Michelle Duggar’s Shocking & Sick Method of “Training” Obedience into Kids

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Jim Bob & Michelle Duggar have children that are adults, that seem ill equipped to manage the real world & unable to cut ties with their parents. The control the parents have is due to the way they brought up their children. Michelle wrote about the "training" & "correction" in her book 20 Duggars & Counting. Learn about the practice & why no one should use this technique
Michael Pearls Book via web archive:
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20 Duggars & Counting:
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[@kimbere4632]

I find it ironic that they have consequences for bad behavior and yet they didn't let Josh sit in prison

[@TurkeyFarmerGirl]

Should of took that rod to him.

[@ovvierazones]

Josh is the golden child, or at least certainly was. first born sons are special within the cult... ofc he lived by different rules.

[@mel11956]

Where were Josh's consequences???

[@barrett7893]

Amen

[@cnsohm]

They were raising him to be the next patriarch. Patriarchs have to be "above approach."

[@tuesdaypatience]

They "trained" their daughters into the perfect victims for Josh and their future husbands. Obey, obey, obey. DO NOT THINK. It's SICK.

[@lauratoncel6232]

To be fair, they didn't do it with any of the older daughters who were actually the victims. Not even with joy.

[@tuesdaypatience]

@@lauratoncel6232 They may not have done the “blanket training” with the first nine kids, but Michelle said she began doing the “older child training” laid out in Pearle’s book with ALL the kids after she discovered infant training for Jed and Jeremiah when they were about 18 months old. They twins were born in Dec 1998, which would have put Michelle and Jim Bob’s discovery of “To Train Up A Child” around mid-2000. The girls would have been: Jana, 10; Jill, 9; Jesse 7.5; Jinger, 6.5; and Joy, 2.5 years old. Even if “Mommy and Daddy” never tried to train the “child” out of their children before that time, we know Josh admitted to molesting the girls around 2002/03 - giving ample time to have turned their girls into sweet little guilt-ridden potential victims. However, I do believe Ma & Pa had raised those kids with the whole “complete obedience with a smile” from the start, especially with their girls...they just didn’t have the guide book before that.

[@rosannecole4992]

Daughters lived in fear and were given adult duties growing up cooking , childcare , maintenance of their home..!

[@paulaharlfinger829]

I JUST said the same thing! You know, it is so important to teach your children to THINK and to QUESTION, NOT to react blindly. Those poor little children were completely vulnerable to Josh and he KNEW that! So upsetting.

[@paulaharlfinger829]

@@lauratoncel6232 , yes, they used other methods. But, still, their goal was to achieve BLIND OBEDIENCE.

[@mississippimud7046]

A blanket has always been a source of comfort in my home NOT PUNISHMENT

[@yadayadayada9335]

Let's be real and call blanket training what it is a very lazy parent. If you're going to depend on a blanket to do your job that's fine but at least have someone else disipline the child so the child doesn't grow up all twisted. As parents we're suppose to bring our children up not set them back. What would you learn from sitting on a blanket as a toddler? How about invest in a play pen so the child can play with some toys in a safe place.

[@gloriawelch3603]

Absolutely

[@anneshields2010]

Same here something to snuggle into and keep you warm I love my fleecy blanket on my bed or when I’m on the sofa and my friends toddler daughter loves her blanket and it goes everywhere with her

[@Raztiana]

Or just something you put under the child to make them more comfortable, while they are playing on the floor. Mine was very colourful with animals. My parents has a blanket with roads on it, so their grandchildren can play with cars on it.

[@Rissie3q1]

@@Raztiana I agree, my daughter had a flower blanket and my son has a worn Spider-Man throw blanket that we use as playmat. My daughter now uses hers as a snuggle blanket.

[@SueP-D]

Just a thought: When you have to jail your kids on a blanket and smack them if they crawl off the blanket so you can attend to your other kids, you MIGHT have too many children. 🤔

[@Ellietalk81]

One would think! Incredible that they thought smacking a baby or a toddler would be better than stop having more children. Unreal!

[@SueP-D]

@@Ellietalk81 I can’t IMAGINE pushing out NINETEEN kids omg 😆

[@showcrazy2139]

@@SueP-D I have three kids, and knowing all it takes to get your body totally healed after each pregnancy, I can't even begin to wonder how these people think it's a good idea to put women through constant pregnancy. I'm not just talking about fitness, I'm talking about hormones going back to normal, your lungs not being squashed up into a weird position, mental health, immune response, bone density, blood volume, etc etc. We are entirely different animals when we are pregnant, and it is not a good idea to spend most of your adult life in that state.

[@SueP-D]

@@showcrazy2139 I agree with that! Even if we work out during pregnancy, take care of ourselves, eat right, etc., it is STILL a MAJOR toll on the body! And these groups expect their women to stay skinny in between all these multiple births 😡. It is very antiquated the way these women are treated, imo. And now we’re seeing Anna, having her 7th child in 12 years with Josh the pervy felon. She’ll probably be expected to stand by her man for the 20 years he’ll be spending in prison, because I honestly believe she doesn’t see any other way to handle it. I’m all for keeping the family together, but damn! There are deal breakers and Josh committed several.

[@jlcollins7673]

There are people who have ONE child that use this method of child training. So...no. this has nothing to do with how many children they have.

[@joycowley3141]

I am a retired nurse and first responder. Life long resident of Arkansas. That bunch has always been nuts. No doubt!

[@saltlifegull4091]

AWESOME!

[@rosannecole4992]

Jim Bob " has made millions from his kids on TLC gave them nothing back except strick rules !

[@natsadowski8629]

I feel like Michelle was very careful with her words in this book and I think that just means that she knows that if she said what She was REALLY doing to her kids she would be in a looot of trouble

[@jlcollins7673]

Yeeeeesss!!! Correction...."loving correction".....

[@lacey892]

Most people who hit their children have 'cutesy' words like this to describe it. "pow pows" "pops" "correction" or whatever you wanna call it... No one wants to call corporal/punitive punishment what it is.

[@margaretmunce1501]

See the look on Jim Bob’s face at the beginning of the video? He’s biting his lip, and looking at her intensely. Like he’s told her what to say, and frightened she’ll slip up. 😠

[@sharonproctor4079]

Watching Jill as a teenager and now as a wife and mother, she has come a long way. She talked with trained comments not her own words and oblivious to the real world. Now she is acting and talking much more normal now that she has distanced herself from the clan.

[@MountainPearls]

I’m so glad she got away! I pray all of them do (especially the girls). Although, I do wonder if John David/Abbie MAY be separating himself/themselves from the family and *maybe* Josiah, too. (I imagine Lauren will go along with it). Mostly I hope Jinger can get out to get mental health! I have a feeling she really needs it for anxiety and possibly PPD/PPA!

[@lindageorge6174]

I wonder if Michelle respects that her kids might raise their children different, and not do blanket training because they think it's barbaric? I would think that this is one of the things the Duggar kids hated most about their childhood, because of the fear and stress it caused in them! I think this is probably why they're all so devoid of any spontaneous emotion, because it's trained right out of them! Look at the pictures Katie is showing of Michelle's face when she's talking about blanket training, she looks deranged, they're scary AF! Imagine that face coming at you shaking her finger, when they know she's pissed off, and getting ready to smack them, a toddler has the attention span and the the memory span of a gnat! Their little mind can't even imagine what they did wrong to make their Mom so mad! Does she think they logically say to themselves, oh yeah, she's mad because I'm laughing to loud and having fun, or I threw my toy off the blanket and crawled to get it, or I stretched my legs and my feet are off the blanket, Get real! Toddlers live in the moment, all she's doing is making them live in fear, and making them too paranoid to move because they don't know what they're doing to piss her off so much that she keeps hitting them! It's sadistic, she sounds like my psycho father, who thinks you Should fall.asleep within 30 seconds of going to bed, who would come flying in the room and snap a belt, and smack you with if he heard you laughing, or talking to your sisters! You can tell Jessa doesn't use blanket training! And if Grandma Lolly is babysitting,and her kids don't use that form of discipline, then she should be respectful and not use it on the Grandkids either! That would piss me off if somebody hit my kid and I didn't do that kind of discipline! But because Michelle demands disciplined children, She would go crazy if she had to babysit for Ivy for a weekend! Because Ivy is very whiny and has to have her own way all the time! Jessa raises her boys much different than she does Ivy! Ivy gets her way all the time, I don't know if that's because she pitches a fit longer, or what Jessa's logics is, but just go back and watch any video with Ivy in it, she just starts bouncing up and down and whining and crying, and Jessa gives her whatever she wants! It has nothing to do with age either! When it was spurgeon's birthday and Henry went to grab his presents out of excitment, like when he grabbed spurgeon's bag of candy, Jessa said no Henry, that's Spurgeon candy it's his birthday! And Henry respectably put it down, or when he grabbed for another one of spurgeon's presents, Jessa again said politely, Henry it's Spurgeon birthday, those are his presents, and Henry respectfully put It down! When it was Henry's birthday, Ivy would bounce up and down, and whine and scream, mine mine, and she got to have all of his presents before he got to have them! She saw his candy and said my Candy my candy, and held it tight and she wouldn't let go of it! When Jessa tried to get it back, she screamed her head off, my candy, my candy, when Henry got his candy back, he stopped opening his presents when Jessa said aww Sis you want some candy, Henry opened his candy and said Ivy can have three pieces, and Spurgeon can have three pieces! Then Henry opened his shoes and she grabbed them, and said my shoes and put them on, and Jessa said, sis you like Henry's shoes, and she is smiling so content that she got her way again! And then Henry opened his sunglasses that were just like Daddy's, and she had to put them on, my glasses my glasses! Then Henry opened his bow and arrows, he had two one for him and one for Spurgeon, then she really screamed her head off, and Jessa said to Ben, oh I should have gotten three of them! Ivy doesn't even have the strength to play that game! She doesn't need everything she screams for, Jessa is training her to be a monster, that has to have everything her way, and if she doesn't get it fast enough, she screams and whines for it! And Jessa going to pay hell when that new baby comes, and Ivy is whining and making demands for everything, When Jessa is trying to feed the Baby, or trying to do anything to take care care of the Baby! Every time Henry gave up his presents to Ivy Jessa would say Henry you're a good Brother for sharing with your Sister! I don't think Henry felt like he had a choice, because Henry never protested once, or got an attitude about not getting to have any of his own birthday presents first, I think the boys are programmed to give her everything she whines and cries for, in the name of sharing! They're very polite Boy's! It wasn't just the birthday thing! I noticed in every video when she whines she gets whatever she wants! Jessa never directs her and says, use your words Ivy, she just hands her, or gets her what ever she wants! And Ben just ignores it all!

[@jessicaa.6690]

@@lindageorge6174 yes, they are going to have problems with Ivy. But who is Spurgeon? A sibling or friend? & who would name their kid that?! Ouch.

[@margaretmunce1501]

@@jessicaa.6690 Spurgeon is Jessa & Ben’s eldest son.

[@savanna1980]

@@jessicaa.6690 he's named after a Christian evangelist/author Charles Spurgeon. And Henry's middle name is Wilberforce! (After Sir William) I can't decide which is worse. Ivy got off easy!

[@agodlyhome]

I think we all need to be careful after watching this to not assume everyone who puts their baby on a blanket is blanket training! I was taught by my grandmother and mother that when you put a baby down to play on the floor, you spread a blanket out first in order to give them a nice clean comfortable place to play. A lot of toddlers enjoy playing on a blanket without any training to stay!

[@armildageorge169]

I agree. I always put a blanket down when my kid's were babies just to give them a comfortable place to play and in our case we have hardwood floors so the blanket was a lot warmer than the floor. This is the first I have heard of blanket training.

[@janicewhaley3177]

I always put a blanket on the floor for the ba bies to play on. From my children, grandchildren and now great grandchildren. Never has been a punishment or training. I had never even heard of this.

[@alepryor]

I came to the comments to say the same thing, I always put a blanket down to give them a place to play and I had never heard of blanket training until about a week ago when I was doing some reading about the Duggars

[@joannahaburjak2267]

@@alepryor b C

[@missy5656]

I think everybody has put their baby on a blanket to play.playing on a blanket and blanket training are totally different

[@paulaharlfinger829]

It is no wonder that the younger children were so vulnerable to Josh. They were trained to be victims, quiet victims.

[@lizziedssg8643]

You’re right. And the part about resolving problems “without involving mommy and daddy” no doubt taught them to NOT tell the parents when they were being violated by golden boy Josh.

[@wendykernvalleyvintagejewe1165]

Crying! So sad!!!

[@jlcollins7673]

My mom had this book on her night stand. You can imagine what a nightmare my childhood was. Not only does the book talk about blanket training. They talk about tempting your child with something they are not supposed to do....for example....setting a crawling infant at the bottom of a staircase. When the crawling infant started to crawl up the stairs, they would slap them with the plastic pvc pipe. (They also make sure to suggest slapping them on the back of the thigh, because they need to feel it and that spot is the least likely to leave any marks) Debbie Pearl actually carried the pvc pipe in her purse everywhere with her. And after so many times of training...all she had to do was open her purse and show the child the pipe...and they would be terrified to the point of submission and blind obedience. They also suggest withholding food as a form of correction. There are several stories of parents (and foster parents) who have used this form of correction and it resulted in the child DYING....from malnourishment!!!!! Google it if you can handle your heart being ripped out of your throat. This book is about absolutely breaking the spirit in your child before they ever learn they have one. Which is ironic, since they believe that God doesn't make mistakes and every child is PERFECT in His eyes. So they were created with a strong spirit....but a parent needs to train them to be completely broken. They believe they are teaching their child about self control. When actually they are teaching them that they need to be completely and wholly submissive.....and it results in adults not being able to make grown up decisions and always needing outside influences in order to function. Once a child has been raised like this...without proper therapy, they will often spend the rest of their life seeking out partners and friends who exist to control everyone in their lives.... They will never find a healthy balance and will spend their lives trying to please everyone around them. They will never be confident in ANY decision they are making...they will constantly second guess themselves.... They will never understand their intuition or their desire to speak out or speak up about something they feel strongly about. Their internal voice will have been hushed so often that they lose the ability to hear it...or even recognize that it exists. It is absolutely puke worthy.

[@Hoodoo123]

👏👏👏brilliant, exactly.

[@candyskinner6710]

You described me very well and my mom didn’t have the book. Not a healthy experience/existence.

[@rufusdusol9453]

You are putting a spin on everything just like Katie. I encourage you all to read the whole book along with a Bible. It's not like you are saying it is. I used to have that book and I read it.

[@jlcollins7673]

@@rufusdusol9453 I am not putting any spin on it. But thanks for the commentary. (Side note....I will Bible scripture fight you all day long. It is how I was raised. So get off of the self righteous fuckin horse you're on)

[@rufusdusol9453]

Saudade73 I will not fight about Gods Word, it’s not my righteousness but Gods. I will vouch for the Parents, Josh may be evil but his parents are not.

[@thesweetestbear]

Jim Bob looks so scary, he looks like he's watching her every word so closely

[@mariakeil349]

I agree!! He looks at her like you better not say anything wrong

[@angelface6958]

Plot twist: What if Michelle is just as traumatized and brainwashed as the kids? I’m mean, he’s said he chose her because he knew he could mold her, right?

[@adelinedevol2642]

Jim Bob bothers the heck out of me! I can't watch the show because it triggers me

[@thesweetestbear]

@@angelface6958 she totally is, its hillarious that she acts like she was such a bad person before she met him yet all she did was wear shorts and kiss a guy, like ohh no she was a normal teenager how dare she lol

[@grammylisa1]

@@adelinedevol2642 Same here!!! He’s thinks he’s above women. He’s sick!

[@justuslightworkers]

I don't remember if it was in Perls book or elsewhere, that part of the training was to actually lure the child off the blanket with their toy, and when they got off of it, to "correct" them. Now THAT is some sick business!

[@vickiegray690]

Now that’s just screwed up. 😤🤬

[@janettemanderson7304]

Yes, it is in the Pearls' book. They are obsessed with obedience, even from little babies too little to understand what their parents want.

[@vickiegray690]

@@janettemanderson7304 ♥️♥️♥️

[@ronaldkrueger8247]

I remember that too. The baby was so young and just reaching for toys and got smacked for exploring. Sick.

[@jasminemarie6912]

Reminds me of Brave New World

[@valeriefiorentino925]

Soooo the thing with blanket training...has she never heard of a pack n play? Put the babies in a pack n play if you need them to stay in one place while you are doing something else. Wtf

[@ovvierazones]

actually, the babies don't have proper cribs but all sleep in pack n plays/playpens for the first years of their lives, so yes, they have them but I guess just use them as beds only.

[@ashleyw6160]

I'd use a high chair too...give them some cheerios & a drink or something & they're fine

[@dianneschuman6328]

Blanket training is done to 'train' indoctrinate children from infancy that they MUST obey. It is a power move not to keep children safe. Those who use it try to soft sell it as good parenting as opposed to raising kids who obey without questioning

[@brendalane4228]

@@dianneschuman6328 sounds more like communist brainwashing to me. Wonder if Jim Boob and Michelle are fans of Russia, North Korea, China, Hitler etc.? Sure sounds like similar techniques. Breaking a child's will is horrendous, and I speak from experience.

[@melz6625]

@@brendalane4228 dude you just said the dumbest thing ever. Please be quiet if what comes out of your mouth when you speak out loud is so dumb it physically pained me to read. I have a Master’s degree in Politics and about every word you put in an order is wrong and in context absolutely idiotic. This is so embarrassing for your life.

[@jacquenewton9279]

Sadistic is the same word that came to me. Makes me shudder at the thought. I am a mother, a grandmother and retired teacher. NEVER have I had to use something like this to discipline. There are other ways to teach.

[@atmoney4206]

I was in a very abusive relationship for way too long a few years ago so while I was watching this and listening to what Michelle was saying about walking out of sight solely to catch one of them crawling off the blanket sounds more to me like something my narcissistic ex would do. He would send me on a ridiculous errand that needed to be completed in an unreasonable amount of time. Of course I would fail because it was impossible to do what he asked of me. Then well let’s just say he had his own version of blanket time for me. Long story short I’m having a hard time differentiating between the two. That in itself scary thought!

[@lorismith9403]

Did you have a consequences if your students didn't stay in their seats? I think this is truly the point. If people don't want to spank, whatever. But it is one of our jobs to teach these little ones that there are consequences for actions.

[@1161Linda]

Such a cruel thing for innocent children to go through. I cannot imagine the fear these children and other children feel going through this. This makes me so angry!

[@traciwhiting2545]

This must be why Josh failed to learn self control! He missed the blanket training.

[@karleepeterson9358]

😂😂😂

[@kccfanpage1348]

Josh is the proof of their screwed up parenting

[@pjaypender1009]

No, Josh learned that children can't say no. They have to comply with what they're told. They have to obey so they're easy to exploit. This is why you should never, ever teach your kids to obey without question.

[@johnhart1671]

@April West That was total bullshit, and as if he was justifying it, what a sicko!

[@kidscats3952]

@@pjaypender1009 I disagree. There are times you need a child to instantly obey. If a child is in immediate danger. For instance, a 3 to 5 year old running towards a street and you can't catch them, if they are taught to STOP when they hear you they won't be hurt. Even the most well behaved kids have times when they are just caught up in actions and don't realize danger. I do not advocate corporal punishment but rewards for listening.

[@KF-cx8bm]

So the children pay a price because she had so many children she cannot give each one the time they need. It was her choice to homeschool she should have thought how she could possibly do this with such a big family. Michelle really is a ridiculous woman

[@rosannecole4992]

Indeed ! Duggar chidren growing up had to schedule appointments to talk to their mom Michelle! !

[@margaretmunce1501]

@@rosannecole4992 wow, that is so absolutely tragic. Makes me sad to think how they’d feel that they’re not important enough to come to her whenever. So glad my mother and father only had five of us, and did a great job of raising us right.

[@gloriawelch3603]

For all their talk of the 'work' put into their family, she was a lazy cow. Having child after child so they could tend the house and younger children.

[@barrett7893]

Amen to that.. That is a complete honesty. Soon as they’re done weaning Michelle passes off her children to her oldest children. So they really don’t get to bond with her mother. They bond with there sisters.. it’s so sad..

[@magickba115]

This is likely why Jill is the outcast now. She is no longer blindly following her parents after getting licensed counseling/therapy. It would explain why she isn't allowed around the other kids as well, because lord forbid she teach them to wonder why their parents ask them to do these types of things. I hope she, or one of the kids, eventually airs it all out because it could help stop these types of practices in the fundie circles in the future.

[@loriyoungersouchik]

When I had my son 18 years ago this August I was gifted that book by the leaders of my church home group. I hadn't heard about it before that. Everyone in our home group were young couples and we all had our first babies within a year or so of each other. I'll never forget going home to read it and crying while doing so. It sounded so crazy, all of it. They (the other couples) all followed it, we didn't and ended up leaving the group.

[@laurad324]

That’s horrific

[@Elizabeth-xf7yu]

They give it a cute name like "blanket time" when it is really a time of terror for the child. This is sick.

[@janetturner1931]

That sounds terrible, still not sure what it is. I guess I should google this term?

[@janettemanderson7304]

@@janetturner1931 They generally start when baby is six months old. If baby moves off the blanket, they hit the baby and say "No!". The Pearls even put enticing toys just out of baby's reach, and when the baby crawls or scoots off the blanket, they "whip" the baby and say, "No!" They describe whipping their little toddlers continuously for 45 minutes until they break their will. That is how one couple murdered the daughter they had adopted from Africa. Google Lydia Schatz---then warn others. I think for sure Joy and Austin do the Pearl training with their little ones since his parents feature the Pearls at their camps. I would guess Jessa does, too, since she is so stern. Since Jeremy is Calvinist/Reform, they probably do it too. I feel heartsick whenever one of them has a baby.

[@arigirl4536]

@@janettemanderson7304 Sadistic! Who hits a 6 month old baby??? Sick, sick, sick!

[@cjillwrite8249]

This is so against maternal instinct. A mother who does this is sadistic. It goes against their developmental capabilities and creates faulty logical reasoning.

[@taryncornelius548]

Michelle has no maternal instincts she only cared about breeding a huge family not caring for them as individuals

[@amandamartin7020]

Anyone else wonder y Michelle seems to only participate in the creepier parts of parenting the rest is left up to the buddy

[@wolfyngrey1313]

At least she didn’t make the girls do those things

[@ninawest8]

It is NEVER EVER okay to infict pain to a baby or toddler/ child. Imagine how scary that is fir a big huge human who you love and come to for protection and then they hurt you...WTF is wrong with those people. IT'S JUST BEING A BIG BULLY. The strong picking on the weak.

[@aturtlethatisred]

My mom spanked me and did holding time. It doesn’t freaking matter if it is “out of love” or not. It is traumatic and makes you afraid of your mom/parents. It isn’t a good way to discipline and made me think hitting my sister was ok. 😞

[@yadayadayada9335]

@@aturtlethatisred That's the problem right there, we're suppose to fear our parents out of respect! I don't mean fear our parents 100% of the time, but just when you're about to do something you're not suppose to be doing!

[@mel11956]

My thought exactly. A big bully taking it out on a toddler or baby.

[@rosannecole4992]

Jim bob " dosent believe in paying for babysitters ! Guess its ok to take your kids money though..Children raising newborns while Michelle wrote books and went on talk shows about she is such a great role model mother and parent..

[@ariellecabrera2796]

@catonic exactly! So true.

[@raizinboyz]

I was born in 1964 and I first became a mom in 1993. I remember reading my mom's "instruction manual" she was sent home with from the hospital and it went up to about age 4 or 5 I think. I thought THAT was horrible, but this is SO much worse!!! Honestly, I am horrified!!!

[@ciaraf4158]

It’s amazing before Michelle met Jim Bob she was a very normal person

[@themissingink444]

Something had to be missing in her life for her to stay once she realized how authoritative JB was.

[@ciaraf4158]

@@themissingink444 I agree with you there. I kinda blame her parents for letting her marry him at 17. I feel like if she would have never met him her life would be different

[@deeanna8448]

@@ciaraf4158 I don't think you can really stop a 17 year old from marrying. If your forbid it, you'll be push them away. My sister moved out and went to live with her boyfriend at 17. My dad called the police and wanted to make her come home. The police said they did not recommend it because it would destroy their relationship.

[@babyyoda5645]

@@ciaraf4158 not really her other kids had normal life . She a have a niece who is normal .. and don’t have 40 kids

[@AlexisTwoLastNames]

@@deeanna8448 i’m sorry what.

[@meggalaxy]

Even on a dog this would be considered super abusive 🤦🏼‍♀️ wtf with these people

[@aspenalyselong]

Arkansan here 🙋🏼‍♀️ police and DHS do not take it seriously. If you call yourself or call about someone else they ask, ‘well are you obeying your parents? You need to obey.’

[@cathrinefrydenlund3180]

Oh, my god. That's so sad. Corporal punishment is illegal in Norway, as it should be. If you need to resort to violence to handle your own children, it might be the time to also question your abilities as parents and to reach out for help.

[@xKellogsx]

wow imagine that, obeying your parents!!! what a sick world.

[@michellewenger8639]

That sounds sick. And Michelle dugger is nuts.

[@jennifercousins141]

In Ireland it is illegal to slap your child full stop. These duggars wouldn't last a minute here!

[@TheSaltySiren]

It’s illegal here in California, too! I’m shocked that it is ok in Arkansas.

[@bubbles7398]

@@TheSaltySiren Actually every single state in the US allows you to hit a child. Most can’t leave a mark or can’t leave a mark after a specified amount of time and can’t be considered excessive for the situation. California law allows for you to hit your child as long as no mark is left. You can find it right on the states website.

[@TheSaltySiren]

@@bubbles7398 you’re correct. I was thinking about Jennifer’s description of “slap your child full stop”. I was thinking that “full stop” would leave a mark. 👍🏻 I hate that any kid has to go through this. 😢

[@xKellogsx]

@@TheSaltySiren full stop means 'period' in the UK. smh

[@maggiemae1487]

They never heard of play pens? They actually seem easier for the parents, and much kinder for the little ones.

[@staciesheppard2048]

That would require picking them up

[@smittykins]

In their book, Michelle refers to the blanket as a “playpen in a purse.” Because she can’t be bothered to carry a playpen anywhere.

[@xKellogsx]

yeah funny thing though, play pens dont teach obedience.

[@MrsReggieRegg]

There's no way I believe that Michelle always keeps her cool and never raises her voice or yells at her children or her husband.

[@vickiegray690]

Blanket time for my children probably meant that they fell asleep at someone else’s house. The blanket would have been put somewhere comfortable and safe and when they awoke they were picked up and cuddled and loved. Because their time on the blanket was probably to sleep or play and my children were always picked up with enthusiasm and love.

[@janinemaxwell4297]

That was the same with my kids it was used to keep them comfortable while they sleep

[@Rissie3q1]

Blanket time for my kids has 2 meanings For my baby: it is tummy time and/or play on the floor time. We use a throw blanket as a play-mat. We have dogs and I am a little paranoid. I’d rather put my baby on a blanket that can be washed easily than to have them on the floor that gets mopped once a day. That and a blanket is softer than hardwood and extremely portable. For my 5 year old : blanket time is snuggle on couch or in bed time

[@Catglittercrafts]

The way that Michelle describes obedience training sounds exactly like mind control.

[@tiffprendergast]

It is!

[@Catglittercrafts]

@@tiffprendergast it’s scary

[@mel11956]

Yes, it does. Good old brainwashing and mind control.

[@isabellavalencia8026]

Yes it is...abussive control.and striking a baby?she is a nut!

[@kellyegan7348]

She never had any bonding time with those kids. She was always pregnant and popping out babies. That training is bizarre and cruel. Bless your heart with keeping up with this train wreck of a family.

[@suziephillips2320]

Michelle's own words, "We love our kids unconditionally." So I guess not loving Jill unconditionally was an error??

[@perfectlyimperfect2368]

It's also dangerous to teach children to obey without thought to authority figures because they could EASILY be taken advantage of!

[@naomievlahogeorge7958]

^^^ This without a doubt

[@La_Ru-yg8es]

My kids have been taught from a young age to question authority. Kids are smart; they know when to go with the program and when to speak up for themselves. It's all part of what they learn by spending time and communicating with their parents, and being encouraged to relish their curiosity. Critical thinking is taught this way.

[@perfectlyimperfect2368]

@@La_Ru-yg8es agree with everything you said! My mind goes to scary places when I think of kids being told to follow orders without hesitation. And how they not only can quickly become victims of something terrible,but also afraid to speak up about what happened for fear of futher consequences. And now with everything coming out about Josh following his arrest,I can't help but wonder how he used/uses his authority over his siblings and children! Makes me sick!

[@magdlynstrouble2036]

This happened to the Mormon teenager Elizabeth Smart in 2002. She was taught by the LDS patriarchy to be unquestioningly obedient, which allowed her kidnapper/captor to keep her in line out in public for 9 months, although she was being raped and abused daily. It was all over the news at the time. Look it up.

[@RazedParadise]

Look up the Milgram Experiment. It's an interesting piece about obedience in adults.

[@Purpletoes]

This is so disturbing to me, I was smacked as a child, it is so confusing, your parent tells you to keep your hands to yourself and then they hit you, where is the lesson in that for a child? We taught our child through time out and clear communication with him. Treat others how you would like them to treat you, its not that complicated Shelly and Jim.

[@katebattista7400]

And it does nothing to prep them for adulthood. Rational, law-abiding adults don't hit each other to get their way. We discuss conflict with each other and escalate when needed to designated authority figures (cops, managers)....or send passive aggressive emails to the all staff email list ;)

[@sslpn1111]

When I was a child and got into trouble, my dad would take his belt off and use it on me, making sure he hit me with the buckle. In the late 70s and 80s, this was acceptable behavior. I look back on it now and I realize I was abused.

[@brendalane4228]

@@sslpn1111 My mother did the same and worse to me. It is a hard road to travel to get to forgiveness.

[@sslpn1111]

@@brendalane4228 so sorry

[@brendalane4228]

@@sslpn1111 thank you.

[@wynnkidsnannylorivance4111]

I'm a nurse. I am also a family therapist in training. I do not recommend blanket training. Nor do I approve the use. I do not recommend anything to families by the Pearls. Michael Pearl is abusive.

[@lovesanimalshatesrats6339]

Just out of curiosity, have you yourself ever heard of a nurse or a family therapist recommend blanket training?

[@wynnkidsnannylorivance4111]

@@lovesanimalshatesrats6339 I have been in school to become a family therapist for 12 years, I have NEVER heard it advocated outside of the Fundamentalist patriarchy culture. And I used to be in that culture. I heard doctors and nurses within that culture advocate for physical correction. But never once in the real world, at educational institutions not beholden to the culture, these forms of discipline are not advocated for.

[@wynnkidsnannylorivance4111]

@@lovesanimalshatesrats6339 one of my issues with blanket training is the cancellation of boundaries. We need structure as children, but we also need to protect ourselves from inappropriate boundary crossings, like sexual abuse. Complete and immediate obedience was taught by my Christian parents without teaching loss of the self or one's own identity. Blanket training sends a message to a child that you do what you are told by the older person, regardless of what it is. The parent entices the child with a favorite toy to come off the blanket then hits them when they do. This is how hostages are broken down.

[@christiejensen1606]

Right on

[@lovesanimalshatesrats6339]

@@wynnkidsnannylorivance4111 thank you so much for your reply! Wow you were a part of that culture? I’d love to hear your story! But that’s a lot to ask I realize. And yes by you saying as a nurse you’d never recommend blanket training I was worried it was something some nurses do! I don’t have children of my own, I have never even held a baby, but children are such dear, sweet things I could never imagine raising a hand to one in the worst situation, let alone for tossing a sole toy off a blanket. But it’s funny, I have an extraordinary memory of being a small child, even a baby in diapers in a high chair, and being made to play with one toy alone and that’s it would be next to unbearable. Sorry to rant I have no one to chat with ☺️

[@beckamax74]

Yelling at your child can be as emotionally traumatizing as physical violence depending on the child and how sensitive to yelling they are. My oldest daughter has been traumatized by her dad yelling and screaming at her. She 16 & still breaks down in tears if a male yells at her.

[@larissatom6910]

Same, and I’m 50.

[@tawnie9204]

Me too.

[@AB-mx1de]

Absolutely. I can relate.

[@showcrazy2139]

I am the same...and my husband wasn' t a yeller, but since my kids lost their dad when he was young, their fight or flight kicks in and they freak out if they hear a guy yell. My dad and step dad were both loud, mean and scary guys, and I respond the same.

[@Jazzyjen1997]

Yes I agree!!! I don’t have a relationship with my father because I was never allowed to have my own opinion around him and was yelled at by the stupidest things. He always thinks he’s right and doesn’t listen to anyone else except his “friends” who are on his side.

[@amyburwell5005]

I wonder what Supernanny would think about this...lol

[@lauren.g5382]

Hahaha good one I was thinking the same

[@jessicag450]

This is flat out abuse and they are horrible people. This makes me so sick. I would never do this to anybody.

[@moonstonevenom1543]

All this book is teaching other parents is how to get disowned and put in a nursing home 101. There! I said it!

[@kristywebb3471]

These people are sick, no wonder the kids are getting married as quickly as they are.

[@janettemanderson7304]

I wonder how many more will renounce JB and M when they are finally free financially.

[@johnhart1671]

@@janettemanderson7304 im guessing all of them

[@abbywalker8041]

I absolutely HATE that they use the terms “obedience” and “training” to describe how they parent their children. It makes them sound like they’re training dogs!! Children need love and guidance, not obedience training!! Makes me want to puke!!🤮

[@bradleydavis5744]

Exactly right,I couldn't put it better myself

[@sharonproctor4079]

No I treat my dogs way better. In obedience training for dogs they use a gentile tug on the leash. NO hitting with a stick.

[@kristinasullivan9436]

Pearl often compares children to mules and horses. Smh

[@adelinedevol2642]

Thank you that is what I was thinking about

[@1whitkat]

Any good dog trainer will tell you, never hit an animal. These people aren't even worthy of training dogs.

[@jessicacopland7382]

"If we have to get involved" GASP you mean like a parent does??

[@sara31773]

Doesn’t it seem like a lot of this stuff is left out of their tv series? Modest dress and jurisdictions is their main message.

[@katebattista7400]

I think TLC has done a lot of coaching about what will fly on mainstream TV and what won't.

[@scrappaperart]

How can anyone say that wearing tight fitting tee shirts constitute modest dressing when it accentuates the top portion of the body and that's where a guys eyes gravitate to. None of them including the DILs are not tiny. I'm not attacking your statement just pointing out that modest dressing doesn't include tight fitting shirts.

[@sara31773]

@@scrappaperart I don’t make the crazy ass rules. They do.

[@scrappaperart]

@@sara31773 my comment wasn't addressed at you at was just a statement of opinion just as yours was.

[@stephanielu7694]

I went to a church once, I had 2 littles ones at the time (2 and infant). A lady came to me one day with a blanket she had bought me and tried to tell me I needed to blanket train my kids, that she did it, and knows other women that did/do it. I told her no and that I don't care who does it and I don't care if I'm not doing what all the other moms are doing. Another Mom at the church had her baby on a blanket. Baby was about 6 months. She explained how the baby is NEVER allowed of the blanket. That the baby has to see moving about as a privilege. So the baby spent all day every day on a blanket. Never being allowed to crawl or explore her world. Also, she told me that when training them you try to temp them to get off their blanket. And it they do you spank them. A BABY!! The most heart breaking way she would temp her baby is she would get down on the ground hold out her hands toward the baby and say "come here! Come to Mommy!" The baby would get all happy thing her mommy wants to hold her and the moment she would start scooting toward her mom thinking she was going to be held and loved on by her mommy, she would instead get spanked on the bare thighs. I was a young new mom, and even I saw it a messed up, cruel and damaging. I never fit in at that church or with the other moms. I now go to a wonderful church where their isn't blanket training. Just kids exploring their world, engaging with life and people and openingly expressing themselves

[@bethp3320]

So what I’ve taken away from this is, they can’t be bothered to deal with toddlers so they put them on a blanket where they can’t move & make a noice. That’s very bad.

[@MeganSaidThis]

The thing is, I feel like this method would take more time anyways, that's what's puzzling. A pack n play or baby gates would be easier for someone lazy like Michelle... so IDK. It's puzzling. I mean most parents who are neglectful and lazy sadly would ignore their kids not do this method, IMO.

[@crisnielson]

I read about a woman who had a set of twins after 3-4 other children. The older children were well behaved but this mom really wanted to sing in her church choir. So when the twins were toddlers she did similar training BUT all from the positive side. She started with them on her lap reading to them for 5 min. She introduced a toy later and stretched out the sitting time. They were always rewarded for sitting after each time. Never a punishment or negative in any way, always loving and positive. It worked, as they learned to sit and play quietly, over time Mom was able to sing in the choir.

[@sabrinaleedance]

I can't even handle saying "No! Danger!" In a serious tone to my toddler and he gets sad. Wtf is wrong w these people

[@xKellogsx]

you better hope he obeys when you do!

[@paulahogan5404]

You know how kids mimick their parents. Like a child with a doll...Im interested to know if the children played "blanket time" with their siblings and used a form of correction on them.

[@kylietrautm]

My mom literally loves both the Duggar books and Train up a Child. I am a young adult now trying to work through everything. My parents have 7 daughters and they instill fear in us if we make any decision they don’t agree with. My young teenage sisters are literally terrified of upsetting my parents. They will call them and to ask permission to have a piece of gum. When I met my husband, my parents literally kicked me out of the house overnight and refused to talk to my boyfriend until about 1 month before our wedding. It is so hard to be betrayed by your own family like that.

[@TurkeyFarmerGirl]

As a Christian and a homesteader, we baby proofed our home. Gates, cabinet locks. Ect. My son was free range. We both stay at home parents. He went all over our trailer. He left our sight, then he came right back. I would never hit him for learning on his own. He is almost 5 now. Very independent, very smart. He loves doing crafts with hot glue, he is trusted with scissors, he helps butcher meat. He helps me split and stack wood. I took the time to supervise and help so he could try all this. How do they learn to get up and down stairs if you don't let them? I never play pined mine.

[@mama_tichi]

As I commented on your last video, I live in Warren Jeffs home. When you walk out the front door in Brick it says keep sweet on the side of one of the units. This is what this reminds me of, when Michelle says that they always have to talk sweet. This is very reminiscent of the flds

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

You live in his home?

[@ghents565]

Wow the stories i bet you have heard.

[@TJ-kz1ul]

I was raised in very similar abusive ways, growing up in a very conservatice, Christian family. I no longer have a relationship with my parents, nor am I a Christian. I am much happier as an adult, but sadly I can never get my childhood back.

[@janettemanderson7304]

I'm so sorry you were abused by your parents. I'm a fourth generation Christian and none of my relatives ever, ever abused their children. We followed what the Bible teaches in the New Testament: "Live a life filled with love for others, following the example of Christ." The Pearls teach classical conditioning (developed by humanist psychologist B.F. Skinner in the 30's and 40's) rewarding wanted behavior and punishing for unwanted behavior. The Pearls books are not Christian.

[@mascara1777]

Please consider that these people are not following true Christianity. Jesus said let the little children come unto me. Jesus is waiting for you to return to Him, you just need to take a chance and pray.

[@armildageorge169]

@@janettemanderson7304, you were so blessed to be raised by loving Christian parents. My parents wouldn't become Christians until six months before they died. I became a Christian at 13. So because I didn't have good parenting role models I had to step back and let the Lord teach me how to parent. I'm thankful that I recognized the need. I can honestly say that my husband and I raised three amazing son's.

[@taylor1598]

This is scary 😦 They pretty much love bomb them after “correcting” them. One day one of these kids may snap. One of the kids who died from the book, was an adopted girl. I believe it was mentioned that she had harsher punishments compared to bio kids’ harsh punishments.

[@janettemanderson7304]

Beautiful little Lydia Schatz from Liberia was beaten mercilessly February 10, 2010. When the police came, the parents tried to hide Lydia's sister, who was in her bedroom close to death from the beatings they had given to her, too. She could barely walk when the police asked her to come out of the room for questioning. She was rushed to the hospital. She would have died that night if the police had not intervened. I've been warning people about the Pearls for many, many years.

[@SwimSweetie100]

This is setting your child up for abuse. I want my child to question everything, not just obey mindlessly

[@TheZMom_Emmelia]

Sounds like a good idea until your kid runs in the street and you’re like “sally stop!” And they are like “nah I don’t feel like it.”

[@xKellogsx]

how about when he runs into a road and you yell, STOP! when you see a car. Still want him to not obey?

[@sharonproctor4079]

My daughter played on a blanket but she was not forced to stay on it. It just was for her comfort. And she hated playpens. She would nap in one but forget playing in one.

[@TheTinahanners]

I did the same with my kids. But making them stay was not important. I put them there to let them learn to hold their head up and crawling.

[@eelore5271]

I think a lot of us put our babies on blankets for comfort while playing. That is perfectly fine. It’s when you add spanking them for not staying on it that makes it cruel. I just can’t imagine doing that to my child.

[@retrochickt7947]

Now at 38 just give me a blanket and magazine.... I'm good.

[@psychicrenegade]

Hey, my narcissistic & abusive "mother" only had 6 kids, but she turned us into her own little CULT. Four out of six remain dependant and brainwashed, but me and one sister escaped and have been shunned. Remaining siblings are forbidden from contacting those who left.

[@skywithdiamonds5109]

Jim Bob gives me Jim Jones vibes

[@elianafleck7507]

Children are not piñatas!!!! Disgusting people. Maybe don’t have 20 kids so that you can properly take care of them!!!

[@justuslightworkers]

I do remember when my kiddos were tiny that I would have them play on a blanket for a while. They learned they needed to stay on it and play quietly, but it was never through anything harsh. More like repetition of picking them up if they got off and returning them to their blanket. Until they got the idea, that was a constant. But giving them a whack with a stick or pipe or something?!?! No way. I honestly don't remember if we had a playpen..... In any case, that little area for them looked different than the rest of the floor, and that's where their toys were, and so they associated that area as the place where fun was. This was especially true if we had to go somewhere. But that was just when they were babies and toddlers. And my kids have never been required to obey blindly. The way the Pearls and the Duggars, etc. teach is extreme. Big no-no. They're the ones who need big switches to their backsides.

[@katieulrich8445]

The way we “blanket trained” was co sleeping, on demand breastfeeding and wearing my baby everywhere so they were constantly comforted and close to mama’s heartbeat. I did put them on blankets with toys to play with but mainly so it was a softer place to lay if I was folding cloths or something. ☺️ If they cried I’d pick them up and comfort them.

[@judytullos9889]

My grandson could not sleep without his blanket. It soothed him. My daughter found the same blanket on the internet. Then she could wash the first one.

[@christiejensen1606]

Just hearing MD’s voice talk about not teaching her kids the word no makes me sick.

[@lillianlamantia9605]

Wow!!! I did something we called "blanket time" with our youngest and I had no idea that the term could be miss-construed with an abusive form of instilling fearful compliance, I did not even imagine that the term could be controversial. I NEVER hit my son, I started putting him with a few toys on a blanket when he was just about crawling, maybe slightly earlier and I would walk away for a minute or so (within eye shot for him), if he wimpered (he had major separation anxiety), I would reassure him, perhaps pick up a toy to interest him and then step away while he explored that toy. As the days went on I extended (my form of) "blanket time" by a minute or so until he would be happy with 5 minutes (and eventually on occasions closer to 15 mins). When he was comfortable being on the blanket I would be briefly out of sight and verbally reassure him if he fussed and would come back if he sounded distressed or after a minute or so. Later when he started trying to crawl off the blanket I would gently pick him up and say "it's blanket time, stay on your blanket" and put him back and direct him to a toy. We continued with blanket time in the mornings with a few toys and/or books till he was perhaps about 2 years old and sometimes he would just go and get his blanket and say "blanket time" and sit on it and do puzzles or play with cars etc. He is 7 now and still remembers it fondly. As I said he had terrible separation anxiety from about 4 months until he was 17 months and I couldn't leave his sight without a major melt-down (to go to the bathroom, fetch something from another room etc.) HOWEVER during blanket time he was happy (peaceful and calm) to let me out of his sight for a few minutes, - it was a SANITY SAVER. Obviously as there was never any punishment for l eaving the blanket it was never seen by him as a punishment and it meant I could put a blanket down anywhere with a couple of toys and know that he was safe and happy. Where we lived when the youngest was smaller (until 17 months) we had no space for a playpen/pack and play and I think that would have just felt like a baby prison to him.

[@tiffprendergast]

They seriously need to break away from the cult

[@ssshadowwolf6762]

They are the cult and they make a lot of money from it.

[@dolldoll2914]

👩‍💻Ahhh. . .my mom had 12 kids and she used a blanket for the baby. But the blanket was used to delineate and area for the baby. The bigger kids could not get on or play on the blanket. We could try to get the baby to come to us or reach in and give the baby a toy. In time the baby was crawling and walking and the blanket was usually dragged behind the baby. But this other stuff with a big smile and then a smack if they tried to get off, no not acceptable, in fact waiting around for your child to follow you into the other room or get off the blanket is sadistic to me, really deceptively dishonest. That is not child rearing. Much love and peace.🙋‍♀️🪔🌠🖖🥰🔆🔆🔆

[@ravenpoeacup]

And Josh watched this happening. No wonder he grew up to be such a wacki

[@armildageorge169]

Sadly Josh was sexually abused himself and he never received proper therapy for it. It appears that the parents did him a huge disservice and I put some of the blame on them. Instead of getting him the proper help, they basically swept it under the rug and I think they did it so people wouldn't know that their perfect family wasn't so perfect.

[@ravenpoeacup]

@@armildageorge169 in another videos comments, I brought up this same point. I believe he was abused and nothing was done about it. I also think that is why Jb is paying for this defense and has “has his back” for years out of guilt.

[@hollywinters694]

Its a damn good thing I wasn't the child welfare worker in her county. There would have been hell to pay. I cannot tolerate child abuse in any form, no matter the excuse.

[@claireanderson367]

Someone needs to get OCS Called on the Family. Because those kids need help.

[@sonyafox3271]

What is the OCS? Who told you it was the OCS, you or whoever told you that is so, wrong. Point Blank! It’s the DFC, which is the Department Of Family And Children Services that’s where you go to report child abuse, after hours and, on the weekend it’s the local or state police in your area. There has never been OCS. Before, The Department OF Family and Children Services it was called the Department of Welfare Services.

[@joycampbell4349]

Sonya you do not know everything. In different states the child welfare office is called different things. In NM it is CYFD, so don’t jump all over people.

[@jenniferpajor5365]

@@sonyafox3271 it’s called different things in different states. My state calls it DCS (Department of Child Safety)

[@giabarrone7422]

@@sonyafox3271 Aren't you an arrogant little thing! As the others have said, every state names their child protection offices differently. Mine was DCFS. If you find that too confusing, most Americans understand when you say 'CPS' (Child Protective Services). Also, it sounds like you are quite familiar with your local branch, I hope everything is okay and you are doing well.

[@evandomom9410]

@@sonyafox3271 there are many different acronyms for child services and it depends on the state and also the country one lives in. Being rude to someone for no reason is kind of hateful and immature especially when the comment you are replying to wasn’t even rude..... Also in my state DFC isn’t a thing......it’s DCS. So...”point blank” you might want to not use your keyboard to put others down. In Alaska OCS is the office of children services. All it took to find that was a Google search. Don’t be a jerk.....maybe use your keyboard to educate yourself

[@deninejackson2316]

That's how I train my dogs. " Who's a good boy?"

[@kittiwhieldon4329]

Yes but I bet you don’t use a rod on your dogs. I’ve never even hit my rescue with a newspaper. It would only add to her anxiety. I never hit my kids either. Granted, none of them are “obedient”. But of all the traits I hoped they would develop, “obedient” wasn’t one of them.

[@LP-lc6dn]

She's not a mother she's a classroom teacher... how could you possibly nurture 19 kids?

[@buffy32684]

I have a Christian friend who recommended it to me a year ago for my then 1 year old. Luckily I had been watching your videos for a couple years at that point and knew enough to know... HECK NO! Thanks for informing/educating people about this practice. I wouldn’t have know if it wasn’t for your videos.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

I’m so glad it helped!

[@wynnkidsnannylorivance4111]

Get a playpen. Although, they tried to teach me that playpens are abusive to children and self indulgent.

[@mienafriggstad3360]

We had Christian friends (we are Christians) recommend it to us; even to use with our mid level autism daughter who was a toddler and then a preschooler; this was 8 to 15 yrs ago. I didn't know it was still being premoted 😡

[@janettemanderson7304]

So glad WACB is using this platform to educate and warn parents. The Pearl book is very sick. I read it to warn other parents and I was shocked. The Pearls use hurting their babies and children to "train" them and they hurt them many times a day. I'm sure Michelle hit the twins 20 or 30 times a day when she was doing blanket time four sessions a day. A parent doing this is hardening their heart toward their child.

[@anonymouslyconcerned]

​@@wynnkidsnannylorivance4111We used a playpen rarely.We don't want our babies to be sad. Now it just holds toys.

[@elizabethgrogan8553]

I'm shocked at this. No child should be beaten, under any circumstances. Teaching little children to obey adults immediately just opens the door to abusers. I used my daughter's favourite blanket to wrap her up and hold her in my arms if she was having a tough time. I'd sing to her and she would fall asleep. That horrible book should be banned.

[@Catglittercrafts]

That’s the part that freaks me out. Like Michelle openly says that they want their kids to try and work it out amongst themselves and not come to them ever because if they come to them that means They didn’t try hard enough to turn their siblings heart to God, whatever the Frick that means. It’s so manipulative

[@elizabethgrogan8553]

@@Catglittercrafts I know. It's beyond crazy.

[@themissingink444]

@@Catglittercrafts yes, basically, they’re in for “correction” regardless what they do.

[@sharonproctor4079]

This is all because she is too lazy to watch her little ones.

[@amnoturgurl9323]

I found you, two years ago, with the Duggar video when it was 19 & Counting. I have been obsessed with watching these videos this year. Thanks for opening my mind to this Duggar is a cult. I hear on this book ever in my life am an 26 yr old woman. I dont have any kids yet, but when do am not using method of parenting style. This is so sad for the children its so HEART BREAKING :(

[@bethparker3695]

If she didn’t have some many damn kids, she wouldn’t have this problem! So ridiculous!!!🤬

[@rebeccalunsford9372]

This is sick all these people bought and follow that book. How can parents do this to their children. Just disgusting 😒

[@darlenegattus8190]

They ought to be in jail!

[@jennyhowdy9664]

I was raised with blanket time, we were sat on a blanket and told to play independently and quietly for a short period of time. We weren’t hit if we got off the blanket, we were just sat back on the blanket. As we got older we called it quiet time, then as a teenager it was quiet alone time. I understand what they are doing is smacking their kid to correct them and that makes it wrong, I guess we just had a different blanket time.

[@mygirldarby]

It depends on the child whether that will work. My mom tried to do a similar thing with me, (no hitting either), but I cried incessantly and inconsolably until she picked me up. I would also cry when I was put down for a nap. My dad told my mom to just let me cry until I eventually fell asleep. Well, apparently I was crying and shrieking and suddenly i stopped. They both ran into my room and found me unable to breathe. I was under a year old at tthe time. My mom called for an ambulance and my dad tried to save my life. I turned blue and was dying. He freaked out and slammed me on the back, hard. It was a mucus plug that had blocked my breathing and he dislodged it with hitting me on the back. Needless to say, he stopped telling my mom to let me cry it out. From that point on, they didn't leave me lying there, endlessly crying.

[@curiousobserver97]

@@mygirldarby Wow! You are describing my daughter. She was exactly the same way and had exactly the same thing happen to her. She was crying and stopped suddenly (thankfully right in front of me), her face was kind of still and I realized she wasn't breathing. We weren't having a meal at the time. She began to turn blue so fast. I turned her upside down and wacked her back and she could breath again. They say this happens to babies of C-sections. May I ask if you were hyperactive and defiant as a child too?

[@lilolmecj]

I think it is good for children to learn to sit quietly in age appropriate segments of time. Sometimes you need to be able to ask them to do so, but there is no world where this training is right. It is cruel and gross.

[@laurabeth7755]

I had my 1st child in 09 & bought this book. I was a big fan of the Duggars. I was so naive. I always thought when she said "corrected", that she picked up the kid and then sat him back on the blanket... I totally misread that.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Nope, they use a rod

[@spicyramen6172]

Don’t feel duped, they are very very good at manipulation 😬

[@e.l.o.3453]

According to Kristiana Miner in an interview with Chris Sheldon (kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4i0qmeCfLqEiMk ; it's about an hour long but I highly recommend to anyone watching this channel) the blanket training is even worse. Parents are waving keys and toys in front of the child in order to entice them off the blanket. As soon as they get off, they 'correct' the child. They discuss the damaging effects that that practice might have on the children.

[@cathrinefrydenlund3180]

Her use of the term "corrected" was very intentional. She would have gotten roasted if she had written "hit the baby/toddler with a rod" instead. She knew she had to use a term that would camouflage the reality. She knows most of her viewers/fans (christians or not) would not have been ok with what was really going on during blanket time. So you shouldn't feel bad for misinterpreting her words. She wanted you to believe she wasn't being abus*ve to her children.

[@xKellogsx]

how would that correct any child?

[@hazelangus]

I wasn't raised in a fundie family, but physical punishment was used. It was traumatic to my brother seeing me go through that, and for me too when he got hit. Poor babies. :-(

[@katiebee8699]

I could almost see this being a halfway decent method for teaching children - IF THEY USED POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT - instead of this corporal punishment abusive bs! I mean...as parents, we all try our best to teach skills like good listening, and not throwing toys, and not screaming at inappropriate times, and sharing with siblings, and so on. We don’t need a book to inform us that hitting a child until they obey in fear is not good parenting. Gimme a freaking break! Sigh this is heartbreaking.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

No, it's not a reward, That is the sickest comment. Being HIT by a Rod is not positive

[@tiffprendergast]

@@WithoutACrystalBall yup

[@tiffprendergast]

@@sodapoplove95 nooo

[@sahawk0709]

@@sodapoplove95 positive reinforcement is NEVER being hit? Unless one is playing laser tag, or football being hit is never okay

[@tylerlittle8577]

I think sweetlo is trying to explain the actual definitions in the world of training animals. There is positive reinforcement, positive punishment, negative reinforcement and negative punishment. If I remember correctly “positive” simply means something is added. Like hitting, a treat or an object of value. It’s not saying that the “reward” itself is positive but simply defines that something was added. Positive reinforcement is when something is added to encourage a specific behavior. Positive punishment is when something is added to discourage a behavior. So positive punishment would be hitting a dog when they react on leash to seeing another dog. You are adding the hit, in order to discourage the current behavior. Where positive reinforcement would be offering a dog a toy or treat that they enjoy when they are giving you the behavior you want. Negative reinforcement is taking something away to encourage a current behavior. For example a dog that becomes excited when seeing other dogs, when they present calm behavior you can remove the excitable stimuli. Negative punishment would be removing somthing that discourages a behavior. For example, if a dog rips up your pillows you can take them away so that the behavior cannot occur. **edit all of this applies to psychology in humans as well. I found a like that describe it really well. Positive reinforcement- buying a child a toy when they are quiet while grocery shopping. Positive punishment- blanket training, spanking when bad. Negative punishment- taking away a loud toy during a movie to encourage a child to be quiet. Negative reinforcement- removing the child lock controls on a computer or tv when the child becomes more responsible.

[@ColorsofHopeCraftsASMR]

I agree this is disgusting and horrible from a child development perspective. I almost completed a Masters in teaching ECE, and the reason I follow your channel is because I’m interested in ECE.

[@MB-nl3ig]

Wow, she is ripping the soul of a little child. Imagination must not be allowed either.

[@jessikajynx]

I only have one vague memory of being spanked as a kid and I think my parents felt bad after and they never did it again.

[@eelore5271]

This is just so wrong on so many levels. It’s psychologically damaging to a child. It does nothing but instill fear and establish authoritative control. These poor babies. It just makes me want to cry. I cannot even imagine doing that to my child.

[@johnhart1671]

These people are a good example of why birth contol os a must

[@Blove0130]

While I don’t believe in hitting a child, there has to be some discipline. That is why kids are so out of control these days. Parents are so afraid of correcting their children. Kids need boundaries. Otherwise, they grow up thinking they can do anything without consequences.

[@janice576]

Nothing wrong with a lil spanking.. look at this generation..HORRIBLE

[@jeselivelasco3867]

@@janice576 the problem is not the spanking is that people are abusing children hitting them full of anger and frustration. Disciplining is nothing like that.

[@La_Ru-yg8es]

I was able to bring up happy, healthy, kind, motivated, and thoughtful kids, without hitting being part of our discipline strategy.

[@TheSaltySiren]

@@La_Ru-yg8es same! I have raised 4 (ages 26, we, 19, and 13) to be good, loving, and responsible human beings who give back to society. It honestly isn’t that difficult! Edited to add that I raised them on my own! My ex husband was abusive, and I raised them entirely without his help.

[@La_Ru-yg8es]

@@janice576 This generation is amazing! I find Millenials and Gen-Zers to be compassionate, tolerant, and very much about justice, kindness, and caring for one another, animals, our planet, etc. Also, if you think they are so horrible, ask yourself this: which generation(s) raised these supposedly incorrigible brats? Hmmmm. It's an old saying, and kind of insipid, but it fits here: remember when you point a finger, there are four more pointing back towards you. 🤔

[@jeanieq6153]

I read To Train up a Child years ago to see if it was as bad as people had told me. It was horrifying. Worse than any horror film I had ever seen. The matter-of-fact way they advise what kind of tube to buy and how to use it was the most cold-blooded thing I ever heard.

[@xKellogsx]

my fave book on child training. highly recommend To Train Up a Child to those who love their children enough to teach respect for authority. Not for snow flake 'time outers'

[@jeanieq6153]

@@xKellogsx I guess you missed the part where they repeatedly hold the child’s head under the water in the toilet to break their spirit.

[@xKellogsx]

@@jeanieq6153 yes i missed it because they say no such thing. please quote. I'll wait.

[@jeanieq6153]

@@xKellogsx I think it would be more beneficial for you to do your own research.

[@xKellogsx]

@@jeanieq6153 i have thanks. i own all their books, shows, CDs and follow all their children and their ministries. Perhaps you ought to read their book before you listen to people in future because i assure you, thats nowhere in it.

[@kmj1e5]

I loved the pack N play! That was the only way to get things done.

[@xKellogsx]

yeah funny thing though, play pens dont teach obedience.

[@emiliekim5451]

I was spanked by my parents quite a bit as a child (I was pretty stubborn) and although I probably didn't appreciate it at the time, I turned out ok and never saw that as abuse 🙃 Now as to my own future children, I think there are better ways to discipline children.

[@MeganSaidThis]

Also, I think yelling and parents fighting and growing up in chaos is just as bad if not worse, my childhood trauma was more having 2 parents fighting a lot and having anxiety from all the yelling they did at one another. My husband and I rarely fight and if we disagree I refuse to yell at him and vice versa. I told him early on that would not happen (parents yelling and loudly fighting) in our house.

[@AlexisTwoLastNames]

@@MeganSaidThis i agree. loud yelling makes me uncomfortable and scared.

[@wildflower868]

The difference is 'blanket time' starts when they are as young as 18 months.

[@seameology]

I got hit with a belt once. I was 13, the oldest of eight kids. Most of us were in the kitchen, wrapping up deer meat. We started throwing chunks of fat and slime around at each other. The parents came home and looked in the window. I truly can't complain. The kitchen was gross. And I don't even remember if we were made to clean it up.

[@dyaneelderd1326]

People can be ok after genital mutilation. Some live happy lives after growing up beaten and s.a.'d. You feeling you turned out fine does not mean hitting someone to bend them to your will is acceptable. On your 18th birthday, they call it assault.

[@lauren.g5382]

So basically these kids weren’t allowed to think for themselves, question authority or have a voice. They were obedient robots. As humans we need to question things and become critical thinkers. That’s how we learn. Kids always always ask questions because they need to learn new things.

[@xKellogsx]

what happens when that free thinking, questioning child runs into a road and you yell, Stop! Danger! You're gonna wish you taught him to obey first, think after then.

[@PeaceAndJoy007]

Blanket training is nothing less than MK Ultra mind control tactics. How could this not cause trauma in a child?

[@xKellogsx]

yes sitting on a blanket, absolute torture.

[@jennicole7312]

Having children be fearful of adults and asking for absolute obedience is asking for a disaster. What happens if someone realizes this and manipulates the child in more ways than one. It’s disgusting.

[@deeanna8448]

That's why children raised in these conditions make prime targets for sexual abuse. They don't get taught about body parts and consent, so they don't understand what is happening. Even if they do, they feel they must obey their authority figure, so they are reluctant to report. They also get taught that men can't control urges and women who dress immodestly cause the men to 'stumble.' So even if they know it isn't appropriate and know they don't have to obey, they feel it is their fault for dressing wrong.

[@janettemanderson7304]

A therapist friend of mine who was also warning parents about the Pearls sadly observed that this training would send many people her way for therapy later in life.

[@xKellogsx]

what happens when they run infront of a car and you yell STOP!? Better hope they obey then.

[@flora-wz4ox]

"Sometimes it was once a day, Sometimes it may be there times a day." The whole randomness of when these incidents and length of time they happen is yet another traumatizing aspect to this.