Mick Schumacher's fate just got interesting

[@LawVS]

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[@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers]

you know what would solve such dilemmas with picking only one driver? having more than just 20 cars racing, seriously I'm still mad about everyone going against Michael Andretti

[@NewtypeCommander]

Well I have some good news on that front, as apparently the European Commission will be conducting a similar antitrust investigation. If FOM weren't quaking in their boots at the US DOJ investigating them, then they certainly will be quaking now that the EC are getting involved.

[@Argosh]

Well, technically they're just against Andretti until they have to bring a bigger pile of money.

[@desshinnick9365]

Another team is a great idea. That team is NOT Andretti.

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

"Everyone" doesn't include the majority of actual fans. Many of us want Andretti in F1 (particularly those of us who remember Mario at his best!)

[@Argosh]

@@y_fam_goeglyd pretty sure he's referring to the teams, ie every team not every fan.

[@twinturbo3470]

I really think that if Mick had been paired with Kimi at Alfa Romeo, Mick would have fared much better. I’m sure Kimi would have put his arm around Micks shoulder and showed him the ropes. No doubt Kimi would have been proud to help Michael’s son

[@aubanurmi]

Truth.

[@aubanurmi]

He was already very protective of Giovinazzi.

[@twinturbo3470]

@@aubanurmi this is true

[@tigerpjm]

@@twinturbo3470 You reckon the Alfa was better at smashing through barriers?

[@BDSFormula1]

2 Germans at a German Team One is Nico, the other Schumacher

[@weybye91]

So you only want him at Audi due hos last name

[@BDSFormula1]

@@weybye91 you didn't understand the comment

[@Torpedo_Hans]

2010 - 2012 Mercedes line-up

[@cautilligab]

Imagine calling their 1-2 finish a blitzkrieg 😅

[@shanepearce1629]

The third is Mick Schumacher. The 25-year-old has already been out of F1 for two seasons, and if a German manufacturer at the genesis of a new project has no interest in hiring him, then it is almost certain the door has been closed on him in F1 for good.

[@doug3011]

everyone wants Mick to succeed...it can take one race weekend to destroy your confidence but an entire year to get it back, and he had several disastrous weekends that year..he's doing really well in Hypercars, and is young enough to get a second chance. fingers crossed he gets back in.hi junior career was really good, 2nd in world and European karting champs, F3 champ F2 champ. he needs to build confidence slowly and then I think he will be amazing.

[@tigerpjm]

Why is he good enough? Logan Sargeant had a similar resume, and only just got pipped by Piastri in F3. How did that pan out for Logan? The only form that matters once you get to F1 is F1 form. And Mick's was woeful. Seriously, he was one of the worst rookies ever.

[@kikay134]

@@tigerpjm No, Logan's resume isn't as impressive. At least Mick managed 12 points (could've been more had his car been more reliable) in his only decent season. He managed to battle with Max and Lewis for a few laps that Logan never managed to do. He did lose both battles after a few laps, but hey, it's a crappy Haas and a Red Bull, or Merc.

[@tigerpjm]

@@kikay134 No. What I said was success in other categories does not guarantee success in F1. If it did, Logan Sargeant would have been a success. Mick's had his go and was, frankly, terrible. Being better than Logan Sargeant is a low bar to clear, and Mick only scraped over it.

[@billsimpson1085]

He’s good in sports cars. Leave him there.

[@Meeko2689]

Mick Schumacher is not good enough, if he was a good driver he would be driving a Mercedes next year, I seriously don't understand why some fans are so obsessed with Mick and Ricciardo.

[@Tycho_L]

People are too fast with using Mick's last name as a reason why he got into F1 and why we want him back, but I'd argue a different reason. Mick did have two full seasons, but there is context that is very important with those. 2021 he was in a HAAS next to Mazepin, almost enough said but I'll elaborate. The VF-21 was labelled by multiple sources as a "Bad Car", as it was just a modified and arguably worse VF-20. Adding to that was that Mick had no experienced driver next to him to teach him. He had no F2 champion or even race winner next to him but Mazepin, who has more spins than race starts (22 over 21 races). In 2022 he slowly became better, but still crashed a few times. This could have been because he was pushing the car to the limit. He was very close to Magnussen or beat him in the head to head stats: Points 21-12 Kevin, Race Results 6-10 Mick, Qualifying 16-6 Kevin, Fastest Lap 3-17 Mick, Best Results 5th-6th. Mick beat Kevin in Race Results and Fastest Lap insinuating Mick was pushing the car more and harder, which is why he crashed more (Plus Magnussen was used to the Haas characteristics). Does this make Mick a generational talent? No. But he could definitely be a decent to great mid field driver like, arguably, drivers like Pierre, Alex or Nico are if he gets the chance to develop himself. With Audi he could have less pressure and a healthier environment to develop!

[@tex4523]

Exactly, ive had the same view. Mick sort of screwed himself by joining Haas. Perhaps he should have waited a year and joined Alpha Romeo instead. The issue he had was he won the F2 championship so he had to leave F2. The timing was just really bad. Mick is far better than most drivers on the grid but unfortunatelly he doesnt have the sponsors that others do so he loses out (as do other young drivers)

[@nazo294]

Mick should have been in Sauber 2021, if he had that shot there would be no question about his talents. Kid won F2-F3/GP3, we have Leclerc, Oscar and George on the grid who all won as well, he deserves a true shot. The god awful Haas car of 2021 was a write out season. Yes he is crash prone, but once you have so much pressure on you to perform its hard to keep your head in the game. Give him a solid shot, kids a great driver and a good person to work with. Wishing him luck, kids a fighter.

[@Tycho_L]

This!!! Also do people even remember Crashstappen?! If you'd remove every young driver that crashes more, we wouldn't have the current World Champion. Mick beat Kevin 17-3 in Fastest Lap and 10-6 in Race Results, which means that he was pushing that Haas way more than Kevin. People arguing Logan crashed too need to look at the stats. Logan didn't beat Alex in anything, at least Mick was close to Magnussen and beat him in some categories.

[@merenwen4495]

Verstappen won his first race in a Redbull. He crashed a lot, but it was absolutely obvious the kid had talent, and it was only a question of when he would become champion, and not if. And beating Kmag every now and then is not a very strong argument when Hulk whipes the floor with him every race. Kmag is an average driver at best. Being practicaly on par with an average driver shouldn’t be a reason to get him back in f1. He had his chance, and he blew it.

[@tex4523]

@@merenwen4495 clueless. KMag and Hulk have been in F1 for decades and won nothing. They have loads of experience against a rookie. Neither of them would have done better than Mick in the 2021 Haas. No driver would have. There are many drivers who have won their first race in that Redbull, dont be a tool. Had Mick joined with a better team he would still be in F1.

[@FullTimeGaming360]

Mick won his championship on more attempts. George, Leclerc and Piastri won in their rookie seasons

[@SuperMarkizas]

Am I the only one who didn't see much magic when Mick was in F1?

[@weybye91]

I saw a driver that was crap, and even made stroll look good

[@LuminalSpoon]

Maybe Silverstone and Hungary 2022 but that's pretty much it.

[@weybye91]

@@LuminalSpoon so 2 out of what 42 races?

[@LuminalSpoon]

@@weybye91 Yeah, cant think of any more.

[@samuelebarberi8631]

Austria 2022

[@motelghost477]

How can Schumacher deserve another chance if Colapinto is on the sidelines?

[@LawVS]

I understand and if Franco DID show interest in the seat, he's a contender. However, he's vocalised his preference to remain at Williams for now; ready to pounce in case either Alex or Carlos move on.

[@arjunnair8037]

Just because one driver deserves a chance in F1, doesn't mean another driver doesn't. How is that rocket science?

[@Patcherr77]

@@LawVS Also, there would be a buyout and other mumbo jumbo within the contract, James Vowels DOES want Franco in that last F1 seat, and has said they were talking about it with Sauber. But I don't think it's really a big option for Sauber, I think they go with Mick, if hes terrible they drop him before 2026 and they'll still be relatively fine on that aspect. All would workout well.

[@Avera1305]

Remember this is f1 no one deserves a drive it’s kind of like you get what your given and you taken what you can get.

[@weybye91]

​@@LawVSso he should get the seat cause of his last name? Cause he has already proven he is not a good driver

[@langbuddha2798]

I feel like people are just scared to say the truth about Mick. I mean Toto has had years to put him in the car or even recommend him for Williams. But Toto doesn’t even suggest him for Williams. It is very obvious that everyone in F1 sees the truth about Mick but are to scared to say it, thus Mick just sticks around in the paddock, never on the grid.

[@supernerd4623]

Toto wanted him in Williams but Williams didn't bite, James wants to be inependant

[@mrnolaneng1]

@@supernerd4623 and found better talent

[@langbuddha2798]

@@supernerd4623 he didnt tho, I mean we all know what JV thinks of Mick, its what we all think JV is the only one with the balls to say it out loud. but at the same time Toto hasnt tried to get Mick into any seat not even the Merc seat, because Toto thinks the same of Mick that JV thinks of Mick

[@TheNickmista]

James Vowles said it and he got torn apart for it. I thought he was completely on the mark. Schumacher isn't anything special and people keep trying to make him a thing when he doesn't at all deserve it and the only reason he keeps getting brought up is because of his name.

[@Tofu_food]

@@supernerd4623 James didnt want to be independent. He wasnt convinced about the simulator performance of Mick

[@glenmorganshaw9961]

The more I hear about fernandos managerial exploits the more I think he might be becoming like how lauda was to Merc but with Aston

[@arg_9584]

Don’t believe Mick deserves the seat at this point when younger drivers are ready to make a claim.

[@arvidtheanimator]

Mick is 25, he is still a young driver

[@hattorihaso2579]

I dont care about younger drivers

[@arglebargle5531]

We lack context for what he's shown since getting the boot. He could be easy for another claim too.

[@Checkyoursix77]

Who would choose Schumacher over Colapinto?

[@hattorihaso2579]

@@Checkyoursix77 me

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

People don't really seem to understand that Mick is pretty much carrying the Alpine Hypercar at the moment.

[@richardwood9177]

Norris & Piastri won’t work long term. One will go. Red Bull? Ferrari? No question Mclaren have the best current driver lineup. But there’s already tensions. Not following team orders. Not Senna/Prost style - yet. But it will come. You can’t have two alpha’s. It doesn’t work. Look at Schumacher and Barrichello or Hamilton and Bottas. As much as teams want to deny it there has to be a Robin to every team’s Batman. Hamilton & Rosberg almost tore Mercedes apart. Next year is going to be interesting at Ferrari.

[@platylobiumobtuseangulum1607]

So many drivers that deserve a chance. So very few seats - and we still have Stroll and Perez driving in F1? Sigh. I'd like Mick Schumi, Poor-chair & Bortoleto all in somehow. If I could. Also a couple more teams on the grid too.

[@zlm001]

I don’t have anything against Bottas, he deserves to be on the grid over Ricciardo and Perez in my opinion, but there’s really one reason I’d like to see him with Sauber next year, and that’s for driver comparisons. Even though it’s been a few years, there’s a lot of information and data on how Bottas stacks up against Hamilton. If Hulkenberg destroys Bottas next year in the Championship I could better gauge his abilities compared to Hulkenberg beating up (or not) Mick or Colapinto.

[@ccramit]

He sucks. Took 2 years to win F3 and F2 in really weak years. Was crap compared to KMag. Worst stats for an F2 champion since 2017. But because of his name, people want him in F1. Toto had chances to put him in a Merc, and he didn't. Haas didn't want him. Ferrari booted him from their academy. Everyone keeps saying he is talented but no one wants him in their seat. They gave him a chance because having a Schumacher in your car would have been amazing if it turned out well. It did not. He sucks. He had his chance. Move on. Lawson and Colapinto came in super late into a season and showed talent right away. Something Mick struggled to do over 2 years. Yeah. He beat Mazepin, but even Latifi and Sargeant could do that.

[@elzeban]

I wouldn’t call his 2022 season bad. He did get the upper hand on Kmag overall race results and fastest laps. His main problem was that he pushed the car that he didn’t know very much, too hard. He is a good driver, when his own team isn’t playing against him. Good example is WEC, he pulled magnificent overtakes and got a podium in an Alpine. He is one hell of a driver.

[@raynaldidwicahyono7022]

For those of you wondering why so many of us would love to see Mick back in F1 the answer is simple, Mick has a great personality. We don't care how successful his father is, and we don't care that he's not the greatest driver. Mick is a good person and that's enough for us to support him.

[@mrnolaneng1]

is personality is crashing into walls and being slow

[@Otroroboto]

@@mrnolaneng1”One of us! One of us!”

[@myvishan]

@@Otroroboto haha this comment deserves more likes :)))

[@nieko3038]

Personality doesn’t earn points. Daniel showed that.

[@FullMetalPower7]

cap... I didn't know personality wins you races😂

[@ivaneurope]

Audi doesn't want to be seen as a stepping stone or developing drivers for other teams. They wanted Bortoleto on a 4-year deal, but Zak Brown was only willing to agree on 1+1 year deal (basically a 1-2 years rental) and he has all the leverage. The situation is the same with Colapinto - James Vowles will let him go, but also with conditions. Why would Audi have either of the two when they won't have direct control over the contracts of either driver? Even if a contract buyout is negotiated for one of the two, it will end up being doozy. Better have a driver who won't have strings or conditions around his neck. And Mick may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, at least Toto Wolff won't object. And even if it fails misreably, at least Audi will get some publicity points out of it. And who knows - by 2027 they may have a homegrown talent of their own without relying on an 'import'.

[@DeathBlocks]

Wish more people could understand this concept.

[@ivaneurope]

@@DeathBlocks Considering that Sauber will be a bottom feeder in its last year under that name in F1 (until inevitably comes back again) and it's unlikely Audi will pull a Brawn GP in 2026, Mick could serve as a decent stopgap solution. In the cases of Bortoleto and Colapinto, Audi will have to negotiate with the teams holding their contracts to let them go without any clauses or conditions, which is a tall order anyway. Honestly, all academy affiliated drivers should have a clause which stipulates that they're free to go if a F1 opportunity appears regardless whether it's with the team you're affiliated with or not. The situation with Bortoleto feels more like a hostage situation - Audi doesn't want him as a mere rental like McLaren wants, but as their long-term project that will lead them to (presumably) glory.

[@DeathBlocks]

@@ivaneurope I like that "until they inevitably come back". I think that would be a cool thing for the academy drivers to have but I would understand how teams wouldn't go for that. And yeah just like how the teams wouldn't want to necessarily use a loan driver it is understandable if someone like Bortoleto would rather sit out for a year or 2 than lose his connection (Like how Law said about Colapinto). Although, with both Norris and Piastri being so young Bortaleto kind of has to hope that they start getting into big conflicts soon otherwise he is just waiting around forever.

[@christopherbrooks5548]

When Audi signed Hulkenberg, that was the writing on the wall for Bottas.

[@christophergritti9873]

Why does Mick deserve another chance when he had two full seasons, and produced 3, maybe 4 good results with that car. Out of 42 or 44 races whatever it was. I dont see anybody championing Nick Devries return, or mazipin, or Latifi. And if you're being honest LawVS, THATS the level that Mick was preforming at. Love your show dude, but I just don't get this one

[@ИвайлоАлександров-ж6ю]

Latifi had 3 years. Mazepin is not racing due to other plitical reasons. De Vries was making silly mistakes. Make difference between a heavy crash due to pushing the car and mistakes due to lack of judgement. Yes, Mick had a silly mistake too in Japan, but De vries was in teh RedBull famili and we all know how unfair could be the things there.

[@francisnitsch-jones5908]

He was driving an absolutely awful car and he got that car to P6 and p8

[@christophergritti9873]

@francisnitsch-jones5908 he also cost the team 4.5 million dollars in damages during that same season and didn't break into the top ten beyond that. In 2 seasons, 2 good results doesn't cut it, im sorry. Look at Hulkenberg, Magnussen, Kobayashi, Maldonado, raikonon, webber, THATS how you drive an underpreforming car. I'm not saying he's bad by any means, hell im not a fricking driver. But he has had more than ample time by f1 standards to put up way more than he has. I dont see how giving that seat to mick vs a rookie is fair. If it was somebody like Sargent or latifi taking a open seat vs a rookie yall would FLIP out. This is literally no different

[@BobbyGeneric145]

Because Mick comes with a) a huge fan base for the German car company b) drove that haas to the ragged edge c) great work ethic and d) above commenter quotes stuff from a completely different car to what mick drove.

[@ivorfortune1225]

Mick is alot better than people give him credit for....

[@ccramit]

Still not good enough for F1.

[@jonathanschreiber6053]

​@@ccramitSaid the expert

[@emptywords9569]

Yes at splitting chassis 😅

[@ivorfortune1225]

Dont see you all calling for Perez head who has exceeded Mick in damages and the 2024 season is not even over yet. He is as good as Albon or even better arguably.

[@thepinktreeclub]

bortoleto too tho

[@MOTOR659]

Mick is not a top driver. He had his shot in F1 and 'crashed' it. Picking your driver based solely on a last name or country of origin is idiotic. Riddle me this, if Mick is such a talent, then why didn't Toto pick him up for the empty seat? Oh that's right, better, younger, drivers are already in the pipeline. If Mick want's to get back, have him race in INDY car. He can race open wheel against some top drivers in another top series. Win the series and he can make a strong case for F1 in a couple of years.

[@tex4523]

youre dreaming if you think every driver on the grid is better than Mick. People like you are so butthurt because of his surname that you love seeing him failing. Had Mick had even an average car when he joined F1 he would still be there. Had he changed his surname you clowns with your pitchforks wouldnt have had an agenda like you do. Riddle me this, why do good drivers like Mick get sidelined when there are so many pay/sponsored drivers in half the teams. Get a clue.

[@takumifujiwara13954]

​​@@tex4523💯 Dude's also delusional if he thinks winning IndyCar will prove anything. F1 doesn't care about IndyCar results. 🤣

[@lmads8023]

So do you not F1 its a miracle what he did in his first season. Able to get close to other cars on the grid. Yes he crashed. Lewis crashes guess he should be booted from f1 as well. He's done a phenomenal job for merc on data gathering. And then also in WEC

[@DaHitch]

Has there ever been a driver who wasn't good enough for F1, who after a stint in Indycar suddenly was good enough for F1 a few years later? If you leave F1 for another open wheel series, your F1 career is over. Period.

[@DrewBlankMusic]

The green hue coming from your right side must be the "asylum" sign.

[@u.jvrensburg]

I will say it again, Guenther, RUINED Mick's name, and chances at an f1 seat, It's sad because Mick deserves the chance to prove himself.

[@mattfantastic9969]

Please stop trying to make Schumacher happen It's never going to happen

[@nicholasacampora]

I don't understand why so much of the narrative around Mick revolves around whether or not he can be successful in F1. I don't disagree that he's doing a great job in WEC, but why do his proponents want to put him back in a position to be compared directly to his father? Almost nobody can compare to that, seems like setting him up for failure regardless of how he performs. I'd rather see him continue to succeed in WEC, maybe even win a couple championships there. I think the best thing for Mick's legacy, and the Schumacher legacy as a whole, would be a demonstration that the family can succeed, maybe even dominate, across multiple motorsports. Mick has many talents, let him start his own history; do something unique to himself. Conclusion: Mick's a good driver and there's more to racing and driving talent than F1. Always enjoy the videos and discussion, thanks for another fun one, much love!

[@frankbieser]

On teams making money, I have to quibble with you on that. Yes, sponsorships go back to the 60s. But that was just to help the teams stay on the grid and fund the engineering needed to hopefully win races. This trend of teams being profitable is pretty new, and will likely be the sports undoing, when the fad created by DTS fades, and sponsors start looking for new places to advertise. Just remember what F1's trajectory was before DTS. Racing has seen fans come and go over the last 100 years. Right now F1 is at peak fandom. If what's going on in NASCAR and Indycar is any indication, F1's downside is coming.

[@Otroroboto]

If he had a different last name we wouldn’t be having this conversation. He belongs in WEC or Indy, not in Formula 1.

[@notliquid1448]

Mick's stints at Fuji were MENTAL, his pace and overtakes were genuinely really good

[@ImmaBeBored]

you always jinx it, law

[@VulgrDisplay]

Colapinto is hoping that Sai z absolutely destroys Albon next year. If he continues to put uo a good showing the rest of this season he might even take Albons seat mid season next year.

[@sonyu87]

God i Pray for that

[@lampard2705]

I think Sauber would bet on potential. We all love Hulkenberg, but lets not forget. He has had the car under him to get a podium in his career. The fact that he's been chosen over and over again speaks volumes to his abilities. Lets not forget, this is the team that introduced us to the highs of Charles Leclerc, and the lows of Antonio Giovinazzi. Its got to be Theo!

[@Urbanmember1]

I have been simping for Mick since he entered the sport. I think he would have become a solid mid tier driver if he had more time. I think it is unfair how Haas and the fans evaluated him. However, it is time to let go. I just can't care about this bi-weekly media circus trying to get people interested in his fate anymore.

[@chipsawdust5816]

The worst thing about Mick is he really needs a new hairdresser. Maybe Ralf can help him find one.

[@morris-00]

Mick Schumacher doesn't deserve another chance. He has been 'x team or bust' for too long. When will it actually be bust

[@emptywords9569]

Yo, who's paying you? The day Ferrari dropped him was the day his F1 career ended. What doesn't go through people's 💀

[@SusloNick]

Colapinto understands that being in the bottom team could be career ending. Better stick to Williams.

[@Meeko2689]

The only thing Mick Schumacher har to offer to F1 is his name, if he was good enough he would be driving a Mercedes next year.

[@elzeban]

That doesn’t mean that he is a bad driver. He still can drive like hell. Just look at his WEC results. When he isn’t getting shafted by his own team he can get the results.

[@zsfekete5211]

I think the spreadsheet at 12:15 is misleading. Yes, 200.000 more sales seems "unreachable" for brazil for example, but that's not really possible for germany either. What would be a more important sheet is to add up all the car sales of "audi-calibre". I have no clue, but if for example adding up bmw, lexus, volvo, mercedes, jaguar comes to 300.000 a year in brazil, it might be much more feasible to break into that market. I am pretty sure every german already knows about audi as an option. But brazilians? Again, I have 0 clue. But if merc has a grasp on the brazilian market for example, that could be a way for audi to break that and go from 6000 to 50000 sales for example.

[@TheDeviltech]

Hey, I'm the guy from the spreadsheet. I understand your point now, but there's just one issue. The median income in Argentina is around $199, while in Brazil it's about $1,770. This means a large portion of the population in Argentina can't afford an Audi. Even in Brazil, where the average car price is around $22,000, it's still a significant amount. In Germany, the average car price is $45,000, which can get you an Audi, but $22,000 in Brazil won’t stretch that far. What's interesting is that Audi has about the same number of sales in Brazil as Mercedes, and only BMW sold over 12,000 cars last year. This means that the premium German car market in Brazil, across Audi, Mercedes, and BMW, is around 30,000 cars in total. I wouldn't expect one driver to increase sales by more than 20%, which would be about 1,200 cars in Brazil. Mick Schumacher, for example, could boost sales in Germany by around 1%-that's about 2,000 more cars sold, since Audi moves over 200,000 units there annually. Bortoleto, on the other hand, faces the challenge of Brazil's much smaller market. For him to have a similar impact, he'd need to be performing at an extremely high level, which is unlikely given the size of the market. Plus, there’s the complication of his McLaren contract-there's no guarantee McLaren would let him go, or they could keep him on a tight leash with a clause allowing them to recall him. I hope the Information's helps a little.

[@jessicalieblich8659]

​@@TheDeviltech Thank you for the explanation, I also wasn't quite sure how to read the chart/spreadsheet but now it makes much more sense!

[@GuilleSanchez.answers]

I hope that Colapinto soon gets his deserved seat in F1.

[@callmekodiak]

Mick only got a chance in the first place because of his last name. He didn't deserve the 1st chance and doesn't deserve a 2nd. To be fair, it would be the only 1st and 2nd of his F1 career no matter how long it is.

[@izzdin6228]

I'd rather Mick stay in WEC, regardless of which team he joins. He has shown good pace there, and theres a chance he can win LeMans (under the right circumstances). Plus theres more opportunities in endurance racing now, more than the past decade has shown.

[@Max_Flashheart]

Well to be fair sometimes F1 isn't right for some drivers ie most of them. Brendon Hartley was not great in F1 but thrives in WEC but no one is thinking Hartley will be coming back to F1 with Toyota with Haas are they?

[@Goocoocachoo]

Having a good personality is never reason enough for a seat. Let’s all face facts; Mick isn’t Michael and at this point he isn’t even Ralf. Time to move on

[@elzeban]

Have you seen his results in WEC??? He maybe not his father but he still is fast.

[@sezniteowl5398]

​@@elzeban The people that are hypocrites look at only the negatives of Mick and always wish for his downfall. Mick is indeed one hell of a driver, he can be great with the right people behind him.

[@meatstack]

Hi from after COTA. Did you catch that Schumacher was driving hot laps at COTA this weekend?

[@LawVS]

Makes sense since he has driven there recently in race capacity and he is Mercedes reserve driver.

[@procatprocat9647]

Check your logic!! Rubbish drivers have been given seats for marketing reasons for decades. That's true. However, bad practices that already exist, should never justify their encouragement and acceptance. F1 should strive to employ the best drivers in the world, not languish in mediocrity for marketing reasons. Its almost like you've given up with F1 improving as a sport and an industry.

[@Frostbyte-Game-Studio]

well that is a valid point

[@takumifujiwara13954]

So you're saying get rid of poor teams?

[@procatprocat9647]

@takumifujiwara13954 absolutely not. RedBull employes Perez and Tsunoda purely because they're marketing machines. They aren't a poor team. The ethos needs to change if F1 wants to continue to be regarded as the pinnacle of motorsports. The attitude of the youtuber in this video is one of defeat, rather than striving to improve the sport/industry. Nepotism and all forms of discrimination should be pushed out. Drivers should be employed for their driving ability and not for any other reason, such as who their daddy is, which government applies pressure to F1, or for advertising benefit. That's how equality of opportunity is achieved in this life.

[@sainyamkumar2406]

​@@procatprocat9647Well said. As much as I love Law's videos, this one was utter crap

[@procatprocat9647]

@sainyamkumar2406 Law is often full of sh1t, but this was too much bull for me. I've unsubscribed. There are much better F1 journalists out there (actually, putting Law in the pool of F1 journalists is harsh on the real ones)

[@sezniteowl5398]

For all the Mick haters saying "He crashes the car blah blah blah", yes he did crash the car but in WEC. He was only involved in one incident which was not that serious and he was able to keep going in that race and the times he did DNF'd in WEC were due to mechanical failures, yes, Hypercars and Formula 1 cars are two completely different animals but I think Mick has become a much better driver plus he was the fastest driver for Alpine in the 36 car and scored a podium at Fuji.

[@aaronsorensen5165]

Colopinto already deserves that seat more than Mick.

[@aprilkurtz1589]

Vowels said it. He's not special. He has a famous last name, that's it. Leave Mick in endurance, please.

[@the_unstable_gay9633]

I really want Mick on the grid, he deserves a second chance

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

He doesn't. He had more time than most drivers to prove himself and he failed.

[@noahcoast]

@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 I think you are wrong. He had one year in one of the worst cars in the modern era and in his second season was beating kmag. At least in the second half of the season. Mick had multiple horribly unlucky races and scuffed strategies. He crashed more than usual. But we have seen that happen with young talents pushing for the extra bit. They will lose that tendency after a while. And kmags pole position manipulated the narrative way to much

[@guneytopal1713]

Why? Because of his father and nothing more. He is not F1 level so if you want him on the grid then don’t cry about Stroll, Ocon, etc

[@dranzerbankai7660]

He was too crash prone at Haas if anyone deserves a seat it's Colapinto

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

@@noahcoast Oh, knock it off with that "bad car" argument already. Plenty of drivers made their debut driving cars that were complete garbage and did much better than he ever did. Admit it, you only say that because of his last name.

[@iazy47]

You know to solve seat problem in f1, just add 1 team on grid

[@c.l.8213]

I really wish F1 had 12 teams. There's enough talent and money out there for 2 more teams.

[@procatprocat9647]

Great surname and a nice guy, but he's not F1 standard. Give it a rest !!!

[@motelghost477]

100% agree.

[@hattorihaso2579]

He is though

[@procatprocat9647]

@hattorihaso2579 Mick is an inspired F1 crasher, an inspired slow learner and an inspiring surname. Try to be objective, rather than just a fanboi

[@weybye91]

​@@hattorihaso2579when did he show he deserves a seat?

[@hattorihaso2579]

@@weybye91 by winning f2 and multiple times during his f1 stint

[@billsimpson1085]

Sorry, he doesn’t. When we have more talented drivers that don’t have a seat? Nope.

[@karrde593]

I never thought much about mick, the same as any driver that gets pushed by the paddock with no results… but him at Audi as another Yuki tier driver? Okay, okay I approve :)

[@superkubus-nk8lb]

Mick crashed a lot, was worse than kmag and kmag was destroyed by hulk. If his name wasn't MSC, but anything else no one would care, the same as no one cares for zhou now, or doesn't care for Giovanazzi, Sirotkin, Kvyat, or Ericsson. Mick might be good in other cathegories, but he wasn't that good in f1, and no team actually taking him since then is kinda showing that no-one with actual data is seeing him as an option

[@tigerpjm]

Can we stop it with Mick Schumacher? It isn't happening.

[@lordhenrywotton95]

I haven’t seen anything from Mick’s two seasons in F1 that makes him a slam dunk for the seat, possibly less than Colapinto has shown in his quarter season at Williams.

[@valdemarjrgensen8072]

Outperformed by kmag and very expensive in crashes. I can't really see it happening

[@martinavery3979]

Bortoleto isn't just the Brazilian market, he's the Latin American market. The WEC spec suits Mick, he should stay their & go for it

[@steeldrac]

Mick on Alfa Romeo might have triggered the comeback of Giovinazzi instead of a longer career in F1

[@elzeban]

Either way that would have been better than what we got

[@yt_Ajay_]

I can't tell if LawVS enjoys or struggles saying "Valtteri Bottas"

Mick has had ample opportunity to show his worth and what he showed is that he can't handle pressure. The higher the pressure, the more expensive the crash.

[@elzeban]

Yes…. That’s how pressure works on all drivers. The more the pressure the higher the risk of crashing. Even the most legendary drivers will crack with pressure. I don’t really see your point.

@@elzeban The point is that he got said pressure get one over him. Even average drivers, or any professional for that matter, knows that buckling to the pressure is what makes you fail. If you can't handle it, change jobs.

[@elzeban]

If you mean the 2022 season then yes he did crack under that pressure but that pressure was not just coming from within but from the team, and as far as I know, they didn’t support him and Steiner didn’t help either. He himself stated that he was too hard on the kid. In the WEC series he shown that he has great overtaking skills and great leader skills. I think he has grown over 2023 and 2024 in WEC and shown that he can handle the return to F1.

[@richardwood9177]

He might be a late bloomer. But 200+ F1 drives. No.

[@Shifty_Malone]

Mick will do good along side Hulkenburg.

[@weybye91]

No he won't he will make us wish they picked Magnussen

[@OoVECTORMANoO]

Mick's an half decent driver but lets face it he ain't his dad, he ain't even on his uncles level. I've nothing against the kid and personally I think his dad was one of the best to ever do it but the Schumacher name and Mick's personality just isn't enough on their own. Also theres multiple other young drivers that would potentially make better candidates for an f1 seat.

[@getthecats]

Stop trying to make mick happen

[@NemXX2]

I'm with you Law. There are lots of haters though. I saw potential there and they need someone for the future and that is not Hulk. He really deserved a chance on Mercedes. I am not on the Antonelli train.

[@Foxvalleyproduction]

Those 2 drivers got Gunther fired? LoL

[@psycho_O]

He doesn't, he had 2 seasons and he didn't cut it, good luck to him in other categories but f1 isn't for him

[@aquila5115]

Bottas deserves that sauber seat more than any of the other contenders

[@FieryDawn]

Just so you know, Mick has ...not good stats in F1 Manager, so it might not prove your point... I did the same (created a 11th team and put Mick in), unfortunately he is done dirty by the devs.

[@zakariamohamadzin]

listen remember how jensen button win wolrd title in new team. image same happen with kick and mick schumacher that will be epic tale. by the way i follow mick since f3 and i believe if he with right team and right boss nothing impossible.

[@mattfantastic9969]

"Steady the ship" Schumacher is the champ of ripping cars I'm half... Ain't nothing steady

[@scottyskydog]

To have to fight for a seat for Mick and zero results should speak volumes about Micks ability.

[@richardwood9177]

Mick as reserve at Audi could make sense. But go race WEC as a regular gig. Full time in F1? Not now.

[@m1nhhoang]

Mick actually had 3 shots of a podium so far in WEC, unlucky he got only the 3rd time.

[@himax000]

Haas abandoned Mick's Strategy in 2022 completely not just the upgrades in all those last 5 or so races

[@antoniovarandas1698]

THEO POURCHAIR 😭😭

[@IBlameItOnMyYouth]

If he had any other name than Schuhmacher we wouldn't even be speaking about him. I'd love to have a German back at F1 but he should just make a name for himself in endurance racing because at least he can make a name for himself there and wouldn't just be the less successful son of a generational talent and icon of the sport.

[@dcvanta]

I thought the thumbnail said Audio Bust

[@bruhbruhbruh5675]

Wasn't the recent Pirelli tyre test a show of inequivalence? Mick was more than 10 seconds off of George Russell's pace, no? idk if Mick will stand a chance. Though, it could be my pessimistic POV. Don't get me wrong, I want him to succeed, but I am in doubt of his ability.

[@katy4523]

I'm skeptical. I kind of hope he blazes his own path and finds success in endurance racing.

[@Slumdankin1123]

Law do you really think if Franco sits at Williams for two years as a reserve driver he's going to get that seat in 2027? Use your brain! Drugovich and Theo are the last two champions and have sat one year and two years. And they are all but forgotten about when it comes to real talks about an f1 seat! If Franco or Gabriel sits as a reserve driver for a year while they are sitting some young new talented prospect is going to make waves and win races and be the new version of the years Franco and Gabriel. In f1 you can't afford to sit on the sideline as a reserve driver. If there is a seat you take it and you beat your teammate! Even if that team is the worst team if you are beating your teammate in qualifying and races consistently that your talent can shine!

[@lucianosiciliano2439]

You mean like Colapinto do right now with albon? Do you realize that even doing that doesn't guarantee you anything?

[@tmg2315]

(Not hating) I understand that everyone has their favorites, but Mick ain't it, If Mick was worthy of a F1 seat, then why didnt toto put him in the mercedes, and would you really put Mick in the sauber over Colapinto? I wouldnt, Honestly i would put Kubica in before Mick

[@DeathBlocks]

Toto not putting Mick in for next year is entirely different. Kimi is potentially an amazing driver, and there is a difference between a driver who is good enough for a Mercedes seat and the worst team on the grid

[@tmg2315]

@DeathBlocks Key word there is potentially, but i agree, people forget that not only did haas drop mick, but ferarri did too, they could of put him in their hypercar program like they did with Giovinazzi but they didn't, that says alot, and when mick joined Mercedes, Toto slammed ferrari and haas saying that if he was in charge, he would have given mick a seat. Well, now he's in charge, and he didn't give him a seat, I like mick, but he gets a pass in many peoples eyes for being average at best, probably because of his father and what happened to him

[@DeathBlocks]

@@tmg2315 the part about Ferrari is quite a good point. I still think him criticizing them is different, saying Haas should've kept him or Ferrari should have done more to get him another seat is still not saying yeah lets put him in when we are going to get Kimi in 2026 anyway and are in a tight fight at the top.

[@tmg2315]

@DeathBlocks I hope Mercedes aren't setting Antonelli up to fail because i haven't been impressed with him so far but that doesnt mean I'm against him, now he's being thrown into the deep end and expected to swim (which some can), i just dont think he's ready for that seat, especially since they turned down Sainz, basically saying Antonelli is better in their eyes, that already raised the bar of expectations on him

[@DeathBlocks]

@@tmg2315 yeah me too, I think they would've preferred to only get him in 2026 but yeah. I might be wrong but from I remember they didn't turn down Sainz but just gave him a one year deal which he understandably doesn't want? And that does make sense from their side.

[@adammurphy6651]

If you think Mick's been hard done by, how sorry must you feel for Vandoorne? He was booted after two seasons for not being level with a double WDC, after having a much better junior career and rookie F1 season than Mick. F1's cutthroat, if any other team thought he was good enough he'd already be on the grid

[@AKACitizan101]

1st. Audi need to get to the top of F1 - ASAP. 2nd Audi need to turn this sinking ship, which is Sauber around to do so. 3rd Unless I’m mistaken they Audi have a shite load of money so you can rule out any paid driver. So. Who would be the best driver to do so. I (have changed my mind about car sales)and having Audi on F1 is enough- for now. The word is experience. All these young guys are tripping over to get this seat - and more so their minders are BS ing, kissing arse and waving the trending “ROOKIE” around to make that happen. If I was Audi management Again - the word is experience For the next 2 years (contract) it’s one in three drivers. Bottas knows Sauber best - multiple race winner with the Mercs. Schumacher while all of the above maybe a positive trait - he in that seat is a huge gamble and it does go pair shape that failure could and would bring down Audi and the the big names who put them there. - that is nuts. Open minded / unbiased / using the word experience- would it not be a wise opinion to put Ricciardo in that seat. His experience with Redbull , McLaren and even the recent trials and tribulations with RB is what Audi needs the most - besides he and Nico worked well together at Renault. Or Bottas (lesser) with his experience with Mercedes- as it is them who Audi are trying to surpass. But with that- he and they should be well advanced on that topic- but it appears that are not. To Audi - do not short this trip to the top of F1. It’s a race in one. Be wise not stupid - it will take several years to surpass RedBull Mercedes Ferrari and even Aston Martin who are miles ahead you guys and will be for the foreseeable future

[@Peppeblackmetal]

Enough with Mick Schumacher, he ain't good, if it wasn't for his name he would have never driven in F1.

[@kojiroh30]

Just like his uncle, Mick will be compared to his dad forever if he stay as a racing driver. I hope he can bare that comparison.

[@aoife1122]

You're right, Formula 1 is all about de money... and having a veritable wrecking ball in your car can't be good for the bottom line. Mick Schumacher topped the F1 World Destructor's Championship in 2021 (he even made Mazepin look good that year) and in 2023, racking up repair bills to the tune of 9 million dollars. The sad truth is, he's got no business behind the wheel of an F1 car.

[@bubblewrapvillain]

I agree with Vowles. Mick isn't special.

[@scottyskydog]

If he can make Audi a competitive team, tell me why he failed at Ferrari?

[@rms-vp6hf]

Why? If he had the talent it would be unquestionable, and he’d have a top seat. Instead, Sargent, Zhou, Perez, KMag, and a few more all got seats and not him.

[@gregmarcus3064]

He had his shot and he blew it. Hate to say it but being Michaels son is a gargantuan mountain to climb to be at least worthy of habing his name. He will always be compared and he will always fall short because that is legend level air.

[@natelecarde962]

If Mick goes I could see Victor Martins replacing him at Alpine.

[@richardwood9177]

Just because you’re good in F2 & F3 doesn’t mean you can cut it in F1. Crashing at the first corner? Go drive WEC. Mick can continue as a reserve driver for Audi or Alpine. Is he better than Ricciardo? No! And Ricciardo is better than Bottas. I sense a changing of the guard but with some speed humps on the way. I think that the drivers coming through F2 & F3 right now just aren’t Piastri. Too much talk about the new regs. Who is going to steer them?

[@JasonAtlas]

Honestly Mick is really underrated. He's up their with the Aston Martin championship calibur driver Lance stroll. Astin Martin 2025. The prophecy foretold.

[@robloxbedwarsreports4752]

Does he make podcasts?