How To Control Case & CPU Fans On MSI Motherboards UPDATED 2022

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@vincentpurel]

thanks

[@moey313.]

my pump fan 1 is at 3000rpm how do i make it lower

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@mohammadabdulwahed6509]

This video just saved me a hell of a problem. My pc was built by a store (I only chose the components) and i updated my bios so all the settings were restored to default and pump fans went crazy. I had no idea how the cooling was connected and Google/YT were of no help. After explaining 3pins=DC and 4pins=pwm, I checked the specifications of my cooling and boom problem solved. Thank you alot and please keep these videos coming ❤️ love from Kuwait 🇰🇼

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks and glad it is all working now. I am guessing it is quite warm there, so working cooling is essential

[@nickolson000]

@@mikesunboxing hi Mike, I have msi z490m-s01 and my sys fans has 3 pin connected, but BIOS shows me only PWM mode and rpm always 1000 so how to control it in that case ?

[@moey313.]

my pump fan 1 is at 3000rpm how do i make it lower

[@kyrebanorg9897]

Thank you for this video! I just set up a new computer with an MSI motherboard and had no idea how to get the fans to turn down, they were so loud! The fan hub for my case fans was set to DC but they were PWM! As soon as I set it to auto they calmed right down. Now I can actually get some work done, thank you!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help!

[@IAMBrenner]

This is a great guide! It answered all of my questions and also made me realize how overkill my fans were running. I finally set a curve and it’s so much easier to hear my games now!

[@mikesunboxing]

awesome glad to hear it

[@Keaudi23]

Bruh I thank you so much lmao. I went from two 120mm PWM fans to two noctua 140mm redux for intakes and they were so loud. Didn't even think about changing to DC. Love ya and keep up the good work!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad we could help

[@moey313.]

my pump fan 1 is at 3000rpm how do i make it lower

[@roquemacias4616]

Long comment but for anyone out there who this can be useful for: Recently upgraded my PC, still new to PC building and this upgrade was my first time using anything more than stock cooling (I got myself an EK AIO Elite, because why not). Got a Ryzen 7 5800X and an MSI B550 MAG Tomahawk with a 3070, and was blessed with the beloved red CPU light after I put everything together. Fans spun and lit up *quietly* and all was well but no post! A tech at Microcenter was able to figure out that it was a loose PSU cable apparently, and the PC boots now but surprise!! When you power the PC on the CPU light still turns on, but goes away after a few seconds, and then the fans start REVVVVVING at about their 100% just seconds after for a while, and were revving heavy on and off for a while until I was able to come across this wonderful video. Still nervous about my PC, I have a feeling I need to repaste my CPU perhaps, but we shall see. It might be hot, and it doesn't help that Speccy won't show me temp readings because it just says AMD K17 many times again and again. Will be fiddling around in the days that come hoping to get the current ambient temperature (55 C according to the BIOS) down to around 40C-45 C, or anything less than 55 C. Haven't figured out how to check thermals under load but we'll see what I do... This PC build project has taken much longer than I would've hoped (still waiting to get some screws that were missing from the EK AIO, missing an exhaust fan at the moment...), but this channel has actually had a video for EVERY since issue I've come across so far. My personal favorite PC channel on the internet, thank you so much Mike and good luck to all of you that encounter any roadblocks!

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks very much and hope you get to be bottom of it, if you still cant get to grips with it join our discord chat and we can try and figure it out

[@warzone_clout]

You should not have to go into your bios to monitor thermals. Google a compatible hardware monitor for your pc. I GUARENTEE your problem is the fact that you has a POS motherboard (nice and cheap/old too).... and are trying to use a 3070 on it. Also, your cpu is now about 3 generations old if not more, so you could be bottlenecking your GPU via your cpu AND motherboard. SCARED TO EVEN ASK ABOUT RAM, SSD AND PSU...

[@warzone_clout]

and get intel lol

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@charlesballard5251]

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!! I just built a new system last weekend (I'm fairly certain I've already told you about it as pertaining to another video or two of yours that I watched) and this really explains much that I needed to know. I'm going to reboot now, go into my bios and check my CPU fan. I am now subscribed!!!

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks for the sub and don't forget you can join our free discord chat for more help and also friendly banter

[@moey313.]

my pump fan 1 is at 3000rpm how do i make it lower

[@PaulBakewell]

Great video thanks Mike. Talking of Christmas, the Christmas jumper my kids gave me last year kept picking up static electricity. I took it back and exchanged it for another one - free of charge. Merry Christmas to Mike & Kath and to all at MUB.

[@uglybob7505]

Ho Ho Ho

[@PaulBakewell]

@@uglybob7505 Merry Christmas Bob.

[@uglybob7505]

@@PaulBakewell And you too, Mr B :-)

[@mikesunboxing]

Lol! Who is a Christmas tree's favorite singer? Spruce Springsteen.

[@moey313.]

my pump fan 1 is at 3000rpm how do i make it lower

[@AdriDwitomo]

This video saved me a headache! One day my pc started shutting of by itself, first started when i was rendering a video on premiere..First thought was oh no another amd thing happening to my pc..then my assumption shifted to overheating. This helped my reconfigure my fans! And all is good thanks!!!

[@mikesunboxing]

nice one!

[@thomascross7231]

Hello Mike. Which method takes priority setting up the fans if you do it both on the bios and the MSI centre, or will it cause a conflict? Many thanks

[@mikesunboxing]

i would do the bios one first and then fine tune in windows

[@rickh8380]

Great review as always. I have that A320 board. Works great with my Athlon 220GE and 16GB of 2666 RAM. Love MSI products. Take care and wishing You and your family a warm and happy Christmas. Cheers

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks Rick and you too, have a good one

[@Sotigris]

Thank you for the great video. I did not know that MSI Center also had this capability.

[@mikesunboxing]

You are welcome!

[@tech_jims]

Nice video Mike need to keep it cool In them cases 🤣 wishing you and Kath and the community a very happy Xmas 😊

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks, you too!

[@jtraimundo]

Thanks for the video Mike, I was used to Dragon Center, have always been using MSI MB, but I missed the User Scenario option one. Thanks again!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@NicolasGG10]

Thank you, I'm from Brazil and with little English I could understand the content

[@mikesunboxing]

thank you

[@techwizard9699]

Amazing video mate,just upgraded to a MSI mobo and this was very helpful.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped

[@G1001.]

Thanks for this, built my pc last week. MSI mb, graphics & case. Was using the Frozr AI cooling, couldn't understand why (infrequently) the fans were often off until I opened the software, even though it apparently started with windows. Defo worth a sub, many thanks.

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks and glad it helped

[@nietrecordings4389]

Thank you very much. Your video saved my fans since it got crazy recently, didn't know what to do til I stumbled on this video.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help

[@2luu]

ty for all of your tutorials with the bios on the msi boards, I really appreciate you and learned so much.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad you like them!

[@xd-qo1nu]

literally the most helpful pc youtuber

[@mikesunboxing]

Thank you that is very kind of you to say

[@natestokley7863]

Thank you so much my fans on system 1 were so loud for a while and a went in and change it to pwm and it changed instantly

[@mikesunboxing]

awesome glad to hear it

[@lilpoolish]

Thank you! The PWM/DC issue is why my montech case fans were spinning like crazy

[@moey313.]

my pump fan 1 is at 3000rpm how do i make it lower

[@G0nz0uk]

This is just what I needed after building a PC for my son. His CPU keeps overheating so will use the above to fix. I'd love you to do a video on the MSI BIOS one day, I can't find out how I set my son's memory to PC3200Mhz, it seems to default to PC1066MHz even though it is definitely 3200.

[@mikesunboxing]

if you look on the first screen when entering the bios there is an xmp button, use that and you should be getting the XMP RAM speeds

[@RD-gm9wz]

Thanks for the video. When I was charging my laptop the fan would start getting loud and finally got it to stop lol

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help

[@RD-gm9wz]

@@mikesunboxing I've got a passion for computers etc and still love learning new things every day to improve my knowledge etc

[@theotheodorou1374]

This video FINALLY quiet down my pc after all those years. God damn thank you

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks theo

[@巫女コン]

Thank you, it worked like a charm my pin was a 3 one and I changed to DC and it's perfect.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped

[@Brother_Duck]

Man, thank you so much. There was a problem with my fan and you really helped me out! Thx man

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help!

[@yervandmkrtchyan3847]

Thanks Mike, just one quick question, I noticed when you put the fan speed to a low speed it said " System fan might behave abnormally" should we avoid that warning or it will cause problems in the future. Thanks again

[@mikesunboxing]

just make sure the fans don't stop altogether (unless that is something you are aiming for) but generally you can ignore the warning

[@yervandmkrtchyan3847]

@@mikesunboxing Alright mike, Thanks for replying. Have a nice day.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@yervandmkrtchyan3847 You too :-)

[@SuperNapolitanka]

Lucky you! Tried ordering them from Arctic directly couple of times in the past, and they were not in stock. Very good video as always.

[@mikesunboxing]

Sorry to hear that, stocks have been varied and limited in some regions it seems. hopefully things will get better soon

[@stkrrauch1]

i know this is a few years old but thanks this is so much better than dragon center

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks for watching

[@Senrab46]

Good review of MSi software Mike. About time i looked shain at my Rog Strix settings, once cleaned case first lol Merry Xmas to you and family🎄🎉👍

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks, you too!

[@Sofitt]

Thanks. I did'n know about pwm and dc difference. It helps to me

[@kingbarolex9995]

Hallo mike. When i play games. Is it better to use extreme performance or i use customize and change cpu fans in user scenario. I have rtx 3080, i7 11000kf and motherboard msi z590. What scenario do you recommend during gaming?

[@mikesunboxing]

i set up my fans to ramp up under load so user scenario is best for me and probably also for you

[@kingbarolex9995]

@@mikesunboxing ok bro. For Gaming I don’t use extreme performance in user scenario i just go for fan modification under customize setting. Correct?

[@mikesunboxing]

@@kingbarolex9995 yes setup your fan curves in user scenario, maybe aim for 40% at 40c and 60% at 60c and then 100% at 70c, that seems to work well for me and quiet when not under load

[@DrhexUK]

Will the AIO mount with the pipes to the bottom. Maybe a bit more optimum

[@mikesunboxing]

for me personally there isn't enough length in the tubes to allow that

[@ruebarb1]

Thank you, not the most intuitive software, much appreciated

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks for watching

[@chamsidinamraoui6845]

Ty so much this really helped ❤❤ got a new pc and my cpu temp use to go too high

[@slowestrider4918]

Thank you for a very precise and easy to follow instruction. Is this also applying to the MSI MPG Edge Z690 motherboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes, it is

[@uglybob7505]

Yeah, take control of those fans....show those fans who the boss is !!!! WHO'S THE DADDY !!! Merry Christmas to Mike, Kath, Angel, George, the hoard of cats and all of the MUB peeps. Lets get to 70k subs soon.

[@mikesunboxing]

Happy holidays! to bob and family and all the extended mub family

[@user-dh4lz6hc8f]

You did it Bob, you reached your goal to 1000+ comments on this channel. (I didn't forget) Happy holidays.

[@uglybob7505]

@@user-dh4lz6hc8f Awwww thanks man, I had no idea ! Have a great festive time mate :-)

[@mikesunboxing]

Nice going bob and hope you had a great time

[@Janchek1992]

This video covers everything you need to know to set up your fans correctly if you have never done even it shows what happens if you first build your PC and your fans are going crazy how to fix this problem (to change from DC mode to PWM). Thank you very much, you helped me to make my PC quiet. Great presentation of MSI Center also. Have a nice week!

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks and you to

[@busastars]

Hi Mike, I'd highly recommend Argus fan software. You can do a demo but it is a paid software, you do get a licence for two PC's so works out about £5 each. The thing you can do with Argus is control the fans from whatever heat source you want, so if you got fans directed to the GPU ie: below, or for gaming the GPU will be the hottest point to control. You can also do a duel heat source, ie: CPU and GPU so depending on which one is hottest that will control the curve. I haven't found any other software that can give control of fans from the GPU that is easy to use. Also compatible with all not locked to just one motherboard. Hope you have a look and don't mind the comment, would make a great video for you to do. Thanks you.

[@mikesunboxing]

i'll check it out

[@themariusnos]

Thank you very much for this video, it helped a lot!!

[@paulmiddleton7168]

Yea im the same, if either my CPU or GPU goes over 70'c, i tweak to stay under that temp. A cool rig, is a longer life span rig.

[@MKTEKGURU93]

Perfect Mike been wondering how this works :D

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks buddy

[@Ypelaar]

Great video! One question though. My MSI motherboard has an onboard chipset fan. How do I change the behavior of that little fan? The noise is annoyingly hight pitched.

[@mikesunboxing]

Might be able to control it in msi center

[@danieldegraaf]

Hi Mike, do you prefer MSI center above dragon center? I will also try the Argus. Always in for something new.

[@mikesunboxing]

I like msi center as it can be tailored to the user and has a low amount of bloat

[@danieldegraaf]

@@mikesunboxing Merry Christmas to you and your family also to Poppy the cat

[@mikesunboxing]

@@danieldegraaf meery xmas to you and your loved ones

[@Usumariu]

Again you helped me out a lot. Thank you

[@mikesunboxing]

Happy to help!

[@applez896]

Hey, can you tell me why in applcation only CPU Fan & Sys Fan4 have their RPMs when I have two fans for CPU cooler and four system fans (one at back and three at front). Are we able to control all of them separately? Is is something ot be done with connecting fans properly to motherboard? Great video, hlpem me a lot and looking forward answer :)

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@ProggerPA]

Hi, Mike. Thanks for this video, and the others you've done covering the MSI BIOS. After using Macs for the past 13 years, I'm doing my first PC build in many years for my new music production system. I've ordered an MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus, and will be using it in an NZXT H510 case; I'll also be using Arctic P12 PWM PST fans. I recently saw this about the H510 online, and it got me thinking: “One thing I will say about airflow in the 510, put the 2 fans as exhaust, no front intakes. This is contrary to most popular info, but it's not an ordinary situation: that case works far better thermally in a totally negative setup, especially for the GPU.” With that in mind, is it possible to completely disable fans in the MSI BIOS? Ideally, I would like to install the two intake fans at the front of the case and test it out, and then just disable them if they do indeed cause problems. Thanks!

[@mikesunboxing]

in msi center the fan control section will allow you to do that in real time

[@ProggerPA]

@@mikesunboxing Thank you. 🙂

[@mikesunboxing]

@@ProggerPA No problem :-)

[@avisingh9830]

Hey Mike, nice video. Just wondering what you said and did powering all fans into Sys Fan1 on motherboard. It looks msi has provided 6 x Sys Fan headers 12v each. I don't know how many fans you plugged in let's suppose them to be 4 and 4x12v =48v. So, how is that safe to plug 48v all together in 1 Sys Fan Header. Pls reply as I am at the end of assembling my pc, just fan work remains. Thanks

[@mikesunboxing]

never use more than 4 fans on a single header, if you want to connect a lot of fans used a powered hub. You should be adding Amps and watts rather than volts

[@FractaliaVodafone]

justo acabo de encontrar este video y la explicación es perfecta, muchas felicidades por crear buen contenido y gracias👌👍

[@waterboy4081]

Does the exhaust fan only spin when a certain temperature is reached? My fan is fine and connected correctly. Which Dot would the exhaust fan be?

[@mikesunboxing]

trace the wire from the fan to the motherboard and see what header it is connected to, that is a good starting point for diagnosis

[@Teslanews94]

Very very usefull man ! Thanks a lot !

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped!

[@stretchybwoy]

Nice one Mike, I was worried about where the green dot was as I just built my first pc for my brother for Xmas and on dragon Centre the green dot was where the te.p was was but msi center just has the dot on the far right and was worried I had a fault somewhere

[@mikesunboxing]

glad it helped

[@PetrFlosman]

This was very useful, thanks a lot! :-)

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad to hear that!

[@goodmorninghumans3647]

Really helpful video! Thanks very much! +

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@matteagle42]

Thanks

[@Stvbn]

Thank u man now my fans r finally quiet

[@mikesunboxing]

glad to hear it

[@CreatorOfWorlds]

Does msi center save settings to bios. Or will it need to be running all the time to manage the fans?

[@mikesunboxing]

it runs at software level

[@gavrosaurus]

Great video! Helped me a lot!

[@mikesunboxing]

You're welcome!

[@whotopu]

Great video, I have MSI morter max 450 version, tried to upgrade the HDD, it worked but I don't know why casing RGB and fan are not working. am not sure about the wired connection, I checked and it's fine. Are there may other issues that stop performing the value top model RGB and Fan?/ waiting for your kind response.

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/gaeeDPw

[@barsam2a]

Great video, thank you!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad you liked it!

[@MrJeumf]

Coucou , que penses tu du PC portable MSI THIN GF63 12VE-016FR 15,6" FHD 144HZ INTEL CORE I5 12450H RAM 16 GO DDR5 512 GO SSD GEFORCE RTX 4050 TGP 45 W ?

[@mikesunboxing]

no idea what that means sorry

[@fahdmirza8665]

Hi Mike. A small confusion here, what does the CPU 1 fan mean at bios? Is it the stock cooler (like intel stock cpu cooler) or the casing fan?

[@mikesunboxing]

cpu fan headers are often split into two headers, for connecting coolers such as the arctic freezer 34 esports duo, which has two fans so you can plug each fan into it's own socket or header

[@faristurki]

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped

[@tridens6708]

I can recommend Argus software very good my case fans were at Max now prity quiet 650rpm

[@bradleyhow6999]

Hi Mike! Do you know how to off Fans and Rgb Lights during sleeping mode? I've some troubles not being able to turn them off

[@mikesunboxing]

fans and lights should turn off if you disable sleep mode or erp we did a video on it

[@cchhiipp]

Does MSI Center need to be running all the time to control the fans like this, or can I keep it closed after I apply the fan settings?

[@mikesunboxing]

it runs as a service so you can close the app and it runs in the background

[@MariNate1016]

So I’ve got a question. I did both the center and bios as you did but what’s the point in using the bios if you’re just gonna redo it in center?

[@mikesunboxing]

the bios setup gives you a baseline setup, then you can tweak it further in the MSI Center

[@MariNate1016]

@@mikesunboxing got you, thanks. My fans are def super quiet now at idle but I have a question about their sound at max settings in high on life on gamepass. They go from about 400rpm to 900-1000. CPU core temp is about 62 degrees and the socket temp is in the 50s. 5800x3d and 7900xtx Red Devil. Is it normal for them to be quite loud under that strain? It’s a phanteks p500a case. This is my first pc so I’m not sure lol.

[@mikeKidLazy]

Too bad that they don't offer the fan speed changing feature embedded directly into MSI Center for us mortals who don't have an internet connection on our PCs.

[@tdub77]

So what do you recommend for water cooling people? The carbon ek x doesn't have a temp sensor header???

[@mikesunboxing]

you use the CPU temp as a guide to temps and tailor the fans accordingly

[@tdub77]

@@mikesunboxing I want to adjust fans based on the liquid temps. The carbon ek x board should have a temp header but alas no. Another question for you regarding this board. The manual stats it can support 2 3.2 type one connections to the case and 4 usb 2. Ther are only 1 and 2 headers for these respectively. Do I need a splitter cable or some out board controller to manage this? Building in a lian li xl case

[@Randel1979]

Hi, great video but I’m stumped. When I click on Customize I have no fan control options. Any ideas or pointers please

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@penumbra3]

Hi Mike, i know it's an old video but i got a problem about my fans which connected to msi ddr4 z690 a wifi mobo. I can reach the adjusts that you mentioned and see their fan speed everywhere but couldn't change or arrange their speed altough i tried everything that u mentioned (pwm/Dc etc..). No matter what i do they re always stable about 1000 rpm. do you have a suggestion ? thx a lot..

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@surfpipeline]

amazing video

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks for the visit :-)

[@patricklebel1141]

Merry Christmas everyone, have "fan"!

[@mikesunboxing]

Lol! Why are Christmas trees so bad at sewing? They’re always dropping their needles

[@realrobprice]

Hey man my CPU cooler has 4 pins but 3 wires, is it PWM or DC?

[@mikesunboxing]

dc

[@Zireael83]

under user scenario -> customize -> profile settings I only see 2 Options for my graphics card and not a single Board setting. does anybody know why? thanks!

[@mikesunboxing]

what motherboard is it

[@kdrd0]

Can i just put the same settings you have ?

[@mikesunboxing]

you can if you have the same setup

[@5gadget5]

Wish I'd of found this video a couple of days a go, would of saved a lot of head scratching with my first pc build. Quick question, when I change the Dram settings in XMP profile 1 to the right mhz (3600) When I save and exit and it re-boots it flashes up that the pc has been changed to gaming mode then goes to the home screen to log in, the fans are now running a t a faster speed than what I had set them (not got to MSI centre yet) IF I go back into the bios to see if I can change the settings the bios is locked in the the mouse pointer doesn't work nor the keys? The only way I can change anything is to power down and press the Cmos button and start again. Specs; Ryzen 5 5600x MSI MPG X570S EDGE MAX WIFI ATX Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME SSD MSI VENTUS 2X OCV1 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB Video Card Lian Li GALAHAD AIO 240 RGB 69.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Lian Li Lancool II Mesh C RGB ATX Mid Tower Case NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Lian Li ST120 69.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack

[@mikesunboxing]

not sure what is going on there but gaming mode can be toggled on and off on the bios home screen in the top left next to the XMP part. try toggling that to off before you save and exit the bios

[@Dave004]

What is the point of configuring it in the bios if you're going to end up controlling it in the software? Is it basically incase the software goes down the bios settings take over?

[@mikesunboxing]

it gives the software the correct settings for PWM or DC control before the software loads, you can do either but both seems to work better in my experience

[@jamesmiscellaneous]

Soooo. I googled MSI Center fan control to make sure MSI center includes manual override of UEFI fan curve settings if needed. Behold my main man Mike's video came up. So I was helping someone troubleshoot an issue as we were installing some old IPX to TCPIP emulation software, the venerable "kali95". This software still has many uses including monitoring of various game servers in real time, and file transfer. Of course it also does what it was built for very well... run IPX only games over the internet. The installer FAILED to run for him. I had this issue on my MSI rig but I did a work around. I did a work around for him as well and got everything squared away. But me being me, I NEEDED to find out what prevented the installer from completing it's run. An installer should show up as an "app" in Task Manager, and this installer was stuck as "32-bit Setup Launcher (32 bit)" as a Background process. On my other 2 machines, the installer ran fine. It was time to interrogate my MSI B450 system for the cause. My first suspicion was something unique to this systems Windows environment and that was verified after running Win10Pro in safe mode (F8... "bcdedit /set {current} bootmenupolicy legacy" FTW!) and the installer ran fine. Back to Windows 10 normal boot and time to start hunting for the culprit. Looked at my extremely short startup list and killed potential causes like Logitech Gaming Software and Afterburner. What must have been my 3rd try was CC_Engine_x64.exe. Stopped this process and the installer that was sitting in Background processes sprung to life as an APP and the installer wizard was presented. CC_Engine_x64 resides in the Dragon Center directory. Figures MSI has failed again with this wretched software. I've been waiting for months for OpenRGB to work right with MSI on board ARGB controllers (it works kinda OK, but effects all show wrong) so I can dump this garbage, but I still use it for the effect on my fans that I haven't been able to simulate with OpenRGB because of its issues. So, yes, I may finally give MSI center a try. I run the NON-UWP version of Dragon Center and the ability to remove garbage like CFOSSPEED is not available in my version. I found other means to mitigate that extra garbage. I'm going to see how things work disallowing CC_Engine_x64.exe to run at startup for science. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not needed unless you actually need to run Dragon Center and use the UI. One more MSI hate message for the road: During this deep dive, while milling through Task Scheduler where I like to weed out hidden crap like Adobe update checks and other trash. I noticed MSI has a scheduled task called "MSISW_Host". This triggers "muachost" that MSI sticks into your C:\Windows\SysWOW64 directory. Research suggests this file comes with MSI Afterburner (I didn't verify, but likely it does). I stopped this process and wouldn't you know it Afterburner seems to still run without issue. GPU/CPU temps remained in my systray and Afterburners UI continued to display my GPU and other system data real time without issue. Googled this executable a little to try to find out what it does. Multiple results suggest it can record keystrokes and mouse input. Well that's just GREAT! If true of course... So that's my rant. I'm going to backup my PC, then try the latest pipeline builds of OpenRGB and then MSI Center and see where I'm at. Asus and MSI make some great hardware, but good lord they are the worst software developers around. don't tell me Afterburner's so good I'm pretty sure Guru3D made that with MSI's blessing. Yeah I coulda made a KZbin video about all of this but I'm an inarticulate moron. Instead, just rant to my buddy Mike who fights the good fight. Transparent open source software is often times the best thing out there for us. Wish I was well off to donate to the cause. Rant complete. F-U-MSI. 😎

[@mikesunboxing]

lol thanks for the info james, i get more issues with the msi sdk installer myself

[@jamesmiscellaneous]

@@mikesunboxing Testing the latest pipeline build for OpenRGB right now. They ALMOST got it! The Effects Plugin doesn't work right, but the integrated effects that come with the stock version of OpenRGB do work now! The only problem is I cannot isolate an effect like marquee to just the fans. Either everything is static, or it has to follow the effect if anything on the mainboards controller gets that effect. Marquee looks fine on the fans, but annoying on my other LEDs. First world problems baby! 😆

[@SalvaXVII]

How are your fans at 300RPM, mine were at 6K with my PC at like 50 degrees on PWM. I have Vetroo V240 CPU Cooler and switched to DC it dropped only to 3.8K…????

[@mikesunboxing]

Something is very wrong there with the pwm reading

[@Captain_Kebap]

Is MSI Center not for this kind of stuff? Do I need to do all that via BIOS?

[@mikesunboxing]

either place is fine, any bios settings will be overridden when the msi center loads

[@Nozaki.]

Hey Mike. Question: Would I still be able to control each separate fan if they're connected to a 1 to 2 PWM splitter? As the motherboard I'm planning to get is an MSI z690i Unify, and it only has 3 headers for fans, but I plan on using 6, so I decided to just use 3 1 to 2 splitters to accommodate all 6 fans.

[@mikesunboxing]

no splitters and hubs just replicate the signal to all the fans and it shows as a single fan in the bios or fan software

[@Nozaki.]

@Mike's unboxing, reviews and how to Oh alright, thanks a lot for clearing that up for me. Have a good one, m8!

[@slappymcgillicuddy7532]

so a bit confused, I set my fan speeds in BIOS and have Dragoncenter which I like to set my RGB's on my motherboard and AIO fans. So if I get MSI Center do I need to match the fan settings with the ones I just set in BIOS? You mentioned how BIOS usually overrides the other settings on MSI Center.

[@mikesunboxing]

msi center is a replacement for dragon center but works in a similar way. If you setup the fans in the bIOS first, then fine tune them in windows after that works well. soon as the pc turns on it will use the bios settings, after you login to windows and the msi center starts the fans we revert to the msi center settings and speeds

[@Porotox7]

@@mikesunboxing so msi center isn't necessary at all?

[@paulodomingos8265]

Mike, maybe u could help me. I bought a B550 Tomahawk and a CPU Cooler Fan from Redragon, model is Effect, it's say that has ARGB lights but the connection is 4Pin PWM. Is there some way to control the light effects through the mobo?

[@mikesunboxing]

it should have another cable if it is truly addressable rgb

[@paulodomingos8265]

@@mikesunboxing cames with only that 4 pin cable. So i think isnt addressable. I just want to turn it on again T_T

[@HOPGamingZone]

will 'Mystic Light' be able to control aRGB Case Fans that aren't MSI brand as long as it is connected to the MSI motherboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that sounds about right

[@martindierks4726]

Hello Mike, thanks for this tutorial. I cannot find a way to adjust the step-up-time in MSI Center. This feature is only offered in the bios? In the bios there are only three options and I hoped the MSI Center being more flexible, but there seems to be no step-up-time-feature at all. Do you know more about it? Cheers.

[@mikesunboxing]

do you mean for the fan speed ramp up and down?

[@martindierks4726]

@@mikesunboxing In the Bios it is called "step up time" and "step down time" (in my bios on the left). You can choose 0.2, 0.3 and 0.7s. Btw, in my MSI Center (newest version) there is no "CPU Fan". I have no option to adjust fans! MSI support is informed and I wait for the answer. Maybe it's due to my PC model (Creator P100A 11-TD), where MSI doesn't want it or I have the wrong MSI Center.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@martindierks4726 This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@Zireael83]

@@martindierks4726 Hi Martin, were you able to fix this? I also only have 2 graphic card options in the system settings in MSI center, not a single board-related option like fan-speeds. Thanks!

[@herculex9838]

Do I need to make sure that anything is set a specific way in the BIOS when using MSI Center?

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@BeachClub_1]

Can you configure the curve for the case fans (not CPU) depending on the case temperature or GPU temperature on the mainboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes in the bios you can choose the monitoring area cpu, gpu, vrm etc

[@BeachClub_1]

Thank you for the swift response. I will try to define a curve on gpu temperature for one intake fan, for the other intake fan depending on case temperature and for outtake fan depending on case temperature. If that is configurable I should get a very quiet PC depending on the tasks and power drawn from CPU and GPU 👌

[@mikesunboxing]

@@BeachClub_1 Feel free to join our Discord chat if you want any help discord.gg/gaeeDPw

[@surfpipeline]

I have tried this twice now, and I absolutely love the results. Yet, when I restart my computer - the fans start revving up again to 1300-1800 even at 20c temp. The settings I've set for these fans are saved, but they're spinning fast until I do the "Fan tune" again. Do you have to click "fan tune" every time you restart your PC? :/

[@mikesunboxing]

they will do the settings stored in the bios until windows loads and then msi center will take over.

[@damienholland8103]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="135">02:15</a> How do you check whether you have a 3-pin or 4-pin without having to open the case?

[@mikesunboxing]

look up the fans on the internet, or see if the readings make sense, if they are setup wrong the readings will be zero or 100% full speed

[@kingbarolex9995]

Why I don’t have the fan option on my profile setting on my msi user scenario?

[@mikesunboxing]

should be there, is the toggle switched on?

[@kingbarolex9995]

@@mikesunboxing yes it is

[@mikesunboxing]

@@kingbarolex9995 This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/gaeeDPw

[@fernandovillegas3830]

Hi, again, i'm trying to tie the system fans to the cpu temp, as i can do it in my gygabite motherboard, bud here in MSI, is not working thougether, I want that when my cpu fans are full speed, the system fans do the same, i don't care about the noise. Can be done in MSI as in gygabite?

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@H0ffnungsv0ll]

If you make a change in bios, doea it also save it in tbe bios? Dont want do have center open the whole time

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes it does

[@H0ffnungsv0ll]

@@mikesunboxing i meant chanhe in center and save in bios sorry

[@Machoukas]

I just finished an AM5 build and I cannot get the fan control to work in the bios. I have an EK Basic 240 AIO with the included fans daisy chained with the included adapter. No matter what I try in the bios the fans just blast away at full throttle. Is it possible MSI bios doesn't allow PWM fan control if 2 fans are daisy chained to the CPU fan header? I'm going to try 3rd party fan control software next.

[@mikesunboxing]

have you daisy channel them to the pump header? the pump is likely 3 pin and the rest 4 pin so you can't mix fan types on the same line

[@JusWin646_]

Hello sir! Quick question, I have all my fans connected to a lian li hub that connects to the pump fan instead of the system fan. Is this correct? I did so based on video instructions provided from manufactures website (both msi aio cooler and Lian li fans). Any help is appreciated! Thank you sir!

[@mikesunboxing]

i would connect them to a chassis fan header i think but depends on what fans you are using

[@Oracleman1]

You know anything about MSI Center, Mystic Light, etc. on Win11? Doesn't seem to work kfor anyone...

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah i use it on almost all my pcs

[@charlesnix8314]

I have the corsair 5000D with 4 corsair SP120 RGB Elite fans with the Lightning Node Core. Now the RGB works just fine. And I have the fans connected to the built in fan hub that came with the case. 1-4 and have the cable with power 4 pin connected to the board fan connector and the sata cable connected to the sata from the PSU. The fans come on but I can't see the speeds posted in the bios and I can't change the speeds either. Where did I mess up at?? please help.

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@hdhani87]

Is there something similar for GPUs to change their fan curve? I.e. for an 3080 FE

[@mikesunboxing]

yes the nvidia experience software allows fan tuning or use msi afterburner

[@hdhani87]

@@mikesunboxing thanks! I tried afterburner but my 3080 fan wasn't turning off after I applied the settings, normally it would turn off if the temps are below a certain value. Set the curve on the graph to 0% too... Will try the nvidia software