Retro painting: the first Terminator from Warhammer 40,000 with Bob Naismith

[@MidwinterMinis]

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[@roelandpellis3679]

Already on Audible, because of you :) But if you have book recommendations I would love to hear them as well! Audible is awesome.

[@MidwinterMinis]

@@roelandpellis3679 I know it's a bit obvious, but Jurassic Park was awesome! The differences from the film are really interesting.

[@Jormyyy]

@@roelandpellis3679 Jurassic Park read by Scott Brick was my first audible experience. I highly recommend it, as well as it's sequel, The Lost World. Orrrrr of you want Warhammer books, well that all depends on your favorite faction! My introduction to the Black Library were the first 5 hooks of the Horus Heresy, which I would definitely reccomend. The Horus trilogy; Horus Rising, False Gods, Galaxy in Flames, followed by Flight of the Eisenstein and then Fulgrim. All great reads/ listens! My personal favorite BL book so far though is Lords of Silence, a book from the Death Guard's perspective. Wonderfully Nurgle filled read, and the narrator is also phenomenal. I have plenty of other stuff in my library too that I love to reccomend!

[@Jormyyy]

@@MidwinterMinis Are you gonna also listen to it's sequel, The Lost World? It is just as good!

[@paganshredhead599]

Is this video demonetized or why are there no ads?

[@cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543]

I do find it kinda saddening that Bob puts himself down as a sculptor, humble as he is I think his work holds up incredibly and his influence shouldn't ever be downplayed

[@andromidius]

I think its actually a pretty cool model with only one real weakness - the helmet. Its in completely the wrong place - if you look at the arm and leg placements the 'helmet' is actually sticking out of the chest, so the Marine's head should be poking out of the top. Unless its meant to be such a big suit of armour that its actually a small mech and the Marine is actually inside the torso. Otherwise I like it - the power fist looks great in particular.

[@cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543]

@@andromidius just mind this was back when scale and proportions weren't rules, more vague guidelines it's harder to critique a piece such as this when it came from a time where space fantasy miniatures were a bold uncharted frontier

[@mobilegamersunite]

I love this model! Grampa Terminator FTW 😂 can't wait to paint mine! He's soaking in Awesome O now!

[@disposable_income_andy]

Yeah but for guys like him who're obviously at the top (I mean, he literally helped make Warhammer), I think it's a good habit to connect yourself more with fans and the little guys, it puts you down but it also can lifts others up knowing they don't *have* to be perfect or a professional. It's good to spread positivity and acceptance in a community largely about painting and modelling, everything will be completely unique anyway and it's about making it yours.

[@Ragdollcatman001]

I agree.. I have some of these Terminator models and the detail still stands up to todays stuff. Sure the castings aren't good (the metal itself is a bit meh) but the models themselves are still decent.

[@Grymbaldknight]

40k is in that perfect middle ground where the franchise is old enough for aspects of it to be considered "classic", but young enough that most of its original creators are still alive and kicking. Star Wars is in a similar position. That model looks incredible, and i'm really glad you were able to get a legendary interview with Bob Naismith!

[@MidwinterMinis]

Thanks so much! It was an absolute pleasure chatting with him, what a hero.

[@GoobertownHobbies]

Great to put a voice with a name- thanks for this, Guy!

[@Josh24861]

Goob

[@NachoBearYeah]

Damn Goob you're always in the comment section of every wargamer's videos what a nice guy

[@nickkohlmann]

Hey if it isn't one of the nicest people in the hobby :D

[@ShutUpWesley]

But is he a free guy?

[@notagoodsitrep]

He paints the gauntlets in Mephiston Red and doesn't make the pun "I'll just paint Me-fist-in red." Please turn in your dad loicense at the nearest Ministry of Paternal Humor office.

[@sickelej3620]

ugh cant even read comments without being assaulted by great dad jokes lol

[@DFloyd84]

It's okay, he's got a Provisional Dad Loicense because he's a new father. He's allowed to miss a few dad jokes while he gets the hang of it.

[@countzero1136]

Nothing wrong with dad jokes - it's a nice reminder of a time when people were allowed to have a sense of humour!

[@thebryceroy6155]

@@countzero1136 Dad jokes are never intended to be humorous, they are a noogie/arm punch/wet willie/indian burn in verbal form. If it's actually funny, it's not a Dad Joke, it's just a Painless Pun.

[@countzero1136]

@@thebryceroy6155 I can see that you're really too young to appreciate proper humour :(

[@anotherzingbo]

I originally got into Warhammer in the latter half of 1989. Even by that point the three original Terminator sculpts were weird and obscure things that only rarely made appearances in 'Eavy Metal. It's great seeing one in such detail and seeing it painted up so well. It's made even better by hearing Bob Naismith providing background and context on it and his time at Games Workshop too.

[@MidwinterMinis]

One of my friends had one when I was little, I always wanted one, but it wasn't until recently I realised what it was! Sometimes the internet is quite useful, haha

[@Senbei01]

I actually picked up all three of the variants... From GW Mail-order, just before the archive service got closed down. It may have been as late as 1999. Also picked up an Ambull at around the same time. I can't remember what inspired me to do so. They were probably a pretty good investment.

[@cams.2083]

Just found a "ground trooper" from GW 1985 in my local stores bit box... Older than me! (Afraid to paint it yet)

[@lordhamster9452]

@@cams.2083 I am considering ordering some old 2nd edition models and i am also not sure weather i can paint such relics.

[@anotherzingbo]

@@lordhamster9452 if you're worried about "doing them justice" or something like that, don't be! They were always sold to be painted and gamed with, plus if at some point down the line you decide you don't like what you've done with them it's not hard to strip the paint off and paint them again. My only specific advice about painting metal models compared to plastic ones is don't skip the priming and varnishing stages, as paint is more prone to chipping and rubbing off metal models than plastic ones.

[@AlessandroZarrillo]

Bob's microphone quality makes it sound like he's replying to you from the past

[@euansmith3699]

Time moves strangely in the Warp.

[@Stereo_type1982]

Bonus points if it was intentional.

[@andrewt9128]

I thought the exact same thing!

[@patrickdillon500]

Guy, you are the perfect mix of legit wargamer fan, an excellent voice, great painting skills, and high production value. Im glad i started watching your work. It’s made a difference.

[@notreallydavid]

I bet Guy's made a few people think: 'What's the point of starting a channel? I'll never produce anything as good as that.' So much applaudable stuff in MMworld, not least the concrete support for CALM and the speaking up for GW employees and their cheekily underpowered salaries. Go, G+P+2!

[@TheShweeble]

Great video! The only thing that's missing is a comment from Luetin about how the terminator with the big pauldrons isn't actually Saturnine

[@MidwinterMinis]

I'm waiting, haha

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

And how it could/kinda was made into a salamanders pattern terme suit.

[@starnostras]

@@MidwinterMinis This whole video was a work with that goal - admit it.

[@Kirioth]

Been saving this for a quiet moment and it was 100% worth the wait. Lovely vid dude, brilliant work.

[@oliverp3545]

Good models are always appreciated regardless of age.

[@Nanowith1]

I love the chat with the designer! Please do more with other sculpters!

[@FandangoJon]

I can't say I've ever read or seen a vid speaking with Mr. Naismith. It was great to hear some of the history directly from the sculptor. GW doesn't do enough to credit their artists...so thank you for shining a spotlight on Bob's work! And thank you Mr. Naismith!

[@sterlinga.5410]

This video gave me nostalgia for a time that I wasn't even alive for.

[@MidwinterMinis]

I mean, this only came out when I was 3, so... same, pretty much!

[@sterlinga.5410]

@@MidwinterMinis The really weird part is that I've only gotten into Warhammer in the last year or so, primarily from your videos! So I really have no clue where this nostalgia came from 🤔

[@chrisgoodier6825]

“Somewhere in the dark and nasty regions, where nobody goes, stands an ancient castle. Deep within this dank and uninviting place lives Burk. Over worked servant of the thing upstairs. But that's nothing compared to the horrors that lurk beneath the trapdoor. For there's always something down there, in the dark... waiting to come out.”

[@Ollidol]

The new Space marine models are great. And the style of modern Warhammer looks great. But the old models have some charm to them.

[@MidwinterMinis]

SO much charm!

[@Kiyyou-253]

i agree with you, but some of the new marines models have that "tacti-cool" esthetic that i don't like, i think the first models that capture the right style were the bladeguards

[@sirgallant5000]

@@Kiyyou-253 Agreed. What made me fall in love with 40k in the first place is how clunky everything look. Well, not everything, the Eldar were suitably sleek, but Imperial tech not so much. Really conveyed the idea of a fallen empire having technology advanced enough to go toe to toe with xenos but ancient and roughly patched together by people who don't really understand how it works and are doing their best. Modern 40k is just simply too pretty. It isn't bad, but looks a lot like many other sci-fi franchises and original 40k did not.

[@Necromancer0007]

@@sirgallant5000 And from the material side.... I don't understand this "new" trend at GW with resin and plastic.... When I was a kid and played 40k.... The metal models were the normal/good ones and the plastic ones were the shitty ones (not necessarly the sculpting quality) and no resin.... Nowadays everything plastic (which is still better than resin as i think but nowhere to metal). GW can't explain that the metal materials and molding/melting techniques aren't advanced as much that they can't keep up with the details and everything of the resin and plastic models manufacturing techniques. I wish they bring back the nearly full palette/catalog of metal miniatures (sadly i know they won't but...)

[@shadowofhawk55]

In the marines, I'm half and half. The new helmets look, mostly, bad compared to the old vox grilled ones. And my first marines were Primaris. The models I have that I love the look of more are the old school ones. That said, stuff like the Aggressors, the Reivers, and the various captains and other heroes of the Primaris line are so dope. Just need to switch out their helmets.

[@SimonTrimby]

I believe the style of having mottos like 'kil kil kil' on figures can be traced back to the artwork of Kevin O'Neal in 2000AD. He drew a lot of Nemesis the Warlock, which is clearly part of the inspiration for the Imperium of Man in 40K. Many of Nemesis' enemies (called the Terminators!) had pithy comments such as 'Slay!" and 'Repent!' on their armour, and this habit seems to have carried over into the artwork of Rogue Trader. And yes, I'm old enough to remember all this first hand.

[@Winterydee]

Nice paint job as always. But the video with the elements of your interview with Bob Naismith is simply brilliant! Thank you both, Bob and you Guy for doing this and giving us a little bit of insight into the history of this game from a non lore perspective.

[@hyderalhassani4907]

Guy, it's videos like this one that make me glad I'm a patron. This could have easily been just a simple painting tutorial, but like with so many of your videos that little bit of extra context and personality make it just so much better. Keep 'em coming!

[@Deadpool_collector247]

So heres a story for you... I use to paint warhammer in the early 90s as a kid. Life eventually took over and i left the hobby behind. Fast forward 25 years I get a board game with miniatures for a gift (This war of mine). Decided to buy a starter set of vallejo paints to get the minis looking nice. Its now been 3 years since I have painted that game, and I have painted dozens of board games, hundreds of miniatures, and other game scenery but never bought back into Warhammer... until yesterday. I was in the newsagents and saw the new issue 1,2 &3 of Warhammer monthly subsciption, I picked up the first 2 issues. I am honestly amazed at the level of detail they can produce nowadays. Im stuck into the models & love them. Dont think I will buy back into Warhammer as a game but may pick up the occasional cool mini, but it's so cool to see the progression of the miniature creation process and how far we have come since the 90s :)

[@themainman2827]

2 years after, the 3d model is free out there.

[@RobsonRoverRepair]

The retro colours just brought me back 30 years to when I was 9 years old, sitting painting my armies and honestly being so happy and proud of my blobby messes. Thank you mate.

[@SimonClark]

This was great!

[@Mondaynightgaming23]

Knocked it out of the park guy, what a gorgeous paint job on a gorgeously nostalgic model! You've inspired me to start recording my terrain building endeavours to start my own channel. Keep it up mate

[@APremiumDegenerate]

Brilliant. This was an excellent vehicle for interviewing one of the greats, great charity idea, and excellent work on a fantastic mini. Would love to see more of this style.

[@mikefoster6018]

Superb. These guys have a special place in my heart. I'm 46, started gaming at about age 12, and remember when all this stuff was first coming out. Amazing! Back in the days when I'd paint minis from Humbrol enamel tins etc. Dang, I still love my old GW marsh troll mini from back then. I relished painted bright yellow tips on all its boils!

[@RedCrusader-ph2vk]

I really like the look of these old terminators! I've been looking for videos painting the "Saturnine" terminator but I can't find any!

[@kambulwatts3309]

Now hear me out, How cool would it be if this was the design GW went with for the inevitable Primaris Terminators. An old school look on a new plastic kit. I just think it would look amazing.

[@MidwinterMinis]

Absolutely! I think there's some design aspects on the Primaris range that are already borrowed from this model, so I think it would work well!

[@afireinsidebrad]

I was legit just thinking that myself

[@doctoradventure413]

Pretty sure gravis armor is supposed to be primaris terminator armor

[@ExGemini]

@@doctoradventure413 Correct, sadly

[@vanhohenheim9249]

Maybe it could be explained as some early unit of terminators lost in time in the warp that came back a few centuries later or something

[@Thoughtsmith]

I grew up with the 2E termies and I will always love them. (I played Space Wolves, my best mate was Dark Angels, we both had reasons to go hard on our Terminators.) But this design is honestly brilliant.

[@SalithTaydan]

Thank you for being such a wonderful human being (and for getting Dana Howl to cameo time and time again, it's a delight)

[@Fierfek1972]

Still one of my favourite miniatures, I didn't go for a particular chapter, mine is bright yellow, with the circular back detail in red.

[@sentientbean1]

More of this please! Great to hear the sculptor/creator give his views. Very nice of Bob to do so.

[@steviebarrett]

I fully approve the decision to call the previously unnamed Terminator, Steve.

[@JonesySurvived]

"Steve Pattern" sounds like a legit name haha.

[@Coproquim]

I like how it's not named. But is clearly the direct ancestor of the indomitus pattern

[@tfan2222]

@@Coproquim Ehhh not quite, it’s helmet? Yes definitely, but the one next to the “saturnine” terminator looks far more like the indomitus.

[@gerardsandee1520]

Oh great, an ancient terminator model, and beautifully painted as well. And with the comment of the designer as well. And two newborn hoo-man. All the best for the twins, Penny, and you. Chizz!

[@chuckleloaf]

This video brought back so many happy memories of my early days in the hobby. Those early Rogue Trader days were so much fun. Probably why I'm still a minis gamer more than 3 decades on.

[@timbrown4928]

Great vid! Thanks so much Guy & Bob! Legends!

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

One of the thing that helps with Eldar vehicles holding up is that they're not reliant on fiddly detail, and the lore basis of their tech means you're not going to see complex worky gubbinz everywhere. Yeah, the crew could use an update, but for the actual vehicle... I dunno, maybe the sprue couldbe better arranged, but that seems to be about it.

[@oliverp3545]

Only thing I'd say is that they need to be updated to be compatible with the current heavy weapons that vehicles use now since the modern ones are a pain to make fit with them.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

@@oliverp3545 Fair point.

[@aznperson8]

The retro sculpt actually had plenty of beautiful armor panels that you made look absolutely badass with your careful edge highlights! It looks amazing!

[@andrewlauptsd]

Perfect hobby video: the craft, nostalgia and interview, plus linking with good causes and relevant sponsors. Bravo. 👍

[@mjr543]

Bob Naismith himself. Transmitting from literally the centre of the warp as well. Amazing.

[@dr.tyrannosaur2158]

That's a fantastic paintjob on the second Terminator from Warhammer 40K!

[@MrAbraxus666]

Said it before, I'll say it again. I'm not deaf, but I LOVE that you fire in CCs. Love you as always my mans.

[@sashav6847]

LOVED the chat with Mr. Naismith. That was absolute class Guy. Great work mate :)

[@joebaldwin3560]

Really enjoyed this video on so many levels. I love hearing the old designers talking about their time working at GW. I thoroughly enjoyed your painting of the classic mini. And the fact this video will contribute to a worthwhile cause for years to come is great. My one annoyance is that in rushing to type this comment I knocked over my bottle of Asurmen Blue wash... worth it.

[@tomgeytenbeek2207]

Perfect thing to come back to after a shift- this is gonna be a fantastic dinner :) comments for the algorithm!

[@FreakyGremlinDK]

Amazing how a good paint job can make old models look amazing and even blend in with new models.

[@marksonsthagen6283]

Another corking vid Guy, well done. Supporting Calm is brilliant and as the community we can spread the message far and wide.

[@JRedMage]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. Thanks I needed a fix of retro fun.

[@aaronbrown4275]

I love the hell out of 1st and 2nd ed 40k minis. They're so fun to paint.

[@eab22]

Guy - amazing video. So proud of you supporting such a wonderful cause.

[@thomasguy720]

Guy / Penny- Blinded by Daylight, amazing channel that won't disappoint. Thank you both for being amazing!

[@malcolmjcullen]

Total flashback - had completely forgotten the fact that I once owned every single one of those original Eldar models. Great video, all about the time, late 80's, when I was really into Warhammer and spending all my pocket money on Citadel miniatures every week. Recognised every catalogue page and every model, like it was only yesterday I last saw them, when in reality it was over 30 damn years ago!

[@asaffin1]

I dunno why but as I'm getting back into 40k these days, I am more and more gravitating towards the old school stuff, and it's great to watch you enjoy it as well.

[@cory7328]

I love with the retro models now and this video is just a dive into the world of art. Great job!

[@drakesterX]

As much as I love both Space Marines and Admech, This vintage cobra Terminator has to be one of my favourite looking minis! Excellent work as always Guy! Cheers to you, Penny and the Twins!

[@flamingbaby247]

From your personal music, personal interview with Bob, and your personal close up painting tutorial, there is just so much personality and individualism in your videos.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Yay more retro stuff! That was nice getting to hear from the creator of the sculpt from back then! And thanks for picking a not well-known charity! Also, the model looks great!

[@Totema1]

I would _absolutely love_ to see a modern take on this design. It looks very unique compared to what we normally see in Terminators.

[@geronimo8159]

Yeah, it looks pretty unique

[@jc5512]

@@geronimo8159 it's different to the usual terminators, yes. Unique is a binary though, it's a contradiction to qualify it with 'very' or 'pretty'. Why yes I am invited to all the parties.

[@instrukt2130]

I think this is one of the best Warhammer Videos I have ever seen!

[@deaconblack8939]

I started collecting and painting early this year, your how too tutorial was my step by step guide. I appreciate all these retro throw backs, since I'm a little late to the party 😅.

[@minibob9252]

This little guy looks so amazing. Good job!

[@Noodle_Druid]

The Forever War is one of those books that claims to be a classic in the blurb but I've never met anyone else who's read it. I'm glad you enjoyed it Guy

[@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen]

I feel that might be because of the sequels? They are... eh, rather rough to get through, and could retroactively sour people on the entire series. The Forever War is a bona fide classic, though.

[@oceanmaster541]

Comments for the engagement god! Great video Guy, super cool to hear Bob Naismith's input and to watch you paint!

[@johnhoward7069]

When i got into 40k buying every single generation of terminator models was one of the first projects i had. Super fun to see some of these old guys again, I have this model in the blister pack still

[@lordhamster9452]

The old models are so pretty! There’s something so charming and magical about them. They radiate history, tell a story and posses a special vintage vibe. I also love that you asked the author, didn’t expect that. I personally consider getting some vintage eldar models, but i am nit sure weather i can make them justice. But there’s only way to find out.

[@Ootori_sama]

The fact that Bob Naismith has a Patreon is the best reveal ever. I'm subbing immediately

[@phatboi9760]

Brilliant work, both the model and charity support.

[@GermanNightmare1976]

Love the mini, love the paint job, really love the audiobook, and especially appreciate the cause of this vid. Excellent job altogether.

[@WhayYay]

Oh hell yeah I remember you teasing this video. So excited for this.

[@MW-xi9oy]

Interview with the sculptor- nice touch! And good on Bob for doing it 😉

[@bdkoehler]

Fantastic, Guy! I love the stepup base and magnets idea.

[@Chris-lr2qb]

What a wonderful way to support a great charity. Nice work, Guy!

[@rushthewash]

Man, DO I LOVE retro painting. Very cool seeing old minis come to life.

[@CitadelSavage]

I love seeing how things evolved over time. Great stuff.

[@Ethnarches]

I love this kind of videos on retrohammer and very cool of you having tracked down Bob and thank you to him for giving a short interview. The early years are fascinating. He does some cool sculpts still!

[@jamesfrancis7025]

Great video and thanks for using it to raise awareness of CALM and suicide, particularly in men. The positive content of channels such as yours on KZbin also really helped me during the dark times I had during the second lockdown when isolation and issues in my life took me to that edge. Thanks again for the good work on all fronts

[@SerPounce23]

adding this to my list of daily videos. thanks for organising this Guy.

[@NickCroll]

Guy, your production value and connections paid off again. Great vid!

[@synthetic240]

Great job on the skull decal. I'm honestly impressed.

[@whos-your-mate]

Great video Guy. Well done for supporting CALM too 👍👍

[@nanomachines2985]

Forever War and Starship Troopers are just absolutely amazing books and are in almost every single "top Sci fi" book list (top 10, 20, 50, etc)

[@JanMazurek]

Great model and paint job. Thank you!

[@LurksNoMore]

That double base is a brilliant idea. Great retro stuff overall! :)

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

I think this is my favourite terminator design because it looks like a real evolution of standard space marine armor. I know that the new lore for Terminators is that they are repurposed industrial equipment, but this design just. I love it.

[@LuckGod84]

Love it! I introduced my 4yo daughter to trapdoor recently and she loved it!! She often says "Oh globbits!" now

[@MiniaturesandMonologues]

Why does the end music always make me emotional…much love dude love the videos

[@taylorcasale680]

That's really awesome. I'm very happy this is going toward a good cause.

[@jwilbrahamford]

Thanks Guy and Bob. Very interesting stuff. Such a cool bit of history to hear more about.

[@corneliusperkins7363]

Another great video, along with a great cause, cool mini, and fascinating interview. Plus I really like the magnetized double-base idea. I've been putting off painting a ton of old minis, because I can't decide what to base them for. Plus I'm lazy and buy more than I paint. But partly that first thing.

[@solidzaku2]

It's neat seeing the design legacy. Take a look at the game book art that pops up now and then, then look at the FW Warhound. Really striking DNA in those heads.

[@chrisdixon6689]

Great work! Nice one to give CALM a shout out.

[@emdeo]

That's a lovely goal, and a .... very interesting miniature!

[@marcwittkowski5146]

What an amazing mini, great insight from Bob, great paintjob and beautiful cause to which you donate. Love it.

[@void_7828]

Very realistic and smart way to go around the donation, awesome work as always

[@_oidaki_]

Absolute banger of a video. This man literally cannot miss.

[@tomamos441]

Man, this interview was great - had such a rock n roll / garage band feel to it!

[@marcocardoso8745]

This is awesome on so many different levels. Seriously, being reminded, that there are good people out there, can mean the world at the right moment.

[@TrentRosenbaum]

Always great content and thanks for a trip down memory lane. Also great for raising awareness for the charity.

[@siph_horridus]

Great idea Guy, I have one unpainted in the pile of shame, now up on eBay too as yours ends in 8hrs with 50% to CALM. Inspiring video and worthy cause.

[@S1RVicTOR]

Awesome video, Guy. I'm really glad you're bringing a attention to this topic, and use your platform for something so positive. I hope someone will be able to pay what this model is worth to you but anything it sells for helps. Thank you!

[@beatsandskiesmtg]

Krang-anator! It'd be cool to see a slightly upscaled version of this guy which is more in line with the size of the current Terminators. All three of them, even. The "Saturnine" (Sorry, Luetin) is obviously already a super popular request for this, but they all have their own charm. I want to be able to run a 10 man squad with all different armour styles!