Midwest Industries Extended M-Lok 14" Hand Guard for the Ruger PC Carbine

[@seejaylebroke461]

Will this work on a backpacker?

[@yrsued]

Depends on what do you mean by "Backpacker"

[@lando1085]

Magpul ?

[@godisgood9720]

Very handsome tactical foregrip, nice upgrade sir.

[@yrsued]

It is a VERY nice and rugged upgrade!!

[@chrissewell1608]

Simple and easy, for-stock upgrade. I like the fact you can keep you iron sights. Now you can add a light, sling and bipod. (I love the Ruger, ghost ring sights. But, the Delta point sight looks sweet too!) Midwest Industries, also makes a similar model rail for the Ruger 10/22 & Charger pistols. Looking forward to your, in the field, testing and opinions. Thanks Yamil.

[@yrsued]

We did a quick indoors shoot with it, I need to take it up to Gunsite and ding steel at 25 yards!!

[@zexnynex777]

@@chrissewell1608 Im trying to put irons on MI railed charger... Would it be the same?

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

What size and style tool did you use to remove that front sight so easily? I can’t even break the nuts loose.

[@yrsued]

Brownells Magna Tip Torx Kit!! Apply heat to break the Thread Locker down!

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

@@yrsued I took your advice and used a heat/shrink gun and it worked like butter. It broke them both loose. I found out the two screws are star not Alan wrenches like everything else. I happen to have a set and was able to finish the rifle before heading to the range.😎🇺🇸

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

Ruger used LokTite on everything on this rifle that I had to take apart. So I used a dab on all screws.

[@yrsued]

@@johnnybbgunner2136 That is why I said on my post that I used a Brownells Torx set, something with good leverage!!

[@yrsued]

@@johnnybbgunner2136 NONE of my screws had thread locker on them, but I got my gun so early that I'm no surprised if my gun was very early production.

[@mnrodriguez]

What is the torque for the sights?

[@yrsued]

Honestly, I don't know!!

[@chinomendoza34]

What is the optic mount used for the Delta point? Been looking at the tandemkross mount, I want to be able to cowitness if needed

[@yrsued]

There are two good ones, one from Skinner Sights (This one) and one from EGW (Evolution Gun Works). They both allow Co Witness, they are that low to the bore. I must admit, the Skinner Sights website is very hard to navigate, LMK if you need help finding it, I will try to find it for you.

[@chinomendoza34]

@@yrsued are there limits to which type of rmr I can use with this plate? I must admin I am not completely knowledgeable on this, I would want to use something similar to the delta point you have but within my price range

[@yrsued]

@@chinomendoza34 This will fit whatever Red Dot fits on the Leupold Deltapoint Pattern, I honestly don't know what other red dots fit that pattern.

[@totljag1]

What compensator is on this rifle ?

[@yrsued]

That is the old TACCOM comp, this was the VERY simple one they made a couple of years ago. They now make a fancier one. I haven't tried their new one, I like this one!! I have one on the PC Carbine and one on my Sub 2000. I do have a spare one, just for a rainy day!! You never know when I will need it!!

[@totljag1]

@@yrsued thanks 🙏

[@totljag1]

@@yrsued thanks 🙏

[@yrsued]

@@totljag1 My pleasure!!

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

Do I need to use LokTite?

[@yrsued]

To fasten the Handguard to the barrel? I doubt it. They didn't include it in the kit, so I doubt it will come off, but I will tell you when I shoot it enough to tell.

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

@@yrsued I used some on the charging handle only. Thanks.

[@yrsued]

@@johnnybbgunner2136 OK, that's different, this video is about the Handguard, if you see the video I did on the Bolt Handle, I used Vibra Tite Red, which can be installed and removed up to 5 times before having to apply it again!!

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

@@yrsued Looks like I need to remove the front iron sight to be able to fit the 14” hand guard. Having a hard time removing front sight screws.

[@yrsued]

@@johnnybbgunner2136 Do you "REALLY" have to?? I removed the Front Sight is because the Muzzle Brake!! Do you have a Muzzle Brake on?? I would try a heat gun in order remove the front sight screws.

[@KendrasEdge757]

Like this one better Yamil! MI makes some of the best rails out there.

[@yrsued]

For tactical training and self/home defense, yes, this one is sturdier, for competition, this one is too heavy!! I don't do competition anymore, this thing is about to get heavier soon!! I got one more thing that will make it much heavier!!

[@KendrasEdge757]

@@yrsued “one more thing”?? I’d toss on a light for sure, hand stop for certain, but that’s me. Lights are automatic on everything.

[@yrsued]

@@KendrasEdge757 That is the beauty of MLOK, you can add anything you want to it!! The hand stop is not a must for me, my arms are not long enough to get in front of the muzzle, but the light, YUP, it's a must!!

[@KendrasEdge757]

@@yrsued yeah definitely a must with the light. If it’s not strictly a range toy and will be used in home defense/defense of self and others, than a light is at the top of the list of needed items for the firearm. I don’t shoot competition so everything is self/home defense, hunting, or just a range toy to me. The hand stop or angled for grip, can definitely help in shooting. It helps to pull the rifle into your shoulder tremendously which, as you know, helps with recoil mitigation and therefore allowing faster followup shots and you can shoot much faster and more accurately that way. Although one would think 9mm doesn’t have any recoil, but it has a lot more than you’d think. Specifically when trying to shoot accurately, fast, and flat!

[@yrsued]

@@KendrasEdge757 Agreed, I know PCC became popular in the shooting sports, but I was already out when they became popular, I like this setup and the upcoming kit will make it even cooler!!

[@zexnynex777]

You wont need to take off the muzzle device to do any of it? Even with the Charger? Ive got a Cherry Bomb Rocksetted on there and dont even want to think about removing it 😂

[@yrsued]

We looked at it and no, you don't have to remove the brake at all, just the front sight.

[@zexnynex777]

@@yrsued thanks man. I dont like how you have to torque that thing on so i was generous with the rockset, unfortunately. Thanks for the info, im really starting to like the MI rail. Also, do you know if the MI rails with pic rail section on top creates an even plane for standard height mbuis? I wasnt sure if the front rail would be high enough.

[@yrsued]

@@zexnynex777 I'm setup to use the factory Front Sight, and I have a Rear Sight on the Deltapoint Pro, so I'm good!!

[@zexnynex777]

@@yrsued Sounds like everything lines up just fine with the factory barrel sight, that rail height with added pic rail is prob fine for my Charger. Thanks buddy

[@yrsued]

@@zexnynex777 My pleasure

[@ohcrap3263]

I got the 12 inch, no front sight issues

[@yrsued]

Nope, not with the 12". Do you have a comp on yours too? The Comp DOES make a HUGE difference!!

[@ohcrap3263]

@@yrsued Yes, I installed the Mcarbo stabilizer and all their upgrades, buffer, pins etc. but not the trigger yet

[@yrsued]

@@ohcrap3263 I'm good with my Kit now!! handguard and CROM Chassis

[@ohcrap3263]

@@yrsued I am still running the stock chassis. I like it for now but I eventually want a good pistol grip .

[@yrsued]

@@ohcrap3263 There's a lot of choices for that, I went with the CROM Aluminum Chassis with the Mossberg Magpul Shotgun Stock!! For a Pistol Grip gun, I will take an AR, not this one. I love it with the Mossberg Magpul Stock