Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy | Lex Fridman Podcast

Michael Malice is an anarchist. Yaron Brook is an objectivist. Both are podcasters and authors. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
2:33 - Desert island thought experiment
7:50 - Communism
11:20 - Immanuel Kant
12:29 - Donald Hoffman
23:00 - DMT elves
31:42 - Humility
48:35 - Jordan Peterson and religion
58:13 - Ben Shapiro: facts don't care about your feelings
1:12:14 - Why Ayn Rand is controversial
1:33:51 - Selfishness
1:37:33 - Communism and fascism
2:04:32 - Authoritarianism
2:12:52 - Bitcoin
2:39:03 - Anarchy debate
3:36:58 - Dangers of communism
3:42:37 - Favorite character in Ayn Rand s Atlas Shrugged
3:51:15 - Advice for young people
4:08:14 - Does love require sacrifice?
4:16:02 - Back to the island
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Ground News: ground.news/lex - Public Goods: publicgoods.com/lex and use code LEX to get $15 off - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil - Brave: brave.com/lex - Four Sigmatic: foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off 2:33 - Desert island thought experiment 7:50 - Communism 11:20 - Immanuel Kant 12:29 - Donald Hoffman 23:00 - DMT elves 31:42 - Humility 48:35 - Jordan Peterson and religion 58:13 - Ben Shapiro: facts don't care about your feelings 1:12:14 - Why Ayn Rand is controversial 1:33:51 - Selfishness 1:37:33 - Communism and fascism 2:04:32 - Authoritarianism 2:12:52 - Bitcoin 2:39:03 - Anarchy debate 3:36:58 - Dangers of communism 3:42:37 - Favorite character in Ayn Rand s Atlas Shrugged 3:51:15 - Advice for young people 4:08:14 - Does love require sacrifice? 4:16:02 - Back to the island

[@samsam18200]

1:31 - I'm the banana 3:35:11 - We all wanna have sex with our mother

[@amiracleone2803]

@@samsam18200 lol Lex wishes he was the Banana.

[@nickbutler6842]

That new Ground News Sponsor looks great. I’ve been looking for a news service like that for a while, something the world actually needs. Hopefully it can do what it promises. Thanks for the recommendation👌🏻

[@etymosmax9421]

Solid episode my dude.

[@FlyingMonkeyDevil]

Sadly, they really failed to grasp Donald Hoffman's work, and even misrepresented it.

[@Steve_Jarrett-Jordan]

This is the gold standard of long format podcast discussions.

[@Jaraiya89]

That's big facts I have to break this into three parts to absorb the info. Then probably re-listen to it a few times.

[@kramert3333]

Besides the fact that they talk over each other horribly, I agree.

[@gondalfthewizard]

Nixon is coming for the podcast then

[@mehhhhhhhh2215]

@@gondalfthewizard good joke

[@rnw2032]

Im very happy to have stumbled upon this. For me this is probably one of your most important podcast. Malice is wrong on anarchy. I like him a lot but he evades a lot and his definition of anarchy is incorrect. Anarchy does not mean voluntary, it means an absence of government. The thing he evaded with his private governance is that the examples he gave are all supported by government in regard to property rights. A good government is one which defends rights by punishing infringements of them(wrongs). Government is the entity in a given area with the monopoly on the use of force. Rights are inherent, inalienable, self-assertive moral principles that it is RIGHT for each individual to use their liberty and WRONG for any individual or group especially government to infringe on any individual’s liberty. Liberty is the individual’s ABILITY to think and to act. Freedom is when society respects liberty and rights. It is absolutely true that no totally good government has ever existed. That is undebatable. But airplanes did not exist until a little more than 100 years ago. And they weren’t perfect upon their invention, they still improve to this day. The point is that things that haven’t been realized as of yet are potentially possible so long as they are grounded in reality. Without an entity with the monopoly on the use of force it is likely that the competing security forces will vie for that monopoly position. And they may not do it on terms which respect rights. Before long you will have a few very strong security forces and then maybe 1, I.e a monopoly. Anarchy doesn’t last.

[@jintak8199]

Only Lex could get Malice and Brook on a show together. I love you Lex 💖

[@soapbxprod]

This is a philosophical feast! :)

[@steveeric6942]

100%, something special for sure.

[@trueanarchy2543]

Now, just to get them to debate.

[@a1b1c184]

Lex has the most interesting podcast going right now. I listened to the whole thing on 1.4 speed in one sitting and never got bored. Next I get Tim Dillon and Jordan Peterson and still haven't watched Weinstein's podcast this week. MSM cannot touch this.

[@lexfridman]

I love you too ❤️

[@bravo30062]

"I'm the modern day what's-his-name." That should be on a t-shirt

[@UseQPixinDune]

@Miles Doyle no

[@BlueisNotaWarmColour]

Or "I'm the banana"

[@FishinWithAlex]

I heard that while reading this comment 🤣

[@riphihe]

@@lrke5142 i concur bread - Lex bacon - Yaron banana - Michael

[@Impeach_the_queen]

I would buy this shirt if someone made it.

[@Chemson1989]

When Michael speaks, Yaron listens. When Yaron speaks, Michael listens. Respect.

[@alexanderfox-robinson4910]

When Michael speaks, Yaron speaks. When Lex speaks, Yaron speaks.

[@rafaelrocha5626]

except when they started talking about anarchy, Yaron listen very quietly and Michael interrupted several times like a child would

[@houseovragnar1528]

@@rafaelrocha5626 So he acts like every other person does sometimes? Woooah! Talk about insight.

[@rafaelrocha5626]

@@houseovragnar1528 yeah but saying that a bad behaviour is acceptable because everyone does sometimes it´s just very stupid, and Michael is doing in a scenario where he is supposed to stop talking and he does it every single time

[@christopherciolko2401]

Yaron is an idealogue

[@Christian-pj4vd]

JRE: We do long form conversations. Lex: Hold my neural net...

[@nathanaelguirguis7886]

cant listen to Rogan anymore, so glad Lex is here :D

[@tomdivittis2688]

😂😂

[@avengingme]

@@nathanaelguirguis7886 because spotify or because it got stale?

[@nathanaelguirguis7886]

@@avengingme got stale, i feel like the quality of guests went down and the conversations just arent as interesting. Joe rogan is how i know about Lex but havent seen almost any episodes lately that i want to watch

[@avengingme]

​@@nathanaelguirguis7886 Gotcha man, same here.

[@ThomistReview1950]

I had no ideal Yaron would be this funny in his interactions with Malice and Lex. I home to see more these 3 together because this was hilarious and really interesting. Way to go Lex

[@mariospyrros6340]

@@jumpinjohnnyruss xdddddddddddddddd

[@LibertyPanacea]

I liked Yaron's first appearance, it was interesting, but now I really like him as a person after this episode haha

[@CB-os4lf]

Yaron broke me with the line About Sam harris at the end

[@kristermister4791]

Agreed - the chemistry is killer.

[@sonderexpeditions]

Yep, their chemistry is awesome.

[@mrsorg87]

I was shocked to know both Yaron and Michael didn't met before, I just listened to 4h25 podcast with the feeling I was hearing two best friends talking to each other, the mutual respect the quickness in picking up each others jokes, never taking it personally, bullying Lex as a team. Plus the content, this was one of the best podcasts I ever listened to.

[@lilben4184]

Not shocking at all. All three participants in this conversation are tinyhats, and 2 out of the 4 people they talk about in this conversation (Shapiro, Rand) are also tinyhats. It's a big club, and you and I ain't in it. 🤷‍♂

[@itechnwrite]

@@lilben4184- way to reduce this entire conversation to racism. Your mentality. Your loss.

[@lilben4184]

@@itechnwrite Error 404: Counterargument not found 🤭 Cope harder.

[@AJ-tr5ml]

​@@lilben4184can't provide a counterargument to something that isn't an argument

[@hinerron]

Man watching a Lex podcast is like sitting in on the best conversations I wish I could have with people.

[@cosmicbeing1922]

ikr

[@RR-et6zp]

thats why he made the podcast

[@michaelflowers2970]

You Nailed It Ron!

[@zeytelaloi]

The nice thing about having two guests is that they can check each other in a way Lex would not check a guest.

[@sonderexpeditions]

Yep. Loove this!

[@israelgonzalez8200]

@Calvin Something typical anarchist. ADD MORE PEOPLE (For legal reasons: It’s a joke)

[@opportunitycost1342]

There is something so beautiful about intelligent well-reasoned disagreement.

[@sonderexpeditions]

Facts.

[@isaiahmacadam]

Absolutely

[@madisonpattinsonlove]

Ima steal this quote lol

[@brentenromano1432]

Excellent.

[@eswainz]

A real breath of fresh air in today's climate

[@joly8806]

This pod will go down in history as one of the top 10s of all time. Thanx 👌

[@loricoil1732]

I'm watching this a year after original airing and it's even more relevant than it was then.

[@reneprovosty7032]

quality rings true.

[@liamhawkins1699]

So enjoyable.

[@theyeticlutch3486]

It's a really great conversation

[@sebastianoviedo253]

And even more recently sadly with what’s going on

[@The_Rude_French_Canadian]

Lex I’m just wondering if you’re aware that you are filling the void left by Rogan on KZbin extremely well. Cheers to you!

[@arda8393]

Im slowly starting to dislike joes Personality, some moments in his podcasts are unbearable. His ego and sense of importance creates a horrible atmosphere. Especially when eric came on his pod a few weeks ago.

[@soapbxprod]

Lex is a true intellectual. Joe is an actor... a good actor, but an actor nonetheless

[@arda8393]

@@soapbxprod indeed. I do still thank joe for his episodes with the intellectually minded guests, they are still phenomenal, but not on the same level as people like lex and countless others. Lex can reciprocate and hes brilliant

[@76blackwidow]

@Blair Gordon I agree 100% to your point, Joe's personality starts to become more and more abrasive, self absorbed, know-it-all. Maybe he should do some Dmt again, learn to listen to people instead of constantly interrupting people and starting to talk something completely irrelevant.. and spotify is a pain in the ass to use. 😑 I like Lex very much, but his guests aren't very different from each other. I can't stand a one more episode of bitcoin. 🙄 These Malice episodes I love the most. But Joe's guests used to be more diverse and interesting to me a few years back.

[@arda8393]

@@76blackwidow we are on the same wavelength 🤝, i cant bloody stand the bitcoin stuff. I forget the guest but i think there was a 4 hour episode released in the past week with a bitcoin person but it was really insightful and was more on the fundamentals behind bitcoin so could be thought on past bitcoin. Was brilliant. Joe does have a wide range of guests but i never click on any that involve comedians or mma fighters. Lex had a pod within the last 10 days with a greek comedian and it was bloody brilliant, i get the sense that if that guest was on rogans pod the tone would not have been as joyous as joe would try to be funny amd prove hes part/equal to other comedians. And whilst im here can we just appreciate Jordan Petersons podcasts, they along with lex's are utterly flawless.

[@plain_simple_garak]

Yaron probably hasn't laughed this much since the 1970's. It's good to see, but Malice is the modern day trickster god, beware his gifts

[@allthesmallthings1041]

He is truly Loki

[@fuckamericanidiot]

@@allthesmallthings1041 I think he's more likely to be Tihi (tee-hee) - the kind that would put a firework in someone's tailpipe

[@okyouknowwhatever]

To be honest, his trickster persona feels kinda forced.

[@OrthoHoppean]

@@okyouknowwhatever Really? No way. He comes off as completely natural

[@okyouknowwhatever]

@@OrthoHoppean No, because he talks about it all the time, which makes it forced, like he's trying to talk it into existence. A real trickster is subtle. Also, how's it trickster to be an Ayn Rand fan? Ayn Rand was a middle of the road neo-liberal and is adored by many establishment figures ranging from Hillary Clinton to Allan Greenspan.

[@tatianaantoinette9086]

Lex clips got me interested in hearing the whole 4+ hours of podcast and it's so good, I've been listening to parts a second time. Lex, you have outdone yourself and you've grown into an EXCELLENT moderator. By far one of my favorite podcasts from anyone yet.

[@abtin1923]

Lex, you must know how valuable your channel is. Thank you for all of your hard work. I've learned so much. Please continue these podcasts.

[@alyosha5109]

Love these three humans... Michael is sharp as a whip and adds a great levity and originality... Yaron is deeply philosophically grounded and a great guide through reason... Lex is just a beauty of a soul... curious, intelligent, with a good heart. Love it all

[@desmondmc]

Really well put 👏

[@nugzila4170]

Lex is more if a teddy bear than I thought - of him a stoic.

[@faiz.shaikh]

I love you too alyosha

[@davidawalker800]

Seems like the Bannana (Lex)..keeps thems tied or like the srting of brilliant kites in the wind...this is a few times 4 hour repeat listen

[@OhAwe]

Agree. Just as sharp as a whip...

[@salmaoa9373]

I adore lex but it’s hilarious to watch when Michael teases him. So wholesome too somehow 😅.

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

It's because you can tell it comes from a place of love, that's why Malice is always going to be my favorite guest on this podcast. Always interesting conversations with lots of laughs and moments of genuine mutual appreciation.

[@AlexG-xl1cc]

They seem very close

[@alxsee1337]

There's not much better than teasing or seeing people you love teased.

[@itsmeekers]

I Love how naturally funny Michael is. I like how he calls Alex, Alex Jones even though they are friends.

[@ruben12121993]

"I find that the more I know, the more I know I know, the easier it is for me to learn from other people." - Yaron Brook. Beautiful.

[@slatanek]

One of the best discussions I've seen recently. Great minds and disagreement done right - respectful and funny. A pleasure to listen to.

[@alexandrepaquette870]

I love how Michael brings out hidden aspects of Lexs personality. He becomes somewhat less rigid

[@alexandrepaquette870]

You can almost believe its the real one lol beep beep

[@AndyMcCoyFTW]

yeah he opened up and was more sarcastic

[@samking3875]

@Lex Fridman 0010101100

[@rath6599]

Love how Lex hangs back and leaves the two of them banter on.

[@Steve-om4iu]

He didn’t learn that from Joe Rogan xD. I really gotta start listening more to this podcast. I’m missing out on many gems.

[@douglaskbrown1154]

Wow, watched the whole thing with only one interruptions! Thank you Lex, and Michael and Yaron!

[@tek.kemper]

I'm just here to comment on how wholesome this was to bear witness to. The amount of mutual respect and love shared one another by these three is definitely what more of the world needs. I love that they literally told each other that they loved each other at the end of this, yet there wasn't a moment where any of them missed a chance to bust the balls of anyone they were sharing the table with. This is what real communication and relationships are built on. Awesome stuff Lex, I can honestly say I'm a big fan of the all the people on this episode after watching the entire thing. It has been well worth it.

[@victoriaholmes675]

"i think self hate is quite destructive" "speak for yourself, Yaron" I DIED 😂

[@mayankhimself4389]

God wants to know your location

[@blurry.magnets]

Oh yikes.

[@eclipsenation6631]

@@RUSEOfficial ok cool

[@stevenbaas4011]

How could you type this when dead? I'm from Europe and seriously don't understand what you mean.

[@lennardchan2764]

@@stevenbaas4011 She means she's dying of laughter.

[@moe45673]

A long listen, but not a second of boredom. I am constantly surprised by how wide-ranging Malice's knowledge extends. It was also great to hear the two of them pushing back against each other

[@eankessenger]

CAN WE HAVE MORE MICHEAL AND YARON PLEASE

[@user-zi2qk4zi4w]

This was an inspiring conversation. It literally gave me the confidence to go speak at local town hall meetings.

[@wuvs2spooge]

Lex talks to Malice like Data talks to Picard "Look humor, did I do it right?"

[@guyephauqes6368]

It's funny when he realizes his humor is robotic and dry, which then makes whatever he said so much more hilarious!

[@sachindevaraj]

lex: i been a hugest fa... MM: are we recording? pure anarchy

[@Ayra_Is_Cool_lol]

When Michael said "Is it love Lex? Nothing's more real than love right?" I literally lost my shit 😂😂

[@Norfnorfnwo248]

Yo LEX, You rule! These conversations are awesome. Keep 'em coming.

[@brandonmassengale3642]

Lex is definitely at the top of the podcast game right now. Every new episode with Michael Malice tops the last one, and this one with the great Yaron Brook, is no exception.

[@howellbranham9460]

I love Yarron and Michael teaming up to pick on Lex.

[@rageatm4life]

I hope lex never goes to Spotify - definitely the best podcast available

[@stefaniecallista5027]

Omg yes

[@butter_nut1817]

spotify really isnt that bad

[@auduneikli9862]

This was great. Even 4.5 hours felt like too short, thanks to all 3!

[@ground_news]

Thanks for the endorsement Lex! We’re so excited to partner with you and support your work 🙌

[@lexfridman]

Thank you for your support, you do amazing work.

[@petardraganov3716]

Michael's expressions when listening to Yaron are priceless.

[@michaelrivell5659]

Amazing this literally couldn't be better. Malice and Yaron are the best 2 people to discuss such topics. They compliment eachother well. And Lex with his intelligence Nd natural curiosity was a perfect fit.

[@luposX]

Very cool podcast episode, Michael Malice and Yaron Brook have good harmony together, the occasionally jokes and their anarchy Discussion was a blast to listen to. Made my day :)

[@xikes]

Michael Malice is one of my favorite guest in these podcasts.

[@hobobbobho]

Easily the best episode you've had so far. Please try to get Yaron and Michael on again like this.

[@bendavies1926]

It is a testament to our times, the fact that this video doesn’t have millions and millions of views yet. One of the greatest conversations ever in my estimate.

[@AcidOllie]

This was bloody brilliant. Superb line up. Please get them both back on soon.

[@ericl1421]

Michael is so quick. Freaking hilarious.

[@nTrylo]

4 and a half hours holy shit. This is amazing.

[@johnbell891]

So darn good!!! Thanks Lex for bringing these gentlemen together ❤️

[@natashaom9731]

I could honestly listen to you three talk for hours ❤

[@Buddy_VanDoodle]

Don't fool yourself, Lex. You're the bread of this sandwich

[@cosmicmuffet1053]

Empirically, that could at best create an open faced sandwich. It's far more likely that he is the doctor's sausage, while Yaron and Michael are toasted sourdough heels.

[@FATMAN_tactical]

Banana bread

[@lorcanoconnor6274]

Isn't that kind of the premise of any interview?

[@soapbxprod]

Not the cream in the coffee? :)

[@cavejohnson4054]

Lex definitely doesn't like anarchocapitalism. He's definitely a big government commie. Especially his russian roots. And he dresses like a kgb agent lmao.

[@sarcastanaut]

It brings me great joy that there are others out there who enjoy listening to a brilliant 4 1/2 hour-long conversation. I wish I knew some of you in real life.

[@jonjmorganshow]

I so appreciate you bringing these different viewpoints ! We need this, not because one needs to agree but it’s about being well rounded and being able to conceptualize different ideas

[@meghanbuckley8879]

Thank you Lex! You are truly an inspirational podcaster. This was one of the best intellectual conversations I have watched since KZbin began.

[@zippytoad507]

Never saw a debate this good when I was in university.

[@bjenkin100]

but they are children

[@travisprugh6347]

Becuase one side actively trys to shut down opposing viewpoints. There is no more debate in university, its one side screaming down another.

[@travisprugh6347]

Becuase one side actively trys to shut down opposing viewpoints. There is no more debate in university, its one side screaming down another.

[@416dl]

Never has 4 hours passed more quickly. Thoroughly engrossing and insightful. Thanks for bringing these minds together. Looking forward to more and more.

[@1997CWR]

I had a big smile on though listening to this episode. Thank you Lex!

[@tonybrown4565]

This is essential viewing/listening to everyone with an interest in human affairs - brilliant thank you guys. Tony

[@katsmaintanklive]

MIchael: "This german shepherd was 3 times my size, but I've overcome that fear now that he's only twice my size."

[@bretthomas9425]

Two of my favorite guests. Thrilled when this popped up. edit: Malice ribbing Lex about love is hysterical.

[@Madrrrrrrrrrrr]

Not sure if evolution is conscious though.

[@Tehcarp]

please defend YB as one of your favourites. He's not even cute

[@bretthomas9425]

@@Tehcarp Yaron's an interesting guy to listen to. I'm not even close to being an Objectivist, but I appreciate his dedication to his philosophy. I don't agree with much of what Sam Harris says either, but that doesn't stop me from listening to him. And Yaron is a little bit cute for a boomer. :P

[@Tehcarp]

I was peeked by you saying favourite.

[@Rellikan]

This was such a blast. The personalities aren't opposites, they're all complementary like a 3 piece jigsaw puzzle.

[@brentulstad3275]

This was great. I really appreciate the 3 different "individual positions" but a mutual respect and interest in the discussion. I'm personally not too familiar with Ayn Rand but these general & specific points were pretty fascinating. I've been recently trying to get back to regular reading habits and control of my focus and attention, which unfortunately has greatly diminished in the last few years. Was on a deep dive into David Foster Wallace recently which helped to stoke some inspiration to get back to my personal library and I think this discussion has also done some good as a reminder of my passion for a great read. When so much of my free time is too easily spent on multiple podcasts, movies both nutritious and trashy, other media distractions.... I need to find/create the focused space to return to a great book. Thanks.

[@PierreH1968]

It takes courage, Lex to express your opinions, to be honest on contrevesial subjects. Without placating or offending, your guests, but listening. Your broad open curiosity, makes you a humanist truly .

[@brookej0]

It takes, courage, to learn, how, to use commas, effectively, 😉

[@PierreH1968]

@@brookej0 thanks! 🧐🙂

[@JamesAveyInTheShop]

@@brookej0 I like commas too much, too.

[@JLaw923]

Malice teasing Lex is one of my favorite things to watch

[@vib2119]

Super cool,witty,blunt and loving uncle-like figure(for me atleast,based on his interactions with Lex)

[@booni5114]

Time stamp please

[@SILVERONIN]

What... Is... Love? Lol always gets me

[@jieqi6341]

I love you Lex, thank you for another amazing conversation that makes me feel less lonely temporarily escaping from facing the uncertainty of my life and insecurity of my own.

[@dmitrym3757]

Probably the quickest 4.5 hours I've ever had in my life. Thank you!

[@KeithKnightDontTreadonAnyone]

Malice played a big role in making me a voluntaryist, this was great!

[@dalton8281]

@@willepiot2726 both induction and deduction are valid forms of knowledge. Induction allows us to use reason to form concepts based off of reality. Deduction allows us to use reason to integrate concepts into reality. For example we can induce the theory of evolution, and we can also deduce certain species and classify them. Also just a disclaimer I am in no way an expert and this is just how I understand human nature.

[@seanflynn781]

I've gotta hand it to you Lex, you've got the most interesting point of view in the world of podcasting. And that's not easy to do. Also glad to see Michael again, thanks for what you guys do.

[@soapbxprod]

Hey, he's a scientist! :)

[@eduardomoralesloya]

IMO this is one of the best intellectual talk shows ever. Keep up the good work Lex.

[@abalibanu]

Absolutely Mind-Blowing!!! Thank YOU ALL!!

[@phrankenstein-wrongthinker1994]

Holy crap, this is gonna be 4 hrs of delicious dialog

[@soapbxprod]

Oh so good! This is fabulous!

[@kurtoverley6560]

Quite surprising that Yaron did not understand that Anarchism = Voluntaryism.

[@benklingman]

There’s so much to digest will have to return

[@kurtoverley6560]

@@willepiot2726 A voluntarily funded state (for example, proposals for privately run cities) are examples of anarchy. Anarchy does not mean “no rules”, but rather no (coercive) ruler.

[@Steve83B]

I had no idea we would reach DMT and machine elves that fast

[@rangv733]

Lex learning from Joe Rogan

[@etymosmax9421]

DMT elves.

[@sunconuresolar2658]

Yeah that got weird quick.

[@soapbxprod]

LMAO! Thanks! What about bromulated mescaline?

[@rileypetrando]

@@etymosmax9421 it’s machine elves or clockwork elves not dmt elves that’s way less cool 😎

[@svengroot3909]

The best podcast I have seen on this channel.. love such long format conversations

[@AngelEarth2011]

One of the most interesting and at times funny conversations I've ever heard. Although I doubt I'd be able to contribute anything, it's a conversation I'd love to have been part of, but am happy to at least be able to listen to :) The other conversation that I enjoyed just as much was between Eric Weinsten and Lex, in which Eric asked Lex something like what do you really want to ask me.

[@bdelectr7411]

A 4 1/2 hour podcast? This is exactly what I need to get through some projects

[@vandyke5773]

This needs to be it’s own separate weekly/monthly podcast.

[@jacoballey21]

i just realized that ayn rand was NEVER part of any reading list in public school. like i maybe heard her name twice in 20 years

[@gnomasome4698]

I heard her name cuz of the band Rush. Their big long song 2112 is largely inspired thematically by the fountainhead. When I heard that I got interested n I read it. I was 12 when I read it and I won't lie it's crazy fuckin boring for a preteen but read it again recently n it's a good read. And not only after reading the fountainhead did I realise that the drummer, the guy that wrote the lyrics, had loads of objectivist Randian ideas, especially in their earlier work when he joined.

[@garyswank1043]

Public (government) school is a wasteland of socialist indoctrination. It was that way when you were a kid and it's even worse today. Intellectual stimulation does not happen there.

[@braxtongrundy4625]

Im really enjoy listening to these types of convos at work

[@arda8393]

The fact lex's podcasts are so regularly available, the fact theyre so long and full of information and thought along with the brilliant host and guests makes it one of the best learning tools on the internet. What i need is a Lex and Bret Weinstein 5 hour special. Or Brian Green hes a brilliant and inspired speaker of science.

[@ryanschmidt2181]

Brian Green on Rogan was INCREDIBLE! I love those discussions about the universe and he's one of the best no doubt. I disagree with Brian Cox politically but man did he spit flames similar to Green on Rogan. Would be awesome for Lex to have them!

[@stef5896]

"Holy spaceballs bat man!" That was one of the most interesting conversations I've heard for a while. Thanks Lex for introducing me to Mr. Brooke.

[@sybo59]

If you find Brook interesting, I HIGHLY recommend The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged (as a start).

[@sybo59]

I should add that the versions of both on Audible are outstanding.

[@DaKook14]

One of the best conversations I've ever heard thank you for putting this together Lex.

[@AllyGray]

This was probably my favorite Lex video, so far.

[@soapbxprod]

Best ever Lex show- the nexus of Mises and Rand, explained by two of the best people. Please, Yaron and Michael, could we hope for an alliance between the ARI and the Mises Institute? Both are simply the place to go for real answers to real questions IMHO. Thanks- and thanks to all commenters too.

[@damonhage7451]

Would be tough. ARI as a whole is much more philosophically oriented than Yaron and therefore the collaborations would have be more philosophical in nature and the divides would start to become quite an issue. I don't know if it would be productive.

[@sybo59]

No. Objectivists generally like a lot about Mises’ economics, but hate his attempts at epistemology, and absolutely detest today’s Mises Institute, which has been corrupted by the anarchism of Murray Rothbard. Rothbard was a dishonest hack who “borrowed” much from Rand and then slandered her with lies (which he apparently admitted to Steve Valliant at one point). He was also an anti-American who even went on the defend the brutal Soviet regime, siding with it over the U.S.

[@d4n4nable]

@@sybo59 What absolute horseshit.

[@bDeeLiN7]

You should have Dave Smith on! He was just on Rogan's podcast and I think you two would have a really interesting conversation.

[@jackjurphy5020]

Dave Smith is the man, should absolutely run for President

[@cjtrickstar6060]

He's always on Malice's show

[@bDeeLiN7]

@@jackjurphy5020 💯💯💯

[@bDeeLiN7]

@@cjtrickstar6060 Yeah those Dave Smith/Malice crossover episodes this past year have been awesome!

[@goldeneggify]

Agreed

[@DrProgNerd]

I love podcasts. I've watched/listened to hundreds through the years. This is - by far - the best podcast I've ever seen. 4:25 long and I hated to see it end. Outstanding job. Thank you.

[@booleansymmetrix7429]

Thank you Lex. I'm truly, deeply and excitedly grateful for this podcast episode. Loved it!

[@davidchavez1553]

Hey Lex. My wife purchased a box of cereal that cost 50 dollars. I was irate until she said that it was to support your podcast. I've purchased books writen by your guest and recommendations that are suggested. I've also listened to most of your podcasts. Anyways I support my wife supporting a podcast I love. But screw you Lex what am I going to do with the cereal? ... haha nothing but love my Russian brother.

[@davidchavez1553]

@@albertoceccato7164 Well thank you. I didn't understand that all. Award to Mr. Freacking obvious goes to Alberto.

[@lexfridman]

Lol, I feel the love, David. Buying stuff from the sponsors is actually the best way to support this podcast. So I'm deeply thankful for that. My recommendation is to eat that delicious, keto-friendly Magic Spoon cereal and know that I'm there with you in spirit. One day we shall feast together 👊

[@davidchavez1553]

@@lexfridman thank you for the reply. Made my day. Keep up the fantastic content and wish you love in your future projects. Very brave of you to step outside the box in conversation. Especially with your credentials. We salute you brother.

[@rangv733]

Yo Lex , having Michael and Yaron with their humor is making you make jokes and witty remarks. This is interesting to watch as well. Not only serious talks.

[@RichardHughesSpokeCulture]

One of the best conversations I have had the pleasure of listening to. Thank you Lex for facilitating and putting this together.

[@tomasarce6435]

Really enjoy when there are more then 2 people in the conversation

[@JAw1729]

This is the best anarchism discussion Malice ever had against someone. Great guy to compete with him

[@MrMuki61]

Marvel fans: "Avengers is the most ambitious crossover event in history" Lex: "Hold my WD40"

[@limbeckk8632]

Hell yeah

[@matejkosir3791]

fun and intellectually inspiring - never thought this could be possible

[@PrimeMatt]

Superb! Great conversation, hosted in a great way.

[@javedoy2404]

Yaron: "Are you married?" Lex: "No but we all want to have sex with our mother..." 😂dead

[@kyleoverman9224]

@@mikethiem3628 or he's just levels of humor above us, I literally fell out of my chair laughing at that random insertion of oedipus complex. 3:35:08

[@davidk9382]

I went into the comments looking for memes of this, but I forget memes grow on reddit not YT.

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

@@davidk9382 I thought it was the Chan, given reddit's censoriousness.

[@alicedoors4826]

@@TheJeremyKentBGross What's the new reddit?

[@Patrick33194]

Freud refference?

[@brookelanziner]

Excellent episode with excellent guests. More of this please! :D

[@sortof3337]

this is my third time listening to this, absolutely love it.

[@vl8962]

Michael Malice is a National Treasure.... This world needs more Malice👽👽👽 Your Welcome!🤙

[@MiriamIllions]

Wow, this is like a surprise present from life.

[@Tom-ff4tm]

Great podcast guys! thoroughly enjoyed the chat.

[@TheWorldofMomus]

I love this conversation. It made me laugh, and think deeply at the same time. And it opens up so many different threads to explore.