Migrate ANY Home Assistant Installation

[@EverythingSmartHome]

What platform or install are you moving from?!

[@iron1ion27]

From Docker to VM. Had some auth permission issues that threw some issues but chmod/chown solved issues.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

It's always the damn permissions 😂

[@SvenOo89]

I'm planning on moving from Core on Ubuntu venv to HassOS on a VM on the same machine. Want to make use of the extra functionality like add-ons, snapshots and such. This video really couldn't come at a better time, thank you.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Good luck with the move and thanks for the support!

[@DerekHolmes]

I've been tempted to move from my pi to a VM on my NAS... Not sure if I'm ready to pull the trigger on it yet though.

[@jderck]

This was helpful, but I felt it glossed over when moving to HA os. I was coming from Docker so I had to move my config, but when I got to the terminal for the HA operating system I couldn't figure out any commands to navigate the file structure or move files around. I ended up installing the Samba share add-on, stopping core, moving the files over, and restarting core. Full Steps: 1. Stop old HA container 2. Make a copy of the config directory. (docker files were easily accessible on a network share) 3. Start up new HA VM 4. Change IP to be the same as old HA in the new HA's WebUI. 5. Install and configure Samba Share add-on 6. Run "core stop" cmd on the HA terminal 7. Replace contents of config folder with old config files via the Samba Share. 8. Run "core start" cmd on HA terminal.

[@danielleong9535]

Just wanted to add my kudos for this set of very clear and simple instructions for migrating HA from one host machine to another! I had started using HA on a virtual machine running on a 7-year-old Windows desktop, but my ZigBee USB stick would cut out intermittently (seems like the USB port was too rusted) and Windows would occasionally restart for updates in the middle of the night, taking down my whole setup. And I'd just gotten to the point of convincing my whole family to come along with the ride on HA! So this weekend I finally took the plunge to transfer HA to a Proxmox VM running on a refurbished mini PC to cut out the uncertainty from Windows. Your video gave me the confidence to do it, and it all works perfectly!

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Awesome Daniel, glad to hear it was useful! Thanks for leaving a comment!

[@andreasfrosig]

Thank you for having so thorough guides, basically a list of everything to keep an eye out for! I am hopefully migration from RPI3 to vm in proxmox in a week or so, so this little reminder of tricks is very convenient.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Thanks Andreas and thank you so much for your support here and on Patreon, very much appreciate it! Let me know how the migration goes!

[@andreasfrosig]

​@@EverythingSmartHome After struggling with getting the components, proxmox not having the network drivers and other issues, the entire migration of home assistant, and setting it up as you suggested (i could not previously as i was using rpi3) took less that an hour, and went off without any issues :D

[@GMatje59]

Great video. Helped me a lot. I had my HomeAssistant running on a Raspberry pi 3b with a 32GB sd card. It ran since 3 years without major problems. This week I bought a HA Green and followed your advices, thanks for that. I used the button update from backup. A few things which took me somewhat longer to solve were: 1) duckdns configuration. The install screen kept on producing nice rounds...After 3 hours I discovered that some automations worked. So I closed the install window and it took me sometime to find the new IP adres and to get the login screen again. After a change of the forward from the duckdns domain to my local address on my router it finally worked. 2) Missing Bluetooth on the green, luckily I had a M5stack lying around where I could install bluetooth proxy on. 3) ESP Home on my sidebar did not start up, but devices depending ESPhome were still running. Don't know exactly what I did but it works now (sidebar display is gone though)

[@AlanBunch]

I moved from a KVM vm to barebones x86 hardware and it happened just as you said. Wait and trust the process. Thank you so much.

[@Ian-yt6kv]

Unfortunately I have had to restore from a previous backup in the past due to HA dying on me. Thankfully it just works. I'm using the Google Snapshot add-on. Extremely useful. I have it automatically backup at 9am every morning. In addition, as I'm using HA as VM in Proxmox, every weekend I have Promox run a backup to a Proxmox Backup VM on my Unraid server. So I have that extra level security should things go drastically pear shaped. Once again a very good video. It's good to see I'm doing things the right way.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Thanks Ian! Definitely sounds like you are on the right track there!

[@rvdp]

Wow, the https tip made my day! After the second 'failed' VM install attempt I watched your video and yes ... https .... I found the perfect restore there already up and running. Thanks for the great video! 😎👍

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Awesome, glad it was useful!

[@alejandrortl]

Great video. Congrats. Now that free Google fotos finish, I guess a nice video could be about some foto backup add on or docker. Thanks as always

[@andiherzog]

Currently using core on Synology and I'm very happy that the 2022.4 update brought snapshots to core so I can now (hopefully) easily move to a Pi.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Definitely a nice upgrade for you!

[@andiherzog]

@@EverythingSmartHome thanks! I've managed to get a Pi and the transition was perfectly easy and flawless. All I've set up wouldn't have been that easy without your tutorials so thanks a lot for doing these!

[@tweebs1]

Amazing, your timing couldn't be better. My IoTStack script installation of HA in a container on a RPi4 SSD is a little wonky. I'm trading the flexibility for stability and going full HA OS on RPi4 w/SSD.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Ah nice glad I could help! Let me know how that goes, be interesting to see!

[@joeryvandevloet2169]

When i do this can i just unplug my conbee stick, place it in the new one, Install the back up and all my zigbee devices still work?

[@ScottMenzer]

I have a sonoff not conbee, but that's what I did and it was fine. Just had to pass through the USB device in proxmox to the VM

[@TechWeb68]

Very logical and clear video as usual. I have quite a few recalcitrant errors in my logs I can't seem to understand or get rid of. Could you please share any wisdom in how to go about go about doing that?

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Thanks appreciate it! If depends what they are really, join the discord and I'm sure we can get you sorted out!

[@streetwiztech5505]

Great Video as always.. fella.. I shall be doing pretty much exactly this from my Pi to my blue (if it ever arrives)

[@EverythingSmartHome]

You should be good to go with the first proceedure!

[@wilson87j]

I could of done with this video a week ago when migrating to a vm in unraid! I got there in the end with my back up, but was a much longer work around! Great content as always! Have you had a play with room assistant yet? Would be a great video! Probably my next project when I get round to it. Keep up the good work!

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Haha sorry about that, maybe for next time! I have, I've had the hardware since January to make the video, but the install process is just kinda meh for me at the moment for showing other people which keeps delaying the video. I started planning it again this week but put it off. I'll get to it soon haha!

[@wilson87j]

@@EverythingSmartHome I feel you! I've had the hardware sat round to migrate from pi to nuc running unraid for about 2 months now... Project commitment issues 😂 I've order 3 pi zero w to play around with room assistant. Maybe I'll hold out for you or wait until the next rubbish spell of British weather! Keep up the good work 💪🏻

[@ajayassani9413]

Hi Great video thank you. Wanted to ask if intel nuc intall is same a using mini pc. Thank you

[@wagnerfontes2]

Thanks for another great video! I was just thinking... By the method you explain, starting from a VM under Windows, I still would have to reinstall a few things before restoring HA. Wouldn't it be easier to make a snapshot of the VM, or even an image of the entire Windows HD by using a Linux flash drive (dd or another image software)? I guess that would be a one-step restoring and the only drawback would be the need of a larger backup media.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Hmm that's not a very efficient way to do it IMO!

[@werethless12]

Love that you explain the same thing at least 3 times, then circle back to it again and explain another 2 times. Great use of time.

[@adsadam1]

Holy shit the HTTPS tip saved me so much! I was wondering why it was taking so long on a VM...

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Nice!

[@uSlackr]

Good tutorial. Please let us know if your real world practice changes anything. I have a Blue on order and will be moving from my VM install in time.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Thanks Greg, will do!

[@robertjackson771]

I have done this in the past. I had it running on a raspberry pi and it died on me. So I went with a virtual machine running on a synology nas. It has been flawless ever sense.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Good to here Robert, that's a pretty big upgrade!

[@BruceGou]

what about the zwave and zigbee usb stick devices

[@ScottMenzer]

Just plug them into the new host and it should work. If your new host is promox, make sure to pass through those usb devices to the VM and restart.

[@stephenmorley5295]

I am running Home Assistant 2023.8.4 and do not have a supervisor menu anymore, where can I now take snapshots?

[@benniphx]

Hi first of thx for the great video. But one question I followed your other videos and also installed MariaDB and now thinking what is with my normal now scheduled backups in case there is a problem and I had no time to do a manual snapshot with before stopping MariaDB? how can I then restore?

[@GerhardAEUhlhorn]

There is no Supervisor on my Home Assistant (Docker).

[@Bertjegassel1]

Thanks for the great video. I am looking into changing my setup from my Raspberry Pi 4 to Odroid N2+. Will my current set up with a conbee II (ZHA integration) migrate also without any problems? Or are there things to look out for? Thanks for answering! Keep up the good work :)

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

Which tasks do you use to exceed the Pi's performance? I'm just starting and thought that home assistant didn't use much resources.

[@davidyoung623]

Great video! I've been meaning to do this for awhile now, as I currently run Container on CoreELEC... Not the best setup in general, but I'm hoping soon I can get around to moving to a full Linux OS instead, and this video helped out a lot!

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Thanks David, appreciate it! Hope your migration goes well when you come to doing it!

[@davidyoung623]

@@EverythingSmartHome Hey, it went almost perfectly! I had a little snag getting my other containers going again, but all good now 👍👍

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Nice well done!

[@kevinlowe2466]

I managed to follow most of what you were saying, thanks for an informative tutorial. I'm concerned about the SD card failing on my RPi3 rather than wanting to migrate to another instance. I had assumed using a new SD card with a copy of Home Assistant and uploading the latest snapshot (saved to my Chromebook) would restore my set-up if/when the current SD card fails. I also assume that I would have no issues with needing to modify URLs etc as the RPi3 would not have changed. Am I correct in my assumptions?

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Sounds about right yes, you may want to consider an SSD rather than another SD card though!

[@kevinlowe2466]

@@EverythingSmartHome Good point - this is the first time I've used an RPi and my first faltering steps with Home Assistant. I guess I would need to improve the power supply too. I'll check out what it would take to make the switch. Thanks again.

[@andreapastore4009]

Thank you , great guide as always. I am trying to migrate my home assistant (to which I connect via duckdns) from sd to ssd, using the same Raspberry Pi4. Everything goes well until I try to restore previous snapshot : at this point home assistant loses the connection. Now, I understood the https problem well, but there is no way to reconnect, also because when I look at the list of my LAN devices in the modem, my HA installation no longer exists and so it remains for hours and hours and hours. Any advice on where i should check? Thank you so much

[@rob1971]

Good luck with your upcoming migration Lewis! What platforms are you moving between?

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Thanks Rob! I'll probably move from one Supervised install to another - I've been on "unsupported" Ubuntu install for a long time so I'll probably move to Debian just to get rid of the annoying warning 😂

[@mmaster23]

@@EverythingSmartHome Same here.. I also get an unhealthy state error once in a while whilst on Ubuntu which breaks the updater etc. Moving to Debian in a few weeks.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Haha pretty much the only reason I'm moving is to get rid of the message, otherwise works perfectly!

[@josephgeorge3204]

Lewis hello :) As always a well explained video. I did a migration from Rpi3 to Rpi4 recently. After the migration, my Sonoff tasmota flashed Zigbee bridge failed to connect. I think it has something to do with the RPI MAC ID because when I use the old hardware socket connection is successful. Any comments about this?

[@EsotericArctos]

Is the MariaDB option still worth while with all he recent changes to the SQLite DB structure? Does it still make a big performance increase on any of the platforms?

[@DOSIRL]

Hi Lewis, I know this video is old, but can I do a full restore (rather than a Partial) if moving from a Pi3 to a Pi4? I gave it one attempt and it didn't work and I was missing lots of different things. I thought that I couldn't restore the Home Assistant details as they are different installs on both Pi's? I don't fancy recreating all of my automations and dashboards again.

[@DOSIRL]

I installed the OS from the Raspberry Pi installer for the Pi4, then I logged in using a new person and restored the full backup (basically followed your example). Once I had the IP address changed everything seemed to work perfectly again. Thanks again for the video.

[@joostdevriesede]

Hi, great video! I am thinking of switching from HA Supervised Docker to HA OS. A long time ago i used the docker method as that was advised by HA at the time. But annoyingly i am getting all kinds of messages that my OS is not supported. A bit weird because i used the complete off the shelf images HA provided earlier. Apparently they don't auto upgrade it when needed and now say that i am running things that are not supported... I am not really that good with linux and all the commands. So the snapshot method really makes sense for me. Just flash a new SSD with the HA OS image and then import the snapshot. Will that work for me in my case? I am running InfluxDB, Grafana, NodeRed, ESPhome and Glances. I will be keeping the same hardware (Raspberry Pi 4 running of a SSD instead of the SD card). Any additional tips before i'll try this nerve recking operation :-) Oh, 1 last question. I didn't knew the snapshot worked this good. I always assumed that you'll lose certain (historical) data or config or whatever. Is it truely a complete backup of everything that you did and configured in you HA?

[@sujaysa]

Hey, I am running HA OS on a standalone mini PC, I now want to host it inside a docker image, how can I restore without any loss ? Please help me.

[@coin777]

5:30 nothing happens when i check my backup file

[@Palanril]

Hi! I've tried a Synology to RaspPi migration... Using the manual way, as Synology (Core) does not expose Export feature. Actually, once the config folder moved from one to other system, I just can't sign in on the new instance! Account is corrupted is some way. Be carefull when trying this ! You will need some more actions to restore the stuff (which I did not yet managed to apply): reset the account password :P

[@Palanril]

For some reasons, the user reset command did not worked. I reflashed my target device and copied again the whole /config folder BUT some files (./storage/ auth*, hassio, onboarding and cloud). Then I could reconnect to my target instance and everything worked (after some IP and setup update). Thanks for this video which gave me the push to improve my HA setup!

[@bipster]

I'm thinking of moving my Pi 3 install to a virtual linux install and realized the UI has changed quite a bit since this video. I think much of it is the same, but listed in different locations. Where might I go to install from my snapshot if I don't use it during the initial set up?

[@soumynonareverse7807]

Could you show us a basic install of supervised and how to maintain it? I once installed it successfully on a Debian VM juzt to see how it works, but as soon as I restarted Debian it didn't connect to my smartphone.

[@nics8040]

@Everything Smart Home Whats the easiest way to upgrade to a bigger a sd card? I am using a pi 4 and maxed out. my 32 gb sd.

[@bishamsingh1490]

Hi Lewis, thanks again for all your help and great videos. Dumb question, I am moving from SD to SSD following your video, of course, I have a 32 bit backup and the new install is 64 bit, do I restore full backup or partial excluding the Home Assistant OS. Thank in advance.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Thanks! Full backup should work perfectly!

[@bishamsingh1490]

@@EverythingSmartHome wow!! thanks for your prompt reply.

[@bishamsingh1490]

Just did it... all is well....thanks again 🤙🤙

[@okanerdem]

If we are using automatic bacup, how can we stop and start maria db?

[@SweUnpoor]

This is old info!, I moved from a pie 3 to a pie 4 and also to a ssd, only a FULL restore gave me back everyting, if a skipped the Home Assitant (version) then it didnt replace my dummy login and it was empty, after 4 tries with partial restore some stuff turned up, like 5 lamps with old names, Soo I thought wath the hell Ill restore all since it wasent working anyways, (going from 3 to 4) and waited for 10 minutes, my entire backup is 3 MB, and then powerrebooted the pie and then it was all ok???

[@okanerdem]

How can i access to my mariadb database from computer? I want to connect with a software but i dont know how can i do. Could you please shov with a video if it's possible? Also can we use mariadb and influx DB in the same time? I think or grafana, we have to use influx db am i right?

[@carloslema5400]

Well, sorry to tell ya that restoring a Pi4 backup in a NUC didn't work. None of the Add-ons work. Any ideas?

[@AlonsoVPR]

Tried to migrate my docker config to a fresh HASSIO vm... no luck :(

[@tattingstoneplace]

I don’t have a supervisor menu option?

[@DeMoNiUm26]

Hi, your video was very good, i just have 1 question: i have HA installed on my RPI4 using Debian-Supervised-Docker, if i follow your procedure is gonna be ok? i mean installing HA-OS and then uploading the old backup on it? or i need to install again Debian + Supervised + Docker?

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Hello, you can migrate doing this method he's 😅

[@DeMoNiUm26]

@@EverythingSmartHome sorry I didn't understand... Need to install again through Debian supervisor or I can do it in the same way you did on video? Tnx

[@MzumOritz]

Hi Everybody, since I had problems with it, I just migrated my server from ubuntu mate to ubuntu minimal. I have docker running with mosquitto, zigbee2mqtt and home assistant. I backuped up all config and yaml files, but after restarting, neither my device list in zigbee2mqtt nor my devices, integrations or automations in home assistant appear. Has anyone a suggestion or an idea, what to do about it?

[@DigitalArchmage]

at 1:07 you pointed to the corner to link to the backup tutorial, but youtube didn't show me the card. Have a link? I'd watch that video :) (oh it came up like 10 seconds later!)

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Yes sorry got the timings slightly wrong as I had to add them from memory earlier and didn't have any audio to sync it with 😂

[@DigitalArchmage]

@@EverythingSmartHome It's all good! I paused to watch that video and got backups turned on.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Nice, that will be a relief!

[@fabioamado6725]

I will migrate rpi4 hass os to rpi4 supervised in raspberry os. The main purpose is to user rpi4 to another things. Will i encounter any problem or a simply backup and restore will take care of everything? Thank you

[@fabioamado6725]

Hello? Can you please help?

[@PennyAfNorberg]

I plan to migrate from rpi 3 to rpi 5 soon

[@user-zr7kz4vs7c]

Any tips on converting 32 bit home assistant to 64 bit on raspberry pi? Thanks

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Sure just follow the backup and restore procedure - there is a video on the channel

[@user-zr7kz4vs7c]

@@EverythingSmartHome Thanks 🙏🏻

[@yunzpiano5182]

There is no supervisor mode in my HA.

[@nightlife311]

Hi, is it correct that HA recently changed snapshot into backups? I just started using HA and in supervisor I have backups instead of snapshot. I looks very much the same in the supervisor tab, just a different word. I'm now using supervisor-2021.10.8

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Yes that's right, all that changed was the word, it still works the exact same

[@nightlife311]

@@EverythingSmartHome thanks for your quick reply :), saves me some time looking for this snapshot. I have another question on backup, perhaps something for an episode. If you are running HA OS in a virtual machine (like I'm doing on my synology NAS), what would be the difference between setting up a backup plan in HA, versus using the backup/snapshop feature of your virtual machine manager. Especially since the latter is much easier to set-up? Just for security, this would work of course if you want to migrate HA to e.g. a rasp pi.

[@EverythingSmartHome]

Please do not confuse VM snapshots as backups - they aren't and should never be kept for more than 24 hours. That should give you a point if reference to start googling 😅

[@nightlife311]

@@EverythingSmartHome Thanks, I see your point. Making an actual backup of the virtual machine may be more what I had in mind, but there is no simple way to do this in DSM (need to export first), so this will not make it easier than backing up HA itself. Learned something new today :)

[@euronymous85pl]

ANY installation? Great! But what with CORE version? ;) I'm currently trying to migrate CORE to SUPERVISED. And it's a pain in the... Ofcourse tried to migrate files&directories - with different results xD http 404 not found on every url, multiple errors in logs... unmeet system dependencies (missing proper GCC, etc) ;)

[@EverythingSmartHome]

It's described in this video...simply copy across the config folder!

[@dirkdaems8691]

Is it possible to script & schedule on hass.io automatic to stop the MariaDB, make full snapshot, restart MariaDB, export to backup snapshot to NAS share?

[@EverythingSmartHome]

I'm sure it would be possible to script it sure!

[@seijirou302]

Curious, is this still valid?

[@cozmacray]

How to do with only ONE raspberry pi 4

[@EverythingSmartHome]

The exact same way!

[@brianh.4185]

Take a breath and slow down your explanations.