TTL the Most Expensive VR - XTAL 8k vs Reverb G2 vs Quest 2!

[@Tyrielwood]

The Most Expensive vs the Cheapest :P let's see how it goes!

[@mackattack9650]

hi :D

[@paulMang5000]

Nice review! Can you swap out that crazy expensive XTAL 8K for the valve Index? Doesn't hurt to ask right? :) thanks again for the cool vid!

[@tomohm8079]

You are the YT king of the "through the lenses" videos!!!! Amazing how well the Quest can do against the big boys. I wonder myself how well the Pimax 8KX would stack up in this comparison... but right now I'm enjoying my G2 with Knuckle controllers!!!

[@jjeeqq]

How you managed to get oculus and Black levels show as black on this video? I have them both and they are lot lighter screens than on video.

[@mikael3201]

Please compare with Pimax and Varjo.

[@guybrushthreepwood3002]

Had my G2 yesterday, huge improvement over my Rift S, mind blown

[@osairqable]

I have the G2 and can say I never had any major issues with. Glad to see it's still king!

[@sterben5405]

I've had a few issues with it but nothing I couldn't overcome, love it to death.

[@bboyturbo99]

Any Problems with the controller tracking?

[@vrkambarys2062]

Admit, controllers and tracking is trash

[@tomohm8079]

Include me... loving my G2 but I don't use the controllers that come with it. Depending on the game and/or situation, I either use Valve knuckle controllers or the Samsung O+ controllers with my G2. I don't even like the feel of the G2 controllers.

[@osairqable]

@@bboyturbo99 No, but recently the headset sees the world tilted and I'd have to reset my room entire boundary. I'm pretty sure it is my current room setup but I haven't really looked into finding a solution cause a moving soon.

[@Nischal_Kandel]

Reverb g2 looks better than xtal8k wow.

[@mariocart2wrholder]

Xtal8k's point is 8k, g2's point is just good vr

[@christiancollins4726]

Facts

[@rwlauterbach]

And the quest2 is somehow holding its own at 5 percent of the xtal8ks price.

[@steve_ire321]

yes, but take into consideration that the xtal's FOV is almost full human vision. so the res is more spread out and still looks nearly on par. The G2 still has that scuba goggle feel to it.

[@pondracek]

@@rwlauterbach Not quite. The Quest 2 is an impressive product after 4 years of Oculus dragging its feet. It's a compelling standalone and wireless PC VR headset, that neither of the other two here are capable of. But as a wired PC VR headset, it sucks. Non-native encoded signals steal GPU horsepower, add extra latency, and if we're talking Oculus link, introduce compression that isn't present over wifi (VirtualDesktop). Maybe that's a sacrifice you're willing to make at this price point. But if we're strictly comparing technology independent of price, I think I'd even rate the Vive Cosmos+SteamVr tracking, wired and wireless, as superior.

[@RichardJWZ]

I have had the G2 for about a month now and it's a crazy good headset for the price, really enjoying it. Great video!

[@wertwester5473]

Any issues with tracking ?

[@RichardJWZ]

@@wertwester5473 it sometimes looses tracking maybe once per 30/60 min but it snaps back pretty quick.

[@josephzee]

Can't believe how good the reverb is . Greatest hide.

[@cryptohouse1676]

yes, but take into consideration that the xtal's FOV is almost full human vision. so the res is more spread out and still looks nearly on par. The G2 still has that scuba goggle feel to it.

[@derekbancarz4530]

Sold my quest 2 one week after getting the reverb g2. Once you see the clarity there is just no going back. Racing after 30mins in the quest started to strain my eyes. I raced for 3 hours straight in the G2 and I'm perfectly fine. That alone is worth the extra money. I'm a GAMER and just couldnt game too long in the quest 2. G2 is incredible!

[@ikonane]

Thumbs up for DCS comparison!

[@jamesthorogood1479]

Surely this is because the FOV is much wider on the XTAL?

[@dennisrichards2540]

*This*

[@Panurg81]

pixel density beats fov any day

[@dennisrichards2540]

​@@Panurg81 What you want is an 8K monitor, the trick is to get the smallest screen size (better pixel density) edit: Another option is a high end smartphone, you can get a 4K displays, however the screen is much smaller so the pixel density is pretty crazy.

[@Krandong]

@@Panurg81 Can't say I agree, I feel myself much less immersed because I can't see very much at the same time personally, claustrophobic almost.

[@Cazanu417]

​ tf 8kx with 140 fov shits on g2,almost the same exact pixel density little less color saturation but without the feeling of looking trough 2 toilet paper rolls literally worth every penny

[@JUDALATION]

WOW! ill stick with my G2... Thanks!

[@tuner7961]

I love my G2 also, but that 180° fov thooo

[@colemin2]

@@tuner7961 I'm just glad that 180° is possible so now we know that tech will come to us peasants soon.

[@zacjohnson452]

@@colemin2 I bet in 5 years tops it will trickle down to affordable headsets, which is really exciting!

[@justinspirational]

Get the pimax 8kx.. virtually the same clarity of the g2 with the xtal's field of view.. once you experience the much wider, more immersive fov there is no going back..I tried both the 8kx and xtal in person at CES in January 2020 and actually preferred the much cheaper 8kx

[@bobdole2184]

@@justinspirational you are paying a pretty penny for the loss of comfort built in audio in exchange for field of view though.

[@CameronPenner]

I would love to see these videos with a 360 camera or something, so we could see how wide the fov goes. That's one thing that's always missing in these, and I think it's really important as well.

[@georgelopez9411]

Surprised to see the G2 with much more accurate colors than the two other headsets. Do you have the Pimax 8kX? Would love to see it compared to the XTAL 8k and what differences there are between them. Hardware-wise, the biggest difference between them is the lenses (aspherical vs fresnel), and I would love to see how it influences the image in each of these cases.

[@blizado3675]

specially i would to know how it is with godrays... i hate them on my G2 (it's more a shine from the lense edges to the middle, very strong if you have something darker in the middle and brighter on the edge).

[@btkger]

Thanks Tyriel, these videos are really handful for people like me that has no VR yet.

[@fatal_bull]

Very happy with my HP Reverb 2.. this just reaffirms I made the right choice!

[@yamabushi170]

I've got a gen 1 reverb and still absolutely love it to pieces. I'll need to see a significant step forward in clarity and fov before I upgrade

[@mikechristie6446]

I have a G1 too, I'm very happy with it except my unusually large IPD gives me a weird overlap in the center of the image.

[@stdioinclude8012]

Your dcs comparison is very helpful. thank you!

[@Haider-mk7nm]

G2 looks amazing

[@kinkias]

How come the reverb looks sharper and the xtal looks like it has screendoor effect?

[@float32]

Xtal has double the FOV, so pixels per degree is about the same. Reverb is probably using a newer LCD tech/density.

[@aXque]

G2 is such a good headset, perhaps the best consumer VR headset when it comes to clarity.

[@anahata8870]

This was a lot of work , Thank you for that !

[@mattoomf]

G2 has the vibrancy and punch with colours that walks all over the Quest 2 and Xtal!

[@beanos2287]

He's using footage from the quest 2 before the version 23 update that added a variable bitrate which fixed the issue with the color as well as made the headset look far better.

[@louissivo9660]

This was a great comparison, thank you so much. Where I see my Quest 2 lacking, I come away impressed with how well it holds up against the more expensive models. Surprised that the XTAL wasn't that much better. In a few shots I thought the color and clarity were better from the Reverb. But the Quest, held it's own. (But I will give the win to the HP Reverb G2.) Of course the Quest offers other advantages...

[@BlackLotusV1]

I have to really agree with u on this!

[@beanos2287]

The quest isn't lacking, the reason that it seems to be so different from the g2 is because Tyriel for some unknown reason used footage of the quest 2 from before the V23 update was release. Check out his comparison between v23 quest 2 and old quest 2 and you will fully understand the difference.

[@tuttoto]

Well... so far my 1660ti with 9300h is not even able to feed the max Rez of my quest2... 1- will wait for 4080ti... to use quest2 fully 2- then will see what headset will be on the market at this time...

[@MrKerr808]

I've been with you since your beginning. Wow you have grown.

[@elnidogaming]

HP Reverb G2 by far! Thanks for all your efforts Tyriel!

[@float32]

G2 has half the FOV of the xtal. It’s not fair to look at a small portion of the screen with such a big difference in FOV.

[@elnidogaming]

@@float32 Good point

[@CarletonM]

Your quality is AMAZING!

[@jamnorge]

You are awesome bro! Thank you so much for all of your content!

[@datechnoman2]

Why does the text on the Reverb G2 look the clearest?

[@Seanweekhaizhen]

Because it has the highest pixel density. Even though the xtal has a higher overall resolution its spread out too much.

[@Aku77777]

I have a i7 9700k @5ghz and a Msi RTX 3080 trio .... I play on my sim racing rig with a Rift S. Going to pick up a G2 on sunday. Hope i can play at decent frames with the G2. Only want the G2 for my sim racing rig as i find the Rift S a bit blurry.

[@Afrotechmods]

Wow I was surprised by this! I guess we are at the stage now where the optics are more important than the LCD resolution.

[@cookiebob_]

Remember the 8k headset spreads its pixels out over a 180° FOV

[@lolitis01]

@@cookiebob_ also we're not seeing in 8k because it's 4k in each eye, which is not that big of a bump up from the reverb's resolution.

[@jjeeqq]

And Black levels being gray isn't problem for anyone

[@cookiebob_]

@@jjeeqq yup, less than you'd imagine

[@divBy0]

@@jjeeqq grey blacks are a problem for me. Its the one thing I really dislike about the quest 2

[@Avetorro]

Wow. I’m so glad after seeing this that I sent my quest 2 back and ordered a reverb g2. It’s like day and night. For flight sims there seems no other choice.

[@mattoomf]

I’d did the same but for Facebook reasons and have no regrets at all! Still have a Quest 1 for stand-alone with an Oculus account!!!!

[@TannarThompson]

this is where ppi comes into account. all those extra pixels to make 4k per eye is for wider fov, not clarity.

[@JLOFlix]

The G2 Really holds up well!!

[@mattoomf]

Whilst it initially seemed like an inconvenience the external power supply for the G2 really improves colours, contrast, vibrancy and brightness. If you buy any display / laptop etc resolutions may be the same so the quality of screen and brightness really makes the difference between budget and best in class.

[@bedney45]

Nice job! Thanks for all the hard work!

[@CaptainSchlockler]

I'm going to have to give that one to the G2

[@krisvogel3015]

loving my quest even more knowing how it holds up to top of the line headsets

[@DaveGilbertPhD]

thanks for all the hard work this took! fascinating. G2, with all its issues, is lookin' pretty good!

[@Fotografie-EigenART]

Thank you for your work! Very interesting! Good Video!

[@GAMER_PUNK247]

That reverb looks best most of the time

[@abdallahhanoun807]

the Reverb is way better in color reproduction while the other two went for a more blueish ton just to achieve higher brightness

[@zacjohnson452]

You can’t lie though, the quest 2 still looks great.

[@jeff-hd9og]

@@zacjohnson452 yeah for 300 dollars it’s pretty good

[@PCPAyLOAD]

Reverb G2 with a wider a field of view and I would be all in. Sold my Rift S because of the FOV.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Literally the only reason I didn't retire my Index for a G2. Well, and controllers, I guess.

[@TomBridle]

I'm amazed by the variance in white balance on different headsets. Are the photos all set to the same white balance and the difference is the headsets, or is the difference in colour down to changes of white balance in the photos?

[@TAC0FACE]

I got my G2 for free! The Price is Right! Now more money for an insanely priced gpu!! Screw that 8k headset, it looks 2x as big as a G2 or Quest2, gotta be heavy as balls!

[@Taijifufu]

To be fair it looks more like a sitting sim headset than a standing room-scale one.

[@wertwester5473]

Any issues with tracking ?

[@ArgosWarrior]

G2 is the best one.

[@GhlyMasta]

Wow, the Xtal definitely sacrifices on colours, contrast, and chromatic aberration. It’s like looking at everything through a pair of blue glasses compared to the more natural tones of the G2. I’m curious to see how the edge to edge clarity is on the headset.

[@MadSheogorath]

How would you compare these headsets in terms of clarity on the edges?

[@word2RG]

Thanks T.. great work.

[@nunosantos2015]

My reverb G1 still rolling

[@LordCakeskull]

Not gonna lie, this video ended the last of my Quest 2 buyers remorse.

[@rev0lut10nz]

Didn't have buyer's remorse but yeah... For 299, it's an amazing bit of kit,especially considering it seems to get a new feature added every month like 120hz, native VD support etc.

[@massimomelodia3670]

Thanks Sir. Good job !!!!! Great !! Reverb G2 forever ....👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@steve9189]

It's just a shame that the HP Reverb G2 does not work for a lot of people, especially people using the x570 chip set.

[@steve9189]

@@_Zane__ it seems that older chipset have a better success rate, but anything AMD may cause problems. HP and AMD are working on a fix but it's taking them months to get their act together.

[@saker6121]

Im on B550 and I work around it with running pci-e 3.0. Also some report success with add in usb cards.

[@mugen-6754]

Msi b550 Tomahawk and I don't have any problems with my G2 at all. Does it depend on the brand or is it something random?

[@steve9189]

@@mugen-6754 Glad you are having a good experience. It seems like the errors most people get are random and not to do with brand, but mainly from x570 chipsets.

[@saker6121]

@@mugen-6754 I'm not sure but there are many reddit threads about it and I believe this is with Nvidia 3000 series gpu's mainly.

[@KarlGosling]

Great comparison! Four things I noticed... No additional sharpness on the XTAL (to be expected as the panels are bigger hence the resolution increase), the G2's colours look very different to the other two, the sky in AC for example and then in ED it totally lost the orange bars around the text showing them as black?! There's a blue hue over the white with the XTAL when comparing text and finally the Q2 is definitely the worst for sharpness and colours but not by a lot which is good for a £299 HMD! :)

[@SPYD0R]

That excellent song is called Neon Raceway, by ELFL. Shazam saves the day again!

[@BonBonBonni]

Thanks Tyriel, thumbs up who enjoys the music the most! 👍😂

[@mikej6565]

I own several headsets and the Reverb G2 blows away the Quest 2 in my experience! (though, there's still much room to improve upon the G2) The only area I'd say the Quest 2 wins is it's ease of use.

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

xtal pushes the extra resolution towards bigger fov and the whole thing is just less clear. Other headsets seemingly has similar angular resolution but screen door effect varies.

[@rudlzavedno7279]

Reverb G2 PQ looks the best imho. It seems like it has 6500K color optimization (compared to colder Q2 and XTAL), decent contrast&blacks and surprisingly good clarity even compared to XTAL. I'm a bit disappointed I'm not blown away by XTAL's picture quality (besides small text readability), but having 180 FOV must be very, very nice. I hope we get wide fov in sub $1K VR market too asap :)

[@TommyVR]

Hi Tyriel. Great job on this video. Im suprised the g2 looks better than xtal, but then the 180 fov probably makes up for it alot. Im waiting for your review Im sure its probaböy amazing and it will not be long until commercial headsets will have these technologies for a reasonable price. Take care

[@melcrose]

Quest 2 looking GREAT for 300

[@androsforever500]

it's truly the best deal!

[@lucastonoli3256]

It's clearly being sold at a loss. So yeah, awesome bang for the buck.

[@lukehany5431]

Quest 2 is really good, but mine 2x(Factory date 08 and 12/20) with faulty lenses! Quality control is realy terrible! My eyes was hurt after 10 minutes

[@Reticuli]

too bad it gets laggy with PC

[@Reticuli]

@@lucastonoli3256 Highly unlikely.

[@ValMephora]

I would love to see a comparison starting with the first HMDs so that we can see the progress

[@RVecc]

Well... a couple of things i'd like to point out as i didn't hear it mentioned in the video and haven't seen it in the top few comments. 1) 2 3840x2160 panels is NOT the same as 8k. this head set is effectively 7680x2160. 8k resolution is 7680x4320. So, the headset is half 8k resolution... 2) the G2's resolution is 2160x2160. So it has the same vertical resolution as the XTAL. So, it's not surprising that it looks as good as the XTAL and sometimes exceeds the XTALs image quality. 3) The XTAL isn't giving you any additional image fidelity over the G2, it's giving you a MUCH wider field of view. Other than that, i say great video. I suspect there's something to do with sticking a camera inside a headset that doesn't capture the image fidelity of the headset properly... Maybe you need a probe lens, if you're not using one already that is. I imagine the it'll come down to the optics in the head sets to determine if the G2 or the XTAL has better image sharpness... oh and signal compression if there is any happening

[@clivewalpole]

It’s the horizontal resolution that defines 4k or 8k, not the vertical resolution. The Xtal also has the capability for eye tracking and foveated rendering. This is a huge benefit over other headsets as it allows you to run the native resolution of the headset without requiring a supercomputer!

[@brettcameratraveler]

Are the white balance differences between the headsets due to differences of each headset screen or because the TTL camera you are using is on auto, not manual white balance?

[@BlueBearOne]

Why does it look like a blue filter is over the XTAL?

[@Venlabax]

What is the best VR headset that money can buy right now? Is it a Varjo Aero for personal usage?

[@Kevin-iq1xc]

8K Is nice and all but I can barely run my g2 on 90 fps/high settings for ACC. And thats on a pretty decent set up.

[@sithianempire7445]

I'm mainly surprised how little difference there is between the headsets, considering the Quest 2's price point. Should've been like comparing a Tamaguchi to a Switch (if solely going by price).

[@zundapp70ccflaka]

Thanks for the video! I’m on the original vive and looking for a replacement. Got a 1080ti. I think a lot of people are in the same situation. Would be interesting with this comparison between the vive1 and the others. Keep the content coming!

[@senoctar]

It's named 8K because of the price right?

[@secton]

Love my G2!

[@wertwester5473]

Any issues with tracking ?

[@secton]

@@wertwester5473 I came from the Odyssey, so I have had years to get my lighting and hand behavior suitable for inside out tracking.

[@chrislysiak9561]

G2 wins hands down when it comes to the text. XTAL and G2 have different strengths and weaknesses when it comes to the rest but nothing can beat G2 for the price

[@technewseveryweek8332]

At $600 I wouldn't put Reverb G2 ahead of Quest 2 in price, features/$ or any price related metric. Although the visuals and audio are noticeably superior.

[@PichettoFratame]

Hi Ty, when you do these videos, do you set the Quest 2 render at 1.7x? If not, at which level? Thank you for the amazing videos as always

[@miko_un_]

G2 is the best, happy to see that my decision was right to buy a G2.

[@timosauter5245]

Bro what do you think about the g2? I bought a g2 1 week ago for $834 But the problem is my pc is he ready but not Killer like Im using : - i7-9700k - rx580 8 gb MSI (16 ram, AIO NZXT for cooling, just ssds) You know I mean it’s not that bad Setup but it seems like to be not enough, and it not possible to buy new graphics cards rn An im not that satisfied with the view (I’m playing with 45 FPS upscaled to 90 with a resolution of roundabout 1980x .... on each eye) Ist vor in General Not That Sharp as i thought, or ist probably just the bad graphicscard Do you have any advise for me, please ( I haven’t played that much games, but I tried Fallout, and Raw data. Cause I wanted to wait with half life until it looks perfect)

[@miko_un_]

@@timosauter5245 I would say there is no way around, you have to buy a new graphic card. Sorry to say that. All other hardware parts are ok. When you buy a new graphic card, buy one with enough VRAM. Most VR games in 4K Resolution use between 8 and 14Gb VRAM. Some 16 Gb VRAM and Half Life Alyx with maximum settings use 22 Gb VRAM, some times takes the whole 24 Gb VRAM space from my RTX 3090. If you want to see how much hardware usage the games use you can always go to my channel and watch some game plays, because I always use afterburner in the background or you can write me.

[@timosauter5245]

@@miko_un_ Yea that’s my problem, But rn you have to pay three times more than usual for the graphicscard And which one would you recommend like I personally wouldn’t enjoy to buy a card for 1 k That means a 3060/3080 would be possible without the increasing price

[@timosauter5245]

@@miko_un_ Oh and one thing My graphics are already set not that bad but it still looks bad Is it cause of the card for sure?

[@miko_un_]

@@timosauter5245 I can‘t really tell the performance from the RX580, but as you have told me it can’t handle well the full g2 resolution. I would little wait for release of the RTX3080Ti, it’s possible than that the price for the cards drop little bit. I would say that a 3080 would run well with the g2, but I can’t really tell you that HP write for full g2 resolution you need Nvidia 3070, 3080 or 3090 and of curse the up coming 3080 Ti will handle it well, for AMD HP says you need RX5700, RX5700XT or Radeon 7.

[@Domestos99percent]

why is the Quest 2 stuttering so much compared to G2 in Assetto?

[@demetrizuev258]

Was the Quest 2 footage captured through a link cable or virtual desktop? It seems that the image suffers from compression and washed out colors so I would assume it's the link capture, VD results should be better

[@GhlyMasta]

I can’t remember which video it was, but Ty mentioned that unless specifically noted, he does all his Quest shots via Link cable

[@demetrizuev258]

@@GhlyMasta I spent hours trying to make the image coming from Link cable any good, tweaking bitrate settings and everything, it still was bad. This is a subpar PC VR solution and it shows when directly compared to headsets that have actual displayport. Facebook needs to stop doing this and add a normal video port to Quest 3 or whatever successor is on the way

[@wildcard3233]

Great video very helpful 😁

[@pcjunkie939]

Still happy with my G2

[@blizado3675]

Impressive how good the G2 display is even against the XTAL. I don't if it is your recording and the white balancing on it, but i still love the colors of the G2 the most, they are near always more naturally. Quest 2 looks much more blueish, even the XTAL do. You can see it pretty good at the sky in the racing game. But clear, XTAL is good when you keep that large FOV in mind.

[@androsforever500]

I've had a G2 after using the Quest 2 with Virtual Desktop and a 5ghz wifi network and really didn't like how much smaller the fov was on the G2. Also going from complete wireless freedom to wired was a nono especially when visual quality wise it was extremely similar with the supersampling turned on in the Quest 2 and with enhanced colors and contrast turned on through Virtual Desktop. Now that I have a new Wifi 6 router the experience is nearly identical to wired and i am able to play Expert Plus seamlessly on Beat Saber with no hiccups. And when I want I play pcsx 2 games like Persona 3 laying down on my back in bed on a giant theater sized screen on the ceiling! I am loving it!

[@hakjie1112]

If there is an augmented AR/VR eyeball, I am sure Tyriel would review it.

[@TheYang2208]

to everyone wondering why the XTAL8K looks same as or worse than the reverb, remember it’s because it has a 180deg FOV so it’s spreading those pixels out much farther.

[@subhashnaik9034]

Does Oculus quest 2 support 8k 60fps videos...?

[@7rich79]

Of course, as you say that the camera doesn't capture the same as our eyes. It does seem the G2 is sharper. And again the Quest 2 is impressive. I thought perhaps the xtal showed very good colour accuracy in parts.

[@MRCroosingTootH]

G2 not a joke guys :p Haha its insane

[@zacjohnson452]

I would get one if: 1. I owned a PC 2. Had $750

[@Venserql]

@@zacjohnson452 I'd get one if tracking wasn't dogshit and it was capable at least 120Hz

[@ContentComposer]

@@Venserql says a person who hasn't tried G2 tracking. If it's dogshit, then Q2 tracking is little smaller pile of dog shit. The difference isn't that huge. A bigger problem is some compatibility issues.

[@danielsegewitz6956]

@@Venserql i personaly had no tracking issues with my G2. It even worked in fron of the christmas tree (HL Alyx) and the tracking also worked in an almost dark room (only 2 monitors and an rgb stripe were on)

[@JJCGE]

@@Venserql I've not had any tracking issues with my G2. You either haven't tried one or you weren't using it in the right environment.

[@Levirules]

Quest 2 always looks so choppy and the G2 looks so smooth in these videos, but they're both 90hz, right? Why is there such a difference in the fluidity? Especially in Asetto

[@rev0lut10nz]

I can guarantee you the quest 2 is ultra smooth in asseto corsa in reality

[@Levirules]

@@rev0lut10nz I don't doubt it, just wondering why it always shows up choppy in these videos

[@brokensword2621]

its me or XTAL 8k has some screen door effect ?

[@Berkay-xl4hu]

Reverb g2 is lifelike. Are the controllers still bad?

[@pitbullmaniac00]

Hi Tyriel very good videos and reviews I have a question if you can help me I have the odyssey+ Vr and I want to upgrade I love to play horror games that’s mean need deeper black as possible which one you recommend 🙏 thank you!

[@jeffreyreicher5241]

I’ll take the g2 over the stall and use the savings on a ton of games

[@bronks1200]

Damn. The G2 is killing it. If only the controllers didn’t suck. So stupid why didn’t HP just have Valve make them a Index controller that worked nativity with the G2s tracking. Even if it upped the price by $250 if would have been worth it. You get what you pay for. Oh and the fact that xtal is $8000 while it seems more on par with quest 2, confirms my suspension that these companies are just purposely trying to make VR inaccessible. They don’t want the video game market to change too much because of any hit to traditional profits. It’s like Megadodo said this hardware has not been that expensive for a long time.

[@fayney62]

It may look like the G2 has the advantage but you really have to try these headset's yourself to get a real understanding, for example the Xtal has a wider field of view than the others and is a more immersive experience so in a way its not really a fair comparison between the three headset's.

[@Levirules]

Headsets*

[@djtaylorutube]

The thing about the HP Reverb G2 is that it's the best Virtual Reality headset in the sense that it only exists in a virtual reality. Try buying one... not even available for order on the HP site here or in any stockist.

[@Break.]

The XTAL clearly is blurrier than both he headsets at the sides (8:00 shows this well at the right) Theres also other things that make it worse like the colour but a lot of other people have said that

[@ВикторСалимов-д2т]

G2 WINS

[@WilliamDeansPlumbingVentura]

Jeez give me the clarity of the G2 and the FOV of the xtal and 120hz and I'll be happy.

[@gamesinsight3800]

FOV would be very interesting. But you see only in some cases thst the Xtal outclasses the g2. I am not sure if the Sweetspot is so bad because of your camera that cannot display the full FOV of the Xtal. To me picture quality like the G2 is better... But given the small FOV and some other issues on the G2 it's still just the best Sweetspot. Quest 2 outclasses everything else with its price and performance.

[@neurocirurgiaobh]

The reverb is clearly better, but the visual resolution is not the only essential feature for a good VR experience, for me the real “snag” of the new HP Reverb are the very old controls, with 6 years on the back and associated with a platform which is not much loved and much less promising (WMR). Remember; VR time is not like in the real world, 6 years seems like 15 years for the guys from noVR! But maybe it's just an impression of distance, what do you think?

[@a.k.619]

cool.very interesting.very sharp in Elite.

[@donutlie315]

Still impressed by my quest 2 :)

[@randerson752]

Now if we could get VR headset with a FOV of 130 degrees, 2560x 2560 per eye at 120hz I'd be golden.. but alas I just have to settle for the G2.

[@dogadarko3783]

U read my mind