10 Ways to Move Past the Frustration and Improve with Fighting Games

[@quietspark8703]

My rules that I genuinely try to stick to for fighting games: 1. Accept that you suck 2. ACCEPT THAT YOU SUCK 3. Embrace the suck 4. Celebrate losses that teach you something 5. Win with grace

[@tableprinterdoor]

Coming to this video after a loss streak is really a good way to calm down, think stuff over, take a break and go back on later. I do it often.

[@marvelo_vs]

Glad it helps!! 🙏

[@Bangarang341]

Something that might help. I don't know who you are, and I don't know about your loss streak you had. I know that I've been bouncing between floors 3 and 6 in Guilty Gear Strive for weeks now, but you didn't until I told you. Once you told me, though, I didn't change my opinion of you, I just empathized. I guess I'm trying to say we all lose and it's easy to get down on yourself, but the losses never mean as much to anyone else as they do to you. I hope this rambling helps lol

[@zepolcin2412]

I cry out loud when you say “free your mind” so loosely….it’s so hard I’ve been trying for a decade now

[@junior1388666]

Just have fun, you'll win more

[@soullesspancake7405]

Try medetaing and relax. And accept the worst outcome so you can focus on present.

[@jude-rvr]

​@@junior1388666WOAH!!!!! NO SHIT REALLY??????? I NEVER EVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT!! ALL OF MY PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED FOREVER!!!!!!!

[@myyoutubecommentschannel8784]

You should hear Zenyatta say it

[@ar7hur06]

​@@junior1388666b#tch, i've been trying for a decade. "Just" have fun? Wdym juts have fun when I barely get to even play in a match??

[@zepolcin2412]

This will be a gem for years man.

[@YTmadeMeChangeMySensibleName]

I once beat a tournament player in his own home after an hour and a half straight of getting my shit kicked in. Patience and discipline is so important.

[@luisbo3]

I was sold the moment the screen showed "surrender your ego". This is one is struggle for me but im doing my best to internalize it every day.

[@Gang3rs]

1. give up your ego. ok, dont got much so im good. 2. FG are about discipline. alright, i can do that. 3. belive in yourself. ......fuck

[@Zoned0ut123]

mind is matter.

[@Chickensea10]

Street fighter 6 is so amazing for newcomers! The training modes, world tour in itself secretly teaches you fundamentals of fighting games and you start to just flow with it! FIND YOUR OWN FLOW EVERYONE!

[@Lanzetsu]

Man! I couldn't forget after the patch you said "Let's go this year Evo champ with Chipp" and was rooting so hard on the CEO... you almost had it! Congrats on the 3rd place tho, it was super stacked and you played super well, still amazing so many combos and conversions or pickups with Chipp, don't give up!

[@marvelo_vs]

Thank you so much! You never know lol. There is a reality where that happens. Appreciate the support. 🙏

[@Lanzetsu]

@@marvelo_vs Thsnks to you for sticking to the character you like, best of luck on the next big major, gonna be rooting for you as always.

[@asdfjgh]

Needed this man, I got drunk yesterday and lost 10 matches in a row

[@locdogg86]

The best thing for me is find someone that’s really good but also knows how to get better and teach really well. I know a lot of people that are good but have 0 ability to backtrack and understand why you suck outside of really obvious “anti air, optimal combos”etc..

[@dudemangodperson]

These tips helped so, so much! I was frustrated loosing almost every match on Fightcade and I've been playing fighting games for 8 years. I actually startes to get better at Super Street Fighter II Turbo when I started paying attention more to the opponent's habits, and I actually started to experiment more on lower level players.

[@iTzCarlosH]

Hey man, I'm from Brazil, sorry for my English, so I'm currently going through a difficult phase in learning FG and man, I've never been so frustrated as I am now, and your video really gives me strength to keep trying to learn, I really appreciate your words, and I certainly want these words to reach many people who are going through what I'm going through, thank you very much, I will succeed, and I will improve and to everyone who is reading this, see you on top.

[@marvelo_vs]

@@iTzCarlosH good luck my new Brazilian friend. 🙏

[@rayray19wun]

This is really well done bro! Keep em coming

[@marvelo_vs]

Thank you my dude! Appreciate it a lot my man.

[@astjuly8239]

Great video. But the only thing I would like to say is that footsies aren't basics, spacing, OKI and whiff punishes are. Footsies is more of a misterious concept we all know exists, but not exactly how it works

[@cenglish7240]

Found this just after a rough 2 hours in ranked SF6 and it helped so thank you. I struggle with getting bored with flowchart/autopilot players who just don't stop doing their thing even if it's been successfully punished several times. I really need to find a way to not zone out when I realize they're constantly doing the same thing regardless of what I do. It's so much fun when my opponent changes their approach after I find an answer to their attacks, but flowchart players really take the fun out of that exchange pretty fast and I lose from not caring anymore.

[@JustAutistic]

For me I desperately want to enjoy fighting games, and I want to feel like I belong with the fighting game crowd. And I hate how I get frustrated at myself for.. well, getting frustrated at losing. For me, I think I hold myself back massively, and want to enjoy getting good at things, and be competitive with other people.

[@MrSparknote]

Amazing. Thank you for putting this together. When I felt so down about my playing, this hit my recommended. Great advice, not just for the FGC, but for life overall.

[@notcreativeatall8157]

For me what really destroys me is my doomer attitude lol I blame myself for everything but I don't believe in myself, so I end up thinking "man I suck at this I should uninstall". Also it doesn't help that everytime I play the game I'm shaking and my heart rate is ultra fast. I get so nervous just by seeing other people.

[@marvelo_vs]

Just remember that you CAN accomplish anything you want. Don't let your doomer attitude win! You can do it! Use the anxiety as excitement and just breathe. 🙏

[@neobahumut707]

I can understand that feeling, I'm similar, once I get on a lose streak i'm like ugh was i even good to begin with, then i get shaky and start doubting everything, but i used to be so bad i would be scared seeing any other people so i get where your coming from! I can see that I have gotten better at it over the years, but i think we're experiencing a bit of both the lack of confidence tip as well as the having fundamentals not be muscle memory part as well. Good luck to you!

[@loopseeker]

ive been doing some sf6 soul searching and this is exactly what i needed 😭

[@Zoned0ut123]

Hold you’re manly seed + meditation alone carried me, blessed be the holy one who gave us the energy.

[@MuJoNeSs]

What an awesome video. Well edited too. Super informative. I could not agree more. Thanks a lot, Marvelo! Soon you'll win your major, for sure. I'll be cheering for your Chipp.

[@kreator5916]

The fact that me and my gameplay make cameos in this is so hype to me lol, super good shit, keep grinding that content 👀

[@mistah_mojo]

Honestly don't know why people aren't talking about this video, this is a gold mine!

[@veracaelestis]

saw this video, literally as I was going into the lab in strive and was like hey I should listen to this and Loved it!!! thanks marvelo!!!

[@marvelo_vs]

Thanks for your support as always. 🙏

[@Twisted_fgc]

Eleven and a half minutes of cold hard facts, 80/20 rule is huge in all facets of life esp FGs like you said. Good ass video.

[@wolfwoodphreak]

good to see you still at the grind. been a long time since we were smashing knuckles in every major game(both video and table) there is. i feel you though, i recall back when we were the biggest rookies in our squad

[@marvelo_vs]

Good to hear from you bro. Back then we were all scrubs. Eventually I decided to play competitively and enter tournaments, and that's where I started from the bottom. Playing against people that were so insanely better than me was addicting! Eventually I got really good. Hope you enjoy all the content. 🤙

[@wolfwoodphreak]

@marvelo_vs loving it so far. I'm actually still a total novice at Joystick play which became alarmingly clear when I jumped back into arcade gaming Sunday and was useless in sf4 which I'm at least a solid medium level player on control. guess it's finally time to learn on it lol. oh send a big hello to Tokido if you ever meet him for me. he's one of my fighting game idols lol

[@marvelo_vs]

@@wolfwoodphreak joysticks are unnecessary to learn if you aren't already used to them or unless you just want to. I play on a leverless controller nowadays. If you feel most comfortable with a pad, that's totally okay.

[@justingoers]

Great video. The last two points are things I’ve been neglecting. I haven’t been watching my replays and I haven’t been experimenting in casuals. Thanks for the tips!

[@PneumoniaFGC]

Number 8 is a great tip!! Las tip also is so valuable!! Nice video!!!

[@xoxonho00]

What it is interesting is that im gold 2 in sf6 and im fine with it, what triggers me the most is when i fight someone that uses basics skills, no cancels into Drive Rush, not even CA, no combos, im supposed to be able to counter their game, but my brain shuts off for some reason and i get my ass kicked. Not even mad at the other player just at myself for not being able to react to the basics.

[@cinnabarsin4288]

I love the arcade cabs in SF6 battle hub, almost everyone just wants to play sets and work on stuff and it doesn't feel bad to get knocked in the mouth. Got wrecked by a Juri for like 45 minutes today and only took a couple rounds across the whole time but it was a great experience in trying to adjust to their pressure where a single match wouldn't have given me any insight or ideas to improve.

[@PipeRetrogamer]

I just don't get ppl who throws a game or an entire genre out of frustration. I get frustrated, yeah, but that's never made me quit. Wasting my time on games with broken netcode or matchmaking on the other hand...

[@mariotaz]

If I lose: You're sad and should go outside and touch grass If I win: You suck

[@Affinity2412]

Excellent video my dude 💪

[@marvelo_vs]

Thanks bro, hope you've been good my dude. You are missed in FL.

[@xcreenplay7264]

Number 8 is literally what made me play fighting games better 😅

[@theblackhokage]

Great video 🙏🏾

[@danielcotten9941]

This video is fantastic. Very well put together, good advice and leveling. Nicely done. Also, I heard that Hollow Knight BGM. A man of culture.

[@Doktor_Jones]

You got something brown on your nose

[@JordanStewart-um2yd]

Huge fan! I’ve been wanting to get into Mortal Kombat 1 as my first competitive fighting game as my main man Liu Kang and I have to say, a lot of this frustration/mental anguish is a real thing for a new player and this video should help big time, I should say.

[@samtotheg]

i think the issue is the people suck at teaching fighting games ...like teaching is a skill but saying dumb shit like figure it out is not helping someone learn or just block . Ok then after block what sometimes its not your turn like there has to be better ways to learn it but this video did have some interesting things to try.

[@samtotheg]

also watching match footage does nada when basic opponents dont fight like pros do ..alot of my matches are dude rushes me to corner and does never ending combos wash rinse repeat idk when i have my turn to attack.

[@Eggroll3s]

Ive gotten pretty good over the years and STILL experience this. Felt it hard after sf6's release. This video helped so much. Marvelo my GOAT 🙏

[@SophistictaedDevil]

Needed this. Great Video.

[@marvelo_vs]

Thank you!

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

What really frustrates me is thinking and feeling im getting better at sf6, im plat 5 and im beating diamonds then come up against some random ken and get completely destroyed, its just like how do i beat good players then barely even be able to touch someone, just dunno what to do against players like that, its like they can read and react to literally everything im doing ffs😂

[@iilunatiik96]

I feel you on this and I think it’s a combo of surrendering to autopilot and not adapting to the opponent. Autopilot in the sense that we get used to flowchart players so the moment one plays different than we’re used to and we dont adapt we just get sweeped lol

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

@@iilunatiik96 yeah probably true, still stuck on how to read people better, maybe i just need more experience

[@LAPRlZ]

After watching this video I am now able to play against Happy Chaos and have fun!

[@3starherotranslation717]

This video came at the right time. Was getting bodied in ranked matches and feeling discouraged. Thank you so much! BTW What's the song at 4:36 ? It's so familiar and strangely nostalgic.

[@marvelo_vs]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6Gugp56ncmJoqc

[@zephyr5481]

You know, I was planning on commenting something amounting to "This is bullshit, I've heard these same things so much before, I've sunk so much time into casuals and experimentation, I've sunk so much time into honing in training mode, I don't physically have the reaction speed to react to 26 frame mids (disabilities, woo)" But, something about your 8th point is sticking with me. Just do nothing sometimes. I doubt it'll actually let me enjoy these games again, but its something I haven't heard before and I would probably be able to do. So, thanks, I think.

[@zephyr5481]

Update: After trying my best to be mindful and patient, and notably succeeding in that, I ragequit a session in record time. These tips don't fucking matter if my inputs never come out. For fuck's sake.

[@treehann]

What’s the music in the “believe in yourself” section? I love it! And i love this video! Thank you for all the advice. I’m working on my mental game hardcore right now!

[@erikvazquez559]

Thank you, best video I’ve seen on improving in fighting games

[@horplesmoff]

Awesome video dude

[@jevilshiftyz]

yo marvelo will you make a chipp guide soon?

[@thejokergotham384]

I wish there was someone in my life that also played so i could bounce tech off w them i love training mode its helped me more than anything else but having another person w training mode explaining what theyve also learned seens to be a huge factor in the top tiers

[@ymotle]

I came here to get better at fighting games not to get better at life but I'm not complaining 😂❤

[@epoc3338]

Exactly what I was looking for omg

[@naejimba]

Wow nice video instant sub

[@AsuraSwagDaddy]

Super informative video 🙏🏽

[@ZawaOnYoutube]

Guess we'll give this vid a chance 😂

[@MommysGoodPuppy]

my fucking GOAT

[@theremgalarnadkudd7409]

good video i found you on twitch did not know your content so i check the link and it is a nice video. Great Chipp player I am also a Chipp player as well looking for stuff that helps me to improve, Thanks for the video!

[@nyubisensei1322]

kind of video I needed

[@vxoblivionxv]

I will never follow number 3 and you can't make me

[@Oyi_14]

My reads are ass, my defence is wet paper, the only good thing i have going for me are my executions

[@daveyinblade]

Maybe not AS effective as the others but if i were to add an 11th entry, "take breaks". Coming back with fresh eyes and sometimes even abstract stuff from other games can translate to fighting games. Personally, learning GCD and OGCD in ff14 helped me get the hang of timing cause it built in a rhythem otherwise not there for me

[@kinokazama]

Very useful videos thank you so much

[@fps_predat0r]

Great vid!

[@TJCozy]

Amazing video

[@hakuyowane4448]

NGL. . .I kinda gave up on improving I don't see the point anymore if I play I just play for whatever "fun" I can get if any and if there is no fun I just quit. IDC to play tournaments nothing and the more I tackle it the more I understand that sure I play fighting games but I am a glutton for punishment as this is def not my genre of game at all...plus if I get good who will play with me? Not my friends I'd be too good and I'd be a "sweat" but if I let myself get too bad nobody would want to play with me either...IDK.

[@Bangarang341]

Thank you for this video.

[@epi652]

Song at 7:48? I know I've heard it many times but I can't for the life of me remember what game it's in lol

[@ysmael2280]

Greenpath from Hollow Knight

[@EDarien]

I find myself torn between wanting to be better, get into Diamond so I can eventually get to Master and wanting to put in the work of learning situations better, practicing them more vs just hopping online for fun matches. I grinded my first main up to Plat 1. Then with 2-3 other characters I've straight up placed into Plat 4 or Plat 5. I've yet to break that Diamond marker, but I'll also go months without playing and not sure how much effort I really want to put into it vs just having some matches and playing for fun. Maybe it'll change when Ed comes out since he's my intended main (He was my main in SF5).

[@AlanJonesu]

What's the piece that plays @5:20? It sounds so familiar.

[@IceColdProfessional]

Fighting games are another form of chess. The greatest battles and moves are against yourself and your own mental weaknesses.

[@omens255]

I understand someone has to lose but like, i was on a role just a week ago now all if a sudden its like im the villain that joined that good guy team and got nerfd

[@ninjasoft1130]

My problem is that I'm just rushing things to be a pro I tried to be patient but I kept on rushing to learn combos but I know it's not gonna be easy, I should just start over study everything from basics to impossible not everyone become a pro by the same thing they become pros with their own different paths

[@sleepfgc]

You can do it, I believe in you.

[@meliodazwrath7079]

good shit

[@ysmael2280]

Siiiiiick

[@sweetlikedonuts8581]

my problem are combos in sf6. I can block high lows, I can punish jump ins and DIs I can anti air but I cant combo. the timing on the inputs are the weirdest thing I have ever laid my hands upon, I cannot manage it for the life of me

[@mibbzx1493]

Im already giving up on fighting game and not because im not good at them, im very good at fighting games. I just dont agree with the route that fighting game devs have been taking the last decade or so with catering to new players and dumbing down mechanics and implementing forced mechanics that can carrying players despite them being good/bad and its like when are you going to remove the training wheels and actually stop spoon feeding them into thinking they are good. I have nothing wrong with new ppl getting into fighting games and i just teach on the sidelines now because i dont like putting my time into something that scrubs can thrive off of and it hobestly has been pissing me off with the recent entry of SF6. Is it a bad game no, the netcode is great and its fun but i dont like the drive mechanics that mess up the neutral/footsie game and its not under my control at all and the devs know that they make frustrating mechanics on purpose to get ppl to keep playing their game. Sf6 has been the most disappointing game this year for me and i already uninstalled it just because of how easy and simplified they made the neutral game. I just want a good fighting game and i havent gotten one in the last decade of playing them and its truly sad that the genre is going down this route.

[@ShisamiiGames]

I hope you comeback I can understand but imo footsie thing with Sf has been like that since before 4 hella characters got Bs to skip neutral. So I find it funny when people say that. the devs put mechanics like this so people casuals to pro players don’t throw the game away. Samurai showdown is a perfect example it feels too boring for a majority of people. That’s a game you could look into but i wouldn’t can recommend this game tho. Grandblue fantasy versus relink.( comes out in winter 2023) It seems like a game you would maybe like check out grandblue Fantasy versus. ( it’s predecessor) I think you may take a real good liking to it.

[@dagui2973]

Got to give this a like and a comment. Algorithm.

[@kaizerwave6185]

Whats the music for the first tip at 0:01:02?

[@liviousgameplay1755]

Commenting so I also get the reply.

[@778mac]

Song at 6:50 ?

[@Reachmadness]

what is the song is it you use? i need it

[@starbutter2730]

Whats the song at 3:05

[@ladyscribe21]

How do I do nothing in a game that has a negative penalty for playing too passively?

[@Doktor_Jones]

Don't take these advices srsly. These are just crutches

[@angeliair2967]

Does anybody know the name of the song that plays at #3 3:04?

[@marvelo_vs]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6Gugp56ncmJoqc

[@Siberianhusky89]

"Be humble" - *Shows STRIVE. A game that Leffen won at EVO. One of the least humble people in the fighting game community.* *Shows Hotashi. Another person who is absolutely not humble and lies about people and isn't even that good at XRD*

[@TheMadZocker]

*After the first point.* Welp... ...Your mom.

[@Zoned0ut123]

w

[@EddielGonzalez-nv1qk]

Maybe fighting games aren’t for me…

[@Siberianhusky89]

I'm sorry man, I want to watch your video, but I hate STRIVE. It's not a real Guilty Gear game is isn't even one that's designed well. It even craps on the most fundamental aspects of fighting games.