Michael Franzese on Knowing "Serial Killer" Roy DeMeo who Allegedly Killed 200 People (Part 7)

[@jamesl7188]

Vlad is the kinda guy that likes to hear himself talk and brings guys on just to prove to them how much he knows.

[@wrongbutnotaliar5606]

Totally!

[@omreb9040]

That's called doing your research vs just asking random questions

[@Cypher312]

It’s vladtv Michael franzese has his own platform just like vlad

[@jamesl7188]

@@omreb9040 nothing wrong with doing research, in fact there’s many instances where vlad’s research is inaccurate (which is a whole other issue) The issue is we are here to listen to Michael and his story and not to hear about how much Vlad already knows. Saving that job for my boy Nardwaur

[@kevinforeman4485]

U can do the same.

[@LamineSaibi06]

You can tell Michael knows much more thank what he’s willing to tell in this interview 😉

[@olremacIII]

Yeah he knew people who got caught up in that Gemini lounge lol

[@Maurice76746]

Especially when he paused about the Gemini question.

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

I'm sure that's why he's still alive. He went to prison, backed out of the life, but never spilled the beans on anyone. And the Mob trusted him to keep his word not to do so.

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

No, he really doesn't. Franzese didn't know Roy that well.

[@dalibormlynek4197]

@@wayneantoniazzi2706 Nope, he said in an interview that he is alive today because the rest of the crime bosses, etc. simply died of old age, so there is nobody left.

[@soulsaproductions2024]

I love the way Vlad explains the Gemini method to a guy who was part of Cosa Nostra while Roy DeMeo was still around. That's like me telling you that the sky is blue! 😂

[@1983robbo]

Haha. The look on Michael’s face just says it’s nothing. Been there done that seen all the methods. Forgetaboutit

[@seanpearce5809]

Perhaps he’s explaining it it to his audience in case some people didn’t know?

[@maturin1919]

That was for the audience, sir.

[@GuyMorris-n4d]

Maybe Vlad helped Roy DeMeo since he seems to know the disposal technique.

[@moedinyu7172]

Mike is HILARIOUS!!!! My guy said "I was down in the ish for 20 Years!! I ainn NEVER knew THAT many people that had to go!!!"! 😂 He sounds TOO accurate!!! Bro makes it his business to , at the least, make SENSE when he speaks!!!

[@davile4596]

🤣🤣🤣i was dyin when he said that

[@alijordanx8954]

Yea if you got beef with 200 ppl maybe you’re the problem and you gotta go!

[@moedinyu7172]

@Ali Jordan X I'm sure there's a way to beef with 200 people. But "getting the ok" 200 times is nearly unthinkable! It would make WAAAAY more sense, I think, for that number to be reached with the help of doing contract hits. Like all over the country. But beefing and killing 200 guys!?? Naaaaaah!!! Without bein noticed much sooner? I don't think so! But I am no mob expert! But u do have a PhD in Common Sense! So I know for a fact, that if folks knew you'd even killed "just" 100 people!? It'd be hard to get a PHONE CALL from somebody!!! They'd all be deathly afraid of you! And jus like Mike said!! Guys like that don't last long! I'm from a big city as well. The story is true there too! All the "big time", widely known killers get killed, eventually! For the same reasons! They'll either "take it too far". Or they'll actually scare a guy into killin them. Just to have an argument with someone like that, I'd personally, be thinkin about my life!! So more than likely, someone they're attempting to bulky or lean on, will get the "wrong message", and fear for their Natural Lives!!! And figure, "welp! I messed up this time! This guy's gonna KILL me!! May as well get him first!!!"! I'm no "man of the cloth" either. But the good book DOES say it's not very healthy for a man to be, either TOO TOO BAD, or TOO TOO GOOD! Roy DeMeo? Too bad! Bin Laden? Too bad! Martin Luther King Jr? Too good! Ghandi? Too good! All were hunted down and dispatched like animals!!! The criminal life is a certain death! Yet, everyday, there's a new recruit! Waitin to get noticed, and perhaps, drafted! Serve, only to lose their lives! Or livelihoods!

[@moedinyu7172]

Yall are ALL dope!! Yall must enjoy Mr Fraceze like I do! You know like I know, that he seems to ALWAYS be on POINT!!!! Peace to all yall who upvoted the kid!✌🏿

[@michaelknight8276]

💯💯💯😂🤣😭🤧

[@jameskarins1717]

michael franzese looked mad uncomfortable as vlad geeked out on how they killed people

[@alessioaznavour5275]

Ikr

[@rkk578]

That smile when he said that he didn't know anyone who ended up in the Gemini Lounge

[@radeemwalker706]

Right! Probably knew way more than one or two.

[@eddycarpenter8989]

i think its good that vlad reminds this fake born again Christian of all the murders he was involved in slash knew about. you can see he is uncomfortable in his facial expressions

[@Domowithracks_]

I always loved hearing about the mob stories. So many unbelievable events that happened it's crazy. I would love to hear more about them!

[@sidetrak85]

The sit down is one the best for biographies. I work 9 shifts with headphones and ran through over a 100 episodes in 3 weeks

[@RamsLakersDodgers]

Listen to Sammy the Bull instead of Michael Franzese & you’ll hear some great stories.Michael never knows anything or anybody.And all his stories you already know from documentaries.

[@sidetrak85]

@@RamsLakersDodgers I like them both and here's my unrequested opinion lol Michael doesn't have as many stories because he was an earner. The mafia used him for his earning talent but he needed people like Sammy to keep earning or some one would of stepped in. The part that bothers me is when Michael acts like he wasn't as bad as the others because he was an earner. The only reason he didn't go as far as Sammy is no one in they're right mind would allow it's bank roll to go to prison for murder or assault. Having taken the oath and not being an earner, he would of killed who they told him to as well so he's no better.

[@bertovicuna9995]

​@@RamsLakersDodgersMichael was there, you wasn't. STFU

[@Highlyrecognized]

I’ll say it before I’ll say it again. You had this exact conversation in the last interview and the one before

[@whitepplhair]

1:45 that no was a yes🤣

[@juangotti2202]

100% lol

[@audiofeinz5754]

Duhhhh vlad be the police foreal.

[@Mike37551]

“200 people…where are you gonna find that many people that had to go” 😂😂😂

[@carlvictory654]

😂😂😂😂

[@ericbryant-dz8mj]

They would get Mexicans and blacks from the bars

[@slayy51621]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 roy and his crew was just killing people for fun I think alot of un sanctioned hits he was doing

[@Sebastian-km9qx]

We’ll New York had what 5-7 million people living there. There’s ton of drug dealers, scum bags who all live on the street

[@TwanDeezy]

@@slayy51621Yeah, probably killing a bunch of nobodies over gambling/loan shark/drug debts, probably a ton of people that the Mafia wouldn't care/know about.

[@bungle3912]

I’ve read the Murder Machine book about Roy DeMeo’s crew. It’s brilliant, but relentlessy grim. Roy was killed by his own crew, too. The Gemini Twins killed him and put him in the trunk of a car.

[@Nateshearon]

with a chandelier on top of him lol

[@citypopFM]

Well the Gemini Twins, Senter and Testa, were told they're marked for death themselves but if they killed DeMeo, they would get a pass, and indeed the Gambinos kept their word and transferred them to the Luccheses under Casso who was a murderous psychopath himself.

[@Richiedagger87]

It’s like the old adage goes “you live by the sword, you die by the sword”

[@juicer404]

u can list the audio book on yt

[@americanzombie1802]

Yup. Didn’t Paul Costallano order him killed because he didn’t trust him or thought he would eventually rat? Also Roy was getting paranoid

[@jonmichael3280]

I've read about Roy a lot and I wish Netflix or someone would do a documentary on him. You couldn't do a movie on him without watering it down so a documentary is the best route. He's the head of class when it comes to mob psychopaths.

[@ren17x50]

Only ones I could think of are Alber Anastasia, Pittsburgh Phil or Mad Dog Coll

[@bayviewbud1539]

Read up on Gregory Scarpa

[@lancecartwright7583]

Thomas Karate Pitera

[@ren17x50]

@@lancecartwright7583 oh yeah. Dude was cold as it gets

[@lancecartwright7583]

@@ren17x50 Mad Sam Destefano definitely makes the list

[@bungle3912]

In the book, Roy DeMeo shot a guy in a car and drove around with the corpse, waving his dead hand at people on the street.

[@juicer404]

or when nino got shot, roy went into the hospital dug bullet out of his neck and replaced it with another to give the cops to make it look like someone else shot him.. LOL

[@GoGetYourShinebox]

@@juicer404 That’s from a Sammy The Bull story, hard one to believe

[@juicer404]

@@GoGetYourShinebox it’s from murder machine the book

[@RamsLakersDodgers]

@@GoGetYourShinebox Sammy the Bull tells better gangster stories than Michael Franzese.Franzese’s stories are boring.

[@edaxsachorwzky8898]

@@RamsLakersDodgers boring ? People getting beaten , harassed , racketeering, death threats by the boss? Lol 😂

[@bungle3912]

There was a guy who helped Roy called Joey Dracula who actually lived in the flat above the Gemini Lounge where they cut up all the bodies. Imagine living there.

[@rangers7290]

I think Dracula was Roy’s uncle if I remember a Sammy the bull story correctly

[@Mil_Bixby]

They called him Dracula because he took baths in the same tub they used to drain the bodies of blood

[@MAruGGs]

I think his name sounded similar also, some say he went back to Italy they never got to him, unless he was… “ya know”

[@bungle3912]

@@Mil_Bixby That’s not true. They called him Dracula as he looked like Dracula. Google his picture. Also, the drainage bath was downstairs in the Gemini, Dracula lived in the flat above.

[@nateplissken8684]

@@bungle3912 Nah, I like the other story better. Lets agree that he looked like Dracula, took baths downstairs and probably slept in a coffin 🧛‍♀

[@Mixamaka]

The real number is 201. The last one doesn't really count, because TK Kirkland cameback to life a week later... Allegedly of course.

[@BigA678]

🌽

[@apraew20]

🤣

[@GoldmanZ1616]

😂😂😂

[@Biggle_PeePee]

He was there when he heard the stories bro! That’s serious 😂

[@notd0ll109]

The fact that Greg Scarpa and Roy DeMeo never had beef is sad. Two of probably the worst psycho serial killers in the history of the mob. It could have been the mob’s Kong vs Godzilla

[@39Hundred]

I like to imagine a Crime Family with members like Greg Scarpa, Roy DeMeo, Tommy Karate, Nicky Scarfo, Gaspipe Casso, Vic Amuso, Mad Sam DeStefano, Tommy DeSimone, Tony Spilotro and Carmine Galante. 😂

[@scottisitoro3953]

@@39Hundred And The Wild Bunch from The Chicago Outfit, too !

[@speedking7224]

​@@39Hundredthe Italian Al-Qaeda

[@xxxs8309]

Even Gotti feared DeMeo

[@DOGFACESOLDIER0708]

​@@39Hundredyou forgot Anastasia

[@CaptainJimmybrown99]

Why did Vlad sound so happy when he said “let’s talk about the Gemini method” bro is such a vulture

[@mirlind8894]

twisted individual.

[@keltacuk8112]

He's very likeable Michael ....seems the type to stick up for you & help you out.

[@chaddevine565]

One of the main reasons demaio was killed was because at the time the big boss Castellano was indicted and on trial for being part of the car-theft ring that demaio was involved in and they were worried that when DeMeo eventually got picked up that he would snitch that was part of the reason they tried to get Gotti's crew to do the hit and God he was a little apprehensive about messing with Roy because he had such a strong team so Castellano got one of his main guys to recruit Anthony senter and Joey Testa and those two were the Gemini twins that you hear about and they were two of dimaio's most trusted guys and they killed him and then went to the Lucchese family until they got busted for murder and they're both in Federal Prison still to this day

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

Dicicco didn't recruit the twins. He talked to Gaspipe. Joey had a close friend who was close to Casso and in the Luchesse who acted as an intermediary. If you look at surveillance and who is always around Joey that isn't Anthony, you might figure out who. This comes from Frank Pergola.

[@smoothshot8925]

Vlad “Why would anyone go to the Gemini lounge though that’s the thing like didnt ppl not start catching on to what was going on there” 😂😂😂💀☠️

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

@@smoothshot8925 people were coming in and out of that place all the time to do business. Vlad doesn't know this topic well.

[@mer_meh]

Michael didn't really know DeMeo. You should have asked about Greg Scarpa instead. He was a close friend of Michael and was just as much of a serial killer.

[@lagosfury5142]

Greg scarpa is dead I believe,,,there arent to many people around you can talk to him about roy... that was awhile ago..mike never said he knew Roy that well...they were in different families,,what your gonna hear about Roy nowadays is hearsay

[@RamsLakersDodgers]

Michael Franzese always says he doesn’t know anyone or doesn’t know anything🤦🏼His stories are boring.Sammy the Bull has some real gangster stories🍷

[@123FUG33]

Vlad needs to ask this question to Sammy the Bull who most likely has more info as he probably had him actually commit some hits.

[@lagosfury5142]

@@RamsLakersDodgers noooo...lol...he just not divulge every detail about someone he is asked about,as is his right and he doesnt talk about things or people HE DOES NOT KNOW,,,as you SHOULDNT...that's not boring...its who he is,,,yall weird

[@RamsLakersDodgers]

@@lagosfury5142He was a white collar racketeer gangster.Don’t get it twisted fanboy.

[@brandonpryormusic]

Damn these guys were out there rolling out the Dexter Morgan treatment

[@kevinsummers6129]

This guy looks great for 70. Great stories.

[@edwardgilbert4786]

Prison does that sometimes. I'm in my early 40s with a grandkid still look in my late 20s. Stress free environment, low exposure to sun, balanced diet. No smoking or drinking or drugs. Depends how you do your time.

[@matteopantangelli9477]

@@edwardgilbert4786 you had no stress in prison?

[@saintlouis1087]

@@matteopantangelli9477he gave up his manhood

[@RamsLakersDodgers]

Great stories?Sammy the Bull has great gangster stories.Michael’s are the ones you’ve heard already through documentaries.

[@lokevoice]

@@RamsLakersDodgers Sammy the bull is a lying rat that paints himself as a hero in every one of his questionable stories tho

[@j2jwhatsapp]

This guy is very very smart, never incriminates himself, never reacts when things are brought up and never flaunts his exploits, he's a crook through and through the FBI don't get you for nothing but he's really smart.

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

fbi get people for nothing all the time its a huge part of what they do

[@AW-kr9fl]

That’s why Michael is as successful as he is

[@vicconstantin7056]

Real poker face Gets a read before Vlad finish the sentence Very smart

[@j2jwhatsapp]

@@vicconstantin7056 yeap

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

What has he done to incriminate? He isn't suspected of any murders. Nobody informed on him for them. There is a statute of limitations. He didn't know Roy well.

[@SA210AF]

Vlad needs to grow how his return guests have over time. Everyone seems evolving except Vlad. Always seems to get excited by details and not lessons. Nothing wrong with the topics, but the questions limit a really great interview.

[@thedude4672]

I'm not a fan of Vlad. Very bad interviewer. I don't understand how he is so successful.

[@carbon0006]

@@thedude4672because he has good guests

[@GamboTheGent]

That Crew was the most dangereous crew in US history. For anyone interested i would highly advice reading Murder Machine, great book. Gemini Lounge was like a death portal.

[@ConfuciusZ]

You sure it’s not the crews dropping 40 bodies in the dessert at a time?

[@nastypiglosi1788]

@ConfuciusZ that happened in the US?

[@mathEspinoza916]

Sounds impossible to me, in Mexico is more believable

[@GamboTheGent]

@@mathEspinoza916 i said US. not mexico. Obviously Cartels is a different level. The cartels has hundreds & thousands of members. De Meo crew was around 10/15 members and associates

[@citypopFM]

Castellano was still relying on guys like Roy's crew and the Westies to do the murder work for the Gambinos for years. Even though he was a greedy, businessman-minded boss, he was still a ruthless killer as far as ordering hits whenever he felt like it. Castellano even ordered the hit of one of his daughter's boyfriends for making fun of him by comparing him to Frank Perdue as both were in the chicken business. So it's not out of the realm that Castellano was heavily relying on Roy and his crew to take out and dismember bodies all the time until Roy got too hot with the feds and like Micheal said, he was way too much of a wildcard with everything he knew. Roy was so dirty that Castellano always hesitated on inducting him as a made man for all the work he did for the family *precisely because* he was a serial killer-minded guy. There is no way he killed 200 guys, that's ludicrous, but I'm sure it's maybe up to 40-50 which is still a lot of guys.

[@ericbryant-dz8mj]

Roy always had his reputation so there's no way people just keep meeting up with him, if Roy calls me to meet up, I'd simply say no Roy...I can't believe people are just falling for the same thing

[@alexanderpadilla7264]

Roy would have his crew kill minority men for practice. Said his coffee guy was up to 6 bodies

[@Geeeeeeeoesg]

The frank purdee chicken story is madness

[@seansimms8503]

They say Roy also worked for Hoover, rumors says he solved the Mississippi Freedom Riders Murders for the Feds, they pointed out the klansmen and Roy went to work.

[@citypopFM]

@@alexanderpadilla7264 He was deranged, for sure. Sammy even recounted a story where they were sitting at a restaurant to eat, and Roy was observing the sitting patrons, much of them elderly folks, before randomly telling Sammy about how he wonders how fast he could kill everyone around them. Sammy was by all means a ruthless killer himself but shared that Roy was sick in the head and bothered him.

[@Honeygrip]

Vlad sounds giddy explaining the Gemini Method.

[@jamesj4253]

Vlad going into gruesome details of murder is really cringe Michael is trying to be a man of God and looks really uncomfortable.

[@younggoose7315]

I mean what did you expect ? It’s Vlad Michael should know

[@Macleod644]

Isn’t he supposed to do that? Shock & gore sells homie

[@bighuncho5210]

Act innocent

[@razablanco3766]

I would imagine this is nothing.

[@spoom937]

Your exactly right man! When you've actually witnessed evil in person... you don't wanna say what doesn't have to be said! Vlad is coming from a perspective of not knowing or seeing any of this in real life. So just like these people that have commented about your post they think it's normal lol! This shit ain't normal an it ain't fun to talk about.

[@natemyers4946]

*Roy:Aye Sammy, lets lift weights in front of the bosses to show them how strong we are.* Sammy: ??????

[@mosaicmonk4380]

When Michael smiles when I ask about the gym and I lounge it makes me think he knows more than he’s letting on

[@windowsxp4322]

Of course he does but everything ain’t meant to be out in the public

[@mosaicmonk4380]

@@windowsxp4322 especially windows xp

[@bloodfarmer]

gym and i lounge 🤣🤣🤣

[@windowsxp4322]

@@mosaicmonk4380 I’m definitely public I’m am windows xp after all 😂😂😂😂

[@NewWokeMedia]

@@bloodfarmer it took for me to see your comment to realize wtf he was trying to type 😂

[@neilpowell5285]

He's the most fascinating gas station owner that ever existed.

[@loganjacobs764]

Vlad talks about the same thing every time he has Franzese on

[@Richiedagger87]

Thank you! I said the same exact thing, it’s like he forgets what they’ve talked about in previous interviews. He should know by now that Michael doesn’t like to talk about murders. I think that Vlad always tries to push that point because he’ll get a good video clip with a sensationalize title that people will click on so he can get the views. Vlad is so used to all these other gang members that he has on that love talking about that sort of stuff because they think it makes them look cool and dangerous. Michael has more class than that , and that’s why I have more respect for him than a lot of these other guys!

[@DoinDirtPt2]

Yet u still tune in bozo

[@laredotexas9565]

Vlad asks Michael questions that makes him think twice before he answers, he ( Michael) knows the game for a long time for him to fall in Undercover Police Officer Vlad schemes.

[@mistrsveta3725]

This guy knows much more, you can see that on his eyes and voice. Very uncomfortable questions for him.

[@Profit2Raw]

Vlad really asked if he knew anybody who’s been murdered at the Gemini shop? Super Fed 😂

[@bosconibbles6777]

Love Michaels response on Roy

[@eltorosanchez4158]

Vlad-“You know anybody that ended up at the Gemini?” Mike “…No”

[@JoeyCutlessTV]

Take note rappers who do interviews with Vlad on how Mike knows what NOT to say to this guy and how to not put yourself out there too bad.

[@benoneill4805]

every single time he comes on you have asked him these exact same questions!

[@TheRedPiLLvs]

Character flaws can get yourself Zipped up⬆️ in a body bag.

[@peterbell5806]

4:50 thanks for mentioning that. I didn't know that.

[@pastorjeff3256]

Need a movie about Roy

[@bungle3912]

Ray Liotta played him in The Iceman, the Gemini Lounge being filmed now.

[@annamariecastaneda3210]

They’ll show everything in Sammy The Bulls tv series…the real story…

[@ericbryant-dz8mj]

​@@annamariecastaneda3210 Sammy real story funny

[@thedude4672]

Inside Man (2023)

[@amireplays3571]

1:46 he knows, so glad we have him and Sammy to tell stories.

[@reginaldbstewart395]

Mike DEFINITELY knew somebody who ended up in the Gemini Lounge

[@VidWatcher-v4j]

I'd love to hear the stories that Michael won't or can't talk about.

[@ronaldlymm7248]

Michael has the more romanced view of the life because of his old man . The other men coming up in that life had to get their hands a lot more dirty.

[@Richiedagger87]

Michael definitely got his hands dirty in the beginning he just doesn’t like to talk about it like a lot of the other guys do so it just doesn’t seem like he did that sort of stuff. It’s also not true that everyone of them were out there shooting and killing people. Some guys were definitely more violent than others and we’re good at doing that sort of thing and other guys were the money makers and that to Michael was he just didn’t need to do a bunch of the violence stuff himself especially after he had worked his way up the ranks .

[@fromheaventoearth5779]

@ronaldlymm7248 No one was being told to kill people every day. What is this hands dirty nonsense? Stop listening to Sammy. He's salty.

[@RaymondHouston-gu4de]

rs

[@babyboyy207]

​@@Richiedagger87 where's the proof?

[@juangotti2202]

​@babyboyy207 what u want Michael to do say everybody he murdered and go to prison for the rest of his life. Sammy git indicted on his murders so he can talk about them. Michael was a made guy of course he killed some people

[@ianholl9100]

I came here to listen to Michael and I got Vlad prattling on. So glad vlad is not doing as many interviews these days.

[@michaelbeingmichael9755]

He killed my Uncle back in 1976 and made it look like a robbery. He didn’t have permission to kill him so…..

[@RoyDeMeo-2]

Sorry about that boss

[@Foolish-Genius100]

@@RoyDeMeo-2😂😂😂

[@chrisbohanon403]

Lol ok! Why haven't you done something about that? And why the hell would you say that on public square without proof? ........ pst because it's a lie!

[@michaelbeingmichael9755]

@ You know absolutely nothing and I wasn’t alive in 1976. I only found out because of a book called Murder Machine. They made it look like a robbery. The book came out in the late 80s so go fuck yourself

[@jefeaa9165]

Title: Michael Franzese on knowing Roy DeMeo Mike: I didn’t know him real well

[@walkingboss]

I walked by The Gemini lounge every day, all i remember the smell of stale beer. Who knew....,

[@bigsurge5906]

Mike knows more. The smile.

[@Elrond_Hubbard1]

Mike is 72 years old. Unbelievable.

[@WINuFAIL]

The way he nods along just like "yes and then you slowly add the chicken stock one ladle at a time"

[@c-styl3]

How many times we going to watch the same interviews?

[@cheesetoochalk]

Vlad sounded way too excited reading the killings out.

[@bomboclot2989]

😂😂

[@bennybonez]

Michael explains Roy perfectly.

[@Dennycrane757]

It’s interesting. When asked about the De Meo crew, Michael is sitting there with arms folded; he DOES NOT want to talk about this. His body language suggests that he knows a lot more than he’s saying.

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

Walter Mack found 200+ the crew in total might have killed but it couldn't be confirmed. I am helping find new ones and writing a book on it with investigators and others. They have about 80 definite but know there was more. I think it was over 100 in total but far less than 200+. Paul didn't even know about most of them.

[@corteztheinfinite9440]

My Mind Went Elsewhere When He Said Chopshop😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Teamshmo]

200 kills is crazy. Even top sniper Simo Häyhä had around 500 kills and that was against the Soviet Union. He was killing all day every day. Roy was a business guy living a fairly normal life most of the time. He would have to have been killing guys every other week to hit his alleged numbers

[@dinamozagreb1156]

Simo did it in 5 years while Roy was clipping guys for 20-30y

[@petermanfredini]

I think Vlad is confused. Demeos whole crew is rumored to have about 200-250 bodies. Not Roy alone. And the crew was made up of 20-25 people. But allegedly there was a core group of 6-7 guys really putting in the work .

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

That's 200+ maybes. Mack didn't use them. His entire crew killed somewhere over 80 and Roy personally, probably in the 50-60 range.

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

@@petermanfredini precisely. His entire crew is at around 80, and I helped investigators find some new ones. He is suspected of around 50-60 himself. Mack found 200 in which there was evidence but it was never confirmed.

[@ivanrorick]

@@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 Wait Mack actually had evidence linking to 200? I thought the 200 figure was just wild speculation on the part of Artie Ruffels (who I saw say 300 (that's three hundred) in one documentary) that just got picked up by others and was never really questioned properly.

[@truegret7778]

Great interviews. I would be curious to hear Michael Franzese's take on Richard "Iceman" Kuklinski.

[@davidrivette8127]

He spoke about him once. Said that he exaggerated his involvement with LCN and he wasn’t as relevant/dangerous as he made himself out to be.

[@thedude4672]

He can't stand Kuklinski. Calls him a liar.

[@tmac7887]

Roy DeMeo, Gaspipe Casso, Tommy Pitera, were all Serial killers rather than mobsters

[@peace7998]

Where would you rank gregg scarpa

[@tmac7887]

@@peace7998 Forgot about him…He’s in the same boat

[@windowsxp4322]

Sam destefano also

[@annamariecastaneda3210]

Sammy just did a video about comparing them as serial killers…crazy Roy had a shower downstairs and would hang bodies upside down, cut them open like a pig and drain the blood ….

[@Brontozaur-li3vr]

Scarpa

[@frankcicero4444]

That property in Brooklyn is 100 % haunted. Today it's a church lol

[@prestonpowers7376]

He was hitting guys without the knowledge of the boss, and was also willing to hit other made men. Which were of limits

[@windowsxp4322]

I wouldn’t say other made guy most of the guys he killed was associates in some type of way

[@prestonpowers7376]

@@windowsxp4322 sure, but that would be after the boss gave the go ahead. There is a rule to not harm other made men unless of course they got the order

[@Miguel-sb9rl]

Michael you are the man

[@mrhmd8308]

You get out of line and its Rays BOOM BOOM 🔫 room boy

[@xavierdelrio8641]

Gemini lounge is a church now.

[@jaimeperez9419]

Vlad needs to shut up and let the guest speak; the guest’s insights are why I tune in, NOT to listen to Vlad.

[@johnjay-d1m]

Sounds like he’s smiling when saying all that wild shit

[@pollyanna147]

Vlad seems pretty excited talking about these murders

[@Maurice76746]

Roy had a chop shop🤣you can say that again.

[@gabevillarreal96]

Love Mike!!! The real deal and such a solid human being! Tells the truth. God bless Mr Fransese!

[@RamsLakersDodgers]

He doesn’t have great mob stories like Sammy the Bull.

[@gabevillarreal96]

@@RamsLakersDodgers That's because he was a white collar gangster! A racketeer! Even though Sammy made a ton of money he was a legitimate blue collar guy who got things done kn the streets. Plus a lot of Sammies stories are highly embellished. They way all GREAT STORIES SHOULD BE!!!

[@RamsLakersDodgers]

@@gabevillarreal96 Sammy was in the trenches so that’s why his stories are believable.Michael’s involvement in LCN was gift wrapped by his stepfather Sonny.I mean the guy was in med school so he was a nerd🤷🏼‍♂️His stories I’ve already heard through documentaries.Sammy’s stories are ones you’ve never heard before.

[@gabevillarreal96]

@@RamsLakersDodgers I said the exact same thing in my previous post. Blue collar and in the trenches means the exact same thing. Regardless of how michael ended up, you can't deny he was a tremendous earner and you have to have smart guys in the mob. If they were all leg breakers then they would have never seen the level of success that they did for nearly a century. Sammy is smart too though. Street wise but also business smart and very sharp.

[@kamilebrahimoff3589]

Yes,🙏

[@jaredclinton8121]

When he took that split second to say no. You knew he did. Lol😅

[@boogaloojenkins9667]

Vlads sense of humour about 200 murders says a lot about him as. A person

[@eddycarpenter8989]

because he has never had to kill or chop someones body up. Theres a strong possiblity that michael francezi has done this in the past so it probably triggers traumatic and horrible memories. you can see it in his face when vlad is describing the gemini method.

[@boogaloojenkins9667]

@CarlosAK47 wrong. Guy. Buster

[@boogaloojenkins9667]

@@eddycarpenter8989 vlad chuckling and grinning behind the camera is off. He really fascinated by real life gore It’s not a movie vlad.

[@ericbryant-dz8mj]

Absolutely no way he killed 200 people, he always had a reputation, so how is he getting all these opportunities? So Roy just rings them up "hey let's meet" and with his reputation, people are just meeting up with him?? Bs

[@Kabooooom670]

​@@boogaloojenkins9667 You're being dramatic af about this lol

[@waterlove2042]

What a sick dude he sitting there agreeing to it like yes that's the way we bake cake at the eggs get at the flour and then you start a little sugar really

[@rolliemosley]

Paul Castellano put the hit on Roy. Cause he knew too much. Paul sealed his fate too in doing so. Roy was Paul's top muscle. With him, John Gotti may have not been able to hit Paul so easy.

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

True, though Roy was going down pretty soon had he lived, within a year.

[@neilledejongh1290]

Says Who GOTTI WAS A CAPO He Had Soldiers Working Under Him And He Had No Choice PAUL DID NOT LIKE GOTTI So When GORTI Underboss NEIL DELLOCROCHE DIED He Had To Mke The First Move Or Paul Wouldve Put Out Word To Get All The Gotti's Killed..

[@Newrippleeffect99]

This story made me feel sick. 🤢 Absolutely disgusting

[@BatmanPops]

Imagine eating a meatball sandwich made from 100% nevermind lol 🍖🥖👀😂😂🤢🤮🥴

[@strangelovemd1]

Loved when the camera moved. Mood set

[@houseofclubs2437]

They need a movie about Roy....I've known about him since the 90'z.... straight phsyco

[@thedude4672]

Inside Man (2023)

[@alexvasquez7036]

Mike definitely some people that went to that lounge

[@mrski749]

Most of Roys victims were not mafia made men. They were guys he did business with that got in his way or were suspected to be weak or talking to cops because Roy had connections in the NYPD that would ket him know if anyone was talking to the cops. We used to watch his fireworks shows in the summer from across the canal. I still live close by . His old house is falling apart. Especially the back yard.

[@johnjeffery6638]

Yeah it was just business...😮

[@raventalks2776]

Not buying that Michael didn’t know anyone who got the Gemini treatment 😮… his reaction was not normal 😬

[@MoejiiOsmanTV]

Exactly. It’s all in the eyes

[@largegod77]

Wtf u expect him 2 say ...no statute limitations on murder

[@raventalks2776]

@@largegod77 saying you knew people who were killed is not admitting you killed them. I know a few people that were murdered. Doesn’t mean I done it

[@americanzombie1802]

I think the reaction is to Vlad’s questions always going on about something gruesome that took place because it’s his main area of interest it seems

[@ghostrider764]

🤫

[@DIGGWHATIMSAYING]

Vlads gleefulness discussing this, is disturbing

[@joshburns6625]

Says the guy watching an interview of a former mobster.

[@jimmyjameson8705]

Hope they got a few politicians ...

[@Richiedagger87]

Vlad has brought up these inflated numbers of murders with Michael several times and gets the same answers every time. He knows that Michael doesn’t really like to talk about murders in general And always gets the same uneasy reaction but continues to try to push him to talk about that stuff. It’s like Vlad forgets what they’ve gone over in previous interviews making him look stupid. He’s just trying to get a video clip that he knows people will click on so he can get the views.

[@nillehessy]

yeh but the psyops in this question and answering is these killings were mostly murder for hire jobs on people outside the maffia and in demeo´s case another profitable catering to the regular underworld and he wasn´t the only one surely

[@1Deep43VA]

Yeah. You’d think he could come up with some new questions… it’s like his whole job.

[@jameskarins1717]

michael looked mad uncomfortable as vlad geeked out on the killing method

[@ImmortalOutlaw84]

Clickbait ..BINGO!!!!

[@russcooke5671]

Imagine a guy called Vlad asking about Dracula.

[@tldoctor2497]

Why did it say Jabari Hayes made 100k doing blank when I first clicked the vjdeo

[@mb-pc3zn]

John Gotti wasn't stupid he waited for Roy to get whacked first before he made a move on Paul castilano.John would never even try to whack Paul if Roy was alive cause he knew Roy would go to war and John didn't want that.Everybody was afraid of Roy and that's a fact.

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

Roy was going down anyway.

[@thedude4672]

No, Gotti waited until after Dellacroce died to whack Big Paul. Roy was whacked years before Big Paul.

[@franklinmohlala955]

Not Vlad I mean "Val" educating Michael about Roy de Meo😂😂😂 Vlad let the man speak, we don't wanna hear you that much

[@marohan]

Francese is being coy. The Lufthansa heist people got wacked. Sammy did 19. The Columbos had many wars.

[@Terminal-Vet]

I don't care when people in that life knock each other off. DeMeo did things that went too far. I can't abide killing civilians, and I definitely can't abide peddling kiddie porn. I don't care how dangerous you or your crew are. You don't do that.

[@cjhandly6159]

When Vlad is describing the method of the murders, Franzese looks like he's cringing a bit imagining it, so either knew people it happened to or has seen similar things and isn't completely desensitized to it. Vlad, while he's excitedly reading something he read as the first paragraph in Wikipedia, is completely detached from what he's talking about and it's just this story to him, like a movie, and the reality of what he's describing, the fact that it is something that really happened to real people, obviously isn't as real for him as it is this other guy. It's just this numbers thing, where he's impressed with this 200 kills and wants to hear if he should continue to be impressed or not.

[@Tonybologne805]

When you’re from a certain section there’s gonna be people that you like that most don’t

[@fgentertainment9468]

Supposedly Roy was targeting regular people not just mobsters. He would close the Gemini lounge and lure drunk people (Mainly black and Latino people) or anyone vulnerable like that into the back apartment and do the Gemini method.

[@KIRRAH1]

Murder INC were more active in the 30s and 40s but yes went into the 50s too

[@imran15cassim]

If it's 2 People a month then its 24 people a year and in a decade its over 200 people, definitely is plausible that the Demeo crew whacked so many people.

[@AuschwitzMyPants]

They were killing more than 2 people a month broski 😂😂😂😂. Roy and the Gemini crew were killing anything moving.

[@papaguapa1361]

wow I actually live close to Fountain Ave in Brooklyn. They made a mall around there and a community. Crazy

[@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available]

Vlad's one sick puppy. I'm just amazed he hadn't brouth up the rape scene from American Me.

[@lilboomiv7313]

He’ll bring it up right after he mentions how he partied with BMF

[@jamesj4253]

First he has to tell how he was ripped off for a key of coke and he changed his life around

[@merlinsing]

You can tell when the interviewer is questioning him about Roy,,…seems like he had his own demons and memories come up….chilling!

[@vladtv]

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