Miami Dice

[@EyalItsik]

I have recently got a chance to play the game, and ordered it that same night. It's fantastic, one of the most fun games I've played in a while.

[@randito2387]

I think this review was a little off. It felt more like a dissection of bits as opposed to how much fun it was. It's like reviewing a restaurant by describing the ingredients and the uniform of the employees than reviewing whether or not the eating experience was any good. Not my favorite review.

[@xXN0cturnXx]

It looks like Tom and Zee are Toms bodyguards and he is the Mafia-Boss of Boardames.

[@cartoon80s90s]

I don't know how enjoyable the game really is, but the art is stunning.

[@refgemlin7492]

Thanks for the honest review, guys :)

[@Straddllw]

If Drow is my favourite d&d race, would I like this? The review is lukewarm though.

[@EyalItsik]

Go watch Drive Thru Review's review of the game, I found it more useful because Joel knows the theme better (plus he liked the game more)

[@Straddllw]

Eyal Itsik Sweet, will do!

[@winnie666]

and he still gave it 7/10, like Tom.

[@justinjacobson7951]

Curious how this compares to Evil Hat's Don't Turn Your Back, which came out last year and also does deckbuilding and area control.

[@woehrle17]

More Miami Dice reviews with Zee please! It's like getting the fun of a top 10 list and a review in one :D

[@ohnree4110]

PLEASE, does anyone know the intro song of Miami Dice? I've looked for hours.

[@Steve-L]

Tom has been asked several times where his music is from. He has bought music from some website that sells music. I can't remember it's name, and I do not know if this particular theme came from there, but chances are high. If so, you probably can't find the song, but have to purchase it.

[@ohnree4110]

Dang. It's seriously one of my favorite songs at this point. Thanks for the help!

[@xGarrettThiefx]

I will buy this but they seriously dropped the ball on the main board - its basically and mishmash of purple, white black and grey coloring thrown onto the board imo. What happened to drawing upon the rich AD&D universe and all of the richness that comes with it ??

[@carnalito80]

Because it's set in the Underdark? :) But i agree, the board is not great.

[@leonardthethird]

Anyone interested in hearing a bit behind the scenes on this game can check out the D&D official podcast, they just did an episode talking about the game.

[@MrSlade2814]

You guys do a great review, and it did seem to be an okay game. I am really glad Sam once again mentioned price in the review because it does not seem worth the $74.99 price tag. Curious to know if price is ever considered in rating a boardgame?

[@cthulwho8197]

+slothrob There have been a number of occasions where particular mention has been made of the cost of a game. One notable example was Cthulhu Wars when Sam said it was really difficult to recommend a game that cost $300. Of course there are also times when this is overlooked, for example all of Sam's reviews of the many, many releases for Imperial Assault which by now probably cost about the same if not more to collect them all.

[@WylliamJudd]

I'm surprised you didn't mention A Few Acres of Snow.

[@vonwoolf9963]

I respect that they had a lukewarm feeling to this game, but I wished they gave a more precise review of why they felt this way about it. If there was a review video I wished the DT would remake, this would be the one.

[@santiagorf77]

I have the feeling they tend to review together when they don't like the game, but it makes their reviews blurry.

[@inhumanbookworm]

New table? What happened to the old one?

[@cthulwho8197]

The old table now lives with Sam.

[@gasg5000]

Got it 😊 and love it fast and easy to play and love the drow theme totally recommended

[@Valdrex]

Love D&D and had my eye on this for a while now. Thanks for posting will watch in a bit.

[@PodMan26]

75 dollars MSRP?! That seems like a hefty price. Oof.

[@12thLevelSithLord]

Especially for what looked like a (not particularly hefty) box of cards and some dinky little plastic shield thingies.

[@RoyAnderson]

Well, the real price is actually $50 (which you can get it for most places online). MSRP is a marketing gimmick in most industries. The retailers--not the manufacturers--can set the price to be anything they want, after all. Basically, "discounted" prices draw more buyers. Period. Thus, it behooves a retailer to slap a "discount" or "sale" price to anything if they want it sold faster. Manufacturers understand this, so many of the more savvy ones intentionally set their MSRP high whilst keeping their bulk prices low, making it so that a retailer can set a "discounted/sale" price on Day 1 (and thus get more overall sales).

[@PodMan26]

Well, the actual price is the MSRP because if you go into a local game store that's what they'll be most likely selling it for. I've seen the overpriced products that are constantly on sale business model before, I'm aware of it, but I don't think that's the case here because LGS can't afford to do that, they have to sell at MSRP, but online stores have fewer costs so they can afford to have everything below MSRP. So yes, I know I could get the game for cheaper online, that's kool, I know how to try to find cheaper prices. If I want to support my local store though, I'll be buying it for MSRP.

[@RoyAnderson]

"overpriced products that are constantly on sale business model before" = that is all products. Know that a manufacturer COULD set their MSRP to whatever the bulk price is, but then no retailer would sell it (it would be the opposite effect...buyers would think the retailer was "ripping them off"), so they set MSRP at an arbitrarily high price (typically 1/3 higher than bulk price) and adjust it based on retailer input. Also, it's not "constantly on sale"...it should be variable. Competent retailers know to shift the illusory sale/discounts around so that there's a perception of limited availability. RE: LGS prices. Not if you live in FL and your FLGS happens to be Cool Stuff. What you describe is just small business owners failing to understand basic market practice: that they set the price. Walking into my LGS is always a great enjoyment but also irksome for me, because they pretty much violate every conventional business model. I'm beginning to think the "death of the LGS" things you hear periodically are really just growth pains as gaming goes mainstream. There's actual competition now and a LGS can't be run any more by folks who don't understand business. p.s.--sorry for the novel!

[@StefanLopuszanski]

DEAR TOM!

[@BobLee-df4zh]

I'll never understand the complaints of lack of theme for euro style games. If I'm dying for thematic gameplay I'll play a dice chucker or zombicide or something.

[@omerhertz]

Am I the only one coming into this review that thought that this was a new game in the Castle Ravenloft / Wrath or Ashardalon etc... line?

[@Steve-L]

originally and only for a short time, I did as well, but they cleared this up I think in the origins preview.

[@mikeboyd79]

Hah, I know this is 6 years old now, but that last comment: "Not always, there are some games you should just buy" - which games should we just buy?? Have you done an episode on "Just buy these games" yet? 😁

[@enjoythestruggle]

Tom says Drow are a boring race? Tom, this means war.

[@natelinhart114]

The board could have been much prettier. I like the idea of area control plus deck building though.

[@endgame]

Yeah, it looks like something from years and years ago.

[@KH-ft4ut]

Sadly its just following the trend. All modern D&D games look like its from the 90ies.

[@cthulwho8197]

+Moe Joe it is a strange mix, the cards and board are all dark purples and black (as a Drow theme might suggest) but then the incredibly cheap looking shields are bright neon. I was interested in this game after the previews but the look of it puts me off (as does the text heavy cards, I can see a lo of time wasted reading out every card in the purchase line for every player).

[@homelessjoe]

Looks like it was made 10 years ago.

[@Tanolotus]

I like it!

[@TheMrE]

Deck builders bore me. I also have a hard time getting family to play them. They do enjoy Lords of Waterdeep, it is very approachable and fun. I am liking this combination deck building/area control, seems fun! And the game seems well designed and tested (these are clearly solid designers). I'm just worried that it is not as approachable as LoW. However, I'm eager to try it!

[@stormy7722]

CSI has this on sale right now (July 16th 2016) for $48. Pre-order.

[@Thesussysuscat]

instantly turned off by the board

[@Ghosthacker94]

It is pretty bland tbh and this coming from someone without too much experience with actual boards and new to the hobby, I only know the Ticket to Ride, Champions of Midgard and Android: Mainframe boards and have played Richard the Lionheart and Root. And yeah, this is eh. Heard good things about the gameplay tho

[@Darwingreen5]

so, it's basically a board game casserole?

[@LosthorizonPT]

yeah the board design is really subpar, even the card design is not that good. The Art is D&D Wotc stuff so it has to be good. Have this on my wishlist, I love deckbuilding but the graphic design and the price puts it on the back of my wishlist

[@kg2077-h3r]

I like you guys, but you really should read more books ;)

[@wroot_lt]

Hm, Tom is doing overviews for Miami Dice lately. Not that i don't like it :D

[@giantlobsterboy644]

Zee would complain about Tic Tac Toe being to long of a game. Snakes and Ladders is to much of a time commitment to Zee. He has the attention span of a fish.

[@enjoythestruggle]

LOL

[@BoardGameSocial]

This game has little to nothing to do with D&D. Area control with deck building. I liked the burying of cards that give you more points than their worth in your hand at the end of the game. If you are looking at this game for a D&D theme/nostalgia....pass it up. I would play it again, but never buy it for myself, unless there was a HUGE discount.

[@Steve-L]

I felt the same way with Lords of Waterdeep.

[@Epistemophilos]

Death by Powerpoint. Not a new mechanism.

[@ramonosuke]

The art looks great, but I feel the production quality is really lacking. Cards looked "cheap" and the board looks so drab and boring. Maybe it's just me, but I usually look past this but this game does retail for $75... Going to have to pass on this one.

[@kjetilbirkeland1]

I don’t get why they call this a Dungeons and Dragons game. It doesn’t feel like one at all.

[@nanorider426]

*sigh* Tom, Tom, Tom. Learn from Zee. He's got the pronunciation correct. It's not Drizzit, it's Drizzt.

[@jace76ful]

I'll pass yikes!

[@alexandrelaguna2725]

Bad visual design. The board and pieces look boring...

[@thankukorea]

meh and price point makes it a nope

[@madifinley7018]

This is such an ugly game. The board, the pieces, just ugh.

[@MeanNGreen17]

Horrible graphic design, run of the mill gameplay, high price, pass.

[@ThorMNKasp]

Not a big D&D fan? Tom is an odd gamer. It is like being a icehockey player and not being a fan of ice.

[@kdhlkjhdlk]

Wow, I'm really disappointed.

[@RoyAnderson]

I just played this for the first time yesterday at a friends house. If you like tactical in your face games (I do) then it's ridiculous fun. Ironically, I'm not a fan of deck builders or area control games (or drow) but this hybrid is brilliant. I love it. Likely will be the next game I buy! :)

[@bbbd77]

That board is hideous.... Fail worse than fire and axe

[@queerchameleon]

$75.00 MSRP is outrageous for what you get in this box. The art design on the back of the cards is horrible an cheap looking. The card quality is poor. The board is snooze fest. In this the golden age of board gaming they need to step up there game.