Microclots

[@kim.in.nature.]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have tried everything. I used to work in the vitamin / supplement industry, so I tired that protocol first. Not much improvement. i tried the antihistamine route, even got an Rx for cromolyn sodium, no improvement. I have tried aspirin along with high doses of fish oil to thin the blood, no improvement. Stopped all alcohol 7/2020. Always eaten mostly organic. Zero junk food. No improvement. I got covid in 3/2020 so I have had plenty of time 'experimenting". I was working full time and having a great life. Now my bones ache from being in bed for so long every day. I give up.

[@siobhanchristine-bligh183]

This has given me SO much hope - thank you to all involved. God I hope we can roll out a treatment protocol to the many of us who have suffered so much

[@charlottes.1265]

Why are you not communicating the risk of the triple therapy - it is well quantified in papers from its use for other conditions, e.g. stroke? These statistics are what you off setting the risks of not treating against. How will it materialise over time......in 10 years when the long term damage of neurotoxins, low ATP, structural brain changes and all the other things, become know? I'm pleased to hear about further studies - are you buying the kit for fluorescent microscopy for your research ?

[@SupremeODMG]

It is interesting. I'm waiting to read myself when more data shows but I'm not sure how much I'm messing myself up waiting as well.

[@traiandanciu8139]

After SARS COV2 infection at some patients erytrocyte aggregation like coin rolls (sludge)can be seen at relative low temperature at optic microscope. A dropp of perifereal fresh blood put on a surface of a cold glass lamela agglutinate before coagulate. May be that can trigger microclothing. Eritrocyte aggregation at relative low temperature can , theoreticaly,induce increasing of blood viscousity. May be Dextran40 , N-acetylcysteine ,and avoiding drugs that decrease body temperature are a solution at the begining.

[@SupremeODMG]

Nac is OK for clotting? I need more...

[@traiandanciu8139]

@@SupremeODMG not for clothing, only to decrease blood viscousity and enhance capillary blood flow. To decrease rysk of arterial blood cloth acetylsalicilic acid(aspirin)was used at very low dose(50mg/dayly) and dipiridamol -especialy against arterial cloth.(decrease plattelets activity) Against vein cloth other anticoagulants are used.(IT decrease blood coagulation)

[@benedictnichols1539]

Thank you for this!

[@lukasvandersteen9872]

Thank you for the discussion. I note that antiplatelets and anticoagulants have been trialed separately at UCL, but I think the rationale from prof Pertorius is quite clear that they should be taken together, possibly explaining the mixed results at UCL so far. Regarding the risks, I understand them but under careful medical supervision this shouldn't be an issue. It may be unusual to use the triple stack approach, but we are dealing with an unusual disease. We must realise what the impact of doing nothing is. Patients cannot wait another 1 or 2 years for treatment. Every month, every week, every day counts. Further, I think everyone agrees that microclots are not the full picture. Autoantibodies, mast cells, and others are also possibly at play. It is however most likely that all these are working together in some way. It will take years before we fully understand what's going on (if at all) and I think it is clear that identifying and treating microclots in patients are the best be have at the moment. I'd like to hear/understand what UCL is doing in terms of looking for microclots in patients with light microscopes - following the Pretorius protocol. This is very hard to get done at the moment, unless you have connections at research labs (which some have successfully done). If we can show they are there, that is half of the puzzle. It will also help understand which patients will benefit from this treatment. It is really encouraging that you are working outside of the protocols and trying get us the treatment we need - and being so open about it. I'd like to see a bit more of this proactive approach to treatment in the UK - listening to patients, balancing risks and benefits.

[@dianaw1242]

I'm sure that this discussion is very important to many people but not everyone has 20 minutes to spare to watch it. Please could there be a transcript, which would be much faster to read than watching the video.

[@doctorasdatascientistucl142]

Hi Diana, the transcript should be available. Click on the More Options (three dots below the video) Select the Open Transcript option from the drop-down menu and it should appear.

[@dianaw1242]

@@doctorasdatascientistucl142 Thanks. I can't see a date for this discussion but the internal comments suggest that it took place before January 2022.