Microsoft Flight Simulator HP Reverb G2 VR Optimization Guide || MSFS 2020 VR

[@BamTechVids]

Thanks for watching guys. Please let me know if this vid was helpful and post any optimization discoveries you've made! 🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅

[@LCTRgames]

100% agree on the frame consistency point - been shouting for years that people should worry less about averages and worry more about those 0.1% lows where the stutters live :)

[@BamTechVids]

thank you, thank you, thank you. and thanks for watching!

[@theVRpilot]

100% I am tired of showing FPS, it runs so smooth and these 144fps fans are loosing their mind that it isn’t some insane FPS!

[@georgeseaman9392]

OUTSTANDING VIDEO! Between you and VR Flight Sim Guy, my sim is SMOKIN in VR with my new G2! Thank you! Merry Christmas!

[@BamTechVids]

Great to hear George. Thanks for watching. Merry Christmas!

[@theVRpilot]

Good job Bam! The community needs all the help it can get, these is an amazing sim and with a little tweaking performance can really be bumped up!

[@BamTechVids]

thanks!

[@NovaGeddon771]

Thank you for posting this video. I was going a bit nuts with the settings, but with your help I was able to get it to work pretty smooth. Still have to play around with the settings but to start you got me very far. Thanks a lot!

[@BamTechVids]

Great to hear Sergio. Thanks for watching.

[@fromimo6612]

your video helped me a lot. I have set everything according to my hardware and it runs smoothly. thank you very much

[@BamTechVids]

great to hear this helped!.. thanks for watching.

[@K11...]

Thanks. Very good work. Subscribed. And Merry Christmas!

[@BamTechVids]

My pleasure.. thanks for watching and Merry Christmas to you too! 🎄🎅

[@4secsharkmr352]

Straight to the point. Thank you very much and Merry Christmas.🎅🎄🎅

[@BamTechVids]

Merry Christmas to you too. Thanks for your kind words.

[@constantine6313]

Thanks for the video. Helped me a lot. Getting a much smoother view, just need to improve the constant frame rate somehow.

[@BamTechVids]

Glad it helped. Thanks for watching

[@constantine6313]

Posted your video on fb m.facebook.com/groups/594228424821190/permalink/701683527409012/

[@AbideinChristSealed]

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[@AbideinChristSealed]

ooops I should have watched video first

[@sascenturion]

Hi and a Merry Christmas to you 😊 Thanks for the info ..great 👍 , although I'm still waiting for my G2 to arrive 😭..all the info i can get beforehand is very welcome!. In regards the " Community folder" in MSFS2020 , everytime Microsoft or Asobo has an update there is a warning that the new update might be affected by the files in the community folder so its best to copy it and delete it and re-paste in after the update. One thing i would like to say though is ..i am new to flight simming and I've been very impressed with the community aspect of the genre ..forums, utube videos , etc etc all very helpful and informative! 😀👍 Thanks

[@BamTechVids]

Thanks for watching. Yes it’s a great community. You may want to check out the VR Aviators FB group as well. Merry Christmas! Hope your G2 arrives soon.

[@Splendiddddd]

You don’t need to run steamvr with the G2 in msfs.... it runs native with openxr runtime

[@BamTechVids]

Lesson learned. Thanks.

[@Splendiddddd]

@@maxqubit just run and get in vr via the game. It won’t run steam vr

[@edensheiko]

what about quest 2 ? do i need steam for that?

[@dabneyoffermein595]

oh wow, would that have caused it to go to sleep because i noticed that SteamVR was gray and not green when i landed to try to turn off the room boundaries because that was driving me nuts in the cockpit but i ended up having to turn it off in the WMR menu because SteamVR wasn't even running and I was like what happened to it. So again thanks, it explains a lot of stuff.

[@EinkOLED]

@@edensheiko Don't use steam VR for the quest, it warps the display.

[@Ken_1971]

A great video thank you !! Greetings from Germany.

[@BamTechVids]

Thanks for watching

[@bournejsn]

Fantastic video!! thank you from New Zealand. (no we're not part of Australia!)

[@BamTechVids]

Thanks. Lol

[@simonfalconer8838]

@@BamTechVids also from NZ, great video (from Otaki)

[@dtrjones]

Hi BambinoTech, just discovered an amazing optimisation tweak yesterday. I was trying to fix videos being temporaritly blank during play a symtom of a bad video adaptor driver. So I uninstalled all nvidia software and ran disk cleanup in windows making sure to remove the shader files and deleted all files in windows/temp and appdata/local/temp. Then reinstalled the same nvidia driver and to my utter amazement msfs ran a lot quicker in vr and reprojection using the openxr tool worked so much better than before.

[@BamTechVids]

Wow. That’s great. I had heard of others who did a clean install of nvidia drivers with good results. Which GPU are u using?

[@dtrjones]

@@BamTechVids Asus ROG Strix 2080 Ti, I can run with some High and Ultra settings in rural areas which is amazing but I still have OpenXR scaling on 70% and MSFS scaling at 70% that makes such a big difference but is also still pretty good for the G2, other headsets you probably don't need to be as aggressive. When running disk cleanup make sure you select clean up system files and check Direct X Shader Cache. Let me know how you get on if you give this a try!

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@dtrjones why clear DirectX Shader Cache?

[@dtrjones]

@@dabneyoffermein595 because cached shaders are compiled by the driver and may be corrupt or out of date for the new driver. I would delete the shader cache when changing drivers especially if rolling back to get better performance in MSFS. Has no impact on DirectX titles as they are recompiled at runtime.

[@YurandX]

Im not sure i follow the openxr custom resolution scale.. 80% which you set in it + 70% in game combined gives around 55% overall resolution (assuming 100% from steamvr). Wouldn't it be better to leave the custom resolution scale setting on 100%, and then change resolution scale in game? Why add the extra step? Very informative video otherwise, have a good one

[@BamTechVids]

since posting this video it was discovered by VR Flight Sim Guy that 50% OPenXR with motion projection disabled and 100% rendering in MSFS was the sweet spot. Check his channel for his 3 min video on it.

[@simenbo797]

@@BamTechVids I have a rtx 3080, i-9 9900k. G2 reverb. Msfs almost all settings on ultra, high. Render scale in fs 100, tried 50-100 in openxr. Sweet spot center the instruments is clearly visible, but takes a second for eye to adapt and get focus. Peripherals are blurry and especially the terrain doesn't seem to be as crisp as i was hoping. Is this to be expected or is there something i can tweak? Also, it looks like 50% is the lowest setting possible for openxr? U mean I should leave it at default 50?

[@18bagabooo]

I don’t know why, but for me anything but 100 render scale gives fuzzy lines almost like AA is not on at all. Runway lines are a squiggly mess further in the distance. I had to go 100in game render scale, and 80 in the windows mixed reality developer tool. That seems to work better for me.

[@BamTechVids]

Have you tried increasing texture sampling? I have it set to 6 x 6.

[@versaleyang]

Turn Anisotropic Filtering to 16x, that's what responsible for quality of flat textures in the distance.

[@Tee-zt4wr]

about G2, is it possible to view live youtube flights in cockpit

[@BamTechVids]

i;'m looking to that. like MoveVR for the Rift.

[@snagardev]

Defiantly an essential thing to have in long flights :-)

[@BamTechVids]

you should be able to hit the windows button your your g2 controller, this will bring a menu that will allow you to launch MS-Edge browser.. access YT or other sites from there.

[@palamud]

I haven't done any testing, but I think it's better for HP Reverb users to run MFS2020 without Steam VR if you can, just WMR and OpenXR. Otherwise, set both global and per app resolution scaling in SteamVR to 100% as it is shown in this great guide and use in game and OpenXR scaling, assuming that 100% is really 100% in SteamVR, which might not be the case.

[@BamTechVids]

Yes. You are correct.

[@macmagic21]

great guide. The openXR seems to have no impact at all on my G2. Is this on the fly or does FS need a restart after one changes openXR Settings?

[@BamTechVids]

Pretty sure you have to restart

[@constantine6313]

i downloaded the openxr just now from the Microsoft Store, but doesn't have that slider.

[@BamTechVids]

There is a version that has it.

[@Jan-1337]

Maybe a stupid question but you ticked the Box "custom Render scale"?

[@constantine6313]

I did, but doesn't have a slider

[@silvera-]

How was the clarity of instruments while flying this? I mean you can read the gauges well with G2? Great video by the way!

[@BamTechVids]

Yes, when you have the sweet spot focused on any area of the panel it’s clear. Thanks for watching!

[@MrHughes500]

Thanks your helpful video.

[@BamTechVids]

thanks for watching and sharing

[@davidneraas750]

I have a 1080ti as well it's good to see that you dont need 3070 , 3080, og even 3090 to enjoy vr.:).

[@BamTechVids]

thanks for watching David.. i would say that a 3080 would allow you to increase the quality of resolution and improve frametime but the 1080ti is definitely usable.

[@AlexAlex-do3mb]

Do you have a link for the latest version of OpenXR? I cannot find the one with the slide bar

[@BamTechVids]

Google OpenXR and look for the DL on Microsoft site.

[@macmusica]

G2 Revelation - you can use this in total Darkness with ALL Directions Tracking by OpenXR Previously without OpenXR you could Track in the complete dark but you lose the Z-Axis (forward/back) for any in SteamVR. I thought at first it was a Hardware issue but so pleased it is not.

[@BamTechVids]

Thanks for sharing!

[@ZenonZolek]

Very informative thanks, HP Reverb G2 VR is driving me nuts one day it's OK next day garbage

[@BamTechVids]

sorry to hear that. thanks for checkiung out the video

[@MadsGranumMusic]

Spot on. Thanks. Is your i76700 overclocked?

[@BamTechVids]

Thanks for watching. Nope. Can’t over clock it.

[@FlyingCsongor]

Since it's a non-K CPU it can't be overclocked.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

in the openXR program, can the render slider be adjusted while in flight or is it a set first then fly deal? My CPU was showing very low while flying into a less rendered airport but when at Seattle it was pretty choppy... CPU getting hammered at seattle but not pegged but at a midwest airport it was 12 percent. its not a great CPU (6800K) and my video card is about like yours, it's just a 2080TI and I know yours is a 1080TI (they are about the same capability) and i had lots of room to play with on the GPU at the smaller airport too. So i flew at OpenXR being set to 80 then tried 85. I have my VR glasses (G2) set to 100% as you suggested.. ive had then all the way to 200% while playing games like Halo Recruit and Pavlov. But Flight Sim is a whole different animal. I need to make sure Im on the CPU1, it was cut off so Im not sure what CPU i was seeing. Thanks for any advice.

[@BamTechVids]

You have to cycle out of VR mode, then engage VR mode again for the OpenXR settings to take effect. Try 50% in OPENXR with reprojection disabled and 90 or 100% rendering in MSFS VR graphics setting.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@BamTechVids what's the difference between "90 or 100 percent rendereing in MSFS VR" and the WMR "settings", rendering setting slider?

[@markm75]

With my 3080ftw3 and beech baron 350i test, the only clean looking and good frames I could get was to set in Sim to 100 render scale and openxr to 50 percent with motion reprojectiob disabled or you'll get warped fish eye. This allowed cranking Sim settings

[@BamTechVids]

Thanks for watching and sharing.

[@JonFlyTV]

Hey Bambino. Any idea how to get Twitch chat inside the reverb ?

[@BamTechVids]

hey JonFly.. you should be able to hit the windows button your your g2 controller, this will bring a menu that will allow you to launch MS-Edge browser... and you should be able to pull up the twitch chat window in Edge.

[@JonFlyTV]

@@BamTechVids Thank you! Works well!

[@goedtepasse1]

Verry helpfull! One question though. U are using steamvr with openxr and the slider ingame, is that all necessary? I dont use steamvr atm, only the openxr tool, and the slider ingame. But if there is a benefit of using steamvr next to it, id like to know😊. Keep up the good work man.

[@BamTechVids]

Seems like you don’t need to run SteamVr if you’re using OpenXR for MSFS VR.

[@goedtepasse1]

Thnx for the reply. Then il just use openxr.

[@armanvd8041]

What settings would you recommend to me? I’m trying to get this to work but it’s pretty hard, and I do not have a lot of knowledge on this topic. My hardware: VR: HP Reverb G2 CPU: Intel I7-10750H 10th gen GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060 RAM: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz

[@BamTechVids]

this article is a good place to start when optimizing MSFS 2020 for VR.. forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vr-bang-for-buck-performance-guide/315982

[@claudemonteilh4045]

I have a Hp reverb G2 headset whose sound and mic no longer work when I start FS 220 in VR mode. I only hear a small crackle. I cannot find the correct setting. Do you have any solutions ? Thanks for your help

[@BamTechVids]

Contact HP support. Sounds like a hardware issue.

[@claudemonteilh4045]

I don’t think it is a hardware issue because it works with other apps except FS 220

[@jamessusbilla]

thank *YOU*

[@BamTechVids]

Welcome!

[@EasyEaves]

Thanks for the video, but even with my 3070ti 32gb of memory and my 7700k @ 4.8ghz i dont get a comfortable fps rate in vr.

[@BamTechVids]

you should be fine with that PC,

[@simenbo797]

@bambinotech I have a rtx 3080, i-9 9900k. G2 reverb. Msfs almost all settings on ultra, high. Render scale in fs 100, tried 50-100 in openxr. Sweet spot center the instruments is clearly visible, but takes a second for eye to adapt and get focus. Peripherals are blurry and especially the terrain doesn't seem to be as crisp as i was hoping. Is this to be expected or is there something i can tweak?

[@BamTechVids]

seems to be the design. not aware of any tweaks. the G2 has a definite sweetspot that we need to try to stay in.. comes down to more head movement rather that eye movement.

[@simenbo797]

@@BamTechVids yeah, unfortunately. What bothers me the most though is that the terrain/runways on approach is a bit blurry and not crisp (like on a 4k display)...even on max settings. Thanx for all the vids!

[@gerrixx9704]

Hi, with my HP Reverb G2, I have an yellow dot in the center of my view playing MSFS2020. Anyone have an idea, how I can remove this "center dot" ?

[@BamTechVids]

If it’s on all games/apps then it sounds like a display flaw. If that’s the case prob should contact HP support

[@JaVAPicard]

question were do you find the open XR beta ? it seems I don't have the version with the slider option . thanks in advance .

[@BamTechVids]

I had the older version installed. Went to MS store and DLed new version with slider

[@SurfVR]

Also remember to have the reverb connected while starting it up

[@jonmason9024]

How does one measure/monitor frame consistency?

[@BamTechVids]

frame time. XP11 has this metric. not sure about MSFS

[@moodyhamel5677]

How to get MSFS window that small, when I launch mine it’s full screen and I can’t get pit off full screen to view other windows, please let me know how if anyone knows how to have a minimum window for the sim. Thanks

[@BamTechVids]

I have it set to “windowed” mode in the “PC” graphics option. Then you can resize the window.

[@Incommensurabilities]

Edit: found the link in the description 😂 slightly surprised it didn't come up in Google Would you mind posting a link to the guide? It's not coming up for me

[@BamTechVids]

glad u found it.

[@andrewmorton9327]

I’ve got a PC with an Intel i9 CPU a GTX3090 GPU with 24gb and 64gb of RAM. When I plug in the Reverb G2 and run the Mixed Reality portal it tells me that it doesn’t have a driver for the headset and then goes looking for it. It never finds it. It can’t be my setup which is the problem so can anyone suggest what’s wrong?

[@BamTechVids]

did you download and install the G2 drivers? suggest posting your question on the VR Aviators FB group or in the reddit G2 sub.

[@andrewmorton9327]

@@BamTechVids Weirdly I can’t find any G2 drivers on the HP site.I’ll try posting on the sites you suggested. Thanks.

[@andrewmorton9327]

@@BamTechVids Mixed Reality Portal says it's downloading them but never completes even after hours of waiting.

[@Mustis1524]

This is so frustrating. I'm running a RTX 2080 OC, 9900K @5GHz, 32gb 3600MHz. I've got the G2, have followed all the guides, got OpenXR even down to 50% with reprojection on. I've got that one older GPU driver that supposedly works best, along with recommended settings in nvidia control panel, game mode off etc. Got everything in game set to low or off with render scaling down to 50%. Even with all of that it is completely unplayable. I'd guess I get maybe 15fps max and get a horrible black border on the edges of the screen following me around whenever I look around... I know I shouldn't expect great performance but I don't understand how my performance can be this bad. It should at least be somewhat playable at these settings right? I just don't get it.

[@BamTechVids]

Yes. Suggest joining VRAviators FB group and ask for help there. 3k people willing to help. Could be a prob with the G2 if you have a constant black border.

[@jmonaghan10]

I cannot get this calibration rendering tool in openxr wmr how do I update to the latest release

[@BamTechVids]

DL from the microsoft store

[@constantine6313]

The latest version seems like doesn't have it. I just downloaded it from the MS store, but doesn't have that slider.

[@andrefinken]

it seems to me that you're turning the render scaling down to 85% in the VR-App and then you turn it further down to 70% in MSFS. Isn't it like you turn the renderscaling down to 70 percent of 85 percent?

[@BamTechVids]

perhaps. thx for watching

[@andreasbeyer9921]

Will the Reverb G2 run with AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, B550, 32 GB and the RADEON rx5700xt nitro+ with mid resolution?

[@BamTechVids]

thanks for watching

[@somilgupta8203]

Is SteamVR still necessary if I have the store version of MSFS?

[@BamTechVids]

i don't think so.

[@makis2811]

How do u put it in windowed mode when in VR??

[@BamTechVids]

In settings select window mode.

[@makis2811]

@@BamTechVids thanks; is that in the main settings before you start a flight? Ah never mind found it! Was looking at the vr tab and not the pc one . Thanks!

[@ivanteece]

Hold alt and press enter

[@desert1791]

I use my HP Reverb G2 for Microsoft flight simulator 2020 and I don't get high-resolution because I have very loud GPU and CPU Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 and I want to buy new pc if you know exactly which one work with HP Reverb G2 VR let me know and send me a link I'll be appreciated thank you so much.

[@BamTechVids]

I suggest checking out HP’s recommendations for PC specs for the Reverb g2. It will be on the product page on their website. Thanks.

[@desert1791]

@@BamTechVids send me a link please. 🤲

[@BamTechVids]

@@desert1791 suggest using Google.

[@nexe7271]

Could this be applied for valve index as well?

[@BamTechVids]

I believe Value Index is going to need SteamVR

[@straizys]

wait wait.. you telling you can play it on g2 while I can't run it on flat screen even on my rtx3080 normally. it's absolutely unplayable on my g2.. tried downscaling to 70 low medium settings .. view is like from 2000 and barely hits 40fps

[@BamTechVids]

yes. i can fly MSFS in VR with a G2 with a 1080ti

[@straizys]

@@BamTechVids tried today this developer tool that you are using.. became playable though very disappointing still. good graphics starts there where basically fps drops to 27.. you need to have two rtx3090 to properly play this

[@Carlovfx]

Pls people, this guy is a really good mate but dont use those settings, find your own.

[@BamTechVids]

ok thanks for sharing

[@ericveschi4904]

So the best way, is it to avoid the steam version?

[@BamTechVids]

No. I haven’t come across a reason not to buy MSFS through steam.

[@ericveschi4904]

@@BamTechVids perhaps because Steam VR isn't yet openXR ready and could be able to have a major Impact on FPS with demanding games It's a question :) I've seen some problems on DCS with the 100% scale on Steam. I had several issues in sound due to Steam VR to prioritize the image than the sound. I put it at 50% and climb the super sampling in DCS at 1.5 instead 1, and my DCS has a better frame rate and the same image quality.

[@EricRReyes-sh1st]

Just bought the HP Reverb G2. Looking for a computer that can maximize this experience. No computer tech skills. Will a ALIENWARE AURORA R11 GAMING DESKTOP with these components meet the demands? (10th Gen Intel® Core™ i9 10900F (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 2.8GHz to 5.2GHz w/Thermal Velocity Boost) NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3090 24GB GDDR6X memory 32GB Dual Channel HyperX™ FURY DDR4 XMP at 2933MHz; up to 64GB (additional memory sold separately) hard drive 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (Boot) + 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage). Thanks !! Eric

[@BamTechVids]

thats about as beefy a PC you can get. should be dandy

[@rowo89]

how can i check my fps when i play vr?

[@BamTechVids]

Not sure. I never check FPS.

[@Killswitch1411]

you don't have to be in Steam Vr to run Flight Sim with the Reverb G2.

[@BamTechVids]

Gotcha. Thanks

[@dabneyoffermein595]

yes, having it open will slow your frame rates too , it will eventually shut it self to gray instead of green

[@snagardev]

Thanks for the info, if it is OK I'll add the link to the forum: forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vr-bang-for-buck-performance-guide/315982

[@BamTechVids]

thanks for watching

[@jameslee-pevenhull5087]

It's NOT a dashboard ! It's a glare shield.

[@BamTechVids]

Please dude. Thanks for watching.

[@vonnflikk4468]

FFS dontuch the fakking render sacale. thats the mindcraft setting!!!

[@BamTechVids]

thanks for watching

[@Dg-zj6jo]

jerrky right from the start

[@BamTechVids]

thanks for watching