CZ Scorpion - Campfire Stories

[@brooxeyyy]

Mike names guns like Yoda would. "hrmm. yes. my nagant-mosin this is. bullets it fires. found it in a barrel for 20 dollars i did."

[@Moonhermit-]

"Mess with Obi-wan by stating wrong technical info I will. Maximum pain I must cause"

[@mr.nobody2191]

rod of garbage it is but love it i still do

[@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460]

We need Mike and Zach as Anakin and Obi-Wan, now!

[@jonathanstiles6072]

My rifle this is. Like it many there are, but mine this one is. 54R by 7.62 it fires. Use it as boat or to navigate the swamps of Dagobah I do. 900 years you will age when absorb as much cosmoline as I have you will. Fit in my house with the bayonet it does not, three times as tall as me it is. Recoil! Recoil junkie I am! Punt me like a green football it does!

[@Dhips.]

Rimmed 7.62 it fires. x54 it is.

[@Scream_Lord]

I love how Zach says "Mike got a gun." like a snitchy kindergartener telling teacher on Billy for hogging the swings.

[@oxygenlow9858]

i love the random foreboding background music

[@hunter-arbe8845]

your firearm maintenance skill level is high enough that it allows your installed optics keep their zero when reattached

[@Zach_Hazard]

That might be what's happening there.

[@doommastermclean8238]

@@Zach_Hazard Did Zach Min/Max his gun stat irl?

[@muffininacup4060]

@@Zach_Hazard I mean, if the screws and the screw holes arent worn, fit properly, and are tightened the same - is there a reason to not reasonably expect it to retain zero? its not like the holes moved or the screws shifted their axis a few microns to the side, if they are not actually worn enough for that

[@TheHorsemanOfTheApocalypse]

@@doommastermclean8238 he was grindin in fort polk

[@matt-jv8gh]

@@Zach_Hazard or you're using the same plate and optic on the same gun, and torguing it down the same. i was told by a very good competitive shooter/gunsmith that you can take an optic on and off however many times you want, but as long as the mount is the same and the torque is the same, you won't have to re-zero. you absolutely still should check, but if you do have to adjust zero it'll still be really fuckin close

[@xulfite]

last time i was this early, they still couldnt figure out what was wrong with zach's leg

[@wesleyfravel5149]

To be fair they still never did, all Zack has is a theory at the moment.

[@MrHolodoc]

To be honest, it is a real Enigma with what happened with his Leg.

[@L337f33t]

And they thought he had Celiac’s disease

[@redthewifeyhunter4034]

All it was is Peripheral Edema and never gave him a physical to solve it

[@link4585]

Did they ever figure out what's wrong with his leg?

[@zacharybartolo5111]

I’m sure there was more to the flow of that conversation you had with the customer, but she should have led with: “I got bears.”

[@Zach_Hazard]

That would have made the choice of 10mm much easier

[@WTFisTingispingis]

@@Zach_Hazard Indeed.

[@asentientjdam519]

The term for this is an XY Problem, incidentally. "I need X, can you help me?" "Why do you need that?" "Because I'm trying to solve problem Y." As someone who works in IT, I can tell you this comes up a *lot*. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem

[@olliegoria]

​@@asentientjdam519Yeah, we're taught to just say what we want and not explain why unless they ask. I do it all the time.

[@shaness112233]

@@asentientjdam519 I feel like the letters should be swapped, to have the cause be X and the resulting need be Y. Calling it a YX problem shows why it's silly much better. I mean, I know you have no control over it, it just seems backwards to me lol.

[@RyuTheAsian47]

Zach, how dare you prevent Mike from the honor of using a 20 inch M16 with a bayonet as a home defense weapon. Your transgressions will be reported to the council of carry handle

[@thecoolestofthe834s2]

speaking from experiance "what if he is in a plate carrier and i happen to have green tips

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

​@@thecoolestofthe834s2m855 doesnt punch through lvl4 plates and normally doesn't punch through lvl3.

[@jonathanstiles6072]

The M16A4 is not just a rifle. It is a m🤮tric to American conversion tool. It's also the reason that the Marine Corps is a humanitarian service in disguise, sent to deliver backwards nations from units of measurement invented by the fucking French. 1,000 milim🤮ters is exactly 1 M16A4 in length. 8.00 kilogr🤮ms is exactly one M16A4 (with sling and loaded magazine) in weight. You can now convert m🤮tric to American by measuring in M16A4 rifles. See some country that's using French units of measurement? It's the Marine Corps’ job to correct that discrepancy. One m🤮ter = one M16A4. One kilom🤮ter = one full battalion of 1,000 Marines with M16A4s. And for those who refuse to see the light of this objectively superior system, the Marine Corps is merciful enough to make them see the light of muzzle flashes and put them out of their misery in their preferred unit of measurement: 5.56x45. You cannot convince me that God in his province did not find that rarest of miracles - a former E4 Marine that can count - and put him on the design team for this rifle for this exact reason, nor can you convince me that the person who decided to replace the M16A4 shouldn't be tried for treason.

[@courier665]

The chamber of the forward assist has been notified of this.

[@TheBreadbear]

You know, as a Czech, it feels strangely good to just see the subtitles "CZ Škorpion". I just appreciate that it's written correctly. As well as the fact that people seem to like our guns.

[@olachens]

Probably also because it's the only way to distinguish it from the modern CZ Scorpion.

[@dark2023-1lovesoni]

​@@olachens Well, you can call it the Vz61. Honestly, despite being "goofy" as Zach describes it, the Vz61 is actually really neat and over-engineered. Like it has an automatic bolt lock-open on empty system. But there's also a manual button to lock it open, too. Or you can just put the saftey on to lock the bolt in either position (open or closed). Like the MP5 is a bit silly with 2 different muzzle attachment points and 2 magazine releases, but the Czechs were also fully on board with that level of redundancy. Maybe it's just something about European SMGs of the 1960's. But I desperately love them both and they always accompany me on every range trip.

[@MrSomaArikado]

They may eat through ammo like a fat kid through cake but the skorpion guns are god damn beautiful. Straight to the Evo 3....dead ass a beautiful gun.

[@nero9978]

The Czech have some really cool guns tbh.

[@vruxdrossgaming]

CZ 75 is one a great sidearm.

[@ToastyMozart]

I'm glad Mike is happy with his CZ Scorpion Evo Max Pro 3 & Knuckles.

[@Captain1nsaneo]

Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry 3.

[@asgth6147]

@@Captain1nsaneo New Funky mode.

[@thefattertheratter45]

&Bass

[@Bacony_Cakes]

ultimate collection edition?

[@Tha-mountain]

Dub remix (while we are at it)

[@jte7438]

LOL, Archie standing behind the bar is so adorable! "Blimey, these yanks sure got an 'ard-on for guns, innit?"

[@PlebNC]

Fun fact: To own and drive a decommissioned tank/APC in the UK all you need is a shotgun licence. Not even a driving license.

[@MrHolodoc]

"Oi', if yer gonna keep invitin' me to to both of ya' gettin' 'ard-on for guns, then I'll... I'll... I'll drink myself up with some of these ol' Beverages and get ya' blamed for neglecting and lettin' a Kiddo get all drunk!"

[@olliegoria]

"Right, you two bellends 'ave been sat dere free 'ours tolkin guns and ye aint boht a single fockin' drink. Eivver ya buy sumfin or ya bloody find a door."

[@948320z]

@@olliegoria There's legit a pub that has a little girl as the barkeep in Fallout London. It's populated by the Camelot. She looks like she's constantly drinking from her own stock in her idle animation (thanks to Bethesda's environmental animations, like the infamous Piper taking endless jet).

[@tankradiooperator]

The pure vitriol in Zach’s mini rant on pistol optic cuts is hilarious

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

Soon as he said his glocks are MOS I groaned I hate plate systems cut it for something and tell the buying public to deal with it. Best option for the MOS pistols is the holosun SCS because it direct mounts to the slide and cuts out the plates

[@youcantseeme3456]

I cant wait for mike to defend his home only for the media to say the "HOMEOWNER HAD A MP5"

[@rdrrr]

Journalist's guide to firearms! If it has wood, is AK-47. If it has polymer, is AR-15. If pistol, is Glock. No exceptions.

[@Kuria_zhaints]

Zach gonna have one hell of crash out after that for sure 😂

[@LukeCrawford-n7n]

​@@rdrrrIf it's wood or has a curved magazine it's an AK, if it's black it's an AR, if it's polymer it's a 3D printed ghost gun, and if two or more guns are in the same home at the same time it's an arsenal.

[@hrodga]

@@rdrrr If it's a SMG, it's gonna be called an Uzi.

[@lsfaraone]

@LukeCrawford-n7n That's always a fave. Got found with four guns, two of which were old hunting rifles but OhMaGOsH iT hAs RiFlE iN tHe NamE sO iT mUsT bE aN aR Idiots always being the loudest about things they know nothing of.

[@judgemental9253]

I love the vz61, fun fact: if you mag dump standing up, the magazine will empty before the first casing hits the ground

[@Inferno144]

I will forever love how Mike animates and edits Zach's very unique way of speaking and when hes explaining things. Always get a good chuckle when he cuts the words apart whenever Zach goes 'BZZZZZRRR'

[@m.shields1270]

Man I wish I knew where Zach worked. Then again if that was public knowledge there would be fan boys and fudds busting down his door asking for gun advice or just wanting to talk his ear off.

[@olliegoria]

They let slip that they live in Pennsylvania in one of their recent ones. But yeah, knowing Zach he _really_ wouldn't feel comfortable with a mob of people flooding his store going "ARR YEW ZAKK HAZZERDDDDD"

[@aSipOfHemlocktea]

I just want to buy a good gun I don't really want to talk about like Zack Hazard stuff maybe gun autistic about guns for a bit because I love them but I do not know nearly enough

[@olachens]

@@olliegoria Does Zach even still work in a gun store? Maybe they mentioned it in this episode, but I got the ADHD real bad and probably missed it.

[@olliegoria]

@@olachens They brought it up a year or two back. Mike's KZbin channel was at that time successful enough for both Mike and Zach that he mentions he only works one or two days a week. He doesn't need the job, but he keeps it because it's just what he likes doing, plus it's extra money and something to depend on if the KZbin checks shrink.

[@mechadrake]

You do not annoy Zach with your presence or you risk you phone being broken in twain ;)

[@lil__shmeat]

Funny enough a dude at my local gun store talked me out of a Evo 3 a couple days ago. Said, "We have some better PCCs than this" he then proceeded to show me a KelTec Sub2000. I laughed and asked to see the SIG MPX lol

[@Killa_Kaiser]

100% he just wanted those KelTecs out of his shop

[@Pilotmario]

Reading this comment is watching a trainwreck in slow motion.

[@just_zone]

Better? Nah. Kinda cool and quirky? Definitely... That sounds like it'd be an official Keltec sales motto.

[@MrLM002]

CMMG Radial Blowback Upper on a standard AR lower...

[@WingMaster562]

Lmaooooo

[@argentcosmonautmobile5672]

The most second hand enjoyment I got from this was "We can have more range days now"

[@tylorchristie8310]

I dont know why but the campfire stories always tickle my brain. I want more of it. Hearing somebody just go off about their interests or past just does something.

[@falloutfart9917]

About the drywall, I once rammed my butt through it in my basement when I tried my hoverboard for the first time

[@Zach_Hazard]

"I once rammed my butt through drywall" is a sentence that you'd have quite a lot of difficulty explaining. Until you added the word "hoverboard," then no further explanation was necessary.

[@arx3516]

You know what? American houses may be flimsy, but at keast they're safe. My home had a stair with steps covered in granite, you know for decoration. Imagine a kid falling down from those stairs...

[@mastersinthe]

I agree, It could be taken way out of context, from a mere accident to someone somehow summing up that you filmed a hardcore p*rn in the aforementioned room ​@@Zach_Hazard

[@jimmyrustler8983]

​@@Zach_HazardKnown as the reverse Koolaid man.

[@The2flame]

"why do you want something in 10mm?" "we get bears in the backyard" "alright ma'am, here is your PTRD-41 and ammunition for it"

[@dragonace119]

A PTRD? Thats too small, gotta get a Lahti L-39.

[@hrodga]

Growing up in Alaska, 357 magnum is the minimum that people are generally willing to carry if they're expecting to encounter a bear. Colt Pythons were pretty common to see.

[@WingMaster562]

"Oh shit, that's an anti-tank rifle" "Bitches love cannons"

[@olachens]

@@hrodga Well, you guys usually have to deal with grizzlies. These guys are (IIRC) in the lower 48, so 10mm is fine for black bears. Most of the time a stick works too, a 10mm is just a good backup.

[@spacecatsftw]

@@olachens iirc not just grizzlies, but something worse: polar bears

[@goatcat2737]

6:28 I was about to say "What are you defending your home against, bears?" but lo and behold

[@gustavofreitas5163]

About Golden Eye's Klobb: Largely regarded as the worst gun in GoldenEye, the Klobb was named after developer Kenneth Lobb last minute while he was on vacation just prior to cartridge production. Partly to honor and partly to have a little fun, the developers had to change the name of the gun because Nintendo legal was worried about the originally planned name Spyder causing trademark trouble with the paintball gun of the same name. They had already printed several manuals with the name Spyder but changed the name on the game's ROM prior to production. Kenneth was on vacation when he got notified of the changes. He appreciated it.

[@Twist-The-Friendly-Hunter]

Zach and Mike casually talking about their experience growing up with guns. Me a british guy: Has experienced guns twice. 1. Stolen car drives up a few houses up from us, stops, opens window and out pops a double barrel which fires both shells and peels away. There was a child on the front garden and SOMEHOW wasn't hit once yet the house was peppered by buckshot. 2. Arguing down the road, man throws axe at guy near his landrover... man proceeds to open the door and grab a L96A1 and fire into the door. Drives away. You are probably wondering "HOW?! How does this happen" 2 words. Council estate. Basically the equivalent of a suburban area combined with the hood. both these people were arrested including axe guy. No incidents since with guns or experience with them... Which is funny as someone was selling a legit Mk.4 Lee enfield and i genuinely was intrested.

[@barthvader95]

Am Polish, same (or similar) boat. Though it's actually from the complete other end -- the guns here are either rich people toys or hunter toys (and hunters are usually rich guys IIRC). The few gun negligence stories that make news are usually "drunk hunter shoots something he shouldn't have, claims he thought it was a boar". Recently there's been this viral (in our part of the internet) clip where a JUDGE from the OFFICIAL SPORT SHOOTING ORGANIZATION breaks every gun safety rule and accidentally puts buckshot in some poor random guy's ass.

[@rdrrr]

So... axe-man threw his tool at a military vehicle? Because how else would he just so happen to anger a man with access to a sniper rifle?

[@Twist-The-Friendly-Hunter]

@rdrrr no it was a old defender used as a farm vehicle... as for how he acquired it? Well they are kind of a gang family and I know he was in the military and probably pinched it knowing him.

[@rdrrr]

@@Twist-The-Friendly-Hunter I'm glad I live in a part of this country where I'm extremely unlikely to encounter armed criminals. I'm a rare Brit in that I'm actually pro-firearm. I belong to a rifle club. I'm in the "criminals will have them anyway and I hate the idea that they do and I don't" camp. I _could_ get a license, which would entitle me to own a very limited selection of firearms, but it's expensive (I can't afford a five-inch thick steel safe to store them in!), it involves a lot of bureaucracy and frankly I do not like or trust our government (I didn't like the one before either), so I don't want to be on an "owns guns" list.

[@Twist-The-Friendly-Hunter]

@rdrrr I live in a city and yeah. Happens a lot. As for a firearms licence it's impossible here. The judge needs to be your freind and have a lot of money and again. Council estate so not exactly rich and not poor.

[@CErra310]

This is what being a good friend is like. Not just being an enabler for your buddy because he wants an AR-15. I honestly envy the two of you. I feel like you're both the sort of person the likes of which everyone needs someone of in their life.

[@SuperYacub]

"enabler" like it's a harmful drug

[@WingMaster562]

I do wonder, CZ Scorpion is good, but why not an AR 15 in 9mm?

[@sagecolvard9644]

​@WingMaster562 Zach answered this as a reply to a different comment. Essentially, the difference in quality between a cheap AR9 and an expensive AR9 is really wide, and the CZ Skorpion Evo 3 is cheaper than an actually good AR9.

[@andrewmiffitt7973]

@@SuperYacubdrugs are cheaper

[@WingMaster562]

@@sagecolvard9644 that makes a ton of sense now. Ive been snooping around and Ive yet to find that comment with the reply, but thanks for letting me know. Have a good day~

[@naxmorvigatore4168]

Mike's in-game NPC sucking ass at shooting anything and constantly friendly firing Zach, while real life Mike is a professional marksman from experience with hunting and military is kinda hilarious

[@O5-hans]

CZECH GUN MENTIONED RRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHHH 🔥🇨🇿🗣️🇨🇿🗣️🇨🇿🗣️🇨🇿💪🏻🇨🇿💪🏻🇨🇿🦅🇨🇿🦅🇨🇿🇨🇿🇨🇿💪🏻🦁🦁🦅🦅🦁🦅🦅🦁🦁🦅🦁🍻🍺🍺🍻🍺🍺🍻💯💯💯💯💯WHAT THE HELL IS DRINKING WATER INSTEAD OF BEER.🔥🗣️💯🗣️🍻🇨🇿🇨🇿🦅🇨🇿🦅🗣️🍺🗣️💯🗣️🇨🇿🦁🇨🇿🦅🗣️🍺🇨🇿🍻💪🏻🦅💯💪🏻🍺🇨🇿🦁🗣️🦁🗣️🍻🗣️💯🗣️🗣️🦁🗣️🦁🗣️🍺🗣️🍺🔥💯🔥💯🇨🇿🇨🇿🇨🇿🇨🇿🇨🇿

[@jankobbbra]

TRUE CZECH

[@dr.cheeze5382]

Obligatory bohemian reference fulfilled. Your Czech is in the mail.

[@RM97800]

Česká Zbrojovka supremacy!

[@ondrikkovarikcz5131]

Češi gang let's gooooooo xdd

[@olliegoria]

"What would you like to order" "Uhh, the Czech, please."

[@solidalexwolf]

13:13 this just further verifies Mike's story in the challenge coins video about hitting expert marksman while under the rain, nice

[@thomaschristensen2941]

Ah, yes, the Scorpion Lancer 350CZ

[@Zach_Hazard]

"Hey you got any of them Mitsubishi Glock-15 Scorpion 12 gauges?"

[@thegentlemanpirate13]

Archie is learning a lot more about firearms than he expected.

[@markpaff8211]

As a guy who loves lever action, the parachord wrap is a knuckle saver

[@ReinaSaurus]

zach talking about all the mistakes someone could do while using a gun sounds like he lived through every moment of them himself before...

[@barrag3463]

He does work at a gunstore, and he was an actual armorer in the army; I imagine he has seen quite a bit.

[@Zoeythedirewolf]

​@@barrag3463 *small arms repairman

[@TheHorsemanOfTheApocalypse]

@@Zoeythedirewolf call him a gunsmith that sounds cooler and more accurate since he fixed bigger guns

[@ssjbread2803]

​@@Zoeythedirewolfdon't forget the howitzer is somehow considered small arms

[@bigpiggy4946]

Fun thing about 10mm is that bush pilots usually carry it. like Zach said, a 10mm is pretty good at stopping bears

[@jester4057]

My dad was a Police Officer in Czech back in the 80s and 90s and has very fond memories of using the original Škorpion, says it was a delight to use

[@eriercandy3151]

I love the bring out the plain roles in Full metal panic.. and the utter reaction from the crowd. Dude got off easy.

[@omkri]

Love my Scorpion EVO! The Czechs make some of the best firearms no doubt

[@Vogerl1337]

"What cartridges have been used to successfully deter bears?" Just get a Finnish person, have em go all "PERKELE!", easy. Zach's a good friend btw!

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

Can we talk about just how good a salesman Zach is? Not in like the sort of way where he will get someone to buy something more expensive or more powerful than they might need, but in the things he considers about someones situation, what they need it for, what they are familiar with, and helps them figure out what they actually want that works for them. I’d love to find a gunstore with someone like him at the counter

[@Gantradies]

basically, the kind of genuinely good saleman who both gets repeat customers, but a slow but steady stream of others coming in due to really good world of mouth?

[@rollingfinn2044]

You say that but a scorpion is definitely more expensive than an AR (even an AR pistol with 9mm) the scorpions has very limited accessories as well as real estate for accessories compared to the AR platform. (I should know i own both) the scorpion does have some QC issues to look out for. Just saying Zack knows his friend but on paper he recommended he instead of purchasing a rifle he was familiar and comfortable with he recommended he buy what is basically a short rifle version of a handgun that costs more than most handguns, parts cost more/are not as readily available (ask me how i know that as I do own one) has less real estate than an AR all to perform the same exact function he could get from either an AR platform or a nice handgun. For less money and less headaches. Now he has a weapon that is not a rifle, performs the same as a handgun, that can't be easily concealed that also costs more than an AR or a handgun.

[@ZeroSuitSamo]

Zach over here being a good friend and convincing Mike to get something more usable, while I'd just be like "the first guns I bought for myself was a Cetme 308 and a 357 Magnum and I turned out fine, get yourself that M16A2 clone" lol

[@dark2023-1lovesoni]

Honestly, despite being "goofy" as Zach describes it, the Vz61 Skorpion is actually really neat and over-engineered. Like it has an automatic bolt lock-open on empty system. But there's also a manual button to lock it open, too. Or you can just put the saftey on to lock the bolt in either position (open or closed). Like the MP5 is a bit silly with 2 different muzzle attachment points and 2 magazine releases, but the Czechs were also fully on board with that level of redundancy. Maybe it's just something about European SMGs of the 1960's. But I desperately love them both and they always accompany me on every range trip.

[@depressedTrent]

Lot of choices on that thing are result of being designed on request of secret police who wanted more than pistol and less then vz. 58, and specifically to be silenced full auto, thus the .32 ACP, and easy to conceal, and those guys often want some extra nonsense, look on original prototype of Mk. 23. By the way it wasn't really intended as pdw, handing it to drivers and such was afterthought, "they don't really need full power rifle and this thing is already developed and way cheaper", secret police wanted it as primary weapon.

[@krisgibbon2199]

Being the resident gun nerd at my work, I love when people come to me with questions about guns. I've helped two guys pick out guns so far, and both of them were really happy with their purchases.

[@hecksters423]

1:19 I can imagine Mike Forrest Gumping that M16A2.

[@stradleybidley8893]

Dont take it the wrong way, but nam had the a1 , different carry handle, sights, and furniture, and the a2 has a burst i stead of auto. But , as the giys from road to el droado said, "both?"both"both is good"

[@kdh6387]

@@stradleybidley8893 It's because OP is referring to the gun disassembly scene from Forrest Gump and Mike had M16A2(later M4A1) in the Marines.

[@LukeCrawford-n7n]

Bullet sizes are like pizza sizes. If you want a 10" pizza and they give you two 5" pizzas, you're getting a little under half the pizza you asked for. If you go from getting a 12" pizza to a 16" pizza you're eating almost twice as much. Except pizzas are almost 2D. Bullets have a third dimension that increases this difference even more, and the powder charge increases significantly too.

[@TheCreaturesfan1]

The Scorpion is a beautiful gun, amazing choice Also Zach, hell yeah. I love my .45LC revolver, shoutout to Ocelot.

[@AnotherOtherMan-alive]

Weird fact about the colt single action army: It's really fucking expensive in Canada IF it was made prior to the antique date (same as US) because you don't need a licence to own one.

[@WolfHreda]

Zach basically hooking Mike up throughout the whole process is great. A good friend and a good gun salesman.

[@Lanewreck]

Every time i hear that guns name, i have ptsd of tactical yoga pants and girzmont mines.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

Oh the funny exploding ice cream mine, ruined many a round for me and the enemy attackers.

[@devilin100]

Strobe lights are just the silliest thing. Every time I've done force on force training with guys who thought there were a good idea they get all pissed off when they get absolutely light up with simuntition as they walk through a door with the assumption that we wouldn't see the light pointed right at us and the goofy mf holding the bang stick it was attached to.

[@aries144]

In the late 90s, SWAT units all over the country switched from the MP5 to short barrel AR15s... because ballistic testing showed that 5.56 penetrated fewer drywall walls than 9mm. Turns out in drywall, mass and momentum were bigger factors than velocity.

[@lewisbarrett4391]

Honestly the Campfire Stories are my favourite videos on this channel, been watching for the last 4-5 years, absolutely love how much their conversations remind me of myself and my own closest friends.

[@AuthorZachJames]

25:03 Zach (hello, other Zach here), THANK YOU. I am so sick of the tactical "industry/community" and their stance on only buying very specific guns because of their practical applications (i.e. Gucci'd out AR and Glock cloned after SOF). Guns are fun. Guns are cool. End of story!!

[@trenchcoatbandit]

grandfather nurgal has blessed me with the cold. mike has blessed me with gun shenanigans

[@Armorpiercer]

Mike and his subtitles effect, I love everytime you put cutting effect when zach mentions cutting gun components

[@matthorvath9951]

So happy to see a Full Metal Panic Fumoffu reference. That season was comedy gold.

[@chrismeandyou]

That's an old cut alright

[@emosgowoof]

It's actually my favorite of the series, before everything got too damned serious and melodramatic, with all sorts of bs. The Bunta mini as' we're also amazing and I wish was a thing IRL.

[@RetroGrey-fs6w]

The fact that Zach went on about my favorite Anime Comedy….

[@FLuXX_PwR]

I'm glad Zach had the same philosophy when recommending a gun to Mike that I usually do. Seeing as you two are frequently together, the Evo makes sense. Personally what I always recommend to anybody that doesn't know anything (or have the gun autist friend) is the Extar EP9. It's dead simple, inexpensive, uses about every double stack 9mm Glock mag available, doesn't kick like a mule like most blowback 9mm PCCs, weighs like 4lb loaded, and is unfair how dependable it is. Shotguns and ARs get BTFO because the best gun for the newbie is the easiest one to use. Shotguns aren't magic and whiffing with an AR can have serious consequences.

[@Ebwite]

Lmao I love the reference to the military switching to 6.8. Zach is right, it’ll be a *long* time before we see the sig spears and their LMG variants, but that’s more due to the current cost of 6.8, as it is a generally new and still a niche round, and the fact that we have such a surplus of M16/M4s (with tons of spare parts for them) that they will want to use up before fully adopting it. Maybe special forces will be using spears soon, but that’s still unlikely.

[@GenMav]

Finally Validated, a favorite internet celebrity likes one of my favorite under rated animes.

[@Zo11omify]

As a fellow salesman at a gun shop, it makes me feel proud to provide a better option for those that aren't well versed into firearms. Especially when it comes to people purchasing they're first firearm Side note: The shop I work at we have reps from multiple companies come through, and we had the Trijicon rep out doing product familiarization with us. When he was discussing the RMR and showing it off, he showed us an RMR that had been in a truck fire. Besides it being charred and burnt to hell, the glass was still good, and the emitter was still intact. Along with the optic being able to hold zero under extreme abuse and being dismounted, for the price of it and with a good quality mounting plate, it's definitely the best pistol red dot sight on the market for the money. I will definitely endorse it since I've had mine for 3 years and still haven't changed the battery in it. 😂😂

[@fuzzythoughts8020]

The original skorpion is actually one of my favorite SMG's ever. Found out watching ForgottenWeapons that they have functionally no recoil.

[@positivitybot03]

Yknow, as a brit, I was vaguely bemused but willing to accede to differences in culture when I found that Zach and Mike have guns for home defense, as far as I know, the police response times are actually that bad, but I couldn't help but feel it was excessive. Then the bear story came in, and I remembered that whilst we hunted all of our large predators to extinction, other people have not yet destroyed their ecosystem thusly.

[@Buttsmcgee069]

There is nothing abnormal about owning guns.

[@smokefire3]

I do like you sitting in a Pub talking shit for these campfire stories...cause as a British man I can say you're doing it correctly! sitting in a pub talking about whatever, put a couple of drinks on the counter infront for extra authenticity!

[@TapRackTV]

Hearing how Zach helped Mike sounds exactly how I try to help my customers at the gun shop I work at. Feels good.

[@forgottenbeing]

25:35 I impulse bought my Walther P99 because it was featured in James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing and it was subtly imprinted into my impressionable young mind as the coolest handgun ever

[@Calvin_Coolage]

The P99 is a really cool gun.

[@forgottenbeing]

@@Calvin_Coolage Oh I absolutely love it, very comfortable and very reliable (unless you accidentally install the recoil spring guide backwards). My only problems at the time were that I was fresh out of college, no job, about $800 to my name, and my mom was very anti gun at the time so she had two valid reasons for being mad at me about it

[@arj4y]

Happy Zach and Mike got to go to the range. They have been talking about that often.

[@swampwyag676]

I have a semi auto vz 61 and it is so much fun. I took it out to an outdoor range for the first time and was surprised to discover that the casings actually make a "whizz" as they fly through the air. Little guy YEETS those things

[@herpicusmc.derpington2878]

Me Grug, Grug simple. Grug like CZ guns because CZ good. Grug happy. Mike be like Grug

[@JulianLares]

Gun salesman and Evo 3+ owner here, thumps more than you would think for a 9mm, and its because of its cycling system. Its straight blowback so its sending like, 22-24 ounces of iron back and forth every time it cycles a new round which just amplifies the recoil way more than the 9mms actually producing. Mp5s and the MPX are the only major 9mm rifles that try to do something different that doesn't thump like a 5.56 rifle, and both Mp5s and Mpxs are worth the extra investment cause they really do have like, 40% less recoil with the same bullet. But man i love my Evo 3+, got a suppressor and a 4" barrel so its a 9" in length altogether, and the stock folds, so its super compact. The biggest reason you want a 9mm rifle is accuracy over pistols, and cheapest possible ammunition short of 22lr. I can get a 4 inch group at 20ish yards with a handgun, i can get a 2-3 inch group at 50 yards with my 4" CZ.

[@librarianseth5572]

The new question is whether or not Zach could design and manufacture a firearm of his own imagining were he to be given the proper resources. He knows so much about normal guns that I'd love to see him try and innovate

[@MattMerica76]

Thats one hell of a first time gun purchase

[@LexYeen]

I mean, Mike's not _inexperienced._

[@Pippy1]

EXPENSIVE first gun but he had zach to guide him

[@90faces4]

The "Someone at B&T took a buzzsaw and just went BVVVVT! and cut..." caught me completely off guard. This is why I watch MBF. (MikeBurnFire)

[@ArcticArmy]

yknow, using "mbf" and then having to immediatly clarify, completely nullifies the point of using the acronym in the first place

[@SuicidalRevolver]

Mike: I want something that reminds me of an AR Zach: Doesn't get him an AR9

[@Zach_Hazard]

the problem with an AR-9 is that they vary in quality pretty widely, and the good ones generally cost more than a Evo3 will.

[@SuicidalRevolver]

I feel you. I too had a really difficult time picking out my AR9 due to all the weird compatibility issues. Was gonna go with PSA AR9 but I heard how good the Foxtrot Mike FM9 was. Went with it and it's hands down my favorite gun to shoot. Scorpion was also on my radar but the OOB scare got me, and didn't feel like dumping another $250 on a proper bolt to fix it.

[@spectre9078]

@@Zach_Hazardwont an mpx work well? Or is it too expensive or somethin?

[@SuicidalRevolver]

@@spectre9078 Cheapest variant is $1.5k lol, and it's the shitty stub version

[@rolo6676]

1. Zach's whole rant about pistol optics, is basically why i dont use them. So im +1 to my fudd score 2. Lever action carbines are amazing. +1 to fudd score. 3. I was in love with my 9mm Beretta CX4 gen 2. But unfortunately i had to sell her. It made me feel like an astronaut. -1 to Marvin Martian score. 4. A good tip i heard for 9mm carbine as defense tool; Hornady Critical duty/defense rounds have a ballistic tip feature. Which is great if you are concerned about over penetration. I did some testing with them and sure enough they would either stop in a wood stud or poop out the backside of it. Good home defense ammo in my case. But ofcourse picking a safe angle is the #1 safety.

[@Warrickomega]

Watched this last mike, glad to hear you had a good time of purchasing your first own firearm with Zach!

[@thebladeofchaos]

Mike, I think it's you editing these. if not, pass this to whoever is the editor. I love the work you do with the subtitles to add to what's being said. the Buzzsaw bit had me laughing way too much

[@blackvial]

All you need is a musket for home defense like the founding fathers intended

[@Bubben246]

Four ruffians break into my house

[@TheTimoprimo]

@@Bubben246What the devil?!

[@popebryanii7224]

​@@TheTimoprimoas I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle.

[@theedittingjoke]

Remember you need to register your pantaloons and cufflinks. As well as the ruffles collars and powdered wigs. Tally-Ho *loads musket*

[@badgermole4150]

Idk how KZbin would feel about it but I would love a Mike and Zach range day video

[@TheHacknor]

Think it's just physically reloading a magazine the bots don't like

[@lucrativelucas2655]

That would be really cool

[@TheOnlyFMP]

Someone at Cz looked at the hardware/smartphone market and said: "That's our now naming method for our firearms."

[@lunareclipse1882]

Mike is joining the conga line of gun hermit XD

[@Venicilia]

A little late to comment, but I got so happy when I heard Zach mention FMP Fumoffu. Its one of my favourite series and I still listen to the soundtrack 14 years after the first time I watched it.

[@Darkfire7881]

I love the CZ Škorpion too, because of how goofy it looks. But also because I loved using it in OG CoD 4 Modern Warfare

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

6:03 oh god you're my spirit animal lol I'm an instructor and I've had to deal with the older women with revolvers that their husbands told them they needed and they struggle getting through a permit qualification which is only 36 rounds on a target half the size of a doorway. Its that or a Ruger LCP they can't run the slide on I bring a case of rental guns to every class because of this

[@shrimpanzy7627]

Living in griz country, if you're looking for a semi auto defensive handgun 10mm is the only real option. Revolvers have the benefit of larger rounds, but if you miss the first shot on a griz with something high recoil, you won't have time to place another shot before it's on you.

[@Mr.Redink]

My favorite "specific Autistic Hyperfixation" dispenser has logged tf on 😩

[@Gormagon510]

I'm planning on getting a 10m as my first handgun specifically because i want to go camping out in bear country. So im glad to hear the specific reinforcement on bear purposes

[@theedittingjoke]

“You can buy a single action army revolver because it’s neat.” How did you know!? He’s in my brain!

[@vruxdrossgaming]

Revolver Ocelot doing his revolver tricks intensifies.

[@akelenajem431]

Imagine a world where mike did get an M16 and he somehow broke it and Zach had to fix it for him And it's just zach sitting there having a ptsd episode

[@polarknight5376]

Zach:"you dont need the AR, just get something in 9mm, the only thing you would possibly use this for is self defense in your home." Also Zach:"40 rounds isn't enough, what if you get 41 home intruders on the same night!?"

[@polarknight5376]

This is a joke BTW.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

*magpul drum has entered the chat*

[@roykennedy]

40 intruders and 1 fat cat on the couch

[@driftertank]

It's an unfortunate fact of life that any round that will reach the vitals in a bad guy will also go through multiple US-standard interior walls. Also, suppressors are fantastic for indoor use.

[@goldenchicken2327]

A range video with Zach and Mike would be a dream come true.

[@Bakecrusto]

I can't believe Zach talked Mike out of getting the only gun he knows in favor of some artisanal Czech rifle he can't even remember the name of. ..What am I saying, I absolutely can believe it

[@DesertDuc]

Talking about the lever action being fairly quiet, I used to own a Marlin 39A .22 and I got my hands on some CCI .22 Short "CB" rounds for a laugh. The hammer striking the firing pin was for sure louder than the report. In fact, the sound of the round hitting a steel target was downright loud by comparison! That thing was legitimately as quiet if not quieter than a BB gun! Now, .22 short CBs probably aren't much more powerful than a BB gun anyways, but to have a proper firearm be that quiet without the use of a suppressor is impressive, and as a critter gitter in back-yard ranges it had more than enough output.

[@johnb3587]

Man now I want to rewatch full metal panic Zach’s souske sagara impression is on point

[@zestylobstertail4277]

I can literally listen to zach talk to mike about his interests all day

[@Omrifere]

I want you to know you put me in an autistic rage by using the words "control familiarity" while comparing the M16 and the CZ Scorpion EVO 3. I own several ARs and an EVO 3. My wife is now laughing at me over how upset I am.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

I mean it kinda does if you squint really hard after a couple beers.

[@Omrifere]

​@@Calvin_Coolage , yeah, that's how I came home with a KUSA KP9 instead of a Scorpion EVO 3 4 years ago 🤣

[@russellhoffman2289]

I knew a guy who had a strobe on his pistol that would alternate green and purple lights. It actually hurt to look at. We were pretty sure that thing would give you epilepsy.

[@graysongdl]

Small editing touch I appreciate is how, when either Mike or Zach quote the other, the subtitles use a lighter variation of the other's outline color as the fill color, while still keeping the outline color of the person actually saying it in the video. That's a fun little detail most people probably wouldn't notice or think to point out!

[@frost7476]

You guys are the definition of a beautiful friendship. I love listening to you guys talking like this and just having a good time. Reminds me of when me and my buddies would hang out at the bar after a range day. Thank you for this!

[@danielkruyer5425]

2:09 Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry & Knuckles

[@doctorfaust9759]

The spelling and font change for the gun is the greatest gag in the whole video

[@Cynic_6489]

i honestly expected Mike would just jump straight for an M16A2 clone with Zach helping him build it since well, he knows his way around it from his days in the USMC. but the Scorpion does make sense for a first timer gun too

[@isengarde9490]

I wonder if Zach's ever heard of the Pedersen rifle. This has become one of my new gun fixations. So, the Pedersen rifle is basically a scaled up Luger pistol, it's got the same toggle bolt, and it's chambered in a unique caliber that is now exceptionally rare due to the Pedersen being basically a prototype of the M1 Garand, and what they did was they took a 1903 Springfield, chopped out the bolt, and put the Luger toggle system in there to basically fire 9mm in semi-auto. Then they figured out how to reverse engineer it after the rifle trials for the Army and told the generals 'Wait, we can upscale the caliber to fire something a bit harder hitting than this dinky little pistol round.' and they created an entirely new caliber of bullet specifically for this gun that as far as I know has never been used since. At least, not specifically .276 Pedersen, but I'm not sure what other rifles since then are chambered in 7x51mm. It's weird, and not really all that practical, but I love toggle lock firearms simply because it's not standard issue design.