here little buddy. 😂

[@SzTz100]

@@garybowings1538 Normally their videos are good, but now they're clutching at straws. The opposite of academic work.

[@garybowings1538]

@@SzTz100 Never any details. Why? 😂

[@morghe321]

About John of Damascus, I've never understood how he could write that Muhammad was a false prophet. Was he ever in danger?

[@ricksonora6656]

Do you know where Damascus is? Who ruled that region during his time?

[@monajohnson3321]

John of Damascus also commented on suras from a book (quran) that were evil and blasphemous. Thats why he labled him false as many other false prophets that were there at that period.

[@morghe321]

​​@@ricksonora6656yes, of course I know, but how does it help me to ask me if I know where Damascus is and who ruled the region during his time? I think my question is relevant.

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

Good point. He was somehow protected as he was from a very noble family. He has even writings about his debates with this new rising sect members at that time and refuting them.

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

@@morghe321 Good point. He was somehow protected as he was from a very noble family. He has even writings about his debates with this new rising sect members at that time and refuting them.

[@maxschon7709]

Chain Of Muhammeds=Chain of Caesars

[@ozkanarrslan]

And final, whats difference between islam and cristianity, and which one is true, why? Which one is answer of basic question, enough basic, hey jay. I love maths, i see your so mamy videos, but just i want this question answer, enough basic, put your final. Is there any cristianity, you can reply also, whats question and whats answer, to speak years, there should be 1 question and 1 true answer, lets see. I wanna make 2 videos, 1 for atheists, more details of of 1 for cristians.

[@jojoagogo]

You would do good to wonder on why Allah says Jesus is his Word. O people of the Book, be not excessive in your Faith, and do not say about Allah anything but the truth. The Messiah ‘Jesus, the son of Mary, is only a Messenger of God, and His Word that He had delivered to Mary, and a spirit from Him [created at a command Quran 36:82 If the Word comes from the Mouth of God His Word you should heed. Reason yourself to hell or listen to the Word.

[@ozkanarrslan]

@@jojoagogo its little mixed, lets make it basic, whats question? Write it Question: ... ? A) answer of cristianity: ... B) answer of islam:... Which one is true, why? Fill in the blanks, after that, cristians and muslims can check, question, and answer, how is it. Please write it basic

[@jojoagogo]

@@ozkanarrslan I can but will not do so. I am a practicing living Catholic and reasoning the Truth of the divine mysteries as well as speaking in a way to put allah equal to Our Father in Heaven would shame the Holy Spirit in doing so. And would put me too close to unredeemable for comfort. I’ll be clear for you though. I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of His Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried. And the third day He rose again according to the Scriptures and ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father. And He will come again with glory to judge both the living and the dead, whose kingdom will have no end. And I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And I believe in one holy Catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins, and I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen. Peace of Christ be with you on your personal journey to the Truth of your Creator.

[@ozkanarrslan]

@@jojoagogo what you said, bible is basic, 5 years old child also can understand, but when i said you, whats question and answer, basic question and basic answer, you said this. I swear you, this your answer, not children not adults also professors can not understand when they read. Unfortunately, islam is basic, basic question basic answer, what you said, children can understand, yeap, islam it is. Creater is allah, muhammed is messenger, like jesus, moses, abraham etc basic you said, yea, islam is basic. Wellcome, you write name difference but you speak about islam, hope you can ask to maths profesors, whats mean of basic, child, etc or your mother language teachers, no need to ask muslims, just ask maths, language, or law professors. Hope you believe maths, because if you dont believe it, people will not give yiu rights to vote, signature etc rights. I wait you first to world and then in islam there is 1 rule, to speak about islam, you should have normal brain, when you said normal, alao children can understand, you should know whats mean of that. Islam is just for normal brain owners, not for crasy people. I wait you to take your dioloma from maths professors, about your brain level. More basic options, ask doctors, lawyers, maths and language professors, whats mean of father, son, daughter, sister, brother, mother, couzen, nephew, auncle, etc and i tell you, i am father of god, prove profesors, why i am not father of god, grandfather of jesus, Its more basic, its 3 years old level. I wait you, you have freedom to select in islam.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@jojoagogo That’s three gods.

[@SzTz100]

A bit far fetched.

[@IslamicOrigins]

A complete, fully informed culture in Mecca doesn't seem far fetched to you? :)

[@SzTz100]

@@IslamicOrigins Are you watching the same video, this video was not discussing Mecca. You were talking about John of D writing about one Mohammed but meaning multiple Mohammeds instead. I find it far-fetched that John of D would do that. There may have been multiple authors of the Quran, but it would be nice to find a source for this, not hyperbolae.

[@y.israel922]

Surely You people will find out the whole truth / down under ⚰️☠️/ it's waiting for you Good luck 🍀 Hellelujah 👿

[@mysotiras21]

We have the whole truth - Jesus Christ.

[@SzTz100]

@@mysotiras21 All religions are made up.

[@aaronmusa234]

today ends ramadan month. the benefits of this month of ramadan 1 all sins forgiven from past yr. no blood of innocent man on a cross required. 2 quran read in congregations worldwide start to finish. 3 fasting and heart benefits. 4 more god consciousness this month while fasting quran' fasting is prescribed for you as it was on those before you '

[@garybowings1538]

"Dear Broder: Today is Eid al-Fitr. We end our feast and tomorrow we go on diet to lose weight. Consumption of lots of food leads to farting. I always wonder what is the ruling of farting in a mosque. Is it prohibited or permissible?" - Bob Muh Answer: Waalaikumussalam wrm. wbt., Alhamdulillah, praise and thanks to Allah for the countless blessings He has blessed us all with. Blessings and salutations to the Prophet Muhammad URNBUH, his wives, his family, companions and all those that follow his teachings to the day of judgement. Mosque is a place of gathering for the Muslim ummah. Thus, it would surely involve the rights and manners between Muslims. Hence, there are numerous Quranic and prophetic evidences that explain the restrictions on actions that could disturb or cause discomfort for others. Among them is a hadith narrated by Anas bin Malik RA, he said the Prophet URNBUH said: الْبُصَاقُ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ خَطِيئَةٌ وَكَفَّارَتُهَا دَفْنُهَا “Spitting in the Masjid is a sin, and its expiation is to bury it.” Sunan al-Nasa’ie (723) Thus, we could see that the act of spitting in the mosque is considered as wrong according to the Prophet URNBUH. It is restricted for it would lead to ill feelings (discomfort/disgusted) for others who went to the mosque as well as dirtying the mosque. The same is stated in a hadith narrated by Jabir bin Abdillah RA, where he said the Prophet URNBUH said: فَإِنَّ الْمَلاَئِكَةَ تَتَأَذَّى مِمَّا يَتَأَذَّى مِنْهُ بَنُو آدَمَ “The angels are also offended by the things that offend the children of Adam." Sahih Muslim (564) The above hadith contextually refers to the foul smell from people who ate garlic or onion. It is included as actions that are restricted by the Prophet URNBUH. We have discussed this matter in AL-KAFI #1653 THE RULING OF ATTENDING THE CONGREGATIONAL PRAYER AT THE MOSQUE AFTER SMOKING OR EATING FOOD THAT STINK. Whereas, Imam al-Nawawi in his commentary on the above hadith states: لَا يَحْرُمُ إخْرَاجُ الرِّيحِ مِنْ الدُّبُرِ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ لَكِنَّ الْأَوْلَى اجْتِنَابُهُ “It is not haram to fart in mosques however it is best to avoid from doing so.” Refer Al-Majmu’ Syarah Al-Muhazzab, Al-Nawawi (2/175). Conclusion To conclude, we would like to state that it is makruh (undesirable) to fart in a mosque when there are a lot of other people around him for the foul smell will disturb others. However, if it is in an area where there is no one around, then this is fine for it does not disturb others. Lastly, we pray to Allah SWT to be given the correct understanding in practising the religion. Amin.

[@aliij2538]

I wonder what planet you live on 🤔 This is the month of diabetes, heart attacks, and other diseases. Reciting a shaytan book has no benefit. The marathon prayer known as taraweeh is a bid'a (invention) that the illiterate man didn't request. Feasting is not fasting. No need of a demon named jibril to squeeze the illiterate man like a ketchup bottle to teach him how to read and no need for that illiterate man to tell us about previous scripture when he himself was learning from the Jews and heretic christians like the cousin of his wife or Ka'ab al-ahbar the rabbi. No need to kiss a black stone to forgive your sins

[@michaelsowerby8198]

Points established: Mohammed is a title, not just a name. John of Damascus wrote about a person/s called Mohamed. There are second-hand (as opposed to first-hand) accounts of Mohammad/s existing, the Chinese sources being geographically removed and lacking any form of verification as to the subject/s in question (Chinese whispers!) My conclusion: There is nothing in the aforementioned that is sufficient to put a dent in the S.I.N.. Basing One's speculation on the above could be seen as desperation in the context of having nothing more substantial to say. Brothers, please do better.

[@IslamicOrigins]

I think you don't appreciate the value of the Chinese sources. Calling them Chinese whispers is ridiculous. The reports are from officials (envoys) of the Tayyaye to the Tang Court, which were dutifully recorded in the State records. As such they are far better evidence than most accounts provide. Last point about "please do better" is rather insulting. I don't have control over the quality or quantity of evidence that exists. Bear that in mind. That you believe in the SIN - which is worthless propaganda - rather than painstaking investigation into primary sources tells me a lot about your lack of sense.

[@mysotiras21]

The Chinese had actual and frequent interactions with Damascus.

[@aaronmusa234]

this is like asking the christian imperial wizard of the kkk. his views on judaism irrelevant

[@mysotiras21]

NOPE. this is like asking a TRAINED physicist about his views on quantum theory.

[@garybowings1538]

Muh? Bob Muh. Muh?

[@aaronmusa234]

@@mysotiras21 not even close these two knuckleheads believe bible ' earth a flat circle. does not move. sun orbits the earth. earth 6k yrs young. noah floods worldwide ' lol. quran teaches the opposite

[@garybowings1538]

​@@aaronmusa234"Dear Broder: Universe is located in lower level of Seven Heaven. Allah created Earth. Then Allah created Seven Heaven. Muh? Amin." - Bob Muh

[@aaronmusa234]

@@garybowings1538 most flat earth bible followers leave bible after 6th grade science bible ' earth a flat circle does not move sun orbits the earth earth 6k yrs young noah floods worldwide '.[ can't blame them ]. .quran teaches the opposite of bible and increases the faith of muslims taking 6th grade science hence Newsweek ' today 70 percent of Americans do not believe Jesus is god while islam is now second most followed religion in 31 u s states ' both figures seem low. to the 1.8 billion muslims worldwide happy ramadan final two days coming to a close. fasting increases god consciousness and cleanses the body but its the recitation of quran during this month in congregations worldwide From start to finish which is even more significant this month. no other scripture was preserved in this manner by god

[@AlonzoHarris235]

Jay Smith believes in three gods.

[@alphainitium5737]

😅😅 Trinity is not believe in 3 Gods(tritheist) , bygone ignorance.

[@MU-we8hz]

1924 quran 😂

[@moorek1967]

You believe in a book that ended and a guy who was a false prophet. Which one do you think is more wrong? Mohammad believed in 5 gods. Allah, formerly know as Huba'al, Sin, and Dionysus. Also, al-Manat, Al- Uzza and Alilat. Now, when you said shahada, do you not say la ilah? Did you know the Talmud says La Ilah was the devil demon goddess Lailah? La Ilah is a demon according to the Talmud. Funny. So, if you say that Al-Manat. Al- Uzza and Alilat are not goddesses, then you are not submitted to mohammad. So, Alonzo Harris believes in 5 gods, all of which are demons. Good job, Alonzo. Good job.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@moorek1967 You affirm three persons to be fully god. Muslims only affirm one SELF is God. You believe in three gods. Your position is tritheism. Nobody holds to your made up claims. Christians can’t defend their position. They also can’t critique other real positions. They are always try to strawman people because they are ashamed of the trinity.🫠

[@talisikid1618]

@@AlonzoHarris235 we believe in an infinite God. You do not. Your god was even overruled by Moses.

[@Thewatchman303]

This is desperate bordering pathetic analysis

[@aln2790]

JESUS IS NOT GOD. IT'S NOT JESUS WHO CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH, BUT THE LORD GOD. READ: GENESIS 1:1. BECAUSE GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH, THEN JESUS COMMANDED WORSHIP THE LORD GOD. READ: MATTHEW 4:10 LUKE 4:8.

[@garybowings1538]

" 'Me and the Father are One.' - Jesus READ JOHN 10:30!" - Allan

[@ricksonora6656]

If you accept Matthew and Luke, then you must accept John. But you ignore John, so you are inconsistent.

[@aln2790]

​​​​@@ricksonora6656 John 10:30, I and the Father (Lord God) are one, which means follow Jesus, if you follow Jesus it means you have followed the Father (Lord God), because Jesus' teachings are from the Lord God. And Jesus emphasized it in MATTHEW 4:10 and LUKE 4:8. Jesus never commanded people to worship him, but to follow him. Read: John 8:12...

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

How did God create the Heaven and the earth?

[@garybowings1538]

​@@aln2790"The trinity is in Genesis! "Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground." READ GENESIS 1:26!" - Allan

[@ibtisamafram1069]

We use the name abe_del_aziz

[@user-pk2ol8qv2y]

Yes that is also a good point: Abd - el - aziz and Abd - el - lah Meaning Slave of God So Aziz is equivalent to God

[@n.y.c.freddy]

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[@moorek1967]

Well, Peter O'Toole was Lawrence of Arabia. So there.

[@n.y.c.freddy]

@@moorek1967 Go and WATCH // View The MOVIE ''KHARTOUM""., and it will LEARN YOU SOMETHING!

[@augustinep6193]

Good video. Thanks.