Mufasa Humiliated by Sonic The Hedgehog 3 at the boxoffice | A Disney Postmortem

[@MidnightsEdge]

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[@hamdinger7145]

[@Code7Unltd]

>sponsored by a copier program >talks about Hollywood film

[@shrap3d]

I dont recommend this software.... It cuts off last few seconds short.

[@airforcex9412]

You made a video about the Hollywood establishment, Sonic the Hedgehog and Mufasa. Please reference the word “idiot” in a dictionary. Wow. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@SpaceJawa]

"In nature, the lion's only natural predator is the hedgehog."

[@PassengersMusic777]

I heard that in a David Attenborough voice

[@EclipseHedgehog]

Specifically, a red and black one that skates on air shoes and rides a motorcycle while teleporting around....with a laser gun.

[@AcademicJaedon]

@@EclipseHedgehog umbra ericius is the scientific name (shadow the hedgehog in Latin)

[@narnia1233]

@@PassengersMusic777. I heard it in Sonic’s voice. Would be a pretty on brand joke from him I think.

[@Hilversumborn]

@@narnia1233If I was Sega, I would make a lion character the new villain of the next Sonic game just to rub it in.

[@badboy-gn8fu]

if you told me 30yrs ago that a video game character will beat disney at box office I would think you were crazy. well here we are.

[@Klishar122]

Back then, Disney actually made good movies that didn’t talk down to the audience. How times have changed. Thanks for the failure Iger.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@Klishar122 What made Disney so great in the 90's is that they were unstoppable, no one could compete. The only non Disney animated films that came close were Anastasia and Prince of Egypt. In the 2000's however there is too much competition, making it difficult from Disney to take risks. Princess and the Frog underperforming already put 2d animation on thin ice, and Winnie the Pooh 2011 failing was the final straw for 2d.

[@SapphireKnight675]

and DC and Sony

[@chiquita683]

Imagine someone in 1995 telling you Disney would make a movie about a guy being confused about which bathroom to use and it was a tragedy

[@pacmancdi]

Growing up in the late 90s and early 2000s video games felt like such an obscure nerdy thing that only I enjoyed. How things have changed...

[@HorySmokes]

I asked Santa for another Disney failure for Christmas & he didn't disappoint!

[@superomegaprimemk2]

I think Disney is on Santa's naughty list because they have been trying to groom kids!!

[@jimmyboydonald6578]

It's a hollow victory. Paramount badly needed a hit after Transformers One and IF flopping. Disney already has big hits Inside Out 2, Moana 2 and Deadpool and Wolverine. Paramount does have A Better Man coming out which looks both wacky and very interesting.

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

​@@jimmyboydonald6578Transformers One wouldn't have flopped if Paramount didn't sabotage the marketing for it. Ffs the trailers made the film look like something aimed at three year olds.

[@nobillismccaw7450]

Funny.

[@kos2919]

Santa was like "This one is for free! I hate them too!"

[@DarthVader1273]

Who knew listening to fans would lead to being showered with money and success?

[@charlieparks2015]

Shhh Star Wars and Marvel might improve

[@anotterwithaphone3077]

​@charlieparks2015 too late for them. Especially Star Wars. I will never trust that one again until Disney sells it.

[@DarthVader1273]

@@anotterwithaphone3077 You and me both. It’s a dead brand so long as Disney controls it.

[@God-T]

Money we'll spend .. I'm so hyped for Sonic 4 😆😆

[@Kiyoone]

Must be a fluke! It is not possible!!!

[@WarpChaos]

*Sonic to Disney:* "You're too slow!"

[@queazy03]

Sonic kept to faithful to the games. Gave Shadow a gun, a motorcycle, gave Maria a blonde with a blue dress who tragically dies, gave Robotnik a grandfather, the best Super Sonic fight scene, Robotnik had an army of "Omega" like robots from the games, used video game music in the fight scenes AND gave enough scenes to the humans (Tom, Maddie, Stone & especially Robotnik) to keep EVERYONE happy! End credits scenes were great!

[@DarthVoxyn]

They also respected the characters by sticking to the source material.

[@keith8880]

Spoiler They made Metal Sonic into a fodder character at the end though.

[@inkchariot6147]

Those weren't Omega robots, those were G.U.N. drones, the enemies from SA2

[@theinsurance2450]

​@@keith8880 That wasn't the main mental Sonic. The final one which is going to shown in the fourth movie is WAY more powerful.

[@caramelcandys]

@@keith8880it’s probably teasing neo metal sonic for a sonic heroes adaptation tho i personally hope its gonna be chaos (the water lizard i mean)

[@drewbydoo8945]

Wait, Paramount got criticized for LISTENING to the fans by others in the film industry? So they just see us as dollar signs instead of loyal fans who are paying their bills? Wow...

[@FracturedO1]

There were were articles and twiiter rants from the industry at the time. They said the quiet part out loud with no shame. Andre is correct to say that there are different philosophies at play, because one shows respect the other doesn't. It doesn't matter if the motivation for showing that respect is profit rather than a love for the stories.

[@SilverSonic2099]

You are just now finding this out? Welcome to the real world my friend… 😔

[@rodrigogirao8344]

Obeying the audience means disobeying Black Rock.

[@darkroninmarvel]

It also helps that the director of the Sonic movies and the franchise share a history;he started his career working with the CGI cutscenes of the Shadow the hedgehog videogame

[@speedblast714]

No fucking way full circle lol

[@RealVersuchstier]

That CGI was awesome for that time.

[@handsomedubbledee]

Jeff Fowler? Wow. You know what? I can believe it. The level of detail he puts in these movies is to be studied. He knew the material to a tee. You gotta respect him. He listened to the fans and he is being rewarded for it.

[@Hedgie3]

​@@handsomedubbledee Jeff Fowler also has Shadow as his #1 favorite Sonic character, so of course he was going to try to make sure that SEGA's Ultimate Lifeform hedgehog wouldn't be done wrongly. I haven't watched Sonic 3 yet but I'm still super hyped for when my first and second theater visits to see that movie will happen.

[@liamphibia]

Bingo! Jeff Fowler's come a long way.

[@ladyrendarkstrider2398]

Sonic left one rightfully disappointing film in the dust with his speed, lmao.

[@DecKrash]

Saw Sonic 3. Loved it, especially Jim Carrey playing off himself as Robotnik and his grandfather. I couldn't care less for the live action versions of Disney animated movies, especially this prequel to The Lion King that no one asked for. And yes, Disney really needs to start listening to its audiences. If they'd done this from the beginning, they wouldn't have made such a huge mess of Star Wars.

[@kotenox]

Pluss is a nice acting feat to watch

[@herrikudo]

I mean the movie was MASSIVELY unfocused, barely acknowledged the knuckles show and didnt have Wade in the film for more than a minute... if anything it assassinated his character arc from the show and made him a stupid gag character again. It spent FAR too much time on Carey, didnt develop tails as a character AGAIN, the wachowski's were barely in it, the master emerald didnt work the way it should have.... idk man it wasnt that good. It didnt suck by any stretch, but compared to the first one it fell on its face.

[@DecKrash]

​@@herrikudoI didn't feel that it was unfocused; Shadow's story told in flashbacks was something that I felt was done very well, and rather gave definition through nonlinear storytelling., but I do agree that they should have built up knuckles as a character a little bit, as for tails, he's simply the brains of the group, and I've never really seen much done with him. As for the human element in the movies concerning Sonic's family, from what I've seen, a lot of people actually liked the fact that they downplayed the humans outside of Robotnik. But they gave enough of an emotional punch where it mattered.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Honestly, I wasn't a fan of how Gerald Robotnik was portrayed. Too goofy and farcical to take his revenge plot seriously.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

​@@herrikudoThe Knuckles show was trash, so there was hardly anything to acknowledge. Gerald Robotnik was made into a joke character, getting Carrey to play him as well was a mistake. Agreed on Tails' lack of development as well. It's just an okay kids movie at best, but not "everything fans wanted" like everyone is cheering on about.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Sonic was just concerned with being good. Mufasa is trying so hard to beat one of the greatest animated films by arguing that it being hand-drawn, 90s Disney flare made it immature and these "close to life" action movies are needed to make the stories "real". Disney wasn't proving animation was real of anything but being a REAL and amazing tool for storytelling whoch is why he went with animation to begin with. Too many in Disney now think animation is immature and if they 'like' animation, they always try to censor and stop real innovation and style experiments, explaining why they're stupid Steven Universe shit style is leaking into the CGI sphere, as that's the industry approved style because it's "safe and progressive". Art doesn't evolve by preventing people from creating it and limiting HOW they make it and the subject of it. This is why Disney has been failing recently. They want art to be a vehicle for politics and politics only and as result, all they can make for a majority is trash because they've strangled art for narcissistic reasons. Sonic is just pure fun. At the end of the day that's what the series was created for, on top of wanting to innovative the technology capabilities at the time. It's fun and it embraced that. Something that is aware of it just being plain fun will get more respect from me than something that PRETENDS to be greater than it is, all for the sake of vanity.

[@tangymilk]

So many words. You’re really smart.

[@RanMouri82]

It's current, sub-par Disney competing with earlier, good Disney.

[@awoooga5857]

Why do people constantly bring up steven universe like it was the first to do that artstyle.

[@FallicIdol]

Exactly. Sonic makers were like “Lets make a fun movie that that fans will love!”

[@JoesGeekShow]

Paramount: You see, listening to respecting, and building trust with your audience is the key to success. Disney: Shocked Pikachu meme.

[@TroysMilitaryHistory]

Unfortunately, Paramount hasn't listened in regards to Star Trek

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

Yet they sabotaged Transfomers One with terrible marketing and trailers that made it look like it was for toddlers.

[@rhedosaurus2251]

​@@Drums_of_Liberation Not only that, but they also allowed Michael Bay to cripple Transformers as a movie franchise in the first place. Even without the bad marketing, the stench of Bayformers was long lingering.

[@patrickrobinsob1464]

@@Drums_of_Liberationdon’t forget Bumblebee.

[@AAlex-wg8ml]

It's probably more that the team in Paramount that works on Sonic listens Rather than the entirety of Paramount 😅

[@T1000skynetforever]

“Are fans too entitled” Hello! Ever heard of ‘The customer is always right’?

[@KopperNeoman]

In matters of taste, the customer is always right. So if we're too entitled, that's our taste. Best start listening.

[@anotterwithaphone3077]

Movies are only about that kind of taste. Thus, it is impossible for the customers to be in the wrong on movies. We decide, not the critics, what is a success and what fails.

[@T1000skynetforever]

@ Exactly. Disney relied on the critics too much and got away with pushing an agenda over entertainment for too long. Now they’re finally paying the piper and getting shelved by other entertainment industries like Dreamworks, Sony and Angel Studios

[@kostasismename9493]

Did they actually say that? we're literally the ones watching their movies (Less people watching the new Lion King movie, of course)

[@gabegu5102]

If I’m spending my money then… yes I’m entitled

[@robvegas9354]

Full credit to the team bringing the Sonic movies out. They listened to the fans, got amazing film stars in the movies, packed the shows full of fun adventures and entertainment. Great stuff!!!

[@willpower8061]

Mufasa was DOA from jump. These producers need to stop sniffing each others farts amd listen to customers.

[@obelic71]

how dare you? listening to paying customers, the sort of customers they hate because they are racists and bigots😉

[@RanMouri82]

There was no need for Mufasa. They tried to manufacture a backstory nobody needed or wanted.

[@michaeldietz2648]

lol Mufasa did over 122 million Friday and Saturday alone how is that DOA ??? Sonic 3 is sitting at 63 million. Now granted we don’t have the global numbers of what Sonic did but with the information we have as of right now Mufasa made more.

[@Xtreme24-du1yr]

@@michaeldietz2648 it only made 63 million internationationally. Globally Sonic 3 did better than Mufasa

[@willpower8061]

@@michaeldietz2648 $122 million is shit, the flix cost 200 million to make. I'm sure you've heard, one must make at least 2x the cost to be successful these days.

[@LaurentCourtin]

If listening to the audience is soooooo bad, then why the heck do Hollywood studios keep on organizing test screenings?

[@guyatwork5527]

What's bad for them is showing signs that the audience has the power.

[@Rhamsody]

Huh! Good point!

[@TevyaSmolka]

I am so happy sonic the hedgehog 3 is a massive success because as a shadow the hedgehog fan that movie was really amazing and tons of fun.

[@jacobrivera1721]

I glad it was successful that these movie need entertainment not woke crap

[@TevyaSmolka]

@ I am glad too.

[@keatonkuuuun]

And voiced by the wholesome Keanu jsut made it that much better. And the fact he'll be coming back is just fantastic.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@ indeed

[@kspoons3479]

It’s not just that Paramount listened to fans, they also produced 3 movies that are FUN to watch for most age groups. Fun is the other key element here.

[@gushernandez25]

That's why the "live action" version of Lion King is struggling. Its not fun, the story is watered down in terms of creativity.

[@pacmancdi]

The awesome Sonic saturday morning TV series from the mid 90s was cancelled after Disney purchased ABC. This is some great karma 😂

[@DarthVoxyn]

I never knew that! I only heard it was because of the Power Rangers that Sonic cartoon was cancelled.

[@mechalover1235]

Was that Sonic underground or the adventures of Sonic either way they need to come back with a reboot

[@pacmancdi]

@@DarthVoxyn according to an interview with the head writer of the second season Ben Hurst there were multiple reasons for the cancellation. Competition from Power Rangers, being repeatedly preempted for sports in certain parts of the country and the fact that the new people in charge of ABC children's programming after the Disney buyout simply didn't like the show. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqWYdoV_qbBmea8feature=shared

[@pacmancdi]

@@mechalover1235 No Sonic the hedgehog SatAM. Although I think underground is pretty good as well.

[@MichaelAarons1701]

ABC wasn’t bought by Disney until 1996 which was 2 years after SatAM was cancelled in 1994.

[@bobtom1495]

They could have taken the money for Mufasa, cut it in half, remake Lion King 2 Simba's Pride and slapped it on to Disney+ and no one would bat an eye....

[@mkocel]

They could have just re-released the original again and would have still made millions. And it wouldn't have cost them a thing!

[@patrickrobinsob1464]

A Mufasa movie isn’t a BAD idea, but the problem was they had it connected to the remake. If it had been connected to the original more people would have been open to it.

[@mintwantsacookieanimations3473]

one's a lazy cash grab, the other has actual passion put into it

[@Hedgie3]

I couldn't agree more.

[@GrantStraks]

Disney? Lazy? Nooooo /s

[@markskrzyniarz3074]

Sonic 3 is a sequel that was wanted by fans, and first reactions gave it high praise - I saw it in theaters yesterday and I can safely say it was AMAZING! Mufasa is a prequel no one asked for with middling first reactions - I'm not even going to bother hatewatching it on pirated media. Not much more need be said.

[@mkocel]

even the pirates be like, "arrrg, that be trash mates, dont bother haulin it up." LOL

[@LoneSilverW0lf]

Eh, throw it on the bonfire with the rest of them!

[@setlik3gaming80]

Keep your kids far, far away from Disney.

[@tiggerpup_nz]

My daughter loves Disney. No one else has given fantasy tales of princesses and princes, like Disney. And just because they are currently lost, doesn’t mean I should keep her away from their hits. Disney will find its way back

[@racingraptor4758]

​@@tiggerpup_nzthey will find their way when they get rid of PDF they keep in their company. For now I would keep my kids as far as possible from them unles showing them pirated classics .

[@vigilantowl5312]

I bought my daughters all the original blu-ray princess movies. That's all I needed from Disney.

[@A88mph]

It has taken so long for the "normies" to be burned out by these films, but at least it seems to finally be happening.

[@nevergonnabesilent]

@6:01 - "this weekend was not just a clash of box office movies, but philosophies"....excellent point

[@crazyman8472]

[to Carver before he is kiled by the sea-vac] James Bond: You forgot the first rule of mass media, Elliot! GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT! 😎 -from “Tomorrow Never Dies” (1997)

[@Klishar122]

Great scene. And too true, as today’s media have proven.

[@SpaceJawa]

That movie was ahead of its time.

[@joshslater2426]

Tomorrow Never Dies will always be a great Bond film, and it’s amazing how well it depicts foolish media controllers.

[@KamenRider1]

Carver was a BORING villain because he didn't get the DRILL that you never SCREW with Bond! 😂

[@TheAubrey777]

Mufasa's issue is rather its lack of liveliness so to speak. You can't emote animals realistically through CGI without some "cartoon tampering". The only successful cgi with believable emoting in Cinema was first Narnia movie imho, where ASLAN was formidable, regal, and believable.

[@KopperNeoman]

It helps that Aslan isn't actually a lion, but rather a creator God equal to our own who chooses to appear as one. He and his Creations can afford to emote in anthropomorphised ways.

[@F0re5tMan]

I have not yet seen Sonic 3, but I want to. Saw the first two in theaters, and I WILL see this one. Also, I wish the instead of live action remakes, Disney instead followed the premise of Christopher Robin, and made the project more of a sequel to the original work. I admit, there's a certain appeal of wanting to see what iconic Disney characters (like Aladdin, Hercules, Genie, Mickey Mouse, Mufasa, Buzz Lightyear, and more) would look like if they existed in our world (albeit done right, to make them look realistic while sill maintaining their iconic design).

[@mechalover1235]

When you go, stay for BOTH end credits. Not just the mid end credits

[@KopperNeoman]

@@mechalover1235 Thank you for the hot tip.

[@F0re5tMan]

@@mechalover1235 Ok.

[@lemond2007]

I actually did not expect Mufasa to underperform. Good stuff!

[@brianh3253]

Me either. I’m surprised.

[@tallaster-g7s]

I did.

[@izzatsamad6087]

This movie should have been released a month later instead

[@tallaster-g7s]

@@izzatsamad6087 That would not have matered. There was no demand for it at all.

[@ashkirby8896]

I did, and I’m glad my expectations came true!😄

[@ViperChief117]

Pretty easy to tell why one succeeded where the other did not? It’s not rocket science.

[@nicholasfruin1]

I went to see Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and my theater was packed. When that was over I walked past the theater showing the Lion King and I snuck in just out of curiosity to see how many people were in there. I was not surprised at all to see only a few people at most in there watching it.

[@fitnessabcvideo]

Also, what no one has said, this is Jim Carrey's trilogy of being back on form, and it was great to get his 90s form all over again, and for that I'm very grateful, and that a whole new generation of kids were introduced to Jim and see his genius on screen.

[@MrKrzys01]

I'm actually surprised they didn't make Mufasa gay.

[@FirebirdPhoenix87]

Shhhh. Don't give them ideas.

[@drockman92]

Fandom beat them to it with Scar.

[@jagsdomain203]

So tired of them being called live action they're just animated they look different than a cartoon format it's 100% CGI

[@eldenr-y9c]

Sonic character design is more appealing for kids and for adults, trailer was very energetic and appealing while mufasa was like boring af no emotions at all

[@WarioSaysSo]

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 makes sence. Its not needing much inteligence to be great. A lot of fast-paced action, some humor, some Sonic easter-eggs = CASH. Oh and respect its source! NO ONE wanted a Mufasa CGI movie. Especally since James Earl Jones (R.I.P) is gone, there is just no sell in it and people don't trust Disney to make justice to any prequels.

[@keithmichael112]

They didn't cry and whine when people hated the original design, they just fixed it. And now they are being rewarded for listening

[@SpaceJawa]

The director of Sonic 3 originally worked on the Sonic games, he knows Sonic - and more importantly, he knows Shadow, probably the biggest draw of Sonic 3 - and what makes it all tick.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@keithmichael112 The one redesigned him was Tyson Hesse, who worked on the Sonic comics.

[@herrikudo]

Can we PLEASE get some criticism for the massive disappointment i just watched???? The fuck people compared to the first one this movie didnt even come close. Unfocused, ignoring the knuckles show and the arcs in it, assassinating wade's character development from knuckles in the 60 seconds he was in the movie.... can we please criticize what we enjoy? It didnt suck by any stretch but that was not good enough.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@herrikudo I don’t think the knuckles show was well received??

[@thesaltyweeb]

Ahem... SONIC HE CAN REALLY MOVE!!! SONIC HE'S GOT AN ATITUUUUUUUUDE!!! SONIC HE'S THE FASTEST THING ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!

[@pacmancdi]

I love the new movies but that show will never be topped. I hope they bring Sally and the other freedom fighters back into future games and movies.

[@soniquefus]

Hello fellow SatAM fans

[@pacmancdi]

@@soniquefus hi Allison. I remember you from the saturday morning Sonic forums back in the day.

[@soniquefus]

@pacmancdi one l in the name. Alison. But that's cool... I barely remember those days

[@DarthVoxyn]

I WISH!

[@rodemus18]

You left out the older fans that grew up with sonic and played the games and watched the shows

[@joop-from-hedel-shadow]

the fact that Sonic 3 has the flower field scene from a game that just released 2 months ago and mufasa completely forgets that the loin guard exists shows how different the people are who made the movie and how much the Sonic movie team cares about the fans and how much Disney cares about the big people in suits

[@EdwardandJessicaMiller]

According to Jeremy Jahns, the reason Scar turned evil was because he was raised by the other male lions, while Mufasa was raised by the lionesses.

[@fnaffoxy1987]

That's so stupid and also goes against what lions are actually like to boot. There are generally only 1 or 2 male lions in a Pride to begin with and they keep it that way.

[@elliaselliyasa3885]

😂😂😂

[@biostemm]

Can they even call it "live action" anymore?

[@SeanWheeler100]

Spongebob is more live-action than The Lion King.

[@Rasengan9000ttt]

As a Sonic fan and a fan of the game this movie adapted… this makes me so happy! For things they couldn’t adapted there are easter eggs and jokes that reference parts of the game like Knuckles going up against ghosts and Shadow fighting a Godzilla like monster that was sadly cut but was referenced via Shadow watching a Japanese Kaiju movie. This movie’s series is the David and Goliath story of cinema.

[@blakepace]

Not gonna see Mufasa, nope. 😂❤My family of three went to a Sonic 3 Fan Event on Wednesday and LOVED IT! My 16 year old son and I intend to see it together again at least two more times. And no doubt were gonna get the disc when it comes out. Sonic popcorn bucket is sitting on my desk.❤😂😊

[@jamesstewart8376]

Lion King 2 : Simba’s son gets nabbed by a traveling circus and with the help of a wild girl, he rallies his kingdom to rescue his son held by a truly evil Circus showman. Along the way Simba’s son befriend’s the captive circus animals and accepts them despite their lack of wildness.

[@MercuryAlphaInc]

I went to see Sonic. I've never been a hardcore Sonic fan, just knew about things in passing, along with the memes, and of course "Shadow the Edgehog" But MAN, did that movie deliver. If I was a hardcore fan, I would have probably exploded with the amount of references (and not just blatantly showing things and going "THIS IS A REFERENCE, LIKE IT!", no things that only fans would pick up on or even just gamers, one such thing being "blowing on things to make them work") and the acting was immensely entertaining and fun to watch. Hell, I knew of the song "Live and Learn" because of the "fans will riot if this isn't in the movie" and when that fucking riff started up at a particular scene... Goddamn. Forreal. Goddamn. Goosebumps all over, and just... The choreography! The visuals, it all just fucking works so beautifully! Sonic *deserves* this win immensely and I'm looking forward to what Sonic 4 is going to bring.

[@T1000skynetforever]

Disney has a multi billion dollar worth with an army’s worth of staff and they can’t think of any new original stories?

[@acarter9277]

Frankly I want to watch Mufasa but it won't be at the theater. No big deal to me if it flops, I had a feeling it would. The reason it failed is because: 1. It had to compete with a franchise that people are more crazy about. 2. People who prefer more violence or action find Mufasa too boring like a nature documentary. 3. A lot of people don't like prequels/backstories, especially to a character that everyone knows died halfway into the original movie. (Yet, the Star Wars prequels did good) 4. People are too burned from the soulless Lion King remake to give Mufasa a chance. 5. Disney changed the first story written about Mufasa and Taka. 6. People are tired of CGI being called 'live action' when practically nothing in it is real stuff. They miss the talent, effort and color pop of 2D animation.

[@HeyDrGamer]

Or if they were like me, a 80-90s kid now parent who still went for sonic, tails, knuckles and of course Jim Carrey …you went too see Sonic 😂

[@stanley13579]

If a studio is putting out an "adaption" or "extension" of someone else's successful brand, property, or work (of which Sonic and Lion King are both one of those things), they have an obligation to the FANS who made those works successful. If they treat those fans with respect, and reward their loyalty (which Paramount did), they will win. If they spit at the feet of the fans (which Disney routinely does), they will lose.

[@emanueljackson1728]

I saw Sonic 3 opening night and it deserves all the success it's getting. I'm not too interested in a Mufasa prequel especially if I have to chose between it and a Sonic movie.

[@frankbrislin4378]

Mufasa got TRAMPLED. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Thatoneguythataintfunny]

Why did I think that said "Disney humiliated Sega"? I was getting ready for the glaze of the century

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

After learning a certain spoiler...I'm gonna save my money to watch Sonic 3 in theaters in January.

[@LockeRobsta]

*This would have been unthinkable a decade ago.* A Disney flagship film getting outperformed by some Paramount video game movie?? Are you serious? Not to take away form Paramount's efforts, they did almost EVERYTHING right with Sonic, but Disney have done the exact opposite - Its incredible to watch. Their nosedive has been infinitely more entertaining to watch that any of their shit films.

[@shanerooney7288]

I think the first "Ugly Sonic" was a masterful psyop. It reminds me of how producer Dave Filoni handled Asoka in StarWars Clone Wars animated series. It boils down to this: You KNOW everyone is going to hate the movie/character. You control WHAT they hate about the movie/character. And once the hatred is linked to a specific characteristic, you can remove that characteristic.

[@akumaking1]

Make Disney go bankrupt!

[@jax3845]

The fall of Disney is already ongoing so it's only a matter of time

[@martinalbert29]

To be fair, Disney is the only movie company to clear $3Billion in world wide box office sales this year.

[@zyro7756]

Paramount listened and now they’re swimming in praise and money from a successful trilogy, with them already teasing a 4th movie. If you saw the post credit scene then you know

[@sreppocdrawde9749]

Does Mufasa have the nepotism of JayZ and Beyonce with a child with a trademarked name of Blue Ivy. Isn't she the same age as some other girl that filed charges of something. I'm so bored and angry right now.

[@natemiller6854]

Saw Sonic 3 with my sons (13, 11, 7), as we had been anxiously awaiting it since Sonic 2. It did not disappoint. We all loved it. Of the 30 releases I've seen in 2024 so far, Sonic 3 currently sits in the top spot for me (not objectively, but as far as favorite movie/experience goes/watchability).

[@steveb9713]

The realistic animals don’t translate the animated emotions like the sonic characters which are much more fun

[@LukeTheGhostKiller]

2023: Barbenheimer 💖💥 2024: Mufasonic 🦁🦔

[@Prence]

If there is something Disney’s good at and that’s giving its customers something they didn’t ask for. No one even asked for this, and yet Disney thought this would be what they wanted to serve to everyone.

[@inkchariot6147]

Sonic: Talk about low budget movies!

[@burntscribe7919]

Took my youngest son to see Sonic 3 and we both loved it. The end credit scene had him jumping out of his seat, and he didn't shut up about it all the way home.

[@funfoxstudios8688]

The only thing that made me remember Mufasa exist was the preview that played while I was watching the 3rd Sonic movie

[@BalrogUdun]

3:00 Video starts

[@OceanbornAngel]

I am so glad that Andre agrees with me that The Black Cauldron should be a live action movie. P.s. Yay...white lions as the villains? Disney really really hates this whole Kimba the white Lion rip off accusation huh?

[@psibernight2177]

You couldn't pay me to see Mufasa. I made sure to see Sonic this passed weekend I loved it.

[@jaydenlenzy3487]

One of the best decisions you ever made in your life soldier.

[@DarthVoxyn]

Mufasa: clears throat, the Circle of Life! Scar: Be Prepared! Mufasa: for what? Sonic: gotta go fast!

[@Voxrar]

I watched Sonic 3. As a fan of the franchise I felt pandered to in the best way possible. So much fan service and nods to those who knew them while keeping a more consistent pace than the previous movie. Turns out when you listen to your audience you can get good feedback from them.

[@soniquefus]

What a lot of people tend to forget is it wasn't just Sonic fans that hated the original design, it was literally everyone. Several media outlets and even the original Sonic creators said it was terrifying. They HAD to change it because the reputation of the movie had been damaged too severely by that point

[@GuadalupePicasso]

Based on publicly available numbers, Mufasa has currently earned roughly double at the box office than Sonic 3.

[@Wien1938]

I took my nieces to see StH 3 and they had a great time. As we were going in, there were a lot of families coming out of the Mustafa film and the kids sounded like they enjoyed it.

[@Windstorm7x7-wl8ko]

LOL. I have the first Sonic movie in my library. Guess what I don't have, and never will?

[@Jeff-cn9up]

I am proud to say I have never seen a Disney live-action remake, and I never will.

[@DramaticCrossroad]

Can almost recommend Cinderella, because it was not struck by the curse of "retold for modern audiences".

[@amandaslough125]

Cinderella and Malificent were good. Jungle Book tackles whatever differences in the story it's worth existing. The rest...

[@originalgreatdouchebag2866]

if Disney remade the black caldron they would focus Soley on the black part and make it about race

[@DarlinAkaDarlene]

And gender.

[@santinodewreede3955]

I heard multiple rumors Disney thought they were gonna launch a Lion King-verse after the LARM. lol.

[@matheuslocasso7893]

I’m not proud to admit that I went to see Lion king live action on the theater when it came out, yearning to feel what I felt watching the animated one, but it felt hollow and soulless. I felt so tricked that I refused to watch every other live action remake that came out of Disney.

[@leemastro9904]

I would love to see Black Cauldron, in live action, especially if it was more like the books, than the cartoon.

[@GASlenderman80085]

You forgetting there are parents who grew up playing the game Sonic Adventure 2 that came out more than 20 years ago in which the movie is inspired on as well, it has star power and immense amount nostalgia

[@MurakamiTenshi]

The primary reason why Sonic's redesign was celebrated is because... to be a sonic fan is to be part of a 30+ year old fandom that transcends "current year" and "modern day". There is no politics, only Sonic. And now here we are, on movie #3 and melting over our favorite edgehog showing up!

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

2 films that would've been amazing in live action and well deserved were Atlantis and Treasure Planet

[@Falcon5698]

I saw sonic 3 on friday. It's a good time movie, but not sure it's as good as some are hyping it up to be. Im a huge sonic fan so im not a hater, but maybe had too high of expectations from the it being hyped up too much. It's pretty focused on the small kid demographic with enuff for us older fans to enjoy. It has the best pacing of the trilogy and the battles are very good eye candy. Funny enough i was in the waiting area and a father came out of a showing of mufasa, he was like that movie is awful haha.

[@frankbrislin4378]

Sonic is running RINGS around Mufasa.

[@SapphireKnight675]

I went to the Sonic movies for Sonic, but yeah, it was already no contest, one went above and beyond to adapt a beloved story, the other gave a backstory to two characters that were destined to meet horrendous fates

[@mechajay3358]

Sonic has earned its success by actually caring about entertaining the audience while Disney did the exact opposite.

[@MortimurGrimm]

My wife and I will be seeing Sonic 3 tomorrow. The first two films were entertaining and earned our trust. I look forward to supporting them again. Disney, not so much. They can rot for all I care.

[@BossMan-yu1og]

Jim Carrey said he was retiring after Sonic 2 unless he was handed a "banger script." Needless to say, he followed through on his promise. Something, Disney has proven incapable of doing.

[@Cyber_Horse_Studios87]

If Mufasa had been animated in the originals 2D style… it may have actually stood a chance. I honestly think the live action animation killed any hope of it making any impact. Weather it was a good movie or not. Plus, just like iron man and speed racer, they released it at the worst possible time because a much more anticipated movie was coming out at the same time. (Also I love that your sponsor was WinX DVD ripper! I have it and use it all the time! Have been for years!)

[@pokebattery4083]

Shadow: The ultimate life form Mufasa: The ultimate flop

[@LordMetalSonic1987]

Well, Mufasa was a prequel barely anyone asked for. On the other hand, Sonic 3 was loosely based on one of the most beloved video games in the entire franchise that ISN'T one of the classic Sega Genesis games.

[@voice552]

This is why the internet matters. Without it, Sonic would have bombed and Indiana Jones would have been replaced with a woman, alongside James Bond. I believe our KZbinrs played the biggest part in it. Merry Christmas Andre and Tom!!

[@BookOfWorms]

The funniest part is that they went for the same exact movie clash as birds of prey, and got the very same results. Maybe if DC and Marvel were ever to share info, they might have known that before butting heads with the Blue Blur

[@jkasiron2275]

I knew I wasn't ever going to see Mufasa when I saw the trailer. I have zero confidence that Disney writers have the skill necessary to tell such a story.

[@thepanda1044]

Bob Iger: *I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG!!*

[@broccolinyu911]

Let's be real. Did anybody know ANYONE who was asking for a spin-off about Mufasa based on the most dry and copy-paste live action disney adaptation to date? Serious question. anybody at all?

[@SonicNinja101]

I went to see Sonic 3 the first day it was showing and at the first showing as well. Loved every second of it, even my brother, who isn't a Sonic fan like me, ended up enjoying the movie more than he thought he would. I even brought out our sisters as an early birthday present to one of them, and she loved it while the other enjoyed it as well.

[@ewanski0848]

The difference between giving the people what they want and trying to tell them what to want.