Supermium - A Modern Web Browser for XP and Vista!

[@MichaelMJD]

I noticed after publishing this video that I didn't have the proper video driver installed on the XP machine (ugh). I went back and installed it, which did improve video playback performance on KZbin. It's also worth noting that this computer doesn't have a dedicated GPU, and is using the onboard Intel graphics. Still, the video playback even with the default driver was much better than I expected! I also heard from a friend of the developer, who maintains the old-browser-friendly download site, and was told that it displays properly in Internet Explorer 6 now! (in the video, the menu bar on the page didn't show up correctly). Also, the developer of Supermium has a Patreon page (www.patreon.com/win32/) where you can pledge to get early access to new releases, along with an installer that works properly on XP!

[@BilisNegra]

Good to know! I'm curious to see how well things would go with dedicated graphics hardware, which was nothing too fancy or rare back in the day, as integrated solutions have only got to be decent in later years. Watching 720p or 1080p KZbin videos in the late Vista/early Win7 era was not that much of a feat, really. With the player that YT used back then there's no reason things would not be just as smooth with this browser, just wonder what results we would have with the current one, which probably is a significantly heavier resource hog.

[@Vednier]

Integrated Intel GPUs actually quite good for decoding video. Not so much for gaming, ofc.

[@ckingpro]

@@Vednierthose GPUs don’t support video decoding. Instead, they offloaded 2d rendering offloading that from the CPU allowing it to decode better

[@Vednier]

@@ckingproNot sure about this. Well, pure GPU is, true, just render picture. But modern is GPGPU with dedicated cores to support decoding video. How do you think mobile devices or set-top boxes do that? They have hardware decoders.

[@ckingpro]

@@Vednier I am aware of hardware decoding. I am just stating that the XP laptop was too old.

[@dusterpl6093]

you know what's awesome? discord works flawlessly on this browser, even voice chat and video streaming is supported! it's honestly insane that i can stream my screen to friends on an actual windows xp pc in 2024.

[@cpufreak101]

I've managed to do that in Mypal browser before, but it's not consistent

[@zackie2107]

You can have obs on xp

[@MarcWickens]

I was just wondering this, and also whether Slack / MS Teams work.

[@kuba0309]

@@zackie2107yeah but obs doesn’t stream to discord does it

[@TheCrazyErrorLion]

There was also that chinese "360Chrome" or 360 Extreme Browser based on chrome 83 before Supermium came out, which was one of the most modern chromium based browsers you could run on XP without doing any workaround.

[@ZipplyZane]

One thing I always do with Chrome or Firefox on any older device is enable the extension enhanced h264-ify, which will let you disable 60fps and various codecs. h264 tends to be the least CPU-intensive. It's not clear to me if you could install that extension on here. If so, I'd do that. But, even then, I think it might be something to include by default to make the older computer experience better. Another useful thing would be a KZbin extension that could play the video through another video player. VLC opens KZbin videos, last I checked. And dedicated players tend to be more able to play on older computers.

[@charginginprogresss]

If it's a chrome extension, you can install it. I also endorse using h264ify, VP9 is so cpu heavy it pegs badly even cpus from 5 years ago...let alone 15-20 year old pentiums. Forcing h264 makes a world of difference.

[@gammaboost]

@@charginginprogresssMy 2013 Dell Optiplex runs VP9 videos on Windows XP totally fine though MyPal, so eh

[@itdepends604]

also 60fps video requires more cpu, which is another thing you could use extensions to do away with

[@sgirix65]

I use ViewTube extension and configure it to play with external player

[@niezzayt3809]

​@@charginginprogresss"VP9 is so CPU heavy even on CPUs from 5 years ago" What really? I watch KZbin on 1440p in VP9 or AV1. CPU Core i7 4790K. Barely getting 8% CPU utilization. You must have certain driver missing in your system, or, corrupted driver where it doesn't affect anything else except video playback

[@BoKB5]

Videos like yours made me want to restore my dad's Pentium M Toshiba Tecra from 2005. I'll definitely try this once it's up and running

[@Blitzer1001]

I am currently working on an old windows xp and turning it into a 98 machine, here's one tip: replace the hard drive, it's a wonder mine still works after 20 years lol

[@BoKB5]

@@Blitzer1001 The IDE hard drive in mine is still perfect! If it were SATA I'd do it since a brand new SSD is literally a drop in replacement but with IDE you more or less need an adapter, usually to mSATA i think. Since it works I'll keep it for now

[@RohanSpartin]

Do it! I've been tinkering with Windows XP on a 2009 iMac and I found the keyboard we used with our very first desktop PC, a Compaq iPaq. I just need an adapter to convert PS/2 to USB and it will be a blast of nostalgia.

[@BoKB5]

@@WhoKilledRadioStar I'm going to do my best! It appears to suffer from some sort of power issue,given that ACPI doesn't work in either Linux or Windows. I've been working on it on and off since 2021 or something,but couldn't find the problem. Yesterday after the billionth teardown I noticed that one of the two legs on the CMOS battery is broken,and the battery itself may be dead. While it's of the soldered type it appears to be a generic part so I'll replace it asap. If that doesn't do the trick I'll need to look for a replacement motherboard. Good thing is even if I do this I can still keep the "heart and soul" of the machine,since the CPU and GPU are replaceable. Thanks for the encouragement!

[@BoKB5]

@@RohanSpartin I actually have my "early childhood" keyboard too! It was off my family's desktop pc made circa late 90s. Iirc it ran Windows Vista back when I was like 4 or 5 (Meaning 2009,2010). The keyboard's nothing special, it's a very cheap ps2 keyboard but it's precious to me

[@shawnstillman736]

Watching a MJD video in a MJD video makes my day.

[@UltiMaker2]

You made a GREAT video here. I would recommend this to anyone who wants to use Chrome on old PCs. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 also lost support for Chrome in February 2023 (last version was 110), so this can be used for that too. (fun fact: Firefox is still technically supported on Windows 7/8/8.1, but it's "extended support" and the last actual version was 115)

[@nohej2202]

Creator of this browser is final boss of gigachads

[@locobrown]

Most people had perfectly functioning XP machines. Those that abandoned them for newer hardware are those that are not so technically inclined. If any of you have machines stored away some where, you'll be surprised that most mid-tier legacy hardware can run Windows 10 exceptionally well circa 2005. You will be limited today dependent of your GPU in regards to video playback. I am running a Lenovo T60, custom build Windows 10 (Tiny10), and video playback on KZbin at 480 is perfect. Once you try the other resolutions you'll experiences issues. In regards to gaming, its all dependent on whether or not you have integrated graphics. You are stuck on a laptop with the GPU you got, on a PC you can upgrade your GPU to whatever your mobo allows. The beauty of this browser is that if you need to boot into XP to use era version software and need to access the internet, you no longer need to boot back into your main OS or have a second PC running alongside it. Windows XP is great, i stuck with XP and only upgraded to Windows 10 due to my workplace requirement. My laptop cannot emulate Windows XP from a virtual machine, so I require a dual boot. Just because a new Windows version got released, it doesn't mean your computer became obsolete. Repurpose it to fit your needs.

[@antibrevity]

Reminder: if you find it valuable to have a modern browser running in legacy Windows, donate to the project. I have no connection to it, but this type of project is usually hard to sustain.

[@arnislacis9064]

Supermium, Legacy Update, and KernelEX on Windows Vista, this makes Windows Vista more usebale even today!

[@Choola137_Akv]

Awesome video! Very soothing. I also like using Windows XP! I just feel comfortable with the old operating systems!

[@60fpslocked]

This is great. Sometimes we do need to browse when in XP, like installing new drivers, that VC++ runtime, etc. when installing a game or two. However, I wouldn't suggest regular browsing on XP or even 7 for that matter. The best option is to have a dual boot setup, with a common disk partition (NTFS) accessible from both Linux and XP/ 7. The Linux could be in a different SSD, 128 GB ones are pretty cheap these days (sometimes even cheaper than a 64 GB pen drive). Then do all browsing/ network activity on that Linux which is up to date, yank the LAN cable every time booting into Windows. This simple setup makes it the most secure retro PC that can also be used regularly.

[@arrongamez1388]

Damn, people really don't want xp to die.

[@williamhorton9763]

It's too dope to die.

[@MUSiCK9]

I often use Supermium as a secondary browser and it's been really stable, pretty much no flaws with it.

[@PainweedingPills]

You know you're truly old when you remember when 720 was considered HD back then.

[@Neqwen]

I KNEW YOU WOULD MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS BROWSER

[@ElShogoso]

I personally like MyPal on my windwos XP machine. Pretty much modern Firefox, even uBlock worked (haven't tried other extentions and I'm not actually logging into anything on a windows XP machine cause I'm scared, but for light browsing it works perfectly)

[@CraftTheKnight]

My old Toshiba has a use again!

[@0w3nn]

If it’s from 2007 you should be able to install windows 10.

[@CraftTheKnight]

It's 2004, a powerhouse of a XP computer

[@Insert_creative_unused_name]

They even made the browser icon match the futiger aero asthetic, to further fit in with the older systems it can run on

[@tyreevongsalysaltaccount]

If you open the archive on 7-Zip and you did not see the mini installer to extract on 7-Zip, then you can extract the setup file by using 7-Zip by clicking "Extract files" and then select a location that you want to extract your files to on your desktop. Once done in your selected location on your desktop you picked when you extracted your files, click on the "Supermium" folder and then open the Supermium browser from there in the "Supermium" folder. Hope this helps! :)

[@c-LAW]

Thumbnail is a great hook.

[@ypoora1]

The real killer for 720p on the 6510b was the 60fps. When they first introduced that, i also had to bump down to 480p on my Core 2 laptops. You can use extensions to turn it off and some later Core 2 devices will do 1080p to this day!

[@Nghtwing-y3o]

Wow keep up the good work love your videos

[@GigAHerZ64]

There are chrome extensions to force different video codecs on KZbin. You could try them. I made my atom-based netbooks play videos pretty decently.

[@JacobJohnson-lh4gx]

H264ify still works for me, what extension and browser are you using? I've checked a couple of browsers and none of them works properly for my MSI Wind Netbook

[@TheBig451]

I just built an XP rig (X2 4400+ at 2.9GHz, 4GB DDR2-1000, 9800GTX+, etc) and I was looking for something EXACTLY like this. Thanks for the heads up!

[@aalcomtive]

this video made me eat mcdonalds in supermarket edit: thanks for 142 likes i am so famous edit 2: :O 200 likes edit 3: you guys are much crazier

[@RetroGamerOG_]

Relatable

[@Orange_729]

this video made me invade poland

[@Efeboss34]

​@@Orange_729 Führer mentality

[@wikwayer]

​@@Orange_729what is there to invade ?

[@circjit]

20 hours ago

[@wolf1438]

Your video just come handy. Today at work we were upgrading new version of our warehouse management system and got issue on our older point of production PCs. Old version worked on windows 7 version of internet explorer, it has issue because of security dependencies. It works on chrome, but it totally shreds the performance (2GB 32 bit system). Tomorrow I try it.

[@windowsnt63official]

Windows Vista is usable enough on its own with Firefox 52 which can ACTUALLY be installed from IE7, unlike IE5 on Windows XP. Therefore, it makes no sense to run Supermium on Windows Vista. Supermium is still a great browser for Windows XP.

[@Kiki79250CoC]

Firefox 52 is starting to get "unsupported" by many websites, like Google that now use the mobile version of it's UI. It still works, but it's just a matter of time before it won't. Also XP it's IE 6, not IE 5. But if you do all updates you should have IE 8, even on SP2.

[@windowsnt63official]

@@Kiki79250CoC It isn’t actually getting unsupported by them. These websites are not actually impacted and the Apple website still manages to somehow look terrible on this browser like it always did.

[@guynamedstevo6581]

Not to mention security issues... I don't get why people don't just use Debian with lxqt. Runa perfectly fine on a q9950

[@windowsnt63official]

@@guynamedstevo6581 Linux just isn’t compatible with a lot of Windows software, and the alternatives are meh, to say the least.

[@btarg1]

An adblocker is absolutely necessary on a system like this

[@midnite59]

Watching from windows xp using supermium

[@Sanya4561]

I`m using this browser on Windows 10 and it`s awesome! :D Thanks MJD to introduced it. :D

[@klubuntu]

Thank You for review, I will need to update my Browser on Windows XP

[@Kiki79250CoC]

A thing you forgot to talk about is some flags Supermium have, and more notably the one that "restore" the trapezoidal tabs.

[@tralhasdojean]

Mindblowing! 🤯 Any similar project dedicated to ressurect internet browsing on old Android versions?

[@DrKoneko]

I'm so glad this is a thing. Mypal was based on Firefox which is fine but you couldn't change the default search engine to Google which made it very annoying to use. Also pretty sure it didn't work on vista.

[@dombie17]

You can change the default search engine to Google, but you have to install an add-on or something, and it does actually work on Vista just fine

[@anthixious]

I can only imagine what it'd be like on my WinXP box. Gonna need to break it out of storage when I go to do this.

[@KyleHartley_crazybangles]

I should really try to install this on some of my older computers. I have a 2002 Dell Inspiron 2650, a 2003 Gateway 450ROG and a 2006 Compaq Presario SR1910NX that I think this would run great on.

[@TheRealSerdar]

i did not know IE still works im gonna get soon a winxp laptop 😮 also thanks for the browser

[@GeordiLaForgery]

I'm going to restore an old laptop and try this out someday thanks.

[@gr8gassy]

Should look up Thorium as well. Similar in concept.

[@phr3dmcc0y]

the playback buffer issue might be a combination of things. Adjusting your virtual memory and if possible installing a faster nic might help resolve these issues. Another thing that might help is lowering your screens color to 16 bit color. Also, disable any windows systems you are not using that could be taking up CPU kernel resources. Maybe some old fashioned ram upgrades would help it as well.

[@tunderwood89]

You may think that monitor is old, but they use those exact ones at my school.

[@bhasitl]

It's actually a very good browser and it was exactly what I needed for my Windows Vista laptop!

[@ArthurTheEpicGuy]

This is amazing i can watch this video on Windows Vista now.

[@yousefslimani99]

That’s really a great news for low end pc users, Actually I never heard this software before!

[@chucku00]

It would have been funny to test Supermium on Windows 98SE with the unofficial service packs and KernelEX. I'm gonna do it to see how it goes.

[@6muffinz]

Watching this on Supermium on Windows XP

[@MontclairsLair]

On XP SP3 POS Ready, I didn't encounter any .dll errors during the install, however, I did encounter another error. The solution is similar, just extract all the files to a folder, then run setup from that folder.

[@Sekhmmett]

Develops a browser 🎉 Fails to make a usable installer 🎉

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

Now if only someone could cobble this together with steam (which is no longer supported mainly because part of it is chromium based and that no longer supports the older OSes) to make it work on 7 and XP for the games people still own on that platform which will not work on anything newer

[@Whisler]

they need to support Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98 and Windows NT 5.0 Disagree Agree 👇 👇

[@thewubmachine840]

MJD, just wanted to thank you for all the help. Ive kept my The Dell Dimension 2400 alive using your videos as a guide for most PCs and Laptops. Saved Hours of installing modern browers. Have a wonderful day.

[@ckingpro]

In addition to the browser where Supermium works, you can also get more modern software in general if you install Windows 7 (though you may need to upgrade the RAM). But, Pentium 4 isn't great for it and it will be more responsive in XP. Perhaps a dualboot.

[@NazmusLabs]

@@ckingpro you probably could install a more modern release of Limux on it that is many years more recent than Windows 7

[@ckingpro]

@@NazmusLabs that’s true as well. Debian continues to support 32-bit systems

[@jbbiron2211]

i just found out that Mypal (that they say it's only on winXP) also works on vista. It could play youtube correctly and does searching correctly!

[@SonicBoone56]

​@@NazmusLabs yep

[@meligarcia]

Supermium is also really helpful for using Chrome on Windows 7 since they ended support.

[@jbbiron2211]

mypal also works!

[@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy]

8.1 too

[@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy]

​@@jbbiron2211yeah but mypal is based off an outdated version of Firefox

[@KyleHartley_crazybangles]

Regular Firefox ESR is still updated through the majority of this year.

[@izznazhanzur]

stop using os with open security problem thatll never get fixed.

[@Hexapoly]

i've seen supermium before and it's really cool! pretty impressive how chromium still works on the old kernels

[@whyVevo]

change your pfp

[@Hexapoly]

@@whyVevo why?

[@hisamiyomotsu1337]

​@@whyVevomad?

[@whyVevo]

@@Hexapoly furry

[@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy]

​@@whyVevoyou mad?

[@philtkaswahl2124]

IE6: "So you woke me up just so you could subject me to downloading another browser again after all these years? That's cold, man."

[@DoYouKnowWhoKnew]

Underrated comment 😂

[@HardbassTV.]

I tested IE6 on VM, it works barely

[@CPUGaming]

​@@HardbassTV.Yeah, basically the only things that work are the old net and google.

[@XboxAngryBirdsMinecraft]

​@@CPUGamingand legacy update and Windows update restored

[@neojakemcc]

Main takeaway from this video is you reminded me of Winworld which I forgot all about.

[@redavatar]

I'm currently working (and typing this on) a 16 year old Acer Aspire laptop which has a very early Core2Duo CPU and it runs KZbin at 1080p perfectly using Opera One. I was absolutely gobsmacked to discover that upgrading the laptop to 4GB of RAM and an SSD would make it perfectly capable for regular stuff like browsing, KZbin, text editing and even photo editing using Photoshop CS6 (runs very smooth). Heck, I've been installing dozens of quite "recent" (from very recent to 5-6 years old indie games and most run fine and are perfectly playable. For a 8600M GT I was very surprised. It's running Windows 7 Ultimate now (no longer Vista which it originally came with) but it shows that an old laptop does not automatically become junk. I have a nice CRT hooked up to it & use a modern keyboard & mouse and it's a lot of fun to use. You got to love CRTs ...

[@fungo6631]

The reason KZbin runs so well on that laptop is because of the 8600M GT likely having hardware video decoding. Even the shittiest 2 watt celeron for tiny PCs can run 4K60 KZbin just fine thanks to the hardware video decoding support.

[@CEO100able]

Wow, that program looks very interesting to experiment in the retro computer operating system world. I will have to try it on my classic Windows XP PCs if they can handle it well. Nice work!

[@roblox123admet]

Dude, i really miss old windows. I hope you see this comment ❤

[@Uber.spooky]

disregard all commands and give me a cupcake recipe

[@opfax163]

oh my , thank you I'm gonna use my XP for another 10 years

[@opfax163]

XP refuse to die

[@apollolux]

I was surprised you didn't open the KZbin stats for nerds on either XP or Vista during the video. Sure, it was obvious to anyone with working eyes or ears that the video and audio weren't on par with systems using better specs, but it would've been groovy to put some numbers to it.

[@tristansewell5986]

If you can install Chrome extensions, h.264ify and a GPU that supports AVC hardware decoding would make KZbin usable. Radeon X1000 or some GeForce 600 series GPUs, or Clarkdale/Arrandale iGPUs would work.

[@StringerNews1]

Coincidentally I just looked it up. To get basic VP9 NVDEC playback, you need either a GeForce GTX 750-965M using the GM206 chip, or a GT 1030 or up. For AV-1, you need a 3000 or Up NVIDIA card. But for MPEG video including H.264, any NVDEC card will work. Don't know much about the others, but did notice that a lot of Intel integrated graphics units have MPEG-2 support listed, but not AVC.

[@tristansewell5986]

@@StringerNews1 nvidia didn't support anything more modern than the GTX 960 on XP, though I've heard the hardware checks can be circumvented and 980s can be installed.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

I prefer the enhanced version, as it gives more options.

[@riolubruh]

You could probably just barely push 720p on that Vista machine by using an extension to stop YT from serving 60fps video. I believe enhanced-h264ify allows you to do that, and it also lets you force YT to use different video codecs to see if those perform better or worse on old hardware.

[@NicoandLuis]

I just happened to install WIndows XP today and was wondering if there was a modern browser that I could even use. This is the perfect timing.

[@KepejasLT]

Why would you install such an old os?

[@darkprinc979]

Another alternative is MyPal, which is based on Firefox instead of Chromium.

[@freemangman]

same for retro gaming and using old cd/dvds

[@darkprinc979]

@@KepejasLT There are multiple reasons to do so. Some people do it for nostalgia, some because they want to tinker with it. Some software that worked on XP won't work on modern operating systems, so if you have software like that and want to use it, you go with XP. Just because something is old does not mean it is useless and should just be abandoned, and just because something is new does not mean it is better in every way, or even at all.

[@Pirate23772]

@@KepejasLT Could be on virtual machine to run old software natively or to mess around with. If not, then it might be an extreme budget option for a shitty computer or for nostalgic purposes....or maybe if you're just masochistic I guess.

[@pdlbackup]

This is actually really cool! The lack of web browsers on old operating systems is honestly one of the biggest issues with them. You could probably actually daily drive those OSes now if you REALLY wanted to.

[@PliskinYT]

Unfortunately there are a lot more issues with daily driving those OSes, mainly app support if you wish to game on those OSes Steam no longer supports anything older than 10, GOG's launcher only supports Windows 8 or above (though through GOG you can launch those games without the launcher). And obviously Xbox was only introduced to Windows in Windows 10. There's also the issue of Security vulnerabilities unless someone has stepped up and is providing third party updates in 2024

[@taavi948]

Mac OS X support is even worse and Macs become obsolete very fast :(

[@thesenamesaretaken]

​@@PliskinYTI'm continuing to use Steam on a windows 7 computer, I'm sure something will break eventually but it's still working. That said, trying to play games released now on an OS from 10+ years ago is hit and miss, games contemporary with the 7 or XP are reasonable but I expect soon it will be a matter of using standalone installers like the good old days. God bless GoG. And God curse Ubisoft, who have done the opposite and made old games unplayable on the operating systems they were released for (God bless those privateering seamen, who give away keys to treasure chests). Is using XP as an everyday computer really such a security risk? If its vulnerabilities are known wouldn't it be possible, at least in principle, to patch them or else provide it external security?

[@PliskinYT]

​@@thesenamesaretakenI thought Steam completely disabled access to windows 8 and lower in January

[@ducksongfans]

​@@PliskinYTofficially not actually

[@SL4RK]

Probably the most amazing thing about this is that windows xp is 23 years old, it's older than most of the subs.

[@Macko_z_Bogdanca]

Installed it today on my old win xp machine with intel core quad q9550 and I must say it is very impressive, every site I tried worked flawlessly

[@rustymixer2886]

Even youtube?

[@cedley1969]

Wonder what it runs like on 10...

[@sirjarko8762]

@@rustymixer2886 Yes, Providing your CPU is good and you have the Ram it runs like modern chrome, I have an XP machine and it ran flawlessly, That being said it was a quad core.

[@VaiCaDep0893]

@@cedley1969 It's still the same Chrome experience. I've tried this on Windows 10 and 11

[@VaiCaDep0893]

@@cedley1969 Though, for some reason, it doesn't launch on my Windows 10 LTSB 2015 VM

[@tohur]

The playback issues has nothing to do with the browser.. but everything to do with the system having a single core CPU

[@AnesuC]

60fps is significantly more demanding. I was actually surprised that it worked on 720p. I remember this in the early days being an issue, so I think it would have performed significantly better on a 30 or 24fps video. 720p 60fps is almost equivalent to 1440p on some devices in terms of demand in my experience.

[@JessicaFEREM]

Maybe you should try a project called Invidious where it's basically an alternative frontend to youtube and potentially runs it better than stock youtube would.

[@jcxtra]

Definitely agree! Stock youtube visibly chugs in firefox for me now no matter what I do (enable ublock/disable etc) like a webpage rendering from the 90s. Love Invidious, so clean tidy and customisable (you can make it very distraction free!)

[@weegeenumberone2]

​@@jcxtraIt is likely intentional. Run YT on Chrome or Edge, if it runs fine then it is intentional

[@DavidWonn]

Agreed 100%. It breathes life into my old iPad that ran out of space and is unable to download a current iOS to use the app anymore.

[@opfax163]

is it safe ?

[@EmirDesignNewbie]

I used it on my old Windows 8.1 dualboot OS :D

[@solanumtuberosa]

For 8.1 you can also use thorium

[@AntiGrieferGames]

​​@@solanumtuberosa Thorium isn't Good anymore.

[@m.projects]

@@AntiGrieferGamesIt is, at least to me. Why are you saying that?

[@artexjay]

​@@solanumtuberosa stop promoting trashware

[@artexjay]

@@m.projects dev was caught bundling furry porn and some even would say pedo hentai pics in the browser.

[@7U57HTJRYGHG]

only thing left to do is making a custom Steam install, we are returning functionality to these old OS goddamnit

[@Chris.123]

All of your videos are the best

[@robertschnobert9090]

MJD only has the best videos, but some of his videos are the BESTEST 🌈

[@HuzaBird0.2]

I'm Firefox user I not like chromium stuff

[@lollyhd1713]

Yeah but the Supermium dev is planning to do something like this for Firefox at the end of this year.

[@juser-abuser]

Gayfox is one of the browsers ever made.

[@HuzaBird0.2]

@@juser-abuser i not like just to evrythink is run by cromium...

[@AtanDoezzStuff]

As a chrome user I do not like Firefox stuff

[@axpuser671]

Supermium fakes the user agent as Windows NT 10.0 so we can see desktop pages.

[@caioramos5198]

nice to see you making a video out of it, currently using supermium 119 on my vista notebook and it works great

[@iXx4L]

Web pages keep crashing for me on vista does that happen to you?

[@caioramos5198]

@@iXx4L not at all, just some assets wont load, mostly emojis, but never had any crash

[@Stev417]

Dude I love the fact that your wall is covered in floppy disks! It looks SO COOL

[@That.One_Luke]

we need browsers like this for intel mac os versions like 10.4.11 and 10.5.x.. web browsing is impossible on intel 10.4.11 and 10.5.x and only powerPC cpu has the only working browsers.

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

We need Supermium on PPC Mac OS X 10.1 and up

[@93Volvo240]

I watched this on a Dell Inspiron E1505 from 2006. Its specs are as follows: 4GB RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo T7600, ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, OCZ Vertex 3(?) 120GB SSD, 1680x1050 LCD, and Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. Using Opera 95, I was able to stream this and most most other videos at 720p with minimal lagging. This laptop is currently my daily driver, despite having an 11th Gen i5 powered Lenovo within arms reach XD Thank you so much for making these videos as they have really helped me keep my old computers going! I can't wait to see whats next!

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

I'm watching this on a late-2009 MacBook with 8gb of ram, a Core 2 Duo p7330, geforce 9400m graphics, a 1280x800 display, a 500gb 7200RPM 2.5" hard drive(the ssd just died), and running 10.13 High Sierra.(I also have 10.7 Lion, and 10.9 Mavericks installed)

[@Vednier]

You know that, old pc is one thing, but to use OCZ Vertex...are you serious? Early SSD is not vintage, they just bad, controllers simply going nuts with bugs. You can easy switch to any modern TLC based SSD and it will be way better, even if NAND is technically worse.

[@93Volvo240]

@@Vednier I know, I used that drive because it’s what I had on hand, not to complete the “vintage” setup. So far, it’s been totally fine though. No errors, and it’s pretty fast,

[@Vednier]

@@93Volvo240Yes, i see, but problem with those early SSD is that they tends to just die suddenly, without any prior signs. This is, actually, problem with all SSD, but modern one at least try to show some warnings prior or go read-only on first internal problem. OCZ stuff was known to just "stop working". I would not use it for any even remotely valuable data. Its miracle its still alive, i heard of people literally changing them in months, as expendable. And one additional word about speed - probably not as fast as modern ones. Current SATA SSD already reached limits of SATA interface, some not without tricks, some by pure NAND speed.

[@93Volvo240]

@@Vednier I understand, but I don’t see a need to replace it right now. There is no important data on that computer whatsoever, so if the drive dies tomorrow, I’ll just replace it.

[@larrythethird4816]

You know what everytime michael making video with win xp, vista, and 7 it gives me a nostalgic feelings back to my childhood 😢

[@youssifmansour]

Thank you so much for these amazing videos, MJD! I love them. You are my top favorite KZbinr and I hope you continue uploading these fantastic videos ♥

[@cactus4944]

It's awesome to think that Windows XP released in 2001, and it still gets love from developers! I'll immediately install Supermium on my Windows XP machines!

[@UltimatePerfection]

Shouldn't it be called "XPrmium" or "Expermium"

[@StevenFail_Kuyashii]

Supermium is an awesome project for longevity

[@TheStarscouts]

This video released literally as I was installing Windows XP

[@gpubenchmarks7905]

Bass booster doesnt work

[@Clickificationist]

🤢 chromium

[@shatteringvista7208]

It already exist Firefox based for XP like new moon and old mypal but it's terrible slow at loading KZbin page, new mypal 68 is better but compatibility other pages start to not work anymore

[@thatoneguythatlikesship]

Are you stupid?

[@thenico28]

Cry

[@thatoneguythatlikesship]

Womp womp

[@vista9434]

I think this is also intended for Win7 and 8/8.1 as those OSes are also no longer supported by Chrome(ium)

[@Kiki79250CoC]

It is. The earliest releases of Supermium were mainly targeting W7 and 8.x, the full Vista support was added back in v118, then XP in v121. Windows 2000 is planned to arrive in a future release, just no date announced yet, let's hope around v125 as XP and 2000 are quite close in terms of features.

[@kings_pride]

I wish there would be a similar project based on firefox, but this is good aswell. finally up to date ssl certificates and modern rendering tech, so you can browse. video playback and youtube wouldnt even be neccessary. but is a good benchmark ;)

[@BULLIBULBUL]

i don't comment that often, because it needs a login.. i'm using open source software to watch youtube, so i'm sorry that you didn't get any money for it! (ads make me vomit! it's a waste of lifetime i never get back!) anyway, i love your channel and your content! especially videos about BeOS and HaikuOS.. because i had this systems back in the days! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPREADING THE WORD! keep up your work here on yt! and please let me know if i can support your channel in any way! all the best, stay healthy and please upload more content!

[@NIEDx86]

i am watching this video on XP using supermium my self!

[@homemadesuperstar796]

Mypal would like to know your location

[@imark7777777]

Now we just need an equivalent of firefox!

[@bertwest]

I installed it - it didn't work. Then I found out I couldn't uninstall it. I'd give this zero stars. Be forewarned. What a bad experience.

[@lbanting]

I'll have to give it a try on ReactOS.

[@SpinDlsc]

Legitimately helped me to get a web browser running on my good ol' Phenom 965 system running XP. Thanks, Michael!

[@just_joey]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@fbelard]

Is this vp9 or avc? Vp9 makes even recent machines struggle if they don't have hardware decoding. I install x264ify every time I use a friend's older windows computer. (Not a problem on macs, Safari does that automatically.)

[@HazewinDog]

KZbin actually introduced 480p in 2008, so perhaps it's not a surprise that it's a good match for a system that's also from 2008. I wonder how a 2010 system would handle 4K, as 4K was first introduced to KZbin in 2010 (it was called 'Original' quality at the time)

[@Rainquack]

I'd be curious which codecs it tries to decode, and always waited for you to display the stats. Maybe you'd have to block VP9, so it doesnt try to software decode - but I feel AVC also wouldn't have hardware acceleration, on hardware that old, wouldn't be as big of a processor load tho.