Microscopic Marvel in your Earbuds

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@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps 11 ай бұрын
*Addendum* - The "tactile buzzer" is just the battery. Brain fart, not sure where my mind was when writing that out. Whoops! 😅 - Some folks were curious how the middle gap between the layers is made. I don't know for sure, but it's likely that they used a sacrificial silicon dioxide* (SiO2 aka glass) layer in between the two "functional" layers. So the process flow would have been: pattern and etch bottom layer's array of holes, deposit a thick layer of SiO2, deposit and pattern subsequent polysilicon layers (doped or undoped), then finally etch out the SiO2 layer with HF or plasma. Then flip over and DRIE etch the big cavity from the backside. That is also likely why the dimples are dimple-shaped... they are just following the curve of the sacrificial layer that was filling the holes from the very first layer. *I suspect SiO2 because there was some EDS data (not shown in the video) which showed high concentrations of SiO2 right at the broken edge between the layers, where they meet at the "bulk" of the substrate. I think that's leftover from the sacrificial etch process.
@98f5
@98f5 11 ай бұрын
And here i was googling wtf a tactile buzzer is lol
@98f5
@98f5 11 ай бұрын
Your work continues to blow my mind also. Thank you for bringing this high quality educational entertainment to me. 😊😊
@jupa7166
@jupa7166 11 ай бұрын
I didn't catch it - I was too busy looking at that mems marvel (:
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 11 ай бұрын
It's interesting we see no microorganisms. It's really work to keep things sterile.
@jonslg240
@jonslg240 11 ай бұрын
So did the rapper MIMS name himself after MEMS, or did MEMS get backronym'd from MIMS? Or is it just a coincidence? Either way 🤯 mind blown! 😂😂
@Vlaaaaaaaarp
@Vlaaaaaaaarp 11 ай бұрын
Honestly I might be most impressed by the fact that you made a 3d model of the microphone for a mere couple seconds of footage!
@DaveNagy1
@DaveNagy1 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was a really impressive render! Was that model hand made, or is there some way to automagically process SEM images into 3D models?
@novaenricarter705
@novaenricarter705 11 ай бұрын
@@DaveNagy1 I believe it was hand made as it looked different in many ways
@mu9600
@mu9600 11 ай бұрын
making conceptual basic 3d models is not that hard if someone has a good sense of 3d imagination. i find it crazier that he is able to break a thing many times smaller than a hair in two 🤯
@mwarnas
@mwarnas 11 ай бұрын
And all that for ten bucks
@zyeborm
@zyeborm 11 ай бұрын
​@@DaveNagy1for sure hand made. The model itself would be pretty quick to make, but texturing, creating the environment, animating all that would take a decent amount of time. I'd imagine this would probably be something he modelled then sent out to an animator to render up. There's not a lot of cross over between cad modelling for engineering and pretty stuff sadly. That said I wouldn't put it past him to do it all himself, legend.
@Flumphinator
@Flumphinator 11 ай бұрын
The fact that this sort of tech is $10 for a whole system is literally marvelous. 30 years ago this would be actual magic.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 11 ай бұрын
Crazy. I just made much the same comment before seeing yours. It really is amazing how fast microelectronics has developed
@Flumphinator
@Flumphinator 11 ай бұрын
@@jimurrata6785 I absolutely cannot wait to see what’s coming in another 30 years.
@GeraltOfRivia69
@GeraltOfRivia69 11 ай бұрын
Magic is technology not yet discovered
@pharaohsmagician8329
@pharaohsmagician8329 11 ай бұрын
​@@GeraltOfRivia69exactly! Everything is possible
@Jose04537
@Jose04537 11 ай бұрын
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Arthur C. Clarke
@smellycat249
@smellycat249 11 ай бұрын
Your video making skills are off the hook. I love the CGI of the microphone and all the beautiful imagery. Your hard work to make these videos is super appreciated.
@BraxtonHoward
@BraxtonHoward 11 ай бұрын
The rendered footage was some of the best I've seen before on educational content.
@SomeSortaPro
@SomeSortaPro 11 ай бұрын
I am in awe, I have gotten into microelectronics lately after watching lots of Asianometry videos and this visual exploration of this microphone was astonishing. Seeing the small features contrasted with a human hair really put everything in perspective in a wonderful way.
@andrew2004sydney
@andrew2004sydney 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video!
@mattsains
@mattsains 11 ай бұрын
It's perhaps not that surprising that you could create a capacitive microsphone from silicon, but what's mind-blowing to me is that it's such a good microphone. It doesn't seem obvious that you would be able to make a microphone that could do anything other than simply detect the presence of sound. Insane engineering to get to a useful microphone
@drkastenbrot
@drkastenbrot 11 ай бұрын
key to it all is the perfect repeatability and precision of silicon lithography. the signal is very weak and the frequency response is terrible but it can be precisely characterised and corrected using the built in integrated circuit.
@mattsains
@mattsains 11 ай бұрын
@@drkastenbrot cool
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 11 ай бұрын
​@@drkastenbrotalso the ability to make an ic with that capability fit in there with such low power
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 11 ай бұрын
What might blow your mind too are a type of sensor, found in most smartphones, smart watches, etc., which is closely related to MEMS microphones in their construction (and which in fact came first): MEMS barometers. Rather than the membrane being moved by sound, it’s got a sealed cavity so that as external air pressure changes, the air in the cavity expands or contracts, making the membrane bow in or out, changing its distance and thus the capacitance. What’s incredible is that they’re so sensitive that this is what your phone uses to detect changes in your altitude. Yes, your phone tells how many floors of stairs you climbed by measuring the difference in air pressure. So you might think it’s sensitive enough to measure a meter or two of altitude, right? Nope, they have a resolution of a few _centimeters._ I find it truly incredible that these sensors can actually tell the difference in air pressure over literally one palm’s width of altitude.
@heatshield
@heatshield 11 ай бұрын
@@tookitogo it’s truly awesome tech. I remember figuring out that one of my old android phones had a Yamaha component for an accelerometer. Been pretty hooked on micro tech since then.
@klab3929
@klab3929 11 ай бұрын
"Buddy I can't hear ya, think you forgot your microphone in the electron microscope again"
@linecraftman3907
@linecraftman3907 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like vacuum in there!
@klab3929
@klab3929 11 ай бұрын
@@linecraftman3907 sounds like space!
@ArriEllieJelly
@ArriEllieJelly 11 ай бұрын
The 3d model of the mic kind of blew my mind. I loooooooooooove seeing stuff under electron microscopes, thank you for making this. Fantastic all around.
@ArchangelExile
@ArchangelExile 11 ай бұрын
It's amazing that even a crappy $10 pair of earbuds has this much engineering put into it.
@blakeramsey3373
@blakeramsey3373 11 ай бұрын
exatly what i was thinking, its probably pretty "plug and play" for the manufacturers but still so cool
@DudeWhoSaysDeez
@DudeWhoSaysDeez 11 ай бұрын
so much fabbed silicon in a cheap throwaway device
@unixux
@unixux 11 ай бұрын
People don’t appreciate just how far we got
@fatcatzero
@fatcatzero 11 ай бұрын
Economy of scale is a crazy thing
@AllisterCaine
@AllisterCaine 11 ай бұрын
​@@unixuxyeah... Instead they turn to magic creatures and conspiracy theories. You know, no way the Egyptians could have built the pyramids. Because people sure were dumber thousands of years ago. 😂
@Dynomat
@Dynomat 11 ай бұрын
Also not a seasoned audio engineer here but my trivial explanation for the cavity below the membrane is, that it provides a neutral pressure reference against the outside. Thus the microphone becomes omnidirectional. If it would be open from the back, sound waves coming from the side would not be picked up. Thank you for that brilliant deep dive of a video!
@UNSCPILOT
@UNSCPILOT 11 ай бұрын
huh, that's a concise but insightful bit of knowledge, and goes to explain quite a bit, thanks!
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps 11 ай бұрын
Neat, TIL! Thanks for the explanation!
@commander-tomalak
@commander-tomalak 11 ай бұрын
To my best knowledge, the size of the cavity vs. the diameter of the central hole define your lower cut-off frequency, otherwise this thing would be driven into saturation by low-frequency or static pressure.
@spvillano
@spvillano 9 ай бұрын
@@commander-tomalak that's my thought. Vented microphone to control for VLF and barometric pressure, the cavity for resonance, the steps to tune and reflect various frequency harmonics. Impressive, given the frequencies used in narrowband telephony is around 300 - 3400 Hz, wavelengths ranging from around 45" - 4"! Yep, a quick lookup shows they're called a MEMS resonant microphone array. Here's a discussion on active noise cancellation using the technology. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7978172/
@jix177
@jix177 11 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation! Never realised there was so much complexity in there, it's certainly a lot more than just a tinier microphone!
@hinz1
@hinz1 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely crazy that something like this is 2x inside a $10 headphone, so each maybe 10cents, at most. 300mm waver gives maybe 50'000, so a whole waver with bonding and everything for less than $5000. That "buzzer" most likely is the battery, btw.
@TheMrTape
@TheMrTape 10 ай бұрын
There's probably just a single mic in one of the earbuds. Lookup "digikey mems mic" and you can find them starting at 47 cents each if you buy 1000. This is a US retailer selling reputable parts. If you get them directly from China, which is probably where these earbuds originate, they'd of course be significantly cheaper.
@AlphaPhoenixChannel
@AlphaPhoenixChannel 11 ай бұрын
I'm always blown away by how intricate fab stuff can get! way cool investigation
@multiarray2320
@multiarray2320 11 ай бұрын
you alao got access to a SEM, right? maybe investigating something like that would be a nice video idea as well :)
@danielangeles86
@danielangeles86 10 ай бұрын
I work at a very old 200mm semiconductor fab as an equipment engineer. One of my processes is polysilicon deposition through LPCVD. Hearing these terms in a video about mics in earbuds is awesome.
@shimondoodkin
@shimondoodkin 11 ай бұрын
the way this microphone works is, there is a small hole that allows to equalize the pressure between the inside and outside of the chamber slowly later when pressure is applied to the top the fluctuations are relative to the mean pressure.
@spvillano
@spvillano 9 ай бұрын
The cavity is a resonant chamber. The microphone is referred to as a MEMS resonant microphone array. Pair them up and one can have quality active noise cancellation. The cavity is a resonant chamber, the steps for different frequencies.
@cannack
@cannack 11 ай бұрын
such an underrated channel I have so many other things to do today but your SEM experiments just have me glued, amazing stuff.
@spvillano
@spvillano 9 ай бұрын
I told Santa that I wanted an SEM for Christmas. Unfortunately, he said that I was too heavy, get the fuck off of his lap. Back during the last Ice Age and I was in school, our junior high and high school had donated TEM units, which we were allowed to use. By the time my kids went to school, the electron microscopes were long gone, as were the optical microscopes.
@walmi328
@walmi328 10 ай бұрын
The fact people figured out how to make this stuff!!! It’s insane to think about. We don’t give ourselves enough credit as a species.
@erbertvandesteen8527
@erbertvandesteen8527 11 ай бұрын
Dude, this is awesome to see so detailed and even broken open. And on top of that, as if that wasn't enough, you explain it all as well and even use super beautiful renders for that explanation!
@danny_racho
@danny_racho 11 ай бұрын
You just spoke about almost every topic I had in my master's degree lecture "Physical Sensors in Silicon Technology", we also had the etching process RIE (Plasma etching - Reactive ion etching) explained in details in there. Thank you for making this video, I just finished my university degree and it's cool to see some practical stuff for a change!
@spvillano
@spvillano 9 ай бұрын
The MEMS resonant microphone array is a fascinating technology, especially the tiny resonant chamber within the unit.
@professordeb
@professordeb 11 ай бұрын
Wow, excellent presentation. The SEM images and CGI blend perfectly. What an amazing piece of technology. I wonder if the dimples in the top layer are for controlling the stiffness of the disk.
@jakubnevaril9768
@jakubnevaril9768 11 ай бұрын
They would probably also help increase the capacity by enlarging the surface area when the membrane is close to the other electrode.
@victortitov1740
@victortitov1740 11 ай бұрын
i would speculate that it's mostly just a byproduct of how the thing is manufactured
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I believe the dimples are _mostly_ an artifact of the manufacturing steps to make one. There are a few ways it could have been made, but my current theory is: pattern and etch the base substrate giving nice clean holes, deposit a layer of glass on top (which will naturally form rounded dimples over the holes), deposit another layer of undoped polysilicon and then a doped polysilicon layer, then finally etch out the sacrificial glass layer (with HF or plasma) leaving the gap between the two layers. Finally flip and etch the big cavity. Just a guess but it makes sense to me. The holes in the lower layer are to help air move past it with minimal resistance, but the dimples on the surface aren't really needed. So I think it's leftover from the layered nature of fabrication.
@professordeb
@professordeb 11 ай бұрын
@@BreakingTaps You mean a totally flat disk without dimples could not be fabricated? I wouldn't expect that, but I don't know anything about processes at this micro level. I'm just blown away that they actually work as well as they do. Are neodymium magnets used at this scale?
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps 11 ай бұрын
​@@professordeb It's technically possible to get a flat disk on top of the hole'y layer, but it would be a lot more work. There's another process called "chemical-mechanical planarization" which is basically a super fancy sand paper for wafers 😁 It's used to flatten the top layer by grinding/polishing until all the ridges are gone. It's often used on high density microchips like computer CPUs, because you have soooo many layers that everything starts to get rounded. So they periodically flatten it with the planarization tools. So to get a flat surface for this device, you'd deposit a really thick sacrificial layer, then grind it back flat, then proceed with the next steps. But if you don't _need_ it to be flat, you can skip and save money. Magnets aren't used a lot at this scale because (I think) the magnetization process needs high temperatures and it can be difficult for the devices to survive. Although I've seen some papers about using laser-heating and such, so I'm sure it's doable. At this size, electrostatic, thermal and piezo mechanisms tend to be more common.
@StingrayOfficial
@StingrayOfficial 11 ай бұрын
Man I am glad I found your channel. This stuff is awesome. TY
@user-pd5ot4zd4b
@user-pd5ot4zd4b 11 ай бұрын
This is great! Hah, I just bought these ONN buds on sale for ~10$ and they work great as a basic hands/wires free headset. I was marveling at the amount of tech crammed into these cheap lil guys and you've revealed their innermost secrets :D Always enjoy your microscopy.
@garygenerous8982
@garygenerous8982 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making these videos. They really help give perspective on this extremely tiny yet extremely impactful part of all our lives. Plus the SEM images and CGI you make are absolutely beautiful to look at.
@marklundeberg7006
@marklundeberg7006 11 ай бұрын
Why there is such a big cavity: my guess is that it is simply to do with ease of manufacture. They first make all the structures on top, then flip it over and etch through from the backside. Importantly they also intentionally leave a controlled-size hole that allows internal pressure to equalize over a controlled time (e.g. if device takes a plane ride or happens to be put in a vacuum during further processing), not too slow but not too quickly that the device wouldn't be able to pick up bass. Given the tiny size of the cavity, it can't have anything to do with acoustic resonances.
@chasingcapsaicin
@chasingcapsaicin 11 ай бұрын
Has everything to do with acoustic resonances, and there are much more ambitious ones in the public market.
@martylawson1638
@martylawson1638 11 ай бұрын
The amplifier for the microphone looks quite interesting too. Looks like too many parts to be purely an analog amplifier. I wonder if they're driving the microphone with AC and de-modulating to get the audio?
@samroesch
@samroesch 11 ай бұрын
I’d love to know more about the hole pattern. Most is a hexagonal fill which is good for maximum density and uniformity. Edges are concentric rings, and in between is a hybrid.
@AndrewZonenberg
@AndrewZonenberg 11 ай бұрын
These microphones typically have a digital output using "pulse density modulation", where the rate of toggles encodes the analog signal value. The three ports coming off the control die are almost certainly power. ground, and audio out. Also +1 for DRIE video. That was the first thing I noticed when you cracked it open. The Bosch process is cool!
@spvillano
@spvillano 9 ай бұрын
I counted 7 heavy etchings on one component, couldn't get a good count for thinner etchings for things like the resonant chamber. Then, I considered how many ways I could badly injure myself on the equipment that builds these devices... Ion beam, HF, yeah, gotta be a pain to maintain those machines!
@wouldntyaliktono
@wouldntyaliktono 11 ай бұрын
I look forward to these posts so much. It's the highlight of an otherwise rather mundate youtube experience for me.
@Alorand
@Alorand 11 ай бұрын
What amazes me is the price of this tiny marvel being under $1.
@hagen.360
@hagen.360 11 ай бұрын
I love electron microscopes and pictures they produce. Really like to watch your content. I always learn something new. Thank you!
@Freelancer604
@Freelancer604 10 ай бұрын
Im actually more amazed at the quality of this video than anything else.. and wow, SEMs have really improved over the last decade or so.
@welkombijpraxis
@welkombijpraxis 11 ай бұрын
Sick, never knew how they fit microphones into those earbuds, thanks for showing!
@dryatish2102
@dryatish2102 10 ай бұрын
This was on my feed since it was on KZbin.. but was scrolling down.. but after seeing the reel had to watch the full video.. Absolutely amazing. The amount of tech that goes in inside 10 dollar microphone just blows my mind..
@gingermany6223
@gingermany6223 11 ай бұрын
Just one correction. The balls at the ends of the bond wires are tiny solder bumps and not Au balls. Solder bumping, wire bonding, die stacking and 3D packaging in general would make a great episode!
@maxenielsen
@maxenielsen 11 ай бұрын
Commonly, after making the bond to the lead frame (after first bonding to the bond pad on the chip) the wire-bond machine severs the wire with an electric arc. This arc produces a spherical blob of molten wire, which cools and solidifies. That little ball is right below the surface of the bonding foot. So when the bonding foot is pressed down onto the next bond pad on the chip, it compresses the ball onto the bond pad, creating the electrical and mechanical connection to the bond pad. So the little balls are of gold or aluminum, whatever the bond wire metal happens to be.
@maxenielsen
@maxenielsen 11 ай бұрын
Now, where chips are bonded directly to each other or PCB, the balls are usually made of solder or tin or indium. Actually, they are referred to as bumps for this kind of bonding operation.
@AgentWest
@AgentWest 11 ай бұрын
Interesting to see the ridges inside that microphone cavity. At first i thought they were there to help with echo and reflections, similar to how some speaker boxes deal with it. Now I'm wondering if the etching process is calibrated to make those ridges a certain size specifically for essentially tuning it.
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 11 ай бұрын
MEMS is the quiet revolution. That tiny microphone, tiny sensors, gryoscopes on drones and modern airplanes, all done with MEMS. It started as engineers seeing other applications for IC processes than just electronics and making such things as working microscopic motors, but then quickly advanced to more useful concerns.
@jamm8284
@jamm8284 11 ай бұрын
The pattern of the dimples is interesting, it seems like a thought through pattern, I wonder how much different patterns, depths and shapes of dimples would alter the sound.
@setituptoblowitup
@setituptoblowitup 11 ай бұрын
I can't see u😂
@pedroamaral3935
@pedroamaral3935 5 ай бұрын
It’s called anti-stiction bumps… to unmute the mic after an high sound event or mechanical shock
@Badspot
@Badspot 11 ай бұрын
Ordinary ceramic capacitors can also respond to sound. I've seen speculation that this effect could be used to turn ordinary electronics into surveillance devices but I haven't seen a proof of concept yet.
@sirBumpyCase
@sirBumpyCase 11 ай бұрын
I have to remind myself that this is only one component out of a $10.00 pair of earbuds.
@hadinossanosam4459
@hadinossanosam4459 11 ай бұрын
I would guess the large cavity behind the membrane matters for the microphone's frequency response: Most practical microphones don't want to react to slow changes in ambient air pressure, because those can easily be much bigger than typical sound pressure levels, and could blow out the membrane. This is what the small hole in the middle of the membrane is for, to let the pressure equalize on both sides of the membrane (equivalent to a high-pass filter). Of course, if the equalization is too fast, then it can also equalize out low-frequency sounds, which would impact the frequency response of the microphone. The speed of this equalization depends on the hole size and the volume behind the hole (similar to a Helmholtz resonator with an additional loss term), so the manufacturer will tune either the hole size or the volume behind the membrane to set this frequency to a sensible value - I think 1-2Hz are typical for typical electret microphones. I would guess, then, that the hole is already as small as feasible in this process, for some reason or another. Then it would make sense for the manufacturer to make the volume larger (requiring more etching steps) in order to improve the frequency response at low frequencies.
@foobargorch
@foobargorch 11 ай бұрын
can you explain what's the additional loss term?
@filmweaver2013
@filmweaver2013 11 ай бұрын
It’s just FASCINATING to say the least to not only come up with such solutions but make them at scale for dirt cheapp! That work sooo well! The amount of research, knowledge, experience, and creativity of these engineers is legendary
@mikestewart4752
@mikestewart4752 11 ай бұрын
Really cool video dude! I just hooked up a MEMS mic to my WLED display for music reactivity. Cool to see exactly how these little pieces of “fly sh!t” actually work! Merry Christmas!!!
@viniciusnoyoutube
@viniciusnoyoutube 11 ай бұрын
Incredible video with stunning visual and intriguing explanation. Keep the good work.
@_spartan11796
@_spartan11796 11 ай бұрын
Your animations are fantastic!
@deezeemb
@deezeemb 11 ай бұрын
I'm amazed at how polished the second layer appears under the Electron Microscope!
@oliverfalco7060
@oliverfalco7060 11 ай бұрын
You should have recorded the audio of this video in an airbud mic
@Finlaymacnab
@Finlaymacnab 11 ай бұрын
Nice work. This looks surprisingly easy to make.
@miaouew
@miaouew 11 ай бұрын
ELectron Microscopes are probably one of my favorite advancements in science tech over the last however many years. What a neat looking dive into a whole new world they give us
@neohippyfreetheworld3398
@neohippyfreetheworld3398 11 ай бұрын
This has answered questions I didn't know I had 👏
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 11 ай бұрын
I feel like the advent of the transistor is really under appreciated Because we would never have been able to reach this small of a scale in electronics had the transistor never been invented
@LanceThumping
@LanceThumping 11 ай бұрын
I'm curious about the details on it's response curve and if others can be made with different geometry with different curves. It's be cool to see tiny arrays of these that have insane sound quality.
@icediverfull
@icediverfull 11 ай бұрын
Thats exactly my thought also!
@maxenielsen
@maxenielsen 11 ай бұрын
Back in 2003 a company called Akustika built a MEMS capacitive microphone on a CMOS chip. The chip was about 2mm on a side and the microphone was a membrane of oxide and metal over a cavity. The CMOS chip also had a preamplifier and an analog-to-digital converter. So the chip produced a digitized signal with only a connection to an external battery. Total harmonic distortion was hi-fi quality and noise was low enough for use in hearing aids. This was an early prototype. Akustika designed the microphone. I and a colleague designed the preamp and ADC. After fabrication in a CMOS foundry Akustika did the additional processing to fully develop the microphone structure. It worked. The device you show has separate microphone and preamp dice. Probably also a pretty decent performing device. What people are doing these days with MEMS is stunning. Thanks for the video!
@maxenielsen
@maxenielsen 11 ай бұрын
Correction: the company name was Akustica, rather than “Akustika”. Akustica is now part of Bosch.
@pragmax
@pragmax 11 ай бұрын
The geometry of the whole thing is interesting. The dimples probably make the upper membrane more stiff, and might have been calculated or arrived at experimentally. Stiffness is useful in this application as you don't want to respond to the inertia of the membrane itself (flopping around). The chamber below is indeed for resonance, and it should be possible to physically measure it and calculate what frequencies it is sympathetic to; my bet is that it works really well for key frequencies in "toll-quality" audio (voice). I'm also betting that the device is good at picking up low audio frequencies from whatever it's mounted to, letting the whole earbud vibrate as an extension of the sensor.
@DanielFSmith
@DanielFSmith 11 ай бұрын
Spitballing... I imagine the dimples are to make the upper membrane less stiff. Stiff membranes resonate---like a drumskin---and you want as little resonance as possible; while still attaining high deflection for gain. (High Q, high amplitude voltage ringing, even above hearing frequency, can upset amplifiers.)
@cheyannei5983
@cheyannei5983 11 ай бұрын
I'll add my own unqualified take into the pot: it's silicon. It probably has a really wonky breakup pattern that the dimples help with! Only joking! It's a cheap MEMS mic, guys. They probably just make the capacitance less spiky and mic a bit more sensitive since the holes are under the dimples. The only design features here are to loosen tolerances or lower cost. But the cavity under just seems like a classic Helmholtz resonator. It likely is for tuning.
@ELYESSS
@ELYESSS 11 ай бұрын
I was thinking they did it to make the surface area of the diaphragm a little bit bigger. Maybe even tune it to a specific frequency.
@thavinator
@thavinator 11 ай бұрын
I guess the dimples would cause a nonlinear response to displacement? It's hard to tell what the neutral position is between the dimples and holes, but it looks like the dimples don't quite cross the holes. If I'm imagining this right, at low SPL/small deflections you'd get an initially sharp response as the dimple intrudes into the hole, and the changing size of the annular gap as the curve of the dimple passes the hole dominates the response. Once the straight(ish) part of the dimple enters the hole, the annular gap stops changing and the overall motion of the plate creates the response at higher SPLs. Pretty neat way to balance sensitivity and dynamic range if that's what they're doing.
@isthisnecessary1992
@isthisnecessary1992 9 ай бұрын
What happened to the video "The Science of SpaceX Starship's Thermal Tiles" which was up until a few hours ago?
@rustymundorf4672
@rustymundorf4672 9 ай бұрын
I came looking for it to send to a friend. I found a link to it on Hackaday, but it was listed as private. I wonder what happened?
@fabiodlx
@fabiodlx 9 ай бұрын
Me too!
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 8 ай бұрын
Same I wanted to rewatch it :(
@IcedReaver
@IcedReaver 11 ай бұрын
I used to work in the semiconductor industry, and I think this video is great! I love the detailed SEM images, much better than the quality of the images created by the 90s era Hitachi SEM I used to operate 😂
@fluffy_tail4365
@fluffy_tail4365 11 ай бұрын
wait wait wait. How do they etch the giant hole and then make the membrane on top?? Do they come from the back?
@makebreakrepeat
@makebreakrepeat 11 ай бұрын
Through the magic of buying ... oh, it already comes with two :D
@aymansaleh7019
@aymansaleh7019 11 ай бұрын
As an engineer, it has been a long long time since the last time I was curios & actually had fun watching electronics under a microscope. Thank you
@arrowblueberri
@arrowblueberri 10 ай бұрын
I didn’t know Thor was in my earbud 😮
@SaccoBelmonte
@SaccoBelmonte 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you for the detailed explanation of how these mics work. Now I see my earbuds in a different way.
@antonio_carvalho
@antonio_carvalho 11 ай бұрын
What a perfectly paced video, I couldn't stop watching it. Thank for you the impressive images and insightful analysis!
@Rizzob17
@Rizzob17 11 ай бұрын
This was very well done. I am amazed at how small, yet how intricately designed these devices are. It is mind boggling. The funny thing is, if humanity ever had a hard restart, none of this would survive and those thousands of years in the future would be left scratching their heads, just like we do now with ancient humanity.
@CwanaPizda
@CwanaPizda 10 ай бұрын
Wow, that was a truly incredible video. I was especially surprised and delighted with the model and animation you created to explain how the device works. I know that in terms of the principle of operation it is quite a simple device, but the scale of miniaturization and the way you presented it make me want to show it to my wife, children and friends. I am really impressed with your channel - keep up the good work. Regards
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 11 ай бұрын
007 would have gave his right arm for this technology!😁
@thetet1361
@thetet1361 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been a sales engineer for 25 years now. Nothing interests me. But I loved your video. Nice work. Super interesting. Thanks.
@big_whopper
@big_whopper 11 ай бұрын
The back cavity is to allow space for the membrane to vibrate. The combination of the stiffness of the membrane and the volume of the cavity form the equivalent of an LC circuit, and you want the resonant frequency above 20khz, so the frequency response is flat in the audible range
@nicknorthcutt7680
@nicknorthcutt7680 10 ай бұрын
Seriously the most impressive microscopic images I've ever seen.
@lazyidealist
@lazyidealist 11 ай бұрын
Please please make more videos on electric components. It is extremely fascinating.
@albyboy4278
@albyboy4278 11 ай бұрын
Looks like @MacroWorld21 with that mems microphone macro infected the perfect KZbinr.. I like the electron microscope photos, super cool na awesome explanation..
@Mushbee
@Mushbee 11 ай бұрын
This kind tech content is mesmerizing, I'm far from understanding how all this parts connect and talk to each other, but its exciting to see what can be done.
@WKRPinCINN
@WKRPinCINN 10 ай бұрын
Any headphone can be a microphone.
@Zel_Kova
@Zel_Kova 11 ай бұрын
I'm one of the people who makes such wafers! Its always fun to see the final product they end up being dissected. Thanks for this video. :)
@VincentGroenewold
@VincentGroenewold 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely wonderful yet again. What amazes me most is how this can be done so cheaply these days that the entire earbud is 10 dollars. :)
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's wild how quickly economies of scale can crush the price down to basically nothing. 🤯
@jan.tichavsky
@jan.tichavsky 11 ай бұрын
@@BreakingTaps Same with camera modules for phones. It has rather advanced optics, on chip image processing, low power and about lowest noise physically possible (for the small area), yet when you make them in millions the basic ones cost just few dollars. Amazing devices.
@joppepeelen
@joppepeelen 11 ай бұрын
it works like a reverse electrostatic speaker. size is not audio quality related.. in fact a small membrane would be able to pickup high frequencies from all directions like a true omni direction mic. only downside of such small mic might be efficiency or noise floor
@Denvermorgan2000
@Denvermorgan2000 11 ай бұрын
Basically these things are really still, a condenser microphone because it’s the same principal that makes them work large condenser, microphones are also capacitors.
@big_dawg1
@big_dawg1 11 ай бұрын
I could watch videos of you looking at the microscopic details in technology and explaining them forever! :)
@tostada_gaming_93
@tostada_gaming_93 11 ай бұрын
The quality of these videos never ceases to amaze me :)
@mwdiers
@mwdiers 11 ай бұрын
I believe the cavity serves as a resonance chamber. This is essential for resolving the lower frequencies of the human voice on such a small device.
@landonkryger
@landonkryger 11 ай бұрын
My Pixel Buds came with a warning that they have a Class 1 laser inside. Any idea what that might be used for and are lasers of this size particularly interesting?
@defenestrated23
@defenestrated23 11 ай бұрын
Laser microphones are a thing, but I'd be shocked if that was the actual use case. Seems like a more complex and lower fidelity approach. A quick search suggests it's an IR laser to detect when the bud is in an ear.
@jinsong6940
@jinsong6940 11 ай бұрын
Crazy how accurate the manufacturing of that is.
@LesLaboratory
@LesLaboratory 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic as always! Man I wish I had and SEM to play with!
@stefanschneider3681
@stefanschneider3681 11 ай бұрын
Now that was cool! Great video! First time I saw someone use a private electron microscope!
@JorenVaes
@JorenVaes 11 ай бұрын
What is interesting about the bond-wire at 4:40 is that the bondwires seem to be mounted on top of a gold ball. If it was ball bonding, I would expect a clean transistion from the 'mushroomed' out ball to the wire, but this is not the case, you can clearly see that the wire itself has been smooshed (through what looks like wedge bonding) onto the gold ball.
@codythep
@codythep 10 ай бұрын
Crazy... Thank you!
@AngryApple
@AngryApple 11 ай бұрын
its astonishing that so miniature highly advanced tech can be bought in a pair of headphones for just 10 bucks. Thats an impressive feat of innovation here
@andrea9230
@andrea9230 5 ай бұрын
This is an amazing and very detailed video! Loved it! If I could give one suggestion though, I think it would be less distracting if you kept the same tone to the voice throughout any sentence, instead of starting each line with a high pitch and then ending them with a really deep voice. Anyways, beautiful video!
@laszlozoltan5021
@laszlozoltan5021 11 ай бұрын
really really cool video. I think we really owe a lot I mean, (in caps) a lot to those who went to school, studied hard in uni and gave us these things
@Aqquinox
@Aqquinox 11 ай бұрын
Im not sure if its a microphone from a different manufacturer but I saw the actual MEMS wafers with the holes in it. The poly etchers basically punch holes in them via bosch process to go down so far without having an profile with an angle. A lot of loops.
@BreakingTaps
@BreakingTaps 11 ай бұрын
Bosch process is absolutely wild! Especially the more refined variants that can etch with much smoother sidewalls.
@hubertshingle6521
@hubertshingle6521 11 ай бұрын
thank you for creating and sharing this, that was amazing and enlightening
@szaszafaja
@szaszafaja 11 ай бұрын
Oh wow this is amazing!! Thank you for making such a detailed video about it!
@Creative_Musician
@Creative_Musician 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for creating this video ❤ It is really surprising to know that how these tiny devices are everywhere around us today and very few people appreciate the insane engineering involved in them.
@makebreakrepeat
@makebreakrepeat 11 ай бұрын
I really needed a bit of marvel and wonderment today. Thank you!
@nocknock4832
@nocknock4832 11 ай бұрын
So crazy how this is integrated in everything
@bobaloo2012
@bobaloo2012 11 ай бұрын
I hope you still get a thrill every time you say "now let's look at it under the electron microscope..."
@__rmc72
@__rmc72 11 ай бұрын
It's amazing that this all costs less than 10 bucks yet is so infinitely complex
@capitalv8062
@capitalv8062 11 ай бұрын
I feel like I can say this for every electronics part but it’s insane how much engineering can be put into a $0.20 cent microphone.
@kriseckhardt5148
@kriseckhardt5148 11 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT! This has been a long time coming. Thank you!
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 11 ай бұрын
If you think that's special wait till you see the mems speaker so small that a pair fits easily on a dime with 140dB output! 20 to 20k freq response! Man, I got plans for those!
@Ohm7111
@Ohm7111 11 ай бұрын
I believe the "tactile buzzer" is the battery.
@HerzaPop
@HerzaPop 11 ай бұрын
Wow, just wow. How is humanity even coming to inventions like this? Awesome video tho
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