Browsing the Web on Windows XP in 2021! (YouTube, Twitter, etc.)

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[@vwestlife]

A really weird bug that just cropped up today is that you can no longer type a space character in KZbin in any legacy-Firefox-based browser (Mypal, Pale Moon, K-Meleon, Firefox ESR, etc.) -- it is now reserving the space bar exclusively for pausing/unpausing the video. I'm using Mypal, and to enter this comment I had to type it in Notepad and then paste it in to KZbin. The space bar still works normally in any Chromium-based browser.

[@TechNetworkUK]

Nice I’m using Windows XP as well it’s a shame it doesn’t work with modern Internet connections. What I have to do is connect the laptop via a Wi-Fi hotspot from my phone.

[@MichaelMJD]

I am experiencing that same thing on the latest version of Firefox on Windows 10! Hopefully it gets fixed soon. EDIT: seems to be fixed now

[@TheRailroad99]

@@TechNetworkUK make sure to enable WiFi B/G in your router and it should connect. Note that some modern routers don't support wireless b anymore. However most XP laptops from 2005 or newer already have wireless g.

[@Raven-2000]

using firefox on linux and i can't type spaces either

[@RhizometricReality]

@@MichaelMJD this bug is part of a bigger problem

[@connormatthews9674]

XP was in wide use through the early 2010's when KZbin added HD support, so it really should be no surprise we can stream video on XP. The browser itself is pretty impressive though, considering that no mainstream projects support it anymore. 😁

[@EpicB]

The high school I went to was still using XP up until around 2015.

[@JeffSmith03]

The past month I had to reinstall XP for a client who still runs they business on software copy right 1999. Funny that is is called Vista, because Microsoft has not even named they future OS Vista yet. Once I figured out WSUS and Activating a retail key, it is working better than I expected.

[@arjan1995]

While the XP OS can technically stream full HD video on KZbin, as shown in this demonstration, almost no XP-era computers can actually do it as they lack capable graphics cards / processors and don’t have 4gb ram but maybe 1-2gb.

[@connormatthews9674]

@@arjan1995 plenty of devices with XP installed were shipping way into the late 2000’s, and many devices had XP driver support even if they shipped with later versions of Windows. A lot of people made the choice specifically to remain on XP after Vista due to the negative press around it so really, a lot of systems with XP were more than capable hardware-wise to play HD video.

[@MATAM29]

I used Windows XP in 2010.

[@startedtech]

funny how browsing the web on XP is a novelty these days, grew up browsing the internet on XP!

[@catfree]

I remember playing Madness Combat mods on a Compaq laptop with XP enit

[@breddie_is_rookie]

Yeah; I still remember those days when I used to play some classic flash games and Animal Jam on Google Chrome in Windows XP

[@nadiafriesen971]

I used it up until a few years ago

[@sburton015]

I remember in my very first gaming PC that I built and also the first PC that I used Internet on in early 2001, I remember that I original had Windows ME on it, then later upgraded it to XP in 2002.

[@dirtydirtsgt4751]

Same!

[@TheCandoRailfan]

In high school, pretty much until I graduated, it still had about half the computers running Windows XP in the main computer lab, the other half running Windows 7. Right before I graduated in 2017, they started finally putting in Windows 10 machines.

[@elijahwatson8119]

I graduated in 2011. There were still Pentium 3 computers in use in some of our classrooms, running Windows 2000. There were exactly zero computers running anything newer than XP in the school district. While it's a small, fairly rural school district, that is still hundreds of computers. From what I hear, they finally migrated entirely to Windows 7 in late 2018... You know, a little over a year before Windows 7 hit end-of-life. Ah, gotta love government work.

[@belstar1128]

Yea they had like 2 windows 7 pcs when i got out of high school in 2013 everything else was windows xp they only got rid of windows 2000 in 2011 windows 98 in 2010 windows 95 in 2008 and dos in 2006 and they had no computers at all when i was in kindergarten in the late 90s and the year 2000.

[@646464mario]

Our school was all on Windows 7 starting in 2011. When I graduated in 2017, 8.1/10 is what the teachers were using. As for the backend, the school was running on Server 2008 & Server 2012 R2.

[@rydernigga5720]

Same thing, only I graduated last year and some teacher PCs were the only ones to get Windows 10. They still use Windows XP and 7

[@stvpls]

sad they switched to w10, they should prepare to call tech support everyday

[@WindowsXP-pk6rd]

Windows XP is timeless.

[@WR3ND]

2000 was pretty good too. Shame about those people on Me though... **pours one out**

[@uploadJ]

Getting to be that way ...

[@ryzenman6460]

Im still using xp 64

[@cloudbasenirvana]

XP and Windows 7 - the 2 best OS ever Window 10 is a bag of sh*te . . .so much greif.

[@specticide7942]

@@cloudbasenirvana imo windows 10 is more optimized for different scale devices, thus making it better

[@robertfoster6070]

I tried this on my stand-alone XP computer and it works. Even the videos operate smoothly. I think the jerkiness you experienced was due to the fact XP was operating in Virtual Box on Windows 10.

[@wc2006]

*VMware Player

[@peterbaugh4689]

I need some VM ware to run win 10 on my xp pro pc... No joke... It already runs my favorite DOS games virtually in dosbox, free. I have 8 gb ram and an i5 to play with on a toughbook, 1tb 7200 rpm sata hdd. Just as fast as most new win 10 pc's. Go figure. No viruses either. Yes I am an IT admin, so maybe dont try this at home...

[@CoolDudeClem]

I still remember the days when I watched KZbin on Windows XP, with the latest (at the time) Firefox. Windows Vista and 7 were out but I just refused to upgrade, I wanted to stick with XP as long as I could.

[@LeoInterVir]

Windows XP is supported by hardware as recent as the 3rd generation Intel Core processors and nVidia GTX 9xx series. I'm going to put together a system with a i7-3700k and GTX 970.

[@clochard4074]

@@LeoInterVir 970 needs modified drivers. 960 is supported out of the box. Probably you already knew it but I wanted to be sure.

[@MINI_91]

I love that classic Windows operating systems get some love by the community. Great stuff.

[@himbourbanist]

They're fun hobby systems at best nowadays, but it's still really cool that they get support - just goes to show how popular XP really was, it was everywhere. There are undoubtedly some people in the world still running XP as their daily system

[@ColeCapone]

I just wanna tell you, PLEASE keep making your content. I love your videos.

[@MichaelMJD]

Glad to hear that! Thanks so much!

[@MidnightTheKitten]

@@MichaelMJD Me too!

[@oasisbeyond]

It was scary back then, I can't imagine today. I would reformat my pc every few weeks lol.

[@jaydenridley4]

I still do lol

[@x5nash870]

hdd doesn't wear as easy as ssd's

[@cowgoesmoo3850]

@@cryptified_edits i still got the orignal hdd from my OG Xbox. Lol still all works to.

[@PanicattheDiscourse]

As you would. Your parents would rock 3 new browserbar extensions every time you visited.

[@namesurname4666]

@@cryptified_edits i have a 4gb hard drive from 1998 it still works and goes around 500kb/s

[@chriswathen9612]

People are just a little bit obsessive with this 'OMG you have Windows XP on the internet in 2021? We're all going to die!' approach. Yes of course I would never suggest it for any business use, but I still run an XP laptop with both the last supported version of Chrome from 5 years ago and Firefox ESR. It's fine. And as for the security risks, virus/malware coders are going after weaknesses in platforms which are in common use. It's why in 2017 XP was targeted by Wannacry when it was still worth it but the architecturally similar Windows 2000 proved to be essentially immune to it because it had not been targeted and the code was found not to run on it. XP usage on internet-connected devices has crashed in recent years and is now less than 1%. Newer versions of Windows still trace their lineage back to Vista, not XP. There might well be specific targeted attacks to get into infrastructure known to have XP in use to exploit, but no general malware is being made with XP in mind in 2021, that focus will now have shifted to Windows 7. Of course that doesn't mean it's secure (hence the opening comment about business use), just that in practice the risk is so small that it doesn't matter any more.

[@TheCandoRailfan]

I agree, I have a Dell XP laptop with Chrome on it, which I take online once in a while, and haven't had any problems. After all, I'm not going on to any dodgy websites, just onto trusted sites like KZbin.

[@theannoyedmrfloyd3998]

*WannaCryptor

[@Koseiku]

true but majority of people think a virus will let plutonium leak out of your machine lmao.

[@cindyhill1197]

It just occurred to me that considering how many current programs won't run or crash on XP, I wonder how many current-day viruses and trojans won't run on XP either.

[@peterbaugh4689]

You are correct... But lets just keep this truth a bit quiet ok 😋.

[@fuk8743]

In Vietnam, there is also a browser supports XP and based on Firefox like that but it has support for all extensions called Cốc Cốc. Hope there will be an another episode of this as soon as possible

[@Xamlonvlog70]

:D

[@ktf8]

Hú đồng chí =)))

[@rcmero]

Something that you've neglected to mention, K-Meleon's user interface is very customisable, even more so than Firefox. As I was told, and as you've mentioned, since K-Meleon renders the browser's chrome using the system's native APIs it can change parts of the chrome that Firefox couldn't ever change, even back when it was still using legacy extensions.

[@kaitlyn__L]

That’s pretty cool, especially since it looks so much like Firefox 2.

[@Unused-b4j]

Ah yes, *unsupported browser* . My favourite browser.

[@uploadJ]

BUT, it *IS* supported ... and quite actively! GO check out Github ...

[@gpubenchmarks7905]

@@uploadJ what the name of browser is called unsupported browser?

[@mrneptune64]

true

[@mrneptune64]

@Prophet Muhammad beep bo bop

[@markomihajlovic7480]

Bring back the golden age of internet.

[@oliverb.8995]

this is the golden age, we literally have advanced so much

[@CrabHead501]

@@oliverb.8995nostalgia

[@belstar1128]

No that is illegal now.

[@alumlovescake]

@@oliverb.8995 no it really isn't

[@oliverb.8995]

@@alumlovescake it actually is. you guys are forgetting other things from the old times. bad game visuals, less advanced security, etc.

[@ИльяГелюх-т6з]

Windows xp будет жить вечно! (в сердцах) Windows xp will live forever! (in hearts)

[@KasparOnTube]

not only in harts, in my office as well :D:D

[@ИльяГелюх-т6з]

@@KasparOnTube And at my school + 478 socket :D

[@a21npilot91]

@@ИльяГелюх-т6з, когда я оканчивается школу в 2017-ом, уже везде стояла Windows 7 и 775 соккет.

[@TechNetworkUK]

The video I just needed. I have just installed windows XP on my ThinkPad T60

[@OK-md4ty]

Lol me too

[@eidrag]

I bought R50e last month but only starting it last week after upgrades parts come, it comes with xp but cannot browse internet... turns out it didn't even upgrade to service packs lol

[@Diogo-fk3xn]

Wish I could like twice or 3 times.. I wanted such a video for so long (I could have searched, but having this on my inbox was a blessing). Thanks so much!! Keep it up :D

[@BoomboxStudiosAndDexter]

Who Doesn't Love Windows XP? I actually used to use it as my main machine for 3 years straight from 2017. I used it on a Thinkpad X220. Keep up the good work on the videos! Also I got a clapper :).

[@algorithms-memo104]

Thanks so much for reviewing these two browsers in an XP environment! When you fired them up at the same time, I thought you were going to go split-screen, which in the XP days you did by selecting multiple tabs in the task bar (click one, hold down Control, click the other) then right-clicking and arranging tiled windows from the context menu.

[@alexstudieshistory5823]

I have 2 partitions on my computer. One with Windows XP, and another with Windows 8.1 (since I hate 10). I use the XP partition mostly for studying since I don’t get as many distractions, nor I use personal accounts there. I also use it to play old games from that era like Counter Strike 1.6. My computer has pretty old specs, which makes using XP a more pleasant (real) experience. CPU: Core2Quad 2.6 GHz; RAM: 4GB DDR2; GPU: Ati Radeon HD 7770.

[@parkiranhonda7138]

There are still a lot of cheap internet cafe in Indonesia literally still use Windows XP on all their computers

[@JPX64Channel]

wow, those places are actually worse than the already 3rd world south america, here there are not internet cafes anymore since everyone has phones now

[@yorusuyasoul69420]

In Philippines most internet cafes had moved to win7 as base..lots of internet cafe kids like to play cf,lol and Dota xD

[@ralances]

Bener

[@AutumnWind92]

I wish there were still Internet cafes here. I loved to go to them in the 00s. Sadly all are gone now here :(

[@inquisidortorquemada]

Actually in some South American countries like Colombia there are some Internet café business but they're not as common as it used to be in the mid to late 2000s and early 2010s.

[@mateuszbojarski4420]

Actually, I'd like to point out that using XP with lightweight browser, like MyPal, is actually reasoneable on really low-end, old devices. Recently I've been plaing with all-in-one PC with old Intel Atom and 512 MB of RAM. While most modern linux distros just woudn't work properly with modern browser, MyPal with XP actually works better than on my current PC (which isn't the best, but still 4GB of RAM and Pentium G840 has got some "power")

[@TheCommanderCrapper]

looking at this makes me really miss XP, I'm sad microsoft ended support for it. It was really simple & made new windows users or even new computer users interested & wanting to learn, the fun colors, the customization, the design of everything is what people remember a lot. Everything is honestly better than windows 10 or anything from 8 & up, but microsoft wants to "focus on the future" or whatever they said Regardless, thank you for making videos like this with older versions of windows or computers in general because not only are they interesting, they're a really nice look back as well as fun to watch. Now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to cry while listening to 95's easter egg song "clouds.midi" while I look at the old wallpapers from previous Windows versions

[@doggomoredoggo6547]

They killed windows 7 too

[@yeaiknow3557]

Microsoft is stupid they keep throwing away Windows 95 then 98 then ME then 2000 then XP then Vista, 7! Next 10 and 11 soon. So stupid Microsoft is compelety damning stupid. From 95 to 7 are best. XP the champ king!

[@railedb0x503]

@@doggomoredoggo6547 at least we can get legacy updates and they are mostly useable

[@hontagajei9274]

Windows XP, the Windows I had grown up with until I started using Windows 7. My first Windows was actually Windows 95 (my great grandmother had it on her old computer and it worked remarkably well.)

[@lucasn0tch]

I have a PC that can triple boot between Windows XP 32 bit Japanese, Windows 10 64 bit Japanese, and Windows 10 32 bit Traditional Chinese (Taiwan). And it's made of 2013 computer parts too.

[@Vermilicious]

I was disappointed when Mozilla cut support for XP. I have an older laptop running XP which is still quite usable for light tasks, but the lack of a modern browser was a great limitation. So, it's nice to see there are some decent alternatives still.

[@amortalbeing]

Xp had lots of security issues. That was to discourage people from using it, otherwise people would be using it in 2022 as well!

[@ikbintom]

Both browsers also work on windows 2000! I especially like k-meleon in combination with windows 2000, since it can run reasonably well on 256 megs of ram! (even a super light nlited version of XP won't do that very well)

[@zekiz774]

"It really looks like a modern version of Firefox" Looks like a 7 year old version of Firefox.

[@talvisota327]

well thats still modern when it comes to windows xp

[@4.0.4]

@@talvisota327 it looks like the version of Firefox I used when I last used XP (while it was supported/updated)

[@mariotheundying]

@@talvisota327 last time I used an xp google chrome looked a lot more modern than that (it was the default browser, Firefox was REALLY really laggy but chrome worked normally)

[@mariotheundying]

@@talvisota327 so yeah it's old when it comes to Windows xp, it looks like internet explorer

[@Barni2212]

This was really helpful. My parents refuse to buy a new PC and they are using XP. It is an extremely outdated PC but you know how old people and parents work. "If it isn't broke, we don't need a new one".

[@tobykassulke2385]

That privacy bar is so cool. I would love something like that on modern browsers.

[@alexander_strachan]

Mypal is dead now... :( Hope the other browsers stay supported though. It would also be cool if Pale Moon could make Mypal open source, like the Classic Shell developer(s) did.

[@tennickjestzajety69]

try to use them on native pc. I can tell you, MyPal with modern XP GPU (I use 550Ti) can be really good, it supports HW acceleration for playback, so I can pick 1080p easily and no-laggy

[@LeoInterVir]

Windows XP is supported by hardware as recent as the 3rd generation Intel Core processors and nVidia GTX 9xx series. I'm going to put together a system with a i7-3700k and GTX 970.

[@biggles5633]

Thank heavens for your great clip on browsing in XP. I have been trying all day to find a way to get a new (old) PC running XP to connect to websites. It appears to be impossible with every search on the internet on my other PC indicating that it is a SSL, FTP, certificate or other security issue. I've just downloaded Mypal and it runs like a dream. Thank you so much. I have gone back to XP to run some old CAD software which I can not justify subscribing to in retirement, especially for hobby purposes. The cost is around $8000 per annum. The XP machine runs the programme like lightning unlike via a virtual machine in Win 7 which constantly experiences hitches and is slow. I can spin the most complex 3D drawing around in a flash on the 3.1 GHz HP Elite 8100 machine even with the 4GB ram limitation. A really great instructional video, thank you again

[@insert_username_here]

0:43 thank you, Michael, for using the Firefox quantum logo instead of the lame excuse of a logo Firefox is currently using.

[@ClifffSVK]

8:35 that "close last tab with middle-click" icon lol

[@daveh4914]

Interesting I might try that sometime with one of my spare thin clients. Honestly the last time I took an xp machine online was probably 4-5 years ago. My win xp retro gaming maching shares a montor, mouse, keyboard, and an external hard drive with my modern machine through a hub. if I need to download anything for it, I just log on the other machine and save it to the external drive. I never seriously considered taking it online . Now I did consider a dual boot situation with the older machine so it could be a standalone device, but I found that running two machines sharing accessories works just as well for me. Better actually because I am not tied to 9 year old hardware for my internet activities.

[@adamjasiok531]

Great video ! I must say that on old PC with - Pentium 4 - 2.4 Ghz, 2 GB DDR RAM/PC3200 and GeForce 6600GT/128MB, Mypal runs really much fuster with a much less memory usage than K-meleon

[@peterbaugh4689]

Good hardware still matters 😉. Latest and greatest is .... Not usually...

[@xys007]

Do you have GeForce 6600GT AGP or PCI-E ? Do you have hardware acceleration for video decoding ?

[@adamjasiok531]

@@xys007 I have it on AGP with hardware acceleration

[@kyanoang3l0_old]

One of the things I really miss from old Firefox is the add-on that let you highlight search terms in your scrollbar...which will finally be an official feature in Firefox's 87.0 update that will come out this March 23, apparently. o.O I literally just looked this up after watching this vid. Lol. Holy cow, can't wait.

[@kaitlyn__L]

Oh I had totally forgotten about that!

[@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim]

early congrats on 200k big boi, keep up the entertaining content !

[@FrontierGD]

babe wake up, new mjd video

[@aaronbrown4275]

My mind is blown that apparently K-Meleon still has a version that's updated that works on 9x! They just updated 1.5.4 last January! I mean, I'm sure it won't run Twitter and KZbin, but that's still impressive.

[@BionicTenshi96]

I've got to give it a try, many sites in 9x are not working anymore, like the Wikipedia, due to new security protocols for wich Win9x have no updated certificates

[@aaronbrown4275]

@@HemangxVyas Wow! That's an amazing testament to the K-Meleon devs that they continue to support and update that old a version!

[@retroindian1864]

I use Windows XP 64 bit as I have 24GB DDR3 RAM and AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz in one system and 12GB DDR3 and i5-2400 3.1GHz in the other system. I have commenting from the 2nd system now. Both support Windows XP fully and this is the reason why I will not upgrade these two machines. All my other desktop machines are older than these two. I also have a 2011 HP laptop with i5-2450M and 12GB DDR3 RAM which has all drivers for Windows XP.

[@Levy_Wilson]

5:50 That full screen lag is just something that happens on Pale Moon even on a modern PC with Windows 10.

[@L30NBL4NK]

Personaly I used Mozilla Seamonkey since now. The last version for Windows XP (2.45.9) was released in 2019, but it's starting to get old. Even if I didn't have any flaw, including going on KZbin. I just use uBlock Origin to block the useless resources, and the hosts file. I use COMODO Firewall and Microsoft EMET to avoid memory leaks / intrusions. Is that enough? But yeah, it's a bit risky because it still contains security flaws. Thanks for recommending us MyPal. Gonna try it soon.

[@xDJxGNOMx]

I remember using Yandex Browser (Chromium Based) for Windows XP. You could also get recent extensions running on it if you downloaded, extracted and inserted them manually. It worked great but it was in 2019.

[@okamiboi]

Hey, I was watching the +100 floppy disks and this popped up on my notifications!

[@hulksmash8159]

Ok.

[@sczcz1625]

It's a pity that I didn't know about this browser before, because when my Laptop broke up, I had to use a Windows XP computer on which google chrome and firefox somehow worked for me. :D

[@agustinpaz2423]

Thanks to this video I will go back to Windows XP again 😍😍😍

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

I love that media center edition UI. Always looked so sleek

[@AnesuC]

Graphics performance in a VM will be worse than directly mostly because you aren't talking to the GPU directly (unlike CPU virtualisation). So the video playback lag is expected and general UI responsiveness

[@xys007]

It actually works far better in VM then on real machines ... I have tried a few ...

[@JamesnLollify]

MichaelMJD: "Browsing the web on Windows XP in 2021!" Me: Wait, am I the only one who does this on a daily basis?!

[@daemonspudguy]

Yes. As much as I love it, XP is long dead. Time to move on.

[@TheCandoRailfan]

@@daemonspudguy just because he uses XP everyday, doesn't mean it's his main computer.

[@BionicTenshi96]

You're not alone bro... as long as XP works for me i'll stick to it; i've used anything from Vista to 10 on a daily basis and nothing is as reliable as XP

[@daemonspudguy]

@@BionicTenshi96 your asking for data theft.

[@stvpls]

@@daemonspudguy time to stop with that BS of its "unsafe"

[@happyatheists9361]

I love Xp,my heart belong to Xp,my childhood belong to Xp .ohhhh those sound..😍

[@doramilitiakatiemelody1875]

Mine belongs to Windows 98 and Windows XP

[@nffan696]

It's the bird or dark midus?

[@growingup15]

XP/Vista for me.

[@abunk8691]

Used MyPal after your vid but PaleMoon devs stirring up drama about licensing (that they themselves aren't even following parts of at time) pretty much forced the dev of MyPal to close down the project. Hope you add a note about that as MyPal won't be getting any more updates and the repo for it has been nuked.

[@nogoat]

Update: MyPal has moved its codebase to be based on Firefox Quantum and while the version does have bugs from time to time, it works pretty well for the most part.

[@JmKirbyiou]

I use Windows XP on my main pc every day and it works fine :D I watch this video on XP right now!

[@happyatheists9361]

u r soo lucky

[@JmKirbyiou]

@@happyatheists9361 :D

[@JmKirbyiou]

@Lazuko • It is! Windows XP has such a good ui and it's so nice to use

[@JmKirbyiou]

@Lazuko •I understand. You can't downgrade your pc?

[@JmKirbyiou]

@Lazuko • Ikr it's a bit risky. I made some backups from my sh**ty win 10 on usb and I make a usb bootable XP usb with easy2boot.

[@trafficracer124]

I feel so ahead, i got mypal before i saw any video talking about it

[@uploadJ]

Same here! It was one of the few browsers that worked under Xp a couple years back!

[@trafficracer124]

@@uploadJ oh that's amazing! I found out about it last year i think, since chrome and Firefox weren't being that reliable.

[@sgirix65]

Wow, I thought K-Meleon is outdated browser because It doesn't load KZbin, but I realized K-Meleon on my school PC isn't updated since 2013...

[@johnmytroen6473]

This brought my old XP computer back to life. Thanks

[@cidsx]

3:43 that design was last used by firefox in version 28 in the beginning of 2014. It's really not modern at all.

[@j.h-j5j]

Thanks for the info 😁. My uncle game me a old laptop to see if I could fix it. It originally came with windows xp, but for some reason, it got corrupted. I explained to him that xp is not safe to use anymore, but he doesn't care, so I am looking into the best way to configure windows to be used as securely as possible.

[@JmKirbyiou]

Video idea : Windows 2000, a retrospective

[@Gadgetman1989]

This was very helpful because I'm building a very old netbook for my daughter as her first computer, I just hope there's some parent locks or something I can install on it so she can still watch KZbin kids and such and still play some retro games that I grew up with

[@OliveIsTyping]

Great video Michael keep it up

[@tfruba]

Hi Michael! I've done a little experiment during my holidays that I'd like to share with you. I have on old IBM T43 laptop (with only 2GB of RAM) running Windows XP that I use for playing old games. I needed to download bots add on for CS 1.6 and was struggling with the poor internet browsing on a Firefox 52.9 ESR due to lack of current root certificates. What I did was I've taken my usb drive and exported whole certificate store from my Windows 10 computer and imported to my XP machine. It worked as a charm and I can browse the internet without any certificate related errors :)

[@MuhammadAbdullah-sl9rb]

I'm still using Window XP😑😑

[@Radim_Burda]

What

[@FelixSullivan]

based

[@Ultranova537MC]

Bros a chad using the chad of windows

[@Stev417]

Then how do you have Apple emojis?

[@Koopai386]

I'm using 2000 💀

[@BionicTenshi96]

I'm on XP and Mypal does a great job browsing the web, some sites throw that "unsupported browser" bs, but still work. I navigate through FB and YT using their mobile versions and the experience is just fine, without all that garbage developers put on websites nowadays thinking it makes the sites look/work better. To be fair even the latest FF for XP struggles to open KZbin with that horrible new layout.

[@chrisdigitalartist]

Weird I am trying to install MyPal on my Virtual XP now and I just keep getting a critical sound when I click on the file...nothing happening

[@imaginaoYouTubesoquecomarrobas]

Maybe try running it as an admin, idk...

[@dexterpedroche]

@@imaginaoKZbinsoquecomarrobas Everything's run as admin in XP.

[@talvisota327]

no service pack 3 installed?

[@chrisdigitalartist]

@@talvisota327 Oooh that is probably it lol Thanks!

[@pafmelb1927]

Thank you for the run throughs on K-Melion and MyPal. I didn't see any comment on whether Firefox passwords or Bookmarks are able to be imported from Firefox, or whether MyPal or K-thing have an inbuilt password manager. Regards PAF

[@ghost.8836]

The best thing about Mypal is that it has a racoon.

[@markenetube]

Just got given an old Vostro 1500 xp professional . Tried mypal and can watch youtube at 720 p. Sound quality is a lot better than my 2021 Dell. Can install windows 7 , but going to keep it for old games. Amazing it is a usable laptop and 14 years old!

[@onlinemario.]

me who switched to win 7 like 2 months ago before win 7 i was rocking win xp

[@persona83]

I did this very upgrade like a year ago or so. Until then XP all the way. And yes I have 2 or 3 backups of my important data, so no worries.

[@melonademan5639]

I just use the latest version of Firefox available for Windows XP. It loads sites just fine. It isn’t fast, but it’s still okay. I use Edge on my main computer because I honestly don’t have any memory hog issues with it. The same goes for Opera, but that’s probably because they don’t want the memory hog burden that Google Chrome brings along. 😅

[@achtsekundenfurz7876]

00:16 "If you continue to use Windows XP now that support has ended, your computer will still work but it might become more vulnerable to security risks and viruses." Right, but at the same time, it will become _less_ vulnerable to faulty patches, so there's that.

[@PrinsessePeach]

My Dell Mini 9 with a newly downgrade to Windows XP is happier than ever with using MyPal. Adblock is necessary for watching KZbin on that machine, but it works. The Adblock I installed is a version for pale moon.

[@achtsekundenfurz7876]

"Well, looks like it's time to upgrade" -- me, a Win98 user

[@mjdxp5688]

Web browsing is very much possible on XP, but it can be difficult. Pale Moon itself isn't the fastest web browser, and a Windows XP system will most likely have 4GB ram or less. This leads to some pretty slow browsing on MyPal/New Moon unfortunately. These browsers technically do mean you could still use Windows XP as a main operating system, nearly 20 years after its release, as long as you only really use the internet.

[@blitzcinema1495]

About web browsing on XP... I tried it and half of webpages didnt work

[@connie_d]

That 20% of the Mypal GUI that's just wasted space makes me anxious. But the knowledge that I'll never have to run XP again makes it better.

[@Leon-ts1nl]

It is possible to make a browser based on a new Firefox version that even is XP compatible interesting

[@_lun4r_]

maybe, if it doesn't rely on functions in windows code that aren't found in xp

[@BeautifulAngelBlossom]

@@_lun4r_ They use Windows coading and Most are now 64bit only and Firefox wont even let them ise the coad for New Firefox for XP . these new Browser need newer hardware to run right too

[@_lun4r_]

@@BeautifulAngelBlossom coding* use* code*

[@MiglinStudios]

Thankyou so much for posting this !you are a lifesaver, i still love using XP and it saved me money and time having to upgrade. Thanks again !

[@corrupteddrive]

I literally just installed xp on my old pc yesterday and got wifi working

[@conath]

Hi Michael, this was a nice demo and TIL modern browsers exist for Windows XP. However the way you tested the performance is not reasonable, because the VM is running on your modern CPU. As you pointed out in the video at one point, to get an accurate picture of the performance you’d need to run it on actual old hardware. I’d love it if you could do that in a future video. (“Browsing KZbin natively on the Windows98 pc”?)

[@hoteny]

Video uploaded 8 minutes ago, has 2 views, has 38 comments. Good job KZbin!

[@JmKirbyiou]

Yea lol

[@Dimondminer11]

Hey I was looking for the best browser yesterday. Thanks for this video!

[@flaguser4196]

can't tell what mypal's oversimplified icon design is supposed to be.

[@CyberPodMark2]

There is only one way is to use VMware 10.0.4 to install newer windows like 8.1. It also bypass out of support thing and lets you run newer problems. Making it unity mode will giving it chance like you’re actually running as normal operating system.

[@sam_64]

10yrs later: browsing the web on Windows 7

[@polorchen1592]

Damm

[@nerfspartanEBF25]

I actually had to do this at some point in 2017 because my then-current laptop caught an acute case of ded, so I bought my next laptop with that laptop and did Facebook and stuff with it. It wasn't great, but it was servicable.

[@knarly]

0:41 sounds like microsoft egg

[@ananttiwari1337]

egde

[@sweetedenxoxo]

I really enjoy your video’s!! It feels like it gives me knowledge about Computers.

[@panqueque445]

Every time I see the Windows XP window on a web browser I can FEEL the viruses.

[@FennecTECH]

Finally. A video on K-Mellon

[@dihydrogenmonoxidecontainm6064]

Why do I even want to see this? I put up with this every day!

[@clochard4074]

It's a little like seeing yourself in tv

[@SebaZero]

This is great! I was looking for a way to give use to an old Asus EEE PC which has a unique utilitity: lightweight, small and beautiful. But it comes with Windows XP as original image. So I have two options: 1) Install Seven and corresponding drivers, and 2) Install modern browsers like these. As for the type of machine it won't be used for heavy tasks, I think that being able to connect via Wi-Fi and browse the web is all I need to keep my mini notebook up to date.

[@SebaZero]

I finally have it working with modern browsers. Sadly, for Google Sheets, is too slow. But that is because of the hardware. Today's web apps are generally heavy.

[@zerghydralisk1837]

Fun thing im from poland... man in school still is xp and end in 2020

[@MLGKid420]

Your school still uses XP? Or it stopped using it in 2020

[@zerghydralisk1837]

@@MLGKid420 im end scholl in 2020, but probobly still xp there

[@CWM030]

lol @ 18:12 Mark--- that 9 Volt battery expired when I was 13 hahahaha

[@CaseyQuotes]

imagine using Twitter on Windows XP. Lol 😂

[@JmKirbyiou]

I do 😂

[@TheXlen]

I used to do that, not that long ago tbh

[@fromthegamethrone]

I have imagined it, awaiting further instruction

[@pessoaanonima6345]

Watching it on XP. I'm using MiniBrowser, it is a port of Chrome 87 for it. I don't know if it's secure, it's an obscure chinese browser which someone modified, so I hope they don't steal my account. There's also 360 Explorer, which is also chinese and has also been modified for it. Apart from that, the original MyPal (shown in the video) has been discontinued, the creator now develops MyPal68, which is based on Firefox 68 (as it is already the Quantum version, it's a lot more compatible and supports the new extensions, but for now it still has a lot of bugs.

[@ibobeko4309]

I installed Windows Xp today on my old pc and tried Linux Mint on the same system, Linux Mint run really great, everything worked, browsing surfing like on my new pc no problems. But with Windows Xp you have constant problems, just surfing become a big problem because 90% of the websites i visit, say you have no certificate, you get an error code. If you only surf and visit youtube, install Linux.

[@pessoaanonima6345]

@@ibobeko4309 You can update the certificates. Also, new MyPal and MiniBrowser don't have any problems with certificates (even without updating the certificates, I only got errors on old chromium based browsers such as Opera and Chrome). Both of those are forks of relatively recent versions of chromium and firefox, so almost everything works. That said, the same computer I was using is quad-booting Windows XP, 7, 8.1 and Linux Mint. I understand the new OSes are better for browsing the internet. Browsing on XP can have its uses though. I have a really old laptop (1GB of ram, a single-core Turion 64 at 1.8ghz, and an IDE HDD), and XP is way faster than any recent linux distro I ever tried. I also dual boot it with Linux, but XP is definitely a better experience.

[@oimateusaqui]

I tested Windows XP for the first time on my eepc, and I liked, but I returned to windows 7

[@BilisNegra]

If you mean Windows 7 Starter (which is the shitty version a machine like that will typically have preinstalled), that's actually a downgrade, I guess.

[@ashii_ii]

@@BilisNegra Yea my HP Mini 210 had Windows 7 Starter, but it was replaced by Linux Mint

[@tristan6509]

@@BilisNegra eh not really, windows 7 starter just doesn't allow you to change the wallpaper or have more than 2gbs of ram. It's perfectly fine unlike windows XP and vista starter which only allows you to have 3 apps open at once...

[@BilisNegra]

@@tristan6509 Oh, I believed the 3 app limitation thinghy was there in 7 Starter, too. My bad, I misremembered.

[@joeshmoe000]

I use the non-SSE2 version of pale moon (which is pretty new - I think last year) on Windows XP Pentium III. QT browser was faster, but less compatible and wouldn't render modern pages.