Microsoft Screenshots EVERYTHING Using Copilot

[@annoorange123]

Nobody's talking about the workplace.. there will be companies enforcing this, gathering that data and asking copilot to rank employees to determine whos fired. Mark my words

[@FelipeKana1]

Damm. I haven't considered that. I was for now thinking it the other way around, that companies would fear having their meetings and sensitive info recorded, thus they would block this gimmick I was wrong, they'll love it.

[@igordasunddas3377]

Absolutely incoming. For 100% sure. I won't turn it on. Though I am not using Windows already. Also where I work, I can pick my hardware. I'll pick a laptop, that's Linux enabled.

[@mc6505]

Most legal depts will not want this at all!

[@bellissimo4520]

@@mc6505 Not for themselves... but for the rest of the company.

[@d.ritzer]

Going from "Your MS-Teams shows you are inactive" to "I can see you have not moved your mouse in 60 seconds!"

[@winj3r]

This is a level of spyware beyond my wildest nightmares.

[@SergioBocanegra]

1984

[@winj3r]

@@SergioBocanegra Someone tell Microsoft that 1984 was a warning, not a manual.

[@JoshuaCasey]

@@winj3r We've been trying to tell politicians that 1984 was not an instruction manual. They don't seem to care. What makes you think Microsoft would care? :P

[@pteranodon6850]

The question is whether the missing hidden background search and risk-reporting for law-enforcement will come in the flavor of "protect the children" or "fight the baddies"

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

It does not leave the PC so what are you speaking about?

[@BenitoF2009]

Installing a keylogger in 2010. You're going to jail for it. Installing a keylogger in 2024: It's the biggest feature we got this year in Windows 11. What is wrong with society?

[@thecandyman9308]

The ruling class hasn't been taken to task in many generations. It's so far gone now that even 20 years ago the government lied the nation into war, then admitted it was based on lies, and the guy whose agency supplied the lies was given a medal. No uprisings, nobody went to jail. Corporations enriched themselves on the war. I fear its too late now and we're going into some neomedieval era, but with the potential that it goes on for longer than just a few hundred years this time.

[@haroldcruz8550]

It's called who has the gold makes the rule.

[@DarkAxi0m]

And a keylogger that you will choose to pay for....

[@mrkitty777]

​@@haroldcruz8550 in God we trust became In Gold We Trust 😮

[@MrPelzi91]

Money

[@TRULYMORTAL]

Ultimately, Microsoft was correct after all when they said before. "Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows." LOL

[@MoreThanMods]

This dude should have more likes

[@nietzschescodes]

When they forced me to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, that was the end for me.

[@um8078]

Honestly yeah, win7 -> win10 was a change of aesthetic and win10 -> win11 is just throwing away any principal left in them

[@RosalinaSama]

​@@um8078windows 10 constantly reinstalled candy crush, edge and onedrive gargage through forced updates, it definently wasnt as acceptable as windows 7

[@cesaravegah3787]

This thing is already breaking EU laws

[@PhilipMarcYT]

Oh no as if M$ cares.

[@---ct5tm]

@@PhilipMarcYT Of course they will, if they need to pay fines in the billions. Afaik these screenshot are saved locally, so I do not know if it would break any laws.

[@ogx-rz4jr]

Every time I see someone crying about MS "spying" they're an iPhone or Android user who have no problems with Apple and Google recording every word they say, face scanning every photo they take, and scanning every document on their phone to upload to iCloud and GoogleDrive. Hypocritical idits pretending to care about privacy, when in reality they're just fanboys hating on their chosen enemy corporation while taking it up the *** from their favored corporation. 1984 already happened 10 years ago on iOS and android. Out of every "person" I've talked to that's flipping out about this ALL of them have been iOS and Android users, zero exceptions. Clown world. Apple and Google haven't been completely banned from the EU, so this sadly wont either.

[@ogx-rz4jr]

If it did, Apple and Google would already be completely banned in EU.

[@Elkington7]

I wonder how they're planning on selling this to EU, or if they're just planning on taking the L going forward.

[@alec1575]

Wow, didn't expect Microsoft to make a Linux ad

[@FelipeKana1]

😂😂😂😂

[@V1CT1MIZED]

Well it's not like Linux can get new users any other way lol

[@alec1575]

@@V1CT1MIZED Kinda true, but it has been seeing some growth. Hope more people move over.

[@V1CT1MIZED]

@alec1575 The growth is the Steam Deck. None of the desktop distros have grown on Steam. They've regressed as Pop!_OS and Ubuntu Core were deducted from the "other" section. On Statcounter, Linux peaked at around 4.1% but now it's at 3.77%. People try Linux and realize it's not what they were expecting and go back to Windows. Unfortunately, the minority of Linux users are just extremely loud, and the data shows this.

[@KiRiTO72987]

​@@alec1575 I definitely think a big driver for that is steams efforts with proton

[@Zundfolge]

Setting aside the privacy and security implications (which are tremendous) this still seems to me like a ridiculous waste of system resources.

[@GrigRP]

Probably why Windows 12 will require 16GB ram

[@DrOtto-sx7cp]

Yep ... that's Windows ! 😆

[@edalder2000]

The implementation of this half-baked idea sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

[@Meche697]

No! Just NO!

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

​@Meche697 you can disable it if you do not want. I find it great.

[@jess_o]

Words cannot express how much I hate this

[@gdm_music]

😂

[@yusfifarkhan6714]

have you try libre office writer?

[@jess_o]

@@yusfifarkhan6714 I'd prefer Kate haha

[@greggmacdonald9644]

I concur. Microsoft keeps making things worse and worse.

[@RuslanIvanyuk-ub8fj]

...but screenshots can. ©

[@antixcyclone]

it's gonna have to recall me burning Linux Mint onto a flash drive, and it better remember that.

[@musicalneptunian]

Linux: say my name!

[@MrProg-ey3tl]

From one lifetime Windows user to another, please give Kubuntu a try! It has a much better and more familiar desktop environment than Linux Mint imo

[@gmattano]

Imagine going to someone's PC with Recall and searching "financial documents", and having a bunch of important files and spreadsheets pop up like its some Hollywood hacker movie scene. 😅

[@musicalneptunian]

Tom Cruise...

[@justbkaz1]

“You have the right to remain silent, anything you say or Copilot has screen-shot can and will be used against you in a court of law.”

[@Bogyway]

Speaking of creating memory impleantation. What you can do when you own the data this would be some good material to base a SiFi crime story on it. Tech giant that puts independend developers into prison to remove threads and things..

[@dontyouknowalready2168]

​@@BogywayOr.. for not to follow their policies even if you got nothing to do with their crap. Quad 9

[@jackiew6598]

And it absolutely will be used in court.

[@robertsay4374]

I loved Microsoft’s assertion that “its OK because its all stored locally”. Windows being known for amazing local security of course. I give it 2 months at most before the first screenshot blackmail attacks start. Nightmare fuel.

[@Raizan-IO]

On the other hand, like someone couldn't have recorded your pc (or you physically) if you were going to be targeted by this. I don't support this, but so much narrowmindess from people saying the same bs.

[@exclamation.]

I give it one month.

[@AndersJackson]

@@Raizan-IO I have not used MS Windows on my computers on work nor home at least for 15-20 years now. Good luck for Copilot to make this screen shots on my machine.

[@bjarne431]

One thing is storing it locally, another thing is what they send to their servers ABOUT those screenshots lol. It means jack shit for your privacy that the screenshots themselves are only stored locally.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

​@@Raizan-IOrecording screenshots over a long period of time and just grabbing already stored data from your PC are very different things. The second one is much easier to implement.

[@KyalJames]

>time: 12:41 *debian org website screenshot* >time: 12:42 *rufus website screenshot* >time: 12:43 *format usb confirmation screenshot* >time: 12:44 *reset computer prompt* >time: 12:44:01 *telemetry ends*

[@ChrisWijtmans]

ventoy to usb stick. Drop iso of any distro into the ventoy parition. Boot into any distro you want. Its that easy.

[@patricknelson]

Must be on gigabit; downloaded that stuff at light speed! 😅

[@ImMeURU-80]

@@patricknelson Debian 12 is 621MB vs Windows 11 23H2 @ 6.7GB

[@Tonaszkraj]

​@@ChrisWijtmans I have been using Ventoy for a long time and it is the best way for me to install systems, unfortunately sometimes there is a problem with some distro (updating Vetoy usually helps, but not every time)

[@Tonaszkraj]

They knew it would be a scandal if they hid it, so they made it a "feature", a very logical move.

[@anon1div0]

Constant writes to an SSD will reduce its lifespan. Especially problematic if the SSD is soldered onto the motherboard and not replaceable.

[@PotatoSoup58]

Yep. My pc runs exclusively on ssds. This is concerning.

[@nabflyer]

"Awe Shucks! We accidentally shortened the life cycle of the product! I guess those poor idiots will just have to buy more now!"

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

I highly doubt that the added load of periodic screenshots is a sufficient added load for a modern SSD. A jpeg screenshot of my desktop is about 600kb, if it takes screenshots every minute it's just 869mb, that's 317gb per year. Not really significant. And I assumed 90% quality setting on my jpeg, it can be compressed much more without significant loss of quality The whole idea is criminal though.

[@brianjrichman]

Now retired IT pro of over 40 years here and I'm already making sure everything I need can be done on Linux in preparation for a switch. This is a nail in the Micro$oft coffin for me.

[@donaldallen2459]

Only 30 years here ... but I started purging Microsoft devices from my house 2 years before I retired. I have one Windows PC that I use to play with the Unreal Engine ... I think it's gotta go to Linux.

[@MrEnsiferum77]

@@donaldallen2459 of course gaming... but IT people should realise that piracy is good, and russian tools are still here, i've justed removed every microsoft crap, and I don't care about crap like switching to linux, cuz WSL2 have everything I need, plus gaming, plus mods for pirated games.

[@yurikalashnikov2460]

I started phasing out all Microsoft products a few years ago. Libra Office opens all Microsoft Office documents for editing and saves them it whatever format you want.

[@Technopath47]

You know what? Screw it. It's the year of the Linux Desktop! Microsoft can go *straight* to Dell!

[@lunaticwastaken]

No, it's not. And you know it. Every video, the same people keep saying "Oh well, now i'm gonna switch to linux!", just so a few videos later, they can say it again.

[@VioFax]

Companies will find a way to follow us and all new ways of exploiting and using the fact that its all open source against us. Just like Android did.

[@HernasRoom]

​@@lunaticwastaken To be fair, Windows used to be annoying (telemetry and all that). An annoyance can easily be tolerated out of laziness. This, however, is straight-up dangerous...

[@John_Doe_6996]

@@lunaticwastakenbeen using Linux for probably around 7 or 8 years or so now, I dual boot into windows to play games, or occasionally KZbin if im already booted into windows. But that’s about it. Linux is better in many ways. Just gotta jump through some hoops to get everything the way you want.

[@AlexanderAddams]

@@lunaticwastaken reading this in KDE Neon.... year 4

[@johndoe1667]

Can you imagine the situation on corporate computers? This is every toxic manager's wet dream.

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

​@@GladeSwopeAnd they will find out that, yes - Manager Dave was really just a humat automaton lacking a soul, whi was only living to torture others in the workspace.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

It's not. Toxic managers have software like this, it's on the market. MS software is not on prem, no company would want such info leaking

[@ArmageddonAfterparty]

That's one of the main ways how they will force it down our throats, via the cubicle, where you do not have a choice whether to use it or not, so you'll get accustomed to it.

[@teacfan1080]

My computer will never have 11 on it. I'll go straight from my debloated Windows 10 to Linux

[@egebabus3423]

So my windows 10 is safe from this nightmare?

[@MrProg-ey3tl]

@@egebabus3423 Yes thankfully. Although I would still recommend switching to Linux since W10 support is ending next year.

[@egebabus3423]

@@MrProg-ey3tl what?? That's nuts... my hardware is not good enough for w11 I can't believe they are forcing me to linux with my gtx1650, it's not that bad of a card

[@marcusmeaney]

@@egebabus3423 ? i dont get it. im using linux with a rtx3080

[@DrewHowdenTech]

I think that's a wise decision.

[@wjjohns04able]

Can’t understand how any big business in the world would not see this as a security nightmare. Even if it’s not here today, we all know it’s coming.

[@DrewHowdenTech]

Well, it's Microsoft. What do you expect?

[@acharris]

The FBI, CIA and NSA must be absolutely salivating over this.

[@crisalcantara7671]

all these companies are funded and owned by the same people .

[@doctorspook4414]

@@crisalcantara7671 Goole was initially funded by DARPA and NASA, so we know who owns them. :)

[@ismaelvc3728]

You really don't think they have a backdoor already and in the hardware!

[@Apfelsaftiger]

@@ismaelvc3728 on intel cpu its called Intel Mangement Engine (Intel ME), an own operating system inside the chip, that sort of runs before anything else and can send packages through the network adapter amd has psp, which as of now is not known to have internet access but is also closed source and compareable to what intel does arm cpu's have TrustZone even when 2 of these have not internet access they have memory access while being proprietary

[@eddys.3524]

Not to mention the ruSSian hacker-collectives..

[@JessicaFEREM]

This is completely illegal in a school or hospital setting. in fact it's also illegal for any 13 year old child to use a computer like this, because they cannot consent to Microsoft taking their data.

[@jimmyneutron129]

Really? If it stays local not sure about that.

[@More_Row]

Even when you don’t consent they still take it

[@nayibmc5437]

​@@jimmyneutron129 How do we know it's only local? The OS is not open-source, so... do we trust the company that could benefit from having that data?

[@JacksonNick-j6i]

Some animals are more equal than others.

[@dansanger5340]

It is stored locally, so of course there are no legal issues. And, it's very similar to tools parents already use to keep tabs on their 13 year olds, except way more capable.

[@mk72v2oq]

User: * watching porn * Copilot: oh you dirty little bastard!

[@slots1407]

Copilot: enables camera to watch user watching porn..

[@jenniferjones2863]

@@slots1407 Yuck

[@John_Doe_6996]

@@slots1407give em the “money shot”

[@darrenvail8726]

Copilot is like a sex coach.

[@avisprimey]

@@slots1407 Copilot: (starts taking pictures)

[@pauldavison5382]

Considering Microsoft worked with the NSA on PRISM, I cannot be convinced that RECALL data wouldn't be part of this. We can be worried about hackers accessing RECALL data - what if Microsoft voluntarily hands the government your RECALL data? "I'm sorry, sir. Your browsing history reveals you're visiting sites we don't agree with. Please come with us."

[@cobeeble]

I understand your point but allegedly the data will be stored encrypted which is why bitlocker is going to be on by default. And yea I know microsoft.

[@Charles.Foster.Offdensen]

i am way more concerned about this than anything

[@igordasunddas3377]

Also remember: such tech will become mandatory and will have to be sent to law enforcement. I am 100% sure.

[@Dave-PL]

So I will turn off the Internet, bring back my old laptop and make own software and send to friends on pendrive or floppy disks like in old times 😆😆

[@lingux_yt]

@@Dave-PL I'm glad I still have some 32gb flash drives here

[@jasengroves5981]

“We promise we did not include a back door and we haven’t already handed the keys to the NSA”

[@kesamek8537]

It's more like NSA provides the keys to Microsoft. But yes totally agree.

[@ChrisWijtmans]

its like having a door but no walls.

[@DennisHolmberg-sl1hz]

You mean these keys right over here?

[@DennisHolmberg-sl1hz]

​@Little-ThreatWell, it is called windows, either you can look in or it is open so no surprise.

[@krzysztof7374]

​@Little-Threat the NSA completely needs photos of that to ensure your safety 😉

[@TuxikCE]

I can't thank Microsoft enough for adding such features. It is what made me switch to GNU/Linux and I don't regret it one bit.

[@dansanger5340]

You switched within the past 24 hours?

[@TuxikCE]

@@dansanger5340 I already switched way before.

[@guidolamacchina6363]

​@@dansanger5340I switched in 2006.

[@christopheriman4921]

@@dansanger5340 If I hadn't already switched by the point in time I am at now, hearing about windows implementing a feature that screenshots everything you do would convince me to leave the OS even for an inferior UX, which I actually think I have a better UX than I had with windows now, that being said it would also make me want to stay on an open source OS generally since that has less of a chance that even if a similar feature were implemented would be hard to keep people from either taking it out or from the feature being able to send data back to somewhere I don't consent to.

[@dansanger5340]

@@christopheriman4921 Firefox keeps a history of all the websites you visit.

[@Syping]

Just because its processed locally doesn't mean Microsoft's Telemetry wont pick up the results

[@TheForce_Productions]

In fact, Windows telemetry works exactly the same if your're on a local account.

[@chadwolf3840]

100%.

[@tomo9126]

The entire board of Microsoft should be arrested.

[@theguyfromsaturn]

Why would they? This is a wet dream for police forces and intelligence agencies. It makes their life so much easier.

[@cjay2]

'arrested'? Gallows. No 'trial' needed.

[@anti_globalista]

When I tried gaming on Linux I was so pleasantly surprised - games run smoother, use less resources and GPU temps are lower. I'm on Zorin now and never looked back.

[@breathforvoid]

Zorin is what I started with , now I switched to arch (btw)

[@andreasplosky8516]

I would not trust Microsoft if my life depended on it. Microsoft has lost touch with their consumers. You see it in everything they do.

[@no_name4796]

Yeah, honestly i am glad i switched to linux some years ago, and i never once had thoughts of going back

[@DarkFox2232]

Their customer has always been NSA.

[@rflair]

You're not the consumer, you are the product. Remember it stores the info on your PC, but the only way I can see it work is for it to access a larger language model, ChatGPT or whatever MS decides to use.

[@MartinMaat]

It started as a business selling software that is useful to users, to users. It has morphed into a business that sells information about users to third parties. Like FB and Google have done from the start. The one rule about Microsoft is they are late to the party and then do it "better" than the competition. So think everything that's worrying about those other two but more dystopian.

[@hendrx]

@@rflair "You're not the consumer, you are the product" that only works when you're not paying for the product

[@nguyentrananhnguyen7900]

this is definitely for those companies that like to micro-manage theirs employees, no way to escape now

[@pinstripecool34]

You will have nothing and be happy 😀

[@Bertminator]

Well to escape would perhaps mean going to Linux. I'm in that boat right now. Lots to like about Linux, but that learning curve...whoa! This latest MICROSOFT INTRUSION, I think, is the BIG push most of us on the Linux fence need to finally make the jump. I'm seriously considering it.

[@scottkrebs586]

That was my first thought, the corporate IT overlords will be all over this. If Apple doesn't compete with that, and quick, I can see Apple-based corporate environments switching back to M$ hardware for at least certain positions in order to exploit this.

[@nguyentrananhnguyen7900]

@@Bertminator well, most of the time, you don't get to choose which OS you use for your workstation, your company just buy the enterprise package along with features like this to manage your work your feelings doesn't matter and your choice doesn't mean anything to them

[@daishi5571]

I shrug! You could do most of this 25 years ago, it's really just been packaged and made easier.

[@LinuxAndCoffee]

This is going to be a goldmine for hackers. Everything was wrapped in a nice bow. It's laughable that they're doing this.

[@miketan373]

my biggest concern

[@TheNefastor]

Got two words for you : *online banking.* How many people will want MS looking over their bank accounts ?

[@clray123]

Many people already allow crappy third-party tools access their bank accouts to get some nice charts and what not. And surprisingly banks turn a blind eye on it even though it is breach of contract.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Most people, unfortunately, are dumb enough to not care

[@TheNefastor]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul on second thought, I think you're right, unfortunately.

[@SchlubTheSecond]

So what's to stop: 1. This from screenshotting highly sensitive information like my bank account, credit cards, passwords, social security, health info, etc which can then easily be breached and stolen? 2. This being used to harvest massive amounts of data on top of the already massive amounts of data Microsoft already harvests about me in order to be sold to the highest bidder? I already have gotten ads for funeral services and coffins after merely mentioning a death in the family in front of my phone, and this is even more invasive than accidentally forgetting to put my phone in a different room while talking to someone about a sensitive topic like illness or death.

[@TexasTimelapse]

Windows 8 came out, and I threatened to switch to Linux...I didn't. Windows 10 came out, I threatened to switch to Linux...I didn't. This bullshit is coming and I promise I'm switching to Linux this time.

[@boestube5805]

😂😂😂

[@nou712]

You better start now so you actually have a grasp of the system, get an extra SSD or hard disk and dualboot.

[@joes.3083]

yah bro, do what this guy above me said. Buy a nice SSD, install a newbie friendly distro on it and give it a try. It's gonna be a bumpy road ahead with the AI bullshit. I also bought a 2tb SSD just for linux last week. Thank god I did, because of this horseshit.

[@InvasionAnimation]

Update us if you do.

[@TexasTimelapse]

@@InvasionAnimation 👍

[@erikhicks07]

This is straight-up surveillance of what you do. Plain and simple. I'm sure employers will love it, and so will Microsoft's dataminers.

[@bluetooth2677]

This is what I'm afraid is going to happen. Most companies use windows not Linux or apply.

[@aaryan45]

Remove Copilot option needed in WinUtil

[@Kylian381]

Shouldn't be too difficult to add. you can disable it with GPOs already no trickery. It is why i got a domain controller running at home so it is easy to centrally disable all this crap.

[@Notgoodcodesatall]

couldn't agree more

[@incandescentwithrage]

​@@Kylian381actually removing it (rather than disabling) is a one line Powershell script. Could be set as a logon script

[@uniqueprogressive9908]

Already exists, Its called Linutil

[@RetroMMA]

@@incandescentwithrage And that is...?

[@henryd4331]

Hopefully the EU will forbid the feature for the sake of privacy, security and failing to comply with GDPR (European viewer here).

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

GDPR is joke, when it comes to big corporations.

[@phoenixrising4995]

They will lobby France like they always do. Usually they are the one to cry a foul.

[@Night-nl8vo]

The EU at top level is in on this they are on the Bill Gates team that high up. Spy and control is their mottos

[@LuisDanielSotoMaldonado]

An optional feature that can be turned off? Just don’t use if you don’t like it

[@Night-nl8vo]

@@LuisDanielSotoMaldonado Once this feature is installed you can never trust that microsoft might remote activate it on purpose or software bug

[@optamis1989]

I kinda wanna make a few windows work stations with 24 hour loops of cursed Teletubbies just slowly getting more distorted and let Microsoft enjoy

[@mabell01]

They'll figure out a way to spy on you with that too. They'll work with you. 😂

[@optamis1989]

@@mabell01 I intend on it, that's what the 24 hour slapping mayo video is for labeled how to make a bomb 101

[@disorganizedorg]

Law enforcement must be ecstatic.

[@null_0012]

They will be ecstatic when Windows introduces login bypasses for LEO. Think, like post-raid and they have all the suspects locked devices all bagged up in the precinct. Probably, and hopefully that will never happen lol. Until then, they will have to catch their suspects with their computers/devices unlocked. If it's not, then they have to jump through all sorts of legal hoops to tap in. in a post 9/11 world, can we really do much when it's the government agencies (domestic and foreign) that can potentially overstep with this? I'd be more concerned with them, rather than some LEOs, tbqh.

[@AlexanderAddams]

THIS

[@hendrx]

facts

[@WilliamBrwn]

think of the possibilities if the model hallucinates additional proof for the police! :)

[@Aechelian]

​@@WilliamBrwnWhaaat? Ais are famously consistent and purely accurate. You might even say, "It just works".

[@cooky842]

"Do you trust microsoft? " Laugh in linux.

[@PatricioGonzalezCabrera]

I use arch btw

[@estiennetaylor1260]

I trust Microsoft more than some linux losers that claims they're in a better enviroment.

[@albertosanchez1975]

@@estiennetaylor1260 I really hope that was sarcasm...

[@TheSuperNova994]

​@@estiennetaylor1260 What?

[@TheSuperNova994]

I use arch btw /s

[@arcticpilotshow4440]

How is asking for this? In the 40+ years I've been using a computer, I can't think of a single instance where this has come in handy.

[@printf255]

The NSA?

[@hendrx]

law enforcement will be very happy

[@malcaniscsm5184]

The advertising industry? All the Big Data consumers (Insurance and Advertising spring to mind immediately)

[@DudeSoWin]

Smartphone Groomers who speak German. Look up the Zeitgeist project.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Its the gov spying on us

[@kofid3la]

it starts on "the edge" then terms and conditions are updated to make it system wide, then terms and conditions are updated to make you autoamtically sync with microsoft with option to opt out hidden behind lots or menus.

[@bobmcbob4399]

It's "the thin edge of the wedge"

[@musicalneptunian]

The guitarist from U2 denies having anything to do with this.

[@AlexKowalski-ci6im]

Recall = SPYWARE !!!! Even tons of marketing gibberish cannot make this heap of shit golden 💩.

[@JohnCastleSmokeless]

"Windows is spyware" used to be hyperbole. _Used to be._

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

Not even hyperbole. They just lied to our faces in contravention to the evidence in network traffic.

[@ChrisWijtmans]

it really wasnt hyperbole.

[@wayando]

Windows started down the spyware route with Windows 8 ... Win7 appeared innocent enough.

[@ChrisWijtmans]

@@wayando windows xp had alexa spyware, what are you talking about?

[@wayando]

@@ChrisWijtmans ... And it was known and relatively easy to disable. The new a.i functions are going to be basically impossible to get rid of.

[@Vindisify]

The scary thing about this isn't Microsoft doing it, it's that the majority of the user base will be completely unaware of it or ignore it. Microsoft couldn't care less about the 1% who will strip this out or switch to Linux/Mac.

[@warlock_r]

People saying Apple is better clearly haven't seen the recent news of deleted photos of "undeleting" and suddenly reappearing.

[@thesullivanstreetproject]

That’s a function of how file deletion works. Files aren’t actually deleted. They’re just no longer indexed, and that space is still occupied by that file until another file overwrites it. So if you haven’t overwritten those files, apparently the new OS will re-index them and make them come back. Having said that, I’m 100% sick of Apple’s anti-competitive shenanigans and their malicious compliance. And I’m sure they’re lying about something…that’s par for the course will all large corporations today. I’ll never use Windows again if I can help it, but I can’t 100% leave Mac OS either because Logic is just too good, and music production on Linux is positively terrible.

[@More_Row]

Doesn’t even matter what’s “better “ or not.

[@pierrebroccoli.9396]

@@thesullivanstreetproject It's a mixed bag Linux and Music but there are some great cross platform DAW's that run well on it like Reaper

[@pdrouk]

@@thesullivanstreetproject do you really believe that the photo was simply unindexed locally, even after a phone reset, and having been deleted ages ago? surely it wasn't stored somewhere at Apple servers purposefully and just accidentally leaked

[@warlock_r]

@@thesullivanstreetproject They are definitely lying about something. I saw some reports that some of them were coming back from iCloud. You'd think that they'd have a more thorough overwriting process for that.

[@HickoryDickory86]

Without a doubt in my mind, this was developed in partnership with and/or with funding from three-letter agencies.

[@wesatwerk2849]

What worries me is the Microsoft relationship with LINUX. How are they eventually going to use the money they've spread around in LINUX to introduce spyware here too?

[@FlyRetroGamer]

Alright, I seriously wasn't expecting Windows 11 to become SPYWARE. Like I know Windows 10 also collects data, but not like SCREENSHOTS OF YOUR SCREEN. I seriously can't wait to see Windows collapse.

[@guidolamacchina6363]

Are you serious? It has been crystal clear for the last 15 years.

[@thepuzzlemaster64]

After Windows 10 dies in October 2025, I can see 2026 as the "true" Year of the Linux Desktop.

[@lussor1]

Nobody is switching until games and program are 100% compatible​@@thepuzzlemaster64

[@Airwolf2030]

I never did liked windows 11, I'm glad I'm using windows 10 with a local account, also I removed all of the ads/spyware/bloatware too

[@ChrisWijtmans]

windows 10 has a keylogger. And unless you have enterprise edition or a network firewall there is no way to remove the spyware.

[@andrei5680]

It seems insane to me that Microsoft managed to turn probably the most important change in the laptop world in a decade from an advantage into a gun that they shot themselves in the foot with.

[@etaxalo]

a gun? if this goes live it will be a cannon

[@zulumika1]

The next version of this will, at regular intervals, start your cam and mic, and will record everything happening in the room.

[@AngstG]

Of COURSE it will, they just cannot resist the temptation....

[@kesamek8537]

Like it doesn't already. That's funny.

[@ETM2024]

They were already heading that way with Kinect on Xbox. Using it to determine how many people were in a room for a pay per view event. If they were willing to do that, there's no way they can be trusted with a webcam and AI onboard.

[@patricknelson]

After that, anonymized Copilot telemetry for an ad-supported tier unless you pay for it to not do that. 😉

[@abhi.dx2345]

They can't start my webcam. My webcam has a built in cover 😈

[@PostalHeathen]

The East German Stasi is looking up out of the dustbin of history and saying "That's a bit invasive, don't you think?”

[@lutencoconstantin7820]

It is way worse than Stasi Stasi were only in East Germany This shit will be on every win 11 pc

[@iainparkes2581]

The World Economic Forum is always telling us that we won't have privacy in the future..... Things like this make a lot more of their "predictions" a lot more scary.....

[@Kwijibob]

Massive HIPPA violations incoming...

[@Qrjak666]

HIPPA what? They don't exist for giants like Microsoft, we can bet a few milion worth paycheck that this case will go "under their radar"

[@ethylg7572]

Right?!

[@slateslavens]

oh, no kidding. And HIPAA violation fines aren't cheap...

[@phoenixrising4995]

or MS digging up dirty pics on Federal employee PCs. 🤣

[@yerachmielb1]

It's embarrassing and disgusting that this stuff is even legal

[@steaksoldier]

Welp. Might be about time to completely switch over to linux now.

[@Drazil100]

Palpatine: Do it!

[@spartaninvirginia]

Do it.

[@PatricioGonzalezCabrera]

I only use windows for games nowadays go agead!

[@ChrisWijtmans]

@@PatricioGonzalezCabrera I will just install SteamOS to my game drive.

[@WilliamBrwn]

Do it! Do it ... Come on, do it!1!

[@jotapi4010]

This is going to be the default setting on every single workplace related Windows machine - and for security purposes, everything is (also) stored somewhere in the realm of corporate IT.

[@Xialoh]

Pretty sure my workplace has been using a proprietary software that does something similar for years now..alarming when I discovered it, but I don't do anything crazy on my work laptop at least.

[@drewnewby]

Leave it to TheVerge to copy paste whatever Microsoft sent over and call it an article. More TheVerge memes inbound. As far as Recall is concerned, it's what is referred to as a solution in search of a problem. They built out a new data collection system, then sent it over to marketing to invent a consumer spin on it.

[@DioTheGreatOne]

Introducing Windows 13: Now it can call your phone 39 times a day, smell your underwear and hide under your bed while you sleep.

[@dudeh9702]

Windows users are the frog being slowly boiled. MS keeps improving and adding more creepy surveillance and telemetry. Increased with Windows 10 (and backported many of those features to Windows 7 and 8.1) and has constantly added more and more. I almost see this as an onerous adjunct to client-side scanning to subvert end-to-end encryption; i.e. let's just record all conversations and web browsing prior to encryption and store locally "just in case." This will absolutely be a juicy target for malware, exploits, hackers, and abusive nation-states!

[@phoenixrising4995]

Windows 1984 should be the next version of Windows. 😂😂

[@mpxz999]

Just wait until the Recall Cloud service is announced! Where it can offer to remember everything we do on ALL of our devices, to, ya know, be convenient! 😅 ... I'd call that service "TOTAL RECALL".

[@gaborfotos6121]

hgahaha

[@DeKyDa]

Well this wont happen

[@KUOLEMA_]

I'm an avid gamer, thus I bought a pretty beefy gaming PC.I've never been a fan of Spydows & few days after reading about this 'Recall feature' I've created partitions for Linux and Windows dual-booting.The ONLY thing that kept me 'tied down' to MS is their wide range support of pretty much any game. Now Mr. Gates Keeper can stare at thousands of pics of me playing thousands of hrs of video-games.For EVERYTHING else I'll be using Linux.This will be a 'recall' alright - of Windows OS.

[@elduderino7767]

with steam in it's current state gaming isn't even a reason to stick with windows anymore, it just works try Zorin OS, best linux distro for windows refugees imho

[@TheGospelGuitarist]

Microsft just took a snap of my screen? Oh wait I'm on Linux. Thanks for confirming my new OS.

[@ChristianWagner888]

No worries! It screenshots and logs passwords and bank account pin numbers, with AI helping you to find them, if you forget them. What could possibly go wrong?

[@kiranchauhan416]

Well much worse you could imagine, Like if your friend or any other person gets physical access to your computet he could literally just search all of your credentials, passwords Or like if your Pc ever gets compromised due to a zero day or any other reason, besides stealing your data the hacker could also blackmail you if you watch something sussy in your Pc

[@kiranchauhan416]

And microsoft "Telemerty" always works even locally

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

​@@kiranchauhan416 you missed the implied /s tag

[@ChristianWagner888]

@@kiranchauhan416 exactly!

[@ScottGrammer]

Microsoft: "At Microsoft, we value, protect, and defend privacy. We believe in transparency, so that people and organizations can control their data and have meaningful choices in how it is used. We empower and defend the privacy choices of every person who uses our products and services." Also Microsoft: "We're going to record every single thing you do on your computer, make it searchable, and then not secure it."

[@haderlumpi]

Also Microsoft: "We bow to governments and gladly cooperate with you"

[@alanwood9804]

The UK governments ICO (Information commissioner’s office) is already investigating this as they have serious privacy and security concerns…. they have called it a "Privacy Nightmare" If the UK government are concerned no doubt the EU will also be looking into this, Microsoft has already had several run-ins with the EU and is currently in there spotlight again, the EU’s DSA has asked for information regarding its AI and so far, they haven’t responded, if they don’t respond before the 27th May they could be fined upto 6% of global annual revenue. Due to EU’s DMA compliance rules EU windows users can now uninstall Edge, OneDrive, disable feeds and remove Bing from windows search…. These options should all be available to everyone, however the EU has had to force (legislate) Microsoft to make the changes. I can see many lawsuits ahead!! Currently Copilot isn’t available in the EU as it doesn’t conform with the EU’s data privacy laws.

[@clray123]

The only thing that the government is looking into is how to ensure they get access to all the data. All the privacy laws (e.g. GDPR) have explicit exemptions for government spying on you.

[@fienmsa]

Feeling like these big companies bringing back what Edward Snowden was talking about while ago. For example Google and Microsoft they’ll ready know you more than yourself what do you think other companies like meta etc?

[@DanielField2023]

It's isn't our PC anymore it's their PC they own You now LOL It's going to get worst as the time goes, MS not to be trusted. These Oligarch it's all about $$$$$$$$$$ and don't gave a dam about the users. You paid $200 on an O/S so they can get more of your DATA and your personal use. Can't imagine my bank account, and my social security taken by a screen shoot it's a dream for the hackers.

[@phrtao]

This might cause problems in countries and organisations that have document retention laws. Imagine a government worker using this system and working through hundreds of peoples documents and details. To be used in a professional context it will need to have a very clear and easy switch to turn it off. Even then there is a possibility that someone could leave it on by accident. They really have not thought this through ! It reminds me of the 'Longhorn' days (over 20 years ago) - they had a ridiculous demo video of a system automatically passing on a doctor's diagnosis, then authorising surgery, then informing an insurance company, then debiting someone's account - all without human intervention (needless to say none of it saw the light of day !)

[@christopherlee7334]

I wonder if they'll have this in all home and personal versions, and separately have non-ai versions marketed to government and corporations. I mean, the military uses Microsoft, and I *highly* doubt they're sending classified material to Microsoft via telemetry.

[@LorikQuinn]

Even if it's easily turned off, updates can turn it on just like that Windows Update that turns on BitLocker by itself. Stuff like this HAS to stop.

[@nunya8624]

Everyone needs to know how how crazy this is.

[@RafidW9]

I have been debating about switching to Linux, this will definitely make me do it

[@Alxasaurus]

Good luck and let me know how it goes!

[@ItzEvanVR]

I had a dream about this and I was using this while displaying my Meta Quest 3's passthrough and it was a live call and I was able to ask it about stuff in front of me IRL. It was pretty neat but privacy's basically down the drain with this

[@um8078]

Notice how when Titus shit on some OS someone gets angry but when it comes to Windows 11 no one even cares to complain anymore, it's hot garbage and everyone knows

[@QuikRay]

Chris, I may not have been able to predict the exact way Microsoft would do it, but I'll tell you for sure, 10 years ago I would have told you they were up to no good and it was only going to get worse from there....and here we are. This is the single biggest reason I switched to Linux.

[@lifeshort2602]

Microsoft's most advanced spyware in existence

[@Mister-Tea]

Heaviest*

[@phoenixrising4995]

Microsoft's Bonzi Buddy, but not as friendly or fun.

[@Lukiel666]

Somebody is going to find a day one vulnerability and grab all banking info and crypto wallets.

[@-PVL93-]

Scammer heaven if the screenshots can somehow be accessed locally

[@Lukiel666]

@@GladeSwope You think bank CEOs know computers? All they care about is profit margin. And if all their employees know windows, no way are they going to put out money to train them on Linux. And put out the money to get custom Linux systems.

[@Machistmo]

I read about this and thought 'Yep. The Blind leading the Blind' How can all these meetings have taken place and NO ONE have stepped up and said 'UHM THIS IS CREEPY AF'? How did this get this far? They were hoping no one would care?

[@27565]

Windows has been dead for a while now I just switched to linux last year and I'm glad I did. If this doesn't put the final nail in their coffin it will when they start charging people monthly to run windows on their PC.

[@avail6797]

The solution to this problem is to use Linux as your main OS.

[@fevad1246]

How's the compatibility of the apps? Sadly, school and any organizations won't acknowledge Linux and just release their programs for windows only

[@maicon9]

​@@fevad1246choose open source alternative. If there isn't any then don't use it at all. Security/freedom comes with compromise

[@Ant69_OSU]

​@@fevad1246Wine and VMs exist.

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@fevad1246 I used OnlyOffice throughout College and even wrote a thesis in it and got 93% on it. They didn't care. Adobe stuff might hurt but there are alternatives like Davinci Resolve for video editing, Krita and Photopea for image editing/creation, REAPER for DAW work, OnlyOffice and Libreoffice for Office apps. Steam, Heroic Games Laucnher, Lutris for GOG, Epic and Windows installer games. OBS Studio for live streaming and there is a lot more. 90% of people are pretty much covered now. MS is just handing us 4-5% more marketshare that will STICK this time. Once, Adobe is on board we are pretty well set to grow.

[@RussellSubedi]

I wonder why Recall is excluding DRM-protected content if it's going to stay locally anyway 🤔

[@Zandanga]

good point ...

[@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755]

so people cant use it to record movies off of say, amazon, then have them semi-permanently without needing to pay or go on the site to watch it. "you can do that with other screen-capture software" yes but microsoft WILL get spanked by media giants, just like youtube did if people start using it to record copyrighted stuff and distribute it. not saying its not a massive red flag, it is. but this also has a double sided reason for it to be implemented.

[@artvram]

The number of people who seem to think this is a backup system is really bothering me.

[@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21]

Chris this isn't related to your video but I debloat windows from 59 > 55 processes and my ram usage from 1.7gb > 1.6gb Your debloating script is a good starting point for those who want debloat their pc

[@not_a_cool_handle]

This is it guys, the year desktop linux takes off

[@musicalneptunian]

Mint!

[@gdm_music]

Microsoft, god bless you, please keep giving us more reasons to switch to linux

[@rrraewr]

imagine hallucinated recall, your past rewritten by ai lmao

[@moetocafe]

imagine your past rewritten by ai on purpose, now that would be pure evil

[@Zandanga]

I recently installed software and was actually reading every sentence of the EULA. There were three objectionable paragraphs but the one that pushed me over the edge was the requirement to put up with the hallucinating AI. It actually stated in writing the words hallucinating AI. So, yeah ... that was a big no. Uninstalled immediately. This point about total recall combined with the hallucinating AI is a valid issue. Yeah. Was going to make some movie references but there is no need. We all know how this will end. Anyone else get the feeling they know exactly what they are doing ... ?

[@kesamek8537]

In law enforcement it's called 'parallel construction' and plenty of people are in jail via that method.

[@LupusYonderboy]

That would at least be entertaining lol.

[@bearistotle1628]

it will conveniently "recall" problematic stuff for people not liked by their government lmfao

[@elirane85]

This seems like such a security/privacy nightmare for what is essentially a gimmick. God help us all...

[@thesoulsender]

Windows 10 will be the last windows I use on my personal devices. I only stayed because of gaming, but steam proton is good enough where I think I'm just done with it all.

[@black_dragon274]

What you don't understand is that Windows 11 is already the end. With Windows 10 we managed to make it "somewhat" more privacy friendly but we all have to run on Linux. All of us. And we need to open up and get people together to make an open source program for Adobe-level video and photo editing. Doing that plus more compatibility in video games and drivers, Windows will DEFINITELY disappear!

[@Charles.Foster.Offdensen]

the only thing stopping me right now from putting linux on my laptop, is that I really want to use it for music production, and it's just not going to happen without the DAW's I need to use or the vst's.... not to mention getting MusicBee working, which is supposedly not going to really happen. I really hate Microsoft.... idk

[@AQDuck]

Wouldn't surprise me if Recall can only be "disabled" by disabling local screenshot storage and instead move it to their cloud and the option to view recall be hidden until the user "re-enables" it and suddenly all the history is still there.

[@nuvotion-live]

Upgrade to Microsoft OneDrive for more space! (You’ll only see that popup once a week don’t worry)

[@dannyboots]

I'm guessing Windows 12 will come with this automatically

[@bertblankenstein3738]

"I won't have to opt in, will I?"

[@dafyddthomas7299]

Very Likely and enforced / manadatory on now / future MS Surface tablets - gonna stay clear from many say these crappy tablets.

[@bokami3445]

This "Recall" feature explains why Microsoft is forcing BitLocker on by default

[@phoenixrising4995]

That to. People seem to forget that recent development.

[@leobrooks3883]

Last year I started looking into Linux, and thought ... no, too confusing, too much fiddling. Today I am looking at every single thing I can find on Linux distros and prepping to switch no matter how tricky, confusing, or fiddly (is that a word?) Linux Mint for starters. I am even willing to dump a couple of major CGI apps I use to escape Microsoft forever.

[@rabbitgames1971]

Secondly, the idea that "something saving screenshots and taking a lot of space is easy to track" worries me. One, they can offload the files from your system to their system with "The Cloud" taking over, and then there's the compression algorithm, and hidden file methods, that can help them cover that up.

[@Xaito]

They don't need the screenshots. An AI that can tell you that there's been a picture of a brown bag in a website you've visited can tell them anything they're interested in about your activity without them needing the screenshots. They just need to query your AI and your PC will do the heavy lifting for them - you provide the hardware and storage for their spyware.

[@TimeLapseRich]

Micro$oft is trying to make this the year of the Linux desktop.

[@Aeroxima]

It's not an easy task, but if anyone can do it, it's them.

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@Aeroxima Lets go MS we know you love Linux. 😂😂

[@krownedklown420klik9]

Sadly most people will still not trust Linux or find it too inferior 😮😮😮

[@Firing0]

they said "windows 10 will be the last windows" no more windows 11, 12... I'm sure copilot will work pretty much localy, at the begining. I'm also sure later it will be "helped by a sever"

[@phoenixrising4995]

The'll call it Assured Copilot. Ooops I mean Azure Copilot and it will tie into MS Sentinel with a fun analytics dashboard showing you how much MS is taking care of your "desktop security".

[@johannoas1]

OK there are two parts at this. 1. Taking screenshots of everything you do. 2. A general AI Tool that can tag images. The second one is a cool feature I'd love for my tons of photos. The first one is just a privacy nightmare that I can't see anybody really wants or needs.

[@patricknelson]

I could totally see people wanting it. But, it’s a _massive huge mega_ risk and needs red blinking lights, warnings, safe guards, etc. The risks super duper outweigh the benefits (at least right now, with how it looks) and even then… for those that could benefit from it, it seems far too risky.

[@benoit.gerin-lajoie]

You know ? I'm on Windows 10 and... couple of weeks ago, Copilot installed itself on my system WITHOUT me asking for it 😱 !!! How do I know ? I had to check something in my uninstaller program and... I saw the Copilot icon listed and it installed itself May 19-20th with ±10 other programs updates and... one of the program installed (that I NEVER used before) that I needed to install was... Skype ! Is there a connection here ?

[@MaxHarden]

Microsoft is Department of Defense contractor. Copilot can now do telemetry without a hit to your PC’s main cpu