Mike Thurston Gives His Opinion After Meeting Andrew Tate

[@ChrisWillx]

Full episode with Mike goes live this Monday. Press Subscribe people.

[@thedog5k]

@@SurfyStories ^^ XD Dude… I felt like it was a man talking to himself in the mirror scene.

[@jarrodgoforth1257]

You and Mike kind of look like brothers. Lol

[@2xPills]

Tell us who the clone is.

[@aldoserrano8231]

I want what you are on.

[@jjhalltattoo5359]

No

[@rohanremi]

Loved this self interview.

[@nghtly5257]

Yeh, it’s not an interview, it’s a podcast

[@chiraasseshredd1219]

It’s a monologue

[@jontyuk]

@@nghtly5257 🤓

[@vladgradinariu30]

Literally was thinking the same thing lol

[@coltwgrice]

@@nghtly5257 r/whoooooooosh

[@naskamal7454]

Am I the only one who thought these two, were same person

[@RagnarLothbrok2222]

Same 😂

[@nevojae511]

Same 😂😂😂

[@nest22]

I did the first month I was watching Chris lol

[@nachoarrausi]

Really? Chris and Mike? hahhahah

[@dasjup]

same😅

[@chrisf9377]

Seriously impressive editing. Genuinely looks like there were two people involved in the interview. Ask question. Stop recording. Change clothing. Move to other seat. Start recording. Answer question in different accent. Repeat.

[@pitpaf0767]

Bro no way you're this dumb. How can you possibly believe what you just wrote? Clearly he recorded all the questions then he stopped recording, changed clothing, moved to the other seat, started recording, answered all the questions in a different accent and then edited it all.

[@KitKat-te7jn]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DG-EditsYT]

It took 3 months to make this video 😂

[@dizzyh]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tacticaltemplar875]

It was cool to see Chris interview his stunt double.

[@joachim7]

😅😂😂

[@PhonkAttack4DX]

ikr

[@MrJabbothehut]

The reason Tate is the one people want to be like as opposed to Peterson, Willink etc is because he physically shows off and advertises the primal desires that guys have from a young age. He has money, women, and the ability to fight. He is a great marketer and knows exactly how to press people's buttons. The problem with role models is that the best ones tend to be everyday people who achieve the fundamentals such as creating a loving family and making a good life for themselves by creating value for others. If war was to break out, this man would have the courage to protect his family and gather other men to him in order to fight. It's not glamourous nor sexy and takes a lot of discipline and effort. Tate lives the playboy lifestyle which is a male fantasy but requires a whole different set of sacrifices to achieve that 95% of guys think they want but aren't really built for and would hate it if they experienced it for long enough. He does talk a great game however and you can tell that he means a lot of it despite his lack of filter which makes him an easy target for the wrong bunch. PS: to add to this (from personal experience), when people don't have an abundance of something, and they crave it, they tend to compare themselves to those who have the most of it. What they don't realise is that having that thing (money, women, power etc) has diminishing returns and you only need enough to satisfy your needs. Certain people center their lives around acquiring a thing and gather it for the sake of it because their personality is hyper competitive. 99% of people need an optimal amount and a balance. Tate has clearly stated over again that money was his focus from a young age and acquiring it gives him a sense of purpose.

[@thesuperiorbench6307]

Great comment :)

[@agnivaray7476]

Wrong bunch? If he says what he says, he’s the wrong bunch mate. The point is, he doesn’t speak for all men, just the ones interested in big D competitions. Additions: for most of the things you mentioned, there are way better role models in this world. Tate just tried to leverage the men’s rights movement for his benefit.

[@Snakebloke]

@@agnivaray7476 Oh god, someone got triggered. Watch out everyone! We've got a keyboard warrior here!

[@MrJabbothehut]

@@agnivaray7476 put your tampon in the right way next time

[@agnivaray7476]

@@Snakebloke I’ll take this one - a keyboard warrior is still better than being a Tate fan-boi anyway.

[@AbdulDean448]

More of these self interviews please

[@Frag_Star]

It was from the Mike Thurstons video that I got to know first who Andrew Tate was.

[@vamosgr89]

same

[@betweenworlds4869]

Mike is such a materialistic guy. He strikes me as someone who is trying to better himself, but hasn’t ever considered that this might mean more than being a successful, competent person. He ignores the spiritual, ethical, and cultural dimension of human life completely.

[@JoBlakeLisbon]

How do you know? Does spirituality pay your rent bruv?

[@ColtenL1129]

These two guys look like brothers

[@Zizox99]

I always Had the Feeling that Mike and Chris were the same person, Who's with me? I think they look A LOT alike!

[@abil3362]

Dude exactly the same. In the thumbnail it's a picture of Mike and I thought it was Chris. I had the same thought as you. 😂😂

[@Julie.SandhuMD]

Just clicked to this videos to finally see them directly next to each other

[@Zizox99]

@@Julie.SandhuMD hahahaha, samee!

[@AmeliaBodilia]

“The only difference between a hero and the villain is that the villain chooses to use that power in a way that is selfish and hurts other people.”- Chadwick Boseman

[@BiggestBallsack680]

I've read a better one, "a villain is a hero who's story hasn't been told yet" -Seriously can't remember who said it but it's way more accurate unless it's a disney movie or religion

[@marcosglemkstein952]

No SHIT. “The only difference between a hero and a villain is that the villain’s a bad guy”

[@MJD2201]

Quite a big difference then

[@badrobill1017]

Shitty quote tbh

[@chetyoubetya8565]

The only thing that makes a person a hero is someone's belief that they are.

[@marcusbaxby6798]

Looking for role models in ‘media’ is part of the issue (used to be TV, sports, music, etc. podcasters and KZbin personalities is the same principle). Being like someone else is an unrealistic goal

[@chriscorbart]

You take inspiration from others and personalise it, the goal is to always be yourself, you can’t be anyone else …

[@MofosOfMetal]

Tate is not unique in his core positive message, but he reaches way more people by his viral trolling approach to it. I think Tate strongly believes that the potentially 'toxic' side-effects of people taking that trolling seriously and literally is worth it for the greater goal of his own fame and outreach. There are positives and negatives to his influence - it would be preferred if the biggest viral figures were the ones that were solely positive, but it seems like there is no better way to go viral than to trigger people and become controversial.

[@0b3ryn29]

Firas Zahabi and GSP are great role models. They have the smarts and the physicality.

[@CoolAdam247]

Who tf asked ?

[@0b3ryn29]

@@CoolAdam247 in the video, chris williamson asked. so f u buddy.

[@shapshooter7769]

​@@CoolAdam247 All the Canadians who worshipped him 😂

[@sysiphusimagined]

I’d love if firas speaks more about philosophy

[@0b3ryn29]

@@sysiphusimagined he usually talks about philosophy after the 2nd half of his streams.

[@brandonstaples7300]

I think Chris and Mike gave a good clear cut on this interview. A wonderful perspective. And not so thought provoking. 😊

[@VSQUAD]

Not really, seems like they’re both scared of getting canceled

[@brandonstaples7300]

@@VSQUAD aren't we all

[@pavasite4278]

What are you talking about? They’re both the same person

[@samglazier1433]

When someone shows you who they are, believe them. The biggest manipulations involve throwing in smart, obvious facts and motivational talk. This helps you to believe he’s a ‘good’ person. He is still the person he showed before but is being smarter now he has a platform and much to lose. People DID watch those original videos. He still believes women should be subdued.

[@Craighowes]

Chris, loved the way you handled this topic. You basically mentioned every single one of my male models, except Harmozi, and then you mentioned him. Another guy who’s also been doing cool stuff is Russel Brand and Tom. Keep up the Great Podcast ❤

[@Engmelli]

Im pretty sure he has a podcast with hormazi

[@Craighowes]

@@Engmelli it’s a great podcast with him

[@dilly7551]

Russel is a great example of a less traditionally masculine yet charming role model. He’s not tough physically but spiritually strong

[@smutgod6125]

Hormoszi is fake af

[@Craighowes]

@@dilly7551 Russel is a purple bet Jiu Jitsu. He’ll sort the average man out.

[@nevojae511]

Clones, These guys look so similar and have the same voice + accent 😂😂😂

[@Deridus]

Phenotypes... crazy how they play out.

[@incurza2]

They’re both from Newcastle in England, neither have a strong accent anymore but that’s why

[@mrpeatson]

They're both British basically 😂

[@TheNameisBash]

Tate is absolutely necessary, because he directly opposes the mainstream message. Rogan and others like him are good, but they don't go out of their way to capture the minds of young men.

[@chamuelolivier1594]

he's absolutely necessary because he's the poster child of what not to do. The anti high value man, the pimp in chief.

[@ScienceSleuths89]

Oh god, lose this mindset as fast as possible. Tate is a virus. He is trying to show off & he is trying to make money by saying outlandish things. It's not a new or novel strategy. It's a common one used by many famous social media content creators. He's not good for young men. At all.

[@elise9537]

He is great! Makes it easier for the guys who are easy pray to this type of guru to stay an incel forever !

[@TheNameisBash]

@@elise9537 nonsense

[@elise9537]

@@TheNameisBash oh yesss. They are not that good at fitting in and they are easy prey. They shouldnt be mating anyway right?:)) what Ive read is that lots of ppl with autism fall for them. They are just producing more mass shooters.

[@dmitrijsbeliks9090]

Without watching let me guess: He is a nice guy in a real life.

[@matriaxpunk]

In real life he's a nice guy, and also a rapist. Nobody's perfect.

[@seanyshepfit]

Seems everyone who has met him says the same thing. Funny that.

[@ahsisjdvdve2022]

​@@seanyshepfit What's funny about that lol. You don't want to believe he's a nice guy?

[@kyyy8821]

@@ahsisjdvdve2022 He meant it's funny because the media hate the shit out of him.

[@caffeinated936]

you misunderstood@@ahsisjdvdve2022

[@FunkyKikuchiyo]

Andrew Tate is the wrong answer to the right question.

[@Leonhart_93]

He is very often the right answer as well. We are not looking up to him to identify problems, we are looking up to him because we like his answer.

[@VSQUAD]

Bot comment

[@FunkyKikuchiyo]

@@VSQUAD Oh, hush.

[@wilsonsanabia4259]

@@Leonhart_93 doesn't mean they're right, just because people gravitate towards it, reality is, men need the push women got from society, they work, they're outperforming on school by a wide margin, and men are just kinda there. It cannot be the case that men can only amount to have a job and protect your family/ be a leader, there has to be way more to us than that, just how there is more to women than being a mother and nurture

[@Leonhart_93]

@@wilsonsanabia4259 Yes, I have watched like 30 hours of Tate on podcasts. He is speaking about all of that, direct advice how men can become overperformers in all aspects of life. He inspired me. Honestly I find it ironic that the hive mind population is up in arms because of his comments about women, when actually he speaks way more and is 500% harsher on men. But of course they conveniently ignore that, everyone only cares about women and ignore men.

[@eamonshields2754]

I first starting watching Tate in 2018... he always had crazy charisma

[@renceworld]

Gaaaayyyy

[@MaiaDreams]

Narcist usually do, and that is how they deceive people…

[@jameshorgan2395]

"HE WAS TRYING TO SHOW OFF A BIT TOO MUCH" BIT RICH MIKE

[@michaelcavanaugh]

So as long as they say “wake up and work hard” you’ll give them a pass on the rest of their message being trash?

[@davidallen3774]

What they said, vs what you *think* they said.

[@omp365]

Some people like Tate BECAUSE he says what he wants.

[@cole6383]

This is like the video where Joe rogan was talking to Joe rogan

[@crazydolphin33]

Exactly, all the internet groups are turning into one consciousness, I guess they call it the hive mind for a reason lol

[@timetraveler0002]

the most detailed breakdown of tate ive ever seen is done by a romanian excon on a youtube channel called montana vlog international, he explains that to run the "webcam" business even if youre the nicest person in the universe you have to commit actual crimes to turn a profit - specifically his video titled "andrew tates business in romania"

[@bbbbbbb-y3u]

bro why would you listen to that guy lol. he is a convicted criminal, has threatened murder and r@pe on people, he is very low iq, he doesnt know how his own countries legal system works, he spreads false information. and on top of all that, he buys youtube subscribers, comments and likes.

[@enalo6261]

Coffeezilla also did a great job as he actually bought his courses on hustler university.

[@triple6j]

You also have to have 0 morals to run a webcam business. It’s funny his fans always focus on pushing that he didn’t break laws instead of addressing the morals of this man

[@triple6j]

@@m.n7591 Lolol you come here and literally prove my point. Maybe you are trolling I don’t know. Well it seems he d is not run it full legally. And again, why do you ignore all the horrible moral implications that comes with running a sexcam site…

[@triple6j]

@@m.n7591 yeah you could what’s your point? Lol And if laws aren’t being broken then not much people could do however I’d recommend not supporting the porn industry

[@bobjohnson3940]

I learned about Tate a few weeks ago due to someone talking about his situation overseas. Interesting subject all around.

[@TheGoatG]

Welcome in Top-G gang

[@vladimirnikolchev8401]

Bob u look different

[@bobjohnson3940]

@@vladimirnikolchev8401 There are many Bobs but I am for sure the core Bob

[@chadlink8199]

Without Mike that Bugatti joke would’ve never been captured. Think about it.

[@Afonso.Goncalves]

This podcast is amazing, great stuff Chris 🙌

[@cady341]

Two of my favs, together ❤️

[@Sulidaire]

It's the same guy /s 😂

[@lg206]

Tate is no different than the rest of these social media caricatures. They know what to say and do to go viral and be dog whistles to men and women that feel invisible. In real life they don’t say any of that ish

[@ricasso777]

Why wouldn’t a man strive to be competent , confident, assertive , physically attractive, having the ability to think for yourself , the freedom to become better in essence is Tates tenets . Why is that Wrong?

[@meghan8020]

Nothing. Those are excellent messages. What’s wrong is the way he talks about women. In some of his shorts I’ve heard him say, things to the effect of: there’s no reason women should be educated, we’re not nearly as intelligent as men anyway, and all we want is to be barefoot and pregnant, move in with our mother-in-law and make sandwiches for our husbands and male in-law relatives. We should be content with this lot in life, while our husbands are off galavanting around the country, and fucking anything that moves. We should just be grateful that he brings home money for us to buy nice shoes. I’m not entirely convinced that he even believes shit like that when he says it to be honest. But there are a handful of sad nihilistic mf’s out there who lap that rot right up. It’s a shame he can’t have a more honour driven and balanced understanding of what women actually want in terms of a partner. We pretty much want all the things men want….. although while youth, fertility and beauty are potentially more important to men, resources are important to women - since our productivity takes such a monstrous hit during our reproductive years. Also, you don’t get to tell women that their entire value is tied up in their chastity, while you proceed to fuck your way around Europe and the UK lol.

[@ricasso777]

@@meghan8020 I don’t disagree with anything you said . I also don’t agree with Tates views on relationships /polygamy etc . But to completely cancel and disregard his entire beliefs and philosophy isn’t justifiable . Freedom of speech is the epitome to a well functioning society.

[@meghan8020]

@@ricasso777 fair call. My impression is that women who may potentially ‘want him cancelled’, are slightly mortified that men are buying what he’s selling in terms of his relationship advice. It’s a bit scary, to be a woman and have so many men buying into this kind of messaging (strictly the misogyny, not the encouragement of masculinity and responsibility). I agree with you though, he definitely shouldn’t be cancelled. But more interviews with him from people like piers Morgan would be great. Some of his more outlandish ideas need to be challenged, and it would be great for him to have the opportunity to clarify some of his views in any case. I get the feeling that he enjoys a bit of shit stirring, and some of the podcasts I’ve seen him on a pretty trashy in the first place…. So I feel like sometimes the stupid stuff he says is deliberately provocative to get a rise out of fellow hosts/guests, and perhaps not necessarily an honest exploration of what he believes?? I don’t know. I wasn’t aware that a lot of the outrageous things he said were when he had a much smaller platform in his older content. KZbin’s funny like that - it’s not always easy to get an accurate timeline of the evolution of peoples beliefs. People are certainly allowed to evolve and change their mind. I’d love to see him on Chris’s pod cast, or Rogan or Lex Friedman :)

[@ricasso777]

@@meghan8020 well women being threatened by Tates rhetoric isn’t no where near as bad as the feminism being propagated deceiving these young women by becoming independent , self sufficient boss babe leads to a fulfilling life is completely not true. Tates. Objective is women should be protected , not work in a competitive environment especially against men , to raise a family and pro-create , modern women are being robbed of the gift God gave them becoming a wife , mother & raising Children. I agree with you I’d love to see Tate on more credible platforms.

[@meghan8020]

@@ricasso777 I agree. ☺️

[@pratikastrosaha5015]

30% of what he says is to garner views which is completely fine. You need to stay controversial so as to stay relevant but people are way to sensitive and take everything quite literally. I like Andrew tate and alot of his videos are actually not that regressive rather they motivate people to work on themselves and be better.

[@MashiroRedo]

The ideal man I believe is a combination of Jordan Peterson and David Goggins.

[@snakejazz]

Didn't think Thrursty would be the one to say what I've been thinking the last year about Tate, that it's all the fucked up short form content of things out of context for a mile that has been making him look terrible. I decided to listen to a bunch of long form interviews and discussions with Tate and realized right away how much he truly believes in what he says and just how genuine he follows the things he believes.

[@rigelb9025]

But here's the kicker : all that short form content being propagated like the plague is his fault, because he would incentivize all of his HU members to share clips of him when they signed up, in exchange for ad revenue (or something similar), which is also the main reason why he blew up the way he did. Point is, he made his bed, and now it's full of lice.

[@MrFuchew]

If you ignore what Tate says about women you're setting yourself up for a future disaster.

[@zekite6467]

His advice on women is terrible

[@m.d.atkinson6975]

What about his criminal proceedings? What about these girls than brand themselves with his name? I was intrigued by Tate at first but not even touching on these issues about him is a bit off.

[@chaz1794]

Roger Federer role model

[@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju]

messi

[@bazs7669]

Very insightful and great practical tips. Thanks Chris and Mike 💪🏽

[@waynehedd]

I only see Chris in this intierview.... where is this "Mike" guy?

[@blueboytv9191]

There's two sides to masculinity; Responsibility and Authority (Power). The likes of Jordan Peterson and Jocko Wilink are all about responsibility, but don't demonstrate quite as much of its benefits in terms of the authority it brings. Either because they don't know or its too controversial, given the times we live in. Andrew Tate sells the authority side of things, especially as it pertains to women, something that men are not allowed to do in current times, which is also ironically, the aspect of men that women respect the most.

[@travisjazzbo3490]

This is an underrated comment. MOST women want an assertive and confident and competent leader in their man. Whenever you see a woman in that role in a relationship, 100% guaranteed that is NOT a happy couple

[@asaprocky538]

He must of seen me and thought Mike seems like a cool guy... "how wrong he was" Haha ruthless

[@kenrehill8775]

Must have, it’s must have not must of. You can have must’ve or must have, but not must of.

[@asaprocky538]

@@kenrehill8775 Thanks for your valuable input

[@TheStreetProfessa]

Tate was smart enough to latch on to movements in the sphere of men. But when he brags about hustling and cheating lonely and sad men i don't know how he can be taken seriously. He does NOT give a shit one way or another he just wants fame and money. Don't believe me? Look at how many reality shows he was in.

[@VolatilityTradingStrategies]

I just have a hard time finding anything that Andrew Tate says that 100's of other men haven't already said before him. Work out, do hard things, focus on work, do it regardless of how you feel, men have been saying this literally for thousands of years. Going all the way back to the stoics, these same exact lessons have been taught. I don't see anything original at all, OTHER than the delivery. His communication is good. The message, it's as old as time...

[@RektRL]

Definitely agree

[@graciegracie]

More like he just wants money.

[@zahubshahid7944]

You just answered your own doubt. It's his DELIVERY which makes him unique. Joe Rogan has been advocating going to the gym and working hard for YEARS yet people didn't connect with him the same way they do with Tate. Who cares if he's not saying anything original because majority of men aren't even following it. Tate gives men hope through the way he speaks and that's all that matters.

[@graciegracie]

@Zahub Shahid There are people who don't consider the delivery - they heavily consider the actual message because you don't really need "intensity" to understand if a simple message makes sense and if you need it in your life. Maybe, one should look at why a certain group of people require to see a certain form of delivery before they understand the message.

[@zahubshahid7944]

@@graciegracie "Maybe, one should look at why a certain group of people require to see a certain form of delivery before they understand the message." Um.......... why? Why does that matter at all? Who cares why certain people respond to a certain type of delivery. As long as the outcomes from it are good, who cares about WHY it works?

[@georgemuhoro]

when is the full episode coming out

[@ChrisWillx]

Monday

[@sanjaycool6915]

Andrew tate makes u think because of his delivery, and he also talks a lot about the ppl who run the world, ppl in power don't want attention to themselves!

[@joehayden6065]

See, I find Goggins so inspiring. He embdies true struggle and what overcoming difficulty can yield. Tate I see as a joke really if im honest. I dont feel inspired by him. Jocko is also a fucking beast, as is Huberman.

[@Julie.SandhuMD]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@madeyez]

Tate mostly appeals to the younger crowds. He know how to dangle the fancy carrots in front.

[@claudiaeyre2461]

i love your classy Podcast - that you do not swear and have cogent, timely, compelling topics. Thank you for bringing today’s male guest Mr Thurston- he is a fine example of a educated and classy man!

[@ivotenotocensorship5247]

You must be a Democrat

[@Kurt-rg8jq]

I worked for an Ultra High Net Worth individual and everyone that "hung" out with him thought he was cool, but back in the war room (office), he'd talk smack about those people & he was a shrewd businessman & would run over anyone & treated staff terribly. Mike got manipulated & Mr. Tate was working him w/ the charm & persona as is necessary to get ahead in life/business.

[@user-ze4cx5sn5c]

Weird. All the staff speaks highly of him. Sounds like your sources are sketchy

[@brock5946]

Tate has said himself that we manipulate each other to get what we want. And he is a master at it

[@ArmandoKozomara]

Kobe Bryant is the best role model any guy or person can have. JP and JR too.

[@yosdef]

Everyone always talks about how they agree with "most" of what Tate says. But I am yet to hear a single thing he's said that I disagree with. I don't mean to sound like a fanboy, but even the more controversial or outlandish takes he has, he does a very good job of supporting his ideas and views with strong logic.

[@sonielwhite9405]

His dad raised their kids with the mindset that cheating for a man is okay. That you shouldn't take whining from your wife if she complains about that. Not polygamy, actually cheating without the girlfriends knowing of each other. That seems pretty fucked up if you view women as actually human beings. Also his logic behind this is that it's men's nature, we see this with lots of strong men in history. Every complete strong men should disagree with this. Men in power had always multiple women but they weren't strong in loyalty, honest family values or even basic emphaty.

[@graciegracie]

Watch CLT Bruce Rivers' takes on Tate's snitching, there you'll disagree with AT

[@yosdef]

@@sonielwhite9405 from what I've heard, Tate actually says he would openly tell his partners he was sleeping with other women, and if they're not ok with it, they can leave. For my own personal life, I disagree with this lifestyle, I actually prefer only having one partner. But tates philosophy is if a man can achieve such a status where he can provide for multiple women, then he should be allowed to do so. And I've also heard from multiple sources (such as the guy in this video) that he's a surprisingly kind and caring person, so I would be pretty sure he's treating his multiple partners well.

[@sonielwhite9405]

@@Sawblade46 if you search the original top G on KZbin Andrew says exactly what I said

[@sonielwhite9405]

@@Sawblade46 then watch the video where he explains how he get rich. He said at a point he had eight girlfriends and no girl knew from the other.

[@MitchellCallahan]

Like Mike said, very few man have the whole package.

[@MrM9819]

plus someone being "perfect" would be boring and unrelatable

[@rjdestiny-mx4ir]

Being 30 yrs old in my case which I don't consider to be really young anymore I can honestly say litlstening to tate deff made me want to go to the gym more and to put the work in for everything else in my life. I'm pretty sure most of his base is around 15 to 25 so for him to affect me like that caught me off guard

[@user-dq6se6er8j]

I disagree with that. I don’t see how he’s relevant to a 15 year old. 30+ men who felt like they were failing in life, definitely

[@senjai77308]

​@@user-dq6se6er8j oh believe me he is relevant to both

[@senjai77308]

​@@user-dq6se6er8j mainly because all men, have masculine desires, that are getting suppressed and shamed upon by modern society. And younger men as well

[@evalebedinsky3830]

Why did you need someone like him to tell you to go the gym? No one had to tell me to work out ever since I was 15 years old. Motivate yourself like a self sufficient human or listen to everyone else saying how important it is to go to the gym !

[@bbbbbbb-y3u]

@@user-dq6se6er8j nah bro, im 29, I have my shit together, I am 6'5, 230lbs and 12% body fat, I own my own business and have a multi 7 figure networth. I like Tate because he is funny and entertaining, and sure he is motivating too. my entire friend group loves tate aswell for the same reason, and they are all succesful men, most have longterm objectively attractive girlfriends. plenty of "older men" like Tate, maybe for different reasons, but to say its just men who are failing in life is dumb, and just makes me think you are failing in life, and thats why tate triggers you so much.

[@JimmyMFP]

6:05, that’s exactly right. Tate is smart enough to know how to galvanise that message, and wrap it up with his own politics. He jumped on the band wagon of greater men like Jordan Peterson, and uses their ideas to build his franchise around. I’ll give him his due for achieving what he has, but he’s standing on the shoulders of giants, whilst muddying their politics with his politics to disguise the message of toxic masculinity with positive masculinity.

[@sarah9044]

Very well said, I couldn't agree more.

[@Dbdbe1]

Jordan Peterson is an idiot. You have a long road to travel

[@markrc2012]

You guys are the role models young men should be looking up to 💪

[@mkb2420]

Tate is better lmao

[@majd716]

these two are great, decent lads.. but tate is on another level

[@Cheximus]

Thurston is lying about using steroids. That's no role model.

[@majd716]

@Xavier you a minor or just dumb?😅

[@hannahanderson5658]

I looked up this video for this reason. I wanted to hear what the man I’d want my potential sons to have as a role model (Chris) talk about the guy I hope they’d avoid (Tate)…

[@lorrygeewhizzbang9521]

Honestly I don't think you have to be superman to be a Good role model, just be vocal and don't get arrested. Joey swoll types. Express the value of hardwork but with a large chunk of respect. Tate is not doing boys any favors in respect to the views he expresses about women. You take an already unpopular boy and he tells the average girl she belongs at home,that she's mens property, lol he's toast.

[@ShiZo1337]

Who is chris talking about at 4:29, when he says he went to the power slap event with him and the guy is extremely competent?

[@dombartle6648]

alex hormozi

[@jcwiggens]

Mike actually makes the case that what Tate used to put out was the real him. He really thought it was OK to describe how to pimp women online to A) make money from sub and B) show how he does what he wants. Because no one was watching him. The biggest self snitcher on the planet.

[@ndivesportsTV]

Tate is the real deal is because from his journey from beginning to up to his success is what young men want ans go through all this other good men is hardly ideal .

[@zinclonius]

I legit thought these guys were the same person.

[@Drillah44]

Chris 'Nine Toes Dangling Out The Closet' Williamson

[@bakihanma9494]

Maaan i love Mike and Tate, awesome to see Chris talking about this shit 💯❤️

[@adsupermusone8875]

It's all about context and how you personally interpret it

[@rzo1991]

In the western world top athletes and undisputed guys like kambosos, thor bojohnson, bjs, calzaghe for the last generation with present dads are good role models. Boxing has always had a lower class audience so the trashy media doesnt report correctly on these people.

[@level9drow856]

Jordan Peterson is a FAR better alternative for inspiration and motivation than Tate.

[@snakejazz]

Different things can be taken from different people. Tate is no saint, but he's right about plenty of things. Jordan is an actual saint, and still gets things wrong plenty of times too.

[@adamkurekak]

I was looking for this comment

[@paulmurphy3922]

I worry when Rogan is used as a role model. A phenomenal success, but the bro science he pushes, not great.

[@level9drow856]

@@graytoby1 Not really, JP doesn't denigrate females. He calls for healthy mental health and growth of both sexes and inspires them towards monogamy. He has opinions on how woman can be successful in the workplace as well as men. While JP has a lot of good advice for men and often woman, Tate denigrates woman and grifts men sexually through his adult services and through his improvement programs. He's just a con man, a good one to. We'll see other truths soon enough, whatever they may be, in Romania in time. If you don't realize this you've been grifted and are a cuck for Tate. Give him more money, I'm sure it will help and you will be reborn again. JP, however is a compassionate human being and is a lot wiser and humble than the sociopath that is Tate. He offers a bounty of free advice through lectures, talks and conferences he has all over the world in actual academia. He teaches men how to be responsible for their own lives and to improve it without having anything negative to say about woman.

[@jakekelly2436]

Couldn't agree more with this 👍

[@estebanleon5826]

Thurston is just trying to save his brand by not agreeing with Tate. Tate is right about women. Tate commands men to take on responsibility. However, if a man has more responsibility, he must assume authority. No authority? No responsibility. Again, no authority? No responsibility.

[@danielepp3113]

Tate makes blanket statements about men and women that only apply to a small percentage. Example: 99% of men lie 80% of the time. There are hundreds of other examples.

[@estebanleon5826]

@@danielepp3113 A statement like that isn't what they're talking about. Talk long enough on a podcast, and we can find anyone with statements like that.

[@K3r0411]

Only because you agree with Tate’s opinion on women doesn’t automatically mean he’s right. He’s a grifting pimp. End of.

[@danielepp3113]

@@estebanleon5826 That was a mild example. I don't care to repeat the most egregious things he says. And it isn't about 'the odd comment'...it is consistent and full of shit with Tate.

[@estebanleon5826]

@@danielepp3113 okay.

[@mikewayne3118]

Im 100% at how he describe Tate. Tate is right maybe 70-80% and then he is 20% really wrong. But i think he is a better role model than many modern "men". But i think if you stay with Goggins, Joe Rogan, Peterson and Dewayne Noels from Dry creek wrangler you have a really good guide for men.

[@firstspar]

Great to see this style of video of interviewing yourself.

[@YasserSinjab]

I love both of you guys

[@barbara6840]

Justin Baldoni I think is a great role model for the modern man to consider.

[@MarkWilson-ij9jd]

Nobody agrees with you.

[@underdoge8338]

no

[@OwnGrid]

Unfortunately it’s not what wahmen think, also they have to be very well known

[@renceworld]

I hear the liver king is natty and a great internet celebrity role model

[@renceworld]

@@OwnGrid “wahmen think” is that a Rasta with Alzheimer’s

[@martinpaddle]

I'm honestly getting a bit tired of people saying there are no role models for men. There's plenty of them all throughout history, scientists, engineers, and so on. Why look up to pimps flashing cars...

[@kusali11]

I thought these two guys were the same guy. Good to know the difference.

[@JohanCarlsson93]

Rich Froning the GOAT of role models 👌

[@ciutacify]

As a Romanian, I assumed Tate was a knock off, after his podcast with Pierce Morgan he gain my 100% respect.

[@mika.6505]

@DS I don’t like tate but pierce morgan fucked up so bad against him

[@Neviksir]

@DS Dude talks over people and has the additional help of an earpiece to feed him what to say to fluster him. Andrew demeanor was different and Piers had respect for him 2nd time.

[@danielstoyanov359]

Tate is actually a very good role model, if we ignore the good things he says and see the bad affect he has, what is it. Because in terms of what he says about girls he wouldn't inspire guys to talk about women in a bad way but would inspire them to do good in their life. A masculine man will not pose a threat to women its the weak men that can't get any women that do.

[@planck10-43]

I think the guy on the left started sounding more like the guy on the right as the interview went on.

[@boyunderbridge]

Goggins and Willick are people telling their story on the other side of their experiences. Tate has his eyes set on reality TV from his earliest years, trying travel shows and big brother. The person we know him as is just a formulated persona, no different to how Brian Johnson created Liver King. Both narcissists who have deluded themselves and others that they care about societal issues and of course, they are the answer.

[@user-ze4cx5sn5c]

Cope. They’re messages are fundamentally the same

[@shaneliffin6116]

Mike nailed it.

[@kompanjonac]

3:26 David Goggins goddamit. Or Greg plitt( if you dont know him google)he was f..in legendary.

[@raghunath8246]

this guy has an uncanny resemblance to Kun Aguero

[@thedog5k]

3:46 Those are all very far lmao Or frame it as pieces of each of them. And really hammer down that not everyone needs to aspire to be a podcaster.

[@unicron2109]

Hulse 2013 - 2017 was unparalleled

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

He was batt shit crazy but was entertaining

[@ornlu_the_wolf]

You crazy

[@jules9094]

I get that someone can have opinions you don't agree with but can we all remember when Tate got on twitter to belittle a father trying to raise money for his child's cancer treatment and essentially wanted him to beg him in an open forum for his help? If this is the even a percentage of a persons make up then I'm sorry but that individual is evil and not worth my time.

[@Snakebloke]

Andrew Tate glamorises a lot of what the others talk about. If you ask me who I'd follow, I'll pick Willink or Rogan probably. Peterson has helped me enormously, but I'm not a Christian. Tate, is that sort of crazy fun uncle who had a mid-life crisis and everyone secretly wants to be like for a little while. Not sustainable.

[@connor8636]

Andrew Tate was one million times bigger than a fitness model when they collaborated. Mike delusional

[@davidcarty7584]

Andrew Tate wasn't actually that big tho when they did their video together he blew up months after that

[@renceworld]

@@davidcarty7584 oooohhhh actually

[@davidcarty7584]

@@renceworld 😂

[@AC_241]

​@@davidcarty7584 He still was like 5 times bigger than Mike, now maybe he is 100 times bigger than him

[@davidcarty7584]

@@AC_241 whatever doesn't really matter

[@JulioReguero]

Tate is the guy you hear talking and you immediately know he’s a con man and a charlatan

[@pranashakti4161]

Sorry, he is NOT saying things that have not been said before. He's saying lots of the key messages about empowerment, psychology, self-responsibility and the like which I and many other people in the personal development field have been saying FOREVER! Sadly, he is saying empowering and positive things but using them in a NEGATIVE way that glorifies himself and his bank account. Young men and all women deserve BETTER

[@Leonhart_93]

You forget that there aren't many that are willing to cut that deep as Tate does. That ability is fundamental and replaceable. Only in the last year figures from the manosphere started following his example with renewed courage.

[@HM-mw7cg]

Thing is, people act like there have always been public figures worth looking up to. Ffs your dad and uncles should be ones. Your family doctor, your sports coaches. Why do you need someone on the internet or in the public eye?

[@michelledromazos2634]

Rogan , Shaq , Lebron , Goggins , Kobe , Steve Harvey , Both Jordan’s ,

[@scotttaylor4341]

You must be a basketball fan because Kobe, Jordan, and Lebron are terrible role models.

[@Gregski3]

Thinking about it the list of guys he mentioned are not somehow seen as the most desired by women. The paradox is that Tate seems like the guy that should be desired by women (and thats why young men want to be like him) but when you listen to interviews with women and all of them hate him 😂

[@Skwid-Lives]

No those aren’t the role models of the world. Joe Rogan, Jocko, Andrew what’s his face. It’s all the fathers out there no one knows who man up and do there job. We don’t look to celebrities for anything

[@dr.yosra.azcool]

Mike is honest and he’s not judgmental,, BUT we should not take people as role models as a whole but maybe some or more of their actions manners! But I am sorry when it comes to controversial things the whole person should not be praised for doing anything!!! But rather people praise him and hurray him “tate” in everything and if he doesn’t take back what he said or say something better it is the same because his actions/words created clans of really badly influenced people.

[@awh4272]

2:22 that does work very well. I'd never heard of Tate u tik I saw him with Mike and now I'm a big fan of 90percent of Tate's stuff. Tate is smart AF

[@slimway]

Why should we limit ourselves to contemporary role models of men when have hundreds and thousands across history? It’s not our fault we live in times where we lack honest highly intellectual and empathic men. Grab some books gents

[@seven92023]

Let's flip it around. Who are the good role models for women? And what are those role models teaching women? At least men have JBP, Tate, Myron, Rollo, Rich Cooper, Kevin Samuels (RIP) and many others. Who do women have? Alex Cooper from Call Her Daddy? Megan The Stallion? Nicki Minaj? The Kardashians?

[@indy7868-e3h]

OMG! bro, i literally thought mike thurston was interviewing himself....dude their face features are so much alike LOL

[@jaimeduendeozzzkr]

I too thought this was the same person lmao 😂

[@natasha23950]

lt is simple. As a woman, l would say people flock to him because Andrew Tate has the charisma others dont have. Sharp mind and phenomenal eloquence.

[@brock5946]

That's true. People know Tate is winning and they want to win as well. But they don't want to put the work in to become competent in every realm of human endeavor