When you can't keep the band together

For Paramore, every album has been a fight to keep the band alive.
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In their nearly 20-year career, Paramore have released six studio albums - evolving musically with each and every installment. But their journey has been far from easy. They’ve navigated numerous line-up changes, legal battles, personal struggles, inner band relationships and more - while continuing to outdo themselves after every obstacle.
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:40 The Backstory of The Band
2:48 The Jeremy Situations
4:41 Riot & Romantic Relationships
6:02 Hayley, Hayley, Hayley
7:12 Rumors of a Break Up
8:53 Growing Further Apart
9:51 The Farro Brothers’ Farewell
11:41 Starting From Scratch
13:00 All Paramore Know Is Falling
14:23 Rumors of a Return
15:20 A Fresh Chapter
17:13 The Band Goes On Hiatus
18:00 Back to Basics
19:21 The Persistent Paramore
#Middle8 #Paramore #VideoEssay #HayleyWilliams
When every album is a fight to keep the band alive
When you can't keep the band together
The Paramore Story

[@JustWowNick]

Considering this was a band started in high school, with some of the members being freshmen, it’s nothing short of a miracle that they’re still around.

[@casualnerdjason6678]

They remind me of No Doubt in that way. Gwen was in high school when she joined her brother’s band in the 80s.

[@issaphae9659]

big 2024 update: paramore have ended their 20-year contract with atlantic records and launched their new independent label, fine print records (presumably a nod to them finally “reading the fine print” after so many contractual disputes). their stint on taylor swift’s eras tour will probably aid to finance their independent endeavors.

[@Ancient_troll]

It's the girl with the top comment at the Misery Business music video!!

[@lovelyy6491]

Jeremy's such an ass, dude saw the band doing well, came back. left and came back again. then years later got greedy for stuff he didn't even had the rights too 💀 the friendship and the music meant nothing to him

[@labanhendricks7053]

Fr you could see the brother like...

[@bruh-gn5kc]

Unrelated but nice Post pfp

[@babayega1717]

It's kind of obvious Haley's insistence to let him back is what drove the others away, or at least was cause for animosity between them.

[@eldiablo3794]

I was just thinking the same thing.. The dude who quit and left them hanging high and dry how many times? All of a sudden wants to come back when they're blowing up, then leaves again, and demands to be financially compensated w royalties.. And wants to be paid a fee and compensated even though he has nothing to do with the band anymore? All the band members are so damn wishy washy leaving and coming back and leaving.

[@Whiteythereaper]

​@@babayega1717I don't blame her tbh, she was a devout Christian that believed in giving people second chances

[@BrianFalconi]

This Is Why is their 6th album but it’s the first Paramore album where there were no lineup changes. They have had a novela worthy amount of drama and it is so awesome and honestly a relief that the band is finally in a good stable place

[@lostindesperation]

Until Hayley ends her relationship

[@Oryyyt]

​@@lostindesperation I know she's really in love with Taylor cause of her songs in her side proj Petals for Armor and also in their song Liar. They have a really good thing going here.

[@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines]

This didn't age well.

[@ldrskiddo6842]

@@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines why? did they broke up with Taylor?

[@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines]

@ldrskiddo6842 Google Paramore. They wiped their social medias.

[@johnpaulcross424]

Crazy how the’ve been pushing pushing their boundaries album after album, and somehow it feels like they still have so much left to offer

[@Middle8]

Definitely an exciting time to be a Paramore fan 🤘

[@chrissantos5580]

If you like crappy pop music

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

I still wait for the stoner rock Paramore album

[@charlieerekson]

@@chrissantos5580has never listened to this is why by paramore

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@charlieerekson tHIS IS WHY is their worst album... it seems lazy and lyrics seem weak only strong songs that sound out are "Liar" and The News, Their best albums are All We Know is falling , Riot and Brand New Eyes

[@killercaos123]

I swear this band represents the scene kids of the 2000s. And there’s nothing emo/scene kids love more than drama. So this band filled with drama makes complete sense

[@JosiahRoe]

Haley excepted, they all sound dim af

[@turbochargedfilms]

Yep, drama created by overprivileged myopic white kids for overprivileged myopic white kids. It honestly makes me feel so much better about the recent transition of mainstream far-western music away from these styles into "computer music" (EDM, trap, soundscapes etc.)

[@jeseramirez9852]

For real

[@JosephBlack]

It sounds like drama by-design. Actual bands go through less but intenser stuff. And to incorporate the drama in the music...

[@thundabearz5092]

Lol this band IN NO WAY represents scene kids of the 2000s. You guys are braindead.

[@ShesUncontrolable]

Im just gonnna go ahead and thank Taylor for saving Paramore!!

[@spamdatgd6326]

I completely agree but have to add he also asked Zac to come back. This was crucial it was obvious Hayley didn’t think Paramore was “legit” without more members from the beginning. Taylor AND Zac together saved Paramore

[@rubycebreros2330]

Taylor who

[@kahardiyanramadhannainggol1723]

​@@rubycebreros2330Taylor York. The guitarist

[@goodnightmoon]

@@rubycebreros2330taylor swift

[@NaOHFlakes]

Not me thinking it was Taylor swift cause Hayley and t swift are good friends.

[@heysquirrelbait]

Paramore’s story would honestly make an incredible coming of age film.

[@Hawk7886]

Nah, shit was standard

[@ghostyboi9186]

getting a couple pre-teens and expecting them to live in stardom with eachother and GET ALONG and NOT constantly break up is probably up there in the list of "things that *will* go wrong"

[@philly_sports1558]

I will always think Brand New Eyes is Paramore’s greatest album while also acknowledging how rough the making of the album was for the band members. I doubt Hayley, Zac, and Taylor look back on that era fondly due to all the band in-fighting at the time. I just think the album’s songwriting and energy is off-the-charts amazing and I think the Fleetwood Mac “Rumours” energy coming off it makes it even more intriguing.

[@theplourde]

And they play so few songs from it in their set lists. I wish they’d play more especially Turn It Off

[@philly_sports1558]

@@theplourde I just looked on the Wikipedia page for the This is Why tour and they've played 7 of the 11 songs from BNE. Only ones they haven't played are Turn It Off, Looking Up, Feeling Sorry, and Where the Lines Overlap. That's actually pretty good for an album that's 14 years old now. Compare that to them only playing That's What You Get and Misery Business from Riot! (yes, no CrushCrushCrush for whatever reason not even once) and only Pressure and Here We Go Again from AWKIF, BNE is actually being represented pretty well.

[@antitheticaldreamgirl]

@@theplourde they played quite a lot of songs from it when i saw them earlier this year

[@islandrebelmakeup4653]

@@theplourdeit’s actually the third most represented album in their set after TIW and AL.

[@johnnyboy3948]

I see you in like every comment section. Why are you everywhere

[@daxmichael6855]

Paramore having sold a total of 7 Million Records is considerably lower than I thought. Artists like Lady Gaga, Linkin Park, and Gorillaz have sold more than that in a single album alone. They Definitely deserve more.

[@danielpatterson1576]

Well, it’s should be noted that album sales for all artists since roughly 2012 have taken a massive nosedive thanks to streaming, and Paramore really only started blowing up around their self titled album in 2013 thanks to the radio hits. Most of what they make from their music comes from their tours and streaming.

[@Singleballtheory]

@@danielpatterson1576 Agreed. Album sales as a metric are essentially non-existent now. Prime example would be Tool knocking Taylor Swift out of the #1 album sales slot back in 2019. I love Tool and was beyond happy to see them finally release a new CD 13 years after they released "10,000 Days". But in any other era there's just no way Tool takes the top album sales slot over anyone, let alone Swift. They may have a huge and loyal fanbase, but not THAT huge. Regarding album sales though, their fanbase just happens to be one that also craves the visual aspects of Tool as well, which means they crave physical media and the packaging it comes in.

[@Uncle_Ruckus_]

Paramore are overrated

[@carlosIC]

I don't even know how or where to buy an album lol. Buying cassettes from TaoBao counts lol?

[@Evan.280]

It really depends on the label. If your label is putting in time and money to promote them than you aren’t gonna sell much

[@pariswilder8328]

God, really highlights how awful music interviewers are. “You don’t need to quit your job to plan a wedding. What’s going on?!” So rude and awkward!

[@dianevierra781]

Agreed. I think they're told to push by their employers to get a good story, but it really is distasteful.

[@italothejunior]

It's better that the fluff interviews that you see nowadays

[@bunnyfrosting1744]

I’m so surprised more people don’t like their newest album more. It took me a while to get into it, but after blasting it in my headphones, learning the lyrics enough to sing along, and letting myself DANCE, I’m so fond of it. Imo that’s how their music should be listened to 🤧

[@volutedmetal8543]

Yep, TIW and AL are definitely my two favorites from them! I think every album has been better than the one before it (until TIW bc I just feel like it's on equal footing with AL instead of being better). So much fun to just dance and sing along with those last couple records!

[@DJ88Masterchief]

I love the new album, but my first listen was on vacation in Florida, blasting the new music around Daytona, Disney and Universal. So the sound brings back memories of just having the most fun I’ve had this year.

[@tonedowne]

Yeah, so you didn’t “playlist it”, you took the time to listen to it as it was intended to be listened to. More people should do this

[@mysteriousskin]

It’s so good live too like their loss

[@nathanielcava4128]

Because why would you like it if you’re a fan of Riot and brand new eyes? It’s a new sound totally for the most part.

[@owenwelch6167]

Even though it's not really hayley's fault I cannot imagine how frustrating it was for the rest of the band to constantly be second fiddle.

[@philly_sports1558]

I honestly don’t think Zac and Taylor care at all. They seem like quiet and chill dudes who like to keep to themselves. Besides, Taylor is literally dating Hayley lol

[@laramorrison5973]

Zac and Taylor definitely don't care, they are really chill. Taylor hates any attention and Zac loves just doing his own thing and has always championed Hayley as their front woman

[@DomSte128]

​@@philly_sports1558is not about spotlight, but more about not being able to voice their opinions on lyrics, production and contract things

[@canniloni]

but isn't it the same thing in so many other bands?? somehow people only care when it's paramore, but i swear the same is true for bring me the horizon//oli sykes, panic at the disco (until only brendon urie remained) and so many other bands, but somehow it never comes up with them.

[@laramorrison5973]

@@DomSte128 josh wrote all of the music until he left, Taylor produced the last two albums and has written the entirety of the music since josh left until Zac co wrote with this is why. Zac and Taylor have always said they don't care about the lyrics and that's Hayley's domain. The contract was also out of all of their control, they only got out of that awful contract this year and it was signed when Hayley was 13. Hayley even tried to get out of it in 2016 when she quit the band briefly.

[@fatalmicrobes]

"Taylor had managed to single handedly save music." real

[@callmek5]

FRRR

[@mrdewb]

brainrot comment

[@noofthecorn3380]

​@@mrdewbagreed

[@abook2141]

?

[@fatalmicrobes]

​@@mrdewbkzbin.info/www/bejne/nqObqaipa92clZosi=cDMWP6qr2rUGQdcM

[@BonoLightier]

They just got 2 grammy nominations! Let's gooooo

[@teddyfurstman1997]

YES!

[@dasbose9999]

Yeyy with they're trash new album

[@BonoLightier]

@@dasbose9999 well, that's a lie, but ok

[@borginburkes1819]

@@dasbose9999lmaoo 😂

[@bloodromance4776]

Grammy is a s*it. Never trust them to shape your music preferences

[@homogenicmp3]

After Laughter is probably my favorite Paramore album, I saw them live in 2017 and 2022 and they were great.

[@dasbose9999]

Nice joke

[@user-lv5nh6ep5l]

I wish I saw them in 2010, but I can't stand her politics in concert now.

[@dasbose9999]

@@user-lv5nh6ep5l so true hayley s so annoying

[@scottcollins7198]

I've seen them at least once on every U.S. tour leg since the Self-Titled tour, and their performance chops really are aging like a fine wine. Hayley's opt-ups/improvs are like liquid gold, her stage presence is still as strong as it's ever been, Zac and Taylor's playing is so tight, the band is able to adapt and sound good playing any song from any record, and they truly just put on such an incredible show. I'm glad to see them upping the budget and doing arena shows again for the pure spectacle/magic, but the AL era shows felt so intimate and brought in such a diverse group of folks. I've made so many friends in the pits of Paramore shows. Since we're all elder emos who've grown up with the band, it more often than not feels like you're surrounded by friends. Can't wait for the next album cycle so I can do it all over again (:

[@wiquid]

Even though I hate pop music, I’m pretty sure AL is my favorite Paramore album too

[@KingKafei]

Paramore is my favorite band and I was so fucking glad to be able to see them with floor seats pretty close to the stage this past June after so long

[@ivanperez4627]

I saw them in July for the first time and omg they’re amazing live!! It felt so special. Idk how to describe it. They made me feel like I was at concert home if that makes sense. They had to postpone some dates that week due to Illness but they didn’t postpone Tulsa! (Where I saw them)

[@rubydoo3307]

I saw them in Melbourne like yesterday and I’m so impressed by the showmanship and talent, they’re so good live!

[@scottcollins7198]

My toxic trait is getting pit seats to every U.S. leg of every Paramore tour for the past 10 years haha. I saw them 3 times in 2022-23, and it's such a magical experience to be surrounded by people that grew up with the band, and the show they put on is incredible. I've made so many friends on the floor at Paramore shows, and I can't wait for the next album cycle so that I can do it all over again (:

[@SuperCezo]

Man that echo effect to transition the songs back to the narration is top notch editing lol I was nerding out so much about it

[@machennii3336]

no legit i noticed it too😭😭

[@akasuki9614]

Samee it's so cool!!

[@JorbyTinky]

Great video. I wish there was a bit more focus on Taylor's earlier influence on the band. He's known Zac, Josh, and Hayley since they were in middle school. He starting writing music with Hayley when they were 12 and 13, he also had writing credits on Riot. His parents wanted him to finish high school before joining the band, which is why Taylor didn't become a member until he was 18.

[@valence7]

I'm so glad you made a video about them. Their albums are always incredible!

[@woody_you_want]

I think the drama with them just comes with forming in high school. I'm 28 and there is still always drama with my high school friends. It makes them even more relatable

[@bananachocs]

This is a well researched piece. It didn't fall into the traps that others have unfortunately managed to do. Excellent.

[@TheNinjapancake14]

What traps?

[@EllaGP22]

I still believe Brand New Eyes is their strongest effort to date, but I genuinely don’t think any of their records are bad. They each offer something unique and the fact that they can change their sound almost effortlessly between albums shows just how dynamic and talented they are.

[@MyPokebros]

The constant struggle the band went through, to now consistency in its members is so nice. Following Hayley on social media for a while, she was genuinely quite open about how she was feeling, you could tell she was going through it. With all of that and probably more behind the scenes Paramore and Hayley's own personal projects just keep getting stronger imo.

[@BahamutBreaker]

Outstanding overview of the trials and tribulations in Paramore’s career. It’s crazy how much excellent rock music has come from such a fractured, splintered group, where every member and ex-member had at least one very public drama or episode of depression. I agree with several other commenters that Brand New Eyes is their best start-to-finish album. However, the latest album, This Is Why, is very, very close. In a decade that’s really lacked much solid original fresh rock music (at least in North America), This Is Why really stands out as superb.

[@cheddarmx5969]

I agree with all of this except for the last part about lack of new rock. This decade has brought us stuff like Black Country, new road, or Pheobe and Boy Genius’s Albums, or Sun Room, or Slowdive, or Snail Mail, or Big Thief, or deftones, there’s so much great rock music for every corner of the genre if you’re willing to look for it. It might not be as mainstream but that doesn’t mean it isn’t there.

[@Maialeen]

@cheddarmx5969 All you have to do is spend just a little time on Spotify or some platform like that and you have good new music from your preferred genres literally thrown in your face constantly. These people who say things like we're lacking in good new rock music are like aliens to me. Like they look nowhere and then wonder why there's nothing

[@cheddarmx5969]

@@Maialeen I agree it’s super easy, I’ve found some of my favorite artists ever (specifically Black Country, New Road) just scrolling the Spotify fresh finds playlists or getting recommended them via a playlist. Spotify is elite for curating amazing music and presenting it to you.

[@martinjez1]

I've been a fan of them since 2007 and they somehow haven't missed a single time with their releases since, even with all of the issues in the band. That to me is amazing.

[@thundabearz5092]

They've missed, like, 100 times.

[@megantheestallionsgynecologist]

@@thundabearz5092 no need for the commas grammatically

[@thambidave]

13:23 imagine being the new guy and then being the only guy left

[@laramorrison5973]

taylor was hardly new, he'd been in the band since he was 12 and 'officially' for 7 years by that point. He wrote some of paramores earliest songs and has credits on that's what you get. His parents wanted him to finish school which is fair as he was 14 (like Zac) when Paramore started touring. Taylor is the only reason paramore have survived, Hayley and Zac have said it many times.

[@JoshFraser-co9zc]

The bands first practice in his basement

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

New is relative, and so he was the "new" guy@@laramorrison5973

[@canniloni]

taylor knew zac and josh before hayley knew them. his parents wanted him to finish high school before he could officially join the band, him and hayley even wrote a song together when they were 12 and 13 ("Oh Star").

[@gylandibbs]

Ngl had the mental image of him standing alone in front of the Riot! banner like fucken Michael Cera

[@mysteriousskin]

After laughter is an album that changed my life like omgggg the trio was meant to be all along

[@ryan_is_here_now]

I know most paramore fans think of All we know is falling as there weakest album but I fuc*ing love that album! Knowing how young they all were really makes it more impressive

[@catarinaqueiroz6855]

I love that album too, is amazing and so special.

[@vinci6728]

I respectfully disagree with those fans. I've been a Paramore fan since AWKIF and I know damn well that it's not their weakest album.

[@dasbose9999]

​@vinci6728 it's absolutely they're weakest one stop fckn lying

[@dasbose9999]

​@@catarinaqueiroz6855poor girl 😂

[@EmelyBD]

All we know is Falling is my favorite album. Here We Go Again, is my all time favorite Paramore song. It is just so fun to sing too

[@MonsterPill]

shout out to their touring band as well. Logan, Brian and the Joeys have brought a fresh energy to their band and you can see it in the live shows.

[@cindardewi27]

parafour!

[@alexlaycock5878]

There are very little bands so good at reinventing themselves as Paramore with an interesting changing sound every release! It’s like there’s something for everyone when you listen

[@viviana2263]

Taylor has been the only member of the group (besides hayley) that has been enduring in this project over the years. For that, when i noticed that both of them were having a relationship everything had scense in some way.

[@EVRNDR]

I've been a Paramore die-hard for seventeen years - well over half my life. This band has been a staple in everything that I have done music-wise, and I'm so thankful to them for being such a huge inspiration to me over the years.

[@valentinarmenta4982]

They kinda mids tho

[@lordsubl1me]

​@@valentinarmenta4982 real and true

[@BlackFox15]

I've been a fan since I was 17 and at 32 I finally got to see them live with the friend who introduced me to them all those years ago🧡 Also, Hayley's solo album Petals for Armor kept me going in a painfully dark part of my life. My life at the time mirrored the album so much it was cathartic and kept me pushing forward 🧡

[@sheilaellis124]

PFA is so so good

[@macsnafu]

I think it's pretty amazing that this band started when they were teens, and now they've all grown up and are *still* a band! This Is Why sounds great, and I'm an old fogey, hardly in their target demographic.

[@peterpallagi4776]

I recently started listening to this band (with This Is Why ) and fall in love with them, collecting all their records. Hayley is S tier female singer (and songwriter!) in my opinion. I wasn't the biggest fan of 2000's emo-pop punk or it just wasn't on my focus around that time (felt way too youngster's stuff as a genre). Now, somehow I started to like their early work, even I "missed" it. The quality is there esp. Riot and Brand New Eyes, basically no skips for me on those. Great, clean, well edited and structured content as always. Thank you!

[@ShhItsKelli]

15 years with Paramore and I love them even more wholeheartedly now than I did back then as a teenager. Four days until I see them live for the 2nd time in my life and I am so ready to cry hard and dance harder!

[@iammehowru]

I saw them live for the first time last week, despite being a fan for 20 years. Hayley spoke about a lot of what you have said here, about how it doesnt feel like the peak is behind them, and theyre still on top of their game. It was also the biggest show theyve ever played. They just keep getting better and better

[@Shell1425]

I was always a fan of Paramore, and I listened to them casually during the first 4 four albums they released. However, something clicked for me during After Laughter, and I even went back and revisited their older stuff! This new album, for me, was so concise and fine-tuned and just solidified my love for them. You can see they are in a good space and are even ready to start recording new music already. I'm so happy that they have found their groove. I can't wait to see what they produce next.

[@paisan8766]

Riot! Is an all-time classic album. This is Why is really good, they came back very strong with that

[@6grimslim917]

After laughter is my comfort album, tbh I'm not a rock fan so it makes sense. I only listen to a few other songs but after laughter has accompanied me through so much.

[@jayped8660]

This is Why was an incredible release. To be able to come back and drop something like that after those years is impressive.

[@whytho1368]

What else can be expected when signing a 13 YEAR OLD to an 8 ALBUM contract?? Imagine all the drama of your teens and twenties being heavily scrutinized by the public.. I have an insane amount of love and respect for Hayley, Taylor, and Zac for sticking through and giving us AL and TIW after all the BS and judgment forced on them

[@Stefarooh]

Outside of all the drama, this is still one of my absolute favourite bands.

[@joshtalbot6917]

Glad you’ve done paramore, got massively into them last couple of years

[@ben-was-taken]

absolutely masterful video man, well done this was a treat to watch as a huge paramore fan. can't wait to see them on their new zealand tour in a few weeks.

[@user-pixis967]

God I love them so much and I have a lot of respect for their growth not just as a band but as people too. And Hayley always was and will be a idol to me since she already taught me as a 11 y.o. teen to be okay with how you feel and keep pushing forward - just like the band members showed in all those years to each other. I really hope they will have a great time that lasts as long as it can.

[@dasbose9999]

Slow down man 😂

[@user-pixis967]

@@dasbose9999 nope I don't think so :)

[@joaodmveigas6595]

Finally a video about Paramore!! Thank you so much, keep up with the good work! Cheers from Portugal

[@reyne8424]

I‘ve been a fan since I discovered Ignorance on KZbin on one of my first solo trips around the internet some 15 years ago. My taste in music has evolved a lot since then and Paramore is the only band that has managed to match my current taste perfectly every time they’ve released a new album. I‘m 25 now and I‘m convinced their music helped me get to the healthy place I’m in now. It’s certainly helped me get through the hardest times.

[@sebastiancommons5404]

This was such a great video essay! Really empathetic and informative

[@TaylorPie94]

1. Glad she and that man divorced. He had no business in a relationship with a teenager in his 20s.

[@jjohnventures]

This is great 👏 Paramore is definitely one of the greatest rock band in this generation. Anyway, Taylor York has been with the band since the beginning he co-wrote paramore’s first songs oh star, and conspiracy from the debut album when they were 13years old. His parents just wanted him to finish high school and turn 18 before they allowed him to start touring with them.

[@roneteus]

Daaaamn, After Laughter was 6 years ago already? Loved the 80s and Duran Duran vibes. Have you ever thought about doing a deep dive on Edward Sharpe and The Magnetic Zeros?

[@paulasaucedo6642]

I have been looking for this video for 2 years now thank you so much for this

[@gadiel_flx]

Thanks!! He estado tratando de entender la historia de la banda por mucho tiempo y la mayoría explica solo una parte y no lo explica a detalle como tú. Ahora comprendo más a la banda y su situación, y ahora los aprecio más. Increíble video 🖤

[@lucydibble9090]

Seeing them this Saturday in New Zealand! CANT WAIT

[@davidls187]

About time to see the broader music community give Paramore the recognition they deserve as great musicians and not just another angsty emo band from the 2000s

[@prianganbloke]

it is always mesmerizing to watch your documentary!

[@michelcomenta]

as a Paramore fan i can say this is an awesome video! and the editing is also great, i loved it 🖤

[@PabloAfroSamurai]

One of my favourite bands growing up, they continue to evolve and I continue to love them.

[@paulettejordan8505]

Self Titled and Brand New Eyes are my favorite. Thank you Taylor York for saving music. ❤❤

[@wzdmshorts]

"It was the perfect storm of a lot of things. Josh and Hayley had been secretly dating during the AWKIF and Riot! eras but broke up towards the end of the latter era. Then Hayley began dating the guitarist from New Found Glory. I think Josh was still hurt/bitter about the breakup and now when he composed a melody, it was likely to be turned into a love song about her new beau. There had been rumors of bickering about Hayley getting the most attention. People often treated Paramore as Hayley Williams and her Backup Dudes (some still do now, honestly), which obviously doesn't feel good if you're someone who started a band as a teenager, invited a girl in to be your singer, and now she's all anybody cares about. Hayley had tried so, so hard to get people to see them as a band. She'd worn "Paramore is a band" shirts all the time and would call out journalists on live journal if they wrote with the Hayley Williams and her Backup Dudes narrative. Josh and Hayley were also becoming different people. Josh now is quite religiously fundamentalist and politically conservative. Hayley has been more deconstructive in her spirituality and leans more liberal politically. Both were already taking baby steps in their different directions and so they just ended up with un-bridgable theological differences. This was an issue for them with things like lyrics because Josh would at times think her lyrics were sinful in some way and they'd fight over it and Josh ended up begrudging the feeling that Hayley had more creative control in what the songs were about, even if it was a message he didn't want to stand behind. They also were really young when this all went down, like their younger 20s, and so Hayley would try to shout down everybody who made her feel lesser. Josh wrote this open letter online after quitting that basically said Hayley was a diva bitch and bad Christian. They were just at an age where they didn't have the communication skills to deal with the big angry emotions that they were dealing with." -the-bearwitch (reddit)

[@folkmetalflorid]

tasteful, accurate, love to see it. excellent work

[@kornelparoczai1763]

Every band needs a Taylor York

[@InkAndPoet]

And now, This Is Why, both the song and album, are nominated for the Grammys!!!!!

[@Middle8]

Would be a great capstone to earn that Best Rock Album

[@Tityretupatulae]

@@Middle8not if a masterpiece like Starcatcher is nominated next to it

[@zeribot2300]

Since high school, i’ve been listening to this band more than any rock band since it was the only female vocalist who’s on rock genre. I anticipate their song on MTV and fell in love with their song Ignorance. Up until now Paramore songs help me and their songs saved me. I can feel the drama angst on their first album that I felt during my teen, and now their new album is like my new stage in my life (this is why) recently graduated and just discovering the world is complex, unfair and difficult. It’s a big jump for me scary but I am trying my best to keep my life in balance and fight those demons awaaay

[@alexaguilera8563]

Your work is awesome man! You manage to condense a bands' entire discography and history in less than a 30 min video and at the same time succeeding in making the viewers (at least me) appreciate the work behind the sound of the artist. Oh, and I'm not even mentioning your surprisingly good editing. Seriously, your videos have a Netflix level documentary quality to them but with a style of your own. To me, your one of the best content creators in KZbin. Keep it up!🙌 Btw, are you the one doing the sound desing in your videos? For example, you sometimes use a remixed version of a song from the artist who you are talking about as an outro for the video. Did you produce that remix? Either way, awesome content👌

[@jacksonscott690]

This is why is easily one of best composited albums I’ve heard in a long time… it reminded me what music can offer. Giant kudos the the whole team.

[@teddyf3960]

Tell Me How from After Laughter has been my anthem these last few months as I go through a loss of a best friendship. It was like Hayley was singing the words straight from my brain. “Do I suffocate or let go.”

[@wherethemodsat193]

Ty for this information I’ve been a fan for a long time but never looked into the personal drama around the band.

[@hoodedmexican]

Best part of being a Paramore fan is that they just keep going up and up in the art no matter what.

[@joelco92]

Never really given this band a chance, but after seeing this it’s made me wanna start exploring some of their discography.

[@ellynestrada9554]

I just like the idea that someday, someone will produce a film about their band journey. Manifesting!!!

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

even though I was introduced to them through the self titled album (ain’t it fun used to play all the Time) Riot! and Brand New Eyes still hold a special place in my heart

[@invisAG]

Despite all the hardships they’ve been through as a band Paramore never miss. Every album is a masterpiece

[@soph.naomiii]

coming back to this video after the chaos of them going independent AND winning two more grammys (first women fronted rock album winners!) it’s amazing to see them once again make it

[@randeepyasintha140]

Sound mixing in this video is on another level.

[@Iz-730]

I was waiting for a middle 8 video on paramore and I couldn’t be more happier 😁

[@shanchick]

This was made soo well!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@jotadeltoro7155]

Great video!! good job 😉

[@YoYo-yq5uo]

This is why (album + song) just got nominated for two Grammys. 2023 really is their year

[@TeganCantEven]

They’ve been my favorite band since that very first record. 🧡🧡

[@maryannappiagyei4277]

Amazing band all members. This band.

[@davehandelman2832]

This was Fantastic!!

[@Middle8]

Thank you! 🙏

[@matthewshell]

I enjoyed this. Great job.

[@6Goth6Broth6]

Dude what is Jeremy's actual problem. Make up your mind, bro.

[@AfricanEmpress25]

I literally feel like growing up, the songs always made parts of the playlist of my life. Always loved this band.

[@Mayeru]

i remember when i first knew about Paramore many years ago, i thought "meh, a trendi rock wannabe band" and then started listening to the most popular songs and went: "oh, is not that bad", before i realized i was listening to the full first 3 albums and liked all the songs (this never happened to me with any artist before) and then the next album came out and i loved it as well, and then the next, and the sound changed and many fans complained but i actually enjoyed it as well, and then the next....at the end i loved each and every single song from this band because it felt real, the lyrics resonated with me, the melodies always were fun or emotional and Hayley's tone and vocal power is superb. I wish these guys continue to make great songs because the day Paramore stops producing music will be a sad day indeed for the music community.

[@NadiaOnline]

There is no propf that hayley cheated on josh, please stop spreading that rumor. She’s only admitted to be chad gilbert’s “other woman” during his past marriage.

[@Setashi]

I'm so glad that Josh and Jeremy are gone. Hayley, Taylor, and Zac are the perfect trio.

[@Middle8]

Their current line up is their best line-up. Josh and Jeremy’s energy always seemed off compared to the current 3

[@francismatias4303]

Not to mention the current touring lineup, they round out the band so well!

[@sufiadha6171]

Been a fan since the riot days im just grateful that there is still paramore. what other bands from the 2000s that are still touring and making new music. I feel lucky

[@TheRockGod]

I discovered them originally with Ain’t It Fun…now I’m interested in hearing more

[@AlexanderDrums01]

Truely truely an amazing and inspiring story about never give up and not losing your drive/passion, thank you Paramore and Middle8

[@TheToxic35]

This is Why is not just my favorite album of theirs, but one of my favorite albums ever

[@Fredlyy]

"Taylor had single-handedly saved music" so true

[@therocketmanarch]

I've never been a big fan of their earlier albums. Sure, "Fences", "Misery Business", "Decoy" are certified bangers, but I get tired while listening to them pretty quickly. I guess pop-punk is just not my cup of tea. But I really love "After Laughter". Such a great album! Lots of cool and interesting guitar riffs, great keyboards, excellent lyrics ("No, I don't need no help, I can sabotage me by myself"), and only one filler track, "No Friend".

[@f4gsforpele]

This Is Why is their best

[@therocketmanarch]

@@f4gsforpele I think the singles were really weak. But the rest of the album didn't disappoint.

[@f4gsforpele]

@@therocketmanarch weak?? 💀 where?? Only C’est Comme Ça isn’t great. The title track is an absolute banger, as is The News, and Running Out Of Time is one of the best songs of last year

[@therocketmanarch]

@@f4gsforpele Well, it's a matter of personal preferences. The singles didn't hook me at all. Although, I admit, the live version of the title track is good. More keyboards, Hayley's voice in the verses was not as thin as in the studio version, and the "...like a cannonBAAAAALL!" wail was nicely done.

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

now that I think about it, no band that I even lightly care about has had as many heartbreaking departures as Paramore. Still not over the Farros leaving that one time or Davis being gone for good.

[@juchuva]

still not over jerm beats

[@michaelsheehan5905]

I love that she insisted on having her band mates even though the label only wanted her.

[@pauljosse]

Being in a band is HARD WORK and its not the music, its the hours, the people, money.