Mike Rowe warns there's a ‘giant reckoning’ coming for higher ed

MikeRoweWorks Foundation CEO Mike Rowe examines problems facing American families when paying for child care and considering higher education. #foxnews
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[@debbieforhim7800]

My son never liked college and ended up getting trained as an electrician. He's now a project manager for a LARGE company and earning 6 figures. I'm a proud mama!!!

[@joshualunceford5182]

at my company you work your way up from apprentice to lead to service tech to pm. You get taken under the wing of another pm for a while its no different than being under the wing of a lead or journeyman my guy

[@jenscheibner792]

Sons are in skilled trades... No college debt to pay off...

[@yt-user03561]

Wow companies that will actually TRAIN you on the job instead of leaving it to the schools where you have to sit in a classroom not making money.

[@mattm9619]

Guys making six figures in the trades are the exception and an extreme minority of tradesmen. Most of them slave for their corporate overlords while getting paid the bare minimum these companies can get away with. MEN stay away from the trades nothing but a grind and and a racket Not worth it go into medical or something rewarding.

[@esoterictransmissions]

How many friends across the country do they have?

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

I have felt for the past 40 years that the higher education establishment is northing more than a money machine.

[@Kim-sq9gp]

That’s literally the entire point of a for-profit system. That’s why we’ve been saying we should socialize higher education like Europe and China have done. Imagine people going to college for something they’re actually interested in doing with their life instead of just trying to get a return on their investment.

[@virginiahunt357]

It's for training obedient , people who will never question the government.

[@lucillejerome5511]

Agree! When they began adding degrees to jobs/professions that really didn't need the BA and then upped some to a MA or even a Ph.D. I knew we were in trouble. And then, 2 year programs became 4 year programs - again it was unnecessary. Something they accomplished was to keep people from adulting and entering the workforce - that is now in more trouble than ever.

[@maidenminnesota1]

It only got that way after the federal government took over the student loan industry, making them all "guaranteed". You no longer have to be smart to get in to college or even be able to read, and certainly not to get a loan you can't pay back. When the banking system held student loans, they could deny you. The government stepped in, and the colleges wanted a piece of that sweet government pie. That's when the downfall began.

[@dustinhinson2117]

Most college degrees aren't worth the pieces of paper they're written on.

[@The-Capitalist]

My father was a high school drop out that took a job for a small company working construction. He eventually started his own company and after 22 years sold it for close to 100 million. Do not correlate higher education with success and higher intelligence.

[@barbarabonnette2705]

I couldn’t agree with you more, but all,of us were brainwashed into believing that higher education would help you attain a better job. I graduated from a two year college in 1975….Consequently, Ive never used my degree for any job that I had. Even when my sons went to college, the admissions office promised placement in the workforce after graduation …….which was a good selling point, but terribly misleading. The lie was told to perpetuate and continue to mislead students and their parents. It is a shameful scam.

[@wesjimez2941]

Yeah education is taught by a bunch of Marxists that don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[@deva190]

Very few people have that ingenuity and drive in today's instant gratification society. Some do but most don't.

[@The-Capitalist]

@@deva190 Most believe everything should be given to them without sacrificing something.

[@yt-user03561]

The high failure rate even including those who may have subjectively tried hard enough is not encouraging either. With how much competition there is now success demands as close to perfection as you're going to get. Simply working hard at it wont be enough anymore, although we might wish that it would.

[@horsedr4197]

While the cost of college is an obstacle, much of the problem with higher education is all the fluff classes you have to take to get a degree. There's no need to take half the classes required for a bachelors.

[@chrisaguilera1564]

How is this sustainable? Answer: it's not. Insanity leads to a reckoning.

[@sandybruce9092]

And the professors are more than propagandizing their woke attitudes -

[@thearbitersteven6503]

Fitting these classes with fluff as well. NO TRAINING. They don't really show you the experience that you need for the job. It's better to go off on your own and save your money.

[@KFontLab]

This I absolutely agree with. When I was in college the first 2 years are basics… basically what you did your junior and senior year of High School. I still work in Higher Ed and I tell my students to go to a Tech school first then transfer if necessary. Its much better as far as cost is concerned. All the jobs I have gotten you have to have at least a Bachelor’s degree.

[@cheryltamelcoff2557]

Exactly. You don’t need to retake the history, English, math, that you took and passed in high school. Take the classes you only need for your degree and be done

[@HollyTheTwisterSister]

My time in college was a joke. Everything I actually needed to know to make a living I learned on my own. For free.

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

What did you study?

[@HollyTheTwisterSister]

@@MeneTekelUpharsin education degree. When I saw the next generation of teachers I knew right then I would homeschool if I ever had kids. And that’s what I’ve done lol

[@thisismagacountry1318]

​@HollyTheTwisterSister There's a good market in high end private tutoring. Start your own business with an EIN, an LLC, and business insurance. Overcharge because rich people equate high costs with quality. Just remember, they're usually a pain in TA. 😂

[@RichardMitchell-nk9ec]

The thing about it it's like college is better but then you have to have like magic powers on top of that kinda like jeff bezos did

[@seamusesparza1943]

Didn't you have to eat and have some place to sleep on your own time? Or did you go into statis while you learned on your own "for free"?

[@rconach]

I stayed home to raise our child, who was born in 1988. We lived lean, only eating out on our birthdays and wedding anniversary, no take out, no vacations, no cable or satellite TV, very small house, two older vehicles. Yet these were some of the happiest years of our lives!

[@jeffk464]

Yeah, cut expenses

[@wczo]

Public schools are full of woke teachers, private schools, or home school is your best route .

[@user-gg7jb1pr1s]

Absolutely Best Days, No Debt living within your means is TRUE FREEDOM

[@user-ef3nu1eh7z]

I had my chillens 1986-90 took wife and I 6 years to learn how another 6 to forget!!!!!!lollol🖖🖖

[@johndymond4596]

Lol I read this the first time as you only ate on your birthdays. Was like wow that's rough

[@Mark36896]

My wife and I collectively have seven degrees, which include three masters and two doctorates. Our son didn’t want to go to a four year school. We said fine. He’s happy in his job. College is a waste of time for a lot of kids, probably the majority.

[@brianmatthews9697]

I've been a carpenter for 40 years. I was in the USAF for 6 years, own my own home and have no debt. I don't live large, but life is good. My dad told me "you better learn to like work, you're going to do a lot of it" I do enjoy working and I hope I never retire.

[@kimleone5496]

These higher education institutions are nothing more than wasted fluff. You used to go to college to learn how to be a doctor or a lawyer or an architect. Something actually required extra knowledge. Useless degrees are being handed out. You have college students with degrees working at Starbucks. This must stop. Executives requiring a 4-year degree for entry level jobs is a ridiculous waste of money.

[@g.t.richardson6311]

I can think of a few hundred more, but you have a point

[@rjm656]

I mean, you still do have to go to college for those jobs. And people still do, or you wouldn't be able to visit a doctor or hire a lawyer now. Philosophy degrees have existed for ages, and those people waste money today like they did 40 years ago, the difference is that today it costs a fortune and is an even bigger mistake to make versus our parents' day when that mistake could be rectified in a few years of work. Now it's lifelong debt.

[@oliviawalker3022]

If you look at newer entry-level postings in corporate America, there's been a move to remove college requirements, replacing it with the necessary experience.

[@nuclearwessels2078]

​@oliviawalker3022 Depending on where you look. I have a degree and experience, and a lot of the job ads have degree required or degree preferred but only want to pay 15 or under an hour.

[@lifestylelove2651]

But yet you get a Bachelors and they are offering you 15-18 dollars a hrs?...that's crazy ....each state wage is different but company's are not paying degree persons like that

[@sari5045]

Both my grown adult children are not having children because they can hardly get by with just themselves and one of my kids has 2 bachelor degrees and has a “good” job. The system in this country is NOT working for the people AT ALL. What it’s actually doing is harming us and our children. It’s time to say NO MORE

[@secondchance6603]

I have four adult children, 3 girls and 1 boy who never intend having children. Once upon a time the chances of that would be highly unlikely and sad to say they are being outbred by people that hate them, their country, its culture religion and history.

[@YoutubeShadowCensors]

How is it a “good” job if they can’t afford to live or have kids?

[@teret6719]

The jobs pay well. That doesn't mean they can keep up with the overinflated costs associated with living in today's economy. Get it? @@KZbinShadowCensors

[@Tankeryanker339]

​@KZbinShadowCensors I'm wondering the same thing, my wife stays at home with the kids, and I'm just a truck driver.

[@fartemisfartmallow8647]

It’s helping bums tho.

[@vinerwe]

I am a doctor and saw first hand the steep rise in tuition costs. Many of my adult friends are tradespeople or farmers. They are better off financially than I am. I would strongly encourage people look at learning a trade and opening their own business.

[@firebir11]

Smart advice ☝

[@jamessteele7102]

What kind of degree do you have?

[@LuisFlores-mc2tc]

I guess we will be buiness owners and we will all get business loans to start our businesses

[@Colbmtrent5]

I'm 30 and made the mistake of going to college with no direction right out of HS. Changed majors a few times and finally finished ,while consistently working a min wage job full time job, after 8 years. had 50k worth of debt, and went to a 1 year tech program for hvac and am able to slowly pay off my debt while saving some and learning a skill that will be needed forever.

[@rocksandoil2241]

Good luck to you and don't get discouraged. There is always a lot of serendipity to our lives that we never really knew to prepare for.

[@dreamwell2020]

Authoritarian regimes generally target education.

[@richardmesser1091]

Trump likes his voters dumb

[@RacecarSpelledBackwards71]

Correct, they must control education in order to brainwash generations of youth into lenininist/marxist/communist ideology while their brains are so soft & without challenge from patriotic Americanism them end up being a typical useful idiot like you.

[@polardiscoball]

the storm is farting

[@markburton5292]

well Mike roe is not the government so he is not part of an authoritarian regime,. but you are right in that is how it happens and that is what the left has been targeting for years and now our education is a laughing stock. They are creating weak mined people that if you tell them something they don't like cry about micro aggression and the need for a safe. They don't want to work. they have debts up the wazzo, have the idea that the world belongs to them and that only they are right. They cant define simple things, cant do critical thinking, or decide if they are male or female today. so yeah we are going to have some bad times.

[@YoutubeShadowCensors]

Trump loves the uneducated. Easiest to scam.

[@henryc1000]

With the maturity level of most college students these days I would include college tuition as being a part of childcare costs.

[@dumbasscunt441]

Lel

[@nhmooytis7058]

Amen!

[@rl8571]

The most successful college kids in America are not from an American university.

[@government_costumes-ui5lx]

Lol yeah boomer your maturity level wasn't any better. Go back to Woodstock.

[@nhmooytis7058]

@@rl8571 US colleges are mostly hideously expensive playpens.

[@brega6286]

Problem with stay at home parent is that, they do not get credit for social security and in event of a divorce, that parent winds up as a low fixed income senior. In many cases the stay at home parent has not established a good enough "work record" to be able to make up for those years. I would not give up the time spent with my children at all but it hurts realizing I got no "credit" for those years. The courts do not respect it. Add up the childcare hours, the housekeeping, the services and savings ....but no future financial security and it is demeaning.

[@apollovizsla]

I grew up with a stay-at-home mom and even though we didn't have a luxurious lifestyle, we had her, and I wouldn't trade that for anything! We enjoyed simple pleasures like taking walks, riding bikes and going swimming in the river near our house. I always tell people that if a stay-at-home mother's salary was based on all of the jobs that she did and the time she spent doing them, she would be the wealthiest person in the world! Even if a woman works outside the home, a lot of companies don't take them seriously because they think that you will have to miss work a lot to take care of their children if they are home sick and can't be in school, since that responsibility usually falls on the woman.

[@sammencia7945]

Divorce? Women file 70% to 85% of the time. She is poor due to her own choice. Stay married.

[@platinum11110]

​@@sammencia7945 no, nobody should stay married if they don't want to.

[@kpdub189]

I'm a millenial. We grew up being told "the high paying manufacturing jobs are gone, you better go to college." I have a STEM degree so I did okay, but many of my peers who decided to get other degrees are out of luck. I'm fine with high schools preparing kids for college, but they should also prepare you to start a business, manage finances, among other things because not everyone needs/should go to college.

[@saxon6]

High schools SHOULD teach those things but they are simply warehousing kids, not teaching them anything

[@fhamilton6788]

Millennial too... when to trade school I make 54 a hour. My husband only high school education he makes 24 a hr we are doing great. He have no debt.

[@pianoman3255]

​@@saxon6my dad taught me all of that stuff. Why do parents think offloading their parental responsibilities on teachers make sense?

[@sammencia7945]

You were stupid enough to do as you were told. I was thinking for myself by age 17.

[@kpdub189]

​@@sammencia7945how has that worked out for you?

[@Antioche]

This was 100% as intended. Break up the families, get income tax from two breadwinners in every household. Cause inflation enough to take 45% of their income to provide housing. Allow the children to be "raised" by the state & state approved authorities.

[@noeeon9910]

That is the beast system at work in a fallen world.

[@indydave1849]

You are Sooo correct! Why settle for 1 tax income source when you can tax 2 incomes..

[@lucillejerome5511]

Said very well in only two sentences!

[@axe2grind244]

100000% accurate. Unfortunately I live in one of the 2 headed monster that is NY and California aka the biggest thieves in the universe.

[@damianstachelski775]

Their depopulation agenda is going according to plan.

[@donnaclemence5161]

I think( ..meaning my opinion only.) That not everyone is meant for college. Half of America should learn a trade. I'm a 60 yr old woman and a drywall finisher by trade. My son Troy can do anything you throw at him. My daughter Charlene can finish a house out. We work hard and love life

[@jmfa57]

You are absolutely right.

[@sikugord03]

Same here in the UK. My husband learned a trade with minimal college. He’s a plumber. Had an apprentership. Majority of my family are tradesmen and women, earning a decent wage.

[@j81851]

Bravo I commend you all you are my heros

[@tracyripple]

@@j81851 Education is like size and money. The only people who say they don't matter are those who never had any.

[@ohsweetmystery]

Unless you are an engineer, scientist or doctor, university is useless.

[@zaamrod50]

Mike Rowe is absolutely right. I’m a college professor, and I absolutely assure you that today, a college degree means almost nothing. Covid changed education forever. During Covid, if a student enrolled in a college course, they passed that course. Period…and not by accident. Administrators encouraged (urged, demanded, screamed) that faculty display “grace” and simply pass every student by virtue of enrollment. Today, most of my English colleagues don’t even grade essays, and that’s IF they assign them in the first place. Some colleges, like Estrella Mountain Community College in Arizona, don’t assign essays at all in Eng 101 and 102. I actively advise my students to learn a trade and start their lives. I cannot in good conscience continue to perpetuate the lie that they are going to end up better off with a college degree. With the level of indoctrination that occurs today, in fact, they’re going to end up worse.

[@user-zx8ri1we7j]

I went to college for two years without a degree. At forty, I started a custom sewing business that was so successful I used that money to pay for my children’s college education. A couple of years into my business, I asked my husband if I should go back and get a business degree and he said no that I was already applying the principles already.

[@davidsandy5917]

Very Good For You. Remember that the founders of many large corporations never finished college or started their businesses out of their garages.

[@alphaomega354]

Might be worth taking accounting courses at a CC.

[@richardmesser1091]

Might want to improve public school in the US , they are pretty poor

[@patrikbee]

The children of MAGA Republicans are dumb due to their MAGA parents ignorance 😢

[@chestermarcol3831]

Fix the parents, and you fix the schools...

[@robertlucas5090]

Their idea for ages is just throwing more money at the problem and it is well known when they get the money it doesn't go to the attended target in many public schools. Come on the Pentagon can't even pass an audit that should tell you everything you need to know.

[@YoutubeShadowCensors]

Republicans have been slashing school funding for decades. You’re seeing the outcome now. But they want you to go to private school

[@virginiahunt357]

The product of, the college education.

[@caseycooney1753]

Rowe is such a legend! I could listen to his voice all day!

[@ConnieA1262]

@@BOBANDVEG Lmaoooooooooooo Wow.

[@ConnieA1262]

He is really!

[@ronaldnelson6692]

@caseycooney1753 If you like listening to him, he narrates the show How the Universe Works on Science channel.

[@ConnieA1262]

@@BOBANDVEG So. Is that a bad thing? I don't understand your opinion but it is yours and that is OK.

[@ConnieA1262]

@@BOBANDVEG What he is saying is true. These young people are spending huge amounts of money and in debt up to their ears paying for an over priced education and could make more from skilled trades. Do your research. 2 years of trade school for not even a quarter of the price of college and then 2+ years on the job training making fantastic money.

[@davidsandy5917]

It has been a while, but this is my recollection. I went to a "name brand University" Virginia Tech, in the 1970's. I earned a degree in Engineering. It was paid for by scholarships, grants, and income I earned working during the summer. I left VT with about $3,000 of student loan debt. That was paid after a year. What is different today? The government got involved.

[@kareltracy]

My dad was saying, around 1990, that when he had gone to school, there was less money available for that, but what was available was less of a hassle to get. He thought that he would have been way less likely to go to school without the GI bill (starting in 1946).

[@irenelathrop8062]

What is different today is lack of work ethic, which is learned early on in the family’

[@nuclearwessels2078]

​@@irenelathrop8062 Nah. I was looking at getting a masters to make it in this economy, and it costs 50,000-80,000 for a degree in speech language pathology. I don't want to die in debt, so I'm working on some certs instead. No wonder we have shortages in medical professions. Who has tens of thousands of dollars laying around for the education?

[@darthhodges]

I make $40k a year while my wife stays at home with our 4 kids. Even with three of them in school most days for her to go out and get a job would probably cost us more in childcare than she would make. But even if she made as much or more than I do, what's the point in having kids if you're just going to pay someone else to raise them for you?

[@matthewmorse3307]

Can I ask how you support a wife and 4 kids on $40k a year? That legitimately doesn’t even seem a little possible.

[@darthhodges]

@@matthewmorse3307 I live in central Missouri, close to the lowest cost of living in the United States. If I lived in any major city or close to either ocean what I make wouldn't be anywhere close to enough.

[@lefthanded5473]

@@darthhodgesI’m sure your tax refund looks nice every year.

[@darthhodges]

@@lefthanded5473 My net tax rate was NEGATIVE 17% for 2023.

[@readaloudkids1407]

Good for you! Living frugally is a skill

[@ernestayo6131]

40 years ago I paid my wife what we were paying for child care to stay home and care for our children. She loved it! And we saved quite a bit on her overhead working expenses & taxes.

[@Deva-no3dn]

That’s because you’re a good and loving husband who values his wife and family. Men aren’t being brought up that way today.

[@nr12345]

@@Deva-no3dn BS. Thats what media wants you to believe. The Average married man is a loving husband and not the trailer trash abusive bs you keep seeing on media as if its the norm.

[@4dogsgaming]

Such nonsense paying your wife what, half of your salary that she's entitled to anyways.

[@Deva-no3dn]

@@nr12345 The media wants us to believe it? That’s reality. When I was growing up in the 50 s almost no one was divorced. The divorce rate today is 50%. Back then 20%.

[@greybushgames1]

I’m 47 and retired 7 years ago when my boy was born I told my wife she could stay home and we’d both raise our boy but she loves her job and decided she didn’t want to leave yet and stayed on part time..The money I saved on child care is astounding and we get to raise our son and see all the special moments in his life not some paid babysitter..

[@jamesdotson1080]

The trend that went on for maybe the last 40 years of requiring degrees for an ever increasing number of positions was insane. Add on how many promotions were almost entirely dependent on further education requirements instead of who can do the job best. It was engineered to create a huge for profit education system that has largely failed to do it's job.

[@virginiahunt357]

We are seeing the results of that policy. Everything is going downhill fast. Airplanes Falling apart. A government that hates most of the people.

[@thystaff742]

Don't forget women are given minority status and preferential treatment for higher education. This is why colleges are near 70% female now.

[@theenglishprofessor8411]

I taught high school for ten years before becoming a college professor at a 2-year college. One of the administrators at the high school was explaining to me how they were going to eliminate the industrial arts and shop classes we offered so that they could make the high school a “college prep” institution. I told her without batting an eye: “You’re making a mistake and within two decades the country will have a shortage of blue collar workers”. Here we are. I teach introductory courses in composition and I encourage every one of my students to limit classes in the liberal arts and focus on courses related to industry and blue collar professions. They can’t believe I’m not trying to persuade them to major in English.

[@wonderingwoman9977]

I went to college .... a community college in a very small town. I have my Associate's Degree and I worked hard to get it. I agree with their numbers.... the costs are outrageous! We need to do better for our kids and grandkids. We need to get these people out of office who are raising everything so high. The costs are inflated to line their pockets. That's all.

[@jonniiinferno9098]

the exorbitant rise in the cost of education began after the govt started guaranteeing student loans The federal government began guaranteeing student loans provided by banks and non-profit lenders in 1965 eventually - around 1982 - the College bean counters realized what a cash cow this was and BOOM year over year the cost of college started rising

[@chestermarcol3831]

Plumbers, electricians, welders will outearn the average college graduate (even with a postgrad degree) by probably 2 times, if I had to venture a guess. There is one hitch: You have to, you know, work...

[@winsomemartinez]

And that's great. But not everyone can or will become a tradesman. Plus, when competition becomes higher wages decline. Skilled trades cannot easily be outsourced though.

[@crucisnh]

@@winsomemartinezThat last sentence is a serious upside, though, i.e. outsourcing. As for not everyone becoming a tradesman, good. Overall, you don't want to overload the number of tradespeople, as that would lower their earning potential. Whether it's lawyers or plumbers, if you have too many of them, not everyone will be able to find work in their field.

[@franbrinda]

My teachers told me I would never amount to anything without college. I went to trade school and now make more than most of my college educated class mates. In fact some are still in debt paying for a master degrees they never used and work in something completely different than what they studied.

[@jeffwaite3874]

AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN THEY DONT WANT MASCULINITY WINNING IN THIS COUNTRY ANYMORE

[@MrBigspendn]

Hahaha hahaha. True. The infrastructure will fail without them.

[@houseoquinnizyodaddy]

As a Pipefitter of 20+ years I can totally back up everything Mike said. I've been able to raise 3 kids on a single income. The younger guys need to start getting their hands dirty if they wanna be able to move out of their parents basements.

[@davidwalker1763]

Absolutely.

[@curiousbystander9193]

move out of the basement so they can go give a landlord 45% of their monthly income?

[@davidglad]

South Park briefly gave away your secret, but luckily stupid people only thought the Panderverse was for cheap laughs

[@Crayfish-]

I know a Friend who Picked the " Wrong Occupation " ! He was a Union Carpenter. A very good worker, easy to get along with. But with the Economy, City & State Ordinances, and a Labor organization wedging itself between the labor force & the Employer(s) [ for it's own Existence, I assume ] / It Just didn't Pan out !

[@curiousbystander9193]

so the union assuring the wages was the issue?@@Crayfish-

[@Rashiedamichelle]

On several occasions I’ve had people mention in my area that some of the biggest millionaires around here are actually plumbing and electrical company owners. Even some of the employees make 50/hr+.

[@johnnywang206]

My babysitters when I was growing up was my siblings. Kids playing by themselves at the park was normal. Modern times is weird. We’ve become so weak and worried

[@DudeLove-ob1xo]

Mike Rowe is a great American!🇺🇸

[@RecordsLotus_]

MAGA = 💩💩💩

[@nonameissafer.8457]

How so?

[@nonameissafer.8457]

@@KurtLeroy-mx1xi he hasn’t worked a day in his trust fund life. Me personally I did 6 years of college and retired as a ship Captain. But sure.

[@Cool2023FtwNoice]

INdeed 💯

[@nonameissafer.8457]

@@KurtLeroy-mx1xi lmfao a writer and a speaker…. Wow such hard work to type and speak.

[@johnanderson1245]

For too many years higher ed had companies bamboozled into to thinking so many of their jobs required college degrees when they really don’t.

[@kareltracy]

Several large companies have recently announced changes to their degree requirements for some jobs.

[@logger4711]

I don’t have a degree. Went to college but realized the ridiculous amount of money I was wasting. I just turned 40 and am a millionaire who spent the last three years being a full time dad with my four year old. Hard work and thinking outside the box paid off.

[@1rich14]

What do you do sir?

[@mikusoxlongius]

I had 80 hr work weeks as an electrician and didn't earn 6 figures. Must be talking about New York or California.

[@mikelee6936]

Nope.

[@handlesrstupid123]

trades are the new racket just like you have to have a degree. You have to join the trades and make sure new blood can join the meat grinder most trades arr.

[@davidnelson6874]

Higher Ed is being part of a spoils system. It’s truly pathetic.

[@tracyripple]

Education is like size and money. The only people who say they don't matter are those who never had any.

[@BadEconomyOfficial]

@@tracyripple And those who never had any are probably making triple than what they make.

[@tracyripple]

@@BadEconomyOfficial That's what those who never had any generally say.

[@teret6719]

@@tracyripple that's your opinion, of which you're entitled to. You're entitled to be wrong.

[@tracyripple]

@@teret6719 See what I mean?

[@davidclark3304]

My father, who was a university professor, says the same thing.

[@winniethebubbly]

I’m in the military and get free college… I still think it’s stupid. I’m struggling to want to finish my bachelors. If I didn’t want to become a commissioned officer I wouldn’t go back. You can just tell how pointless the classes are now compared to even 10-20 years ago. No value to degrees anymore.

[@GeorgeBracht]

Great Vid Mike. 👍 I’m a machinist with 42 years experience, own my own shop running CNC & Manual machinery. I went to Trade School but 95% of what I know I learned on the job Wouldn’t trade it for a stack off Degrees 10 miles high

[@johnstanley1689]

You're money ahead to have a stay at home parent.

[@Mrs.WordSmith.GEN_8zero]

Stay @ home mom here … since having babies! ❤

[@jillhetherington6040]

best for kids too.

[@gg80108]

except repugs keep stripping benefits so you can do that.

[@kaspar_1982]

after listening to college age adults discussing and arguing at lectures i am firmly convinced they are on an emotional and maturity level of a lower 1970s middle schooler. both parents and educators are responsible for this cultural holocaust. remember the great generation? this is the worthless generation, but highly "credentialed".

[@jefesalsero]

Educated idiots.

[@sully2737]

I think you're giving them too much credit. 1970s middle schoolers had a higher level of both emotional maturity and intelligence than college students of today. Middle schoolers knew more history, math, and had better English language and writing skills as well. I think pre-schooler might be accurate, though.

[@guerillanewsfare267]

Yep!

[@Aeom_333]

The “great generation” LOL what a joke. You old people come here and try to gaslight people into thinking your generation was so great. Maybe it was great FOR YOU but no your generation was not that great.

[@jaw0449]

I teach at university…we’ve had to seriously lower our standards and it’s still not enough. The system absolutely failed these young adults

[@benc3336]

My wife and I pay $550 a week for our child under 2yo. And there is a waitlist for the Daycare.

[@mikelee6936]

WOW!

[@dzintrarowe4272]

I worked for a company for 40 years doing the same job which I liked. Great company, great benefits etc. In that time, that clerical job later required a college degree.

[@adamgarrick3778]

When I'm hiring, I might glance at their education. I want to see their experience and their job history. And given the way men are abandoning college, I'm surprised there isn't already a crisis.

[@Carolyn-wr9vy]

Unless you are going to be a doctor, vet, nurse, CPA, teacher or other professional college is a waste. My daughter worked for the health dept for 13 yrs and moved up to health agent without a degree. She took a state board exam and passed it with a 97. It was all those yrs of on the job knowledge. The town sent her to classes on food inspections and septic inspections and she aced the tests. I know many who have gone to college and never went into the job they studied for. The first 2 years of college is liberal arts which is a repeat of high school subjects.

[@jdtravels5140]

Mike Rowe…the voice of common sense.

[@sherlock1895]

I never understood why people have children and then pay someone to raise them. Just makes no sense to me. Cheers!

[@rembeadgc]

"Inflation is not limited to our economy." Monumentally crucial truth, on every level.

[@philipwhatley6742]

. Put vocational schools back into highschool and see how fast them college tuitions drop.

[@L5biszz]

im glad they interviewed someone without children. total sense.

[@bobroberts2371]

College requirements in job posting. Well, while the degree requirement might not be specifically listed , recruiters / hiring managers / HR departments will STILL favor degreed people over those with actual proven experience / talents.

[@l.5832]

Most resumes are read by computers. Trick them by saying you have an associate degree rather than diploma (same thing). In any cover letter work in the word 'degree' by using phrases like 'to a large degree' or 'a high degree of excellence' or some such nonsense. No one actually reads them. They just scan for words and phrases.

[@NSXavier997]

I’m Blue collar for life. Dirty hands, Clean money. I have fast cars, a house and money to invest. I know some people I went to high school with with college degrees that manage an Olive Garden….

[@ryanpennington3523]

That argument cuts both ways. I know a lot more people in construction that are borderline homeless or convicted felons.

[@tonylam9548]

The late Mr Honda said this and got into trouble with his teacher." A movie ticket will guarantee you getting into the theater, but a university guarantee nothing." or something to that effect.

[@dognextdoor]

Babysitters are minimum $20 an hour now. I might as well just leave work early and spend it with my kid otherwise I’m basically working for free.

[@FormerVicePresidentDickVeiny]

That's a good perspective to think about it from

[@nikogolagat7315]

My wife & I had to make a decision for her to be a SAHM since childcare basically took most her salary.

[@Denice340]

2 incomes is always better than one. Young children grow up and do after school activities. You will get pay raises and promotions. Good luck on one income.

[@ItsMefromSnuffys]

Another commenter said that he paid his wife to stay home and care for kids as her job.. i thought that was interesting

[@dank9288639]

I did it for the last 9 years. Finally, both kids are in school. Now it's worth it to work. Bc if not child care alone would have soaked up most of my pay, when we did the numbers, I would be bringing home less than 500$ a month. Now I will be bringing in around 5k a month. Big difference

[@beowulf916]

​@@Denice340Pay raises and promotions are not keeping up with inflation and higher cost-of-living.

[@406Bean]

reading a tape, setting a laser, operating a piece of equipment and knowing how to kick a shovel is preeeeeety important these dayz.

[@713devereux]

I have been reading a tape, setting up survey instrument and definitely know how to kick a shovel for the last 32 years. Nobody forced me into surveying and I enjoy it but has been a struggle. I encourage young people to get all the education they can get. Me and wife don't have children but I don't want nieces and nephews to struggle like we have. A good education is something that never be taken away from you and opens up a lot a doors.

[@jeucedudemanbromcdeuce3611]

Nope, I'd rather handle tech systems.

[@JimRyser]

Alwayz haz been!

[@jonniiinferno9098]

specially kicking a shovel - ya never know when your best friend is gonna need help hiding a body... 😜

[@handlesrstupid123]

It so essential that you dont you can pay people same or less than fast food workers

[@greggjohnson5458]

I have two children who got there bachelors degree in business administration. They doing very well with Wells Fargo & 3-M. So we have to be careful about dismissing 4 year degree. My wife at 62 is getting her 4 years degree as its something worth working for. I got my 4 year degree not that I made more money but it was an achievement I was proud that I did and looks great on your resume. I am a Radiologic Technologist and earned an associate degree in order to practice my profession which has been stable through out my career of 38 years.

[@darinwills9372]

Mike Rowe ... Youre a American Hero

[@ur8up2jabberwocky79]

1971 I went to college at state u and it cost me $972 a year....room, board, tuition, books, meals, parking.....just a lil under 4,000 for 4 years, the cheapest time in American history before universities raised rates 15% per year every year compounded for 50 years....unaffordable for todays middle class, college was affordable then, plus we leaned critical thinking not critical race theory, we learned to agree to disagree with open debates and no ones view was banned, that is how we learned, open debate and truths. When students argued their points it was heated but never resulted in violence, ever! They called us heads because we were thinkers, quite different from banning, violence, disagree and screamed down, hive mind. hmmmm....

[@alviverdeus]

And to pay it forward, your generation made it prohibitively expensive for everyone else. Boomers where handed the keys to a Ferrari, drove it into a ditch, and blamed their children and grandchildren for it. Your memories of respectful disagreement are straight fiction. Your generation were the buzzcut white teenagers in the civil rights videos, snarling, spitting, and swearing at the black students who wanted to attend your schools. You came of age in an era where interracial marriage was a CRIME in all of the ex-confederate states, the "colored entrance" to local businesses was in the back, and an unmarried adult woman couldn't get a bank account.

[@kevinkelly1586]

Unfortunately, those fine elements of higher education were lost when Political Correctness took over higher education in 1984 and turned it into one-sided indoctrination, enforced by censorship and intimidation.

[@irreccon]

Who in their right mind still believes college worth so much money, and why are these companies still requiring a 4+ year degree? Why not requiring 4 years experience instead?

[@Andrew-so8nr]

Mike has always come across as a good guy and I'm glad that hasn't changed. We need more like Mike.

[@EngineVSEngine]

I told my son he had the option of finding a job and working his way up the ladder instead of becoming a school teacher with all the debt. He now has a manager position at age 22 making 75K+bonuses with no school debt.

[@shiffleshanks]

Child care has been like this forever. I know a mother that works two jobs to make things work. She tried to get into low income housing that was newly built and she made just over the limit and couldn’t move in unless she quit her second job. It’s a scam to keep the population stuck. Then you get a different apartment and it’s old and not up to date but twice as much. So even if you make enough money rent will get you if you make to little it’s still a struggle with rent and food and child care. Lose lose

[@Kratosandoneeye]

That’s exactly what I did 46 years ago 63 retired and loving life ❤🎉

[@rayjohnson7881]

Want an answer. ? Lets slip back to the 50s. I would in a heartbeat.

[@BrandonStephenson-gp6tf]

Learned a trade, used the GI bill to pay for trade school/college. No debt, making $70k/yr and am getting a degree in the field that I am working in. Joining the military was the best decision I made.

[@maryellenkrause7126]

We will need skilled trades more than college degrees .

[@brega6286]

Yes !

[@eliotjohnson8851]

they're a better investment

[@firebir11]

They already need them badly.

[@BroganCole]

So we don’t need teachers?

[@firebir11]

@@BroganCole Not the type we mostly have now no. Hell bent on indoctrination.

[@RioSul50]

The plant I worked at in operations had several operators with degrees . Most operators did not have a degree, and I was one of them. At least one was a school teacher. We all made about the same. The plant closed 9 years ago. We all made between $80,000 to over $100,000 per year with GREAT benefits. One operator got his Masters degree PAID FOR by the company and some of the study time was paid for at work. Use your head. Degrees did NOTHING for those who I worked with. Period. I worked as an operator, boiler operator, trainer and lab tech in my 25 years of service.

[@jeucedudemanbromcdeuce3611]

Anecdotal. Degree do matter, especially in more technical fields.

[@ur8up2jabberwocky79]

ONE INSTANCE MAKES A GENERAL RULE, I TAUGHT ECONOMICS COLLEGE DEGREES EARN 4 MILLION TOTAL IN 40 YEARS AVERAGE HIGH SCHOOL GRAD UNEMPLOYED OR ABOUT 975,000 IN 40 YEARS.....I HAD A MASTERS AND MADE ALL I WANTED. I HAVE TURNED DOWN JOBS PAYING 1.5 MILLION 4 YEARS WORK ALL BENES PAID, HOUSE, SERVANTS, AND ALL TAX FREE. I HAD TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY TO MANAGE AN OIL COMPANY, TURNED DOWN TO STAY WITH FAMILIY AND FRIENDS.

[@krissykriss328]

​@ur8up2jabberwocky79 You don't have to yell .

[@krissykriss328]

@@JamesMaynardMoreland It sounds more like he is bragging, and his caps lock is on.

[@krissykriss328]

@@JamesMaynardMoreland 😊☺️

[@karenlubeck3294]

There is something to be said for one of two parent familes working part-time or being a stay-at-home parent until their children are in school full-time. It takes some planning and living a lifestyle that generates little debt. Not having student loan debt, having a manageable mortgage (or rent which I wouldn't recommend unless it absolutely makes sense for you to do), and only carrying one reasonable car payment (if absolutely necessary). Remote jobs, side hustles, mixed with jobs outside the home help families to manage their time better. It does work and can be done if it is a priority to people. The money that is saved and time you prioritize your family will never be a regret.

[@jonasbaine3538]

What trade jobs allow parents to work remotely and avoid the high childcare costs he mentioned?

[@timkis64]

mike rowe is such a great inspiration for the working class.he learned alot from doing nearly every dirty job there is.definately NOT affraid to get his hands greasey.& conveys the message of the american worker well.

[@gingersalmons2314]

My mom always said if you wait until you can afford to have kids, you will never have them. That was 60 years ago. She was a stay at home mom.

[@rcjdeanna5282]

"Every baby brings his own loaf of bread". Italian saying. I would also add, "every adopted stray pet". Help comes from unexpected places...like a long illness...the world turns upside down.

[@JohnQPublic345]

im a contractor, i my 50s. its been a long hard road for sure, but there aint much competition anymore. the younger ones arent wanting to get their gaming hands dirty. i do feel for them though, because everything is so expensive. i think they just have no hope, so they dont even try

[@amossnowdaharleyman9179]

I'm 63. Only high school diploma. 8 years in the U.S.N. in engineering. Retired in 2022 set for life plus. Company ownership was the key.I worked "for the man" for years and decided if I'm going to work that hard I'll work for myself and take the risk to reap the rewards. It worked well for me.

[@Deva-no3dn]

My 2 sons who got their GED (with about 2 weeks of study) and did not go to college are film editors, completely self taught (in junior high school they used 2 beta max cameras to edit films!). They are both creatively employed and love their careers. Tech is not for college grads. College knocks the creativity right out of your head and makes one a follower. Be the original.

[@user-qo1gk2kj3e]

A man who works with his hands can do anything and needs no one but his family.

[@guerillanewsfare267]

Correct, I have taught myself everything I know, I could build a house with my eyes closed and it come out straighter then most. I know more about all phases of construction than most doctors know about the human body. I never went to college, thought it a waste back in the day let alone now. I do all my own vehicles maintenance. Replaced entire motors, worked on tractors, bobcats, and heavy machinery. I could land a $ 100k + job tomorrow if I wanted to. Instead I help family and friends work on my brothers farm, mill our own lumber raise our own animals for slaughter and process them as well. When I need money I grab a job or two. My schedules always open and I don't ever punch a clock. Working 8 to 10 hours a day for 52 weeks is insane. I work maybe 30 hours a month, more or less as needed. I'm starting to invest and day trade now again self taught. It's been great learning alot and having fun.

[@Taj124]

@@guerillanewsfare267nice!!! Living the life!

[@watso014]

Only until those hands break down…

[@user-qo1gk2kj3e]

@@watso014 by then he has done enough for one lifetime, and can rest on his achievements .

[@yeshalloween]

Me over here raising 5 kids with no help from my boomer parents or in-laws even bothering to call or visit our kids. Homeschooling, cooking all the meals myself, I’m tired….

[@username-mc7jw]

I am making over six-figures in a dev/ops position... no college degree, not even an AS. My wife has her doctorate, owes $150k in college loans, and still makes less than I do. YOU do the math!

[@planejanedaniels]

Higher ed's bubble is about to pop, just wait.

[@MySilverSprings]

Most trade schools are actually teaching a high demand skill which transitions to a great paying job and career. Whereas many college bound kids become brainwashed into radicalized thinkers that upon graduate can't get a job that pays decent money because their actual skill set is so low.

[@mmaranta785]

True. I graduated a 2 year electronics trade school in 1982 and have been working ever since. Now I make $150k a year.

[@l.5832]

I certainly think trades is a great idea but there are a lot of gals out there that weight 95 pounds soaking wet and barely clear 5'2" and most trades are not viable for them. Too many gals are getting over-educated owing a lot of student debt, then get jobs where they get less than a man doing equivalent work so it's really the gals getting hosed on this. (I am a gal, 95 pounds, 5'2"😄)

[@angelofamillionyears4599]

We love Mike !!Great guy !

[@bradwolfe2993]

this video was great , mike rowe down to earth, knowledgeable, informative, in touch with the real world. His scholarship program so helpful for those that want a skill and to work. highly commendable.

[@nmbr6kid]

Raising your own babies at home, is most beneficial far more than just financially.

[@steveturansky9031]

I got an EE degree in 1982 and it did help me get a huge head start. But that's Electrical Engineering. Many other degrees at the time had to scratch around to find jobs in a downturning economy, but I had 5 offers. For me, college made sense at that time. If it were not for Engineering, I would have gone into the trades and skipped a 4 years degree. What would help is a little personal finance education in grade school and high school to help kids understand money use and how hard it will be to unbury yourself from the debt of a useless BA degree.

[@jrculbertson7463]

Mike is right! As usual. 👍💖🇺🇸

[@robster7787]

Mike Rowe is one of the few guys I have respect for because I’ve seen his work and what he’s done throughout his career. As for his take on 4-year degrees, I wholeheartedly agree, and I myself have a Mechanical engineering degree which is arguably one of the more reasonable degrees to pursues for higher education. Best part is that I was a tradesman before I became an engineer, so I’ve been on both sides

[@cottydry]

He is so right. If someone has the right aptitude, the trades are looking fantastic. You save the 6 figure cost of higher ed AND enter the workforce 4-6 years earlier and get a head start to higher earning potential. "A plumber fixes a damaged pipe in a doctor's house and asks for 200 dollars. Doctor says to him: Even i, don't make so much money in such a short period and i'm a doctor. And the plumber goes: I know sir. I used to be a doctor myself".

[@Patpatgat]

Mike Rowe, a true American hero! Always has been. A highly respectable man. Always puts the people who have the hard, blue collar jobs where they need to be, closer to the top.

[@Patpatgat]

@FreemasonsREnemy1-je6kz what do you mean

[@fabreasy304]

Imagine how much good all the billions we send overseas would do in our society…

[@helloken]

Cost of higher education keeps us in debt sometimes. I don’t see the value of paying $50,000+ a semester for a four year degree and be $500,000 in debt. There are lots of cheaper schools like community colleges or subsidized in-state universities that will get you a nice four year degree for far less. I don’t think higher education is bad but paying out the nose for it is not worth it.

[@JimLambrick]

The "you have to have a degree' bs actually got going a lot longer than 40 years ago. I started junior high in 1958 and even then they were streaming kids into 'trades' or 'university entrance' based solely on their primary school grades. Pile on the 'graduate class' demanding that they would only qualify other 'graduates' for too many jobs and three generations later you had to have degree to flip burgers. Glad to see this stupidity finally getting called out.

[@kareltracy]

My father once said that in the late 50's, he (with a metallurgy Master's) was being passed over for jobs in industry in favor of people with PhDs.

[@kerryalabama6716]

The American dream is dead! This country is crashing.

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

It's been dead, you've only barely noticed?

[@kerryalabama6716]

@ragingjaguarknight86 oh I have noticed. 100%

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

@kerryalabama6716 good work. And by noticing,you're ahead of others already. 😎👍 keep your eyes peeled and your ear to the ground.

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

This country is still one of the best in the world. You think this country is crashing because you don't know the condition of the rest of the world.

[@kerryalabama6716]

@MeneTekelUpharsin are you serious. We are not gonna have a country left if Biden doesnt close the border. This country is falling apart. People can't afford to live because essentials are so high.

[@MrGunPilot]

spot on!

[@FreshlySnipes]

They said “YOU NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE TO BE SUCCESSFUL” - so I went to college. Now I’m making $70k 7-years in… Now they say “WHY DIDN’T YOU GO TO TRADE SCHOOL?”

[@carolynwalker339]

Take care of your own children. Don't let others take care of your most precious beings. Maybe that's why kids are so confused.

[@Aeom_333]

Kids have always been confused, they’re kids

[@AndreaDoesYoga]

A much-needed wake-up call, thank you Mike.

[@joey51016]

Mike the truth never gets old. Great work.

[@EnigmaticDecay]

Mike is always an enjoyable listen.