The History of Mac OS X - A Retrospective

[@ryukoonsp]

Why is your voice so perfect for retrospects?

[@PlanetComputer]

Nobody knows???????????????????????????????

[@Kryptictails]

hmm

[@shxellyyt7656]

Idk and I’m im late

[@96blocks]

I guess it’s because he talks in a calm and clear voice and not at 768 miles per hour

[@Wave_Duck]

His voice is perfect for discussing any topic well

[@C6438911]

I keep saying it, but you are the perfect person to do these kind of things. Your voice is very clear and you explain it in such a manor that it is very pleasant to listen to. Again, a very well made video. You know what you're talking about and the edits are very very good! I hope you will continue and can find interesting subjects to report or review about. But any subject you choose is very interesting. Thank you very much for willing to do this and make such good video's and making them available on youtube. Sorry if I don't know what else to say, but my knowledge about MAC in general is very poor.. But thanks to you I get well informed!

[@MichaelMJD]

Thanks for the kind words! I definitely have some more interesting topics that I want to cover in videos like this! Hopefully you’ll be seeing those in the near future :)

[@manonthedollar]

05:00 Don't forget to mention the "Classic Environment" feature from around this time! These versions of Mac OS X would ship with an additional Mac OS 9 installer disc. You could install OS 9 "inside" of Mac OS X, and run OS 9 applications in "Classic" mode, which was like an emulator(? not sure exactly how it worked), complete with the OS 9 desktop and Platinum theme. That was always interesting to me.

[@MaxOakland]

classic mode was a kind of virtualization, not emulation

[@themacintoshnerd]

It’s basically like using the coherence mode on parallels but with OS 9 on PowerPC.

[@ciach0_]

I'd love to see a sequel to this video!

[@addiesworld1855]

hey Michael! just letting u know there are a couple of flaws: 1) the Mac app store was first introduced in an update in snow leopard 2) you could still buy a physical copy of Lion on a flash drive other than that you did a good job! keep up the good work!

[@Arctic740]

For 2 it is not official so it can’t count

[@addiesworld1855]

i remember being able to buy lion on a flash drive at apple stores back when it came out

[@TimurTripp2]

@computers with nikita nikita There was an official version of Lion on a USB drive sold by Apple for $69. Any version after Lion on a USB drive would have to be unofficial.

[@kirishima638]

Porting from the classic 'Toolbox' to Carbon required more than a simple 'tune up'! It's just that OSX's native development environment was so completely foreign that porting an application required a total rewrite in a completely different language and environment. Carbon continued to be used because of this and developers were only forced to use Cocoa/AppKit when Apple switched to 64bit. It's still around and still useful for a few things.

[@themacintoshnerd]

yeah carbon is still around on macOS you just can't use the gui portions of it.

[@jaykebird2go]

I realize this was only a 13 minute video, but this felt surprisingly brief and surface level. Each version barely got enough time to be properly discussed, and it sometimes seemed like there was more going on in the screenshots than was even mentioned by the voiceover. I wanted to hear more about the awkward transition/handling of System 9 apps on early versions of OS X. It kind of felt like this video was originally twice this long and it was forcibly cut down to this size. I may be a bit biased in regards to usually watching retrospectives and such that are 30+ minutes long, but I would've preferred a longer video that actually gave this stuff the time it needed to be explored and the impact shown. I also realize this is a years-old video, so commenting on it now may be kind of worthless. But yeah. Thank you for the effort though! Of course, each person has their own opinion. I'm enjoying your more recent stuff! :)

[@ShinyElGhosteo]

I am in LOVE with these documentary style videos!!

[@rodmatronic3011]

Same!

[@TimurTripp2]

One minor correction: Lion was sold on physical media, a $69 USB drive; Mountain Lion was the first version to be sold exclusively in the App Store. You can still find some NOS Lion USB drives on eBay.

[@UltraPoyoColt]

What a great video. The classic Mac OS X version will always be remembered!

[@rafaelamadeus5155]

Microsoft and Apple once again changed the version number in 2021: Apple: macOS 11 (Big Sur) -> macOS 12 (Monterrey). Microsoft: Windows 10 -> Windows 11 (Leaked Beta).

[@ktsp2538]

I saw glasses ad before this, On a more on topic note This is a REALLY good video and you did a good job with the audio and footage and research, maybe you could give another operating system the same treatment( I know you did video on development builds of versions of Windows like XP and Vista but it would be cool to see this for a different OS). That's all I have to say for now, bye.

[@MichaelMJD]

Thank you for the comment! I had fun doing this one and definitely want to do more like it.

[@nubwagon3758]

I love the mac's features today, but I was so sad when Yosemite launched. I quickly missed the style from previous OS's. Today, I look at windows 10, and Big Sur, and miss the fine details put into the design of the OS's. Now it's flat, and lifeless imo. Thanks for the vid m8, I enjoyed it!

[@MaxOakland]

Apple didn’t replace Blue Box with Carbon. They added Carbon and renamed Blue Box to Classic Mode for marketing purposes Also Mac OS X server 1.0 didn’t include carbon

[@burnedoils]

Michael you make well put out and informative videos, very much appreciated

[@MichaelMJD]

thank you!

[@mainfighter]

Not that I like or use macOS but this was still interesting to watch and just a good video.

[@michaelperugini4199]

same

[@stephanemignot100]

@@michaelperugini4199 Same, I hate windows but I'm curious and open minded...

[@michaelperugini4199]

@@stephanemignot100 Oh i am too, i bought a used mac , first mac OSX style so i could check it out and relate... WINDOWS 10 is trash and WINDOWS 11 is worse.

[@stephanemignot100]

@@michaelperugini4199 I used XP almost three years, ok experience too be fair! ^

[@michaelperugini4199]

@@stephanemignot100 but at least it was fun and entertaining to use, not boring and so damn much a memory hog! i have had my share of blue screens in all oses.. BUT 10 and 11 are the worse

[@Oelmiene]

The dark mode is awesome! I wanted something like this for my Windows laptop a long time but decided against it when I had to change the registry entries for color shades myself and didn't want to go through the hassle and possible malfunctions as I only followed descriptions of other but couldn't have fixed anything myself if something broke.

[@ephemeralViolette]

Windows 10 dark mode is just pure black anyways, not dark grey...

[@biscuits16]

I've been a subscriber for a couple of years. Your videos are getting better and better, keep it up!

[@MichaelMJD]

Thanks for sticking around! : )

[@justinianthegreatandnerd6377]

@@MichaelMJD Yo, I saw a comment that asked to update this? Can you, it seems interesting.

[@MichaelMJD]

@@justinianthegreatandnerd6377 I don't have any immediate plans to but it could happen at some point!

[@JustAK1rb0]

Someone called Darwin out there on Earth: Stop downloading my real name!

[@seshpenguin]

Ooo I like the format!

[@LOTR_BTTF]

So apparently I've been mispronouncing OS X wrong the entire time. Pronouncing the X instead of saying "OS 10" 😁 Though in my defense I have very little experience using Macs (and most of the ones I have had were really old ones that had Windows installed on them cause they were way out of date on OS X).

[@tanmoymridha5002]

Loved the retro synthwave music for a retrospective video💙💚

[@jalyngaming435]

Hey Micheal you rock!!!😃

[@OfficialRey202X]

Good Video! I Use macOS On My MacBook Air! Can't Wait For macOS Mojave For The Overhaul Of The Dark Mode!

[@alejandroooow]

watertap you’re the fuck here bb

[@SupaCLUCK]

watertap Nice grammar.

[@weegeenumberone2]

Obviously...

[@Mr._Lechkar]

Nice video! This will surely get a lot of attention! :D

[@alm2215]

0:07 i can smell the pixels

[@cwbh10]

I still remember getting my first mac with 10.4 Tiger

[@x_Soul7]

The times when Mac OS Mojave was the most recent os were gold times

[@danielniffenegger7698]

Please do a chronological comparison of Windows and Mac similar to what you have here and with your Windows versions. So many videos just show screenshots that only show key UI. Thank you

[@AO554]

I grew up with macOS, since 10.4 with an iMac G4 and Mac Mini G4. Damm it's changed and I'm glad I hackintoshed because I've missed using macOS

[@Da532]

AO554 AOOOOOOOO

[@c0rseyt]

AO what are you doing here lmao real Steve Jobs hours who up

[@c0rseyt]

AYY OHHHHHHH

[@c0rseyt]

AeroFusion AONNAISE MAYONNAISE

[@TheMorc]

oh hello, my friend.

[@DeadJacob]

i *_leik_* your videos also your voice is the best in the retrospective series👍😀👍👍

[@lemagreengreen]

It can't be overstated just how much the crappy MacOS during the 90s hurt that company. I know it's easier to pin their problems on hardware etc and it's true in part but MacOS was next-level crappy. OSX was basically necessary and they decided to do it right.

[@HazyWinner55]

you should do one on windows

[@MikeFromDownUnder]

Yazir Burnside Why? Surely he has something better to do with his time?!

[@hanniffydinn6019]

Yazir Burnside no. That's boring and tedious as fuck. They were always playing catch up with Apple anyway.

[@GeckoSharky]

"were"

[@memoraphile3623]

still are

[@GeckoSharky]

Do continue, and if you are wondering: I'm typing this on an mac min... Do tell me about the crazy advances they are making in desktop OS development.

[@johndostech]

One of your best videos yet!

[@MichaelMJD]

Thank you! Glad to hear that

[@xBioTV]

keep up the good work :)

[@rolandogamez]

Lion was the first version labelled "OSX" not 10.8. IMO they should have called it MacOS 11 since it was very much a new start for the MacOS!

[@AghanimsScepterr]

Really well made vid where'd you get all that info from tho?

[@mojave5661]

5:25 jagwire. Greg from Apple Explained, is it you?

[@herrpez]

Guess I've been saying that word wrong all my life. Jagwire... huh!

[@MarkHyde]

Use macOS as my main driver computer OS since switching after the release of Windows 10 and haven't looked back. Planning o switch fully to Linux soon.

[@dreadlordgaming6513]

would you get windows 11

[@LemonChieff]

I've done them all.Windows is "fine" if you want to play games. I do like linux but I can run most linux (command line) programs from the bash terminal thanks to Brew… So it's really hard to go back to linux and give up xcode for coding c++. It's my favorite ide, debugging on it is just so easy.

[@MarkHyde]

I'm more interested in Unix-a-like operating systems myself. I don't play games on a computer usually.

[@ivocostacunha6795]

@@LemonChieff I heard that Microsoft Visual Studio is great for C++, personnaly I think the way Xcode organise files is weird, not just opening directories but usine "workspaces" Edit: Mb just sax the 1 year ago lol

[@bradtoddler3765]

Hey Michael, please update this video because the latest version of macOS is released (macOS Catalina).

[@triman7039]

actually lion was physically purchaseable but you would get the lion installation usb which was only avaliable for a limited time

[@LemonChieff]

I'm using the latest beta of macOS Mojave. I think it's way better. It feels faster. I don't know if it's just me but it genuinely feels faster and I didn't do a fresh install, I just upgraded to Mojave beta (Like I've done in the past with Yosemite) after a time machine backup. The dark mode is great, especially in xcode. I've been wanting that for a while. All my software from high sierra works. I really like it. It's not adding useless shit, it just makes the shit we already have better.

[@kjjustinXD]

Running Mojave on my early 2008 MacBook pro :D

[@Windows7Pro2009]

kjjustinXD through dosdude1’s Mojave patcher?

[@ember-moonglow]

You know, MacOS 10 is gone for good with 11, 12, and 13, you could do a full retrospective nowadays covering every version, if you wanted.

[@TheTechnoGuy18]

I love your video!!

[@MichaelMJD]

Thank you!

[@richardtreu2967]

Mac OS X 10.6.3 was THE perfect OS in my eyes

[@Lightning2011]

oh same here

[@shaunaymos7673]

great video!

[@andymate2006]

I had alot of problems with Mac OS X Lion. I remember all the kernel panics and the stability of apps was very unstable. Mountain Lion was way better and fixed alot of issues I was having.

[@winmactutoriales5218]

Yeah Lion was like the Windows ME from the macs

[@DatGamerYolo]

@@winmactutoriales5218 >:(

[@notmuch5030]

12:22 0 divided by 0 eqals

[@vadiquemyself]

I’m always dropping such videos on the OS X version 10.6, as well as I dropped it back in 2010s switching to Debian fro PowerPC. But now Apple has M processors, and I’m thinkin bout giving it another chance, broken by the switch to x86 I don’t wish to use

[@kevinvijayvijay1806]

i miss Steve jobs but new hero is MJD

[@josepvalenciaperello4856]

Snow Leopard already had the App Store, this is why Apple sells the disc. I had a Mac with Leopard and I bought the S Leopard CD and from there, through the App Store, I could upgrade to El Capitan.

[@HazyWinner55]

nice film

[@MichaelMJD]

Thank you!

[@ComputerMonkey64]

8:25 Lion did come on a flash drive from the Apple Store online, but I don't think anyone really cared

[@typischenederlander870]

love the design

[@pastmidnitee]

El capitan introduced that nice gesture when you shake the moise and it becomes big

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

After being a Mac man for so many years, OS X was the point where I gave up on Apple and jumped ship to Linux.

[@ShiroCh_ID]

so now i know why microsoft also do the same to windows using scheme of 10 or X on macOS that resembles last version of that os but always updated

[@Gnawy]

its sad to see apple switch to macOS 11 with big sur last year but im glad that they are not making much of a huge difference for non iphone users

[@jonathangonzalez4803]

You should update the segment for 2020

[@easycompzeelandold2521]

Little note; there was something like Siri back in the 80’# and 90’s until they implemented Siri it was just called voice commands!

[@eMorphized]

That's a slightly different thing, which just adds commands to a basic search function.

[@mikv8]

The 10.4 Tiger is the best OSX release ever in my opinion. It's so stable, light, fast and polished and can run beautifully on anything from a 300MHz G3 with 128MB RAM to Quad Xeon Mac Pro. The 10.5 Leopard is definitely the worst one ever. Apple did a good job with Snow Leopard and later releases but they never got to a point of making a perfect OS such as Tiger used to be.

[@stephanemignot100]

Leopard works great on my 1.25ghz eMac, it gives me way for more choices, this old thing being my gaming rig. Only thing I miss is Classic support but Classic mostly sucks since Jaguar so....

[@MasonFowlkesKenneth]

I see somebody listens to Electronic Gems...

[@hanniffydinn6019]

Such a great story, Steve jobs just knocked it out of the park with next. People still don't realise jobs became a billionaire not from Apple or next! It was Pixar. The guys a friggin genius.

[@razor6202]

Felt like this was either a Eckharta Ladder or summoning salt video lol

[@JaredtheRabbit]

macOS is basically a fork of NeXtStep.

[@murrmiaow]

Which is just a fork of FreeBSD. Apple and FreeBSD still send each other security patches TO THIS DAY.

[@pullingonthestrings]

I unironically listen to this song pretty frequently lol

[@DhavidSetiawanKilluaDhavid]

Still waiting for OSX Server PPC and maybe Mac OS Server

[@pythonistia]

os x el capitan was the best os ever made by apple, istill use it as my daily driver in 2022

[@CajonPassStudios]

OS X Lion was the final version of macOS to be released during Steve Jobs' lifetime.

[@lianumbara2735]

So Sad 😭😭😭 Steve Jobs

[@masterkamen371]

The older skeumorphic OS X versions look better to me but whatever it's just personal preference.

[@baconfister]

I actually really do miss Snow Leopard 10.6.8. It just worked, and on top of that, it actually REMEMBERED all of my individual window view settings!!! Only thing missing from Snow Leopard in my opinion would have been PPC support… I still have a couple older machines stuck on 10.4 (since 10.5 sucked) and wish dearly that I had 10.6.8 on them!

[@MikeFromDownUnder]

R.I.P. Steve Jobs... 😢

[@sir7544]

lol good one

[@vogonp4287]

I miss the non flat look of older operating systems.

[@runnerduck4844]

Apple may have some bad business practices, but DANG are their products beautiful!

[@TGAProMKM]

interesting history of MAC OS X......

[@eupher2]

My Mac Pro is still on 10.11 and my Macbook Pro is still on 10.13. You forgot to mention that Apple killed off all support for 32bit apps in 10.14.

[@geotechmore8855]

Next you should do the history of Linux..

[@VeritasVortex]

Microsoft Sam narrating an Apple video 😂

[@lcplayz4964]

Oh yeah Watching on Virtual PC 2007

[@Arctic740]

Why?

[@ryanheuer9542]

I loved Mac Os X Snow Leopard... Too bad I accidentally destroyed my install disc because MICROSOFT IS EVIL when it comes to *NOT* deleting all your data. I kinda liked the old, 3D-ish graphics.

[@sbn025]

04:00 lol, they seriously charge you for a beta??

[@zuluecho5886]

That's Apple

[@swissmediastuff]

I miss Aqua

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa305]

11:13 *APFS* for *AP* ple *F* ile *S* ystem *_VERY ORIGINAL NAME HERE LOL_* :loading:

[@Draconic_Aura]

snow leopard still sounds like the default mac os.

[@matsuyamaalex]

Face time can have up to 32 people in it imagine the shitstorm that would be trying to get them all-in-one room

[@SearInMinecraft]

wheres Catalina? And Big Sur?

[@Skokapus]

this is before both catalina and big sur existed

[@WaterlessIce]

and now we have Mac OS 11

[@BeautifulAngelBlossom]

Now Mac Big Sur is version 11 i think

[@rafaelamadeus5155]

I think this is not only mac OS that dropped the "10" numbering. The next OS is Monterrey, with version 12. And don't forget the leaked Windows 11 release.

[@danielyaseen]

@@rafaelamadeus5155 Windows 11 has been finally released

[@8GB215]

@@danielyaseen no it hasn’t it was just leaked

[@Trgbdrsx]

@@8GB215 lmao what

[@alkalaid6850]

FOR THE LAST TIME BLOODY PRONOUNCED JAGUAR NOT JAGUWIRE

[@Kitsudote]

OS X Lion was the Vista of Apple

[@WisconsinCentralProductions]

im watching on mac OS X 10.13 high sierra

[@majoraslayer64]

Someone unplugged my *Jag Wire*

[@leesavings7426]

Greg from Apple Explained?

[@radman999]

Apple was so much cooler when Steve came back.

[@CoasterMan13Official]

We need a movie on the founding of Apple Computer, with Ashton Kutcher as young Steve Jobs. But the problem with Apple is you have to buy a new computer every few years. Say for example, you buy a new iMac in 2016, next, you buy another new iMac in 2018, and then, you buy another new iMac in 2020. Apple products are more than half of all the world's e-waste (or should I say, iWaste) It drives me nuts!

[@dexterhaxxor]

What do you mean? They don't just stop working or anything, they just don't get the new version. I am on macOS 13 right now, but macOS 10.13 is still perfectly usable.

[@danielunderwood9651]

Until October 2021, I daily drove a 2010 MacBook Air at which point I upgraded to a 2020 MacBook Air with the M1 chip. Now, this may be anecdotal, but I would say 9 years for a computer isn't bad at all!

[@jimmyhe7769]

Anyone here because of macOS 11.0 Big Sur? :P

[@Windows_98]

Did you know, Windows 98 is an operating system

[@psychpayload]

A

[@eMorphized]

It isn't, actually. It's a graphical shell for DOS.

[@HazyWinner55]

hi