Midnight Screenings - Pan

Brad and Sarah check out the 150 million dollar flop, Pan.

[@MoolbniBrie]

Well I guess this movie panned.

[@lilminer69er]

lol

[@sailoritaly]

+Project Content Genesis Dang it Barbara!

[@wjzav1971]

I took me a few minutes to get that pan...

[@ExKylebur]

Ba dum cha

[@LovlyHorror]

Sarah saying that it would be a good idea to see this movie in the theater if you're on drugs reminds me of the time I came out of a movie theater, looked out the door to see that it was pouring down rain where it hadn't been two hours before, and the theater employee I walked passed said in a very high sounding voice, "Whoa, it's raining."

[@Evilgidgit4Ever]

Why is Blackbeard mining pixie dust to remain youthful, when he is in Neverland, where nothing ages?

[@gabe_s_videos]

I love how every time they talk about a movie, they take time to mention that there were only, like two people in the theater.

[@tyler-nicholeharris5381]

Hook: "Okay kids, just like we practiced!" Orphan Boys: *singing* "COME AS YOU ARE!!" lol

[@harley-wp6xt]

Rob Schneider is in Norm of the North. God help us.

[@PhantosTheHedgehog]

+kool'thuzad This might be the sick masochist in me but I can't wait for the Midnight Screening of that movie. It looks like the perfect movie for Team Snob to rip apart

[@Dameduse823]

+PhantosTheHedgehog Masochism is enjoying your own pain, your coming off as more of a sadist and I'd like to welcome you to the club. The adam sandler movies and the whips are in the back.

[@PhantosTheHedgehog]

+Dameduse823 Hehe, thanks for correcting me on that :)

[@Wazgrel]

Woo, it's Brad and Sarah again! :)

[@JustinSimpson]

They're one of the best duos for Team Snob. :)

[@thomasjenkins7506]

They're one of the best duos for Team Snob. :)

[@kevinthepilgrim]

+Justin Simpson I also like Brad & Dave.

[@andyp1986]

+Konstantine Rymaruk She really is the Tamara to his Doug...or the Tara to his Nash. Either way, I think she's definitely the most consistently entertaining, fun personality on Team Snob (though Brian isn't too far behind).

[@inmoderate]

All this Pan-panning is turning into a critical pandemonium.

[@PeterWDawson]

+inmoderate But what's the hook?

[@GambeTama]

+inmoderate I find your abuse of puns to be a shameful effort at pandering.

[@GambeTama]

***** ...??? Where's the pan joke... The ability to quote movies is nothing compared to the Pantisocracy that is this potential stream of pun-based wordplay.

[@discolives79ify]

+dadsbigman This thread is not panning out well.

[@PeterWDawson]

***** It's a lot of money that could have gone to helping pandas.

[@kevinthepilgrim]

Pan, the movie that will be remembered because of the out of place Nirvana song.

[@lilminer69er]

yes that was really weird

[@alextromagnetic]

I was hoping it would be Brad and Sarah doing this review. I'm so happy.

[@user-zf3fc9tn5k]

Yay! The Brad And Sarah Show! :D

[@tomato_dragon9585]

Honestly, this movie sounds intriguing, if only because of the visuals. I actually want to witness this shitty insanity for myself now, haha. ...Also, Norm of the North looks like a polished Foodfight. Fucking astounding.

[@lorielovesbooks7315]

I think I might watch this one just to experience it myself.

[@BobbyDrake2000]

What did I take away from this film? PAN: The story of an orphaned boy who has to take down an evil empire with the help of a princess, a rebel, and his hairy sidekick while using a mystical force he barely understands.

[@susanaalmeida593]

Peter Pan with a Bioshock/Fury Road aesthetic actually sounds pretty awesome, I feel like maybe just maybe it could've worked and worked well if it had better...well everything. Damn it, now I want to see a Sci-Fi remake of Peter Pan done right now.

[@talynhastime9343]

They made a sci-fi version of Treasure Island a la Treasure Planet, it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to do a Sci-Fi version of Peter Pan :o

[@madgang201]

there was a syfy miniseries called Neverland. it was SOOOOOOO weird!

[@chrisdossantos2478]

I saw Pan the day it came out in Australia, about 3 weeks ago, and there was more people at Pixels, which had been out for about 3 weeks here, so yeah. My mind was blown when I was this I just can't even explain it

[@burgerkingfootlettuce3751]

Sarah: "I've been known to love terrible movies" Brad: *holds back wanting to say Caligula*

[@jetfire851]

As a Power Rangers fan, I'm very familiar with people putting on fake American accents with varying success (although in that case they're usually Australians or New Zealanders).

[@charlieodyssey7437]

I liked the idea of Sarah being the one to see the really bizarre flops.

[@DoubleAgents]

Yay Sarah Lewis!!!

[@electricgemini965]

This movie was heavily PANed at the box office

[@CCscorsese]

Jack Nicholson's Joker + Daniel Plainview + a dash of Busey = Garrett Hedlund's Hook

[@redactedredacted6656]

I want to build a tine machine just so I can meet college aged Brad.

[@kylebrackman9675]

The best part of the movie was the pirate song just like it was in the 2003 Peter Pan movie along with Hugh Jackman hamming it up as a Captain Jack Sparrow knockoff.

[@kiruppert]

I remember years ago on the Nerdist Podcast, one of the people that Hardwick interviewed was talking about how his dream project would be to make a movie that was the grand epic of how Captain Hook became Captain Hook, except that the fact that he was Captain Hook would turn out to be a twist at the end and Peter Pan wouldn't be involved at all except maybe the very end. I wonder if Pan started out as that movie and then got meddled to shit.

[@susanwhitehall8706]

Garret Hedlund to me sounded like William Shatner playing Nixon.

[@concks982]

why do they sing smells like teen spirit by nirvana in this movie

[@s.bakyhnh1756]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

[@docdave15]

When I saw those Neverland birds I thought they looked like a combination of Kevin from Up and the Giant Claw (with sprinkles of the metal bird from Birdman)

[@Flatworm_Steve]

25:22 Yeah Jupiter Ascending was more entertainingly bad, but it also had Mila Kunis' character getting captured and rescued a couple of times.

[@Morbos1000]

Blitzkrieg Bop, not Blitzkrieg Pop

[@murciadoxial8056]

+Morbos1000 it took me 10 minutes to realize the difference...

[@420Slaterson]

+Will Wytcher Yeah but that's just how Joey Ramone sings. It doesn't sound like they're saying hey ho let's go. It sounds like oy oh les go

[@DeniseFaraday]

I saw Double Toasted's review of Pan and between their review and yours, the reviews were more entertaining than seeing the actual movie. ROFL

[@PeterWDawson]

I wonder if future press releases for Legends of Tomorrow will perhaps try to downplay the fact that some of its EPs were involved in Pan.

[@SmokeymcJoint420]

When I saw the trailer for Pan, I knew that it would laughably terrible.

[@SmokeymcJoint420]

PS. Goosebump looks like a complete pile of steaming, rancid shit.

[@bijanthegr91]

+Smokey McJoint As soon as I heard Rooney Mara was cast as Tiger-lily, I knew it will be bad.

[@bijanthegr91]

+Smokey McJoint I agree, well at least my childhood was fun when I read the books and watched the TV show...Even back then, I wouldn't understand how they could make Goosebumps into a feature length picture.

[@murciadoxial8056]

+Smokey McJoint actually its getting great reviews... WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE WORLD???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Ichigoisfatal221]

+Murcia doxial People are being paid lots of money.

[@heatguyg]

And Freddy got Fingered somehow comes up in a peter pan movie review...I honestly like Freddy got Fingered, for the fact that it is such a train wreck that I can't look away from.

[@bernielopez7429]

i rented this movie and turned it off 30 minutes in

[@ackbarfan5556]

As a World War 2 buff, what was going on guys at the beginning was known as The Blitz. Here is some info if you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz

[@charliswriting]

What I thought was funny was that not only did the ads for this movie on TV look bad, but that the commercials mentioned that advanced tickets were available. Who the hell would buy advanced tickets to see this shit?!

[@kamekadvance]

Has anyone here read the book "Peter and The Starcatchers"?

[@kamekadvance]

Because that's a better origin story for Peter Pan. Ridley Pearson and Dave Barry make a hilarious team.

[@cinebst]

+KamekAdvance Yeah. Wasn't that supposed to get a movie too at some point? Maybe it was transformed into this one. Shame.

[@kamekadvance]

Cinebeast apparently they announced they were going to make a movie in 2012. The guy who scripted The Hunger Games movies started scripting it late 2012. It was expected to get released in 2013 but it never did. Nobody knows what happened because literally nothing has been made public. No announcement of it's cancellation, nothing.

[@bijanthegr91]

+KamekAdvance *making a note to read "Peter and the Starcatchers"* Got it, thank you.

[@kevinthepilgrim]

Sounds good. Think I might give it a try.

[@magnuslord]

The air ships are called zeppelins, and the German attacks against Britain was called the Blitz, Blitzkrieg is lightening war, which is a tactic.

[@baronofbahlingen9662]

And it's ww1

[@thescaredshadow]

You guys gonna see Goosebumps? Cause I heard it's pretty.

[@Kaefer1973]

I haven't watched Flah Gordon yet, but since the creative mind behind "Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen" and "Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together" loved it, it's probably one of the best movies of all time.

[@SomeGuy_GRM]

Just started getting into midnight screenings. Seems I've found my people, I liked Waterworld too!

[@scampthewolfrandomness1355]

You should see the Alvin and the Chipmunks: Road Chip forums on Rotten Tomatoes. Apparently nobody wants to go see that movie.

[@Happaning_tube]

this thing blow, what might have been a great movie as far as production value goes was blown by what I guess was an editor with a hand axe.

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

So they Once Upon A Gleed the Peter Pan story... WTF.

[@ScottCrippen]

41:20 I missed it, but there's a scene in 'Freddy got Fingered' where Tom Green's exiting a plane (I think) and everyone is holding signs to greet him and one of the signs read something like 'When Does This Fucking Movie End?'

[@mastermarkus5307]

+Scott Crippen That sounds legitimately funny for a movie that is literally painful to watch.

[@Atomic_Mousetrap]

there's a "Peter Pan in WWII" comic book called Peter Panzerfaust. This movie sounds a little bit like it ripped it off.

[@tuschman168]

4:06 Yay, Sarah has good taste in Adventure Time episodes!

[@sailoritaly]

I knew that this movie was going to be awful from the very first trailer. Wasn't disappointed when I saw that it got 25% on Rotten Tomatoes

[@wjzav1971]

It took me until Jumanji 2 to forgive Jack Black for Gullivers Travels.

[@tuschman168]

Is it weird that I just searched the place where your car is standing in this video on google street view? As an European I just love to explore the US with Street View and just needed an excuse to do so again. I even tried to find the awning you guys drove to in the Midnight Screenings of After Earth, but no luck. ...Hey, I'm bored OK?

[@ZeoCobra]

I actually liked the movie, yeah the Nirvana scene made me do the WTF am I looking at thing, other than that it was at least entertaining to watch. I enjoyed the choreography of the fight scenes, and the effects do look rather good. The pacing could have been better but I would watch it again. Not the best movie but it has found itself on my shelf next to Hook.

[@HectorGonzalez0642]

I agree with you.

[@talynhastime9343]

Watched this review twice, saw the movie, and now have come back to see this review one more time. This film was a 5/10 for me, a resounding "What?" that just...it was just "What?" for me. What was happening. What the hell was happening. But honestly, I liked the capella Smells Like Teen Spirit, it kind of oddly fits with the fact that they're a bunch of enslaved kids singing a song about angst and jadedness and whatever the hell.

[@dylanwax7756]

I still like Shallow Hal.

[@Ronicalter]

sarah i see you watch adventure time lol. also thanks for telling me my judgement was right about pan

[@dm_tx]

06:41 Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Spike reference made me smile

[@MrE1981]

Lol, because reasons!

[@kurtvanduran7725]

Why is it set in ww2, the Disney film is set during the First World War and its supposed to be a prequel.

[@MrsMojoRisinBlues]

I know why there's a lot of child death in this movie. Neverland is a metaphor for heaven...so...

[@caseyj5637]

+MrsMojoRisinBlues I think that's still just a theory. :P

[@geoffreysorkin5774]

This is a remake of The Believer's Heaven? Suddenly it sounds amazing.

[@yankeesgirl521]

I was wondering when you guys would review this lol

[@AwesomePhantomPig]

I hear it was panned by critics

[@bijanthegr91]

First off: This is my reaction if I ever did see this movie, and please keep this in mind, I didn't watch this I am writing a small scenario of how I would react to this movie: *Sitting in his chair, after seeing the film, with his face covered by his hands, looking ashamed and defeated after seeing the results of a 150 million dollar Peter Pan origins film project, and when someone asked him of his thoughts of this movie, he begins to slowly slide both hands down and then begin shake his head saying: "No..No-No! No! No! No! No! Nope! Nope! Nope!! This movie is a whole lot of fucking NOPE!!" Quoting The Cinema Snob, to express his disapproval of this film and it's direction* The Reason I didn't wanna see this movie was primarily because of using the palest Actress in Hollywood(Feel free to correct this notion), Rooney Mara to play Tiger-Lilly, and from what I know of the story, was a Native American character. I have seen several White-wash roles, and this one was stretching it so fucking far, that Johnny Depp as Tonto in The Lone Ranger was the most appropriate representation of a Native American character, since Kathy Bates as an Eskimo in North! But now from you and Sarah said about the movie, this only strengthen my opinion that I was right to avoid this horrible film, and made me love "Hook" and the animated Peter Pan flicks. Thank you again, Brad & Sarah! :D

[@boooRatt1]

41:25 - May that movie burn in Hell and I'm an amethyst and I even want this!

[@merisahall5310]

Hook sounds like Deutsche Barbosa

[@gweegweezoozoo]

#SmokePanEveryday

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

who thought this wouldn't suck?

[@alextromagnetic]

C'mon Brad, since they are orphans, you could have sang Where Did You Sleep Last Night.

[@KeroKaminaX]

32:49 i think you meant lemmings, not lemurs

[@shortpettite]

I haven't see Pan but am I only one from just watching the trailer think that everyone was just too young for the character? I mean this is going with the entire point of neverland that you do not age so for one I expected Pan to be around 16. Course there is that theory that everyone in neverland is dead that's why they don't age but that's beside the point :P But yeah everyone being so young implies that you do age in neverland. Estimation based on how they appear in cartoon.

[@petewadesays12]

Obligatory "YAY BRAD AND SARAH SHOW" comment

[@GermanLeftist]

At first I wanted to watch it, but after Chris Stuckmann rip it apart, I changed my mind. Maybe you can change it back...

[@alextromagnetic]

But Stuckmann liked Winter's Tale. And not in the way these two liked it.

[@murciadoxial8056]

+Alextromagnetic yeah... but he also loves the village in a serious way so... yeah... it doesnt surprise me, i still respect his opinion, his and brads, the only movie reviewers i truly listen to

[@alextromagnetic]

Murcia doxial It's only these guys that I take seriously really.

[@murciadoxial8056]

Alextromagnetic the reviews of stuckmann of the problem with action and horror and his end of the year top 10 give him a lot of credit tho, the guy knows his shit, but we all make mistakes, like brad not liking scott pilgrim or chris liking the village and avengers 1 too much

[@aromaladyellie]

And to think _Peter Pan_ usually has actually pretty good adaptations... the more I hear this go on the less faith I have in it and the less I want to see this, even though I adore _Peter Pan_. And I thought _Hook_ was considered a "good" movie despite the fact that it totally disregarded the golden rule of _Peter Pan_, the very first line, "All children, except one, grow up." Like I've spent my whole life thinking I'm the only person who doesn't like it.

[@aromaladyellie]

Corey Pack I dunno if I directed it, I'd do a romance, since Wendy's crush on Peter is a sign that she's growing up, which is why Peter doesn't notice, let alone reciprocate (and a large part of why I hated _Hook_, since "love" made him decide to grow up into the very adult he decided not to grow up to avoid becoming, which violates the laws set by the universe in the very first line of the book)- he's never going to know love because love is selfless and Peter is meant to have the selfish, inherent nature of a very young child, despite being physically around eleven or twelve. I think I'd like to have someone from Broadway rather than a pop star do the song, too, but play it over the credits like they did with the last _Hobbit_ movie. Like a child, because a child would be perfect to capture the emotions of Wendy in the movie, a song about her debate and eventual choice. Do an instrumental of it for a scene like the one you mentioned and have it be Wendy's leitmotif. I'd really like to see the clear image of the metaphors in the story and Wendy's choice to grow up or never grow up. And also, have the impact implied in the books that they leave just before Christmas and return in the spring. the Darling family is really just so very intriguing (I really enjoyed Jason Issacs as Mr Darling). I'd also love, just once, to see _Peter Pan_ get the same treatment _Alice in Wonderland_ always gets, which is the dark twist. Something like those _Alice: The Madness Returns_ games. After all, Wendy WAS the only one of her brothers and the Lost Boys to remember Neverland as real, and all the groundwork is there- the female denizens of Neverland do not want Wendy there, but Peter does, and the book implies Neverland is both alive and connected to Peter, so what he wants, so does Neverland. He's selfish, so he never really wanted Wendy to leave him, and Wendy herself is implied to be connected to Neverland due to being the only one to remember anything. There's something about those two books that makes them so hard to adapt. Maybe it's because they're very similar stories about one little girl (based on a real one the author knew) who doesn't want to grow up and become boring, but ultimately is too mature for the nonsenses of childhood, travelling to a mystical dreamland to learn that she's more mature than she's willing to admit.

[@aromaladyellie]

Corey Pack I don't want reciprocated romance at all, because Peter never reciprocated Wendy's feelings- Peter doesn't know how to love. That's why he forgets things and gets bored of things easily and has no problem killing the Lost Boys when they get too old. Peter cannot hold affection for anything because of his immaturity and selfishness. He eventually would have gotten bored of Wendy, since it's not like she's Scheherazade to him, and Wendy would have grown up (Neverland doesn't stop you from growing up- All children, except one, grow up). The thing about Peter is he's unchanging in every possible way- physically, mentally, emotionally, developmentally. Wendy might have feelings for him, but Peter _cannot_ reciprocate. It's how he is. Wendy's love for Peter has to be unrequited. I kinda thing true, unrequited romances are seriously lacking in the movie world, because the person with the unrequited crush either A) realises the person they like is horrible and they fall in love with their best friend who has always been in love with them secretly, or B) they manage to get their feelings returned by impressing the love interest. There's always a happy ending for the romance. I'd like for them to show Wendy's feelings not being returned, and her feeling love's keen sting for the first time, and let her move on, allowing all of that to show just how mature Wendy is and that she already _has_ grown up. (Shrug) But I suppose I'm just jaded to romance in general, since _I've_ never had my feeling reciprocated. I really do like your idea- I'd certainly go see it and likely would own it on DVD, and were I still RPing, incorporate details of it into my Wendy. It's not like I'm _totally_ averse to Peter and Wendy. I really enjoyed the 2003 movie, it's one of my favourite live action movies, and it played the romance rather well. I'd just like to see Wendy dealing with Peter not reciprocating her feelings. I'd also like to see just how much she was affected by what happened to her- any normal person would have some PTSD from repeated murder attempts and getting kidnapped over the span of a few months (or just days, as they play it). Well, I say a few months, but it seems to be years in Neverland. I did figure out some time that time passes differently in Neverland, but I can't remember in what way. Oh, speaking of, I'd also like Tink to be the asshat she actually is to everyone. Even Peter.

[@RozwallabyVideos]

The name Norm of the North just /sounds/ bad

[@tintinismybelgian]

A double feature of this and Titus? Dark. Very dark. A double feature of this and FGF? Very, very wrong.

[@Jiddy12345]

Pan aint shit.

[@captcrais101]

This movie sucks and it was directed by the same guy that did Hannah. WTF

[@gstone8255]

Matilda was worse. Much worse.

[@christhornycroft3686]

Unless a girl is playing Peter Pan, I'm not interested.