Michael Jordan vs Lebron James Debate - Decided in Court

[@yunopepper76]

LeBron exposed for paying people to vote for him to win MVP will forever be a classic

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I know!!! I gotta talk about that soon.

[@PP-yq4fs]

No way….

[@TeamApeee]

False information

[@johnchapman8131]

Lebron airballs freethrows,Jordan makes em with his eyes closed.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Facts!!!!

[@racceflippa6723]

Who else besides Jordan did is the real question ⁉️

[@MKEL396]

@@johnchapman8131 Larry Bird did it too in the 86 season, I don’t recall against who but he did it in very similar fashion to Jordan except Bird wasn’t welcoming a rookie to the league he was shutting up a mouthy opponent. Kevin Mc tells the story.

[@jarlbalgruuf7701]

Anyone else remember that lowlight of lebron at the freethrow line and he says “imma shoot this one with my eyes closed” and then he bricks the freethrow 😂. if that doesn’t sum up the difference between these two players I don’t know what does.

[@BassKat169]

Lejuice is disqualified before the debate started.

[@johnchapman8131]

Lebron isn't even the best player of his era,and in many of his years,he hasn't been the best player on his team. I would take D-Wade or Kyrie all day,especially under 2 minutes to play

[@TheRealMindCrime]

He's usually not even the best on his team...

[@fairydust22002]

Guess what, know who Wade's favorite basketball player the goat is, Michael Jordan. He meet him more than a few times and likes him too.

[@MKEL396]

@@johnchapman8131 it’s facts, head to head in their prime I’m taking Kobe over Lebron, and that wouldn’t be a hard decision for me. A straight killer who was focused on winning and willing to do whatever he had to, to win as opposed to a media ringmaster who is more concerned with narrative control and amassed stats.

[@Coach_Love]

Lol chill with the irrational Bron hate

[@stoniearterberry-me5fl]

All these 'Bron fans be rockin' Jordan's but I guarantee there aren't any Jordan fans wearing trashy LBJ's.

[@RemoWilliams1227]

Lol I hadn't even noticed the Phoenix Ace Attorney thumbnail before, awesome. 😂

[@TheRealMindCrime]

omg you're the first one to notice it!! Finally!! lol. Thank you!

[@RemoWilliams1227]

@@TheRealMindCrime well I'm a huge nerd to be fair 😂

[@infamousknight6265]

I love how lebron fans bring up jordan getting swept but not lebron getting swept in 3 different decades

[@TheRealMindCrime]

😆 🤣 😂

[@sarahsloot2290]

I’ve never seen a bailiff like that when on jury duty…

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yeah but we wish we could lol.

[@jeffreyreid6981]

Yeah, he got sweat but he wasn’t the reason he got swept he dropped 63 the night before he dropped 50

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yet they pretend like MJ choked. No, he overachieved lol

[@Taj_Rahine]

Same, Magic was better than Kobe and Lebron in my opinion. I have Kobe over Lebron.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I got kobe and magic at my 2 and 3 spots too. Kobe over lebron any day for me. But I like to win so I'm picking the guy who also wants to win. Kobe.

[@jeffreyreid6981]

And the problem with that is, they couldn’t stop Jordan

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yessir! 💪

[@bigwingston7489]

When someone truly passes MJ as the goat, we'll all know and it won't even be a debate I believe

[@weswarden2216]

This guy arguing for lebron is annoying... and he's up there lying about shit...he's lucky I'm not the one he's debating with bc id make that dude look stupid.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Thats how all lebron stans sound lol. They just make crap up.

[@Arrowflynn1897]

How can anybody make a goat out of a player who cries every time he misses a layup and claims he was fouled. He makes his team play 4 against 5 on defense, complains to the refs and shows them up and doesn’t get a technical called. The only time he runs is when he believes he can get a layup.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I know...I think it shows how different generations are. 80s and 90s we would all be laughing at bron and calling him a chump. "Bench his lazy butt!"

[@jammiebooker6489]

I never heard of anyone getting killed over a pair of Bronze shoes.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I never heard of anyone wearing them lol

[@jammiebooker6489]

@@TheRealMindCrime 🤣 I bet he gave a few pairs out to the sycophants with that Klutch check for the MVP vote. I bet Perk has a few pairs of Bronze shoes, but laces up the Jordans

[@sarahsloot2290]

Horace Grant made an all star selection for my Magic! I always liked Ho Grant, but he’s not carrying a team, he’s a positive contributor.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Absolutely! He is a fantastic role player. Solid defense. Good on the rebounds. Every team gets better with a guy like HG.

[@Arrowflynn1897]

Phil Jackson was never a winning coach til he came to the bulls. What did pippin do when he played with Barkley and Olajuwan he did nothing averaged a high one year of 14 points that being his highest average after not playing with Jordan. Jordan did more for pippin then a combined Barkley and Olajuwan.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

100% no one else seems to remember that Phil was a rookie coach. Kobe inherited the zen master but he created that persona during the second bulls 3peat.

[@jeffreyreid6981]

I should’ve represented Michael Jordan against Teletubby. There’s some things they don’t even know about because he wasn’t even born yet. He said he never beat Larry bird with a 1984 on his way to the Olympics. Michael Jordan played against the NBA All-Stars and beat them eight times straight magic, Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas, this is before Teletubby was even born

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I agree! The whole time watching it I wanna jump in so badly to defend mike

[@jeffreyreid6981]

On the biggest stage, he has won more than LeBron KD combined

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Facts!

[@lamarlashley8738]

Not more 6 each

[@10oneluv10]

The LeBron guy contracted himself. He kept emphasizing that basketball is team sport, yet faults Jordan for having solid roll players.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

100%!!! He laid his own trap without realizing it lol.

[@johnchapman8131]

Lebron dribbles off his and other people's feet. Lebron has 15 + minutes of shaqtin a fool highlights.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

😆 🤣 😂

[@seebbsss]

For some reason, every time there's a debate about this Mjs side never have good facts and LeBALCO fans just make stuff up that is not possible to prove xD It's easy to debate against LeBALCO... Most finals games loses, most playoffs games loses, more regular season games lost, swept 4 times, lead the league in missed shots, 3pt missed shots, ft missed shots, turnovers (by over 600). In 21 years has only been able to get 4 rings and one of them was a bubble ring so it's more like 3 1/4. Flops, cries, blames, chokes and chokes and chokes some more, excuses, fires coaches, teammates, runs away, etc etc... His only achievement is to have over 40k points... but guess what if you add his misses and turnovers he's missed over 43k points so the "GOAT" has a deficit of over 3k points. (and this doesn't even include 3 points, since I just did the math with 2s so it's a lot worse) There is no GOAT debate. MJ's name should never even be brought into the same conversation as this bum loser... (just in case anybody wonders, MJ has +2600 if we add all of his misses and turnovers)

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I agree! I would love to debate on the mj side. Gimme a few days to prepare and memorize some stats and I'd go to town.

[@6Strng]

being swept early in your career in the playoffs is much different than being swept in the finals, it can't be compared

[@Westside833]

Missing the playoffs early in your career is even worse then being swept. Stop it

[@6Strng]

@@Westside833 where did you see me say anything about missing the playoffs ?

[@Westside833]

@@6Strng your comment was clearly a comparison of Michael Jordan being swept in the first round vs lebron James being swept in the finals. And I’m saying lebron missing the playoffs is worse then Michael Jordan being swept in the first round

[@6Strng]

@@Westside833 yes I agree with you missing the playoffs is worse then being swept in any round but I think being swept in the first round isn’t as bad as being swept in the finals

[@Westside833]

@@6Strng absolutely!

[@bobbywatson6983]

It's Mike All day for me not LeBlame James 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@archieleonard4299]

MJ didn’t have to play with the entire league and still come up short.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Nope. He took down the league with hard work. He didn't join them.

[@screwhead303]

Unless a player is HOF worthy on both ends of the floor (offense and defense)....no player can be considered better than MJ and, by extension, Kobe.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Thats how i feel too. This isn't football. You have to master both ends of the court.

[@screwhead303]

@@TheRealMindCrime ohhh, and I forgot Hakeem. He could have made the HOF on either strickly offense or defense as well.

[@Arrowflynn1897]

Doesn’t he realizes that Jordan had more first all team defense, plus the only defensive player of the year the bulls ever had

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Its ok to have a different favorite player than the best. I loved steve nash, d wade, etc. But i knew they were the goat. He likes derrick rose which is cool but he shouldn't have said it in this court setting debate. I knew that would work against him lol.

[@racceflippa6723]

I'm say this again who else made free throws while their eyes closed

[@TheRealMindCrime]

That was Mutombo's welcome to the nba moment lol

[@jammiebooker6489]

If Jordan's dad wasnt murdered, he very well could have won 8 in a row like the Celtics did back in the day.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I think so too. I was never mad at him for retiring after that. Just sad about the situation...

[@Lomno12]

I am not so sure about 8 in a row... Undisputed GOAT but even i don't believe in 8 in a row. Too much toll on psyche and body... Different game then in 60s...

[@mikeprolas2027]

I feel like in the Olympics nba players. Are gonna try to force their game to the Olympics and will lose to teams playing team basketball just like 2006

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Me too man. I really think we get Lebronze medal again.

[@danieljett3251]

League was working against MJ winning as an owner, to protect the golden child.

[@jammiebooker6489]

I was gonna step out of that shadow, but i didn't try.... I was gonna win those 8 chips too, but I didn't try... And now my big ass is in Cancun, and I know why....hey hey....because I just cry, because I just lie, because I don't try - LeBron James Remix

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Because I got high Because I got high 😆 🤣 😂 I like your remix man

[@maggot9276]

I never been that deep into the GOAT conversation, yet I binge your videos anywhere I can for nearly a week now. I can see why The Matrix called Lechoke a BITCHHHH.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Hahaha. Thank you so much! I used to avoid it. Just say its mj all day and walk away. But i realized how many lies are being spread around and this we done with the 90s thing really sparked me to enter the battle. I'm good with facts vs facts but when people start making up lies about MJ to bring him down a level then I'm there to fight it lol.

[@lioninthesun]

Peak for peak i would even say wade is more impressive than lebron. Remember as a third year player he won the championship and took over with a broken down shaq and a bunch of old vets. That’s better than any finals lebron had. But all time rankings I would go with lebron but he’s not better than magic, bird, kobe, mj, hakeem, shaq, kareem, wilt, and I would put lebron at 9. He’s just missing those alpha intangibles and leadership. He rarely takes responsibility. And his play style is way too ball dominant. If he played more to the jordan style of scoring or to the magic side of facilitating he would have helped his teams win more. He wanted all the glory.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

100% Prime wade beats prime Lebron all day for me.

[@jeffreyreid6981]

He tried to say that Jordan never lost nobody ever said that with Jordan never lost on the biggest stage

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yup. We never use that argument. Thats made up from lebron stans. All we say is MJ never lost in a championship setting. College, Olympics, nba. Never won the big game/series.

[@joellugo4758]

I was born and raised in LA. As soon as Lakers got bron, I became a warriors fan. Soon as bron leaves, best believe I’ll be repping purple and gold again.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I respect that! If Lebron comes to my suns next year I'll be a Mavs fan until he leaves.

[@sarahsloot2290]

Also, MJ was a top 15 player in the league in the wizards after a couple years of cigars, bourbon, and 36 holes a day… and he played to contribute to a garbage team, and set an elite example in work ethic. Wizards were on track for the playoffs before his injury, the wizards years are not as bad as they seemed at the time, and the seemed bad because Jordan is the ruler by which we measure greatness.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Absolutely. He showed one last generation what's possible with hard work and dedication. He was the oldest dude out there and he was working harder than everyone else.

[@Vancouverallday]

Perfectly said about Mike not being a quitter!! He did it in honour of his dad! And also how can you be a quitter to play another sport??

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Thank you! Drives me crazy when people say he quit. He was honoring his father who just got murdered and everyone shames him for it. Sick world we live in.

[@garagespooky8193]

Heck, Lebron wears more Jordans than Lebron’s.

[@mr3inkredible509]

They made a play in tournament just to help the Lakers lol😂😂😂

[@Taj_Rahine]

The offensive rebounds total for Horace Grant is misleading because offensive rebounds weren't even tracked until 1973. So he is not really top 20, but many people either were not tracked for multiple seasons or their entire career.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Good point!

[@CLYMA1.5CHAINZ]

Born in 1987...MJ my GOAT.

[@jammiebooker6489]

Haha....LeBron only wins when he has someone to take that clutch shot for him....one guy passed the ball and the other guy took the shot

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yup. He always needs that shooter to save him.

[@goliath9081]

Jordan

[@TheRealMindCrime]

The real goat

[@kauffamn1016]

The situation he was in ? He stayed on the same team . And made it a dynasty . Lebron , could never make a dynasty , could never three peat , could barely win any championships until he joined a super team , and that’s with him playing in a weak conference for so long . Look at lebron now in the west … can’t even get to the finals , at all . No one respects lebron , and his shortcuts he’s taken n his career. Also yes , my 7 year old watched space jam 2 . I could never.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Exactly. All of sudden its a bad thing to stay in a long successful relationship? We celebrate someone who just floats around from marriage to marriage? Its weird to me. MJ stayed in chicago and faced the tough times. He deserved the good times thay followed the hard work.

[@zacharaymosley1315]

1:12:20 So he’s basically saying if Jordan won his 6 championships by team hopping his championships would be better LOL!! That’s just gonna making him look like a mercenary like LeBron.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yup! That's what the lebron stans are saying. Imagine celebrating someone who had 10 marriages that lasted a few years each over someone who stayed married to one person his whole life. This gen is weird lol

[@TangySapling164]

D-rose was legendary🌹

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yessir. Vid on rose coming soon

[@jammiebooker6489]

LeBron better have a Johnny Cochran hologram

[@TheRealMindCrime]

😆 🤣 😂

[@sean_mayhem_l.d.t3833]

When Labron comes even close to this he might crack top 5 all time 6 championships 6 finals MVPs 5 regular season MVPs 10 scoring titles 9 first team all defensive 3 steals titles DPOY Rookie of the year Olympic gold 3 all star MVPs 2 dunk titles Only 5 players in NBA history have won the NBA championship and scoring title in the same year Shaq 1 time, Cream 1 time, George Miken 1 time, Joe folks1 time, MJ 6 times. From November of 1990 until he retired from the Bulls in 1998 MJ never had a 3 game losing streak that’s 632 games without losing 3 games in a row 312 game more than anyone else. MJ has 70 games where he scored at least 40+ points on 60% shooting 35 more than anyone else. MJ is the only person in NBA history that won the MVP, scoring title, first team all defense a NBA championship and finals MVP in the same season, and he did this 4 times! MJ has the most scoring titles and first team all defensive in the same season with 9. MJ is the only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and DPOY in the same season, and his 35 point scoring average is the highest of all time by a DPOY. MJ 32.6 ppg is the highest in NBA history in a championship season. All time recorded MJ is the only perimeter player in NBA history to average 30 points per game on 50% shooting and he did this 5 times. All time recorded MJ holds the all time record for points scored in a season 11 times, and the all time record with 10 scoring titles Wilt Chamberlain is second with 7, and MJ hold the all tme for highest ppg scoring average for a career at 30.12 against Wilt is second at 30.07. He also hold the all time record for ppg playoff record at 33.45. MJ holds the NBA record for most points ever scored in a playoff game 63. MJ holds the record for most consecutive scores in the playoffs at 13 consecutive scores without a miss. MJs playoff records Most free throws made in a quarter 13 Most field golds made 24 Most 50 point games 8 Most 40 point games 38 Only player in NBA history to never score fewer that 15 points in any game he ever played in. Only player in NBA history to never be held under 20 points in a finals game. MJ has the most blocks by a guard in a single season at 131 not only is he first on the all time list he is second also with 125. MJ played 24 games as the starting point guard and averaged 30.4 points 9.2 rebounds 10.7 assists and 2.5 steals on 50% shooting. And a stretch of 10 triple doubles in 11 games, On the year he was first in win shares first in PPE and first in plus/minus. MJ played 82 games 9 times in his 12 seasons with Chicago, he only missed 7 games in 12 season out side of his second year in the league when he broke his foot and missed most of the season. At North Carolina he ran a 4.3 40 yard dash. With a 48 vertical. As a Rockies MJ lead his team in points rebounds assist and steals he’s the only player in NBA history to do that. CLUCH For MJs career he was 9 of 18 in the playoffs with less than 24 seconds remaining to tie or take the lead in the 4th quarter or overtime, he was a perfect 3 for 3 when facing elimination and 4 for 7 when his team had a chance to clinch. MJ playoff runs they were 42 and 0 in the playoffs and 210 and 5 in the regular season when leading by 10 points going in to the 4th quarter. Fewer than 20 points MJ 155 times Bron 255 games

[@TheOmnisProject]

I was born in 85. I watched but didn’t really comprehend 91’. Fully noticed what i was seeing against Portland in 92. From that moment on I loved hoops. Jordan was a zenith

[@TheRealMindCrime]

That's so cool! Jordan made fans out of so many of us who would never had cared about basketball if not for him.

[@KamrenMCOC]

I'm always confused about the 94 bulls argument like did they not just 3 peat?

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I know lol. If they never won again then it would be valid but they went on to win 3 more straight after that. Such a weird argument

[@jammiebooker6489]

Haha...shout out to the tuna. I love a recent Eli post I saw where he said he was invited to the Tom Brady roast, and turned it down since he roasted that ass twice already 😂

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Lmfao!!!!!!!!

[@Arrowflynn1897]

A goat should never have a losing record in 10 finals appearance. Jordan won with more different players than lebron. Hr had pippin for 6 six finals wins and beyond that the most length of time was 3 years and their was only 4 of them

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yup. Those 2 three peats were completely different teams. MJ and Pip even played different the second time around.

[@bigwingston7489]

Damn upload rate on point💪🏾

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Lol thanks. I'm taking a break til tomorrow

[@raywoodfin6465]

Tony baker is awesome both guys are entertaining. But MJ just wins on every aspect.

[@Vancouverallday]

I say to my mom and look at her man why you didn't birth me earlier so I can truely see all his careers trials and tribulations see his greatness his athleticism. I was able to see his last 3chips and that was special but man I'd like to see his whole career. Born in 88 btw

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I'm thankful I was born in 82. Started watching him closely in 87 and started playing basketball non stop as a kid because of it. It helped that my brother is 4 years older so he got me watching and playing early. I got to see the Pistons beating him up and we would get mad but I remember how good it felt when they finally beat them in 91. We both thought the Lakers would win the Finals because Magic had the experience. Little did we know we were about to see non stop dominance from MJ. One of the reasons why I love the Wizards years is because I watched him from a 5 year old all the way to adulthood.

[@Vancouverallday]

@@TheRealMindCrime man you were about to see the beginning of Jordans excellence against the Lakers. Keep running it in why don't ya lol

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Lol. Sorry man. At least you got to see him before it was too late!

[@danieljett3251]

Bron only recently passed MJ in offensive rebounds.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

😆 🤣 😂 he's taller, buffer, and played 5 more years than mj and finally did it huh? Thanks for the stat. Thats a good one.

[@johnnewsham5193]

I watched space jam 2 with my son who doesn't care. We enjoyed parts of it. I loved the scene where LeBron had to pick his team and couldn't find enough help... Then they said he could have Michael Jordan on his team and his eyes lit up huge... No spoilers beyond that...

[@TheRealMindCrime]

No way!!!? That makes it almost funny enough for me to watch. Space Jam 2: The Search To Find Lebron Help

[@johnnewsham5193]

They have more arguments than those two, they also have: "stop speaking facts you hater"

[@TheRealMindCrime]

😆 🤣 😂 I get it all the time in my comments.

[@Braintree2Station]

The GOAT because he grazes with zebras.

[@theboston3386]

Instant subscribed to both channel. Laughed so hard with you.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Thanks!! I had so much fun making this one. Soooo frickin funny.

[@ReaperCrew2682]

This was a fun watch. After all of this im gonna say this. 1 day there will be a new GOAT. That day isn't today. And it sure isn't L36ron James. You can't pass MJ when u haven't even passed Kobe Bryant yet. If 21 years to pass a man who played far fewer and did more wasn't enough. Its just not gonna happen for u.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Thanks reaper! This was one of the most fun vids I've done. I agree, one day there will be a new goat. It just isn't time yet. Wemby, Luka, Joker, Ant, etc....we'll be watchin.

[@AaronGonzalez-l7b]

That bailiff is FINE🎉

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Right!?

[@weswarden2216]

Kobe > lebum

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Easily!

[@weswarden2216]

@@TheRealMindCrime lebron not even a legitimate top 10 all time talent... that dude said kobe fans are delusional. I've never in my life seen a fanbase more delusional than lebron fans... these guys are a joke

[@dumazipeliukai]

This channel has good vibes.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Thank you!

[@sarahsloot2290]

Apparently this is all ad lib too. I watched it a couple weeks ago

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Oh I think so too. They are just improvising. They're really funny dudes lol

[@aaronwoodard4377]

When MJ won that first title i wept with Joy, when he held that trophy next to dad, i had tears of joy , pure elation, happiness

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I know how you feel

[@SayItAintDash]

HOLY SHIT MY WORLDS CROSSED OVER. I LOVE DEFIANT DIGITAL DAWG.

[@Rookie30590]

You on the grind today. Road to 50k.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Lol. Thanks rookie. I plan a video or everyday and sometimes i feel the need to talk about something else the same day and go for it. I was at a graduation with some friends and we were talking about antman so that sparked yesterday's impromptu ant vid lol.

[@Rookie30590]

@@TheRealMindCrime Haha keep going man. Btw Lebron has gotten 9 coaches fired I believe (including Darvin Ham).

[@FriedPickle964]

1:03:11 I had to rewind a couple times “no stanima” is crazy😭

[@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212]

@1:01:50 Bro, I know. Which is why you have to react to VLAD TVs interviews with Aries Spears (from MAD TV). Just type "Aries Spears interviews Lebron Jordan" and you'll get a plethora of delightful retorts and rebuttals to these sycophants.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

lol ok, i'll get it out.

[@ayres1009]

The guy representing Jordan could have dismantled the LeBron argument easily. I don’t know why he didn’t.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I know! I don't feel like he was prepared lol.

[@zacharaymosley1315]

1:08:13 I like how he just told a cold blooded lie 😂😂.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

😆 🤣 😂

[@TygerClawGaming]

It's annoying when people say "Jordan had to wait for the Piston to get old to win.Then say "But, but he had Dennis Rodman" bro wasn't Rodman like 4 years older...and WAY off the reservation by time Jordan had him? lol. This was entertaining. Also...how u gonna hold having a father in his life against Jordan like that's what your argument is? Dang. LeBron fans are weird but we knew this already!

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Bulls second 3 peat they were the old team lol. They still won.

[@CasualGamerPlays]

I hate the fact that people gloss over Jordan's father being murdered and calling him a quitter. Also, people always leave out the entire story and/or important context when doing the Lebron vs Jordan arguments. But what's funny are the same people arguing for Lebron being the GOAT, are the same ones rushing to the stores to buy the latest Jordan's.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yeah if I remember correctly I went off on that topic lol....too many people in my comments calling MJ a quitter because he retired. His dad got murdered. Those people make me sick. And not a crappy dad. His dad was his best friend and main support system.

[@bogdanoprea8967]

well, tbh i don't see what aspect of his game makes lebum great. I could name 50 retired players and maybe 20 playing now that are better players, meaning: a variety of moves to score, a better all game def, no rest when on the floor, no flopping, better fundamentals, at least they could dribble the ball without carry, travel and fouling and i could go on. If the nba didn't help lefraud he wouldn't have the power he has now because he's just a mediocre player either way and it shows.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I agree. Thats why for so many years I've just been calling him a good player. He's not elite in any category. He's just good at most then bad at a few. How he is regarded as one of the greats blows my mind.

[@BiffsCoffee27272]

The Boston thing... like Larry Bird wasn't a freaking monster.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Exactly!

[@PimpaStyles]

I have one pair of lebrons and to this day i haven’t wore them maybe a few years from now when people don’t know what they are

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Ahhhh thats a good call

[@Arrowflynn1897]

I saw the first one also and he definitely bear him.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Yeah that first one stung.

[@yesandno8268]

The fact that MJ only needed the same coach , sidekick, and system to win 6 rings is proof he’s the goat He doesn’t need to abandon his team to join super teams , promised 8 rings and got owned an old mavericks team And then got owned by an old Spurs team Furthermore , leflop gotn6 coaches fired and played with a lot more superstars in their prime and still lost means leflop is the problem Wade won a ring with an old fat Shaq in 2006 but lost when prime lebron joined I can keep going

[@TheRealMindCrime]

agreed agreed agreed!

[@weswarden2216]

This wouldn't even need to go to court... its obvious Jordan is by far the superior player...lebron not even half of what MJ was... hell lebron not even top 10 for that matter let alone on Jordans level.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I agree with you wes. Its these young ones who never saw mj play that blindly say its bron.

[@ssh__778]

Pretty funny video, I will definitely checkout that channel. Uncut hoops put out a good video today on Klutch sports trying to diminish Jordan’s DPOY award

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I watched it a bit ago honestly. I don't really wanna comment on this trash hit piece by klutch because I think drawing more attention to it is just feeding into their hands. Bottom line for me is, even if he got less steals than recorded then he was still gonna be dpoy. Even if he wasn't dpoy that year then he's still a better defender than lebron and still the goat. Nick wright is stupid and doesn't deserve any attention. Lol. Sorry, maybe i should've reacted to it. I guess i have stuff to say lol

[@ssh__778]

@@TheRealMindCrime true, Nick Wright is a slimy piece of shit. Rarely does he say anything of value or worth listening to. Hearing shitheads spew bullshit propaganda for LeBron makes me think less and less of LeBron. I totally respect MJ and Kobe, some of these other guys not so much. Just go out and play your ass off and the results will most likely show where you rank, no need for a BS propaganda campaign.

[@finitedesigns8430]

It's quite wrong to say the Phil Jackson system worked for Jordan. MJ also made the system work and made his teammates fit into the system

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Agreed. It was harmony between the coaching system and MJ.

[@RMSNOMORLIMA]

Nope...soon as my Kids told me about that new Space Jam joint...I was like, we can watch the original as with most things in life, the original is almost always better than the knock off

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Glad to hear it!!

[@sarahsloot2290]

I think the rings show the greatness, but it’s not just getting 6+ rings. Kobe elbow haymakering Mike Bibby (and many similar plays in a few year span)… puts him below MJ. Jordan punches his teammates so that they wont be outplayed by the Bibby’s. Jordan absorbs the physical assaults and the pounding makes him a diamond in the rough. That said I Kobe #2 but I think 2-7 is highly contested and nearly interchangeable, and Bron won’t be in that conversation for me.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Agreed. I got Kobe 2 as well. The rest of the top 10 move positions a lot with me lol.

[@josephlanhardt4338]

Surprised he didn’t say he got Kobe and magic ahead of bron like most logical thinkers do

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I do too lol

[@dylantubbert1665]

Bill Russell is the GOAT in my mind, MJ right behind, and then Kobe. I'd even put Tim Duncan ahead of LeBron

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I respect that very much

[@RicardoMartinez-bq7mh]

Let's start calling Lebron, Horseshoes. The only sport where being close gets you points.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

😆 🤣 😂

[@wizmanballin8498]

Those was.funny but Tony could really be a lawyer😂👍

[@TheRealMindCrime]

I know! I stand by it, if I'm in trouble I'm calling him to represent me lol

[@biffbobfred]

In the 90s, when WGN became a superstation, the NBA sued. They wanted to sell a huge package of NBA games in exchange for a dump truck full of money. But, Jordan was available on WGN superstation. In court the NBA said “Jordan is the league” they then settled I’m sure WGN got a small dump truck full of money So, yeah. Unless the NBA argued in court “LeBron is the league” you are correct this was settled in court

[@ianking672]

😂 my daughter loves Lebron and I don’t think owns 1 pair but has like 12 pairs of Jordan’s 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TheRealMindCrime]

lol!!!!

[@JamereOfficial]

I swear they bring up anything but on court skill to make a case for bron being the goat lol

[@TheRealMindCrime]

😆

[@zacharaymosley1315]

59:15 He’s gonna be introduced in the Hall of Fame on August 17, 2024.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Well deserved!!

[@sarahsloot2290]

Lebron outweighs Grant and by far Rodman, and outjumps both easily, and the guy barely gets offensive rebounds.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Thats what drives me nuts about lebron. That talent he has is wasted because of a lack of effort. If he tried as hard as Grant or Rodman he would be the goat. But he is lazy out there on defense and rebounding. He gets wide open rebounds. Never boxes out.

[@sarahsloot2290]

@@TheRealMindCrime it’s an absolute blessing for MJ to have gotten cut from the varsity team early on in high school. I’m sure he already had an ingrained work ethic, but early heartbreak inspires even harder work or quitting and we know which direction MJ took it. I have some sympathy for LeBron, being deemed the “chosen one” from age 17, and being a high impact player in the NBA at 19, and making the finals year after year in a pretty weak East… that doesn’t motivate someone to put themselves through hell to win. And without that early smoke up his ass, maybe he isn’t making goat comments after Kyrie ices a tough series… And I see a guy that knows he’s not Jordan, and so wants to be, and insecurity that he’s not living up to what the world has told him he is, surrounded by yes men, unlimited funds, and he’s afraid of being seen as an imposter. His hype entering the league set him up for this losing GOAT conversation. On top of not measuring to MJ, his game and disposition and ethics on the court are just not inspirational and if my child acted like LeBron in competition I would be embarrassed. 😳

[@TheRealMindCrime]

For sure Sarah. MJ always talks about being cut from the HS team being a huge motivator for him. No one ends up a decent hardworking person if they've never been told no or faced rejection. This definitely helped MJ build that character and not feel entitled. Also, I don't have kids but if I did I'd teach em to never act like Lebron when winning or losing lol.

[@shoots8598]

Born in 85 and MJ my goat, then kobey. Now I'm a big fan of Curry, and i predicted curry breaking nba records b4 he got to the nba

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Good call on Steph!

[@johnchapman8131]

Phil Jackson quit playing in the 70's. The coach dont win games

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Agreed. Plus when he started coaching Jordan he was a rookie coach....most have no idea

[@lioninthesun]

87 magic was still better than mj wasn’t he? Bird too. I know mj didn’t have the team but I can’t say mj was better than magic when magic was winning back to back and mvps

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Agreed. I always say starting in 1989 MJ was the best in the world. Before that we all knew his potential but because he hadn't won a ring yet we still considered magic the best. From 89-98 there was no doubt who was the best anymore

[@wee6801]

We're not winning Gold in the olympics, let's stay hopeful and maybe get a bronze.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Sadly...agreed

[@Mhr6685]

He said people get finals MVPs not being the leading scorer on their team for guarding LeBron. MJ never lost a finals, so we shall never know. And Larry bird is my favorite player of all time, but can’t deny the greatness of MJ

[@fairydust22002]

MJ all day!!! I was born in 82 also.

[@TheRealMindCrime]

Oh wow! That's so cool. No wonder why already we have similar views on bball.