Just FYI you can send midi chords on the Polyend Tracker to external synths as of one of the more recent updates which was a huge upgrade!
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
I missed that! Thanks for sharing my friend🙌🏻
@JamesRamboPearce2 жыл бұрын
@@MidlifeSynthesist Anytime dude, great video!
@fluorophoremusic36792 жыл бұрын
Another reason I would never buy the Digitakt I guess. Just seems...backwards compared to even something like the Squid which is maybe half the cost used.
@JB-xz6dt Жыл бұрын
@@fluorophoremusic3679 you can send midi chords using a single Digitakt midi channel as well. Been doing it for years
@Polyend2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video, thank you so much!
@sinewaymusic2 жыл бұрын
The Digitakt (and to some extent even more so the Digitone) are easily the most *fun* devices I've used for live performances. As a bedside music sketchpad device, they would have been just perfect if they could be powered through usb-c and have a battery compartment - and if the buttons weren't so clickery-clacky. The p-lock and ctrl+all features are just amazing. So immediate and so much fun. And, crucially, they're so musical. The reverb sounds amazing, as does the distortion. I created some of my coolest beats on these machines and really wish they would release a mk2 with the above things addressed. I don't really care about song mode because I do my production on my MPC One anyway. But for the much needed creative inspiration, the Elektron boxes are second to none.
@chareslamb872 жыл бұрын
Can I ask how you do your production on the MPC? I got one to use just for that. But do you record your takt/tone directly in as an audio track? Or do you sample it in? Or record to daw through over ridge and then load up into the MpC? Thank you in advance.
@SlantedbutEnchanted3 ай бұрын
This was great, thank you. Will you be doing the new polyend tracker plus anytime soon?
@Maochan812 жыл бұрын
"Baby poop brown"...that brings back memories :)
@rayvo_222 жыл бұрын
Would super appreciate that in depth sample mangling comparison!
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
100%! Thanks for the feedback!
@jacobesmagobes8664 Жыл бұрын
Would love a deep dive into sample management on the tracker. I bought a Polyend recently and I have fallen in love with it. Great video!!
@ghargie53682 жыл бұрын
Great overview. Many thanks. Problem is, I now need both!!
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
GAS is a hell of a drug! Lol🤣
@rishpanjeet7479 Жыл бұрын
NOTHING beats the Tracker. It’s SO easy.
@ghargie53682 жыл бұрын
My next buy will be the Digitakt. I bought the Digitone a few month ago and there is something about the Elektron methodology that is fun and inspiring. As a dedicated DAW user, this was a revelation. Loving your channel, both informative and entertaining.
@leftmono10162 жыл бұрын
I got a Digitakt a few years ago and it instantly clicked with me. So much so that I had a gear exodus to fund an Analog Four, Digitone and RYTM. Love them all 😀
@andrewmunsterman-wn7vv9 ай бұрын
Get the digitakt
@Number012 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to a midi comparison! Great video. Thank you for your lived in insight. I too second the sound mangling video.
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the feedback! I’ll start working on it soon!
@0CircleMaker0 Жыл бұрын
Nice, quick ,informative video. The tracker looks like the best one for me.
@Gazmatron826 ай бұрын
😂😂 When you got into the back seat between two car seats! I felt that! 😂
@MidlifeSynthesist5 ай бұрын
😂
@crybo2 жыл бұрын
Just bought the Digitakt again!
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Lol, ain’t that the way though? (That’s my second digitakt as well 😅)
@ThePluutoni5 ай бұрын
pls more tutorials on using these instruments...your videos over the last few years have convinced me to buy these cool toys and now im trying to learn them. you are a great teacher and id love to keep learning with you!
@alexanderlane2 жыл бұрын
I'd for sure be interested in the sampling comparison between these two! And compared to the OT and deluge as well... I know you've done some of those comparisons already with your sampler wars videos. Might be interesting to do a video where you take one sample and try to mangle it in a similar though not identical direction on each device and see where the device brings you?
@petrfux2 жыл бұрын
I love how you are doing your stuff.
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much my friend!🙏🏼
@bahutu8022 жыл бұрын
I wasn't even considering a comparison of those two devices before I saw your video. I mean, the primary characteristic of a device is at the end the workflow. And with regards to that, the two devices couldn't be more different. It's a huge difference whether you input notes and FX through a spreadsheet and FX lists, or whether you just parameter lock something in a step sequencer. Sure, there is the Perform Mode on the Tracker, but it relies on already more or less finished patterns; so it is more about mangling your pre-programmed tracks while they are on playback; while with Elektron devices you might actually be able to start a track from scratch without listeners even noticing the pattern(s) were empty before you started. That is not to say that one or the other device was 'better' or so; just that it's like comparing a computer keyboard with a paintbrush. Nevertheless of course thanks for the video and all the helpful information!
@davidsanfeliumarco96642 жыл бұрын
Would be great to see the deep dive along sample management on both devices 😅✌️
@mwood16182 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Digitakt was originally released in 2017 and can still standup against more contemporary competition is a testament to this thing's capabilities. Sure, it's missing some of the quality of life things that I'd maybe use once in a blue moon. But if you are going DAWless or hybrid, there is no better central brain to drive a hardware setup. Plus, the Elecktron sequencer is still one of the best around.
@punkassfunk Жыл бұрын
It's only five years, not an old machine. And it is still being updated. If a machine is to be obsloete after only 5 years, it's probably a bad machine.
@exviking92052 жыл бұрын
love my polyend. great review.
@LeadCrucifix12 жыл бұрын
loved the video! but all it did was cement me further on the fence about which one to go with! I'd love any deep dive videos you have in mind
@DanB5 ай бұрын
thanks for this video !! keep up the good work:) :)
@MidlifeSynthesist5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ronaldnollet14619 ай бұрын
That was awesome thnx cheers from Australia
@MidlifeSynthesist9 ай бұрын
🫶🏼🤩
@GeorgeLocke2 жыл бұрын
This is a meaningful comment with content intended for humans and not merely driving traffic by way of indicating "engagement" to a robot
@afuckinusername2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dude, thanks for another interesting video! I already thought you are too deep in Elden Ring to make music. Sometimes I wonder where you find the time for all that. I have two daughters and next to the day job and family it is not easy to make time for music. Keep up the good work, a new video from you always makes me happy! Cheers from Germany!
@bailiff3602 жыл бұрын
Perfectly timed my friend. I am trying to decide between the two of these two groove boxes. Thank you for the wonderful video
@_Planeview_4 ай бұрын
What did you pick?
@bailiff3604 ай бұрын
@@_Planeview_ I got both the Digitakt and the Tracker at different times since this. Both have their charms and in my opinion aren't super comparable. I would say I like the Digitakt more between the two, but the Tracker is not without it's charms. The best thing about the Digitakt is that it plays well with your other gear and the sequencer is amazing. If I had to pick one that'd be my choice. I still loved the Tracker though
@soyunbonus Жыл бұрын
I find the Tracker better for sequencing, and the Digitakt better for live performance and jamming. Both are great!
@SergeyCoder Жыл бұрын
True. Thinking the same way. Tried to make several songs. DT is not a device that inspiring to make music at home. Every time I need to learn buttons combinations, repeating & fighting with DT workflow.
@cruepprich2 жыл бұрын
File management and menu driving are big items for me.
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Huge! Seems like MPCs newest update will put them ahead of the game in the file management and menu diving arena🤟🏻 the tracker feels a bit more menu divey than the digitakt if you’re wondering😉thanks for watching!
@Niko80s2 жыл бұрын
I did own many of hardware synths and grooveboxes through last years, and two boxes that i found to be most flexible, easy and intuitive to use where Yamaha Rm1x and Polyend Tracker. Didnt own any elektron boxes so far so cant compare to Pt , but i'm always into searching gear that i can produce na entire track on and as far as i know this is basically more easy to achive on PT because of it's Song mode.
@peladoclaus2 жыл бұрын
Song mode!!! Need to be able to play sets of continuous house music
@kedb742 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for taking the time and effort comparing these two wonderful devices,in this very nicely put together video. They're both very compelling. Very nice music created with these machines,by the way. Now,..which one to get?
@natancouchpotato6559 Жыл бұрын
Do you plan to do a comparison between the Tracker and Model Samples in the future? Great content btw! Also algorithm do your thing.
@MidlifeSynthesist Жыл бұрын
Thanks for feeding the algo😜 I don’t have plans for the elektron samples but you never know! Thanks for tuning in my friend!🙌🏻
@treesurgeon2441 Жыл бұрын
The tracker has a lot more features than the Samples. The Samples has the great sequencer and it's sufficient for people who want a cheaper instrument and are dipping their toes into the Elektron workflow but the tracker is a deeper instrument once you master how trackers are laid out. Bare in mind I own the samples and am trying to upgrade to a Tracker.
@natancouchpotato6559 Жыл бұрын
@@treesurgeon2441 thanks a lot for the recommendation!
@jboulderct Жыл бұрын
Great info and the best like and comment requests out there. Take note, interwebz
@apprentmix2 жыл бұрын
I have never been able to get my ripcords to work with the Digitakt or Digitone, with a battery or anything else. The Tracker seems to work perfectly plugged in to just about anything!
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
I love that they made it so easy to connect to any powersource with a usb c cable for sure!
@MilesKvndra2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comparison my dude! This is a super cool comparison and really nice overview. I'll stick to my beloved Digitakt for now but keeping a close eye to all these new trackers out there - I'm not familiar to these workflows but it looks super interesting! Cheers buddy
@sinewaymusic2 жыл бұрын
You're doing exactly what makes you so great at what you do: staying focused and going deeper with the stuff you own.
@SoulRoh2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! That deepness you mentioned is maybe what convinces me of the Tracker. Interesting thing is: you just made a video with the two machines which impressed me the most while searching for the right gear.
@DanReederMusic10 ай бұрын
this was a big help
@MidlifeSynthesist10 ай бұрын
🥰🤩
@carlosvallejomusic2 жыл бұрын
¡Very interesting! I guess you will be probably thinking about a future video comparison between Polyend tracker and M8. I wanna buy in a future a brain dawless machine and I don't know what to choose: Deluge, M8 or Polyend tracker. I need one of them to join my Minilogue xd and the and my new "toy": Norns Shield (and a PO-33). :)
@NightCabbage2 жыл бұрын
M8 is smaller and more powerful than the Polyend, plus it has built-in synths. Easy choice for me :D (Deluge also amazing, but workflow is a bit different to a tracker)
@jolieuke2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very useful review !
@SergeyCoder Жыл бұрын
Main pros of DT - knobs & quick access to effects, shortcut-like (buttons combinations) production. Main pros of tracker - big screen, notes processing, it's like writing music book (very helpful if you know musical notation), simplicity. I tried both, but DT is look like device for live performance, feels like advanced pro tool with it's ecosystem. Tracker looks like workstation for music production from start to end. Yes, you can make music on both devices, but if we talking about simplicity & starting making music after device unpacking - elektron-way is more tricky & require more time to dive into full process. Also tracker is a device that I can take with me, it's compact & light. It's like an MPC, but way more portable.
@galaxyofsynths Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. Made my choice easier. Look forward to some more Tracker tips and tricks and pieces. Very inspiring
@xdrabbit2 жыл бұрын
Great info! Love your channel!
@martingoldmannmusic2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison - did my first sounds with a tracker back in the days on an Amiga. That concept was quite interesting for everyone who wasn't into keyboards... Guess I would get a tracker as software for my Mac if I ever feel like playing one again. But I will definitely get my Digitakt from the shelf and give it a go with some new samples. Thank you for that video.
@Meitao232 жыл бұрын
Love the content for the Tracker.
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend!
@andrewdoucet30292 жыл бұрын
Very helpful information here! Thanks for putting this together-it is appreciated.
@variousdispositions2 жыл бұрын
Yes please on sound design deep dives!!
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Will do! Thanks for watching my friend!
@GeorgeLocke2 жыл бұрын
I heard that the Elektron founders came up in the "demoscene" which was a community of tracker users.
@GeorgeLocke2 жыл бұрын
(Heard from an elektron employee in a Gaz Williams video in the digitone)
@kostaStratigos Жыл бұрын
Great rundown! Thanks for posting.
@iNuchalHead2 жыл бұрын
Can't listen to the radio on Digitakt ; )
@SonicVibe2 жыл бұрын
Kinda hyped for the smpltrek like a Quarter of the size of these
@wariusgaius2 жыл бұрын
Buy a pocket operator if you are concerned with size.
@SonicVibe2 жыл бұрын
@@wariusgaius Sequencing on a pocket operators is a headache 🤕 I use mine mainly for loops or fx
@VIRALBEATS3602 жыл бұрын
I am definitely waiting on that.
@lukerabin50792 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I’m thinking of exploring synth sound design and these two turn up frequently. This makes decisions much easier.
@kostraone2 жыл бұрын
Good review thanx
@am5790 Жыл бұрын
appreciate for a practical comparison review.
@happyjessus2 жыл бұрын
I for one am down for the deep dive workflow comparison!
@kareemnoble2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼🙌🏻
@Patryk149012 жыл бұрын
Great Video! My fav one is Octatrack, bit different then these two, but also a powerful toy. Do you consider making comparison of Analog Rytm vs. Other? Lemme now! Big Thumbs :)
@Viennatom. Жыл бұрын
great video!
@MidlifeSynthesist Жыл бұрын
Thank you!🙌🏻🙌🏻
@stevecoppin63962 жыл бұрын
cool tune
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@nickyp3109 ай бұрын
Love your channel!!!
@lfarrolas Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@synthlab4 ай бұрын
I don't have anything to say, i am here to add a comment to just trigger the youtube algorithm in your favour ... No, that's a lie, i really want to thank you for this video.
@MidlifeSynthesist4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!🙌🏻 appreciate you my friend!!
@williamtell1477 Жыл бұрын
Cool review!
@seanleeduncan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. Is one more suited to Drum n Bass- style jamming/writing? PS Yes, please make a deep dive comparison.
@kevynquiros40142 жыл бұрын
Thx for the excellent content
@clacclackerson36782 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@stulora31723 ай бұрын
yes, deep dive, please.
@StephenMcLeod2 жыл бұрын
I sold my Digitakt and got the Tracker, largely because the 1GB max storage of the Digitakt just feels ludicrous.
@seancraig53732 жыл бұрын
hot and flustered algorithm! (e.g. don't kick the nice guy to the curb-especially with his synths!)
@VIRALBEATS3602 жыл бұрын
After taking the blackbox out (on a plane) for the first time, I gotta tell you, it's going to be difficult to beat that portability. As far as these particular gizmos go, I don't own either, but I think I favor the sound of the elektron. Getting either at this point would be a rabbit hole I prefer to stay out of, for the time being. I still have an MPC to dig into, that I haven't really touched yet, haha.
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
100%! Although I always highly recommend having at least one elektron box in the mix for the sequencer, the MPC is more than enough to pump out entire albums by itself👍🏼 thanks for watching my friend!
@father_jordan2 жыл бұрын
hi algorithm
@Timber-Wolf2 жыл бұрын
Flustering the Algorithm achievement GOT..
@dosomethingelsenow3 ай бұрын
Fluster that algorithm
@spencertatum8972 жыл бұрын
Aye yoooo
@whirrings2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've owned both and I prefer the Digitakt as I find the sequencer more intuitive than the on the Tracker. I was spending too much time coding and being slightly confused on the Tracker even though I wanted to like it! Like you say they are really both good and suit different brains. I also love Overbridge and using the Digitakt as an interface with 2 external audio ins, 8 audio tracks and 8 midi tracks all live into Ableton for FX and mixing - very powerful! Look forward to the next one 👍
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Overbridge definitely takes the Digitakt to another level❤️ thanks for watching my friend!
@Niko80s2 жыл бұрын
Bro what coding are you talking about (on PT)? I own PT , never had any previous tracker experience and i find it's whole workflow ridicolously easy. You dont really need to pay any attention for all that letters and numbers while recording the sequence.
@whirrings2 жыл бұрын
@@Niko80s by "coding" I suppose I just meant changing the values and scrolling through lists - like I say just didn't click for me - I'm glad it's working for you 👍
@wiidlbeetle3857 Жыл бұрын
I’m flustering your algorithm
@pmtoner98524 ай бұрын
Liked
@gilesbowkett4 ай бұрын
deep dive please!
@synthseeker2 жыл бұрын
Trying to decide which one to sell? (Poke poke) ;)
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤭
@brainbox92192 жыл бұрын
I regret selling my tracker, I got renoise after the fact but now I miss it every since getting more hardware
@LurkingCrassZero2 жыл бұрын
Dude swaying his head like Stevie Wonder!
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
So tell me, which one is your favorite 8 track sampler? 🤩
@InkyDaCaT2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the Kickstarter from Sonicware smpltrek 😸 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp_Sp42rYq2Yick
@Polyend2 жыл бұрын
Ya know our answer :D
@InkyDaCaT2 жыл бұрын
@@Polyend hehe
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
@@Polyend 🤣
@justinc97772 жыл бұрын
Polyend! They win my hard earned easy on this one
@BrandonAaskov2 жыл бұрын
You need over 2A power draw for the ripcord to power the Digitakt. Most USB ports throttle somewhere between 500ma and 1A.
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
That explains it! Thanks for stopping by my friend!
@BrandonAaskov2 жыл бұрын
@@MidlifeSynthesist I should also mention that if you got that cable a while ago, there's a chance it was part of a bad batch. MyVolts replaced mine when I had them check my order date to see if I was affected. If you're using a 2A+ battery bank and it's not working, definitely reach out to them.
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonAaskov thanks! I’ll definitely check if mine isn’t faulty👍🏼
@gammakeraulophon10 ай бұрын
Sorry mate ... but you forgot to stipulate whether when having to commit to having your sample rendered through effect on the Polyend.. whether there is a Revert/UNDO? Are there even multiple levels of UNDO? Thanks
@stretchbrah56272 жыл бұрын
After watching a bunch of videos and trying to get familiar with trackers, now I'm leaning towards the polyend. But the real question is for both sequencing external gear and sampling, MPC or Tracker?
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Both offer very different philosophies and purposes, so much so that I don’t think it would be fair to compare them. MPC has polyphony, 128 midi tracks + 8 audio in standalone, I/O, CV, internal synths, splice and ableton integration etc. Polyend is in the groovebox category while MPC is a full blown music workstation. Both are extremely fun and useful in their own ways. Hope that helps👍🏼
@deejaychainwallet2 жыл бұрын
I dont even use my mpc any more but as a brain for a dawless setup its 100% the way to go. my mpc1k I wouldnt sell even if they go up to costing 1k. If you get a mpc1000 instead of one of the new ones get jjos (custom firmware thats worth every penny) and get the fat pads if you like programming velocity by pressure or have a velocity affected synth
@deejaychainwallet2 жыл бұрын
i use my tracker more often (not just because one of my mpc buttons broke) purely because I just want a sketchpad and the .it exporting is great as I am a renoise user, but I wouldnt make it the main brain, especially with no individual outs and only 8 channels
@wren23_bass-synths2 жыл бұрын
I am looking to add the Digitakt since Roland can't seem to supply any 404mkll(the last place I pre-order now says shipping in October). I never use Elektron gear before and heard it's a steep learning curve. Is it a 40/hr wk learning curve or less?
@derekgreenwood96722 жыл бұрын
It's my first groovebox/sampler and I'm an ageing, computer semi-literate piano player. I found Digitakt a little intimidating at first, but once you get used to the workflow it's a joy to use and sounds truly amazing. 40 hours?, yeh you should be able to scratch the surface of what this beast is capable of in that amount of time. Enjoy the ride!
@wren23_bass-synths2 жыл бұрын
@@derekgreenwood9672 I use the 40/hr work week as a parameter to see if I can figure it out working on it a full time week. Like with my MC707 and MPC One, only took me a week each to wrap my head around the workflow of both.
@braien259802 жыл бұрын
Digitakt🍻 Tracker sounds better imo. Master stereo spread fx is verry nice.
@Trippergrind2 жыл бұрын
On the fence between the polyend and the MPC. Is it a pain to load fresh drum samples into the polyend?
@MidlifeSynthesist2 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend! MPC is a full fledged workstation (think computerless DAW). Polyend is awesome, but it’s no contest with the MPC in terms of functionality and horsepower👍🏼 Re: polyend tracker is a pleasure to work drums with
@Trippergrind2 жыл бұрын
@@MidlifeSynthesist thanks brother, left you a follow and checked out a bunch of your other videos. Good stuff
@gianfrancocalvi16052 жыл бұрын
Which model of Thule Gauntlet are you using with the Polyend Tracker ? Is it the 12” or the 13” model ? Thanks
@cesarcarreno_2 жыл бұрын
can both machine "grab"audio? Sample? Thanks for your videos!
@joaquinsantiagoocejo38952 жыл бұрын
so can the polyend go out on stereo or is there a way with other device to have 8 separate output lets say for a venue mixer???
@isaacanthonydj41242 жыл бұрын
i have no need for portability, i don't need either of these, Octatrack has me busy, LoL
@robertlecompte39342 жыл бұрын
Dirtywaves M8 or Polyend Tracker?
@kptamc Жыл бұрын
Where do you get those DigDug lights?
@Mobiluks2 жыл бұрын
1000 wait .. now 😀
@machineagevoodoo21062 жыл бұрын
The midi is tighter on the polyend, for the people that care about this - you can test this yourself by recording and measuring midi jitter in between notes
@wariusgaius2 жыл бұрын
Digitakt is better. I have a hardly functioning memory but when I pick it up after many months not using it, it come back instantly with this machine. And I didn’t like look of the software in the Polyend. Huge rectangles when adjusting levels. And those didn’t move smoothly either when turning a pod.
@alienanxiety4 ай бұрын
Do you ever get a sore neck?
@MidlifeSynthesist4 ай бұрын
That’s my secret captain, my neck is always sore
@alienanxiety4 ай бұрын
@@MidlifeSynthesist it’s a real problem for me when I use these machines. Mostly Elektron. I can play for like half hour before my neck cramps up from looking down.
@MidlifeSynthesist4 ай бұрын
@@alienanxiety absolutely agree. That’s one of the reasons I love the MPC X, it’s probably the most ergonomic beat machine out there🤟🏻