Micro Decisions Make Hearthstone a Better Game

[@DarkWidget]

I really like this type of content. You can also included a game at the end (preferbly off stream) where you're explaining your thought patterns and the different choices you make and what you base your final decision on, so to give most people an easier time to understand how this is all applied in practice! :)

[@nujumkey]

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[@emir2591]

Then it would make it a Kripp video, but okay

[@DarkWidget]

Emir Bilgili LOL didnt notice the similarity but no, not quite, Kripp just takes a random game he found interesting and talks about it a little bit. Reynad was talking specifically about this deck and how it should be/he plays it. The difference in depth is huge since the point of it is for Reynad to in-depth explain decisions he makes in game in order to teach the viewer and make them understand. Kripp usually just says how powerful or RNG something is! xD See it as a kind of a guide, now Kripp sure as hell doesn't do guides! xD

[@AhahahaFail]

So a Kripp video ?

[@DarkWidget]

Isaac Vitullo Read my above comment :)

[@samuelabreu4349]

I'm a simple man, I see a MTG card in the thumbnail, I watch

[@KyleSmith-eo3bq]

same

[@dodde216]

yup!

[@alexanderjohansson3331]

Same

[@powerinooverwhelmerinokrip7981]

wait this wasnt about magic?

[@undeadnightorc]

If this were a kripp video it would end with a 20 minute game in which only 2 minutes of it actually had something to do with topic discussed.

[@alfrederdogan5532]

Kripp doesn't know what he's talking about tho

[@jenniferneumann706]

He'd just say something like "Turns out micro decisions are preeeetty good" ^^

[@kevinlopez9047]

damn

[@switchingtime]

+OfficiallyLostFaithInHumanity 69 I'm not a huge fan of Kripp but he definitely knows what he's talking about. If he didn't he wouldn't be one of the best arena players around right now.

[@rmn9539]

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[@VieneLea]

Wow. When I started looking beyond all the salt, Reynad started looking really thoughtful and interesting.

[@paptimusscirocco8033]

you gotta look really hard tho, its a really thick layer of salt.

[@ODDnanref]

I am not surprised he has all that salt considering he comes from an MTG background. There chance cards and random effects where lost a long time ago. Everything is mainly under your control so skill is really important. Which makes people frustrated more by top decks and also makes them more competitive. Of course there are several exceptions, like commander players and casual players.

[@ArborusVitae]

And then there's duel commander with the French banlist.

[@VieneLea]

ODDnanref I used to play M:tG and I don't mind randomness of Hearthstone at all. In fact, I'd say it was a lot worse in Magic (mana screw was by far the most frustrating in the game). Randomness typically makes games more interesting in HS (except in some extreme situations, such as Tuskarr + Totem Golem).

[@anarcyangel]

Most mana problems are solved by having the correct amount of Lands in a deck, or just taking a little time to pile shuffle.

[@DiVEClam]

First Reynad created Hearthstone, then he created Zoo, now he created Arcane Warrior? He's literally the goat

[@THESOGGYSPONGE]

Created hearthstone?

[@theparagonal]

+TheSoggySponge Memes.

[@jessekh]

created goat

[@mattosburn5225]

t1 modern goats

[@Yabooo]

We need people like you on the Blizzard design team. Right now, Blizzard is focusing only on players that enjoy Hearthstone as a casual game. While this is completely fine, there needs to be some sort of balance, just as they did with WoW. In WoW, you can still hardcore PvE while casuals players still get their taste of PvE that they're satisfied with. This should be so in Hearthstone as well. Blizzard has been focusing so much on the casual "fun" side of Hearthstone that they're completely ignoring players like Reynad and myself who would enjoy a more complex decision making game. #ReynadForHearthstoneDesign

[@axy3607]

Its not that they are trying to make the game more casual, its that they want the game to be easier so that it appeals to new players so that they make more money.

[@inger2327]

well said abe

[@CoolDrummer572]

Being a magic player for about 8 years i do miss the instants and sorcery spells and being able to counter other players spells on there turn. now granted mage has counter spell but thats is. i digress but i agree there needs to be a balance. and he devs need look at the more competitive side as well.

[@Skumtomten1]

The sad truth about capitalism is that the developers will always aim to maximize their income. Blizzard is a huge company and will try to aim for casuals since they are simply the biggest crowd in gaming. Starcraft 2 died mainly because the game was too difficult for the average player. I think they are trying to do the opposite tactic this time and making the game really simple and it seems like it was a successfull move atleast in terms of bussines. There are other companies that aim for the more experience crowd but they usually dont have as much resources and cant provide as good of a system, graphic and animations like Blizzard. If the game gets too complex the majority of the crowd will leave and thus will result in less revenue.

[@Midgar88]

I think they use RNG because its an easy fix. They are not bothering to balance or try some strong cards and seem to add fillers. The expansion had a nice tone to it but too much rng still imo.

[@ryukenxx2]

When you put Ponder next to tracking it looks fucking busted, holy shit.

[@DeityBladeGaming]

mana works differently- 1 mtg mana =/= 1 hearthstone mana

[@theparagonal]

+DeityBlade Gaming Though, Ponder is fucking busted.

[@ThatWunGroup]

The kind of blue deck where you play slow you really need that early mana, and 1 mana is much more valuable in mtg.

[@o7o7o7o7o7]

Ponder's banned in Modern and is very heavily played in Legacy. The card is really fucking good.

[@KarstenOkk]

+DeityBlade Gaming 1 MTG mana is already worth more than 1 Hearthstone Mana, and then 1 specifically colored MTG mana is worth a ton more than 1 Hearthstone Mana.

[@ryboits75]

The audio seems a little de-synced, its about a half second behind the visuals. Its really noticeable around 1:40 onward

[@xIBranzz]

thank god i didnt read this comment before i watched

[@Tullekunstner]

Just saw this comment 8 mins in.... fuck you!

[@lost-one]

..What?

[@Midgar88]

Working fine for me

[@Wylade]

yeah it's visibly desynced

[@holydush]

The problem is Hearthstone dev teams' idea of fun seems to be playing shit like Yogg-Saron and Firelands Portal.

[@ZEGTHEFISH]

I like though cards. Although rng it encourages slower decks

[@GabeTheLegendary]

To be fair, there are a lot of people that enjoying playing yogg. But Reynad has a good point, it doesn't feel good to lose a game knowing that you played better than your opponent. Rng is tilting sometimes, but that's hearthstone.

[@KarstenOkk]

Yogg absolutely has a place in the game but it should by no means be a card that wins you tournaments. That shit's retarded.

[@Konde1]

People like Yogg, I don't mind it, but I hate losing to it as someone who has never played a yogg decl

[@MrMithfin]

Because this type of randomness is basically gambling. And gambling is addictive. Creating something addictive which is not regulated and can by distributed to consumers of any age is the dream come true for any company.

[@benjaminadler2001]

I think Raven Idol embodies this perfectly. You're usually going to go for a spell, but there are really nuanced decisions involved with choosing minion or spell.

[@TheKillingFloor15]

Over 90% of the time it's spell, the choice comes when you get three spells that are not spectacular but are good in different situations

[@rarpott]

+Meelo I've seen someone in a tournament go for Turn 1 Raven Idol Minion. The option is still there, it's just that it's too much of a headache to consider minion when spell is usually the better choice.

[@KarstenOkk]

Since spell will always give you a choice of three class cards, which are almost always better than neutral cards, spells are the better bet.

[@KP-by4eu]

No spell is picked more often because raven idol is used in Yogg or spell/token based decks. If it's run in a minion/board based deck, it's much more reliable to just include better minions as opposed to raven idol.

[@ConstantineIII]

Typically in arena you go for a big minion early on unless you need a board clear, so there's that really nice dichotomy there too. Really nice observation, the more I think about it the more I like the card design of raven idol.

[@EMETRL]

the majority of players don't even play ranked very much, let alone get past rank 20. They enjoy the game for its simplicity, but if Blizzard released these complicated micro/macro decision-based cards, the casual players wouldn't be discouraged at all. They just wouldn't play those cards and stick with what they know. Reynad, I think you've touched on a really important topic that Blizzard doesn't think about very much. Great video man.

[@rkochamp07]

I stopped playing ranked past 20 becuase i got tired of the fact that every other deck i faced was zoolock or aggro shaman

[@sleep3417]

i went to rank 10 and it was an aidsfest

[@simongroot5246]

+rkochamp07 It's not any more, and you can counter that with control decks like warrior

[@omologo95]

+Simon Groot ah burnt taco said, literally aids.

[@asl4nsgr4c3]

Totally agree. Casual players would just see a complicated card and ignore it and go back to what they like playing.

[@McGliga]

I love you Andrey

[@Rp707]

reynad*

[@TheYungDyrude]

noodle doodle dandy*

[@HammerspaceCreature]

Patron meta was no joke my favourite period in hearthstone. Yes, 50%+ of my matches were mirrors, but in most of those games if I played better, I actually won, it was fucking great.

[@CreamyPesto505]

That was also probably the most diverse meta as well. There were so many viable decks across all classes.

[@Pandan3D]

yeah diverse if you mean patron vs. patron yea pretty diverse lmao. mongoloid patron players.

[@NadaRobin]

Diverse because patron shit on all the aggro decks. Since patron was so common, aggro decks were played a lot less, and anyone decent at hearthstone knows that aggro/fast decks are mostly what hold a lot of interesting decks down. With less aggro, more interesting decks started to come out of the woodwork and created a more diverse meta. That's why after patron got nerfed, the meta became super stale again.

[@9kay]

There was something for everyone, I was playing handlock which just shat on patron, fun times...

[@goldenayaka]

Now we're back to having almost all decks being a variation of tempo or aggro and the meta is trash again.

[@jingiz]

In MTG you have TIME to take your turns. In Hearthstone there is only so much micro decision you can make in 90 seconds. Look at Patron Warrior roping every turn and with long animations.. MISSING PLAYS because there was no time left....

[@nolle]

true, sadly most people have zero patience. That's also why aggro decks are super popular.

[@TimSKarlsson]

are u telling me that there wouldnt be people who go in to a game and go afk till the enemy concedes? fucking ofc u need a timelimit man

[@briankishi8140]

+nolle the reason aggro is popular is because it's cheaper than control or mid range

[@ArborusVitae]

That's why MTGO has a match/game time limit instead of a time limit per turn. This means you have time on the turns where you need it, but still have a constraint to work under. Granted, you can multi-queue in MTGO and play multiple games at once, so people AFKing is less of an issue.

[@Mant111]

Sound like an excuse. 90 seconds are more than enough to make micro decisions, in fact people would start thinking already during the opponents turn instead of waiting for their own.

[@myname-de2oy]

one day hearthstone will actually be a skill based game

[@NecromanciPottamus]

And one day you'll realize how silly your comment is.

[@Davidvp]

It will never be, Blizzard as usual will continue to cater to the casual crowd as it has always done in hs or wow.

[@jamesbrenneman3147]

Coming from a filthy casual

[@NecromanciPottamus]

dantedero I'm curious as to why you think this is at all intended for hardcore players in the first place.

[@Davidvp]

NecromanciPottamus Because the reason hs is so easy and simple is to keep its huge playerbase. Many hardcore tcg players like complexity and strategy (more like Magic or even ESL for example), but HS isn't going that road. It's a simple and fun game for anybody to pick up and that's what Blizzard wants. It's been a few years since HS came out and that's what they have been doing and very successfully.

[@singami465]

Hearthstone is a children's card game. Magic is a man's card game.

[@JeeCistion]

Children are virgins too! (Usually)

[@Kocke95]

+Joren K. Whats the relevance in that lol

[@xIBranzz]

Hes just insecure about his virginity

[@jofac22]

Lol they're both for fuckin nerds

[@emilydasilva8316]

Hearthstone will never be as good as MTG because it's too casual =]]

[@emirinobambino]

Discover is one of the best mechanics to have ever been introduced to Hearthstone. It causes players to think, and be rewarded for thinking; additionally, it utilities a system in which digital card games can only access.

[@compassionateconservative1862]

What magic has and HS does not is a logical balanced combat system. In Magic minion has summon sickness and the defending picks battle, while HS has summon sickness but attacker picks battles. This means that the game is center about board control and board clears. HS took the bad part of the magic and the bad part of Yu-Gi-Oh.

[@dandandy1863]

haha :D Well put

[@stev019]

Hey, Reynoodle. We played last night. You were Hunter and I was Control Warrior. Naturally, you bopped me. You have me permanently banned in your chat for saying that a deck is bad if it loses to mct. That's fine. Just wasn't able to say GG's after our game. GGs.

[@sadsheep]

FeelsBadMan

[@brycejunkinz]

haHAA

[@browmbabyboy]

unless the warrior had all golden cards it probally wasn't reynad there are a thousand different acounts named reynad

[@MrCore1337]

LUL

[@jackfink338]

+matt a probably was watching the stream and saw e was playing against him

[@syndicatebeast]

as a mtg player i agree 100%. alot of effects from magic could really benefit hearthstone as a game

[@azerim2039]

Enchantments would be nice in HS.

[@syndicatebeast]

yes and more different creature types, tribals are the most fun in mtg :D

[@MisterCoolman29]

They should just add counterspells, Ancestral Knowledge and Time Walk, I think Hearthstone would be perfect then, lol.

[@Vanguard187]

You're Reynad back? where is reynad front?

[@kevinlemieux4138]

Can we make this a meme

[@Regenerd]

no

[@KarstenOkk]

EleGiggle FORCED EleGiggle MEMES EleGiggle

[@Vanguard187]

+Schopenhauer HELL YEAH. let the powers of Dillon UNITE. I HAVE THE POWER!

[@Casualbystander]

+Dillon Lee Alright woah calm down Dillon.

[@gktdqhksjjs-gkuukz3206]

I love magic so much more but its way to expensive for me. sad life

[@TlatoaniItzcoatl]

ditto.

[@adambillen5164]

Pauper?

[@gktdqhksjjs-gkuukz3206]

+Adam Billen but pauper is not as fun as normal. while it is fun, u don't get access to as many cool cards which is a huge advantage magic has on most card games.

[@TlatoaniItzcoatl]

wasn't even aware of this. i'll give it a try.

[@adambillen5164]

+Louis Moenne-Loccoz Well depending on the format you play pauper cam have a much more diverse meta. I play pauper and commander because they are the most diverse and budget friendly formats in the game. You would be surprised by how diverse card selection is.

[@Jmvars]

This is why I love playing Freeze Mage and Mill Rogue. A lot of it goes planning your turns carefully and thinking a few turns ahead.

[@alfrederdogan5532]

Agreed, Miracle rogue as well. A lot of shit can go down when you play auctioneer.

[@KP-by4eu]

No offense miracle rogue is nothing compared to freeze/mill rogue. It'd be at 4-5 in terms of difficult 1-10. But even mill is not too complex. I find mill rogue is only difficult against aggro/early game decks, in which case you're so heavily unfavored that even if you didn't make any mistakes, you'd probably still lose anyways. Against midrange and ofc control decks, mill rogue is like a walk in the park.

[@ARaider510]

Lol you make it sound as if freeze mage were the hardest thing to play. Playing regular ass control warrior takes more thought then freeze mage. The only deck that has come out of HS that took any brain to do, at least correctly, was Patron Warrior.

[@KP-by4eu]

You clearly have played neither well. Control warrior is not that much harder than any midrange decks in the past(combo druid, muster pally, ...) In fact, control warrior has only 1 objective. single removal or brawl when you've given up and stall until late game. In midrange, at least you have to realize when to push for damage and when to push for board. Freeze mage on the other hand requires thinking at least 2 turns ahead and constantly deciding whether or not to AOE clear or hold. To say CW is more difficult than freeze shows you know nothing. And ofc everyone knows patron was the hardest deck.

[@ARaider510]

+Khoi Pham lol are you kidding me? First of all, I said no decks were hard to play. Second of all, CW is much more then just single removal and brawl when you've given up. Let me just put you in your place real quick... You can fill you're head up with whatever made up difficulties you have to playing FM but it's not real. When you play FM you play to the cards in your hand. You play with the knowledge of what deck you're playing against and what they're typical next play is. It's literally that easy. It's not a hard deck to play just because you lose to decks that are bad match ups. It's a hard deck to play when literally even the slightest missplay or missuse can mean the difference between winning and losing. Playing Miracle Rogue, you have to play with cards that aren't in your hand. If going for the FoK just for cycle is worth it. If the burst in hand is enough to go for a 2 or even 3 turn kill. Lastly, CW is ONE OF the hardest to play well. If you had just watched the video, you'd know how much thought goes into every turn and how much you have to micromanage almost every card and even more so in mirror matches. Playing CW well is knowing when the precise moment brawling will break your opponent. Knowing if that execute is okay to use on an Azure Drake because you know you can deal with a bigger threat later on or if you hold it for a bigger threat. Warrior has 3 direct removals. Brawl, Execute and Shield Slam. It hold a different purpose Vs every archetype it plays against and misusing just those could mean a world of difference. Just because the little forums you go to want to say how hard a deck is to pilot doesn't make it true. There are only maybe 2 or 3 decks that are actually "hard" to pilot with the rest being mostly easy. But go on, continue believing your dear Freeze Mage is hard to play because you lose to "brain dead" Control Warriors at rank 12.

[@kissmyrra2030]

it is good see you in a rational mode and not in a salty one haha

[@WimpyMcWeaksauce]

I believe most pro Hearthstone players would secretly rather play Magic. But Hearthstone pays so much better, and it actually has bearable online play. I think Kibler said something to this effect a while back.

[@TheHerrscher1]

This is the kind of videos for which I love Reynad. Don't get me wrong, I love the drama and salt, but these videos just show a level of insight seen in very few people. Keep up the good work Reynad!

[@SirLUW]

The answer to this is very simple, hearthstone decks have only 30 cards so the micro-interactions have to be kept to the smallest amount as possible, articulated micro-interactions have sense when there are a lot of cards in the deck so that they may become efficient in the long term as well, as long as hearthstone will be a 30 card deck system this will continue to exist

[@kingrat2718]

The good old days

[@kiteme1141]

You make some very good points, I agree.

[@toastybowl]

11:21 🛰️ coming back in 2021 to listen to this clip - professor's slideshow quote

[@Lizarius]

Oh hey. An in-depth explanation of why I love discover so much. Didn't know how to put it before, so nicely done with this

[@lordofthingstube]

Losing to yourself is much better than losing the high rolls its the reason that I hate the pokemon tcg

[@Thefallenfacer]

It's really curious and awesome how most hearthstone pro players are great minds, they can talk about a card of the game or some mechanic and make a 10+ min video talking about it, giving opinions and making the community active, just great.

[@tachiiderp]

Out of all the discover cards, Ivory knight is probably the most versatile out of the bunch. Too bad Paladin has quite a bit of subpar Spells in Standard as opposed to like, almost every other class.

[@jacobs398]

Priest should have gotten Ivory Knight.

[@bishop8958]

+Jacob S you, are completely right, that would solve a lot of problems with priest.

[@BrianDeBrain_]

Holy crap. Ivory Knight into Mind Control.

[@Silk_Underwear]

Or forbidden healing

[@Melphisto_]

+Bishop Munoz all of thr substantial paladin heal cards made in recent memory probably could've just gone to Priest tbh... actually maybe forbidden healing can stay with paladin, idk.

[@MrTwessel30]

Having a lot of fun with this deck, I wouldn't say I'm highly skilled at the game but decks like this help me broaden my thinking

[@primroan5354]

As someone who has never played a card game before Hearthstone, I find these videos interesting. Would not mind more of them.

[@Yasherets]

Love these videos man. You're honestly the only Hearthstone content creator who has a chance of having your talking videos be more popular than Kripp's. Keep it going!

[@HollowGolem]

I think the most important point is what it feels like to lose. I have lost too many times to Rag Roulette, or Barnes pulling a high-impact card on turn three, or just drawing a deck in reverse. But every time I lose where I see obvious mistakes I made that might have turned things around, it stings a little less. It allows you to say "well, I have control over this. I can be smarter next time, and that won't happen." You feel like you're learning, getting better.

[@stev019]

I like your idea of including more micro. After playing control long enough, the macro gets a lot easier and the decks all start to feel the same a bit. I gotta say that the decks like miracle rogue, murloc paladin, and otk warrior (either your variant you made or the worgen variant) all have this really interesting mish mash of having to consider micro and macro at the same time. One of the most fun matches I've had in months was murloc pally vs that otk arcane giant deck you made. I lost because of fatigue but it was an absolutely stellar game.

[@Hania102]

I enjoy these kinds of commentary, that analysis the current situation. For example what is fun and not fun, or difficult/simple and whether this is a good thing or how the player experience could be be improved or expanded.

[@diverger00]

Long time watcher of Stream and Follower of KZbin channel and I just wanted to say that I really like the direction of this video as far as content for the channel and really hope to see more, I find your insight on the game and card design to be extremely interesting and its nice not to have the trolls interrupt every constructive thing you have to say. So awesome work man! Hope to see more.

[@kylewilliams6408]

I've never really watched Reynad before, but because I follow Trump, Kripp, and Amaz on YT, this video came across my recommended page. Title got my attention and was very happy with this content. Will keep my eyes open for more Reynad, thanks.

[@emilviuff2514]

One aspect that people often don't think about is charge. Charge (haste) works well in games like MTG cause you decide if you take the damage. Either you take it cause you don't have minions OR you can CHOOSE to block it if needed. Without the chance to assign blockers and adding the randomness of drawing/using a taunt makes charge undercosted. MTG also got it right with how they make categories. Making everything played count as spells makes a lot more sense. The difference is the function and how long it sticks around. Would make it a lot easier to balance out control aspects rather than vague removal and shit secrets that can't be designed well due to this. It's gotten to a point in HS where the better player has a harder time winning by using knowledge because availability and unequal equality is in focus. HS, as of right now, are punishing good and skilled players for making a deck that reflects this knowledge by constantly reminding us that the game is not about being reactive anymore. Reactive gameplay (yeah - priest) is often what shows the better player, but also becomes frustrating for the casuals. Hence why they pushed active gameplay. Not interactive. The clusterfuck we have now is not interactive. Interactive would let both styles exist and let it be up to the better player.

[@DieEnteable]

Good thinking, I agree. It's also easier to put complex cards into HS without being off-putting for casuals because the game engine auto-resolves the turns with no rule checking or whatever beeing needed. One thing I hated about Yu Gi Oh (played online on DuelingNetwork a few years back where you had to manually resolve turns) was that I had to read what felt like pages and pages of card text to understand what my opponent's cards where even doing, the turns took forever and there where 100 different actions within the first few turns, so I stopped playing. Because hearthstone doesn't have any instant speed cards (or trap cards or whatever), you can just sit back and relax and wait for your opponent to finish and then act accordingly to the final board state when it switches over to your turn.

[@Sammysapphira]

There's a program called YugiohPro and it automatically sequences the game mechanics, if you still care about YGO at all. It's what let me get into the game because I agree playing Dueling Network was overwhelming when I had to sit there for 5 minutes asking my opponent what they were doing.

[@DieEnteable]

benblue3 Thanks. No, I think it's gotten too complicated for me to care about. I stopped playing when they started with the insectorz and all these X/Y/Z and Synchro Stuff.

[@Sammysapphira]

DieEnteable You'd probably hate Pendulum Summon haha

[@MichaelGagin]

Dear Editor I enjoyed your edit but, my one problem is the slight few millisecond audio recording to video delay. It might have been youtube that has done it but if it happened to be on your end, I would appreciate a more synced up video. Thanks!

[@ThatWunGroup]

This kind of content is great. I would certainly watch more analytical videos like this.

[@Supuhfuzz]

I haven't watched any of Reynads vids before but this was a very cool and eloquently stated message. Favorited.

[@narvoxx]

this video is worth a sub, hope you don't run out of steam for videos like this too fast

[@GosuChoochoo]

I enjoy this format of content a lot. Keep up the good work man!

[@wacco4932]

I love videos like this, and I agree with the points you are making, but I would really like some "rehashed twitch content" I haven't had the chance to hang around in twitch in a while, so I've been watching all of my favorite streamers youtube videos whenever I have the time.

[@wacco4932]

So maybe a second channel for us non-twitch plebs?

[@whatdothlife4660]

Just watch twitch vods.

[@ConstantineIII]

I don't know how many people I speak for, but I love Reynad and honestly don't have time to sit down and watch hours upon hours of his stream. Highlights would be really appreciated.

[@whatdothlife4660]

Constantine III You can skip around in vods. I do it all the time to find Dech Techs from Star City Games Magic tournaments.

[@dyrnwynski]

This is one of the biggest differences between Magic and Hearthstone and I agree it's an area Hearthstone could do a little more in. We don't need anything as complicated as Brainstorm, a card that often gives you over 50 different options for how to resolve it, but just adding more cards that give you 3, 4 or more options, or even any options and more subtle synergies that are powerful. Because every card that gives you a choice means good players win more often, and this can be done without pushing the less experienced out. Discover is a great example of this, you don't have to be a genius to play with discover but a better player will get more out of discover than a weaker one.

[@Godunderscor]

One of these days I'll have to figure out your streaming schedule and pay up. I love your videos, Reynad, keep being cool.

[@jburtson]

I suggest more minion placement mechanics! That would easily explore more micro decisions in a way that would be intuitive and unique to hearthstone!

[@michaellacore]

Really digging these types of videos. Nicely done dude.

[@emmettbrinkmann1618]

A little off topic here, but I think tracking is probably a better card overall for hearthstone, because the lack of shuffle effects just makes it feel like you lock yourself out of the game with ponder/brainstorm effects, which can give you the feel bads when you are being killed. Also, sequencing matters more just because your opponent can interact with your side of the board more mana efficently and at anytime they have mana left. Removal in magic is miles more efficent then hs, and instants make everything complicated. Sorry if this was worded poorly, but I'm not a great writer

[@bonestryke5391]

Love the video Reynad. I always love when you share these types of deeper thoughts on how to improve Hearthstone.

[@Sinthioth]

Please please keep making more videos like this, I love hearing more pro thoughts on the design of the game. I feel like so many players are uninterested in actually critiquing the game, maybe because they are worried about being seen as too complainy, but it's so interesting to hear.

[@MrGravityRebel]

Great vid you always say what no one seems to be thinking or focusing on and I love how carefully you analyze the health of the game

[@wyattcharron1753]

I really enjoyed this "think out loud" content and would like to see more.

[@voxstelarum]

very well explained. Specially for people who is trying to improve they game, like myself. You should keep posting videos like this with an example match to see the your points in practice.

[@dustinevans7484]

Love the new vide Reynad! Definitely keep doing more content like this. I've followed your twitch stream for a couple years now and this video made me sub to your youtube. Keep it up!

[@AlliterationAce]

Great vid! Do more of these, Reynad!

[@benjamin_lee]

5:53 lmao my god he just hates the thought of those RNG cards xD

[@youngthinker1]

The basic rules of Hearthstone prevent some of the more delicate decisions: There isn't targeted discard. (It is important for control or combo match ups to help set up your game plan.) There isn't any controlled spells that can be cast on your opponent's turn. (Forcing an issue on your opponents turn is important. It opens up new possibilities on your next turn.) There are only three zones: deck, hand, and battlefield. Other games have several more. The randomness factor, which makes things more enjoyable casually, prevents more intelligent decision. As far as Magic is concern, there is a randomness base game: Mormir Basic. Costs about ten bucks and you can go HAM on the randomness. To explain, Mormir Basic works off another format, Vanguard, and Mormir is one of those vanguards. His ability lets you pay x mana and discard a card to get a random creature at that cmc. Considering there are 20+ years of magic, that is a ton of different creatures. Have fun!

[@isawadelapradera6490]

There graveyard exists too. Only 2 cards interact with it, one of them is brand new, and both of them belong to an universally considered non-class... but it's there

[@dyrnwynski]

N'zoth and Anyfin Can Happen also care about the "graveyard"

[@isawadelapradera6490]

+Andrew Blank True. I also forgot about doomcaller, stalagg, and feugen, even if their only interaction with the graveyard is only to check for a specific card. And I feel I am missing one or two more cards, through I can't quite put my finger on it.

[@ThisIsMattsLife]

Anyone else get annoyed about the picture on the wall being covered by the Surfboard. Move the Picture Reynad.

[@fatabbot6]

Fuck you Matt

[@stevenwynn646]

+fatabbot6 lol

[@ThisIsMattsLife]

lol

[@itsCheezeh]

Yes! I't was the first thing I noticed

[@kalashnikov1343]

I know dude. omfg someone please give me his address so can go burn his house down

[@serotoninronin]

Really enjoying having more youtube videos. Thanxxx

[@jaxom97]

And we haven't gotten to brainstorm yet I don't you can even count the amount of decisions.

[@gameragedad8953]

Yeah the game needs more micro interactions! Like rolling totem golems off of tuskarr totemic turn 3! What a beautiful game!

[@Imrooniel]

Reynad, this video and promise of future content like it is why I have subscribed. Keep up the good work man :)

[@jaho101]

I actually got back into the game when I tried to learn Miracle Rogue, for the same reasons. It was actually fun to play the deck.

[@zmaztermind8303]

really love the unique and indepth content in this video, looking forward to more of it! great work reynad

[@aturtlethatlookslikeahatwi7938]

This is a very enjoyable type of contet! If you ever do this again, consider adding a segment wherr you play a couple of matches and explain your choices

[@TheKennykoo]

This was a great video Reynad. Keep up the good work. :)

[@TheMtGRogue]

Definitely prefer this style of content. I've never bothered to watch any of the rehashed Twitch stuff. I also couldn't agree more with what you're saying. Keep up this style of content and you will gain a new audience.

[@BelZoness]

they should also let you put cards you own into your arena deck

[@bcameron711]

Very insightful video! I enjoyed watching it and it brought up a lot of points I had never thought about.

[@Shinigginaz]

THIS is why I loved Grim patron warrior

[@DaSpammer940]

"Hello guys, what's up? This is Reynad Back." xd

[@christopherray4019]

Love these types of vids wouldn't mind seeing more.

[@lordmyrann]

Playing a number of CCGs before getting to Hearthstone, I think just about any use of "summon random" or "discover" can be replaced with "from this deck" to increase overall deckbuilding strategy/synergy. Having some that are totally random, such as Confessor Paletress, might add to the "fun" (Mario Party style) aspect while staying mostly balanced, but mostly it feels like a cop-out. The next step after that is that things like "damage/steal a random minion" would be more likely to occur on low cost than high cost minions, for instance, to make epic minions actually feel epic. A more D&D-style rolling stats-based system behind the scenes, instead of blandly uniform probability. (Mainly I'm just salty about how unrewarding Brawl is to play against with any sort of minion deck.)

[@themanhands5599]

The great irony of this video is it gives a macro idea, "more decisions", but the micro examples have no pattern. "Keep it simple" but "have more complexity in decisions" is obviously 100% the goal. But the TYPES of complexity is the key. Devil is in the details.

[@CabeleraPVP]

awesome video! Enjoyed the thoughts around micro and macro.

[@earlpj1567]

Great video, I'm looking forward to seeing more of those.

[@Hawkye22]

This was a really great video I hope you do more like this.

[@TEHSOULREAPER]

This is the kind of thought provoking content im subscribed for, keep it up raynoodle

[@mitchelld8vies]

Hey dude! Really love these kind of videos that discuss a game mechanics and tcg decisions, would love to see more :)

[@ashketchum13579]

I love these kinds of videos man, keep it up.

[@ryokensan]

excellent and well verbalized thoughts. just having those high skill ceiling cards as an option and not even necessarily being something pushed to the front would be great. in addition I think it worth noting that beyond just the lack of cards with more open options, a lot of what influences how people play is that the primary node for determining how "good or bad" (ladder) a player is runs on a volume based return on investment system. There could be a fantastic deck comprised of those type of high thought cards that exist, it could be crazy fun to play that deck if you can grasp the concepts behind it, and it may be able to maintain a 60%+ win rate, but if it takes 2-3 times as long for those games to resolve without any addition benefit or reward for choosing the higher functioning path then the meta will always favor fast acting, low thought involvement, quick resolution decks just so that players can get more game cycles under their belt. A true tournament or weighted ranking system would be a fantastic option that would reward people the recognition and play style opportunities they crave.

[@xentan]

I loved it, the content. I subscribed. If you continue with these kinds of videos ill be sticking around.

[@kunizial]

It's so simple that lifecoach doesnt need his full time every round, just 95% of the time

[@AB21]

Thats why I really loved playing the classic Patron Warrior, I will 100% admit the deck was OP as shit but it just felt so rewarding when you won with that deck and when you lost it made you think about how you lost and how you could have won if you played correctly.

[@BlackBirds93]

1) TIL OP stands for opressive 2) I sucked with patron LUL 3) This needed to be said a thousand times over already thank you Noodle

[@thebiggestgazza]

This is why I miss warsong patron warrior, and why I only enjoy combo-based decks. Playing minion-on-curve is very boring and mundane to me, however these boring decks are often the best. The old patron was hard to play, combo-oriented and was tier 1, which for the most part is healthy design

[@coottius1830]

Amen, brotha. My interest in Hearthstone definitely wanes when everything becomes predictable. Discover was such a nice addition and thankfully there's been a couple more in Karazhan actually.

[@federicogiovannini566]

Hey Reynad this video was really interesting and I'm looking forward to other similar content you might bring.

[@sugarhighwhoo]

Tracking vs Ponder thing, you also have to remember that MTG is 60 card decks compared to 30 card decks in HS

[@K4inan]

The only other Hearthstone video maker I watch pronounces Hearthstone as Hurtstone... Reynad actually says it correctly.

[@hitoz7937]

Agree with this. I had the same experience with Worgen OTK before standard hit. It was fun and I felt rewarded if I managed to pull it of, mind you it was a lot harder back then because of Belcher meta and no OP Ghoul to clear things. Similarly I had a ton of fun playing Priest OTK with Shadowbombers (Brann and Youthful Brewmaster) and I didn't feel bad if I lost, because 95% of the time it was because I did the order of play wrong (acolyte, pyro, cleric shennanigans). There was a lot of decisions I had to do and it was a very complex deck to play , which is probably one of the reasons why people didn't play it. Also unlike other decks the win condition required me to have enough health myself if I wanted to win so decisions like do I save Flash Heal for healing myself or do I use it to kill that minion with Auchenai. Also, as a Priest it was not that easy to get my opponent down to 18 HP which is the amount of damage the combo that I used provided.

[@mrapplegate4065]

If you are ever struck with inspiration, you should consider talking about counterplay in Hearthstone. I really enjoyed this video.

[@andrewrodd7841]

Next hearthstone expansion be like, "look we added a micro thinking card", 4 mana summon a 7/7 silence it then draw a card.