Michael Jordan ruining the Cavaliers needs a deep rewind | CHOSEN: Chapter 2

[@SecretBaseSBN]

Welcome to Chosen: Chapter 2! We adore you and hope you enjoy and if you find yourself totally confused, here's a quick link to the first episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3OxdGaQlN2cqK8

[@jackonamacyt]

I beat Secret Base!

[@T.H.E.O.R.Y.]

Will secret base do an in-depth dive on each of the other moribund franchises such as the Kings, Magic, etc? Or do they have to win a championship first 🤔

[@jackonamacyt]

@@T.H.E.O.R.Y. idk man

[@SecretBaseSBN]

@@T.H.E.O.R.Y. if there's a good story, we want to tell it. stuff this size takes a while so we'll do what we can, and then we've got the more bite-size version of this w/ our series "Collapse" which has a Kings ep and a Magic ep if you haven't seen those yet!

[@purvalama6540]

LONG LIVE WEED

[@a1gamer561]

In order to understand how Cleveland won their first championship, lets rewind *cuts to WW1 in 1919*

[@NightfallMaster]

WW1 ended in 1918. Treaty of Versailles was 1919.

[@sigmagabriel6918]

@@NightfallMaster haha i thought the same, hello fellow european

[@16ktsgamma]

Actually it's after WWI 1919. The war ended in 1918.

[@Circuses]

Cant even tell a joke without fact checkers and right fighters lol

[@Anno023]

What if they actually reminded to the Roman empire which broke apart causing a dark age in europe which led to England becoming big, which led to them in France becoming big, and the roman splitting became the byzantines, and the byzantines got overran by the ottomans. Which denied western europe of the indian spice trade. Which led to western europe having to go around the world to get indian spices. Which led to the western hemisphere being found, which led to the seven years war, which led to the american revolution, which led to France running out of money, which led to the French revolution, which led to napoleon, which led to the holy roman empire being disbanded, which led to Prussia taking power. Which led to Germany becoming powerful, which leads to world war 1, which led to the us implementing a treaty.

[@hulk6785]

Think about this: Ted Stepien was such a bad owner that the NBA had to make a rule to stop other bad owners from being as bad as him. That was unprecedented incompetence.

[@a.e.a.]

They need to make an Dolan/Prokhorov rule too lol.

[@brennanbeyer5645]

They should make a Weird Rules about it!

[@acgeewhiz]

I also think a “Weird Rules” on this would be pretty fun, lol.

[@meharinationsportspodcast2582]

He actually made Don Sterling look like a saint. That's very hard to do.

[@chaosgreyblood]

Unprecedented, willfull AND deliberate incompetence, considering the deals he made and his intended move towards Toronto.

[@waltertaylor4665]

Mentions Dell Curry: oh yeah, that's a fun coincidence Circles back: well, I'll be damned

[@blowc1612]

Well that’s the same time Curry was born. History might had been different.

[@justinmartin1831]

Steph was born in Akron, OH same as LeBron. Very weird indeed.

[@blowc1612]

@@justinmartin1831 it’s Cavs decisions in the past that always haunts them.

[@LeoBan99]

@@blowc1612 sadly true

[@notbennett7321]

@@justinmartin1831 in the same hospital too

[@ChiseledAdonis]

Masterclass story telling

[@fausto412]

Lookup nba storyteller on youtube

[@Anonymous-km6su]

But your commentary's legendary

[@courtenayblair2279]

Bro, I gotta give you credit. This is the second or 3rd video by a different creator I've seen you show love. From the east, to the west....

[@dozhadeville444]

My guy ✊🏾 Jordan transmografied the Cavs

[@mattv930]

STFU BE HAPPY WITH YOUR OWN SUBS 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

[@alekhine80]

When Knicks get a championship Seth is going to do a 5 hours series of deep rewinding

[@rogregg29445]

Lol yeah

[@charleseithreimv]

it's probably gonna last longer than most Netflix series

[@drlee2]

We’ll all be in the Matrix by then.

[@Wolverine8721]

Bro that series will never end. Daily posts reminding us that the Knicks won

[@enthusiastofcute]

Bold of you to assume the Knicks could win a championship in our lifetime

[@blovett0814]

That ending with the trade of Dell Curry leading to Steph and finally LeBron was truly amazing. Can't wait for Chapter 3!

[@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly]

Other than LeBron this is the only period of sustained success in Cavs franchise history

[@MauricioBarragan]

I see you comment on like every video I watch bro. You have good taste lol

[@jonathanparker1774]

Funny only success Dubs had before Steph Curry was Rick Barry 😂

[@seannborba8416]

@@jonathanparker1774 they did have run TMC for a little while. They didn't win anything but they were fun to watch

[@philosophersfountain]

@@jonathanparker1774 and wilt

[@swtchmx]

we’re trying to change that now lol

[@7XDDM]

Once again, this series is really good. It's fascinating to witness the Jordan years from the other side and see how impactful he was on the league as a whole as teams scrambled to try and beat him.

[@xXEliminatorXx99]

And all Jordan needed was a 2nd option and a rebounder to secure his first three rings. Crazy

[@NBAKING149]

@@xXEliminatorXx99 big 3

[@1124-w9d]

@@NBAKING149 ? MJ was the only all star on the Bulls when they won the first ring in 91, and Horace grant was a career 1-time all star (94). Scottie was a legend and I love Horace but i wish ppl would just stop with this big 3 nonsense.

[@NBAKING149]

@@1124-w9d in response to the take above sayin wat was needed 1st option 2nd option 3rd option.. and yea mj aint have nothin to worry bout wit james worthy and byron scott injured.. and scottie taking the defense roll on magic

[@jamesbrickner5159]

@@NBAKING149 Incorrect Nick Wright. Receipts below www.reddit.com/r/VintageNBA/comments/fmjwop/pippen_guarding_magic_in_the_91_finals_myth/

[@Joe-ck9gj]

Love this series so far. Seth you’ve outdone yourself.

[@MoralesCorner]

@@twerktospec the length ?

[@cookingwitchefzayy8830]

@@twerktospec that's not what she said 🤭

[@MoralesCorner]

@@twerktospec it might be to the one praising it right ? Also it's obvious it requires more work to produce it. Also that's not what she said

[@Blackoutwhiteout23]

@@twerktospec tryhard lmao. Why you leaving hate comments on this channel lmao

[@dominoaxelrod]

@@twerktospec might be time to take the contrarian hat off my man

[@mattlyle11]

Can we talk for a second about "Heroin : The Sedative for Coughs?" How did anyone survive the 1920s?

[@bradmurray1736]

You needed opioids to survive the 20s LMAO

[@someguy1515]

Maybe junkies just have really bad colds

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Same reason they gove opiates now to suppress coughs- also this gen is weak af

[@dozhadeville444]

Think how many people that made important decisions made those decisions on Heroin!

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

@@dozhadeville444 AMEN! MAKE THE WORLD GREAT AGAIN- ON HEROIN!

[@somregularguy]

40:22 “while the greatest player of the 1990’s destroyed Caviler hopes, the greatest player of the 2000’s was growing just a few miles away, it’s time to meet LeBron James” that line still gives me chills man, I never really looked at it like that

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

Lebron aint the greatest player of the 2000s you trolll

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

And Jordan is the greatest player of all time. Trolll

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

No one cares about your irrelevant chills trolll

[@hulk6785]

Also, World B. Free is a dope-ass name.

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Oh. Hell. Yeah.

[@jonathanmolina6224]

Forreal, just saying it makes you feel badass lmao

[@dozhadeville444]

Gonna change mine to: Thiss Hitcrazy

[@sojiroseta98]

I have a feeling this is what Meta World Peace was goin for 😆

[@Thor-Orion]

World B Free playing for a blind businessman mega-philanthropist.love it!

[@apostalote]

“And the Cavs dealt them some promising young players in return for Love” Promising young players: Andrew Wiggins and Anthony Bennet

[@tyrokertaylor1723]

At the time they were but...now yeah you know

[@kvltizt]

Andrew Wiggins is more useful than Love now but yeah, at the time...

[@cottonmather8146]

@@tyrokertaylor1723 Anthony Bennett should've been known as a bust since day 1. That 2013 draft was pretty weak, but they chose the shittiest lottery pick

[@mussman717word]

Not all promises are fulfilled.

[@oof3479]

@@cottonmather8146 Giannis should have been 1

[@furioussherman7265]

Cleveland: *Exists* MJ: **And I took that personally**

[@Thor-Orion]

Most of us do.

[@GoonToAnGoblin]

I’ve been patiently waiting for this for 2 weeks

[@KawhiLowry]

Me too

[@roberthenderson3760]

Yeah me three LOL but, Now I have to wait TWO MORE WEEKS!?!?!? I LOVE S.B. Nation but oh My God! Why are they doing this to us?!?? I can't take it! LOL. P.S. Seth is the best.... How great is his narration?!?? He really takes you back to that moment

[@redherring9951]

Impatiently for me

[@reeddollars5717]

How you wait 2weeks?

[@lwitte8857]

Love the relatively consistent portion of most nba franchises timeline that can be summarized as “IT’s MICHAEL JORDAN!”

[@cooperhutson7869]

You can tell how much Seth just loves the sport the way he talks about all these other teams that are rivals of his own Fanhood. It's just a good way to look at a sport, appreciate greatness and become invested in its storylines and history. Love this channel

[@BigE1293]

Absolutely loving this series as a life long Cavs fan in his 20s who didn't get to witness any basketball before Lebron James and doesn't really know the history behind those early Cavs teams. Can't wait for the next chapter to come out

[@BigE1293]

@Harry Engel True! I was actually at the game where they retired his jersey number. One of my favorite Cavs memories

[@JacobZiggy]

I’m in the same boat. This series is helping me really appreciate those Cavs memories I have even more!

[@lindopool]

Gonna have to make myself a snack and some coffee to watch this. 41 mins of great sports documentary coming up!

[@WilliamJohnson-ml7ij]

Only 41 minutes? Well guess that'll have to do

[@jaydisqus3353]

I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it. Job well done.

[@IntAmoeba]

Have been following LeBron career whole life.. literally I know every thing about him.. still I got goosebumps when you mentioned "it's time to meet LeBron James"

[@MrOctober44]

Lol. Understandable

[@angelusgnz5784]

I was 6 to 12 when that line hit

[@SujoyChakravarthi93]

I swear to God I would not be surprised to find out that Lebron commissioned this series, in particular the next chapter, as his response to The Last Dance - cannot think of a production team more capable of putting together a rival masterpiece. GG as always, Secret Base 👏🏼

[@FelixSalazar]

This is one of the best sport documentary I ever seen. No content from ESPN match the level of passion you showcase here. The way you introduce Steph Curry,going back to his father expansion draft pick to Charlotte, is simply, cinematic. And every bit of information is presented like that. I'll never forget that Curry's dad played for the Cavs. Kudos

[@noahmaruyama335]

0:00 It’s June 19th, 2016, and Iman Shumpert is sporting a haircut that can only be described as “reverse man-bun.”

[@slanderman3296]

Weve all been there

[@ghosa.4434]

@@slanderman3296 speak for yourself

[@slanderman3296]

@@ghosa.4434freedom runs free

[@unitedleagueofgamers3633]

@@ghosa.4434 I don’t like sand

[@aceassn716]

He’s with Teyana Taylor though He doin very well

[@StellarLobos]

Oh my GOD this so good. Like, "should be featured on every existing sports network" - good. Like, "I was on the edge of my seat to the point I almost fell into my monitor" - good. Like, "I have to rewatch both of the first two chapters again right before watching the next one" - good. Y'all are insane and I hope you get ALL of the attention with this incredibly written, voiced, and animated quality content. I'm a big, homegrown CLE sports fan that never really appreciated the Cavs' history so this helps a LOT (really only got interested in the Browns about 5 or 6 years ago, and now intently watch/listen to everything NFL). I was always under the assumption that the Cavs were always this middling team that never truly rose to greatness because I never really paid attention to the NBA. But this deep dive has been incredible and probably the most entertaining sports documentary I've ever seen; and this alone is getting me interested into paying attention to the NBA, and namely the Cavs. To be clear, I've always paid attention to and appreciated CLE teams, but because of the volatility of the NBA and recent influx of superteams (Heat, Warriors, Nets), it just never seemed interesting enough to watch because the season just seemed to be a forgone conclusion from the outset. But with your documentary, and with superteams getting upset quite frequently in recent years, I am definitely going to watch more basketball. So thanks a lot, and for the love of GOD please never stop making this amazing content!

[@TurntUpTurtles]

cheers from one Cavs fan to another! the sport of basketball is a great one, hope you can find enjoyment!

[@Jayluna98]

Holy crap this was a great part 2! The ending where it starts to talk about LeBron growing up not so far from Cleveland, very thrilling and got me excited for part 3.

[@tinohong8335]

LeThanos: "Dread it. Run from it. Destiny still arrives."

[@rashb3994]

This series is turning out to be fun. Who would've thought I'd be getting into Cavs history. With that said I love those Price, Daugherty Cavs teams, because like the LJ, Mugsy Hornets or Shawn Kemp, they're a part of your basketball childhood.

[@David-iv6je]

I lived in Seattle during the Kemp years there. We loved him, but the guy had some screws loose. He and Payton would have won a ring if Kemp had not been such a head case. SO it was good they traded Kemp before his drinking got out of control. The sad news is they got Vin Baker, another emerging alcoholic. Sigh.

[@ojiparker4135]

@@David-iv6je Well,Dennis Rodman was more of a head case than Reignman.....he really needed a true psychological type coach such as Pat,Phil or Pop n he would have at least won a title.

[@David-iv6je]

@@ojiparker4135 And yet Rod's reign was so much longer, eh? He certainly did not waste any of his prime. Kemp maybe blew 6 years. But that's the difference between whatever illness Rodman had (depression?) vs alcoholism with Kemp. High functioning alcoholics eventually become low functioning alcoholics. I've seen it too many times. And the margin is far thinner with pro athletes.

[@Swank0623]

It is absolutely insane how drafting the right player ONCE can change your entire franchise

[@jakebuchsbaum3348]

That’s what Steph curry was to the warriors

[@johndebono1870]

Not to take away anything from Steph, but I'd argue drafting Klay and Draymond was just as if not more important for the Warriors. As the LeBron Cavs 1.0 shown, you can get blessed with a superstar player and it doesn't mean much if you can't build a championship roster around them.

[@jakebuchsbaum3348]

@@johndebono1870 no I understand that but he was the first part of the foundation for the dynasty

[@blackscreen1810]

@@johndebono1870 Steph was by far the best player on the team even with KD

[@jonjones8819]

@@blackscreen1810 The warriors aren’t winning those back to back chips without KD, KD was their best player.

[@Durgen213]

Count Dooku Voice: "I've been looking forward to this."

[@seannborba8416]

The Gund Bros to Stepien. "You have interfered with our affairs for the last time"

[@not2be4gotten02]

Was not expecting anything near "bar fight partner to Brett Kavanaugh" to show up in a series like this

[@saji316]

Loved that they swiftly moved passed it XD

[@ledpedicel5888]

Crazy how many good teams were denied rings during that time cause of the Bulls

[@zaynedale8120]

Balls in your jaws

[@skepticalstagedactor3248]

Because 90s were scripted to MJs career. The same thing lebron is scripted to this era.

[@graffProdigy]

Maybe he should’ve just gave up and teamed up with other Superstars like Lebron? If he would’ve done that, he would’ve been known as “The best” or “The GOAT”.

[@AlphaandOmegaHere]

@@graffProdigy After hearing Lebrons Political Advisor (LITERALLY) talking to Rachel Nichols, I now understand why his name keeps being mentioned with players he doesn’t compare to.

[@graffProdigy]

@@AlphaandOmegaHere that’s all basketball has become... it’s disgusting.

[@MrReese]

I just love how you guys tell stories. Thanks so much for going in depth and telling us more than we most likely knew before.

[@DAX_BEATS]

Y’all seriously might be the best sports channel on KZbin and this is one of the best series I’ve watched, keep up the great work

[@mrmacross]

The Wilkens/Price/Daugherty Cavs are kind of a forgotten squad in history. The 1989 team tied the Lakers for the second-best record in the NBA, but also had the best point differential in the league (+7.6). The 1992 team also tied Portland for the second-best record in the NBA at 57 wins. I think they get forgotten because they didn't have the year-to-year consistency of teams like Portland, Phoenix, Utah, etc., and their best ever pre-LeBron squad got bounced in the first round. Also, not sure it was said in the video, but their regular-season record against Chicago in 1989 was 6-0. When Jordan said they'd win in 4 games, it was almost like Brandon Jennings' "Bucks in six," if only Brandon Jennings was an All-NBA caliber player.

[@thesmootsays69]

the blue and black cavs jerseys are the GOAT cavs jerseys and i won't hear otherwise. also, inexplicably, brevin knight was my favorite player as a kid, which is why i settled on charlotte as my favorite team in 2004. i love pain.

[@withalittlehelpfrom3]

So while we now see the late 80's/early 90's Cavs as Jordan's stepping stool to greatness, the fact they even still existed, let alone became playoff contenders, is a miracle! Forget the championship-weathering the Stephien days seems way more difficult.

[@AlexJMerry]

I know you guys won’t see this but for the past 3 months I’ve rewatched this 12 times and every time it makes me feel better being a cavs fan. Appreciate it

[@eidessa9]

You could have chosen to make another "The Worst" NBA owner episode for Ted Stepien, or a Collapse episode about the Mark Price-era Cavaliers. Instead we get this long-ass documentary piece. You love to see it. Thanks for this.

[@ja8ames]

Just a great, fascinating video (series), wonderful work. I want to give a shout out to Cleveland for drafting both of the Alaskan star players from Duke, Trajan Langdon and Carlos Boozer, both briefly pictured here. It was such a big deal to see players from AK on the national stage.

[@french_frie_king3326]

You guys really need to do something like this about the 2004 Boston Red Sox

[@jeremyli9212]

They won't cuz they are a new York based group

[@samortmann5003]

@@jeremyli9212 What does that have to do with it? They've made multiple videos critical of new york teams: Collapse of Giants, Nets, Jets, and Knicks, beef history of A-rod and Jeter, Rewinder of Yankees losing to diamondbacks and mariners in the playoffs, Patrick Ewing untitled, John Starks NBA finals game 7.

[@jeremyli9212]

@@samortmann5003 Sure, but never Boston positive

[@roxieroll8101]

Or the Cubs 108 year drought.

[@samortmann5003]

@@jeremyli9212 They did Vinateri's game winner over the rams, Malcolm Butler's goal line interception, A 28-3 the worst, Bruins habs rivalry, Cam Neely Ulf Samuelsson beef, and the Leafs Bruins 4-1 game 7 collapse. And The Larry Bird-Bill Laimbeer beef. And Paul Pierce Quenton Richardson beef.

[@Spidahman4283]

Dude, this is your best work, and on par with Dorktown's Seattle series. I had forgotten a lot of the inner workings of those early-mid 90s Cavs teams, and how good they were/could have been. Thanks for this.

[@twentyseven2948]

Playing Harper as a PG is a great move by Phil Jackson for that second three peat.

[@mandu6665]

He was so good on that Bulls squad. Glad he got some rings after the Cavs and league did him so dirty.

[@razkable]

@@mandu6665 he probably would of stopped the 92 bulls the way the knicks had they kept mcdaniels and wilkins would of stopped a three peat.... crazy how these teams make these mistakes that create title teams...

[@elyocampo5169]

"Draft picks are the gifts that giving,as long as you don't giveaway those gifts Ted" nice quote,good one Seth,that mades me laugh 😂

[@boxboyboodey5624]

Never been more ready for a Secret Base video

[@Slimc74]

Those late 80s cavs teams would dominate today. Shows people how great Jordan was. And how great the nba was in those days

[@projectAcy]

can you guys please occasionally make even mediocre content so i don’t have to reschedule my day around your releases?

[@michaeldas4983]

this is like my favourite thing on the internet. whoever made this is a genius.

[@pandoralover21]

James is the greatest player of the 2010s not really the 00s.

[@LaskInHD]

Greatest player since MJ.

[@pandoralover21]

@@LaskInHD no doubt. But id say kobe or shaq or duncan were the best player in the 2000s. But no question james was the greatest in 2010s and probably 2nd best all time

[@splashbros-yc9lk]

Yeah it’s between Kobe and Tim Duncan for 2000s, imo I’d say Kobe

[@dozhadeville444]

True

[@dozhadeville444]

@@LaskInHD Not! Greatest since Kobe maybe

[@sojiroseta98]

This series has been incredible, this is legit ESPN quality stuff, yall need to get a raise!

[@lucasbell4831]

40:29 > "The greatest player of the 2000s" Mr. Duncan and Mr. Bryant would like a word, SB Nation.

[@johannesschroder943]

Let's just give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they were talking about the century or millenium in which case they'd be right so far.

[@MrBird2007]

Especially Kobe Bryant

[@jochaldo8076]

Lebron is better than both

[@lucasbell4831]

@@jochaldo8076 Yes, but he wasn't in the 2000s decade.

[@MrTimLee84]

as far 2000-2010....just Mr Duncan even though Bron is better than both

[@zumbi2000]

People forget how nice Mark Price really was. It’s understandable considering the overall greatness of that era but put some respect on his name none the less

[@anthonyroundtree5]

When I meet younger people and they talk about the greatness of Lebron, I just explain to them I lived during the Jordan years as a Cavs fan. They just don't understand being on the other side and watching your team being unable to get over that hump.

[@Djiehh]

This is by far the second-best series on KZbin that I've ever watched. Sorry Seth, but nobody will ever match Jon Bois' masterpiece on the Mariners.

[@kierbot-wv1vg]

Michael saw the future of the cavs with his goat competitor and made it is his mission to destroy them everytime he saw them

[@AjKChad79]

word

[@gl424]

MJ: You people think the Cavaliers are going to be "The Team of the '90s". Okay.....I'm going to show you that they're not.

[@kierbot-wv1vg]

@@gl424 😂

[@mcelus912]

Chapter 2 was about to end on such a cliffhanger before that LeBron spoiler! But, seriously, props to everyone involved in this production, you all went above and beyond to deliver a series that has been amazing so far.

[@AdeptaKerillian]

God these are just so, so good. Astounding work as usual.

[@tehsamjones]

This is next level journalism

[@toxicmelody6228]

Jordan got all his teammates from the Cavs and Pistons lol

[@redpillfreedom6692]

Harper and Kerr weren't stars, Rodman was in his mid 30s. Harper came over from the Clippers, Rodman from the Spurs, and Kerr was already on the Bulls when Jordan returned from baseball. This claim is inaccurate.

[@EvilGenius815]

This is really tremendous. I've been a fan of Rewinder from the beginning, but this is something special.

[@elliemyers6435]

The 1996 draft part is so interesting. Kobe's reps REALLY wanted him in a major media market, like LA or also New Jersey (the nets were really interested in him and played right by NYC at that point), so I wonder if he would've played for the Cavs had they picked him. Both Kobe and the Lakers were all about each other, so it seemed destined he'd play there, but, you have to wonder what could've happened had someone else picked him.

[@jimjuly6074]

Speaking of fun Wardell Curry birth hospital trivia, Wardell Sr. was born in Harrisonburg VA and the hospital at the time is now part of the JMU (my college, Go Dukes) campus (the Student Success Center). It’s not often I get the opportunity to drop Wardell Curry birth hospital trivia

[@SonicDMonkey]

Fantastic video, this is 30 for 30-like quality. When I saw the duration was like "nah, I'll split this into 3 parts" but ended up watching the whole thing in one go. Again, great work.

[@kevinwillette5161]

At no time was Danny Ferry adequate in Cleveland. They had to give him minutes because of the contract, but he couldn't rebound, was too slow to guard SFs, too weak to guard PFs, couldn't create offense for himself or others, and his passing was not as good as promised. He could hit stand still shots if he was WIDE open. That's it. Then Popovich somehow turned him into a valuable rotation piece which just boggles the mind.

[@KingRooney89]

You even managed to get in Curry’s Double BANG into the video! Bravo 👏

[@theflyingsamuraii]

good music choice at 23:00 got chills knowing how the game was going to end

[@ultimatebeing2348]

Still trying to find the name of it lol

[@theflyingsamuraii]

@@ultimatebeing2348 Uncharted Space · Edward Kosowski from the credits, nice melody but no payoff unfortunatly.

[@ultimatebeing2348]

@@theflyingsamuraii you..are a life saver..thank you! And full credit should definitely be presented, it's what makes these videos so much more better

[@TheCodyPlayzMVP]

Me whos been waiting all day and is dead tired: finally after this video i can sleep

[@STTDB1990]

It's always a great day when SB SB nation uploads a reminder video

[@vicksburgtomplsthemississi9127]

Been waiting for episode number 2 for too long!!! Thanks for the great work Secret Base!! I cannot wait for Minnesota to win a Superbowl and get a similar feature. Or just a feature now on Minnesota sports bad luck.

[@felixravelo3950]

Undoubtedly one of the best storytelling and event counting, this guy should be with his own show on FOX or ESPN, something calling the time capsule ( Saludos desde Republica Dominicana )

[@AdamEidelsafy]

Masterful finish, can't wait for the next part.

[@LetMeEatDem]

LEBRON JAMESSSSSSS

[@sensethevillen]

The way you guys do your research and put everything together whilst having a tone that’s non bias… Respect.

[@JoseTorres-rn1fh]

Fantastic series! I am really joining this history of the Cavaliers. Keep up the astonishing work, Seth! You’re a great storyteller.👍

[@geoffmann3760]

The high quality production value and superb story telling should be part of the future of this channel. I’m sure countless hours were poured into this to ensure the historical accuracy. You guys are sitting on a gem of a model for continued growth and success.

[@AnacondaHL]

The only reason Kevin Love's defense on Steph was "good" is because Love was so slow both in reaction time and speed that Steph's pump fakes and the sidestep ended up giving Love more time to recover and get into position.

[@aidentheorc2124]

Success via failure.

[@ahahaha6228]

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[@blackscreen1810]

Also the refs swallowed there whistles

[@dominoaxelrod]

@@blackscreen1810 yeah, it helped that he was able to tug on Steph's jersey without getting called for it

[@heathsmith7698]

You have no idea how eager I was for episode 2. You are killing it!!

[@plutokickdoe7037]

Been waiting for this like Cleveland waiting for a championship

[@DomKickPicks]

Yet again, a KZbin page putting a better basketball doc than main stream media could ever 😂 you deserve a high paying job for this quality of content!!!

[@Joemight13]

Yup 😂

[@Guelph35]

Last year we got a 3 hour Dorktown about the Mariners. This year a couple hour Rewinder about Cleveland, next year I expect a 6 hour Sox-Yankees Beef History

[@HockeyGod256]

this series is one of my favorite things this channel has ever uploaded. basketball isn't even a sport I follow

[@that_chem_guy]

You guys need to do a series called "Mike" and talk about what it was like to play against him. I'll even give you guys the opening. Slow pull back from a black and white photo of MJ, voice over says "To play against Michael Jordan was to play against an inevitability. He was unstoppable, unbreakable, and completely unique. Who would dare to try to stand between this, The Undisputed King of Basketball, and his crown of rings? Quite a few people, it turns out."

[@asaptrav]

i've been subscribed for 3 years and have always been blown away by how meticulous and well crafted each video is. This is an amazing series, just like everything else you guys do. Keep up the great work, can't wait for chapter 3!!

[@CloudCobra22]

4:35 love that we can just overlook the Heroin right there.

[@justintaylor6604]

These are so good, I can’t wait for part 3! People that are not from North East Ohio have no idea how hard it is to root for all these teams from Cleveland. Jordan spanked the Cavs, Modell took the Browns away from us and we’ve been stuck with ineptitude until recently, the mid-90’s Indians might be the greatest MLB team to never win a World Series. Our sports teams are either a joke or an afterthought. So no, I will never hate on LeBron for leaving a second time. The 2016 NBA Championship means too much.

[@tric5122]

When people talk about how Jordan never faced any great teams, they leave out teams like the Cav's, who were supposed to beat them and be the next great team. I HATED the Cav's, they played the Bulls tough every game, and not dirty and physical like the Pistons, they played the Bulls tough just b/c of youthful talent. That entire team was stacked. They've been forgotten to time b/c of the greatness of those Bulls teams; and it's a shame b/c it was a team that should have been a dynasty if not for Jordan Pip Grant and Pax.

[@angelusgnz5784]

He didn’t. Who was the second best player on the Cavs? Was he on the level of pippen or prime Horace grant ? No. That narrative is indeed a true one. Name a player that jordan faced that was on the level of Steph Curry or Kevin Durant. It’s that simple.

[@tric5122]

@@angelusgnz5784 Here is someone that doesn't remember, or wasn't alive in that era. The Cavs were seen as the better team, and the next to Challenge the big 3, Lakers/Celts/Det, they had Daughtery, Ferry, Ehlo and Price, along w/solid bench play. It was the original MJ took it personally, next to no one had the Bulls winning that series, not even Chicago media.

[@angelusgnz5784]

@@tric5122 you’re talking about media hype. hype that every era’s best player had to deal with. all this “they were supposed to be, nobody believed in the bulls, they were saying the team of the 90s,” blah blah blah. Anybody with a brain could’ve told you after the first year that the Cavs were absolute pretenders and were in no similar league as the bulls. don’t change history and act like Jordan was facing Hakeem in the finals or Tim Duncan, kevin Durant etc.

[@tric5122]

@@angelusgnz5784 if by media hype you mean all the sports and NBA analysts ya. Guys that knew the NBA projected that. It wasn't like ABC's news head anchor.

[@angelusgnz5784]

@@tric5122 yes the same way the pacers were thought to beat LeBron’s heat. People thought The houston rockets were gonna beat the warriors. ESPN analysts thought the buffalo bills were in the same class (and we’re going to beat) the Kansas City chiefs last year but everybody knew at the end of the day who the better teams were. Stop mythologizing jordans opponents like they were the spurs dynasty or kobe-Shaq lakers

[@loganrusso39]

I don't know if I'd classify Mack's 6 month prison sentence as "obscene," but great job on this documentary.

[@chunky9791]

Fun fact, cavs buying draft picks is up there with the nets trading Kyle Korver a top 10 3 sniper of all time for a copy machine that broke in 2014!

[@savagekruger77]

Lmfao

[@MH_Niall]

"What, copy machines are expensive" 🤷‍♀️

[@arp_909]

The amount of work that must have gone in to making this is staggering. Hats off, really well done SB team

[@utho8080]

I love how the Last Dance changed sports docs forever

[@thomasrinschler6783]

Actually, go and watch their documentary series on the Seattle Mariners, which is amazing, and came out *before* Last Dance...

[@DanialStreetFighter]

Man, these videos are gold for anyone who wants to learn about basketball history.

[@jakemitchell1132]

You know how bad/inept of an owner you have to be, that the NBA allows you to buy first round picks? Jesus, Ted really was the worst.

[@chunky9791]

I won't forget my sixers getting korver for a copy machine lmao. There's some stupid ass GMs out there idk how they get their jobs

[@yanazeb6390]

The deadpan way he says "Jordon" @28:26 just kills me.

[@ninjaz0rd]

So pumped for this series, I can't believe I haven't seen this until now. Can you make one of these for the Minneapolis Lakers and the Timberwolves?

[@nishensemble]

He'd have to work how LeBron ultimately succeeded in there somehow.

[@whenisdinner2137]

The funniest part about that career-high 69 point game against Cleveland is that it was also statistically the best game ever played since they started counting Steals and blocks as a stat

[@AdamEidelsafy]

Where there ever discussions around ending the second part with LeBron's Decision? That way the third part of this documentary could include the.... Return of the King.

[@cellamuert]

they're still like 20 years away from that lol. my guess is they did not think about ending the second part roughly an hour past where they did

[@Agent_1701-D]

Something tells me it might be entitled “Lebron Kills - and Resurrects - the Cavs”.

[@davidfalterman8713]

41 minutes?? Holy hell SB, y'all always going the extra mile for us, and we love you for it

[@therealplnts8533]

Can we just induct Seth into the hall of fame already

[@tomconneely1361]

Fantastic programme, brilliance in production and delivery. I think Stepien was the Robert Chase of American sport :D Would love to see a Rewind of the 2003 Wilkinson drop goal for the Rugby World Cup. Probably not your audience niche,you folks would do it so well.

[@wojak-sensei6424]

Imagine one for the Suns if they win it all this year. That'd be awesome! Love this series. Made me care for a franchise I don't even follow.

[@Vince11k]

One of the best KZbin series out there need more like these