Microsoft Flight Simulator | VR Review | Quest 2 vs Reverb G2

[@zetapal]

I have both of these and the big difference between these two headsets is that Quest 2 has a usb3 port and G2 has Display port 1.4. That means that there is an additional layer of compression and decompression in the Quest 2 that you have to deal with if you're going to be using it for PCVR games. This compression not only tends to 'fuzzy up' the image but also introduces latency ... about 25 milliseconds worth on a good day. It CAN work, it IS doable but your experience is going to tend to be mediocre and you'll have to fiddle with the bitrates and such ... there is a lot to learn about what is going on in that extra layer of compression and you'll try all manner of settings and filters to try and optimize it. G2 on the other hand is very straight forward. The connection is fast, the image is crisp, the sound is fantastic, and the unit is comfortable out of the box. The only thing you'll be watching is trying to keep your milliseconds below 11 to play at 90Hz native refresh rate and adjusting your render rate. It's so easy to work with and get right compared to Quest 2 for PCVR. Hopefully Quest 3 won't be such a pain in the backside and the pancake lenses will make the experience worth fooling with the compression thing, which will still be there but hopefully be more manageable with the more powerful XR2 gen2 chip, the newly supported AV1 codec, and the 6e wifi .

[@Aku77777]

I sold my G2 after a week. The sweet spot is a joke! Any slight movement off the sweet spot and the image is a blurry mess. Oh and the FOV is very small. The only good thing about the G2 is the resolution.

[@surfman88]

Same here. Very blurry outside cockpit and a strain on my nose...

[@Verociity]

I have both a G2 and Q2 and the G2 has a slightly bigger FOV but only because I removed the face gasket and stuck a face cover directly onto the headset, huge improvement for $5.

[@ciucasg.3522]

What is sweet spot? And what is fov also?

[@marksmith2913]

Too bad you gave up on it so soon. I originally found the sweet spot small too but after spending a few minutes adjusting the straps and head band the sweet spot now fills about 80% of the field of view and the other 20% is only slightly blurry. It now looks amazing!

[@izaiahedwards-burnett2585]

@@marksmith2913 I know right, I'm the exact same. Clear as, sweet spot is most my screen

[@santossouza8305]

i have quest 2 must 4 year no issues all end hp heverb g2 pice crapy i thange cable g2 3 tmes end now i have issues my lens rigth side

[@lloydyt1]

yes i returned mine, it was nice to see the run ways a tad bit clearer only bit though nothing to get excited about, i got sick of seeing all the roads and James bond cars in the water, and tbh it still had screen door that sweet spot is so delicate if your headset is not super tight to your hear it just goes and all a blur again, 3080ti i7 coffee lake Rio landing demo terrible jitter on approach and not that built up so sod that back to rift s. No wonder the all HP reverb G2 on ebay

[@DarkWatcher-Gaming]

Hi I ordered a reverb g2 v2 and i want to know if there is some kind of camera to capture what is in front of us, like text in the the tv for not have to take out the vr and put again. thanks

[@gageboy14]

If you look hard enough you can find the reverb g2 much cheaper. I just got mine from place called Trendfort depot for $262.00 and its literally brand new. I believe they are used or refurbished. HP had them for $300 on sale at Xmas.

[@danielbuser9390]

Hello, Thank you for your super video! Just a quick question please: I saw that with my Nvidia geforce gtx 1660 graphics card it says : half resolution for the HP Reverb G2! It means that it's not worth buying the HP for its better resolution compared to the Meta Quest 2, because it will not have this better resolution and only the half? Thank you for your advice. Daniel Genève

[@zetapal]

The 1660 is a great card but you're going to have to upgrade it if you want a decent VR experience, basically as high as you can afford. Not only are you basically asking the gpu to render two 4k screens but you're render resolution should be higher than 100%, like 140%, to get the best image due to barrel distortion. Cheers !

[@smezey]

i think i might get the g2 without the controllers since i dont need them for a racing sim, can you set the g2 up without the controllers? or do you need them in order to do stuff?

[@diulay]

No matter what I tried, I always get some stuttering in the cockpit, outside is perfectly fine, but the cockpit isn’t smooth. Any hint?

[@macbrush]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS Both Quest 2 and HP G2.

[@OnlyVRBabe]

Same experience for me also using Quest 2 and Rift S. I've had a better experience with Rift S set to performance mode in Oculus settings .On the Quest 2 the cockpit stuttering is annoying no matter what settings I use .I've watched dozens of "MSFM Settings guides" And nobody seems to mention the frustrating Cockpit jitter !Im running a 2070 super and Ryzen 3600x so I don't expect the best graphics but as you mentioned the ground scenery runs smooth but head movement is broken.My current solution is to significantly reduce render scale . But then everything becomes a Smooth but blurry mess.I really want to use Quest 2 for the better resolution and virtually no screen door effect (Every other PCVR Game I play is with Quest 2 over Link/Air Link or VD smooth as a gravy sandwich.and crystal clear.MSFS Is a bastard to run but still very poorly optimised despite the recent updates.

[@oldrocker71]

I remember the bold Steve (VR Flight Sim Guy) reviewing MSFS on His 1080ti using Reverb G2 And Rift S .He never once mentioned cockpit stuttering on either headset? Either he didn't notice or as I suspect He was terrified to mention it as he was privileged to be a Beta Tester and didn't want to derail the freebee gravy train! Remember Asobo were reluctantly dragged kicking and screaming to implement VR .So a botched job is to be expected.! However the potential is evident .We Just need a few flight Sim KZbinrs to give more honest videos instead of studying views and algorithms.!

[@gameingo]

@@OnlyVRBabe Press ctrl+1 during flight

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

So exciting, my G2 arrives today. After using my Quest2 for months on MSFS I can’t wait to see this thing in action

[@madsib5187]

Jamie, what specs do you have and what is your experience now after 1 month with Reverb g2? I am so sad I can't fly the airliners in VR with my quest 2 since there are major stutters, unless I turn down the resolution to an extent that I can't read anything anymore 😭

[@punkish7]

I would also be interested in your views on the G2 now that you have it. Thanks!

[@cpt-starfleet372]

​@punkish7 not good tracking sucks cord is very heavy and a light shines on the lens

[@avii8786]

What area did you fly over in the video? And is the location of the thumbnail nearby. Because I would like to fly there.

[@simondavies9350]

Just been googling around as am thinking of pulling the plug on the Q2 and your info as per is greatly appreciated. Finding a G2 now is the next issue cheers for all your vids ✌️❤️☮️

[@simondavies9350]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS I’ve followed all your settings religiously and they’ve been a great help, the ice breaker was the NiS scaler tool works great for me RTX3090 so I’m getting greedy after long debating the G2 I think it’s time to take the plunge. I can’t justify the cost of Varjo Aero as I’ve got another expensive hobby in PRS guitars so I think your vid just made my mind up. Nothing wrong with the Q2 think it’s come a long way but am after that extra clarity. Thanks for all the info without these handy videos I’d end up with a Sinclair ZX81 ✌️❤️☮️

[@simondavies9350]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS thanks I’ll be badgering you no doubt when I find one. Martins don’t come cheap, think we’ve got 2 expensive hobbies. Appreciate the stuff you put out it’s a great help. Cheers✌️❤️☮️

[@desert1791]

I use my HP Reverb G2 for Microsoft flight simulator 2020 and I don't get high-resolution because I have very loud GPU and CPU Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 and I want to buy new pc if you know exactly which one work with HP Reverb G2 VR let me know and send me a link I'll be appreciated thank you so much.

[@simboodamn]

If you want something more powerful than a 1080ti, get a new computer. Your computer will be the bottleneck for anything higher than a 1080ti. You will not benefit from 100% of the performance a 3080 can offer you with your old computer.

[@andrewjamez]

Can you ditch those vr controllers and use the mouse? Or does the mouse curser not show in vr mode?

[@Pilotfredish]

Yes, of course. You can mixed use both mouse and controller the same time.

[@gjmcgee]

I’ve been using a Quest 2 for months. Recently I got a PC and MSFS and I’ve tried using with my Quest. I’m gonna be honest, it’s awful for MSFS. For any other game though it’s great. The inconsistency of the frame rate and crashes and bugs, ruin the experience.

[@gjmcgee]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS dude seriously thx so much for your help with my multiple different comments!

[@gjmcgee]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS will do!

[@Goryglory0209]

But I dont know man Quest 2 with link cable seems so trash jaggy. I am ordering G2 to use it just for PC.

[@ahnsangjun7028]

Do you connect your Q2 to the PC with the oculus cable? (the expensive one).When I try to use mine for MSFS (on Xbox Game Pass of PC), it says "VR not connected". I still tried to play on it but it feels like im just looking at a flat screening as if I am playing this on a monitor.

[@ahnsangjun7028]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS thank you so much, will definitely try that tonight :)

[@ahnsangjun7028]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS Wow, can't wait! I am super excited as I am from Seoul, Korea. Was actually thinking about getting the "Seoul City Wow" created by SamScene3D.

[@ahnsangjun7028]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS That's amazing, really can't wait!!! I hope to see my old home, Lotte Castle Gold, which is right next to Lotte World Tower :)

[@punkish7]

Very much appreciate you content, has been a big help to me while trying to decide what to do for VR and MSFS. VR Flight Sim Guy posted a great vid "through the lens" showing sweet spot between G2 and Q2. In the vid the sweet spot in the G2 looked awful, just so blurry everywhere except dead center of the sweet spot. Is this something you have experienced? Do you simply get used to moving your head more to keep sweet spot centered? Seems like that is one of the big trade-offs a person has to make between the two headsets - smaller but clearer sweet spot, or larger but possibly less clear sweet spot. I do like the fact the G2 can be connected directly to GPU, and the added link between FB and the Q2 is disconcerting to say the least.

[@maxmaxed2887]

Even today?

[@tamupino]

Thanks for the review! Do you feel that there's any noticeable/functional difference in the FOV between the two?

[@santiagoluib3]

I Only have 1080Ti. A lot of reviews tell me it won't cut it with tis GPU :(

[@juk3b0xgr1m]

1080ti is no slouch. it's benchmarking just about the same as the 3070 so should be enough to run the G2

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

@@juk3b0xgr1m No - I have a 3080 from a 1080ti and it makes a HUGE difference - 3070 is not far off a 2080ti.

[@juk3b0xgr1m]

@@MagicAyrtonforever wrong. 2080ti is 30% faster than the 3070. 3070 is 16% faster than 1080ti which to me is marginal. gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3070-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4083vs3918

[@sephiroth4543]

@@juk3b0xgr1m 1080Ti = 2070 super or 2080 in some games and not the 3070 lol

[@tb100]

I actually find the sound on my Quest 2 very good, much better than the Rift S and so good that I've stopped using plug-in earbuds. Sometimes I have a fan on nearby and I'm completely unaware of it when in VR. Connecting with the PC can be a bit finicky, but the wireless convenience with Airlpay is fantastic. Waiting for Reverb G2 to go on sale, $599 is a bit pricey for me.

[@privi889]

does it make a difference between quest 2 128gb and 256gb? or not?

[@tb100]

@@privi889 Not at all. You’re not using the Quest’s memory when connected to PC. So you can save some money and get the cheaper one.

[@privi889]

@@tb100 thank you!

[@trumplostlol3007]

Quest 2 being cheap is not really true. You need to upgrade everything for it to even work like reverb G2. Head strap replacement, battery replacement, audio replacement, ... If you already have a gaming PC, that quest 2 is pretty useless as a standalone cause all the OLD PCVR games on Quest 2 are EXPENSIVE and graphically worse.

[@8odycount]

What's your average FPS with the reverb?

[@8odycount]

Ugh. That would unplayable for me. I am used to 120 FPS at least and I am suffering from motion sickness very fast. Even on normal monitors. :/

[@keyserjose]

I got my Reverb G2 yesterday. Everything works fine with it on MSFS2020 but, man, the sweet spot is awful. I get sick trying to read the gauges and different screens. It's blurry just a few mm away. I'd get a Quest 2 but the fact that it lacks a DP output makes que computer encode everything twice, that's why Quest 2 performs worse for PCVR than G2.

[@keyserjose]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS did you also suffer headaches? I did a small 30 min. flight like 2h ago and, man, my head is going to explode. I'm having the worst headache ever :(

[@keyserjose]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS thanks a lot! I’ll give it another go. Take care!

[@JohnSmith-rq8hw]

@@keyserjose hey are you still getting headaches? How’s it been so far?

[@keyserjose]

@@JohnSmith-rq8hw I ended up returning the headset after reading more comments of people with the same issue on Reddit ;(

[@tuttoto]

Hum… so far I use MSFS with a Quest2 (no accessories beyond usb3-c cable), and a 16gb laptop with a 1660ti… it is perfectly usable and once fine tuned, very smooth, and it never crashes now … (of course low-med details only) I have observed 2 things on my configuration though: first, I don’t use the sound of the headset because on my machine if I move my head fast, it triggers cracks and noise and stuttering frame rates… which disappeared when using the sound from the computer . Second, MSFS is the only game forcing me to restart my computer after having used it… it is not releasing video ram correctly, then after a few hours , I have to restart the laptop if I want it to keep running smoothly and I won’t be able to play other games as « not enough vram left » message will keep appearing until I restart. I will switch to a 3090 desktop to see if those issues will remain.

[@tuttoto]

@@PIEINTHESKYTOURS the 3090@1980 with a 10700k@5.16 have changed a LOT of things… impossible to switch back to my laptop now…

[@raymondtsang]

Thank you for your videos. Wished i watch this video beofre i got my quest 2. Too late now... Hopefully developer will fix those bugs for quest 2. I do agree the plug and play part.

[@piotrkonopka8773]

That is interesting. My experience is exactly opposite. No problem with Quest 2 and a lot of problems with Reverb G2. It was so annoying that finally I sold G2 and stayed with Quest 2.

[@Pe11ePD]

Possibly because USB ports are not getting enough power. G2 is known that requires a lot of power from a USB connection.

[@gageboy14]

My first reverb was the cable problem. Got a second with updated cable with no problems.

[@adiil2014]

Nice video, keep going

[@DurgaDas96]

Not sure what the point of this review is.

[@smezey]

so people know what to buy dumbass

[@DurgaDas96]

I will never buy a Quest 2 as long as Facebook is needed.

[@BingsBuddery]

Jesus, you play in VR with that jerky-ass framerate? I'd puke all over the room.