Midwest Mayhem 8 GRAND FINALS - EG | Zinoto [W] (Diddy, Corrin) vs TSM | ZeRo [L] (Lucina, Diddy)

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@thestylishfox5808
@thestylishfox5808 7 жыл бұрын
That SD first game was so unfortunate. It made ZeRo fearful of using his lucina for the rest of the set, but that Lucina was on a roll tho. Proved to me that this character has a lot of potential.
@destroyerofblades8923
@destroyerofblades8923 7 жыл бұрын
TheStylishFox 5 only reason people call Lucina bad despite her being a Marth is only because she doesn't have tipper on her sword.
@samuelvibritannia4831
@samuelvibritannia4831 7 жыл бұрын
TheStylishFox 5 I'm so glad he picked up the Lucina, the Cloud never seemed to be working out for him, and the moment he started praising and practicing with the Lucina I knew it was going to be used in tourney.
@destroyerofblades8923
@destroyerofblades8923 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel vi Britannia Now with a Top Player plying her, we will definitely see everyone's opinion about her change and maybe even see more Lucina players in the future.
@itscoolthough419
@itscoolthough419 7 жыл бұрын
Trueee, he wasn't cofident enough but think he could've adapted :/, just like he adpted with diddy and just bodied zinoto at the end
@calebluecht1612
@calebluecht1612 7 жыл бұрын
Diddy ditto in grands... feels like 2014 again
@tarhackle3503
@tarhackle3503 7 жыл бұрын
*2015
@sonicloud7774
@sonicloud7774 7 жыл бұрын
$tar$hackle Feels like prepatch.
@Chario_
@Chario_ 7 жыл бұрын
Shoutouts to Ally for streaming on Periscope
@Chario_
@Chario_ 7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Fox The internet in the venue died during GFs, so Ally streamed it using Periscope on data Link: twitter.com/C9AlIy/status/850916613134073856
@jssicow86
@jssicow86 7 жыл бұрын
Charles Xu I love Ally!!! that dudes got a great attitude.
@blankszone2276
@blankszone2276 7 жыл бұрын
Persistent blade switching with ZeRo so unfair, geez
@ActualAlienBoiiii
@ActualAlienBoiiii 7 жыл бұрын
Has coaching gone too far ?
@wesley777y
@wesley777y 7 жыл бұрын
It should be illegal to change with other players during a set, PersistentBlade should've kept playing... I wanted to see more Lucina u_u
@sonnybrown4758
@sonnybrown4758 7 жыл бұрын
I don't get this comment
@RTCrowNZz
@RTCrowNZz 7 жыл бұрын
Sonny Brown persistent blade is a name zero created when playing with lucina in some bracket or something and he was like rank 1 and never dropped a game. Something to that extent
@rahulshankar4784
@rahulshankar4784 7 жыл бұрын
itzmystory Umm no... There was an upcoming Lucina player by the name PersistentBlade rekting everyone on anthers and then got exposed as being ZeRo.
@Halvencyon
@Halvencyon 7 жыл бұрын
Ally's commentary was better Kappa
@destroyerofblades8923
@destroyerofblades8923 7 жыл бұрын
If Zero didn't accidentally SD, he would've definitely destroyed Zinoto with Lucina throughout the whole set.
@pickles.8888
@pickles.8888 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. L I wouldn't say definitely, Zinoto wasn't really getting destroyed by his Lucina, and I think ZeRo made the right choice switching considering he won 5 games in a row with Diddy.
@Div_Nic
@Div_Nic 7 жыл бұрын
Harry 8 Pizza 6 actually. Would've been fun to see persistentblade, but he definitely made the right call.
@hillmanhung3846
@hillmanhung3846 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. L zero could fight a close game with lucina, or he can completely crush zinotos hopes and dreams with diddy
@ShinyKelp
@ShinyKelp 7 жыл бұрын
Zero just 5-0'd Zinoto in the diddy ditto. Is Zero broken or is Zero broken?
@tokenetta8070
@tokenetta8070 7 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see more of Zero's Lucina. He would've rolled with her if he won the first game.
@gameandflogchannel
@gameandflogchannel 7 жыл бұрын
Tokenetta that really a ZeRo thing. He gets flustered pretty quick and loses confident in his picks so he switches off
@pickles.8888
@pickles.8888 7 жыл бұрын
gameandflogchannel Well I can see why ZeRo switched to Diddy though, considering he won every game afterwards with Diddy. At least we got to see his Lucina against Ally
@Hyushi_sama
@Hyushi_sama 7 жыл бұрын
gameandflogchannel I wouldn't call that losing confidence . him switching to Diddy vs Diddy seems like the smarter pick since zeros Diddy is over all better and match up doesn't really play a huge factor . it just comes down to who knows Diddy more, so zero won .
@tokenetta8070
@tokenetta8070 7 жыл бұрын
That first game was close, I guess he didn't like that so he switched.
@acario100
@acario100 7 жыл бұрын
Tokenetta if he was on winners side I bet he would have kept going as Lucina
@rayywyan8636
@rayywyan8636 7 жыл бұрын
The Ally Pariscope was wayyyy better than this
@chefcinnabutter
@chefcinnabutter 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't even see him until zinoto stood up.
@jaytaylor7735
@jaytaylor7735 7 жыл бұрын
The year is 20HOO-HAH...
@Blastros01
@Blastros01 7 жыл бұрын
Andre 3000 plays smash?!
@Ozi_i
@Ozi_i 7 жыл бұрын
強すぎww
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 7 жыл бұрын
What does Vikki mean when she said Corrin's head is always vulnerable off stage? Are there character that have invulnerable heads? If I had to guess I think she means Corrins can't use f-air hitboxes to protect her head like Lucina's can but I'm not sure.
@damiancarr168
@damiancarr168 7 жыл бұрын
Actually she was wrong about that. Corrin DOES have a hitbox above her head so she has a safe recovery. There is a small window after startup but before she rises were her head can be hit but that's it. I think what she was trying to say (incorrectly) is that unlike alot of smash characters corrin doesn't have a hitbox above her so she can be gimped. Similar to why it's unsafe to recover with Roslina or Pit.
@googlemeister8459
@googlemeister8459 7 жыл бұрын
She is wrong about many things.
@hero0686
@hero0686 7 жыл бұрын
Dark Knight She was right. Corrin is mostly vulnerable from above during her recovery.
@hero0686
@hero0686 7 жыл бұрын
Google Meister Seems you are wrong about a lot of things too
@damiancarr168
@damiancarr168 7 жыл бұрын
Colton McDonald No, she is not. She is not immortal in his UpB but she is FAR From vunerable. I would even go as far as to say she is one if the most difficult to edge guard properly. Go Google Corrin hitbox visualization and you can see it. with her slinder frame and in vunerable wings it is not possible to hit her with anything but a far reaching disjoint(around sword length) very low offstage.
@MaxSpl3
@MaxSpl3 7 жыл бұрын
Seeing the bananas flying everywhere makes this seem so crazy.
@Meh_phisto
@Meh_phisto 7 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of comments about how bad the female commentator is but I honestly don't hear anything wrong. Instead of bashing on someone who has a passion for the game why not help them get better? The entire community is about pushing everything to be their best so the scene can continue to grow.
@pausa.
@pausa. 7 жыл бұрын
David Berthelot yea exactly give her a chance
@christopherfigueroa3083
@christopherfigueroa3083 7 жыл бұрын
havent seen m2k in a while, what is he doing??
@Saskaruto16
@Saskaruto16 7 жыл бұрын
christopher figueroa Playing melee
@christopherfigueroa3083
@christopherfigueroa3083 7 жыл бұрын
Saskaruto16 whyy????
@Saskaruto16
@Saskaruto16 7 жыл бұрын
christopher figueroa Because he is better at it.
@christopherfigueroa3083
@christopherfigueroa3083 7 жыл бұрын
Saskaruto16 ur right!! but better money is in smash 4
@Saskaruto16
@Saskaruto16 7 жыл бұрын
christopher figueroa Not at the placement he gets. He does so much better in melee and doesn't do as well in smash 4. Melee also requires more dedication to simple stuff just to maintain. He has been taking games off of Armada recently. It's worth it for him to try to be the best melee player.
@G_U_STHEBESTE
@G_U_STHEBESTE 7 жыл бұрын
Let's go ZeRo!
@rain_mendoza2000
@rain_mendoza2000 7 жыл бұрын
The commentators didn't see the banana hit the barrels and they blame the recovery. it hurts
@Mentat1231
@Mentat1231 7 жыл бұрын
In case anyone was wondering if Zero was still the best Diddy....
@TheSLATEcleaner
@TheSLATEcleaner 7 жыл бұрын
The commentators said the end to game 2 was unsatisfying, but Zero actually blocked him with a banana hit, which was a smart play.
@knifeyxp
@knifeyxp 7 жыл бұрын
Wish we could've seen the Lucina vs. Corrin
@DairInNeutral
@DairInNeutral 7 жыл бұрын
EZ | Zinoto
@sonicloud7774
@sonicloud7774 7 жыл бұрын
This set was okay except for that sd from zero's lucina making him switch to DIDDY KONG. Seriously I wanted to see more lucina ☹
@zonx27
@zonx27 7 жыл бұрын
I also was confused how Zero committed the SD in game one. I coulda sworn he hit the ground before falling off the edge. By the time he realized he had lost his jump he was dead.
@MLGPro1x1
@MLGPro1x1 7 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing
@4cyl
@4cyl 7 жыл бұрын
Ally The Hero THE GOAT our savior Captain Canada!
@Hennerrs
@Hennerrs 7 жыл бұрын
"Zero with the pop off".... Should have gone to Specsavers =L Great game though, good to see Zero still doing his thing!
@fudzi5971
@fudzi5971 7 жыл бұрын
Lord zero strikes again!
@ExpertDual
@ExpertDual 7 жыл бұрын
Zinoto powershielded fsmash once and ZeRo did it again to see if he could do it on reaction lol
@ExpertDual
@ExpertDual 7 жыл бұрын
Another difference, ZeRo only Autocancels fair when it's unsafe on hit, while zinoto uses fair whenever, even when it is unsafe on hit
@Null834
@Null834 7 жыл бұрын
Please don't let Vikki commentate UR tournaments, half tournament matches she was getting information about players wrong, no offense but commentators should be knowledgable on the scene if they don't know something or are unsure about something don't say anything.
@googlemeister8459
@googlemeister8459 7 жыл бұрын
I agree
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 7 жыл бұрын
Etika Fresh off da Block Can't you just calmly correct them? On top of that, do you expect commentators to know absolutely everything?
@linkganonmix
@linkganonmix 7 жыл бұрын
How are you going to correct commentators mid set? Tweet at them? And sure, commentators don't have to know absolutely everything, but they shouldn't make claims about things that they don't have their facts straight on. I personally don't mind Vikki commentating, but still, what you said was kinda weird.
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 7 жыл бұрын
Kwinston X Smash Maybe critique them in between certain sets via Tweet? Or maybe offering constructive criticism on, say, Reddit?
@rahulshankar4784
@rahulshankar4784 7 жыл бұрын
Etika Fresh off da Block #freehyuga
@prettiestgirlinschool8909
@prettiestgirlinschool8909 7 жыл бұрын
at 14:50 zinoto was able to just run over zero's banana .. why???
@Psytheslasher
@Psytheslasher 7 жыл бұрын
Prettiest Girl in School initial dash allows a lot of characters to move over banana because they are literally in the air.
@majinz4812
@majinz4812 7 жыл бұрын
what did JJ possibly have to say @ 2:44 ???? to not SD like he does every set lol
@alejandrosalgado7199
@alejandrosalgado7199 7 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the end of this set, but I have to say that in my experience, Lucina has no advantage over diddy kong (that said, it is a bad matchup for Lucina and Marth)
@christopherfigueroa3083
@christopherfigueroa3083 7 жыл бұрын
19:51-20:25 0% to death zero to zinoto
@Psychoma99
@Psychoma99 7 жыл бұрын
Zinoto's Diddy ain't shit compared to Zero
@knojangles
@knojangles 7 жыл бұрын
7 GRAND Finals
@Ravio.Helianthus
@Ravio.Helianthus 7 жыл бұрын
that yoshi todokete
@prod_kg
@prod_kg 7 жыл бұрын
Tfw the only game you won was because your opponent SD'd
@bagfaceman1656
@bagfaceman1656 7 жыл бұрын
KG *Game
@prod_kg
@prod_kg 7 жыл бұрын
True true
@space-majin2972
@space-majin2972 7 жыл бұрын
Lol I see some people are complaining about the female commentator. I really don't see the difference, she sounds like the rest of the other commentators other than her voice. Geo thing that everyone keeps complaining about isn't that big a deal calm it. idk why but I think TKbreezy is the best commentator, and that D1 guy.
@bigjoe2438
@bigjoe2438 7 жыл бұрын
Did you just like your own comment? lmao
@space-majin2972
@space-majin2972 7 жыл бұрын
Big Joe​ Um no. If i click it now it'll be 2 likes. Nice job being random lol.
@michaelsears1627
@michaelsears1627 7 жыл бұрын
She just feels fake to me. And usually I like sturm but he seems worse with her by his side. She has no good commentary duos that i've seen.
@animusicalfool7670
@animusicalfool7670 7 жыл бұрын
I think both did a better job compared to most. They kept it focused on the match and were able to follow and comment on nearly every move. If there's one thing I'm not crazy about is bias as a commentator because you have to be neutral to properly comment on the match, which is why I prefer these two (along with a rare few other smashers) over TKbreezy and D1. If they didn't show bias on occasion, they'd probably be the best.
@adrianchriste6
@adrianchriste6 7 жыл бұрын
zinoto played really well, idk why he never put the pressure on
@Direwoof
@Direwoof 7 жыл бұрын
zinoto always lookin fly af with dat hat.
@thestylishfox5808
@thestylishfox5808 7 жыл бұрын
13:55-14:00 Lmao, whom was that guy shit talking in the back?
@Miracle7SSF2
@Miracle7SSF2 7 жыл бұрын
Ally
@narukamizanagi8645
@narukamizanagi8645 7 жыл бұрын
TheStylishFox 5 what was he saying?
@pinguijose
@pinguijose 7 жыл бұрын
over 26 minutes long video, Oh boy I wonder who is going to win smh
@xx_v_xx4373
@xx_v_xx4373 7 жыл бұрын
pinguijose just be glad this isnt a Wrath set
@jakiee
@jakiee 7 жыл бұрын
Cifu El Pro It does. If ZeRo hadn't gotten the bracket reset, the video wouldn't have been that long. There is a chance that that could happen, but it's next to none.
@sploing1
@sploing1 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the second commentator was a kid until the end lol rip
@Serralas
@Serralas 7 жыл бұрын
Zero's Lucina is so much more fun to watch.
@riiddisbuk2496
@riiddisbuk2496 7 жыл бұрын
Congratz Zero :D.
@adamentkadabra2508
@adamentkadabra2508 7 жыл бұрын
Ally pariscope > everything
@danielspahn3891
@danielspahn3891 7 жыл бұрын
Zinoto didn't have much of a chance, can't beat someone who knows exactly what you're gonna do
@yoyobeat3196
@yoyobeat3196 7 жыл бұрын
vikkikitty: her head..... (talking about corrin), nobody talks about male corrinXD
@KorewaKosmo
@KorewaKosmo 7 жыл бұрын
kinda dissapointed that Zero, being a top player, switches to Diddy just cause he sd. He was doing perfectly fine with Lucina and should have sticked with her, its not like a player of his caliber cant handle any preassure just cause he made a mistake
@sethstoll8525
@sethstoll8525 7 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure he wanted to win so
@KorewaKosmo
@KorewaKosmo 7 жыл бұрын
hes got nothing to prove, we know he is if not the best one of the best. why not fully acomplish another win with a secondary
@carlosmontenegro1927
@carlosmontenegro1927 7 жыл бұрын
schlaepferAA lol cause he plays to win. playing diddy was the best option since he knew he would win. why woulf you not if youre playing to win?
@KorewaKosmo
@KorewaKosmo 7 жыл бұрын
well then I guess you completely missed my point
@Blakeadam52
@Blakeadam52 7 жыл бұрын
these commentators tried way too hard lmao they werent meant for the mic dawg lol
@augustcelineiii946
@augustcelineiii946 7 жыл бұрын
Blake_adam UNPLUG YOUR CONTROLLER DAWG.
@Cheezmonka
@Cheezmonka 7 жыл бұрын
Fucking lord, everybody. Think the commentators are bad? Try yourselves, the commenters. Talk about the game or the match, not the people talking about the game or the match.
@MegaGrassman
@MegaGrassman 7 жыл бұрын
PersistentSpaghetti
@Aae.X.
@Aae.X. 7 жыл бұрын
He should've stuck with Lucina
@SoulxFullMetal64
@SoulxFullMetal64 7 жыл бұрын
ZeRo is broken
@renishbadarpura7740
@renishbadarpura7740 7 жыл бұрын
Zero gonna win EVO with this Lucina FREE
@miity9734
@miity9734 7 жыл бұрын
Renish Badarpura nope
@thelrproject257
@thelrproject257 7 жыл бұрын
zinoto looks like andre 3000
@starpix777
@starpix777 7 жыл бұрын
Vikky is amazing, props to her! :)
@julioarcaiko
@julioarcaiko 7 жыл бұрын
starpix777 yeah she's improved so much. You can tell she cares about commentating, if she sticks at it she could be a mainstay.
@terencekelly2547
@terencekelly2547 7 жыл бұрын
starpix777 If her voice wasn't so annoying
@Niceguyhidden
@Niceguyhidden 7 жыл бұрын
Terence Kelly Why is it annoying?
@terencekelly2547
@terencekelly2547 7 жыл бұрын
Herodreamer Oh I just decided that I wanted it to be annoying so it is. What the fuck do you mean why is it annoying? It just is, do you have ears.
@matthewmazzatto8003
@matthewmazzatto8003 7 жыл бұрын
A voice being annoying is very subjective. She just sounds different than commentators like D1 and EE. Could that be why her voice is annoying?
@Guywith2usernames
@Guywith2usernames 7 жыл бұрын
Vikki makes this almost unwatchable without muting...
@pog7547
@pog7547 7 жыл бұрын
I really don't like Vikki as a commentator
@em-ji1zb
@em-ji1zb 7 жыл бұрын
wow that's rude 😥
@Mangosjoraa
@Mangosjoraa 7 жыл бұрын
Navi I feel u homie
@googlemeister8459
@googlemeister8459 7 жыл бұрын
How is it rude? it's an opinion. No rude words were thrown into that comment.
@Mangosjoraa
@Mangosjoraa 7 жыл бұрын
Google Meister true
@em-ji1zb
@em-ji1zb 7 жыл бұрын
Google Meister cuz Vikki tried her best and Navi just said she doesn't like it when she commentates I almost cried when I saw that
@bahao1274
@bahao1274 7 жыл бұрын
nice
@bambyce
@bambyce 6 жыл бұрын
That was the lamest Zero to death I've ever seen.
@lolkuuja1612
@lolkuuja1612 7 жыл бұрын
Hoo ha
@xelementalsupreme9308
@xelementalsupreme9308 7 жыл бұрын
Diddyception
@KamuiSR
@KamuiSR 7 жыл бұрын
he tried to use corrin vs diddy lool
@4cyl
@4cyl 7 жыл бұрын
do you guys like the girl's commentary?
@Tboiii
@Tboiii 7 жыл бұрын
no
@georgezhang5784
@georgezhang5784 7 жыл бұрын
No
@astackzzzz9759
@astackzzzz9759 7 жыл бұрын
yes.
@jaysee6320
@jaysee6320 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's ok
@sonnybrown4758
@sonnybrown4758 7 жыл бұрын
it's good
@sonnybrown4758
@sonnybrown4758 7 жыл бұрын
Really great technical but fun commentary.
@daviddorn742
@daviddorn742 7 жыл бұрын
bad zinoto play and big mum zero
@ProfCube
@ProfCube 7 жыл бұрын
omfg if something is anticlimactic dont talk aboit it being anticlimactic. That makes it even MORE anticlimactic.
@kjayy7682
@kjayy7682 7 жыл бұрын
I don't really enjoy vikki's commentary. I wish they would have someone a bit more knowledgeable.
@willis195
@willis195 7 жыл бұрын
first
@jonathanvida78
@jonathanvida78 7 жыл бұрын
Wilhelma Willis 247196839614683th
@kuramijuno2482
@kuramijuno2482 7 жыл бұрын
llantkidll lol.
@fopneus8438
@fopneus8438 7 жыл бұрын
where's hyuga when you need him? god damn vikkikitty
@jadeh.7298
@jadeh.7298 7 жыл бұрын
Vikkie is my favorite commentator
@em-ji1zb
@em-ji1zb 7 жыл бұрын
Jade H. nice
@linkganonmix
@linkganonmix 7 жыл бұрын
Why?
@toxiclightning5303
@toxiclightning5303 7 жыл бұрын
Jade H. TkBreezy and Keitaro are better imo
@EnergyTK
@EnergyTK 7 жыл бұрын
she's shit.
@DracoKira
@DracoKira 7 жыл бұрын
ee,tk breezy for life
@valerifaber1343
@valerifaber1343 7 жыл бұрын
HYUGA
@SendFoodz
@SendFoodz 7 жыл бұрын
Persistent Blade reminds me of when Hikaru No Go played online as Sai lol
@ProfCube
@ProfCube 7 жыл бұрын
omfg if something is anticlimactic dont talk aboit it being anticlimactic. That makes it even MORE anticlimactic.
@jadeh.7298
@jadeh.7298 7 жыл бұрын
Vikkie is my favorite commentator
@em-ji1zb
@em-ji1zb 7 жыл бұрын
Jade H. nice
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